1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best of the Week for What's Right 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, after two games away from the NBA Finals, 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: the New York Knicks have fired TIBs. We talked on Tuesday. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: You seem to think that his job was pretty secure. 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: Myself as well. I couldn't see them fire and TIBs. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 3: But here we. 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: Are, they fired him. Where did they go from here? 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: What's the assessment? 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 4: Okay, so. 12 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: I react, this happened ten minutes before the TV show started, right, 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: And I actually said on the air, sometimes the reacting 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: to breaking news are my favorite shows when I look 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: back on them, and sometimes they're the most annoying shows 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: because I'm like, gosh, darn it, I just didn't have 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: that piece of information, you know what I mean, And 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: so everything that we said ends up becoming irrelevant a 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: few hours later. I think the TIBs show might end 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: up falling into the former category my favorite shows, and 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: here's why. So my snap reaction to the TIBs firing 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: was there's really only three ways to view it, Like 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: there's only three I guess rationales to the firing rationale 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: one was. 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: They So let me back up. 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: The reason I'm framing it like this is because everyone 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: is framing it the way you did, Demonse, which is 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: it was the best season in twenty five years. You 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: made your first conference finals in twenty five years, you 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: were two games away from the NBA Finals, you were 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: favored to go to the finals, and you fired your coach. 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: So logically speaking, that would mean one of two things 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: is true. Either A, at the end of the regular 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: season they had determined were move moving on from Tom Thibodeau. 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Anything short of a championship or making the finals, we're 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: firing that. That's where they were, kind of like the 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: Nuggets were with Michael Malone. But the Nuggets just did 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: it beforehand and they weren't going to let this playoff 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: run dissuade them. 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: That's kind of option A. Option be. 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: If that's not the case, if at the end of 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: the regular season his job was safe, then that would 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: mean option B, which is somehow this playoff run hurt 44 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: TIBs in the front office er ownership's eyes, right, if 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: he would save at the end of the regular season 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: that they looked at it and they were like, you 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: know what, Demons was right that victory over the Celtics 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: was a fluke. 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: Shouldn't have happened down fifteen in every game. 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: We're actually not that good, you know what I mean, 51 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: Like we were trailing Detroit a Bune, we got lucky 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: against Boston and so like those are, in theory, the 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: only two viable paths. And this is why I'm kind 54 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I feel like Tuesday's TV show is going to age. Well, 55 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: I said that, and then I said, there is, however, 56 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: a third path, a third rationale I should say, which 57 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: is they are firing Tom Thibodeau because there is a 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: player they are trying to acquire that they think they 59 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: will be more likely to acquire if they fire Tom Thibodeaux. 60 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: And the what I was implying without really saying, is 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: was it possible that someone from Giannis's camp said, hey, 62 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, if person X was your coach, maybe not 63 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: only you know, would it pushed Gyan is closer to 64 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: asking for a trade, but maybe he would ask for 65 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: trade to the Knick specifically. So I just kind of 66 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: threw that out there as a possibility. I don't think 67 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: you would have to fire a Tibbs in order to 68 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: give yourself a better chance to get Kevin Durant. Yannis 69 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: is the other big name out there. So I just 70 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: threw that out there on Tuesday. And then, Demons, did 71 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: you see the kind of weird report about one of 72 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: the coaches the Knicks might want to go after? 73 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: Because I did. 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: It was a coach who currently has a job, and 75 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: it was Jason Kidd. And if people remember, Jason Kidd 76 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: coached Yannis in Milwaukee, and when Jason Kidd was fired Yannis, 77 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: the reporting was he called Jason Kidd and said, is 78 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: can I fix it? Should I call ownership and say, 79 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: unfire you? I'm paraphrasing again, I'm not, I am. I'm 80 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: literally I could not be further away from reporting anything here. 81 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: I have been gambling NonStop for the last thirty six hours. 82 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: I've not been working the phones. I've been playing poker. 