Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain.
Speaker 2: Where if you thought my birthday celebrations ended yesterday, well
Speaker 2: you thought wrong, way wrong birthday month, bitches.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I celebrate LEO season year round.
Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, August nineteenth, and on today's show, in honor
Speaker 2: of my birthday yesterday, plus Bianca's birthday last week and
Speaker 2: producer Alex's half birthday on the seventeenth, we're skipping the
Speaker 2: need to Know and doing a special Big Citrus Birthday episode.
Speaker 2: We discuss our top highlights from the last year, set
Speaker 2: goals for our next journey around the Sun, and go
Speaker 2: deep on the difference between openness and vulnerability. Plus, I
Speaker 2: give Alex and Bianca a pop quiz and we answer
Speaker 2: your ask us anything questions. Be warned there's a lot
Speaker 2: of charred talk. It's coming up right after this.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody, Alex, Bianca, get in here.
Speaker 3: Hey guys, hello again.
Speaker 2: All right, since Pianca's birthday was just August tenth, my
Speaker 2: birthday is August eighteenth, and Alex's was February seventeenth, which
Speaker 2: is not a LEO birthday and isn't really any time
Speaker 2: near now, but it is Michael Jordan's birthday, and we're
Speaker 2: very close to her half birthday, so we are counting
Speaker 2: this as our special Big Citrus Birthday episode. And we
Speaker 2: thought it might be fun to ask the birthday questions
Speaker 2: that my friends Bama and Drew ask of each other
Speaker 2: and their friends every single year, and then answer some
Speaker 2: birthday questions unrelated to birthdays. We just said, ask us
Speaker 2: anything in celebration of our birthdays.
Speaker 1: From all you slices.
Speaker 2: So I want to start with the three questions that
Speaker 2: my two good friends ask each other and their friends
Speaker 2: at birthday get togethers and dinners every year, which is
Speaker 2: a nice way to look back and look forward. They
Speaker 2: are your top three highlights of the past year. Three
Speaker 2: things you want to do in the next birthday year.
Speaker 2: One thing you would like to redo, either because it's
Speaker 2: a good memory from the year you'd like to do again,
Speaker 2: or a good life us and learned.
Speaker 1: We don't have to do three. We can keep it simple.
Speaker 2: We'll do one or two whatever you know strikes you. So, Bianka,
Speaker 2: I think I know the answer to this one. But
Speaker 2: let's start with you and a top highlight of the
Speaker 2: past year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, big life moment for me in the past year,
Speaker 4: I got engaged.
Speaker 5: It's impossible to say anything other than that, I that
Speaker 5: was a huge highlight.
Speaker 1: Yay, I love that, Alex. What about you?
Speaker 6: Going to the Olympics obviously easily my favorite Olympics that
Speaker 6: I have covered or traveled to, so absolutely a winner.
Speaker 6: My other two are less like singular events, but just
Speaker 6: doing a shit ton of improv with some of my
Speaker 6: favorite people in the world up in New Hampshire. I
Speaker 6: never thought that I would do improv in New Hampshire.
Speaker 6: I didn't think improvit existed in New Hampshire.
Speaker 3: So I just am.
Speaker 6: Thankful every single day, and then finally just doing a
Speaker 6: lot of fun art stuff. I got back into drawing again,
Speaker 6: which has been so fun.
Speaker 3: So those are my three.
Speaker 2: Mine was all so the Olympics because I've never covered
Speaker 2: an Olympics and that was just like the most insane,
Speaker 2: amazing experience and opportunity. So again, thank you Alex for
Speaker 2: suggesting that we cover it and doing all the legwork
Speaker 2: to make.
Speaker 1: Sure it was such an amazing trip.
Speaker 2: The second one is like a little bit more introspective,
Speaker 2: and I would say that ever since we started the show,
Speaker 2: I have loved it so much, but also been clinging
Speaker 2: to this like former identity as ESPN Sarah Spain, which
Speaker 2: is also not helped by the fact that every time
Speaker 2: I do an interview for this show, they still put
Speaker 2: the headline as ESPN Sarah Spain, even though I tell
Speaker 2: them that the show is on Iart and that's my
Speaker 2: main employer now and that's what the article's about.
Speaker 6: Even I got identified as an ESPN reporter Sarah.
Speaker 5: Thank you too.
Speaker 2: You did when we did a story with the AP
Speaker 2: and the photographer came out to snap us on the
Speaker 2: side of a mountain in Italy and then tagged us
Speaker 2: both as ESPN's Sarah Spane and Alex Assi and we
Speaker 2: were like neither but and I loved my time there,
Speaker 2: and I still work with the SBNW and I have
Speaker 2: so many great memories. But it's very hard to let
Speaker 2: go of an identity like that. And this year I
Speaker 2: really stepped into like this is better, you know, like
Speaker 2: this is actually better. Like I feel like I'm doing
Speaker 2: what I should be doing. I feel like I'm covering
Speaker 2: and talking about the things that I'm really passionate about,
Speaker 2: and I'm doing something really meaningful that people want. And
Speaker 2: I can now say like with certainty like this is
Speaker 2: better as opposed to just like, oh I'm figuring it out,
Speaker 2: or like I found something else great or I love both.
Speaker 1: It's like this.
