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Speaker 1: the start. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and
Speaker 1: Newi scrugs. Here we are the viewers online. That for
Speaker 1: the viewers, just I'm just chilling to the arm. Just
Speaker 1: it's like it's just like that. You remember Hall of
Speaker 1: Nights when when they went to go get quick and
Speaker 1: then he say stop shooting that. If you need the
Speaker 1: bathrooms over there, over there, if you need to know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's over that way. It's over that way,
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Speaker 1: little black. It's all good because these bad boys man
Speaker 1: shot con and paid you too much to make I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: excuse for that shot bad I had. I put the
Speaker 1: I put the palmers. This morning, I will thy baking
Speaker 1: be hot like the Coo butter be heading me short.
Speaker 1: Do you you just sweating? This dude I've ever met
Speaker 1: in my life. I don't think even more yea, even
Speaker 1: you remember when he's on the back of the bus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you was that and everybody thought I was down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, du I'm just sweating, y'all. Hop on the bus,
Speaker 1: Hop on the bus. Were on the way to the game.
Speaker 1: Rookie rookie. Ye, yeah, this dude, he sweating so bad
Speaker 1: that tears. Knewman came up there and was like, Church,
Speaker 1: you are right. I think it was the first game,
Speaker 1: the first game, the first year, first game, rookie year.
Speaker 1: We traveled nothing. We're going to Washington to play Sunday
Speaker 1: night game. Sunday night game, so you know, first game, undrafted.
Speaker 1: I'm just glad I made the team. On the way there,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. Something came over me.
Speaker 1: It's just I started drinking. It was I was like
Speaker 1: something going on with it. He knew it through me
Speaker 1: a hoodie man. Wipe yourself off. Man, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it was. And nothing beat Leon let at the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. We'll happening with Leon Rich just the questions everything,
Speaker 1: poor Leon, you just you just oh it's I've been
Speaker 1: I mean it was, it was, it was, I mean
Speaker 1: literally you felt bad for like, Okay, this dude is
Speaker 1: nervous with the questions. Just not you're not ready for it.
Speaker 1: But uh, big Cat he made through. Big Cat made
Speaker 1: it through. Up by the way, Jenny mccraig Church the Scruts.
Speaker 1: This is the players Longe one full hour football content.
Speaker 1: They are former Dallas Cowboys players, both undrafted safeties who
Speaker 1: made the team. Um, none of us hit reached the
Speaker 1: levels of Barry where he got the very large bag
Speaker 1: from shot here we go right about that. I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we do it? Okay, did we lie?
Speaker 1: So so happy for you man. By the way, speaking
Speaker 1: of Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Green Bay, New Orleans Saints, those are
Speaker 1: your games over in Britain, the UK games. Could we
Speaker 1: see the Cowboys going over back one more time to
Speaker 1: h jolly old England to play on the pitch against
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Tony rum On. Those guys did a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, so they can't wait for Church to come back.
Speaker 1: They go whatever clubs he going to do. I'll do
Speaker 1: a slight recap, gonna bring it up a little. You know,
Speaker 1: we went out there. We went out there, and we
Speaker 1: had ourselves a hell of a time, all right. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm talking about they started playing the national anthem
Speaker 1: where we was at, you know, so it was a
Speaker 1: good time. I just put it like that. It was
Speaker 1: a hell of attack so much ya when y'all ordered it,
Speaker 1: they start, stakes were made. But once you get once
Speaker 1: you get to that point, it's like it's just like
Speaker 1: it's one of them situation you everybody gets make it
Speaker 1: that make it a Guinness round. Now everybody get a fight.
Speaker 1: But no, it was just one of those situations. But
Speaker 1: as far as we're talking about playing over there, I
Speaker 1: hate it as far as playing because because now they
Speaker 1: cut it down to where you just go over there
Speaker 1: from like a Thursday to Sunday. The time difference, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're practicing. It's just it's just too much on a player,
Speaker 1: at least what I thought. But I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: did it right when they did it back in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: when we went out on a Monday, spent the entire
Speaker 1: week there. Nobody got in trouble. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: veteran team, so nobody got in trouble. But you had
Speaker 1: to hold a whole week to ackling, make yourself to
Speaker 1: the time and getting used to practicing on that grass
Speaker 1: and all the other stuff. So if they do it
Speaker 1: that way, I'm all for it. But that short weekend,
Speaker 1: it's just not it, man, just not it, all right,
Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for that Cowboys against Jacksonville
Speaker 1: this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see that game
Speaker 1: moved there at all. Michael Parsons was on The Rich
Speaker 1: Eyes and Show last week, and I thought he has
Speaker 1: some pretty interesting things. One of the things he says
Speaker 1: is I need to line up with the best. I
Speaker 1: want to be best on best. Then he talked about Hey,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be on Deebo Saniel. He says, Minnesota, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm out there covering Dalvin Cook. And then against someone
Speaker 1: like Mahomes, he says, put me against their left tackle,
Speaker 1: their rights or their right tackle. I'll pass rush. Your
Speaker 1: thoughts on what Michael Parsons wants to be and how
Speaker 1: he wants to be used. I'll tell you this, Okay.
Speaker 1: I love the way Michael Parsons plays, I love his ability,
Speaker 1: I love his talent, but that is not the way
Speaker 1: to be successful. Okay, yeah, that is not the way
Speaker 1: to be successful. All right. What you do when you're
Speaker 1: specifically pass rushing is you find the weak link and
Speaker 1: then you go and get that one on one against
Speaker 1: that player. You don't say, man, I want to go
Speaker 1: out there against Trent Williams every rep. That's not the
Speaker 1: way to be successful. If you want to get them
Speaker 1: stats in those sacks. To be a difference maker, you
Speaker 1: find the weak link of guy that you can take
Speaker 1: advantage of, and you go out there and you embarrass him,
Speaker 1: and you get your sacks, you get your forced fumbles,
Speaker 1: and you make that type of stuff happen. All right,
Speaker 1: if you're able to right the defensive coordinators when they
Speaker 1: see guys like Deebo Samuel and they see guys like
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, smart defensive coordinators do not put their players
Speaker 1: in one on ones against those guys. They find a
Speaker 1: way to make sure that you're in an advantageous position
Speaker 1: when you get a Dalvin Cook coming out of the
Speaker 1: flatter running those type of routs. Right, no matter how
Speaker 1: talented talented you are, you want to make the game easy.
Speaker 1: You want it to you want it to happen slowly,
Speaker 1: not being those personal situations every snap. All right, So
Speaker 1: I love them. I love his competitive nature, but that
Speaker 1: ain't the way that we should use Michael Parsons. That's
Speaker 1: not the way that that's gonna help our defense be
Speaker 1: the best defensive it could be. You know, I think
Speaker 1: you hand up a right on that d Mac. You
Speaker 1: gotta work smarter, not harder. And look, I love Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons and what he brings to the table. I mean
Speaker 1: his energy, his ferocity, just his passion for the game.
Speaker 1: Like I said before, it reminds me a lot of
Speaker 1: Dez Brian how he goes out there and handles his business.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he could be successful if he went
Speaker 1: out there and win against these guys each every snap.
Speaker 1: He would win a couple of those battles, because you know,
Speaker 1: he's that good of a player. But if you want
Speaker 1: to make an impact each and every game and be
Speaker 1: that guy and be that dominant guy, you gotta line
Speaker 1: up with these matchups. I mean, like you said, Mac,
Speaker 1: you don't want to go against a Trent Williams each
Speaker 1: and every snap. You don't want to go against one
Speaker 1: of these hor of fame tackles each and every snap.