83 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm simply saying the firing TIBs. It was odd enough 84 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: that a little alarm bells went off. And then when 85 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: I cause the reporting, demanse was there were two coaches 86 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: who currently have jobs the Knicks were interested in. 87 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: It was Jason Kidd and emy Udoka. 88 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, well, Emay Udoka is not going 89 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: to be available like and so it felt to me 90 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: and again maybe maybe I'm wrong, like Udoka was included 91 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: in that, like, hey, yeah, there's a lot of. 92 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: You know, established coaches that you know we might like. 93 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: It's really that one name. 94 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: It was really about exactly. 95 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: And then this morning on the walk over from Aria 96 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: where I'm staying to Horseshoe where the World Series of 97 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Poker is, I was listening to Brian windhorse Show. 98 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: The Hoop Collective. 99 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: And anybody, by the way, who tweeting me or asking 100 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: me or whatever about Lebron once again going at Wendy, 101 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: I would please. What I would like to say about 102 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: that is it makes me very sad and I wish 103 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: you wouldn't do it, and I you know, I appreciate 104 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: you respecting my privacy at this time, I do not 105 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: like it. But bright I was listening to Brian Windhorst 106 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: on his great podcast with Tim bond Temps and Tim McMahon, 107 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: Tim McMahon who covers all the Texas teams free ESPN, 108 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: and the Jason Kidd thing came up and Tim McMahon 109 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: did not who just wrote a book on Luca who's 110 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: very close to the MAVs When the Jason Kidd thing 111 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: came up, Tim McMahon did not say, Oh, no chance, 112 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: there's no way the MAVs are letting him leave. There's 113 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: no that didn't happen. 114 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: So Jason Kidd might want to leave Dallas. 115 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: I don't think that's a situation. 116 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I know they have Cooper flag coming, but 117 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: it's still kind of a toxic situation. 118 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: And here's the other thing. 119 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Even if like it wasn't a toxic situation, so much 120 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: easier to win in the East right now, right now, 121 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to add one other piece of this because 122 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: obviously Jim Dolan was involved to some level. I don't 123 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: know how much of a level, but to some level. Okay, 124 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna build a long bridge to 125 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: get to this point. Somebody I didn't interview a couple 126 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and that silly like face of the 127 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: network thing came up again when the guy asked me 128 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: about FS one and me and I answered what I've 129 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: always answered, which is, for the last almost decade, Colin 130 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: Cowhard has been an hat for every single day the 131 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: face of FS one, and he will be until he 132 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: stops broadcasting for US and people think like, that's just 133 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: you know me, you know, kind of paying tribute to 134 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: a guy who's my professional idol and friend, and you 135 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: know all that, and some of that's true whatever, but 136 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: it's also it's not like an emeritus title. He's also 137 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: as like the kids on Twitter would say, still throwing 138 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: ninety eight on the black whenever he wants. Because Coward 139 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: had the best Jim Dolan take ever and he just 140 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: said it as an aside a few years ago, and 141 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: it's so perfect that I'm here in Vegas. 142 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: When we're talking about this, which. 143 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: Is Coward said, do you know why the Knicks all 144 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: of a sudden got good, good management, good coaching, They 145 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: were a functional adult franchise And he said it was 146 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: because Jim Dolan was building the Sphere in Las Vegas 147 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: and and was distracted. 148 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, that's exactly right. 149 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: Like Jim Dolan's favorite toy forever, ever since he inherited 150 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: cable vision and MSG from his dad, has been the Knicks. 151 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: But then his company was building the Sphere in Vegas 152 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: and that was his new toy, and so he had 153 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: to leave the Knicks alone. And like, all right, Leon 154 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: rose in world Wide West. You guys handle it like 155 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 156 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 5: It's the greatest take it, and it's why Colin's the 157 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: greatest to ever do it, because nobody, nobody else's brain 158 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 5: works that way. But the moment he said it, I'm like, God, 159 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 5: damn it, you're off percent right. 