Speaker 2: Actually feels like I'm in this like groove, and a
Speaker 2: lot of it is just that, like the people in
Speaker 2: women's sports and the people I get to hang out
Speaker 2: all the time are people I really respect and respect
Speaker 2: me back, and that like means a lot. Sometimes in
Speaker 2: the men's sports world, it was always swimming upstreaming, trying
Speaker 2: to you know, bug people enough to get them to
Speaker 2: talk about things I cared about or to just not
Speaker 2: be shitty. And this is instead like a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of awesome people working together. And so that was really
Speaker 2: nice this year to be like, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Doing what a should be doing.
Speaker 5: Oh I love that, Sarah for you, that's amazing.
Speaker 3: It's the good place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the good place.
Speaker 2: And it was also many good places I got to
Speaker 2: go to for the show that was like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: how is this like my life? You know, Okay, something
Speaker 2: you want to do in the next birthday year, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start with this one. I have literally a million because,
Speaker 2: as you guys know, I pack a lifetime into like
Speaker 2: a month. I'm like never not doing something. I am
Speaker 2: never relaxing, and I always have a billion things I
Speaker 2: want to do. But in the next birthday year, my
Speaker 2: big one is I would like to go to South
Speaker 2: America for the first time and go to Brazil for
Speaker 2: the Women's World Cup.
Speaker 1: So that is my big one for the next birthday year.
Speaker 3: Speak it into existence.
Speaker 1: That's right, and it's.
Speaker 2: Worked before, so sponsors, friends, listeners, I would like to
Speaker 2: cover the World Cup in Brazil, Alex, what about you.
Speaker 6: I don't know how to differentiate these goals from my
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six bingo card, which guys, I'm.
Speaker 3: Doing real great right now.
Speaker 6: I still haven't made a loaf of bread, but I
Speaker 6: did a late day over the weekend, so I got
Speaker 6: to check that box off, So I'm doing great. So
Speaker 6: I don't know if I want to add to that,
Speaker 6: Like I'm pretty happy, but I'm also worried that now
Speaker 6: I don't sound ambitious enough, Like do you really not
Speaker 6: have any additional goals for the next year's Oh, Alex, No, No.
Speaker 1: That's totally fine.
Speaker 2: I think it depends too on like whether intentions are
Speaker 2: like often do something, do something regularly, or if it's
Speaker 2: like one big thing. So if there is one big
Speaker 2: like Brazil's not my intention for the year, but it's
Speaker 2: what I want to do. But if you don't have
Speaker 2: one of those, I think just continuing to check off
Speaker 2: your Bingo card works.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, oh can't.
Speaker 4: You did an entire Bingo card, so there's a lot
Speaker 4: on there, Like you don't have to have more than
Speaker 4: an entire Bingo card, exactly.
Speaker 1: Bank Good about you, well, Sarah.
Speaker 4: I would love to go to the World Cup as well,
Speaker 4: so see you there maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Now I'm feeling like I need to say it if
Speaker 6: I want to.
Speaker 4: Take it to Brazil as well, exactly, Alex is your
Speaker 4: one and only chance to put it out.
Speaker 1: In the universe.
Speaker 3: I want to go to the World Cup.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 4: We'll replay this hopefully in about eight months from now
Speaker 4: and with tickets in our hands.
Speaker 5: Anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would love to travel more, both for
Speaker 4: the show and personally. I am going to go to
Speaker 4: Mexico for the first time in the next year, which
Speaker 4: I'm very excited about. So yeah, traveling internationally but also
Speaker 4: more locally. I love just you know, going to different
Speaker 4: towns in different local beaches that I haven't been to
Speaker 4: before that are like new to me. It's like, what
Speaker 4: does this main street look like?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 4: Like I love finding stuff out like that and just
Speaker 4: going into little stores and things.
Speaker 5: So just getting out in the world. I love that,
Speaker 5: you know what.
Speaker 6: Bianca is a great way to hold yourself accountable. A
Speaker 6: bingo card.
Speaker 2: I put cute little towns all around Boston on a
Speaker 2: card and then cross them off when you visit them able.
Speaker 2: I will be in Mexico in the next year too,
Speaker 2: something you guys don't know about, but I will be
Speaker 2: going back to that Out of the Blue music festival
Speaker 2: that I went to one time before and we had
Speaker 2: to coordinate our show around me being gone because I
Speaker 2: was scalvanching around Mexico with Mount.
Speaker 1: Joy and Noa Khan, and I will be doing that again.
Speaker 1: So there we go. Just the heads up that you
Speaker 1: might get some extra days off in the new year.
Speaker 1: Right my obsession with live music. Okay, last one.
Speaker 2: One thing you would like to redo, either because it's
Speaker 2: a good memory you'd like to do again, or it
Speaker 2: was a good lesson learned.
Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Alex.
Speaker 6: I think i'd go back to the women's gol Metal
Speaker 6: hockey game at the Olympics, and I said this on
Speaker 6: the show at the time, but we did two laps
Speaker 6: around the arena before the game and it was just
Speaker 6: so cool to feel the energy in that building, so
Speaker 6: many Canadian fans, American fans, everyone in their jerseys. There
Speaker 6: are certain things where it's like you want to live
Speaker 6: in the moment for just a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: M I love that Bianca.
Speaker 4: I would relive so many things over the past year,
Speaker 4: which feels great to say. It's it was a really
Speaker 4: good year for me personally and professionally. One thing that
Speaker 4: I did that was new that I want to keep
Speaker 4: doing was just being bad at new things like and
Speaker 4: not letting that be a reason to turn away and
Speaker 4: even like leaning into that because it's fun to learn
Speaker 4: new things, and what a great place to start being
Speaker 4: bad at something like that. That's a perfect place to start.
Speaker 4: So I definitely want to keep doing that. A specific
Speaker 4: thing that I would want to relive.