Speaker 1: You want to get your easy pickings too. He looked
Speaker 1: at d Ware when we had him earlier in our
Speaker 1: in the career. That's all they did was put him,
Speaker 1: whether it's the weakest tackle on that side, if there's
Speaker 1: a week guard or a week center, they put him inside,
Speaker 1: blitzing him in there. They didn't always just line him
Speaker 1: up the one side to where teams can just sit
Speaker 1: there and say, all right, we're gonna focus our line
Speaker 1: on that side, and he might open up some things
Speaker 1: for other people on the other side. But this guy
Speaker 1: won't be successful. He won't make that impact of the game.
Speaker 1: So with me with Parsons, I love his tenacity. I
Speaker 1: love how he does this game and how he goes
Speaker 1: out there and has that passion for it. But if
Speaker 1: you want to be that dominating guy, sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to take you know, these weaker link guys and make
Speaker 1: them look foolish out there and get your start to
Speaker 1: You're not a cornerback, okay type of dude saying that
Speaker 1: type of stuff and they go out there and they
Speaker 1: get the cover best on best. That is an entirely
Speaker 1: different situation then you being able to run through a
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook or run through a Trent Williams and have
Speaker 1: to worry about what they're gonna do. Right, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you rushing Dodvin Cook and he running the
Speaker 1: screen and you got them man to man. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden you're like, oh, man, well now you gotta worry. Right,
Speaker 1: He's this thing for you to do is go find
Speaker 1: that that weak link and beat those dudes on the
Speaker 1: screen and make a sack force fumble. So smart enough, harder,
Speaker 1: But I believe DQ is in the right position. With
Speaker 1: him in the right position, we saw them, We saw
Speaker 1: that throughout the entire year, that he took advantage of
Speaker 1: those matchups thirteen sacks, three forced fumbles, eighty four tackles
Speaker 1: for the unanimous NFL Rookie of the Year. Who wants
Speaker 1: more and wants to be the best. And to me,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing I took out of the conversation
Speaker 1: was he's not done. Also, he spoke about the playoff loss. Richard,
Speaker 1: I see that's the great question. What happened m He
Speaker 1: talked about they thing said, they felt the pressure, and
Speaker 1: he said, I want to go into make an excuses.
Speaker 1: But also the first thing he brought up with your
Speaker 1: thank brought up the penalties. Brought up the penalties, and
Speaker 1: he said, too many on third down, which you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys played the game. The third down.
Speaker 1: Third down is where you where the game has made
Speaker 1: one of the loss on third and five and you
Speaker 1: stop them and you're thinking, I'll punt you and it's ready,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go plus safe, and then you see
Speaker 1: that yellow flag out there. It's it's the more allowing,
Speaker 1: especially if you're like on that fringe zone at fifty
Speaker 1: yard line and you stop on third down, then they
Speaker 1: get a whole new set of downs to get back
Speaker 1: and feel the man. It's it's depressing, man. It takes
Speaker 1: a lot out of you, especially because if it's self inflicting,
Speaker 1: like outside down you come on, bro, and you in
Speaker 1: the hu you hold like, look, they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: draw us off. Just hold your waters. And there's always
Speaker 1: that one guy that wants always I had to get
Speaker 1: a jump on it. No, you didn't, mans, again, Kelly,
Speaker 1: he was, he was. That was the classic Miranilly thing,
Speaker 1: like not get him out of here, he would do
Speaker 1: his little kid. So, how does Mike McCarthy go about
Speaker 1: fixing that? I mean, this is this is this was
Speaker 1: a tragic issue of last year's football team was the penalties,
Speaker 1: and he talked about correcting it in the offseason. He
Speaker 1: said during the year that it wasn't uncommon for his
Speaker 1: teams to have high penalty rates because they're changing the program.
Speaker 1: So from whatever was Jason Garrett to him and he's
Speaker 1: so he that was his kind of rationalization. Off sizes
Speaker 1: offside ain't all sizes outside Okay, it's it's we always
Speaker 1: talked about this. On defense, there are some penalties. They're
Speaker 1: just effort penalties and they just happen. Right. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: might get a hand to the face. Sometimes you might
Speaker 1: get a face mask if you might be reaching out,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you know, if your hand might those are
Speaker 1: something that you can like, all right, listen, we get it,
Speaker 1: all right. You go on as hard as you can.
Speaker 1: And that type of stuff happened. Maybe one of those
Speaker 1: those hitters on the quarterback where everybody's like, man, that's
Speaker 1: super requestible, like what else is he supposed to do?
Speaker 1: But when you got thirty five and you jumping off
Speaker 1: side and that's something that's consistently happened happening, those are
Speaker 1: things to where your team has to be disciplined enough. One,
Speaker 1: your players need to be focused enough when they get
Speaker 1: out there not to make those things, make those mistakes.
Speaker 1: But then coaching, you have to make sure you work
Speaker 1: on those situations while you're out there on the field.
Speaker 1: Hardcount has to be something that has done every snap,
Speaker 1: every practice until you find out that your team knows
Speaker 1: that that is coming and you do not jump outside. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's all about attenion to detail. I mean, especially if
Speaker 1: you're a defensive lineman. You're looking at the football. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not like okay, I'm I'm this. You're looking at
Speaker 1: the football to see when it snapps. So you gotta
Speaker 1: have that attention to detail, situational awareness to realize, all right,
Speaker 1: if I jump off side in this situation, how's it
Speaker 1: gonna affect my team or how's it gonna you know,
Speaker 1: get does it have that team being able to extend
Speaker 1: the drive? I mean, those are little things you got
Speaker 1: to think about, especially on the defensive line. And the
Speaker 1: penalty like that where you can control all of it,
Speaker 1: like Danny said, you can't control sometimes with a face
Speaker 1: mask or defensive pass interference, it's a judgment call. But
Speaker 1: if you can sit there and look at the ball
Speaker 1: and you're still jumping off side, that's a problem. You
Speaker 1: gotta have attention to detail. Randy Gregor is holding like that,
Speaker 1: Like those are things where you say, man, guys, that's
Speaker 1: a lack of focus in that moment. A frustration. So
Speaker 1: it's frustration like those are things that you can work on.