160 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense. It's exactly what happened. It's exactly 161 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: what happened. But here's here's my contribution to that take. 162 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: Guess what, Demanse. The sphere is built and it's up 163 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: and running and it's self sustaining, and the Knicks just 164 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: had this magical playoff run and so guess what this 165 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: is like a toy story, Buzz Aldrin Woody situation, that 166 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: toy that you threw in the back of the closet 167 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: because the other one was taking up your attention. 168 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: It's like a way, what did I say? What did 169 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: I say? Something like that? 170 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: Oh? Bus, so he's the third man to walk on 171 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: the moon or second man to walk on the moon? 172 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: Im sorry, Buzz Buzz Lightyear and Woody No. But then 173 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the Knick, the Knicks, the spheares 174 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: up and running. The Knicks are fun. Now, Shalo mas 175 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: there they're making runs. Jim Dolan's like, I'm back, baby, 176 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: Let's make some Let's make No, I'm not saying they're 177 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: gonna suck. What I'm saying is all of a sudden, 178 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: they're making drastic moves again. 179 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: Right, He's like, what if we fire the coach? What 180 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 4: if we try to poach Jason Kidd? What if we 181 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: do this? 182 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: So it's just I and with all that said, I 183 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: don't necessarily think this is the wrong move. Here's though, 184 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: I do have the I want to bounce this off 185 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: you pal okay, because people were disappointed with the Knicks, Like, 186 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: I'll give the fair criticisms of Tibbs in a second, 187 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: but here's one of the things, like that the Knicks 188 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: were bad defensively in these playoffs, large portions of it. 189 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Here is what I would be worried about and the 190 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: risk they would run they are running. Is it because 191 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: Tibbs calling card his whole career has been great defense? 192 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: Right? Right? 193 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: Is it possible. 194 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: That the defense the Knicks had this year, while maybe 195 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: disappointing to some, was actually the best defense you can 196 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: realistically have. If Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns are 197 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: your two best players. 198 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 199 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: Like, were they actually, because of Tibbs better defensively than 200 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: they should have been? But because of those two guys 201 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: defensive limitations, was it still not good enough? 202 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 4: Pardon me? 203 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: Like that's that would be the that would be the 204 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: concern that I think is potentially a real concern, right right? 205 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: That makes sense. He was just working with what he had. 206 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I you see, I have no choice but 207 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: to play Cat and Brunson. What are you gonna do? 208 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: Right? 209 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: So's now, here's what I think is a fair criticism 210 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: of Tibbs and also a reminder for everybody. And this 211 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: applies mostly to basketball coaches, but you can find a 212 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: way to make it apply to any walk of life. 213 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: It's always risky to make it clear to your boss 214 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: that you don't think your boss has done a great job. 215 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: And here's what I mean Tibbs's stance of and he 216 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: bent on it a bit at the very end in. 217 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: The playoffs, but was probably too late. 218 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: Stance of I have to play these five guys forty 219 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: plus minutes because I don't have enough other good players 220 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: is always risky when the person who picked the players 221 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: can fire you like it wasn't intentional, but whenever a. 222 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: Coach this this happened. 223 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: This is why Calvin Booth was mad at Michael Malone 224 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: and then the owner there was like, you're both fired, 225 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: but it was Michael Malone was like, no, Russ has 226 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: to play forty plus minutes because the young players stink, 227 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: and the Calvin Booth was like, I picked those young players. 228 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: I think they're quite good. And so if you're like, 229 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: if you're Leon Rose, and Tibbs is like, sorry, McHale 230 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: Bridges has to play forty five minutes a game because 231 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: I can't play Landry Shammitt or Delon right. Leon Rose 232 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: is like, I don't know. I thought those guys were 233 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: good enough to bring in here. That's always a bit 234 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: of a bit of a risk. Now, I also think 235 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: they did not get enough out of Michale Bridges this year, 236 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: and you can put some of that on Tibbs. And 237 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: I also do think this there is and we talked 238 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: about this. We don't have to spend too much more 239 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: time on it. There is a real benefit or real 240 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: risk to not experimenting with lineups in the regular season 241 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: is you don't get the real time reps and be like, oh, shit. 242 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: Delon Wright plus Duce McBride, cat Og and McHale bridges 243 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: that lineup can cook, like the different lineup combinations or whatever. 