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Speaker 1: Welcome to OTV eleven. Mike Keith Baby, Well, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you going to be here special guest right across

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Speaker 1: from us. I'm very excited about this one. Michael Griffin.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Michael Griffin. Thank you all for having me. The retirement.

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Speaker 1: I can't see. It's so hard for me to believe

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Speaker 1: you're retiring. I remember the day you were drafted. And

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to sound like you know a parent

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Speaker 1: or your uncle. If you see these grays, you see it,

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Speaker 1: I know, but it's it's so weird. Yes, I know,

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Speaker 1: but it is so strange. But you come back and

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Speaker 1: this has really been a great day. It's great to

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Speaker 1: have you back in the building and wonderful to think

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Speaker 1: about all the memories. Why was this so important to

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Speaker 1: you to come back and do this? Miss Where's all started?

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Speaker 1: You know? The um the Adam's family that gave me

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Speaker 1: an opportunity, you know, and bless me. And I'm able

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Speaker 1: to bless to be blessing and have a family that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it has a different life than I had him.

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Speaker 1: I had a great life growing up. But to be

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Speaker 1: able to continue to be successful as if my mom

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Speaker 1: and my dad and my brother are right now, so um,

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Speaker 1: and put my kids and my family in the best

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Speaker 1: situation as possible. So um. And at the same time,

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Speaker 1: when I left, I always felt like I was a

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titan, even when you know, my little small when

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Speaker 1: I was with the Vikings, when I was with the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, great organizations and none against them. But I still,

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Speaker 1: you know, even when I was done there, you know,

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Speaker 1: I still was, you know, felt like a Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: Still never missed a game, watched all their games. I

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Speaker 1: was always tuned in when the Titans were playing. What

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Speaker 1: was it important to you from a personal standpoint to

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Speaker 1: kind of move on with life as a non player,

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Speaker 1: to take this step? Yes, yes, I mean of course, Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean I I you know, last year, you know,

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Speaker 1: I still worked out the entire season, and it came

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Speaker 1: a point when I was like, you know what, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty much it's done. It's over with. And the one

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Speaker 1: thing I asked was, you know, I really want to

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Speaker 1: retire tight That was the main thing. And um, you know,

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Speaker 1: the opportunity presented itself, and of course I took it.

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Speaker 1: So um. It's something that I always wanted to do. Um,

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Speaker 1: even when I first got drafted. It was like, whatever happens,

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Speaker 1: I want to be with one team. I want to

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Speaker 1: stay with that team and retire with that team. And

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Speaker 1: it didn't work the way I wanted to plan I

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Speaker 1: planned out to be, but it worked out in the end.

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Speaker 1: So that's what's most important. I know you've been busy

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Speaker 1: today specifically, but have you taken a moment walking through

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Speaker 1: the building to get a little nostalgic and remember some

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Speaker 1: of your greatest moments, you know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 1: so it's so different now. Um, this building is nice,

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Speaker 1: you know, Um, not not take away when I was

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Speaker 1: here playing and whatnot, but I mean this is looking

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Speaker 1: the training room, the weight room, the new bubble um,

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Speaker 1: the locker room. Um, the new uniforms. Of course, I

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Speaker 1: mean I think of anything. I'm like, damn mister. But again,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's things around here. It looks

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Speaker 1: so different than when I was here, especially and as

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of says your age when you look

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Speaker 1: at it. New tenure going on right now, new head coach. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, a coach that I played against earlier in

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Speaker 1: my career. Also, so um, I mean you to see

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Speaker 1: that the things they did in the last two years. UM,

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Speaker 1: I commend you know, John Robinson what he's done around here.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's he's put this team together. You know,

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Speaker 1: you look at the funny. I mean he released me,

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Speaker 1: but then he ended up finding Kevin. But you know,

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Speaker 1: he found a diamond and the rough. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: has a great young safety with a lot of talent

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Speaker 1: in the ceiling. I don't think there's a ceiling for him. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think he has an opportunity to be one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the league. Um. And in the course,

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Speaker 1: I'm cheering them on, you know, anything for the times,

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Speaker 1: anything allows his team to win. Him and any of course,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, separate from John the sippring.