Speaker 1: You talk to those specific players or you put them
Speaker 1: in those positions and you say, this is how like,
Speaker 1: see what just happened at this point, right, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, and sometimes it didn't even happen. We used
Speaker 1: to be so mad at coaches. Right, JJ would come
Speaker 1: out there and then it'll be an incomplete pass on
Speaker 1: third and whatever, and the defense think we want and
Speaker 1: he'd be like, oh no, we gotta pass interference right,
Speaker 1: just to show you the impact that that would have
Speaker 1: if you do commit one of those penalties in those situations,
Speaker 1: and you know, most of the time he worked out right,
Speaker 1: You see how angry somebody is, right, and then you
Speaker 1: get one of the leaders come in and say, hey man,
Speaker 1: we got to tighten up right, And then it also
Speaker 1: helps you say this is now it's time for us
Speaker 1: to refocus. Okay, may have been a BS call, but
Speaker 1: now it's time for us to refocus and get back
Speaker 1: on track. But that was My next question was just
Speaker 1: and you guys, performer players, what's said in the room
Speaker 1: when you see these alarm I mean we're talking about
Speaker 1: him ten leven, twelve. I mean, these penalties were crazy
Speaker 1: to be cowboys were getting them. I think it depends
Speaker 1: on who's getting these peneties. Now, if it's like a
Speaker 1: guy like a you know, a situational guy that comes
Speaker 1: in every now and then and and he's costing the
Speaker 1: team penalties like that, and then of course he's gonna
Speaker 1: get jumped on pretty bad. Um. But if it's like
Speaker 1: a d law or like you know, Randy Gregory or
Speaker 1: somebody like that, that's that's causing these penalties, they should get,
Speaker 1: you know, get on or get attacked just like this
Speaker 1: other guy did. But I'm telling you it doesn't happen
Speaker 1: that way. Okay, now, and I'm not trying to pick
Speaker 1: on them, but let's he had some moments where where
Speaker 1: teams are going out Anthony Brown in a game look
Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving, where they're going out a guy like that
Speaker 1: and you know, boom, they're just happening like that. Is
Speaker 1: there anything set amongst players or or during the games
Speaker 1: that put on coaches and then after the game? Is
Speaker 1: anything set? No? I think in a situation where you
Speaker 1: have a guy like Anthony Brown at the start of
Speaker 1: the season, even us we're like, oh, man, like we're
Speaker 1: not sure what's going on. But then you got guys
Speaker 1: who throughout the season show you that they have the
Speaker 1: ability to cover guys without making those mistakes. Cornerbacks specifically
Speaker 1: have a harder time than anyone, right because the position
Speaker 1: that you play and the way that the game has changed,
Speaker 1: those type of situations are going to happen. Right. You'd
Speaker 1: be like, I didn't even do anything to this dude,
Speaker 1: and it's a passing efference. If you go back and
Speaker 1: look at some of the stuff that he was called for,
Speaker 1: some of it is questionable, right, And the players and
Speaker 1: the coaches see that. So sometimes you see a coach
Speaker 1: coming to the locker room and say, man, we get it,
Speaker 1: Like we understand, but you just gotta find a way, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta find a way, and you can tell the
Speaker 1: tone of the coach when he knows like they ain't
Speaker 1: really none we could do about it. And then some
Speaker 1: situations you gotta go back out there when you're doing
Speaker 1: when you're watching them do one on ones, you got
Speaker 1: that's when you see it. Hey, make sure you focus
Speaker 1: on not grabbing the jersey. All right, we want to
Speaker 1: see you make it consist of a concerted effort not
Speaker 1: to grab the jersey because this is what they continue
Speaker 1: to call you for. Yeah, I think it's definitely got
Speaker 1: to be you know, on the coaches to help correct
Speaker 1: that guy and get them in the right direction. We
Speaker 1: talked about Anthony Brown. I definitely think it's you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Whitten. Those guys got to come together and say,
Speaker 1: all right, this is what they're calling you for. You
Speaker 1: may want to, you know, slack off on this a
Speaker 1: little bit or make an adjustment here with that. But
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a lot of players coming and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you got to do this. That the third because if
Speaker 1: you're a corner, you know what's a D line gonna
Speaker 1: come over to you and say, hey, you better get
Speaker 1: your feet right. You better stop holding you or a
Speaker 1: line back, Hey, you better get underneath that. You can't like, no,
Speaker 1: you gotta you know it's it's I think it has
Speaker 1: to come down to the coaches, and I think that's
Speaker 1: where the players respond better with the coaches talking to
Speaker 1: them rather than another player coming and say you better
Speaker 1: get right. So McCarthy likes to use working point of emphasis,
Speaker 1: so this will be a point of emphasis for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys going to the offseason. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones clearly
Speaker 1: was upset after season about the penalty and he basically said,
Speaker 1: we saw this happen week one. Why why why did
Speaker 1: this happen all year long? And I think that's a
Speaker 1: legitimate point made by the owner. There's some people out
Speaker 1: there the like don't don't like it, you don't want
Speaker 1: the owners say thing. But to me, the owner is
Speaker 1: saying really what the fans are saying, and people in the
Speaker 1: the meeting a saying like, why is it this being
Speaker 1: corrected here? Because it is costing you games and we
Speaker 1: saw it in a playoff game cost you and and
Speaker 1: to be fair, some stuff you just can't correct because
Speaker 1: some of it is just the caliber of the player
Speaker 1: that you have, Like when we were watching our left
Speaker 1: guard the left side of the line, and you say, man,
Speaker 1: these these type of things are happening. Sometimes you just
Speaker 1: get ran through and you gotti grab to protect your quarterback.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it's the discipline of the players based off
Speaker 1: how the coaches are coaching them, and sometimes it's just
Speaker 1: hey man, some players just aren't good enough not to
Speaker 1: put themselves in that situation. So do you think it's
Speaker 1: y'all think I'm an ash all this? Do you'll think
Speaker 1: it's more of an accountability issue like that? Out of
Speaker 1: one issue where we're talking about Randy Gregor, I think
Speaker 1: it was a playoff game, like a third and five,
Speaker 1: and he just randomly just went out there and tire
Speaker 1: on the offensive linemen, like he tackled a guy out
Speaker 1: of frustration. Maybe because he wasn't making a lot of
Speaker 1: plays out there, I'm not sure, But do you think
Speaker 1: that's more of an accountability issue, like man, you know
Speaker 1: damn with these coaches say I'm gonna do me? Or
Speaker 1: do you think it's just, hey man, he just had
Speaker 1: a brain far I think I think it was a
Speaker 1: brain for I think it was one of those those
Speaker 1: those lack lack of judgment in that situation which we've
Speaker 1: all had. Right when you see guys something, a lot
Speaker 1: of times you don't get called for, but you might
Speaker 1: go push a guy in the bag, or you might
Speaker 1: tell mess a little bit too much and you might
Speaker 1: not get called for. But when you get back to
Speaker 1: the huddle and you and you and your teammates are
Speaker 1: telling you, hey, bro, you gotta calm down with that,
Speaker 1: right then, you know you had one of those lack
Speaker 1: of judgment moments. And I think that was what Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory had in that moment. I don't think that's anything
Speaker 1: you can coach. You can't be out there and be like,
Speaker 1: hey bro, no, hey, we're gonna run this player, don't
Speaker 1: grabble right like. You just gotta tell you brother, come
Speaker 1: on you better than that that old line you would
Speaker 1: hear coaches say either you're coaching or you're letting that happen.
Speaker 1: But he's they're telling them. One he knows that he
Speaker 1: messed up to somebody's going to tell him. But that's
Speaker 1: not something that you take out there and you put
Speaker 1: in the script and say all right, hey, come on bro,
Speaker 1: because one, you know, that's not being coached. So they
Speaker 1: don't even know where they came from right. They just
Speaker 1: know that he was out there and he just he
Speaker 1: just made a mistake, a bad decision. Yeah, so there's
Speaker 1: no fear of hey, man just cost us a third
Speaker 1: down that we gotta run out there again. We just
Speaker 1: know it's a fear. But I mean, I don't stop.
Speaker 1: You know, you had a lack right people. People get
Speaker 1: in situations to where their emotions takeover. Is emotional game.
Speaker 1: And as long as it's something where if he did
Speaker 1: that the next play, then yes, that's like all right listen.
Speaker 1: So so let me ask you this. I'm sorry with you, Barry.
Speaker 1: What is your faith that Mike McCarthy can't get this
Speaker 1: fix going into twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'm gonna give him. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: him a six out of ten thinking that he can
Speaker 1: change this just because he has a more veteran team
Speaker 1: or than he had in the past. So I think
Speaker 1: he give him a benefit. I think he needed it,
Speaker 1: maybe a six out of ten. The reason I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a ten out of ten is because you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like Mike McCarthy. I'm not saying he doesn't
Speaker 1: really do much. But when he's on the sidelines, it
Speaker 1: just it's to me like I never see him going
Speaker 1: out there, Hey, come over here, let me talk to
Speaker 1: you for a second. I never see him that is.