244 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City now they won sixty eight games, but they 245 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: are the standard. Oklahoma City played every lineup combination imaginable 246 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: through the regular season and now they go into the 247 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: playoffs with real date on all of it. So I 248 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: know we have TIBs follow ups, but so let's get 249 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: to them. But there's my big picture TIBs take. And 250 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: I apologize to Adam Silver, who just did a great 251 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: interview on breakfast Ball and Thunder and Pacers fans because 252 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: they're like day one of the finals and you're talking 253 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: about a fired coach. In my defense that we did 254 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: a lot of finals preview stuff on Tuesday because the final, 255 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: like that is a weird thing about the NBA playoffs. 256 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: It's just every night eyes bleeding from watching so much basketball, 257 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: and then there's like a week where we're just chilling 258 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: and and so. 259 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: But uh, but all right, what are the tips follow 260 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: ups going? 261 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: Honest, look, he always shaking up the NBA man. 262 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: Well, again, this is just a this is just a 263 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: theory by me. 264 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: I'm not reporting it's. 265 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 4: It's not even close to one hundred. It's just an idea. 266 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: It's just an idea. But go ahead. 267 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: So we'll do a game of likely maybe what if 268 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: to see who will be the next head coach at 269 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: New York. So it's like, it's likely that Blank will 270 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: get the job, but maybe Blank gets the job, and 271 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: what if this person gets the job? 272 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: So likely? 273 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so the I mean Brew kept, Brew kept saying, 274 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get this right. 275 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: Uh what who? 276 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Gosh darn it, it wasn't I'm gonna Johnny Bryant. Bru 277 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: kept saying Johnny Bryant, and Brew Brew is one of them. Now, 278 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: Bruce said he didn't make any calls, he didn't know 279 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: anything on it. 280 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 4: It was just his speculation. 281 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: But then right after the show, Johnny Bryant was the 282 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Vegas favorite for it. 283 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: Now it's also true. 284 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: This is one of the rare times where like first 285 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: things first might have kind of helped set the line 286 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: in Vegas because this thing broke it two fifty. Brew 287 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: is on the air at three oh two talking Johnny Bryant, 288 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: and then the sports books like what do they you know? 289 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: I think they're probably you know what are people saying 290 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: whatever it was, and so I don't know if that 291 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: was kind of the tail wagging the dog. The odd 292 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: thing to me about Johnny Bryant, And I said this 293 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: to Brew was right now, he's the Cavs associate head coach. 294 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: He was an assistant under Tibbs. So do they fired 295 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: TIBs bring in Johnny? I don't know, but Brew so 296 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: I think likely it's Johnny Briant. And the other piece 297 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: of this is the Knicks fired TIBs the day Johnny 298 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Briant was named a finalist for the Son's job. 299 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 4: He then didn't get the Sun's job. 300 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it's Jason Kidd. And then the what if is 301 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: this demanse because this is the other piece of it. 302 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: I haven't talked about what if it's Rick Brunson because 303 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: if it's not, that's an awkward piece of this, which 304 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: is when they're interviewing head coaches, so they say, by 305 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: the way, one other thing, you can pick your whole 306 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: staff except for one spot Rick Brunson's got Like are 307 00:18:53,359 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: they firing Rick Brunson? That would seem tricky, like you 308 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: know what, like honestly like what he doesn't mean? No, 309 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: not I don't think. 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So now 359 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: they're headed at Cancun? What do you think New York 360 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: should do? What should they make any moves people want 361 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: to come at cat. 362 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: If they just run it back, I think that's totally reasonable. 