Speaker 5: Because it was so good.
Speaker 4: For Thanksgiving last year, me and my partner went to
Speaker 4: like a beach just in New England. It was like
Speaker 4: off season, not a lot of people around coastal, small town,
Speaker 4: you know, super cute and it was just so relaxing,
Speaker 4: and it was the best things ge I've had in
Speaker 4: a long time.
Speaker 5: And that's how I want to spend Thanksgiving every year.
Speaker 6: Before we move on, Bianca, I want to go back
Speaker 6: to you being bad at new things, because I have.
Speaker 3: Proof that Bianca is doing this.
Speaker 6: When we were at WNBA All Star, she told me
Speaker 6: that despite not playing basketball since eighth grade, she goes
Speaker 6: out and shoots hoops regularly.
Speaker 4: Cute, I do, I do, And we we got on
Speaker 4: this topic because I was like, wow, we were at
Speaker 4: the three point contest and I was like, it is
Speaker 4: crazy how many three pointers they're making in ninety seconds
Speaker 4: or whatever it is. Because when I leave the court,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I have to make ten free throws.
Speaker 5: That's like my final thing that I do.
Speaker 4: And the amount of time that it takes me compared
Speaker 4: to the three point contest.
Speaker 1: Just that's amazing.
Speaker 6: I did like an audio version of a double take
Speaker 6: when Bianca said that, because I think I was like,
Speaker 6: you mean when you were young and you were taking
Speaker 6: free throws and she's.
Speaker 3: Like, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 6: When I'm like at the park by myself taking free
Speaker 6: throws to the summer.
Speaker 2: Cute that I really really am into I did a
Speaker 2: whole episode of my old podcast about adults trying new
Speaker 2: things and being bad at them and understanding that accepting
Speaker 2: only things you're proficient at is a really easy way
Speaker 2: to close the door on new experiences and things that you.
Speaker 1: Might fall in love with. So I love that. I too.
Speaker 1: When I thought about this, there's like eight bajillion things
Speaker 1: this year that I would redo.
Speaker 2: It's been out of control, insane, so awesome and joyful.
Speaker 2: So I went with the lesson learned because I had
Speaker 2: this life epiphany this year. And this is going to
Speaker 2: sound very dorky, but this is sort of like a
Speaker 2: window into the things I really like doing. I really
Speaker 2: like having very deep, meaningful conversations with people, Like at
Speaker 2: the end of the night in your twenties, when half
Speaker 2: the room is passed out and there's like two people
Speaker 2: left and we're like getting into it.
Speaker 1: That's like I love that.
Speaker 2: And so when I went Unrivaled in Philly, Colaine, who's
Speaker 2: mentioned often on the show Super Slice, Colaen told me, like,
Speaker 2: you want to crash in our airbnb, we have extra room.
Speaker 2: Just to let you know, my friends and I are
Speaker 2: taking a couple hours the day after the game to
Speaker 2: redo one of my work retreat activities in an individual
Speaker 2: way instead of in a corporate way, to get to
Speaker 2: the heart of what's going on in our lives and
Speaker 2: careers right now, if you want to do that, And I.
Speaker 1: Was like, that sounds fucking awesome, And so.
Speaker 2: Klaane literally had mapped out three different, like really thought
Speaker 2: provoking activities using like cards of like the things that
Speaker 2: are most meaningful to you and the goals and all
Speaker 2: this other stuff. And during that conversation around that, I
Speaker 2: realized this thing that I have tried to wrestle with
Speaker 2: for a really long time, where I always thought I
Speaker 2: was vulnerable, But it turns out I'm open and vulnerable
Speaker 2: and open are very different things. Open is I've already
Speaker 2: decided how I feel about something. I'm in control of
Speaker 2: how I react and respond to it and feel about it,
Speaker 2: and then I'll tell you anything about it. And vulnerable
Speaker 2: is I haven't yet figured out all those things, and
Speaker 2: I'm still willing to tell you about it. And it
Speaker 2: turns out I am not vulnerable, and I am working
Speaker 2: on it and it's a lifelong goal. I have like
Speaker 2: control issues around you know, emotions or weakness, I hate
Speaker 2: when people feel sad for me or pity or worry
Speaker 2: about me, or in any way feeling anything other than
Speaker 2: like joy, and like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just want to be in control of.
Speaker 2: Things so that I don't give bad vibes to anyone
Speaker 2: or make them sad or make them feel sad for me.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I need to be willing to like be
Speaker 2: taken care of or like let people in if I'm
Speaker 2: not feeling great before I have it all figured out.
Speaker 2: But I was always like, I'm super vulnerable. I'll talk
Speaker 2: about anything, and I realized I only do that when
Speaker 2: I I've already decided how I feel about it and
Speaker 2: how my emotions will be when I talk about it.
Speaker 6: So can I ask a clarification question on your vulnerability? Yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm curious when you talk about like the things that
Speaker 6: you don't have figured out. Are you talking about like
Speaker 6: your opinion or your thoughts on something versus like your
Speaker 6: ability to do something?
Speaker 1: No, it's like emotional.
Speaker 2: So like when I was making the transition from full
Speaker 2: time at ESPN and it was like totally unexpected, and
Speaker 2: the one dude was like, we're just not going to
Speaker 2: renew you two weeks notice after thirteen years, Like, I
Speaker 2: did not want anyone to feel bad for me. I
Speaker 2: didn't want to feel pitied. I didn't want to get
Speaker 2: emotional about it. I wanted to figure out what my
Speaker 2: next step was, how I was going to can crush
Speaker 2: it and show him he was.