Speaker 1: It's always the coordinators doing something. He's just over there
Speaker 1: kind of sitting there like this, not saying that. You know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't make adjustments on half time or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But I just really don't see him getting after people
Speaker 1: when they make mistakes during the game, say he's not
Speaker 1: doing much by saying he's not okay, all right now.
Speaker 1: Lit So, defensively, I think ultimate faith in dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be able to find some
Speaker 1: of those situations. Put him on whatever vision, on the
Speaker 1: on Quinn vision, what about McCarthy and let him That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Defensively, this is why I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: an eight out of ten, because I think that dan
Speaker 1: Quinn is going to handle his defense. Offensively is where
Speaker 1: you're going to have to figure out how you get
Speaker 1: some of this stuff fixed. And that starts to me
Speaker 1: with the offensive line. All right, So I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna see some new guys coming here on the offensive
Speaker 1: line because I do think that the lack of ability
Speaker 1: that we had specifically on our left side, calls some
Speaker 1: of the those penalties for you your footwork, maybe you're
Speaker 1: not big enough, maybe your anchor is not right, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're bad. Offensive line plays
Speaker 1: turn into two penalties that you shouldn't be getting. So
Speaker 1: I think bringing some new players in, I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna help. But I think michaccarth didn't get that right.
Speaker 1: Cowboys at the twenty fourth pick in the first round
Speaker 1: of the draft, we have talked about the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: had anna the family hairline be right here starting, I
Speaker 1: ain't even already already behind we come out behind. The
Speaker 1: y'all really all related to Lebron. Lebron got that medicine.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it gets difference, Okay, I see
Speaker 1: some of us can go ahead and we're gone. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna put up. Ain't gonna be putting no no
Speaker 1: grass patches. Man, I ain't trying to see a here Lebron.
Speaker 1: That's that's gonna be weird. I don't Lebron the little
Speaker 1: past bros just to be. It's like man to dude.
Speaker 1: One day he'll have the whole thing missing, like the
Speaker 1: big patches, and then I see a commercial here he
Speaker 1: got the whole way three six? Would you rather have
Speaker 1: Lebron or k d oh Lebron? All right, just lazy man.
Speaker 1: You gotta could have put a bristol brush to that man.
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm just saying, so he better than somebody
Speaker 1: he laid. He don't pullotion on his ankles. You know
Speaker 1: you're lazy. Come on, come pay him to us money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look where he put three head of milk, got the
Speaker 1: hair looking like that? Come on, man, shot, just need
Speaker 1: to get him out with his gold on. You know
Speaker 1: I found covering Dan actually bottom up shiny on ahead.
Speaker 1: Ain't that that? Keep it low? He need the brushes.
Speaker 1: It must hurt, he must be, he must So this
Speaker 1: is the player. So damn Craig very Church to restruct
Speaker 1: So as as teammates, can you crack off these guys
Speaker 1: considering in the basketball realm, you know they are you know, dude,
Speaker 1: he getting talked about, He getting talked about, talked, He
Speaker 1: getting talked about, get airtime aaradtime they posted his meme
Speaker 1: and they zoom in on him or something. Somebody said
Speaker 1: they over the giggling man. Yeah, they said, looking, I mean,
Speaker 1: and then you see the one time I think what
Speaker 1: was before, you know, he had to treat He had
Speaker 1: to treatment, but I think he missed a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks on or something. He had the head in, he
Speaker 1: had the headband, so I think his headband got knocked
Speaker 1: back during the game one time and he put your
Speaker 1: guy and laughing, put your head banging down, Lebron, He's oh,
Speaker 1: snap on my back and now you know what I
Speaker 1: feel him because when I first started shave in my head,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go nowhere without it, you know, the little
Speaker 1: thing on my head, or so I didn't want nobody knowing.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I was playing against the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: D Macu was there. I think me and Marshawn Lynch
Speaker 1: Boom met in the hall. Boom tackled him. I felt good,
Speaker 1: got up. The helmet was way over there somewhere, Oh
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Speaker 1: hell and give the health. They had a good time
Speaker 1: with that in film The bottom Out Freshly Shade and
Speaker 1: I had a side joint going on. But it was good.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was good. I do remember that
Speaker 1: Jason Witten did not take well to any jokes about here.
Speaker 1: I was a lot locker. I wish I was that.
Speaker 1: It was kind of that was kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: you went over the line because he was one of
Speaker 1: the ones that was jokes in the locker room. You
Speaker 1: got the fresh shaved church. Oh, I wish I was
Speaker 1: in that locker room when he got the fresh sha
Speaker 1: It does okay, you know, and then't the money and
Speaker 1: that football made him put that thing on yeah the como.
Speaker 1: No no, no, but oh you can't. You can't code
Speaker 1: that much. You ken't code that much. But Breeze doing
Speaker 1: to him. I didn't think breeze hair was like that.
Speaker 1: And I've seen him. I'm like, hold on now, I
Speaker 1: saw him on the one we'd inter y'all. No, I
Speaker 1: want to say. They got to me too, So so
Speaker 1: what they get to us? All? Got this consultant she
Speaker 1: can she gets to us? All? Is it really like
Speaker 1: like if you go in the studios, they're like, man,
Speaker 1: you might want to put something on top of your head.
Speaker 1: You want, They'll tell you whatever it is they don't
Speaker 1: like about you. Oh damn. You know. Like the over
Speaker 1: girl came up to me and she works so saying
Speaker 1: for Doling, Doling, What are you gonna do about that?
Speaker 1: She's talking about money, great man, so sods like that. Dude, dude,
Speaker 1: she told me to stop wearing the pinch dripe. She
Speaker 1: too fat for the pinch dripe. She just English. Lady,
Speaker 1: come up, just stab you or hurt your feelings. Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't seen you in no pripe. Remember that the
Speaker 1: brother I threw suits away, Like you know I pay
Speaker 1: for this? Who you talking all right, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pull us on out here. Something going a goody bag.
Speaker 1: So a lot of this wasn't playing neither, so let
Speaker 1: me see what do we puddle about it? This is
Speaker 1: brown Jael, So I said, I got grays right here.
Speaker 1: So she's like, Darling, what are you going to do?
Speaker 1: So before I going there in the trade, but the
Speaker 1: tricks of trade looking from so far, Yeah, look at
Speaker 1: that altar, the little altar story and he could just
Speaker 1: wash it out. Yeah, man, So that's that's what I
Speaker 1: do before I go on TV. Man, So I ain't
Speaker 1: even realize that you have had no gray on TV
Speaker 1: right there. So yeah, this is what I'm growing, the
Speaker 1: low one because I was just super Bowl. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: so I just put it on just like that. She's like, Darling, Darling,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I can't believe it? All tricks
Speaker 1: in the trade out of him one little grade here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go far down. Now here's what you don't want,
Speaker 1: you know, you want you to find yourself out here,
Speaker 1: Like Rudy Giuliani, I hear sweating like ink spots all
Speaker 1: down on you know. You know that that Carlos Bouger
Speaker 1: used to have that spray paint hairline. So that's that's
Speaker 1: just one of the things that so so when I
Speaker 1: saw Drew Brill, okay, but I got it. Man, They
Speaker 1: get us all over there. Man ain't telling you. So
Speaker 1: at some point in time, you got to figure out
Speaker 1: how you do you want to live in your truth
Speaker 1: or you try to do what they tell you to. Dude,
Speaker 1: took me. It took me a while before I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, damn, but I'm a ball man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm Later it told me a little bit.