363 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: Run it back and be like, hey, runs it a man. 364 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: While everyone's been focused on Luca's it might be that 365 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: of the all the players on the twenty twenty two 366 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks, you were the biggest defensive liability, like moving forward, Like, hey, 367 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: I know that in Brunson's awesome. He's awesome. It's a 368 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: great player, legitimate superstar. But Game four for him was 369 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: really rough on that side of the ball, and it 370 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: was the biggest game of their season, So like, can 371 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: you get a little bit better there? Kat? Can you 372 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: watch the film from your game three fourth quarter again 373 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: and again and again, and try to activate that more. 374 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: If you know, McHale's just got to be a little 375 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: better throughout the year. Josh Hart just just be passable 376 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: from three, Mitchell Robinson nothing but free throws all summer 377 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: like those you do those things with the Celtic Sorry, 378 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: kind of off the chessboard. The East is wide open. 379 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: That would be reasonable. I now, as far as transactions, obviously, 380 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: if you can get Yannis, you'd get Yannis. I do 381 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: not think they have the best package to offer, so 382 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: I think that would be tough. Now, maybe if he 383 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: demands only New York, May Milwaukee will accommodate. 384 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 4: I don't know. 385 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Durant thing, Demanse, because I do 386 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: think if you traded Cat for Durant, if you offered that, 387 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: the Suns would say yes. Now, Durant is six years older, 388 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: and that shortens your window considerably. However, the argument for 389 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: it would be twofold one is it is a back 390 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: door out of what is going to be a really 391 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: tricky Cat contract situation, because Cat's got three years left 392 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: at fifty three, fifty seven sixty one. I don't know 393 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: if you love that is he extension eligible? Let me look, no, 394 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: hold on, sorry, I want to check that, because that's 395 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: the other thing. If it's like, hey, and I also, yeah, 396 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: he is extension eligible. So it's like you owe him 397 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: sixty one and three years, and he might be like, 398 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: and I'd like two more years on the back end 399 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: at sixty three and sixty five. Like that's that might 400 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: be untenable. But the other reason you would do it 401 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: is if you think Mitchell Robinson can play thirty minutes 402 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: a game, and you think Durant would just add another 403 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: layer to your offense, and and here's the critical piece, 404 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: you think next year has massive additional value compared to 405 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: other future years because of the Celtic situation, I might 406 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: do it. You would still you would get better defensively. 407 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: Better. 408 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: I don't even know if you can say he'd be 409 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: better shooting because Cats such a great three point shooter 410 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: but better midrange. Yeah, I mean, like the I don't 411 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: actually think Durant's a better three point shooter than Cat, 412 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: like by the numbers and by the volume, but better 413 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: three level. I I normally would let me check Kat's 414 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: exact birth yea. 415 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: And I was about to say, like rank Katie's defense 416 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: with Cats. I mean, I know Katie isn't known for 417 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: his defense, but the way I see Cat moved around 418 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: sometimes Katie can get up and down. 419 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: The court fasten than that, Katie's a much better Yeah. 420 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: I was about to say, like. 421 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: I said, six years older, it's actually seven years older. 422 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: That's the Karl Anthony Towns turns thirty at the beginning 423 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: of next season. Katie turns thirty seven at the beginning 424 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: of next season. So that typically is not a move 425 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: you want to make. But I guess here's how I 426 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: would look at it if they made that trade Demonse. 427 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: I think for next year, I'd say the Knicks are 428 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: the favorites in the East, and now I think kd 429 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: might end up in Minnesota. I think there's real smoke there, 430 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: but the East is so open, and I do think 431 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: for a playoff run, even though we haven't seen duran 432 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: on a long playoff run in a very long time, 433 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: I think Durant makes you a little bit better. Like, 434 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: do you think that's crazy? 435 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: No, I think that that makes a lot of sense. 436 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: I think Durant should probably go to the go to 437 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: New York as opposed to the East too. Just to 438 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: get the best postal chance, go the east supposed to 439 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: the west, just to get another chip. 440 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 3: But I mean still end up having to face those 441 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: guys either way. 442 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I like the move. I think they should 443 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: do it. It's a no brainer to me. 444 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it's got to at least be kicked around. 