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Speaker 1: He's a good safety also, so um in the secondary

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Speaker 1: at those you know, Dorry Jackson, UM, Malcolm Butler, the

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Speaker 1: probably missing a couple of them, but again, I mean

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Speaker 1: safety that they just drafted. Um. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: try to pronounce his name because somebody else sank. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to pronounce. I'm just gonna say Shank,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I said

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Speaker 1: Shank Redempson, I'm saying that on purpose, but um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm excited to see what he could do, you know,

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Speaker 1: bringing to this this this secondary when their young crew, Um,

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Speaker 1: you've been watching special on social media. They've been working

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Speaker 1: out together all all season. And that's the one thing

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Speaker 1: to be a good secondary, you gotta be very close,

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Speaker 1: tight knit. And um, back when we played me, Chris Hope,

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Speaker 1: of us that was rotating Altron Verner. I mean we

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Speaker 1: were very close. We worked out together, we ate lunch

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Speaker 1: And that's the year we had three of us go

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl in two thousand and eight. So, UM,

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Speaker 1: to have a good secondary, you know, you you gotta

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Speaker 1: be very close, and you gotta know what each and

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Speaker 1: everybody is thinking and with it, which you know what

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do. Can I ask about Bired further? You

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Speaker 1: touched on him a little bit. You were a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl safety byered, isn't all pro safety already? As you

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Speaker 1: watch him from your standpoint having done it, what makes

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Speaker 1: bired so special? And where does he have the ability

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Speaker 1: to get even better? The ability to get better? I mean, um,

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Speaker 1: I think it's the consistency. I think that's what's gonna

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Speaker 1: be most important. I think with my career, and I'm

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Speaker 1: honest to say, you know, you have a good year

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Speaker 1: I think he went with the team. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: a he's a very smart player. You can see how

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Speaker 1: much he wants to learn, how much he wants to know. UM.

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Speaker 1: Very humble, humble guy. Um. And that's and that's the

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Speaker 1: character versus that you know as as a former player,

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Speaker 1: when you look at other players, you know when they're humble. Um.

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Speaker 1: One of the guys I can attest to is Harrison

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Speaker 1: one of the most humblest people that I've probably met,

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Speaker 1: but a real good, good probably one of the best

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Speaker 1: safeties is in the league of not the number one

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Speaker 1: anything I say about Kevin Byers, he could do it

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Speaker 1: all also, But what he could do to get better,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just continue to do what he's been doing

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Speaker 1: is you know, make the plays when they come to you.

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Speaker 1: And that's what he's doing. I mean people question, you know,

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Speaker 1: his his turnovers and they're like, oh, the ball was

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Speaker 1: thrown to yours against the rookie quarterback. Whatever it may be,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It's NFL. These are the top players.

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Speaker 1: Those the players that played on Sunday, and you know, um,

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Speaker 1: you just make the plays when they come to you

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Speaker 1: I fell into that trap sometimes if you know, you

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Speaker 1: That's all you need to do. And that's one thing

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm not going to test the Harrison Smith.

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Speaker 1: He makes the plays that when they come to him

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Speaker 1: and I think if he just continues to do that.

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Speaker 1: just there. It seems like you're still very involved in

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Speaker 1: But I suck at it. Really, you would think you'd

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Speaker 1: So I wasn't getting any points for Drew Brees. I

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Speaker 1: I'm mad that he's not throwing the ball before you know,

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Speaker 1: but it's like, y'all still got two thousand yard rushers

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Speaker 1: y'all almost made it to the Super Bowl. But I'm

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Speaker 1: so I gotta go back and revamp and scout again.

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Speaker 1: Do you understand now why fans get so frustrated with

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Speaker 1: players and with well, you know, it's weird. It's weird

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Speaker 1: because it's like you're a fan of your tex so

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Speaker 1: it's like I want the Titans to win. It's like

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Speaker 1: another player on another team. Then you're mad at that

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Speaker 1: why they're mad. But when you got money involved, I

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Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't playing, so I was following the rules.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a clever team name? No, I don't

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Speaker 1: gig gigs caves this year? Okay, I thought it would Beffin. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh that'd be good. That like Chuck Chuck ccus to

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Speaker 1: always have these like Griffin later and Griffin and all

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Speaker 1: kinds to Griff something. These are already made fantasy name. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like Courtlon used to make fun of me. Every time.

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Speaker 1: He'd be like Chuck and like go along with it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, Chuck, you don't realize he's like making

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Speaker 1: the lunch room and everybody's like, you see how I

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Speaker 1: got chucked? The call him Griffin. Later again, he's like,

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Speaker 1: you never really had a nickname, did you? H Really,

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Speaker 1: it was just my number three, three, thirty three, just

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Speaker 1: that Griff, like Griff or thirty three. But it's weird

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Speaker 1: because like my dad goes by Griff. So when I'm

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Speaker 1: at home, if I hear Griff, I don't respond to it.

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Speaker 1: I only respond to it here. So it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like my son. When he's at home, he responds to Michael,

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Speaker 1: but when he's around me, he won't respond to it.

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Speaker 1: Because we had the same first name, different middle names.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want him to be a junior. Have you

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Speaker 1: thought about coaching or personnel? You know what I did,

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Speaker 1: um playing my application to do the coaching intern for

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Speaker 1: either training camp. I think they also want to do OTA,

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Speaker 1: so now I'm like, coach, I was just answering your question.