Speaker 1: Wrong, and then I was willing to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Or like I had a pair of friends who asked
Speaker 2: me to officiate their wedding and I almost started crying,
Speaker 2: and I like, hit it, which is dumb, Like why
Speaker 2: wouldn't I just like make them realize how much it
Speaker 2: meant to me that they asked me to do that.
Speaker 2: But I didn't expect to cry. So then I was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: I didn't choose this. I'm in control of you emotions.
Speaker 2: And so it's more like that, like when I respond
Speaker 2: unexpectedly or have an emotion that I haven't decided to feel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think it's really interesting. I love this
Speaker 6: epiphany of yours because I think about the types of
Speaker 6: stories that we love as humankind, and it's like the
Speaker 6: stories of people running into an obstacle and overcoming it.
Speaker 6: But so often those stories are presented in the rear
Speaker 6: view mirror, where it's like this thing that happened to me,
Speaker 6: and so by the time that they're telling it and
Speaker 6: you're hearing it, it's all been figured out. And so
Speaker 6: to be able to share it in the moment when
Speaker 6: the things aren't figured out, I think is a really
Speaker 6: interesting idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I suck at that. I'm really bad, really bad.
Speaker 2: I have to wait till everything looks sunny again, and
Speaker 2: then I'm like, oh, let me tell.
Speaker 1: You about this bad time. But don't worry, everything's great now.
Speaker 4: I definitely have friends like that, where they'll you know,
Speaker 4: come to me and it's like this has been happening
Speaker 4: over the past two months, and now it's like this.
Speaker 4: I'm like, why weren't we talking five weeks ago? But
Speaker 4: I've never thought of that, the difference between open and vulnerable.
Speaker 2: So well, I figured I would share it in case
Speaker 2: it helps anyone else with an epiphany.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it will for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, now that this is a therapy session, which, as
Speaker 2: it turns out I just shared, is my best kind.
Speaker 1: Of birthday party.
Speaker 2: It's just a real deep, thoughtful conversation that everyone else
Speaker 2: wants to leave and go drink.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, and when we come back we'll
Speaker 1: do some questions from use license.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to our big Citrus Birthday extravaganza. Let's turn
Speaker 2: this boat back in the right direction. Maybe some joyful questions,
Speaker 2: maybe some funny questions, maybe some silly questions. First comes
Speaker 2: from Amanda Valo, super Slice, who I was so close
Speaker 2: to getting to meet in Denver when I was there,
Speaker 2: and then because I was on vacation and trying not
Speaker 2: to overplan, we ran out of time. So Amanda, I
Speaker 2: promise I'm coming out for a Denver Summit game and
Speaker 2: we will meet in person. So here's Amanda's question.
Speaker 7: Jeka, I understand that you are in Ohio University bobcat
Speaker 7: a school known for its Halloween, epic Halloween celebrations. So
Speaker 7: my question is if you were to go to say
Speaker 7: Fletch Navidad Trashy Christmas, what costume would you wear?
Speaker 2: So, first of all, I had no idea that Ohio
Speaker 2: University was known for Halloween celebrations.
Speaker 1: That's super fun and oh ye jealous of that?
Speaker 3: Tell us more.
Speaker 4: Well, there's only so much that I will share. But
Speaker 4: this question did have me going back in time and
Speaker 4: thinking of my Halloween costumes from college.
Speaker 5: And there were a couple of good ones, couple not
Speaker 5: so good ones.
Speaker 1: Name a good one.
Speaker 5: All Right.
Speaker 4: It's kind of cringe because I was a journalism student,
Speaker 4: and I guess that was a really big part of
Speaker 4: my identity. I mean it still is, but I was
Speaker 4: bad news, so I like made a little dingup out
Speaker 4: of newspaper and then dressed up otherwise. I guess what
Speaker 4: I determined to be quote unquote bad, which basically meant
Speaker 4: like black leather.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh like bad, like bad to the bone.
Speaker 5: Yes, like bad to the bone, but news.
Speaker 2: Love that My sister was once holy shit and she
Speaker 2: was all brown and had a halo, so that was sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 2: She wants to know what you'd be at Fletch Navydad,
Speaker 2: she said, trashy. There was one year that was that
Speaker 2: my husband I A dressed as like trashy Christmas. But
Speaker 2: let's just go big picture Christmas costume you would wear
Speaker 2: if you came to my Fletch Navy DoD dog birthday
Speaker 2: slash Christmas party.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so my favorite part of Christmas, kind of what
Speaker 4: you were just talking about, Sarah, is like sitting around
Speaker 4: talking to family, and usually at our Christmases, that's sitting
Speaker 4: right by the fire, so I would come as fire
Speaker 4: because that.
Speaker 5: Is the best U lost for me. Yes, a yule log, Yes, amazing.
Speaker 1: I love that. Amanda had a question for me too.
Speaker 7: Who are your top three Saturday Night Live cast members
Speaker 7: of all times? And can you I know you can
Speaker 7: do the splits, but can you do the Sally O'Malley
Speaker 7: leg kick?
Speaker 1: Amanda?
Speaker 2: That's a mean question. It is so hard to whittle
Speaker 2: it down to three. So I'm going to go top
Speaker 2: of my head because otherwise I will be here for years.
Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy is always my number one, and in fact,
Speaker 2: if you go back into the history books, Eddie Murphy
Speaker 2: saved the show.
