WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Even More For Parsons? 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.400 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:13.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:18.599 player's loud broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:23.840 the start. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:35.920 Newi scrugs. Here we are the viewers online. That for 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.280 the viewers, just I'm just chilling to the arm. Just 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.560 it's like it's just like that. You remember Hall of 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.120 Nights when when they went to go get quick and 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:48.479 then he say stop shooting that. If you need the 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.159 bathrooms over there, over there, if you need to know, 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.599 I'm just saying it's over that way. It's over that way, 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:58.320 if y'all need to know. Hey, this is a this 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.080 is a triple next sale too. Yeah, Smoothie King, did 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:06.080 you ride me? Appreciate your smoothy appreciate you. He's wearing 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.360 as the Sun's shirt. It is the final final day 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:11.760 of Black History Month, so we could bring you the 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.039 play you by Hotels Doctor. Yes, he is um the 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:21.039 jacked up mister mister, the noticed younger version of Ronnie Coleman. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.000 Over here. Somebody give us some jack black got a 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:36.040 little black. It's all good because these bad boys man 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.440 shot con and paid you too much to make I'm sorry, 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.720 excuse for that shot bad I had. I put the 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.560 I put the palmers. This morning, I will thy baking 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.680 be hot like the Coo butter be heading me short. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:53.240 Do you you just sweating? This dude I've ever met 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.280 in my life. I don't think even more yea, even 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.000 you remember when he's on the back of the bus. Yeah, 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.880 I thought you was that and everybody thought I was down. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.200 I'm like, du I'm just sweating, y'all. Hop on the bus, 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:03.880 Hop on the bus. Were on the way to the game. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.880 Rookie rookie. Ye, yeah, this dude, he sweating so bad 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:09.839 that tears. Knewman came up there and was like, Church, 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:11.799 you are right. I think it was the first game, 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.240 the first game, the first year, first game, rookie year. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.079 We traveled nothing. We're going to Washington to play Sunday 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.520 night game. Sunday night game, so you know, first game, undrafted. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.839 I'm just glad I made the team. On the way there, 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:25.960 I don't know what it was. Something came over me. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:29.080 It's just I started drinking. It was I was like 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.880 something going on with it. He knew it through me 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.800 a hoodie man. Wipe yourself off. Man, I don't know 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.760 what it was. And nothing beat Leon let at the 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:42.440 super Bowl. We'll happening with Leon Rich just the questions everything, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:48.440 poor Leon, you just you just oh it's I've been 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.280 I mean it was, it was, it was, I mean 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.120 literally you felt bad for like, Okay, this dude is 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.200 nervous with the questions. Just not you're not ready for it. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.359 But uh, big Cat he made through. Big Cat made 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.120 it through. Up by the way, Jenny mccraig Church the Scruts. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.120 This is the players Longe one full hour football content. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.960 They are former Dallas Cowboys players, both undrafted safeties who 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.160 made the team. Um, none of us hit reached the 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.360 levels of Barry where he got the very large bag 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.600 from shot here we go right about that. I can't believe. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.440 I can't believe we do it? Okay, did we lie? 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.600 So so happy for you man. By the way, speaking 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:33.239 of Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Green Bay, New Orleans Saints, those are 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.280 your games over in Britain, the UK games. Could we 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.400 see the Cowboys going over back one more time to 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.280 h jolly old England to play on the pitch against 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.120 Jacksonville Tony rum On. Those guys did a couple of 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.080 years ago, so they can't wait for Church to come back. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:57.040 They go whatever clubs he going to do. I'll do 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:01.280 a slight recap, gonna bring it up a little. You know, 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.240 we went out there. We went out there, and we 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.560 had ourselves a hell of a time, all right. I 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.720 mean I'm talking about they started playing the national anthem 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.400 where we was at, you know, so it was a 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:10.640 good time. I just put it like that. It was 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.680 a hell of attack so much ya when y'all ordered it, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:19.159 they start, stakes were made. But once you get once 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.920 you get to that point, it's like it's just like 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:28.560 it's one of them situation you everybody gets make it 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.839 that make it a Guinness round. Now everybody get a fight. 