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Speaker 1: And then something rod some reason, Stephen Tulle turns around

426
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: and goes, Griff, stop being a little something. He says

427
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 1: to me. Next thing, you know, me and him are

428
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: like real good friends. So we like stand up and

429
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: we're like about to fight, but we're not about to fight,

430
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: but we're both looking at each other like who's gonna do? What? Like,

431
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: are you gonna swing in me? No? Whatever? I remember

432
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 1: this brand new polo shirt and he grabbed my shirt,

433
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 1: my collar and broke the buttons. So now me and

434
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: him is wrestling being Tulle is wrestling. This is before

435
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: the night before the game. What Chuck Cecil doing at

436
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 1: Chuck Seasons trying to break it up? Okay, but now

437
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:06,719
Speaker 1: we're wrestling. Mark Rob tries to grab me. I remember

438
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: some reason. He ends up down by my feet. Chris

439
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: Hope is like, he's like, why, like they break us up?

440
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 1: D Chris hoping and they were throwing the ride. So

441
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm out going into the hallway. Chris Hope is like,

442
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 1: what happened between you? And tell it? Y'all are best friends.

443
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: And I look at him, I'm like you and he's

444
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 1: like whatever I do, like because you're late. So Mark

445
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: rob I remember sending me a text measure that night.

446
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm in my room. Everything comes down and he goes grill.

447
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: I played in the league. I know I'm strong. I

448
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: just I can't stop thinking about if I could just

449
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: get one most shot at you and grab you one

450
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: more time, because there's just there's no reason why I

451
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: should have fell to the ground that quick. But y'all

452
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 1: gotta let Chris Hope tell the story because he he

453
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: said it better. He's like, he see He's like Mark Robs.

454
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: All I saw was the bottom of his george. But

455
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: that probably might have been one of the like one

456
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: of my highlight moments because it was like then we

457
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: went out and played Jacksonville Monday night, and like I

458
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: think we had like three or four interceptions versus It

459
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 1: was like crazy, Rmber, Chuck Seesar, just like, I don't

460
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: know if I should talk to anybody because but it

461
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: was like a funny game. Man, I can't get I

462
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting the button he broke my buttons. I was

463
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: so mad he broke my buttons. Are you having a

464
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: hard time kind of getting into the post player life

465
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: and mindset? I know that's definitely a transition because you're

466
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: so used to routine all the time. Well, at first

467
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: it was, you know, at first, I still had the routine.

468
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, I was still working out and things of

469
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: that nature. Um, you know, I trained with Brian Rackpole,

470
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: Derek Johnson, Fozzy Whittaker, Jordan Hicks. I mean, the list

471
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 1: goes on. Current long was at a the NFL UM

472
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: I was training with him, meeting every day after my

473
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: last year in Carolina, you know, just in case I

474
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: got a phone call whatever. I was ready to go.

475
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I kept training, training, and you know,

476
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: but I think it was round deep round Christmas time.

477
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: It was like week fifteen sixteen. That's when it like

478
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: hit me. I was coming actually coming to Tennessee and

479
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: it was when you played the Rams. I was coming

480
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: here and I was gonna be here for like a week.

481
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: And I told my trainer that you know, the trains

482
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: all of us, that hey, I'm gonna be gone for

483
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: a week. And then I was like, you know what,

484
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: like because when Aaron Williams was training with me also,

485
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: and you know, he just stopped showing up one day

486
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: and I was still going. And then one day I

487
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: was like, you know what I mean, the rit is

488
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: pretty much on the wall. And at that time it

489
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: was like MC, go ahead, shut this thing down. And

490
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it was, it was hard

491
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: at first because you know, every Sunday it was like

492
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: you used to getting up and ready to play. But um,

493
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: but it would have been selfish for me to be

494
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: like upset or or basically going to depression or something.

495
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: But now I got to play ten years people, that's

496
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: like almost unheard of. So um, it was tough at first.

497
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: But you know, things that I've missed being there for

498
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: my kids. Um my son he's getting older now playing

499
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: sports and stuff. I mean, when I was playing, he

500
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: did not want to play football at all. He did

501
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: not want to do it. Then one day just I

502
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: want to play football. I'm like, why I'm not making

503
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: you do it. He's like, no, I want to play

504
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 1: because I want to play, and he started seeing all

505
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: his friends playing and things, and then he just decided

506
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: he wanted to play football. So started supporting them with that.