Speaker 1: It was going to get pulled off the air. He
Speaker 1: came on and it was Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 2: Best of saited at Live was the thing I watched
Speaker 2: over and over and over again as a child, very
Speaker 2: deeply inappropriately.
Speaker 1: But that's why I am me.
Speaker 2: Amy Poehler improv legend just incredible. And then I gotta
Speaker 2: go Kate McKinnon because for people who just make me
Speaker 2: lie snort out the nose, just the alien schedulelone would
Speaker 2: be enough.
Speaker 1: There's so many. I mean, Will Farrell, I mean then
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say those three, even though there's like
Speaker 2: eight million other answers I could give.
Speaker 1: Can I do this Salio Maley leg kick? Obviously?
Speaker 2: In fact, a couple of years ago, my husband and I,
Speaker 2: speaking of costumes, were Alan and Weird Barbie, and if
Speaker 2: you remember, Kate McKinnon as Weird Barbie would put her
Speaker 2: leg over her head and I can do that. I
Speaker 2: can just like hold my leg up over my head
Speaker 2: with my arm. So we did that in all the
Speaker 2: photos and Brad awkwardly stood like allan, So yes, the
Speaker 2: answer is yes, high kicks, rockets.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad to hear you say Kate MacKinnon because
Speaker 4: I am a big mckinn fan, and.
Speaker 5: I do feel like she gets left out of a
Speaker 5: lot of people's.
Speaker 2: Top threes' Just incredible. I mean Kristen wigg too.
Speaker 1: That's enough.
Speaker 5: No, we're done. I know we're done.
Speaker 1: But I did get to meet Kate McKinnon at the
Speaker 1: S and L after party. I went too, since Dallas,
Speaker 1: me too, me too.
Speaker 2: And after Amanda left that message, she actually called back
Speaker 2: with one last question she.
Speaker 8: Thought of, if you get the interview with Michael Jordan
Speaker 8: or when you get the interview with Michael Jordan, what
Speaker 8: is one of the big questions that you want to
Speaker 8: ask him?
Speaker 2: So it's weird that I've talked about how much I
Speaker 2: would like to interview him, and I haven't actually sat
Speaker 2: down and thought about what I would ask him. It's
Speaker 2: just more that I think he hasn't been excavated the
Speaker 2: way that someone of his quality and historical presence should be.
Speaker 2: But the thing that immediately comes to mind, because this
Speaker 2: is something I talk about a lot about him, is
Speaker 2: how do you reconcile the fact that the thing that
Speaker 2: made you so good at what you do for a
Speaker 2: living might not be a thing that makes you happy
Speaker 2: when you're done with that work. Because his relentless competitiveness
Speaker 2: drove him so hard, but he can't seem to find
Speaker 2: an outlet that scratches that. It's the same way post retirement.
Speaker 2: And I think that's a really big challenge for all athletes,
Speaker 2: but especially so if that's what really drove him throughout.
Speaker 2: And I remember hearing Max Kellerman on my friend Dan
Speaker 2: Levittard's show once say, like for first take, it was
Speaker 2: like a three hour show, so they had to like
Speaker 2: just talk talk, talk, talk, talk and then he would
Speaker 2: get home to dinner with his wife and that would
Speaker 2: be how he would be, and he'd realized, like that
Speaker 2: that skill set is not a skill set he should
Speaker 2: take home. And I think about that sometimes too, Like
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just like, oh, my job as a journalist
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's always fun for everyone else.
Speaker 1: When I'm like and then what and did you do this? Wait?
Speaker 2: Let me clarify that, Like, and it's just the way
Speaker 2: my brain works. I just like want to know that
Speaker 2: or ask follow up.
Speaker 1: And sometimes people are like, just hang.
Speaker 2: Out, you know, So I'd be like, Michael is that
Speaker 2: problem but writ very very very large, and I would
Speaker 2: like to talk to him about how he handles that.
Speaker 2: I like that, all right, Sean Quinn, who is another
Speaker 2: super slice that I have a question for.
Speaker 1: Sarah.
Speaker 2: I loved reading Runs in the Family. Do you think
Speaker 2: you'll write another book? Thank you Runs in the Family.
Speaker 2: You can purchase it online or at your favorite bookstore.
Speaker 2: That is the book I wrote. I would yes, I
Speaker 2: think almost certainly I will write more books in my lifetime.
Speaker 2: I have one that's like my own little life story book,
Speaker 2: like Vignettess, the way that Amy Pohler and Tina Fey
Speaker 2: and Mindy Kaling's books are where each chapter is like
Speaker 2: a little chunk of something, So that's in me somewhere.
Speaker 2: And I do think, especially later in life, when I
Speaker 2: slow down and I live on my hobby farm with
Speaker 2: all of my animals, I will try to just be
Speaker 2: a author of books for a living so I can
Speaker 2: spend more time in nature and hanging out with the
Speaker 2: animals and less time reading the news or being on
Speaker 2: the internet in any way.
Speaker 1: But I don't have a book on the docket right now,
Speaker 1: but I will absolutely have another one a tease.
Speaker 2: Yes, feel free to submit you know what you want
Speaker 2: me to write about, if you've got a story, happy
Speaker 2: to hear.
Speaker 6: I just remember when we started the show, Sarah, you
Speaker 6: were still in the middle of working on your book,
Speaker 6: but producer Mesh and I at the time, like didn't
Speaker 6: actually know what you were writing about, and I think
Speaker 6: I maybe assumed it was women's sports, and then I
Speaker 6: found out it was about men and men's sports and
Speaker 6: football and family, and I remember being like, okay, like
Speaker 6: like surely, like fascinating story.