Speaker 1: So for me, the whole ball thing was never a
Speaker 1: big deal because you know, growing up in North Carolina. Well, Mike,
Speaker 1: what's Michael Jordan did it? It was fine, And a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know Michael's first year, he was
Speaker 1: a sophomore, shaved his head, came up with this lie.
Speaker 1: Well I just wanted to wash away last year or
Speaker 1: what happened was he was he was pleasant, he was online,
Speaker 1: he was online, so they all had to get it off.
Speaker 1: So that was a lie he told. And then I
Speaker 1: think what says his first maybe it's his second year.
Speaker 1: There's a black haircare product company North Carolina called Dudley,
Speaker 1: so he was doing Dudley haircare products. His hair fall out.
Speaker 1: That's how that's how he lost his head. He was
Speaker 1: uting done the hair care right, and then he just
Speaker 1: just shaved it all off because people like, man, what
Speaker 1: what I mean what Lebron got. Michael was kind of
Speaker 1: even worse because it was Michael hair. And that was
Speaker 1: back when he wanted to have hair and it was
Speaker 1: no social media. But his hair was just falling out,
Speaker 1: man like it clumps, and then he just shaved it off.
Speaker 1: And that's how he got to be what he was.
Speaker 1: And so then it was just like cool to do,
Speaker 1: cool thing to do. He had paid Dulas some money
Speaker 1: get their products right, but they got the Baldi ready.
Speaker 1: But he had had the beanie caps on. You know that.
Speaker 1: You know, Michael Jackson was ball till he was dead.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what you just said, Mike Jackson. But
Speaker 1: it was a wig the whole time. Mike Jackson, dude
Speaker 1: ain't had no hair. Yes, what do you talk about?
Speaker 1: You talk about Mike jack No no nose, no hair.
Speaker 1: There was a whole bunch of stuff for my Michael's
Speaker 1: artificial man. Mike, look at his head. Okay, first off,
Speaker 1: look at his hair towards the end of his life.
Speaker 1: I mean it was kind black people. You know, look
Speaker 1: like that Snoop at the Super Bowl. Okay, Snoop got hair. Okay,
Speaker 1: Snoop got here, Michael Snoop ol he deceive even cats
Speaker 1: because his joint though his drags don't really start to
Speaker 1: like right head. So when you got that much money,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to import and do a whole
Speaker 1: But Snoop, Snoop, he got that like the like the
Speaker 1: mixed grade type of hair. Though it's not you know,
Speaker 1: it's snok you got when you got that much money,
Speaker 1: you can import and touch it up. So you say,
Speaker 1: Snoop hair of faith. I would say Snoop might have
Speaker 1: some help, some help at that age. You know, we
Speaker 1: get a little help at that age. A start doing
Speaker 1: this weave stuff and look you got you got this
Speaker 1: image up hold you know, so I can see Snoop
Speaker 1: he got that, see it, I can see it here,
Speaker 1: I can see it. Plays last, let's get into the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Because with the first pick in the first round,
Speaker 1: the cabin was the number twenty four overall, and judging
Speaker 1: by social media, there is a huge amount of Cowboy
Speaker 1: Nation that wants an offensive tackle or a guard. They
Speaker 1: want the offensive line of dressing. Daniel Jeremiah NFL dot
Speaker 1: Com does the show Moving the Sticks of Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 1: Good Good Podcast. Listen at this stat In the last
Speaker 1: five Super Bowl winning teams, twenty five starters on the
Speaker 1: offensive line, three were home grown first round picks, and
Speaker 1: its point being, look, just make sure you don't have
Speaker 1: trash out there. That said, find some good players. But
Speaker 1: just that's pretty outstanding. I mean, to me, that's a
Speaker 1: pretty interesting number. Twenty five starters last five Super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning teams, only three of them were taken in the
Speaker 1: first round. That's interesting, I mean because at homegrown and
Speaker 1: homegrown by the way, home grown by the way. That's
Speaker 1: that's guys, just wanted to get your thoughts. But that
Speaker 1: don't meaning they ain't gonna do with us. Line ain't
Speaker 1: gonna had nothing to do with us, all right, because
Speaker 1: we've seen that our ability to make it to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, right, you gotta get there first before you
Speaker 1: can put be on that stat line, all right, And
Speaker 1: what held us back oftentimes this year was our offensive
Speaker 1: line play. Either it was ability on the offensive line
Speaker 1: or availability on the offensive line. So you gotta get
Speaker 1: there before you can talk about the stat of what
Speaker 1: happens once you're in the super Bowl. We need to
Speaker 1: get there first, and the first thing we need to
Speaker 1: do is get back to when we had the dominant
Speaker 1: offensive line, all right, when people used to fear playing
Speaker 1: against us because of what our offensive line could do
Speaker 1: to them, change the entire game, mood, the line of skirmage.
Speaker 1: We can control the clock based off what our offensive
Speaker 1: line was able to do. And until we get back
Speaker 1: there again, we're gonna keep running into the same wall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you understand, and I'm which we gotta address. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: the left guard position. We gotta address that officive line overall.
Speaker 1: But even when we had you know, the great, the
Speaker 1: best offensive line for that span whatever it was from
Speaker 1: you know, twenty twelve to twenty sixteen, we only won
Speaker 1: one playoff game, you know that that whole entire time.
Speaker 1: So we had the best officive line, we had the
Speaker 1: best running back and either DeMarco or Ezekiel Elliott. We
Speaker 1: had a great running running game. But we still want
Speaker 1: to be able to get over the hunt. We're in
Speaker 1: that same position, even if with the bad offensive line
Speaker 1: we had this year. So I'm with you, I think
Speaker 1: we need to address God, Dresice, come kinda with you.
Speaker 1: I think we need to address this. I'm just not
Speaker 1: saying that the officive line, having a supreme officive line
Speaker 1: automatically guarantees us going far in the playoffs. So no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. But when when you have everything that you have,
Speaker 1: and the weak link of our team this year is
Speaker 1: what as you think it's gonna be our defense, and
Speaker 1: our defense shows up and what you need in order
Speaker 1: to run. We're not running the ball, but if you're
Speaker 1: if you're running the ball, then you want your office
Speaker 1: allowing to be great and then you get gonna throw
Speaker 1: the ball as much as you are. Then you need
Speaker 1: a great pass, pass setting offensive line. And I think
Speaker 1: that's something that held us back this year, you know,
Speaker 1: along with penalties. It wasn't just the only thing, but
Speaker 1: the longer penalties and all that stuff. But I feel
Speaker 1: like our best shot is to make sure that we
Speaker 1: have a more than decent offensive line and guys who
Speaker 1: are available. Let me ask you this, would you rather
Speaker 1: solidify an offensive line, you know, whatever we got to
Speaker 1: do in that first round, solidify that or with a
Speaker 1: lot of the pieces leaving on defense. Put some more capital,
Speaker 1: whether it's drafts, re agency towards that defensive the defensive efforts,
Speaker 1: so we can have that same type of It wasn't
Speaker 1: top ten, but it was extremely productive defense. Would you
Speaker 1: rather have have the resources on that side or fix
Speaker 1: that offensive line? Can't? I think? Okay? Just to start,
Speaker 1: I think it depends on who we lose on defense.
Speaker 1: I think it depends on who we lose, all right.
Speaker 1: If you start losing Tank and Randy and later Vandera's,
Speaker 1: then you have to put some resources to your defense.
Speaker 1: You have to because you just can't leave them out
Speaker 1: to drive like that. All right. It was a big
Speaker 1: part the pass rush and our ability to pressure the
Speaker 1: quarterback helped our secondary be able to play the way
Speaker 1: that they played and get those interceptions and get those turnovers.