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.159 But no, it was just one of those situations. But 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.920 as far as we're talking about playing over there, I 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.120 hate it as far as playing because because now they 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:40.720 cut it down to where you just go over there 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.760 from like a Thursday to Sunday. The time difference, I mean, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.240 you're practicing. It's just it's just too much on a player, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.359 at least what I thought. But I think the Cowboys 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.200 did it right when they did it back in twenty fourteen, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:56.039 when we went out on a Monday, spent the entire 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.400 week there. Nobody got in trouble. You know, it's a 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.360 veteran team, so nobody got in trouble. But you had 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.400 to hold a whole week to ackling, make yourself to 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.120 the time and getting used to practicing on that grass 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:06.760 and all the other stuff. So if they do it 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.679 that way, I'm all for it. But that short weekend, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.320 it's just not it, man, just not it, all right, 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.120 So be on the lookout for that Cowboys against Jacksonville 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.279 this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see that game 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.960 moved there at all. Michael Parsons was on The Rich 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.280 Eyes and Show last week, and I thought he has 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.039 some pretty interesting things. One of the things he says 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.480 is I need to line up with the best. I 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.920 want to be best on best. Then he talked about Hey, 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.080 I wanted to be on Deebo Saniel. He says, Minnesota, Hey, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.560 I'm out there covering Dalvin Cook. And then against someone 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.119 like Mahomes, he says, put me against their left tackle, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.080 their rights or their right tackle. I'll pass rush. Your 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.080 thoughts on what Michael Parsons wants to be and how 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.680 he wants to be used. I'll tell you this, Okay. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.040 I love the way Michael Parsons plays, I love his ability, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.200 I love his talent, but that is not the way 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.120 to be successful. Okay, yeah, that is not the way 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.920 to be successful. All right. What you do when you're 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.599 specifically pass rushing is you find the weak link and 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.200 then you go and get that one on one against 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.240 that player. You don't say, man, I want to go 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.240 out there against Trent Williams every rep. That's not the 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.640 way to be successful. If you want to get them 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.960 stats in those sacks. To be a difference maker, you 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.640 find the weak link of guy that you can take 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.520 advantage of, and you go out there and you embarrass him, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.440 and you get your sacks, you get your forced fumbles, 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.560 and you make that type of stuff happen. All right, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.000 if you're able to right the defensive coordinators when they 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.080 see guys like Deebo Samuel and they see guys like 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.280 Dalvin Cook, smart defensive coordinators do not put their players 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.440 in one on ones against those guys. They find a 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.600 way to make sure that you're in an advantageous position 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.960 when you get a Dalvin Cook coming out of the 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.320 flatter running those type of routs. Right, no matter how 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.800 talented talented you are, you want to make the game easy. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.040 You want it to you want it to happen slowly, 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.560 not being those personal situations every snap. All right, So 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.000 I love them. I love his competitive nature, but that 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.520 ain't the way that we should use Michael Parsons. That's 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.680 not the way that that's gonna help our defense be 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.200 the best defensive it could be. You know, I think 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:06.800 you hand up a right on that d Mac. You 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.040 gotta work smarter, not harder. And look, I love Michael 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:11.760 Parsons and what he brings to the table. I mean 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.000 his energy, his ferocity, just his passion for the game. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.440 Like I said before, it reminds me a lot of 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.640 Dez Brian how he goes out there and handles his business. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.720 And I'm sure he could be successful if he went 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.720 out there and win against these guys each every snap. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.600 He would win a couple of those battles, because you know, 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.640 he's that good of a player. But if you want 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.920 to make an impact each and every game and be 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.840 that guy and be that dominant guy, you gotta line 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.720 up with these matchups. I mean, like you said, Mac, 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.400 you don't want to go against a Trent Williams each 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.200 and every snap. You don't want to go against one 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:38.920 of these hor of fame tackles each and every snap. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.120 You want to get your easy pickings too. He looked 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.440 at d Ware when we had him earlier in our 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.680 in the career. That's all they did was put him, 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.960 whether it's the weakest tackle on that side, if there's 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.920 a week guard or a week center, they put him inside, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.000 blitzing him in there. They didn't always just line him 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:53.560 up the one side to where teams can just sit 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.400 there and say, all right, we're gonna focus our line 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.440 on that side, and he might open up some things 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:58.880 for other people on the other side. But this guy 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.240 won't be successful. He won't make that impact of the game. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.720 So with me with Parsons, I love his tenacity. I 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.400 love how he does this game and how he goes 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.360 out there and has that passion for it. But if 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.800 you want to be that dominating guy, sometimes you have 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.120 to take you know, these weaker link guys and make 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.840 them look foolish out there and get your start to 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.680 You're not a cornerback, okay type of dude saying that 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:19.920 type of stuff and they go out there and they 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.480 get the cover best on best. That is an entirely 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.000 different situation then you being able to run through a 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.600 Dalvin Cook or run through a Trent Williams and have 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.160 to worry about what they're gonna do. Right, all of 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:32.880 a sudden, you rushing Dodvin Cook and he running the 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:34.679 screen and you got them man to man. All of 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.640 a sudden you're like, oh, man, well now you gotta worry. Right, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.320 He's this thing for you to do is go find 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.720 that that weak link and beat those dudes on the 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.200 screen and make a sack force fumble. So smart enough, harder, 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.160 But I believe DQ is in the right position. With 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.080 him in the right position, we saw them, We saw 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.800 that throughout the entire year, that he took advantage of 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.920 those matchups thirteen sacks, three forced fumbles, eighty four tackles 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.280 for the unanimous NFL Rookie of the Year. Who wants 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.000 more and wants to be the best. And to me, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.359 that's the biggest thing I took out of the conversation 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:11.360 was he's not done. Also, he spoke about the playoff loss. Richard, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.320 I see that's the great question. What happened m He 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.040 talked about they thing said, they felt the pressure, and 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.640 he said, I want to go into make an excuses. 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.880 But also the first thing he brought up with your 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.080 thank brought up the penalties. Brought up the penalties, and 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:27.760 he said, too many on third down, which you know, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:29.800 you know, you guys played the game. The third down. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.120 Third down is where you where the game has made 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:36.280 one of the loss on third and five and you 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.640 stop them and you're thinking, I'll punt you and it's ready, 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.640 let's go, let's go plus safe, and then you see 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.240 that yellow flag out there. It's it's the more allowing, 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.560 especially if you're like on that fringe zone at fifty 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.600 yard line and you stop on third down, then they 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.319 get a whole new set of downs to get back 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.320 and feel the man. It's it's depressing, man. It takes 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.840 a lot out of you, especially because if it's self inflicting, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:59.680 like outside down you come on, bro, and you in 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.400 the hu you hold like, look, they're gonna try to 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.040 draw us off. Just hold your waters. And there's always 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.800 that one guy that wants always I had to get 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:16.959 a jump on it. No, you didn't, mans, again, Kelly, 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.480 he was, he was. That was the classic Miranilly thing, 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.360 like not get him out of here, he would do 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:29.720 his little kid. So, how does Mike McCarthy go about 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.640 fixing that? I mean, this is this is this was 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:37.360 a tragic issue of last year's football team was the penalties, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.920 and he talked about correcting it in the offseason. He 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.960 said during the year that it wasn't uncommon for his 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:48.199 teams to have high penalty rates because they're changing the program. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.880 So from whatever was Jason Garrett to him and he's 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:56.120 so he that was his kind of rationalization. Off sizes 0:10:56.160 --> 0:11:01.360 offside ain't all sizes outside Okay, it's it's we always 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.000 talked about this. On defense, there are some penalties. They're 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.680 just effort penalties and they just happen. Right. Sometimes you 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.360 might get a hand to the face. Sometimes you might 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.719 get a face mask if you might be reaching out, 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.240 and sometimes you know, if your hand might those are 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.520 something that you can like, all right, listen, we get it, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.000 all right. You go on as hard as you can. 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.040 And that type of stuff happened. Maybe one of those 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.600 those hitters on the quarterback where everybody's like, man, that's 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.440 super requestible, like what else is he supposed to do? 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.079 But when you got thirty five and you jumping off 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.559 side and that's something that's consistently happened happening, those are 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.120 things to where your team has to be disciplined enough. One, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.880 your players need to be focused enough when they get 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.400 out there not to make those things, make those mistakes. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.800 But then coaching, you have to make sure you work 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.320 on those situations while you're out there on the field. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.320 Hardcount has to be something that has done every snap, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.400 every practice until you find out that your team knows 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.640 that that is coming and you do not jump outside. Right. Yeah, 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.760 It's all about attenion to detail. I mean, especially if 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.920 you're a defensive lineman. You're looking at the football. You know, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.120 it's not like okay, I'm I'm this. You're looking at 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.120 the football to see when it snapps. So you gotta 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.160 have that attention to detail, situational awareness to realize, all right, 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.280 if I jump off side in this situation, how's it 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.200 gonna affect my team or how's it gonna you know, 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.880 get does it have that team being able to extend 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:14.880 the drive? I mean, those are little things you got 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.719 to think about, especially on the defensive line. And the 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.720 penalty like that where you can control all of it, 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.760 like Danny said, you can't control sometimes with a face 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.800 mask or defensive pass interference, it's a judgment call. But 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.439 if you can sit there and look at the ball 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.520 and you're still jumping off side, that's a problem. You 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.959 gotta have attention to detail. Randy Gregor is holding like that, 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.680 Like those are things where you say, man, guys, that's 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.599 a lack of focus in that moment. A frustration. So 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.120 it's frustration like those are things that you can work on. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.679 You talk to those specific players or you put them 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.880 in those positions and you say, this is how like, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.640 see what just happened at this point, right, all of 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.720 a sudden, and sometimes it didn't even happen. We used 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.600 to be so mad at coaches. Right, JJ would come 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.600 out there and then it'll be an incomplete pass on 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.319 third and whatever, and the defense think we want and 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.440 he'd be like, oh no, we gotta pass interference right, 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.920 just to show you the impact that that would have 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.040 if you do commit one of those penalties in those situations, 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.000 and you know, most of the time he worked out right, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.880 You see how angry somebody is, right, and then you 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.720 get one of the leaders come in and say, hey man, 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.800 we got to tighten up right, And then it also 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.160 helps you say this is now it's time for us 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.640 to refocus. Okay, may have been a BS call, but 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.880 now it's time for us to refocus and get back 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.000 on track. But that was My next question was just 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.480 and you guys, performer players, what's said in the room 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.680 when you see these alarm I mean we're talking about 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.960 him ten leven, twelve. I mean, these penalties were crazy 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:29.680 to be cowboys were getting them. I think it depends 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.680 on who's getting these peneties. Now, if it's like a 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.160 guy like a you know, a situational guy that comes 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.600 in every now and then and and he's costing the 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.880 team penalties like that, and then of course he's gonna 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.600 get jumped on pretty bad. Um. But if it's like 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.000 a d law or like you know, Randy Gregory or 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.800 somebody like that, that's that's causing these penalties, they should get, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.760 you know, get on or get attacked just like this 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.040 other guy did. But I'm telling you it doesn't happen 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.839 that way. Okay, now, and I'm not trying to pick 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.680 on them, but let's he had some moments where where 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.600 teams are going out Anthony Brown in a game look 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.040 like Thanksgiving, where they're going out a guy like that 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.520 and you know, boom, they're just happening like that. Is 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.160 there anything set amongst players or or during the games 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.199 that put on coaches and then after the game? Is 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.920 anything set? No? I think in a situation where you 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.760 have a guy like Anthony Brown at the start of 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.040 the season, even us we're like, oh, man, like we're 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.160 not sure what's going on. But then you got guys 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.800 who throughout the season show you that they have the 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.720 ability to cover guys without making those mistakes. Cornerbacks specifically 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.680 have a harder time than anyone, right because the position 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.960 that you play and the way that the game has changed, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.920 those type of situations are going to happen. Right. You'd 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.080 be like, I didn't even do anything to this dude, 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:42.960 and it's a passing efference. If you go back and 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.040 look at some of the stuff that he was called for, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.720 some of it is questionable, right, And the players and 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.000 the coaches see that. So sometimes you see a coach 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.400 coming to the locker room and say, man, we get it, 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.440 Like we understand, but you just gotta find a way, right, 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.200 you gotta find a way, and you can tell the 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.360 tone of the coach when he knows like they ain't 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:58.640 really none we could do about it. And then some 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.720 situations you gotta go back out there when you're doing 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.760 when you're watching them do one on ones, you got 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.320 that's when you see it. Hey, make sure you focus 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.280 on not grabbing the jersey. All right, we want to 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.240 see you make it consist of a concerted effort not 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.160 to grab the jersey because this is what they continue 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.200 to call you for. Yeah, I think it's definitely got 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.640 to be you