507
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: My daughter, she's been playing soccer since she was here,

508
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: but now she's still playing um this year. They just

509
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: played for the championship game yesterday. They lost in a

510
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: PK shootout, but um, given doing real well. She's played

511
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: up seven, but she was playing with nine and teen

512
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: year old yesterday, so she's been playing up. She's been

513
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: doing real well. Um. Then I got a thirteen month old,

514
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: which I got to see, you know, from birth to

515
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: started crawling to walking. And unfortunately this is the one

516
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: that's really not a daddy's child. My son and my daughter,

517
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: the older one is, but this one is more clingy

518
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: to mommy song thank god, because maybe she don't want

519
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: them more kids because I don't want them more. But

520
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: but that may be the headline from this podcast. Man,

521
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: I hope that one live. Like you've done enough late

522
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: nights and man, you know, because now you know, you

523
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: used to have that excuse like I gotta go to

524
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: practice in the morning, and I was like, you ain't

525
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: got no job. It's like, oh yeah, okay, you're right,

526
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: So all right. So you say the thing that you

527
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: missed the most the fellows being in the locker room,

528
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: and that's virtually what every retired player says. You said,

529
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: the thing that you like the most about being a

530
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: retired player is being with family. Is there something else

531
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: that you're really enjoying about life after football outside of

532
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: family that you never thought you would enjoy? There's little

533
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: things like, um, you know, the things you want supposed

534
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: to do, Like I mean, I gotta I gotta a

535
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: couple of motorcycles now that you know, I go ride

536
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: with friends, and contractually you couldn't do that, right exactly,

537
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: So I finally got that. So like things like that,

538
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: like I go ride with friends and stuff. Um kind

539
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: of bike. I gotta BMWs one thousand double R. It's

540
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: kind of fast. How fast have you gone, I don't know, fast, cruise, okay,

541
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm cruising. I like to look like I mean, all

542
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: my cars. You know, I always had that. It was

543
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: really the only thing you spent your money on. But

544
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 1: I really didn't know. Well I know, but I mean

545
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: you took care of your money. I always had American

546
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: made cars. That's the difference. You know. I didn't have

547
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: like Mercedes and BMW's and Hones stuff. I had American made.

548
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: But that's Dodge. At one point, I never had a dog.

549
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: You never had a Dodge. It was GMC or Chevy.

550
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: So that was always you. Wasn't you driving next to me?

551
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: Huh no? No, some some peoples got in the head

552
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: quite a few simes. See, that's the one thing I

553
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: thought you had got to walk away around you know.

554
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: Still I'm wrong. Okay, I had a Camaroka like real fast.

555
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Well and again it's American made car, and um, but

556
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: if you're a player, I mean, for me, if I

557
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: had that kind of money, i'd have cars too. Why

558
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't you. It's dumb, But it's not dumb. I mean

559
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: I would love to have a car like that. I

560
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: mean it's just for fun. I mean, you could have cars.

561
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't know one thing. I mean for my thirtieth birthday,

562
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I bought I bought myself a McLaren yes, oh wow yeah.

563
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: But then now it's like the dumbest thing I ever did,

564
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: because it still has like that was two thy fifteen

565
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: and I only got like fifteen hundred miles on it

566
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: because it's like where do you go to? Where do

567
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: you go to McLaren? Yeah, so it's like where do

568
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: you go to McLaren? Like just like you wouldn't do

569
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: cars if you had that kind of dough. I mean,

570
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: how many cars do you need? You can only drive

571
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: one at a time. Pair of shoes that you need

572
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna wear one at a time. Well, that's different.

573
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: I don't say twenty cars, but I'm sitting here. If

574
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: you're gonna have am I right? How many bears us

575
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: you need? You right? Where one? One's? Uh? Yeah? But

576
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: how many persons do you need? Where one and one?

577
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: And now we're into a different area. You got different,

578
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: it's different. I mean you wouldn't you take that would

579
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: be my only car? Okay? Listener, shoes go out of style,

580
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: right they do? Yes, But you can have a car,

581
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: you can drive forever as long as take care of it.

582
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Right Yeah? So but so why do you need ten

583
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't because I can ride ten cars?

584
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: You have ten cars? You've ever had ten cars? Okay?

585
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: I didn't think you did. It was more of a

586
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: my life go to vehicle now is like literally the motorcycle,

587
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: like go to the gym, go down the street. What

588
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: always in the contract that you can't You can't you

589
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: can't hang glide, you can't jump out of an airplane anyway. Yeah,

590
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: you can't cliff dive or something that either, okay, But

591
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: what was the most surprising thing that you could not do?

592
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: Means like can't play basketball. You couldn't really play another

593
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: sport that if you got hurt. So like when people

594
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: would say, oh I got a celebrity gag, you come

595
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: and play, it's like you go, but you're like if

596
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I get right, So that was like, I mean, it

597
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: was pretty much like well, I mean it's it's like again,

598
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: it's a business, so it is. The Titans owned you,

599
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: like they owned your body, so you could not put

600
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: your body in harm's way. So now you can do

601
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: all the dangerous things you've always wanted to do. A

602
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: cliff dive, hand glide, not gonna do it. Race your motorcycle,

603
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: Never gonna race it. Really, I might do like a

604
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: track day, but that's just like it's safer not being

605
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: on the streets and stuff. So you can like go,

606
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: but my wife would killing me, sad, I hope she

607
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: don't listen to this. Good But you're maintaining your weight

608
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: very well. You don't look like you've gained a bunch

609
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: of pounds. Oh no, no, I was actually lost weight.