Speaker 1: So you can't just leave them out to drive. But
Speaker 1: our offensive line needs to be fixed. So if I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm looking, if I'm ranking them priority offensive line,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going, uh, those defensive pieces, looking at
Speaker 1: the All Pro the best of the best this year.
Speaker 1: The offensive line spot um just kind of go through
Speaker 1: the first and second team guys. Left tackle Trent Williams
Speaker 1: first round draft pick deserved. Rashaun Slater, first round draft pick,
Speaker 1: second team left tackle, left guard, Joe Patonio, Cleveland UM
Speaker 1: second round pick Quentin Nelson, Um second team's first rounder,
Speaker 1: first rounder Jason Kelsey center with Philadelphia fifth round pick
Speaker 1: um Corey Lindsay, the second team All Pro center for
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Round pick right guards Zack Martin, first round pick.
Speaker 1: White Teller of Cleveland would say he was a he
Speaker 1: is a fifth round pick, so you got him, and
Speaker 1: then over at the right tackle position, Tristan Worths of
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, first round pick. Them tackles in the first round,
Speaker 1: them tackles in the first round. Johnson, the first round pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta have that talent on the side, at least
Speaker 1: the guards of fifth rounders, the tackles they got here playing.
Speaker 1: So hey, look look, I mean I can sit up
Speaker 1: here and just you know, I'm just saying you this context.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta say, you see, you did fifth rounders,
Speaker 1: but a lot of them dudes was guards. Every time
Speaker 1: you said first help one hours later, it was tin
Speaker 1: it was it was. But you know it's how I
Speaker 1: gave you the whole thing, trying to spend that tried
Speaker 1: to hide it. Yeah, got to hide it. And he's like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, oh, wait, ta another tackle in the first
Speaker 1: because what you were trying to say, what they don't
Speaker 1: have to be drafted in the first one. I didn't,
Speaker 1: but the All Pro list shows you that those tackles
Speaker 1: are usually drafted in the first But what I wanted
Speaker 1: to do was like, Okay, let's look at the All
Speaker 1: Pro lestens, see what's here, and then okay, okay, gate
Speaker 1: will happen? Can you get a premier tackle at twenty four? Like,
Speaker 1: can you get one of those? Yes, the Saint Scott
Speaker 1: The Saints got that m ramsack Ryan Rama, they got
Speaker 1: him late. I think it depends on the needs of
Speaker 1: the teams and how many quarterbacks available, how many the
Speaker 1: court once the quarterback market, you know, if you get
Speaker 1: three four, then yeah, you know you can have the opportunity.
Speaker 1: So so basically, if you get those, you know, the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you get a draft of quarterbacks, some pass rushers up there,
Speaker 1: and you know, people fall in love with the receivers.
Speaker 1: You can see some of these linemen drop down. Um,
Speaker 1: but but there's you know, look, there's no doubt man,
Speaker 1: what they've done right here in terms of this all
Speaker 1: pro team. Okay, okay, okay, you got to invest, you
Speaker 1: got to invest, you know, and then we think about
Speaker 1: Trent Williams. You don't have to be homegrown at that
Speaker 1: point because you got a guy who was in Washington
Speaker 1: and then now he's in San fran But is absolutely
Speaker 1: just that just shows you how bad that franchise is.
Speaker 1: I mean, how does a guy like that get away?
Speaker 1: That man said, I'm not playing. That's how you got out.
Speaker 1: I retire. He held and he said, you know, you
Speaker 1: misdiagnosed me. I don't like how it was, don't trust
Speaker 1: you the more, and I'm done. But that's just that's
Speaker 1: just that's just one reason why Washington struggled too much.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't let a Hall of Fame type
Speaker 1: talent like that get out to do over this and
Speaker 1: it's prime. This guy goes over here in San Francisco
Speaker 1: and you know, help help make them all pro but
Speaker 1: also you know, helps them make make a Super Bowl run. Um,
Speaker 1: that's how important offensive line is. Right when when they start,
Speaker 1: when you start doing the scouting report and they're talking
Speaker 1: about people who are who might not play, and a
Speaker 1: left tackle as a guy, You're like, oh, man, this
Speaker 1: he's a game changer, not just in the past right
Speaker 1: because you you're holding off the best pass rusher, but
Speaker 1: for the tone of your offense, like Trent Williams was
Speaker 1: setting the tone for the offening, like he's out of
Speaker 1: the game, that we're not sure what these guys are
Speaker 1: gonna do, Like he only played one side. What offen
Speaker 1: the lineman, you know, is leading the team out of
Speaker 1: the time. That has never happened for either the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know why, I receiver? Maybe I running. He got
Speaker 1: Trent Williams holding the boombox leading the team out there.
Speaker 1: This just shows you how important he is to that team.
Speaker 1: And I give Kyle Shanahan a lot of credit because
Speaker 1: the guy went from Joe Staley and went out there
Speaker 1: and made the deal with Trent Williams. So he understands, Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to run the football. I also want to
Speaker 1: be able to throw it. I gotta have my gotta
Speaker 1: have a good left tackle. You say you want to
Speaker 1: do both running through balanced A good guy, here's the tack.
Speaker 1: Ain't you gotta say you got good running backs? This dude,
Speaker 1: whoever you put in there for the for the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, especially because I think it was like two
Speaker 1: years ago. I'm playing fantasy football. I'm like, whoever is
Speaker 1: on the forty nine and starting that week, you better play.
Speaker 1: And they were going out there getting one six. That
Speaker 1: comes from dad. I mean Dad was out there making
Speaker 1: you know, just oh hey, Clinton Ports going down the road, man,
Speaker 1: we'd be good. Give me that, give me that corner
Speaker 1: and Champ Bailey and he just kept on rubing drones
Speaker 1: and all these like who are these guys making making
Speaker 1: it work? Because you know, because your office line is ready,
Speaker 1: what your scheme is ready? What are the dumbest deals ever?
Speaker 1: Going back to Washington, You're gonna trade Champ Bailey for
Speaker 1: a running back? What are you doing? What do you
Speaker 1: do the corners of you trade a guy who's who's
Speaker 1: in Canton for? I mean, hey, man, I like Clinton Ports.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, nice running back, but you came
Speaker 1: out to you. They just kept on producing you was
Speaker 1: a good running back into you. But now they was here,
Speaker 1: here's Willis, Yeah, here he just kept putting. You know,
Speaker 1: you can find these dudes. But a corner like champ back, champion,
Speaker 1: good corner man, the top five guy, come up. I
Speaker 1: never got that move, but hey, you know what. Good
Speaker 1: on the Broncos. They made the move Washington once again.
Speaker 1: Let let good talent roll on out the door here
Speaker 1: and escape with us. Let's get another break in here. Um,
Speaker 1: I want to dive into Kyler Murray and the combine
Speaker 1: these shoes here, combine coming up. Players about to say, no, oh,
Speaker 1: stay indoor, locking us down, We'll stay at home NFL day.
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Speaker 1: just a different way. So they're they're in lies, they're
Speaker 1: in lines. That that's that's that's what you got you
Speaker 1: gotta do right there, combines coming up here. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sit up and tell players you all
Speaker 1: gona be on lockdown. Sit in your room right up
Speaker 1: in here. They said, you want to bet well. Player
Speaker 1: agents like, uh no, no, because we got business. We
Speaker 1: got business, can conduct meet people. Players are like, no, no,
Speaker 1: so And it's just so funny because you know, the
Speaker 1: NFL act like COVID didn't exist doing the Super Bowl playoffs.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody out of nobody? Everybody was. It was funny
Speaker 1: because they were we were going out there like, well,
Speaker 1: what if something happens to COVID. I said, ain't nobody
Speaker 1: COVID though it's over. The NFL's over anthony facts, you
Speaker 1: don't call us, don't answer that through right, you know what?