445 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: That's the way. That's the way I look at it. 446 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: All right, Reminder, everyone like, rate, subscribe, review, do all that. 447 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: Let's let's jump down to some listener questions and then 448 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 1: I can talk a little World Series of poker if 449 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: we have time. Uh, but let's do again. If you're 450 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, we greatly appreciate it. If you're listening 451 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: on the pod, oh, we greatly appreciate it. But either way, 452 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: please subscribe to the channel, Please subscribe to the pod. 453 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 4: All of that. 454 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: It really does help us out quite a bit. All right, 455 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: go ahead to mans. 456 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: Bobby says, the twenty four Celtics against the twenty twenty 457 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: five Thunder in a seven game series, who would win? 458 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: I think it's tough. I think that's very close. If 459 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: you are getting seven healthy games out of Porzingis, I 460 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: would go boss. 461 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 462 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: If Porzingis is the way he was forget this postseason, 463 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: even last postseason where you know he was injured. Then 464 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: I that to me would tilt it to the thunder. 465 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: Does that seem fair? 466 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, that's so unfortunate. 467 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well yeah, I I to me that that 468 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: that's what I That's where I land on it, all right? 469 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: Next, Ryan, are the Pacers title hopes riding on game 470 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: on a game one win? 471 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 472 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, I. 473 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: Mean you could well. Let me put it like this. 474 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: Again. 475 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: You guys know how thin I think the Pacers are 476 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: drawing in this. They have to win one of the 477 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: first two. You can't go down two oh, even though 478 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: ah the series wouldn't have started a home team had lost. Done. 479 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: You gotta win one of the first two. 480 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: Next. 481 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: Oh, And Michael says, going into the twenty twenty four 482 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: NFL season, I think there was I think there was 483 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: a consistent consensus understanding that the AFC was better than 484 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: the NFC. You think that that still holds? No? 485 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: What I think is the quarterbacks in the AFC are 486 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: way better than the quarterbacks in the NFC. But because 487 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: of that, because the NFC quarterbacks are not as highly 488 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: paid you are, you've been able to develop more well 489 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: rounded teams and you know the team right New last 490 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: year that was you know it gets to call themselves 491 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFC. And the Lions were 492 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: excellent too. Now the Lions I'm a little worried about 493 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: and the Frank ragnow retirements not nothing, but no, I 494 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: think it's far closer than it was. Let's keep going. 495 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: Owen says love from Canada. Do you think SGA passes 496 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: Steve Nash is the greatest Canadian player ever with a 497 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 2: title win? 498 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 4: Yes? I think he does. 499 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: I think one MVP and one title and I think 500 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: this year from SGA was better than any individual Steve 501 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: Nash year. Yeah, I think he does pass him as 502 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: the best Canadian player ever. 503 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: Next, Luis says, hey, Nick, since the NBA season is ending, 504 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: is there any plan to cover summer sports WNBA, cycling, 505 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: Twit de France, F one, tennis until September and the 506 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: NFL comes back. 507 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: So we'll definitely cover some WNBA toile definitely cover tennis, 508 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: you know that. And I have a confession. You know 509 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: what I did this Sunday? I watched IndyCar in the 510 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: Detroit Grand Prix because ever since I went to the 511 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: Indy five hundred. I kind of gotten into open wheel 512 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: racing a bit, and so I am now considering going 513 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: back and watching that F one series on Netflix that 514 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: I was so skeptical of and us as ringing back 515 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: the F one minute and doing all that. So maybe 516 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: I'll get into F one because I thought the op 517 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: I thought the IndyCar stuff was really really cool. But 518 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: we'll also have NBA free agency, the NBA Draft. We'll 519 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: have a bunch of cool stuff, all right, Last. 520 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: One producers, but really gave thoughts on the new mission Impossible. 521 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: I have a shameful confession. I haven't seen it yet. Now. 522 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: Part of that is I've been incredibly busy, and part 523 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: of that is I haven't been ready to say goodbye 524 00:31:54,680 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: to the greatest talking franchise ever. And so no spoilers please. 525 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 3: Signed an Impossibles. 526 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: It's such a bad job by your, bad job by you. 527 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: Okay, No, it's the greatest movie series ever. 528 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: It's just so good. 529 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: For Oklahoma City. Who do you think has the most 530 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: to gain the most to lose in this series? 