Speaker 5: But like.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we do have to write about men too. We
Speaker 1: don't have to. Sometimes we choose to when the story
Speaker 1: is really good.
Speaker 3: The story has to be really good, which your book is.
Speaker 1: Thank you. We got another voicemail. This one is from
Speaker 1: Sarah in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 9: What's up, good game? This is Sarah from Salt Lake City,
Speaker 9: home of the Champion Utah Talents, and I have a
Speaker 9: question for the question show, and it is this Sarah's name.
Speaker 9: If you woke up tomorrow and you were able to
Speaker 9: have a singing voice of one of these three artists,
Speaker 9: which one would you pick? First option Taylor Swift, Second
Speaker 9: option Brandy Carlisle. Third option Brittany Howard. I would love
Speaker 9: to know which one you'd like. I want to throw
Speaker 9: a Dave Matthews in there, but like, I don't know.
Speaker 9: If you feel like you'd like to have Dave Matthews
Speaker 9: singing voice when you wake up, that one works too.
Speaker 9: That's an alternative option. But what artist would you want
Speaker 9: to inherit the voice of when you.
Speaker 1: Wake up tomorrow?
Speaker 9: Thanks for everything you guys do.
Speaker 1: Cheers Sarah. This is a great question.
Speaker 2: I do not want to wake up with Dave Matthews
Speaker 2: singing voice, unless it's because he's lying next to me
Speaker 2: in bed singing to me.
Speaker 5: And that is a.
Speaker 1: CMI, but I love Dave Matthews And I just.
Speaker 2: Reposted this meme that this comedian woman did of like
Speaker 2: celebrities you'd be surprised to find will blow your back out,
Speaker 2: and it was about Dave Matthews, and I was like,
Speaker 2: only surprising for you, honey.
Speaker 1: Ever since I first saw dance live.
Speaker 2: In like nineteen ninety nine, I've been I've been no
Speaker 2: one anyway. I would this is a birthday, we're just
Speaker 2: sharing things about ourselves.
Speaker 1: I would pick Brandy Carlyle.
Speaker 2: I mean, Taylor swid is one of the greatest songwriters
Speaker 2: of all time. She's not known for like her vocal dexterity,
Speaker 2: even though it's obviously incredible. Brittany Howard's voice is.
Speaker 1: Like an instrument.
Speaker 2: She can truly choose how to use it, as if
Speaker 2: it's different parts of an orchestra, and it's incredible and powerful.
Speaker 2: But man, when Brandy Carlyle decides to let it rip,
Speaker 2: that roar that she has and that break in her
Speaker 2: voice that she uses with intention is like it like
Speaker 2: breaks you open when you hear it. And I love
Speaker 2: her so much and my husband is taking me to
Speaker 2: see her for my birthday, so that is a good
Speaker 2: tea up that I would I mean, anybody in the
Speaker 2: world to be Whitney Houston obviously is the greatest voice
Speaker 2: of all time, but Brandy Carlyle would be pretty amazing. Also,
Speaker 2: I want you to know how insufferable I would be
Speaker 2: if I sounded like Brandy Carlyle. I would be singing
Speaker 2: the entire show, like I would never talk.
Speaker 1: So it's a good thing for the world.
Speaker 5: So you'd be a singer.
Speaker 2: If I could do anything in life, I would be
Speaker 2: a singer. Really, even more than Saturday Night Live. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh god. I love music so much, and I used
Speaker 2: to sing never like Brandy Carlyle. And then I had
Speaker 2: surgery on my vocal cords and I had to stop.
Speaker 2: I was like training an opera and ship, which I
Speaker 2: didn't want to do opera. I wanted to do either
Speaker 2: Broadway or like indie stuff. And then I wasn't probably
Speaker 2: good enough anyway. But it just makes me sad now
Speaker 2: when I want to sing, and I have very limited
Speaker 2: range because my vocal notes came back like within.
Speaker 1: A year of the surgery.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And that's why I sound like a phone sex operator.
Speaker 6: I can't believe that we are five hundred and twenty
Speaker 6: episodes in and I am just now learning that your
Speaker 6: greatest aspiration in life was to be.
Speaker 1: A singer that in Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 2: But I would have used my singing on Saturday Night
Speaker 2: Live like in the sketches, I would have been all
Speaker 2: the different musical.
Speaker 6: Characters before I moved too far past.
Speaker 3: Dave Matthews.
Speaker 6: I just have to say my Dave Matthew's dream is
Speaker 6: for Ben and Jerry's to bring his ice cream flavor back,
Speaker 6: because it is the best ice cream flavor of all time,
Speaker 6: hands down.
Speaker 5: Wait tell me about it.
Speaker 6: It was black raspberry ice cream swirled with sweet cream
Speaker 6: ice cream and fudgy brownies.
Speaker 3: It was so good. I remember in.
Speaker 6: Seventh grade I would go and I would get a
Speaker 6: pint of it, and I hated seventh grade.
Speaker 3: But Dave Matthew's magic brownies made it all better.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: My favorite used to be Bovinity Divinity, and they got
Speaker 2: rid of that, and it was like milk chocolate with
Speaker 2: dark cows in it, and then like light dark trunckle
Speaker 2: with light cows or something. Anyway, Dave Matthews gives us
Speaker 2: so much. Speaking of music, Doug Ratcliffe and other Super
Speaker 2: Slice had a couple questions for US perfect Music Festival
Speaker 2: weekend headliner lineup. Let's assume it was a three day festival,
Speaker 2: so your Friday, Saturday, Sunday headliners.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you that some.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker made an AI fest that was entirely fake, and
Speaker 2: I swear to god, they were in my brain.