Speaker 1: It wasn't no that wasn't a sickness. It was nothing
Speaker 1: out there, but everybody was mine for everything was per
Speaker 1: But now for the combine. Now cold Covid is back. Hey, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: COVID's back. Lock it up. So so I thought it
Speaker 1: was cleverbody age play like you know, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: do this. And the NFL, oh, by the way, has
Speaker 1: a whole couple of days of television. They've got a
Speaker 1: broadcast to you. So, uh, you know when the top
Speaker 1: players not gonna be there, and you know you're talking
Speaker 1: about a percentage to maybe twenty five to forty percent
Speaker 1: of these guys saying now I'm out all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, going going down the road, a good talking,
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Speaker 1: won't you good? It's a business. You start. You started
Speaker 1: messing with that bottom when the bottom line you missed
Speaker 1: that bottom line? Switch it up. I need to talk
Speaker 1: what you needed to talk about it. I found it
Speaker 1: very interesting there. So when it comes to this combine,
Speaker 1: what frustrates you about the process. My experience, it was
Speaker 1: just the waiting to actually get to do the combine drills.
Speaker 1: Like you there a couple of days before you even
Speaker 1: hit the field to run your forty, to do all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. You're there like two days earlier. You
Speaker 1: get your high your weight, which is all good. You
Speaker 1: get all that done, and then you just got meetings
Speaker 1: on top of meetings on top of meetings, and you
Speaker 1: don't have enough room to actually you can't like go
Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis Stadium and go in there and work
Speaker 1: on your forty times, work on your get outs anything
Speaker 1: like that. You're stagging it and you're in meetings in
Speaker 1: your hotel meetings. Then you eat. I mean, there's no
Speaker 1: real football going on until you get to the combat.
Speaker 1: So that whole waiting process for me, it's just and
Speaker 1: they're poking in pride and you and you're stretching it
Speaker 1: this way and you had a hamstring pull back in
Speaker 1: you know, two thousand and five. You know how you
Speaker 1: feel about that. Yet it I'm like, man, I don't
Speaker 1: remember that. I don't ask you all different types of questions.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to the football situation. And
Speaker 1: then you got meetings with coaches, and that parts a little.
Speaker 1: That parts cool because you know you're breaking down NFL
Speaker 1: defenses like I went with Brett Maxie who used to
Speaker 1: be the defensive cordner or defensive back coach here with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and he was putting me through all the
Speaker 1: coverage the Cowboys dude. So you yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: But outside of that, I mean, it's just literally your
Speaker 1: hotel room. You're getting poked in product by doctors. Hotel
Speaker 1: room eat hotel room doctors, and then you get to
Speaker 1: go to the common actually do the things you want
Speaker 1: to do, and sometimes that affects people and they don't
Speaker 1: run the best times. They could well shout out to
Speaker 1: the people who did not even get invited to the
Speaker 1: combine and they just went to protect where we did
Speaker 1: that all in the same day and got your height,
Speaker 1: your way, your verio ill drill everything within four or
Speaker 1: five hours and it was over and it was good,
Speaker 1: and you knew exactly how people felt about you when
Speaker 1: you walked out of that building, because if they liked you,
Speaker 1: they would pull you to the side. Hey man, you know,
Speaker 1: we think you did a great job. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Ask you those questions and you just move on. You know.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we don't get to meet with the coaches and
Speaker 1: get you know, go through breaking down film and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. But I didn't go to the combine, so
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. But but but I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that it's one of those you know, I
Speaker 1: want to kind of compare it to TV but hurt
Speaker 1: you up and wait, hurry up and get here and
Speaker 1: where you gotta hurry up and getting this line and
Speaker 1: then wait, hurry up and do this and then wait.
Speaker 1: And it's really only beneficial for those guys that are
Speaker 1: combined warriors, work out warriors, like like Byron Jones. Guy,
Speaker 1: I can, you know, test out the waters. You can
Speaker 1: run a four to three, jump twelve three, got a
Speaker 1: forty four in vertical. That's where the combine is great.
Speaker 1: But then you got guys like a Cooper Cup who
Speaker 1: you know, might run a four to six, you know,
Speaker 1: might not jump as far, might not you know, his
Speaker 1: numbers might not be great, but he's a hell of
Speaker 1: a football player on the field. So it's just you know,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I think sometimes these coaches and these
Speaker 1: organizations they put too much stock in how fast this
Speaker 1: guy can run the forty or how big he how
Speaker 1: explosive he is. Can the guy actually go on tape
Speaker 1: or get on the field and then put out good
Speaker 1: tape like that. You know. So let me ask this question,
Speaker 1: and this is just from a from the only thing
Speaker 1: that I can compare to have, you know, not being
Speaker 1: of an eleague ballplayer like you guys were. Is it
Speaker 1: like the SAT from the standpoint of, hey, here's the
Speaker 1: standardized test. Maybe if everybody go and use it. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the damn day you arrive on campus,
Speaker 1: either you can get it and you can't get it,
Speaker 1: and then of course nobody, nobody knows who's gonna rive
Speaker 1: on campus and start drinking like a fish or you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's all these other things. How much you
Speaker 1: really don't love schools or you can't operate being out
Speaker 1: on your home? That is it? Do you aking it
Speaker 1: to kind of that situation a little bit? I would
Speaker 1: say yes to that extent of Like one, you could
Speaker 1: pass the SAT and football wise, you can pass the
Speaker 1: combine and get out there on the field and suck
Speaker 1: at it, right, or you could do what you can
Speaker 1: suck at the SAT. And because you're a great football player,
Speaker 1: SAT being the forty and all that stuff, but you're
Speaker 1: a great football player and you can get out there
Speaker 1: and show some stuff that you are able to show
Speaker 1: just by running the forty or getting your hand measure,
Speaker 1: or doing the drills that they're making you run through
Speaker 1: while you're at the combine. So to some extent, yes,
Speaker 1: some of it is very unnecessary. But they do have
Speaker 1: some guys to where it's beneficial for them to talk
Speaker 1: to coaches, guys who have behavioral issues. You know, they
Speaker 1: want to figure out if this guy is really a
Speaker 1: good guy or if he's going to continue to be
Speaker 1: what they heard you was while they're in college. So
Speaker 1: it's beneficial to some standpoint. But when you talk about
Speaker 1: just the measurables, the forties and all this other stuff,
Speaker 1: sometimes I think it does get taken a little bit
Speaker 1: too serious. I think it does. It's over blown. I mean, looks,
Speaker 1: you know, disrespect them. But our friend a quasi quasi
Speaker 1: us wants a perfect example. Yeah, it's part of your
Speaker 1: dog team. He he went to the combat and destroyed it.
Speaker 1: Friend great, jumped out of the gym reps. Everything was
Speaker 1: smart on the board like he did everything great. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys drafted him in the forethfrown. It's the safety. We meet.
Speaker 1: Me and mccraig come in here. We're all in you know,
Speaker 1: rookie camp and all that good stuff. He's a forefrownd gather,
Speaker 1: doing everything to get him in there, but he just
Speaker 1: couldn't play. He just wasn't that good of a football player.