610
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Curiously my last game, I was two twenty five and

611
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: now I'm around about two ten to twelve. Did you

612
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: have to fight? Like Keith Bullack has told us the

613
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: story that he really had to fight to keep his

614
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: weight up. Were you one of those guys as well? U?

615
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: I was the one that to fight to keep my

616
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: way off? Yeah? Like me, Yeah, I'm the guy like

617
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: like or when I play, it's like when I play,

618
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you eat really, you know, you

619
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: don't miss a meal. You get breakfast when you walk in,

620
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: then you get lunch, and then you know, you leave,

621
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: you go get dinner or something. But I mean when

622
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: you you know, on the other side, you got actually

623
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: got to make that food for yourself right here? What

624
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: you want to home it? Yeah cool, I'm gonna grab that,

625
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: going to beating and eat a great meal. Then you

626
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: can snack all day while you and Beatings watching. But

627
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: the nutrition thing changed a lot during your career. I

628
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: had the worst nutrition ever. Really, y'all know, that. Well,

629
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: y'all knew that we ca Yeah, y'all know I had

630
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: the worst nutrition ever. But the nutrition has changed dramatically.

631
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: Do you know. I never caught a cramp until I

632
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: got done plane. Seriously, never pulled a hamstring till I

633
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: was done plane. You're just that. And that's when I

634
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: changed my nutrition to try to drink more water and

635
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: eat more healthier. And then I started like getting cramps

636
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Maybe with McDonald's. I don't even McDonald's.

637
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: It was like soldas like Hawse's to had those like

638
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: soldas and stuff all before practice drink bundles and then

639
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: ride to practice drinking your gather like that was good

640
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: to go. If it works, it works. It worked. It

641
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: was like it was like literally like tuning up a

642
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: fine car, like oil. That was like that was the oil.

643
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: Miss three games, three hundred and forty six games. One

644
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: of the games wasn't even one of the games. One

645
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: of my games. One of the games wheeded my decision.

646
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: That's right. They told me I couldn't play the league. No,

647
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: well that one, but they told me I couldn't play,

648
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: so you only Jerry Jerry Gray said we're not gonna

649
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: play you vers in rams because we don't need you.

650
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: And I did everything I could with the grade. I

651
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: had a torn which is still torn today. I had

652
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 1: a Grade three torn. Quid quieter self, so on one

653
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: side of my legs, like I have to like use

654
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: the other muscles to pull my leg up. But you're

655
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: most proud of that. One hundred and forty six total games,

656
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: counting playoffs, you only missed three missed three one was

657
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: a decision, the one was I got suspended. Oh my god,

658
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: you're still not over that. No I even saw that.

659
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: I even saw what. I can't remember. They played for

660
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: the ballsmore rags, but I seen him and he was like,

661
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: now I really want to apologize. I don't apologize me.

662
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: After I lost two hundred and five thousand dollars, that's

663
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: a lot of money to lose. And then I had

664
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: the um. Then my last year here with me, Mariota

665
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: and Kendall all had the same injury. Right, I missed

666
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: the game versus Atlanta. But then after that I just

667
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: started like shaving my leg and then I just started taping.

668
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: Instead of wearing a brace, I just started taping, like

669
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: put the tape on mine, like instead of using the

670
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: pre wrap you take instead of putting the brace on everything.

671
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: I just shaved my leg and just take the tape

672
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: onto my leg. That's wanting to play. That was the

673
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: best way to that brace is terrible. So I just

674
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: like started doing crazy stuff like that. But you showed up.

675
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: You always showed up. You always practice because and you

676
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: always play. It hurt though, but I did it. But

677
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: that's something to be proud of, don't you think. Yeah?

678
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: I think the crazy one is the one verse on

679
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: the shoulder popped out and put the back end and

680
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: went back in. That wasn't great. I remember that because

681
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: everybody thought, oh he's out for the year. Yeah, they

682
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: popped it back in, went back in. That's impressive for

683
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: someone who didn't really care about their nutrition that much.

684
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: And but you care about your nutrition now the soda,

685
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: So there you go. Kids, don't encourage the children helped it.

686
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: I played in the league for ten years. Did what

687
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: is it that people listening to this don't know about

688
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Michael Griffin that they should know what they don't know? Um,

689
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: the one thing my wife always says, I care about

690
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: everybody else, Like they always says, you stress over that

691
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: too much, Like you always wondered about what people think

692
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: about you. You always you know you You're like It's

693
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: like she's like, you're always nice other people. You always

694
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: like you let people kind of run like push you

695
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: over and run you over. And my mom's but while

696
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: I was the same way, like she's one of people

697
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: that's alway want to take care of people. I always

698
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: want to make sure this goes out of their way

699
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: to do stuff for people. And my wife says me,

700
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: like all the time, like you stress yourself over. You

701
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: stress yourself over too much for other people. Even when

702
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: you know somebody may do you wrong or somebody has

703
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: done you wrong, you still will go over and beyond

704
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: for them. And she's like, I don't understand why you

705
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: do it all the time and you would stress over it.