531 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: Most of the games unequivocally, without a doubt, Shay, I 532 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: mean Shae, Shae can argue I won't necessarily agree with it, 533 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: but Shae and his fans certainly could argue he holds 534 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: the belt if they win that it not only because 535 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: he's would be the league MVP. The finals MVP, there 536 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: were a sixty eight win team scoring champ. 537 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: But also. 538 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: I played the guy who has the belt and Joker 539 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: and my team won and I played, they could argue 540 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: played better than him. I don't actually think I agree 541 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: that in that series Shay was better than Joker. I 542 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: know Joker at a couple kind of uncharacteristic games. I 543 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: still think Joker was the most impactful. 544 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: Guy in that series. 545 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: But it certainly would be a fair take to say 546 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: if they win, to say Shay's the best player. It's again, 547 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: it's not the take I would have, but you'd have 548 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: to at least respect it. It also would be brew 549 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: and I were talking about this off the air, and 550 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: I know Simmons has talked a lot about this. It 551 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: also would be an all time Guard season, So like, 552 00:33:52,280 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: if you remove Michael and Magic, what Guard would have 553 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: had a better season than the one Shay is having 554 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: right now. I think if they win the title, I 555 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: think folks reflexively, I know I reflexively was like, well, 556 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: all right, Michael had a bunch, Magic had at least 557 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: a couple, and then, of course stept Here's the problem. 558 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Steph's best season by far. They lost the champ They 559 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: lost the finals, So the Steph's years get kind of 560 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: fuzzy in our memory. But Steph's best year and one 561 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: of the greatest years any player has ever had, when 562 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: he scored thirty a game on I mean fifty forty 563 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: five and d splits they lost to Lebron. His other 564 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: MVP year, demonse, I'm gonna put you on the spot here, 565 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: give me a guess how many points and assists Steph 566 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: averaged his first MVP season. 567 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: Thirty one and nine, twenty four and eight. 568 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus no that, But that's not U because he did. 569 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: He averaged thirty two later, and he averaged thirty the 570 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: next year. That so that's the point that I that 571 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: I was making. That year, the team was unbelievable, and 572 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: obviously he was great, but that's not like an all 573 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: time individual season. The next year was the all time 574 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: individual season, and then. 575 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: The year he had a year. 576 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: When he won the scoring title when they weren't that 577 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: good in twenty twenty one and they missed the playoffs 578 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: like that, you know, so there's his best year. They 579 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: didn't win the title. And then people are gonna say, well, Kobe, 580 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: did Kobe have a better year than this Shay year? 581 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, Kobe, and this is another one. 582 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: People are gonna say, this isn't true, but it is. 583 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: Kobe averaged thirty a game three times in his career, 584 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: and amazingly, none of the three did they win the championship, 585 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: and in fact, two of the three they didn't win 586 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: a round of the playoffs. So he averaged thirty a 587 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: game the year they were going for the three peat 588 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: and that year they lost in Did they lose in 589 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: round two? Yeah, they lost in Round two to San Antonio. 590 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Not the year they're going for the three peat. 591 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: They already had the three peat obviously, the year they're 592 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: going for the four pat and then his two insane 593 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: scoring years thirty five a game and thirty two a game. 594 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: They lost in Round one both years, both years that 595 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: Laker team lost in Round one, one year blowing a 596 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: three to one leading round one. So those years are 597 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: off the board. The next year, the year they got poal, 598 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: he won MVP. He averaged twenty eight six and five, 599 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: and the Lakers that year won fifty seven games. It's 600 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: hard to argue that year was better than this year 601 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: by Shay d Waite obviously never won an MVP. Isaiah Thomas, 602 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: as great as he was, never won an MVP. Steve 603 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: Nash won a couple, never made a finals. 