know, on the coaches to help correct 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.200 that guy and get them in the right direction. We 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.440 talked about Anthony Brown. I definitely think it's you know, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.360 Joe Whitten. Those guys got to come together and say, 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.360 all right, this is what they're calling you for. You 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:25.840 may want to, you know, slack off on this a 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.080 little bit or make an adjustment here with that. But 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.360 I don't think it's a lot of players coming and saying, hey, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:31.840 you got to do this. That the third because if 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:33.880 you're a corner, you know what's a D line gonna 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.760 come over to you and say, hey, you better get 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:37.560 your feet right. You better stop holding you or a 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.000 line back, Hey, you better get underneath that. You can't like, no, 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.400 you gotta you know it's it's I think it has 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:43.960 to come down to the coaches, and I think that's 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.160 where the players respond better with the coaches talking to 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.080 them rather than another player coming and say you better 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.280 get right. So McCarthy likes to use working point of emphasis, 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.240 so this will be a point of emphasis for the 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.640 Cowboys going to the offseason. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones clearly 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.800 was upset after season about the penalty and he basically said, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.640 we saw this happen week one. Why why why did 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.040 this happen all year long? And I think that's a 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.720 legitimate point made by the owner. There's some people out 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:12.320 there the like don't don't like it, you don't want 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:13.920 the owners say thing. But to me, the owner is 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.360 saying really what the fans are saying, and people in the 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.040 the meeting a saying like, why is it this being 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.560 corrected here? Because it is costing you games and we 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.280 saw it in a playoff game cost you and and 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.240 to be fair, some stuff you just can't correct because 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.320 some of it is just the caliber of the player 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.360 that you have, Like when we were watching our left 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.080 guard the left side of the line, and you say, man, 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.560 these these type of things are happening. Sometimes you just 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:39.840 get ran through and you gotti grab to protect your quarterback. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.320 So sometimes it's the discipline of the players based off 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.240 how the coaches are coaching them, and sometimes it's just 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.920 hey man, some players just aren't good enough not to 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.240 put themselves in that situation. So do you think it's 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:51.760 y'all think I'm an ash all this? Do you'll think 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.280 it's more of an accountability issue like that? Out of 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.040 one issue where we're talking about Randy Gregor, I think 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:57.520 it was a playoff game, like a third and five, 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:59.960 and he just randomly just went out there and tire 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.280 on the offensive linemen, like he tackled a guy out 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.159 of frustration. Maybe because he wasn't making a lot of 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.160 plays out there, I'm not sure, But do you think 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.199 that's more of an accountability issue, like man, you know 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.520 damn with these coaches say I'm gonna do me? Or 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:11.879 do you think it's just, hey man, he just had 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:13.240 a brain far I think I think it was a 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.320 brain for I think it was one of those those 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.480 those lack lack of judgment in that situation which we've 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.960 all had. Right when you see guys something, a lot 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:22.560 of times you don't get called for, but you might 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.080 go push a guy in the bag, or you might 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:25.679 tell mess a little bit too much and you might 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.639 not get called for. But when you get back to 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.359 the huddle and you and you and your teammates are 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.040 telling you, hey, bro, you gotta calm down with that, 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.200 right then, you know you had one of those lack 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.480 of judgment moments. And I think that was what Randy 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.119 Gregory had in that moment. I don't think that's anything 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.600 you can coach. You can't be out there and be like, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.680 hey bro, no, hey, we're gonna run this player, don't 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.240 grabble right like. You just gotta tell you brother, come 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.840 on you better than that that old line you would 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.879 hear coaches say either you're coaching or you're letting that happen. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.000 But he's they're telling them. One he knows that he 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.600 messed up to somebody's going to tell him. But that's 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.160 not something that you take out there and you put 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.680 in the script and say all right, hey, come on bro, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.919 because one, you know, that's not being coached. So they 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.000 don't even know where they came from right. They just 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.720 know that he was out there and he just he 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:13.080 just made a mistake, a bad decision. Yeah, so there's 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.320 no fear of hey, man just cost us a third 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:18.840 down that we gotta run out there again. We just 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.000 know it's a fear. But I mean, I don't stop. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.040