Speaker 1: I sent it to my friend and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is crazy, this is so awesome.
Speaker 2: It's like, that's not real, and I'm like, but how
Speaker 2: did they get in my brain?
Speaker 1: And it was Noah Cohn.
Speaker 2: Lumineers and Mumford and Sons, and then it had like
Speaker 2: Camp and Gregory All and Isaacov and Mountjoy and like
Speaker 2: all these other bands.
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift would be in there.
Speaker 2: Dave Matthews, I mean, it's too hard, it's honestly, Doug,
Speaker 2: that's an unfair question.
Speaker 1: It's almost harder than the SNL question.
Speaker 2: So I've just named a handful of them. Do y'all
Speaker 2: have ones that popped to mind?
Speaker 4: Well, mine are so different from each other, Like if
Speaker 4: I think about my three favorite artists, they're so different.
Speaker 5: They're such different genres.
Speaker 4: Like I love Little Sims who's a British rapper.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love Rufus Wainwright, who's like an opera and pop
Speaker 4: and singer songwriter. I love Lake Street Dive, who has
Speaker 4: a bit of a jazzy feel.
Speaker 1: I've seen them a couple of times.
Speaker 5: Great live, yeah, really good live. I love a banjo okay.
Speaker 1: Well blue grass.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it would be a strange music festival, but
Speaker 4: it would be great.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 6: I actually loved your lineup, Sarah. So I would be
Speaker 6: at that festival. Okay, great, you could get a ticket,
Speaker 6: you know. I would say Momford and Sons would probably
Speaker 6: definitely be in my top three, along with the National,
Speaker 6: and then I would I've never seen Taylor Swift, so
Speaker 6: I would just like to see Taylor Swift and to
Speaker 6: like be part of that community. Yes, not that I
Speaker 6: necessarily always. I don't want to like have stolen valor
Speaker 6: of being a Swift ye I'm not, But I just
Speaker 6: want to be part of it.
Speaker 3: For a day.
Speaker 2: It's incredible to be a part of I did tea
Speaker 2: up today's show as ask me anything and ask bank
Speaker 2: anything because it's our Leo birthdays and so Doug also
Speaker 2: had a question for you, Banko what's your favorite hobby
Speaker 2: or hobbies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I love gardening in the summer. I love,
Speaker 4: like I was talking about earlier, going to little towns
Speaker 4: near me that are new to me and just seeing
Speaker 4: what their main streets about.
Speaker 5: I love to cook. I love to run or go
Speaker 5: on a bike ride.
Speaker 4: I mean really just like slow process things like you know.
Speaker 1: Simple pleasures.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't even during a lot.
Speaker 4: Of these hobbies, I don't even put on a podcast
Speaker 4: or music every single time because it's just like I
Speaker 4: just want my hands to be in the dirt, you know,
Speaker 4: I just want to be thinking about this one weed
Speaker 4: that's in front of me, and that's it.
Speaker 5: Just kind of things that helped me unplug.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's great.
Speaker 2: Speaking of gardening, Marcus Sisson had some questions for you,
Speaker 2: because when I posted the first request for Amaba, it
Speaker 2: was you holding these giant charred stocks, and I think
Speaker 2: it inspired some thoughts. Let's just start with which athlete
Speaker 2: represents the vegetable you're holding in that photo.
Speaker 4: Right, And the vegetable in the photo was rainbow chart
Speaker 4: and I have to come clean that that was my
Speaker 4: garden neighbor who grew that rainbow Chard, So shout out
Speaker 4: to Sylvia.
Speaker 3: But none of us would have known if you had
Speaker 3: taken credit for.
Speaker 1: More stole Impeller. You're a charty.
Speaker 4: I'm always honest, but I was thinking, you know, it's
Speaker 4: just an exceptionally healthy food rainbow chart, and so in
Speaker 4: honor of that, I'm gonna go with Nifisa Collier because damn,
Speaker 4: now that she's back and healthy.
Speaker 1: Is she playing well?
Speaker 4: But I could also do any gay player because of
Speaker 4: the rainbow.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say rapino homes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: And then somebody also asked about favorite use for that
Speaker 2: beautiful chart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And somebody also specifically asked if I slice up
Speaker 4: the charred stocks, and so I'll tell you them with
Speaker 4: the onion and garlic for about ten minutes before you
Speaker 4: put the leaves in.
Speaker 5: Anything. Yeah, that is a great method. I have done that.
Speaker 4: And then if you're making soup, you know you put
Speaker 4: the stocks in before the leaves as well. I don't
Speaker 4: have a specific charred recipe, but I would just direct
Speaker 4: you to Hetty Lou McKinnon, who is my favorite just
Speaker 4: about you know, my favorite cookbook author and chef of
Speaker 4: all time, but particularly for vegetables.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like a fortata. I make a forritata with
Speaker 2: my husband's homegrown chart. And also there's a couple of
Speaker 2: good chickpea charred pasta recipes that I make with some
Speaker 2: Swiss chard. All right, now that we've concluded our gardening podcast,
Speaker 2: we're going to take one last break and one come back.
Speaker 2: Our good game play at the day is a surprise
Speaker 2: question for Bianca and Alix, inspired by someone we have
Speaker 2: already mentioned during this Q and A session.
Speaker 3: Kate McKinnon.
Speaker 10: Is she coming on to say, Hi, welcome back Slices.