706
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: Can we address the cupcake in the room. Sure, we'll cook.

707
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Oh that cupka we had to give away for freedom

708
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: one you made. Yeah, so you open Agg's Cupcake shop

709
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. Me and Brian rack Pone or other partner,

710
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: Brian Henson. We're all like good college friends. How is

711
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: that going? It's going real good. I mean it's it's

712
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: over one hundred stores. We stay within the top ten

713
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: every week. It's in BK b k's like right outside.

714
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: Rack is so lazy put it right by his house?

715
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Did He was like, yeah, he ain't. He ain't got

716
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: to go nowhere. He's like, man, I gotta go to work.

717
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: Cool back to all this thing. It was like Rack,

718
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: it's that's like you can run there. It's like three

719
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: miles from your house. Why cupcakes? Why not a hamburger?

720
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: Our slogan is who doesn't love cupcakes? Well, who doesn't

721
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: love cup You're right, yeah so, but but why did

722
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: you decide to do cupcakes rather than fast food or

723
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: sit down restaurant or Um it was, well, the area,

724
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we we we was a real thought out

725
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: process in our personal opinion. UM, when we looked at everything,

726
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: especially for myself. You know, I was just finished my

727
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: last year with Carolina. Um it was in February, Um,

728
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: a year the year and some change ago. We were

729
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: all sitting down the lunch one day and um Rax said, hey, Griff,

730
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: let's let's you ever thought about let's possibly starting a

731
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: business or something, just to get our feet wet. You

732
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: know when the game of football is over for us,

733
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: because you know it's he said, right, now you're a

734
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: free agent, and you know I got, you know, two

735
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: years left for my deal. There's there's no telling how

736
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: much long I'm gonna be able to play, or if

737
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to play or whatever. So I was like cool.

738
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: So our friend Brian Henson, who's been in corporate the

739
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: world ever since he graduated college, we were all like,

740
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: we ate and he said he was thinking about Gig's cupcakes.

741
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: Both of us were familiar with it, and we went

742
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: over to this there's a there's a location to see

743
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: the park that we went to and we let Brian

744
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: Henson try it out and he liked it, and we

745
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: had a couple of other friends with us and they

746
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: all liked it too, and he was like, let's song.

747
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: What do you think about when I want to b Cas?

748
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: There's not one out there? And b Cas is kind

749
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: of like Brentwood here and that, so um, we we

750
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: them too. One day was riding around and there was

751
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: a new strip mall that was being built and they

752
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: talked to the owner of the strip mall and we

753
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: was able to get in there and it was about

754
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: a year process and get everything up and running. We

755
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: went to corporate office. UM sat down kind of like

756
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: the room we're in right now. Spoke with everybody different

757
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: parts of the business and whatnot and to learn the

758
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: INDs and outs. And then um think it was January

759
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: twenty ninth. I believe it was like right after Ractors

760
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: got done with the playoff game. He came and we

761
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: pretty much was like training camp. We was there to

762
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: see the park location every morning at like six o'clock

763
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: in the morning, and we learned the ends and outs

764
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: from learning how they learning the learning the plan to

765
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: know how many cupcakes needs to make for each and

766
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: every day, which flavor to make, how to make them,

767
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: scratch cakes, the mixed cakes, when you grow your shop.

768
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: And we even went to the one in the corporate

769
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: store in Dallas when we stayed there for two days

770
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: and we went through their store and learned everything. So

771
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: it was a long drawing our process. And like I

772
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: said that with Cameron Wolf, you know, we had a

773
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: we did an interview one time and he asked us

774
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: about it, and we were saying that I recommend all players,

775
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: if you want to get into the business world, don't

776
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: do that. You know, my friend has a great idea

777
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: and I invest you know, you really need to really

778
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: sit down and think about it, be hands on, you know,

779
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: know what's going on, learned the ends and outs of it.

780
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: Because when you're done playing football and all you know

781
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: what exs and os and you know routes and defenses

782
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. You know that doesn't transition to

783
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: the real world. Maybe your work ethic does, um, but

784
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 1: in but in the way you work with a team,

785
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: but not the knowledge of what you know. You don't

786
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: really know you know the ins and outs of how

787
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: to run a business. You may think you do, but

788
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, you look at John Robinson and everybody else

789
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: up here in the front the front office and stuff,

790
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: you see how the organization has actually ran. The easy

791
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: part is going out there and not saying it's easy.