604 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 4: So there is. 605 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: And I don't want to do West and Koozie right now, 606 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: but even West, let me check because Jerry, poor Jerry West. 607 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry West was one and nine in the 608 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: finals and the one year he won the championship, he 609 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: was not even close to his best individual season. Still 610 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: pretty great, by the way, Again, I don't do people 611 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: want me to do a Jerry West thing. Okay, I'll 612 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: do it real quick. Jerry West again one and nine 613 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: in the finals. And if that's not enough, here's Jerry 614 00:38:52,000 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: West's MVP finishes fifth, fifth, fifth, third, second, didn't didn't quality, 615 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: didn't get won for three years in a row, second, second, second. 616 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: He finished second MVP voting three straight years while losing 617 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: the finals like every year. 618 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: That's pretty crazy. Voter voter fatigue must not existed at 619 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 3: that time. 620 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: No, Wilton Russell won, all of them. 621 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 3: Kept trading off. 622 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: So I feel like once those guys are in second 623 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 2: for a long time or get those second and third spots, 624 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: it comes a year and they're like, all right, we're 625 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: just gonna give it to him. 626 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 627 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, and listen, now, Jerry West did win finals 628 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: MVP the first year they ever gave it out when 629 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: they didn't win, when his team lost the finals, but 630 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: no during Wes Demons, during West Prime, here's the here's 631 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,479 Speaker 1: the m vps, Will Russell, Russell, Russell, Oscar Russell, Will 632 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: Will Will and then Unseld Reid Kareem Kareem. It was 633 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: a big man's award. Oscar won it, but it was 634 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: a big man's award again. So Jerry West, like, maybe 635 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: point is this, if they win the championship, you can 636 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: make the argument that only Magic and Michael as Guards 637 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: ever had a better single season than Shay had this year. 638 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: It's pretty remarkable. Uh And for okay, see, I don't 639 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: really I don't really think there's too many guys that 640 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: have a ton to lose, except let me all add 641 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: this this. 642 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 2: What'd you say, Jaylen Williams, Don't you think it's probably 643 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: it's really important for him to perform in these finals, right, 644 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: I think out of all the guys outside of Shade. 645 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you think do you think any show 646 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: like anybody's gonna kill Jalen Williams if he doesn't like 647 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: I just don't. He's in that Goldilock zone that we've 648 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: talked about of good enough to where he's gonna make 649 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: a ton of money, but not so good to where 650 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: he gets super scrutinized. Maybe though I think he's like 651 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: the X factor, super important. I just don't think he's 652 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: got you know, people are gonna kill him. I'll add 653 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: one other person as far as who this person has 654 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: the most anxiety right now, that's my that's the way 655 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: to put it for Okay, see, and that's Sam Presty. 656 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: So Sam Presty took over the Thunder when they were 657 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: still in Seattle, Okay, and he draft like he took 658 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: over right after the draft, right before he took over, 659 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: right or like the week they drafted Durant. I don't 660 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: the I don't know. Yeah, no, he he drafted Durant. 661 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: Now that was a no brainer. Once Odin went one, 662 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: Like whoever whoever didn't go one was gonna go too 663 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: in the odin Durant rapid set that aside, Westbrook was 664 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: not a no brainer. Pick Harden was not a no brainer. 665 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: Pick a Baka was not a no brainer pick. He 666 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: just crushed, absolutely crushed after coming from the Spurs, and 667 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: they are just set up that it's gonna be the 668 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, the thunder out West for a generation, and 669 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: they made the finals in twenty twelve and have not 670 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: been back since and hardened they He then trades Harden 671 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: probably not probably definitely his worst UH transaction as an executive. 672 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: My guy Daryl got over on him and just been building, building, building, 673 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: getting trying to get back to this moment. 674 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 4: He knows as well as anyone that. 675 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: There these moments can be fleeting and you've got to 676 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: take advantage. By the way, if you want to know 677 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: more about Sam Presty, I don't even know if you 678 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: know this, Demanse, but you know who wrote a book 679 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: that Sam Presty is a central character of. 680 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 3: Who? 681 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 2: Danny parkins, Oh, that's what's that pipeline to the pro 682 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 2: Pipeline to the pros. 683 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, pipeline to the throat to the pros about you know, 684 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: Division three, pipeline to nba gm uh. That's a great book. 685 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: People can get it on Amazon or wherever you get 686 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: your books. Free plug for Danny's Book