Speaker 2: We always love that you're listening, but we want you
Speaker 2: to get in the game every day too.
Speaker 1: So here's our good game play of the day.
Speaker 2: And today I'm turning the tables on the other two
Speaker 2: members of Big Citrus and giving them a little slice work.
Speaker 1: It's immediate, it's a pop quiz. Your slice work will be.
Speaker 5: Handed in right now.
Speaker 2: I was listening to Megan or Pina's new podcast Why
Speaker 2: Are You Like This? And I was just noodling over
Speaker 2: that question, and I think it's so funny because you
Speaker 2: can take it seriously. You can be super introspective, you
Speaker 2: can mean like what or I know exactly what you
Speaker 2: mean when you ask why are you like this? And
Speaker 2: so my question for you is in basically a sentence
Speaker 2: or less. It could be three words, it could be
Speaker 2: one sentence, It could be separated by a couple of commas,
Speaker 2: because there's a few reasons.
Speaker 1: But why are you like this? Bianca?
Speaker 4: The first thing that comes to mind is four words,
Speaker 4: because I'm a journalist, like Sarah when you were talking
Speaker 4: earlier about asking follow up questions and listening to friends
Speaker 4: and just you know, getting to the bottom of it,
Speaker 4: like I am very much that way with my friends too.
Speaker 4: I love to just sit down and hear everything that's
Speaker 4: going on and ask about the aunt of the friend,
Speaker 4: of the sister of the cousin, you know, like people
Speaker 4: who I have no business really caring about or knowing about.
Speaker 5: But I'm always asking questions.
Speaker 4: And similar to you too, I have learned, you know what,
Speaker 4: sometimes roll it back Hillier, stop press those But that's
Speaker 4: that's the first thing that comes to mind, Alex, why are.
Speaker 1: You like this?
Speaker 6: I feel like if I'm trying to sum up both
Speaker 6: my work personality and my friendship personality and my hobby personality,
Speaker 6: it all comes back to.
Speaker 3: How and why things happen.
Speaker 6: Like I love just being able to like chase down
Speaker 6: a rabbit hole and see things connected. And yeah, I
Speaker 6: think that goes from my hobbies too, of like trying
Speaker 6: to get to like the very beginning of whatever I'm
Speaker 6: doing and to be able to immerse myself in it.
Speaker 3: And I feel the same way about women's sports too.
Speaker 4: Oh that's I love that answer, Alex, because that's I
Speaker 4: totally see that for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, mine is a little bit more comprehensive. When I
Speaker 2: was thinking about asking you guys this question, I was like,
Speaker 2: what would my answer be? But it does start the same,
Speaker 2: which is had more time to think about it. I
Speaker 2: did have a little more time, but yes, because I'm
Speaker 2: the professor, so it's not a pop quiz for me
Speaker 2: to prep for it. The first part is the same
Speaker 2: as yours, which is like curious and like curiosity drives
Speaker 2: like all of it, and gratitude. So curiosity and gratitude
Speaker 2: are like the foundation of who I am. But why
Speaker 2: am I like this is because of that. And then
Speaker 2: my parents are lawyers. I was too tall and too
Speaker 2: awkward when I was young, so I had to be funny.
Speaker 2: And I think that I might have traces of cocaine
Speaker 2: in my bloodstream.
Speaker 3: More details, more details.
Speaker 2: That is the answer for what I said earlier about
Speaker 2: packing an entire year into a month, Like I don't
Speaker 2: really have to rest, I don't have to recharge. I
Speaker 2: am always up for anything. I talk a lot and
Speaker 2: think I'm awesome.
Speaker 1: Cocaine.
Speaker 2: I just like my like my friend's parents literally will
Speaker 2: be like we are on Sarah's Instagram.
Speaker 1: Like does she do drugs?
Speaker 5: How does she do it?
Speaker 1: Like just do you ever get tired? When does she sleep?
Speaker 1: Does she stay home?
Speaker 2: And my friends are like, she literally has never done
Speaker 2: any drugs. She like has cocaine in her bloodstream. So yeah,
Speaker 2: my parents are lawyers. I had to be funny because
Speaker 2: I was tall and awkward. I'm grateful and curious and
Speaker 2: I probably have traces of cocaine in my bloodstream and
Speaker 2: that I'm like this, Well.
Speaker 4: I know we're at the end of our conversation, but
Speaker 4: thanks so much, Sarah, because now I'm going to go
Speaker 4: psychoanalyze why am I the way I am for the
Speaker 4: next three hours.
Speaker 5: Me too.
Speaker 6: I actually started thinking back to an experience I had
Speaker 6: when I was a kid where I walked into the
Speaker 6: University of New Hampshire Athletic Facility, and they had the
Speaker 6: Patty Kasmia Award for the Women's Hockey Player of the
Speaker 6: Year next to the Hoby Baker for the men's Hockey
Speaker 6: Player of the Year, and the Hoby Baker is so
Speaker 6: much bigger than Patti Kasmeyer, and I'm like, that's why
Speaker 6: I'm like.
Speaker 2: This, that's why like this there you go, yes, story, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: or me being like when I was eight, like, well,
Speaker 2: there isn't a woman president by the time I'm old enough,
Speaker 2: I guess I'll just do it. Not interested, but that
Speaker 2: seems like that would beckd up, so I'll sign up
Speaker 2: for it, which I haven't.
Speaker 6: Okay At Sarah Spain twenty h I think you're a
Speaker 6: little bit late to us our.
Speaker 2: Forty something years to be prime president age. Absolutely sadly,
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