792
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: That's just the athletic and the guy given a billion

793
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: of talent that you have to go out there and

794
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: play the game of football. But to be up here

795
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: and to actually have a business that's run, you know

796
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: that that's a lot that you really don't know that

797
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: goes on behind the scenes. What has surprised you the

798
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: most about being a business owner and working more in

799
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: regular corporate America, UM, I mean it's it's your interactions

800
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: and you can't like again and go back to Burning

801
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: Bridge and the interactions. I mean, you'd be surprised on

802
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: the deals and things that we made, um just just

803
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: talking to people, um being a professional athlete or you

804
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: know a lot of times people don't have that access

805
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: to athletes, and you'd be surprised on just being respectful

806
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: and giving somebody your time, on how far that can go. UM,

807
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: I learned that with just there was a kid um

808
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: that a former classmate of buying from Bootie High School.

809
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: She contacted me and asked me to donate a jersey

810
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: because they was doing a fundraiser for this young girl

811
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: who was three years old whom somehow she was being baby.

812
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: She was being babysat by her grandparents. She ended up

813
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: in the pool and drowned or not drowned, but somehow,

814
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: I guess they revived her. But she has brain injuries

815
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: and um, she's like asked me if I could just

816
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: donate a jersey or whatever, and she told me about

817
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: the fundraiser that they had, and I donated a jersey

818
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: and I came over to the to the event and

819
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, they auctioned the jersey off and I mean

820
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: it was nothing. There was nothing I did. I did

821
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: was just giving them jersey and just the people I

822
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: met that was there. That next thing, you know, they're like,

823
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: let me get your phone number. I want to contact you.

824
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: I want to support your business. And there was a

825
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: guide by the name of Brian May who's opening a

826
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: place called Urban Air, which is like a trampoline jump

827
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: part right behind us, and he opened one to see

828
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: the park and he's like, I want to do business

829
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: with you because I see that you care about other people,

830
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: so I'm willing to help you succeed with your business.

831
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: So the slow things like that that you realize as

832
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: being a corporate America, just to respect level and just

833
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: giving your time to people and being able to, you know,

834
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: have people have access to you and not be the

835
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: person that because again I tell people all the time,

836
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: when you're done playing, you know, you're no longer you

837
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: know Michael Griffin the football player for a tendency Titans.

838
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: Now you're just Michael Griffin. And now you have when

839
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: they turn on TV. And this is an example like

840
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: non disrespect anybody. But now you're turning on TV and

841
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: you look at that back half of who that safety is.

842
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: Now you have Kevin Byer, So now you're Michael Griffin,

843
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: but there's Kevin Byer there, m No, you had Keith Bullet.

844
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: But and then after that you have guy like Avery

845
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: Williamson and then it goes on. So you're no longer

846
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: that guy. Yes, you're you're a legend and you're you know,

847
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: you're you're part of the franchise. But now this younger generation,

848
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, as this generation keeps going and going, sooner

849
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: or later, no one's going to remember Michael Griffin. You know.

850
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: Now it's Kevin Byer. And then when Kevin Byrd is

851
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: you know, done and retire, it's going to be somebody else.

852
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: And that's just how it goes. But in the real world,

853
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: you gotta understand that you're no longer Michael Griffin and

854
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: football player. For now you're Michael Griffin. You're a person,

855
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: and they feel like you're just like them. You get

856
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: up every morning, you go to work. You own a business.

857
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: They own a business, whatever it may be, and that's

858
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: who you are. So that's all my kids understand that.

859
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: I don't want you to look at me as you know,

860
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: the you know, the father that played football, but look

861
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: at me as a father that did multiple things throughout

862
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: his life to show you that there's more than one

863
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: there's more than one path to take. You know, you

864
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: don't necessarily my son. You don't have to be me.

865
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a football player. That's the

866
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: reason why they name him Junior. He goes by his

867
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: middle name, Braylen. A lot of people don't even know

868
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: we had the same first name. So I want him

869
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: to be his own person and grow to be what

870
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: he wants to be. And my main objective is to

871
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: support him or whatever he wants to be in life.

872
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: And the same thing goes for my daughter, and the

873
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: same thing goes for the baby girl McKenzie. But you're

874
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: letting him play football. I'm not gonna play football, not tackle, Okay,

875
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: because when he starts playing tack, I definitely want to

876
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: be hands on. I wanted to monitor it because I

877
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: remember growing up. I mean, you have coaches that don't

878
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: really I mean, you don't have a clue, no clue.

879
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised on you. I'm not surprised. I'm well,

880
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: I was very surprised because it's like the things that

881
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: I know now that you go back and you look

882
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, what was I doing. A coach Fisher

883
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: told me when my son Matthew was born, I said,

884
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: when do I get to start letting him play tackle football?

885
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: He said, no, tackle football till middle school? At least

886
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: middle school. He says, flag football. Definitely. It's Cotch Fisher

887
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: and that's what he did, you know, and that's what

888
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: he advised, and it was great. I mean, Matthew played

889
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: flag I think flag football is the greatest thing in

890
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: the world for guys to learn the game, definitely, and

891
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: the coaching is easier so you can find better coaches

892
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: and then you get to middle school and you got it.