Speaker 1: And me and we went to the combine. Art numbers
Speaker 1: were nowhere near as good as his, but our career
Speaker 1: on the field and actually being football players, we ended
Speaker 1: up being a little bit better. So it's just I
Speaker 1: just I would say this, and I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: some pros after I knocking down a little bit. My
Speaker 1: numbers were great at the pro day. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: the one who was most successful probably had this little
Speaker 1: I had the worst time. I had the worst out
Speaker 1: of everything. And it sometimes it works out that way, right.
Speaker 1: I played longer than Quasi, You played longer than me,
Speaker 1: You made more money that both of us. Like you,
Speaker 1: you had a longer, longer career, but you had your time.
Speaker 1: I was a four to six these dudes was four
Speaker 1: for four for four. Quasi was a four three seven times.
Speaker 1: All that good stuff and it, but being a football
Speaker 1: player sometimes that like those numbers don't tell you how
Speaker 1: good him a football player you are. How much does
Speaker 1: it matter just about the scheme fit you're going to
Speaker 1: I think that's huge. Look at curse, Look at it
Speaker 1: wasn't you know he couldn't crack to feel really in
Speaker 1: Detroit and Minnesota. And then dan Quinn gets his hands
Speaker 1: on him and this guy was, you know, on the
Speaker 1: cusp of being a pro bowler. So I think scheme
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at before when was it Marinelli system, that LV and
Speaker 1: a Van or Jalen Smith one hunder they pro bowl.
Speaker 1: They were, you know, the two best hand them in
Speaker 1: the league. Then Mike Nolan comes in here and then boom,
Speaker 1: they fell off. They fell off the earth. That's how
Speaker 1: the point of scheme is because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of times here, specifically when I was playing and when
Speaker 1: you were playing, we tried to make things like interchangeable.
Speaker 1: All right. It was like, all right, you play strong,
Speaker 1: you can play free. But me and you both know
Speaker 1: that stronger free ain't the same. If you play a
Speaker 1: week linebacker and you can play Sam lineback, they not
Speaker 1: the same because they try to make it say, well
Speaker 1: you just lining up on a different side of the field.
Speaker 1: There not mirror positions. And I think a guy like
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn coming in and saying this is what curse
Speaker 1: can do, this is what he good at. I think
Speaker 1: we heard Will McClay say the same thing. We know
Speaker 1: how to put guys in the correct position, all right,
Speaker 1: and no, those are those things are not interchangeable. A
Speaker 1: strong safety who can get down there and cover of
Speaker 1: tighten and could not necessarily get back there and play
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, that's probably not what he's
Speaker 1: good at most of the time. Let's end it right here,
Speaker 1: as we were running out of time here on the
Speaker 1: players Lounge about you by hotels dot com. Cowboys have
Speaker 1: already gone through their whole quarterbacks contract situation. Here come
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals dealing with Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray's been
Speaker 1: in the league three years, made the Pro Bowl two
Speaker 1: out of three years, Rookie of the Year, just led
Speaker 1: them to the playoffs. His agent comes out and Kyla Murray,
Speaker 1: they want they pay me, come on out, show men money.
Speaker 1: So looking at that, and I think, all right, number
Speaker 1: two contracts in the NFL, because number one is Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: NFL MVP, Super Bowl MVP Josh Allen Buffalo Bill six years,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty eight million, dollars one hundred million guarantee.
Speaker 1: If you're Arizona, are you willing to do this? I
Speaker 1: would say no. I know, you know, Kyler Murray's he's having,
Speaker 1: you know, a good start to his career. But if
Speaker 1: we look at what Josh Allen was able to do
Speaker 1: in his you know, first three years, and what Cala
Speaker 1: Murray has been able to do and her, it's it's
Speaker 1: not even comparable. I mean, the guy is Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: I think is a He might be a generational talent.
Speaker 1: He might be up there with the Mahomes when it's
Speaker 1: all said and done. And Kyla Murray is great, and
Speaker 1: what he does, he's great, he's explosive, he's all that
Speaker 1: good stuff. But has he been able to lead a
Speaker 1: team to at least one playoff victory? And he still
Speaker 1: has one, like two years left on his rookie deal,
Speaker 1: right if they pick up the fifth year option. I
Speaker 1: believe he still has like two years left. So you're
Speaker 1: already trying to get paid when you haven't really done
Speaker 1: that much in the National Football League compared to the
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, Like look at josh Aarlin. He's one playoff game.
Speaker 1: This is just this is the nature being quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to get paid early. He's still this is
Speaker 1: what you know. This is the nature of the You
Speaker 1: can't offer him the money now, you can't and they're saying,
Speaker 1: we want the money and if you don't show it
Speaker 1: to me, now you're insulting me. You're making me pay.
Speaker 1: But what you're gonna do, Well, he can hold out
Speaker 1: your third you said going he's going into his fourth.
Speaker 1: They can get him on an option. I would not
Speaker 1: pay him this year, dude. I think he would be
Speaker 1: worth the money. Yes, if he continues to go on
Speaker 1: the path that he is that he's on. Now. We
Speaker 1: saw what Arizona was when he was out out this
Speaker 1: year and then when he got back he was a
Speaker 1: little rusted, but they were still a much better team.
Speaker 1: They were missing DeAndre Hopkins. So I think they have
Speaker 1: the pieces and they need him, But I don't think
Speaker 1: they need to pay him this year. I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it's quite early. Yeah, especially when are you
Speaker 1: thinking MLB, because how when did Josh Did he get
Speaker 1: paid with two years left? Or did he or did
Speaker 1: they um paying with just a year left? I forgive
Speaker 1: which I don't know. I know he got paid early.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is is much different exactly. He's won. He's
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I hear your points about Josh Allen, but
Speaker 1: the agents don't hear it. They just like my guy.
Speaker 1: It's my guy's time. You know, when it was Jared
Speaker 1: Golfstime boom, he was here, Carson Wentz, Tommy, that's just
Speaker 1: kind of how it goes, and Jimmy Garoppolo got I mean,
Speaker 1: it just keeps going. Well, he've been looking at Dank
Speaker 1: Frescott's look at you, look at that. He was once
Speaker 1: again that those were That's why I said the Cowboys
Speaker 1: went through. That was a different way of going about it.
Speaker 1: I don't see Kyler Murray being a patient guy like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw how he wasn't Texas A and
Speaker 1: M when Kevin Subley wouldn't commit to him, and they
Speaker 1: had Kyler Murray and Kyle Allen and both of them
Speaker 1: are like pick one and something like I don't have
Speaker 1: to l M, fine, I'm leaving, and then Allen said
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. Then he was loved for nobody. Then eventually
Speaker 1: he wasn't coaching any man. If this can't tell hibout,
Speaker 1: he gonna leave the NFL the let him go this year,
Speaker 1: this year, next year. You know, if he continued to
Speaker 1: do what he's doing and they actually make up run
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you know, you might have a different conversation.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I need to see a number. What
Speaker 1: is what is? What is the number before? Before I
Speaker 1: say no? Because he's talking a year? Oh yeah, here
Speaker 1: you go, so forty a year hold on playboy. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna sit here. And as he wrapped up, the
Speaker 1: agent is going to look at Josh Allen say I
Speaker 1: want to beat that. So if it's six years two
Speaker 1: fifty eight, this guy's gonna sit up. No, give me
Speaker 1: six years to to to to sixty. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what agents do. You know they're not if if his
Speaker 1: agent doesn't beat the Josh Allen contract, you know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen in the agent game. They're all circling like
Speaker 1: shut good, ain't good? Get right after that? Got inflation
Speaker 1: rising price of TV contract going up, but you can't
Speaker 1: get your guy more. That's that's how that game works.
Speaker 1: Barry Church. Yeah, players last uh, happy black history munk, gentlemen.
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