893
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: It's the things you see now. Man. I have friends

894
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: that got kids, and it's like weird because they'll contact

895
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: me and ask me questions like and what do you think?

896
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think? What you like?

897
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: Do it? He's a kid. Let them be a kid.

898
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 1: You know, I have some You know, it's funny because

899
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: it's like they wasn't like this until you know, I

900
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: had my career and now it's like sometimes like you

901
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: seeing people trying to do their lives through their kids.

902
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: They're trying to get their kids to be what what

903
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: I am or whatever they think or what they saw

904
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: me do, and it's like listening, you know, let them

905
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: be kids. You know, if they really want to do it,

906
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna do it. I mean there's a lot of people,

907
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: when you realize it, has a lot of talent, but

908
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: it's the mindset if you really want to do it

909
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: or not. And that's what a lot of times they

910
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: don't parents understand is if the kid wants to do it,

911
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: let him do it, support him. But if he doesn't,

912
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: don't push him to do something because that's what you

913
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: want him to do. And I think that's where a

914
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: lot of relationships, you know, kind of get this. It's

915
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: combabulated between you know, father and son or you know,

916
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: falling daughter, whatever it may be, because when you push

917
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: that kid, you burn that kid out. I got a

918
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: friend right now that you know, it's weird watching his

919
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: son plays six man tackle football right now, and then

920
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna go right into eleven man football during the summer,

921
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: and it's like you gotta give him a break, like

922
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: you have to. And then I also heard the story

923
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: of a kid who apologized to his parents because they

924
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: kept putting him through camps and paying from you know,

925
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: one on one coaching, and when he didn't get a scholarship,

926
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: he apologized to his dad and something, I'm sorry I

927
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: didn't get you what you what you wanted. Wow, it

928
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: can be all consuming. It really can't for kids and

929
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: for parents. I mean, you put money into it, you

930
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: put time into it. And I tell my kids all

931
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: the time, you don't want to do it, just tell me,

932
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: because I about to say my money and come out

933
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: here another motorcycle. Y. I tell my daughter all the time.

934
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: I told the coach the other day. Listen, is she

935
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: go out there and get the watching Just take her

936
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: out of the game, Like, really, we can go home

937
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: right now. It's not I don't care we lose the draw.

938
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna play and I'm going to spend

939
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: my money, better give hundred and ten percent. That's all

940
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: I have. I don't want nothing else. Your mindset is

941
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: fantastic for the next part of your life. I mean,

942
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: it really is. And it's so great to see. You know.

943
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: It's like Peter Sermon we were talking about earlier. Peter

944
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Sermon could have kept playing. He said, you know what,

945
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on to the next stage. I'm healthy.

946
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of things I want to do.

947
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: And he's gone on and succeeded in coaching. Keith Bullock

948
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: has gone on and succeeded in various things. It's exciting

949
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: to see you like this as a as a dad

950
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: and as a businessman. And it's ironic you're thirty three

951
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: years old. I think the next thirty three years of

952
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: your life and beyond are going to be just as exciting. Yes, sir,

953
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: I think so too. I mean I'm excited. You know.

954
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: It's still trying to figure things out here and there,

955
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, dimming and dabbing here and there, just to

956
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: see how light test of waters here and there. But

957
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: then again, it's it's you know, the most problem moments

958
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: just being there, you know, for my kids and stuff.

959
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: That's the main thing is just you know, watching them

960
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: play and enjoy sports and seeing the smiles in their faces. Um,

961
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: you know right now, they're they're happy. They get to

962
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: skip school and they got to go back on Wednesday.

963
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: Skipping school was never a problem for me. I thought

964
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: it was great. Watching One night, he son tricked me,

965
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: he said he was sick, and we ended up going

966
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: to go watch a movie. Um, the New Avengers movie.

967
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: So I mean just things like that. I mean, wake

968
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: up with time, you want to wake up, work out,

969
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, you can go in the gym and be

970
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: working out and be like, you know what they say,

971
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: go you know, No, I'm not going for ten. I'm

972
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: gonna stop at five. That should be the title of

973
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: today's show. Normally I stopped at ten, and now today

974
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm only gonna go for five. Michael Griffin, Um, this

975
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: has been a delight. We've kept you too long, but

976
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: it's been so much fun talking. He should go into broadcasting.

977
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: You should go into broadcasting. And you have to promise

978
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: us you're not going to leave us here in Nashville.

979
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: We'll be back around always tighten for life. Oh, I'll

980
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: be back into perfect. We should entitle this one instead

981
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: of OTP eleven, it should be OTP thirty three. Oh

982
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I like it. See Gay Ways Get thirty two. Michael Griffin,

983
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you for aby wells. I

984
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: might key great stuff on OTP thirty three. Thanks for

985
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: joining us.