WEBVTT - OMG: Donna Turns In her V-Card 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.560 It's nine O gene one Engine with Jenny Garth and 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:05.480 Tory Spelling. 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:11.440 Can I just point out, you guys, I know it's 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.000 a podcast, but I am wearing white because it's your night, 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.600 because I'm losing my virginity. 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:19.920 Oh is not a song? 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:26.079 Yeah, losing my religion? Oh no, wait, like a virgin Hey, 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.160 that's the fit I like when you do these. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:35.080 Bye, David Silver, Yeah, why because you waited? Because you waited? 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.840 Oh he waited so much time on this episode. Okay, 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.200 so much happens in this episode is so so good. Okay. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:47.519 This is part due of graduation Day and this is 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.640 also aired on May twenty first, nineteen ninety seven, episode 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.960 thirty two. This is it you guys. This is the 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.080 last episode of season seven. Give him a final synopsis. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:58.880 Stour we made it here. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:03.160 A go, says Kelly's convinced Valerie was just bluffing. After 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.760 Brandon talks are off the ledge, Claire says, of what 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.400 you know, I can't do a French accent of his 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.759 peace out in French to Steve, but a lonely Valerie says, 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.640 bonjou got that one. Bill Taylor is about to do 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.040 time for his white colored crimes, and Donna is roaring 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:22.240 to go after the twenties birthday bash, bringing seven seasons 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.280 of dry humping to a climactic. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.920 It does not say that. It does not say seven 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.080 seasons of dry humping. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:35.200 My friend's word for word, Lorraine, I have specialty, Loree. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:36.480 Your gig's so naughty. 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.600 Seven seasons of dry humping to a climactic end. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.440 Oh wow, that's a lot, okay. Directed again by Jason 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:49.160 Priestley and written by Larry Mullen and Phil Sabbath. Sabbath. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.400 So many questions, where to start. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.360 So many answers. Oh my save Tory's part for the end, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.560 can we please? Or do you want to start with it? No, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.040 we'll save it for the end. All right, Fine, okay. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:03.800 It's taking. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.680 So I've held on to this for seven seasons. You guys, 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:07.440 give me something. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:08.200 Let me say he. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.000 Needs more time. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.400 Do we start with Valerie Claire. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.000 Let's start with Valerie on the cliffs edge, because that's 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.480 where I ended it, like part one, Part two, and 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.720 so she's on the cliffs edge in her mark wang 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.160 Nark evening gown. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.280 And the first of all, I did like her goods. Yes, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.239 she was ready for graduation. And here's my problem. Brandon 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.560 talks her off the ledge, Yes in Santa and they 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.360 run to graduation and it's never spoken of again. Okay, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:37.160 but let's go back. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.480 It's it's not never spoken of. I think he says 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.400 she doesn't want to talk about it, but she seems 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.160 so happy when she comes back. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.320 She seems so okay. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.560 Yeah, for a person to get to that point, because 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.280 I believe that she could get there. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.320 I don't know correct, but that's why go back to 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:56.840 the bluff. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:58.519 Go back to the bluff. Okay. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.919 I wanted to believe that she was not the girl 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.720 that cried wolf, but I don't know the way this 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.200 played out in the scene. Thank you, I'm so sorry. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.040 If this was ready for the graduation, all she had 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.320 to hear was Kelly's I'll deal with Kelly. That's all 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:17.280 he had to say. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.760 That's all I heard. You can say as a roommate, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:25.040 she was wearing her gown for graduation. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:29.400 Well, well, she was having her own graduation. I get that, Like. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.160 She's checking out. I have so many things to say 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.680 that are not appropriate. Hey, we can cut it, no, 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.400 say it. Well, I'm gonna say it because this is 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.320 a TV show, right, so I'm only saying it because 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:47.200 it's a TV show. The way that hill looked is 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.240 that she would just roll down. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.200 You didn't think it was enough of a hill to 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.040 jump off of. Well, she's gonna land on PCH which 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:56.640 the traffic's kind of crazy down there. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.520 Wait, wait you guys, if I'm right, Shanger Law, which 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.760 is there across the street. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.480 Yes, I looked it up. I actually correct looked it up. 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.720 I feel like it has a different name. Does it 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.960 change the name to the California No? No, is it 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.280 the I did look it up and it looks the same, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.840 but it did. I think it changed names. I think 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.320 it's called the Eden Hotel. Didn't know that. But as 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.840 you both know, it's kind of a two way thing. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.520 It's always like dicey, like you're like kind of on 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.520 BCCH and you get down, but you go down something. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.960 So where she is technically standing, you're correct, she's going 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.040 to go down to another level of a street. 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.280 She's not going she's just gonna hit the on. 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.640 She's not. There are parts that are like would be dangerous, 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.520 but she's sort of just on this thing where you'd 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.680 be like you bounce. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.200 On the second on the on the on ramp. 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.360 Yeah, I always get confused and don't do that on ramp. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.160 But yeah, I always miss that too. But I don't 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:55.320 think that it's the right place for her to have picked, 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.760 Like Tara, Tara really picked a good spot. This place 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.680 looks Yeah, she's probably gonna end up forgetting where Tara 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.960 Taro to the like top of top of Malibu, Like 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:09.880 way up at the top. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:11.480 I thought you were in a car. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.159 We were in a car, but it was on a 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:14.000 cliff in Mali. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:18.360 Oh yeah, there's a shootout on the car. She was trying. Yeah, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.680 that's right, But wasn't she For some reason, I thought 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.120 she was trying to carbon monoxide? Yeah she was. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.440 Yeah, but there was a cliff. We weren't going to jump. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:26.960 But like, yeah, I'm just saying that would have been 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:27.559 a better place. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:28.880 Yeah for sure. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.719 Okay, wait, let's go back. So wait, can we just 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.520 take a poll? Who thinks this was cry wolf? And 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.039 who thinks this was real? 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.239 I think I think it was cry wolf. I feel 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:45.280 like it was real. Emotions, What is happening I do? 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.240 I feel like she's so lost, and she is, but 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.560 and everything has just come to a like a place 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.359 where she doesn't know what else to do, like she 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:54.920 cannot pull herself out of it. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.960 Oh my god, Amy, it's happened. She's convinced her too. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.800 Sorry, Jenny, I'm so sorry. I ain't the kool aid. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:02.440 Kelly at the end too. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.159 It wants it to just let it go and move. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:06.599 Is a bit of a snake. 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:08.719 I mean, yeah, I. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.479 Want to feel for her, I do, but I just 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.960 feel like, deep down negating all the trauma she's been through, 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.000 She's just a bad seed. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.599 I'm sorry you think she just is just what she wants. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.680 How about her looking up with Steve. She hooks up 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.239 with Steve. That looked like fun, That was just having. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.640 A good time, releasing some pressure, some stress. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.440 I have a question. Yeah, this is serious. Think about 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.360 that Valerie at the beginning of the episode. That's one 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.960 Valerie which wait what it looks like that's where she's gonna, 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.120 you know, go off the cliff and Brandon comes and 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.920 it's the drama and I just I need you Brandon, YadA, YadA. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:53.080 But then think of the Valerie at the end with 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.440 Steve and pulling the tie out of her dress and 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.320 then saying to Kelly, you know, I'm sorry and you 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.480 say thank you, and she says, do you mean it? 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.640 Which Valerie do you prefer? Of those two? 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.680 Oh? Prefer I like the second Valerie for shame. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:12.920 I would love the more. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.280 She's fun and she's fun and this little comedy of 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.640 it and yeah, up to. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.440 Sort of shenanigans. I don't mind the shenanigans, the hooking up, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.280 the pulling the tie out yea da yah. Yeah, yeah 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.000 that's the one. That's the one. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.920 I like, that's true. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.400 So while I'm watching them and he's like, come on, 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.440 let's go and all that, I wanted a little bit 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:40.080 more of reminiscent of when Dylan and Brandon had that 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:45.760 moment the cliff, Like the dramatic, dramatic, it went a 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.920 little too seamless, like Okay, we're going great. Oh because 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.080 it wasn't like I wanted to be like in him, 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.920 like grab her and like the cliff was real. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.800 This was cry wolf, I think, is what we're saying. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.080 Yeah, yeah, I would have enjoyed some more dramas. Yeah 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.760 you said you believe it, Well I believed it, But 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.400 I do see your point, Like I could have used 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.040 like that hand in hand. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:11.320 Moment, something that shows me like He's put his relationship 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.560 with the girl he loves on the line here, he's graduating, 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:19.920 like he's what is it, valedictorian, Like he's putting everything 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.680 on the line here for her. And I was like, 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.680 I want to see a little bit more of a moment. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.760 Oh my god. And it happened just in time. He 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:30.480 made it to the ceremony. Just I have it, Yeah, 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.200 walk right up on cue and Brandon Walsh please come 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:34.880 to the stage. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:36.679 And he was so calm. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:50.680 Of course he was, He's Brandon Walsh. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.959 Can I throw out something that I just don't want 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:55.720 to forget to ask? 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:56.280 Of course? 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.640 And again this might just be me being in the gutter. 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:05.840 Does anyone read the scenes with Bill Taylor and the 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:13.080 sister has a little bit weird? Oh that's his daughter? 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:13.920 What is wrong? 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:18.280 I understand. I'm not saying it's I just feel like 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:24.760 the acting is not giving father daughter. Are you saying joy? 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.160 And Bill like, no, I don't. I'm not saying we're 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.640 supposed to think that. No, I understand. I'm saying the 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:38.280 acting acting, I understand, is giving not what they was intended. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.200 Like if I was the director. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.280 He was very like, you know, flirtatious, his acting style 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.520 is very flirtatious. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.440 That's how if I was Jason, I would have said, Hut, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.520 it's giving a little bit of boyfriend girlfriend and not 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.920 father daughter. Let's try it again. Like it's just the 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.120 way he touches in the arm and the way they 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.559 walk into the park that it's not father daughterly And 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.200 this is just me. I could be totally wrong. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.959 I feel like it's Bill though. That is how he 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:08.520 is with. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.600 Well, what's wrong with Kelly? Why isn't he deal with her? 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.760 I don't know, that's what I'm saying that Elly. I 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.160 know it's the different acting. So I'm just saying it. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.240 You all can be mad you write your mean comments. 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.560 You're a gross amy hell Dari, I. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.120 Think that what is wrong with you? 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:25.320 Right? 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:26.680 What is wrong with either way? 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.720 If you didn't write the mean comments, should be very 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:31.800 upset to it. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.640 That's fine, bring them Bringham. But here's my thing. I'm 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.280 not saying that was anyone's intention. I want to be 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.920 really clear. I'm not saying the writers meant that. The 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.760 director did not mean that, the actors did not intend that. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.520 But when you watch it and it happens in it's 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.400 happened in both parts. Maybe when we met her. I 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.360 don't know. I don't know if Bill was there. It's 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:57.760 a it's some something's like maybe she has daddy issues. 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.920 It's just bad acting. It's just a little bit bad acting, 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.040 is what I'm saying. The acting is not like they're 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.360 like in the minds. Maybe she totally loved him, right 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.920 that not loved in the lovely way, but like she 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:15.280 thought he was so fun that she got too comfortable moment. Yeah. Yeah, 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.880 and they weren't being father daughtery just im. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:22.840 Possible, quite possible. But I just feel like, you know, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.760 that's his nature. He kind of talks to even a 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:26.719 policeman like that. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.400 Yeah, he's a cute actor guy. He's like charming. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.320 Yeah, he's the epitome of charming actor man. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:39.400 Yeah hah. It came across like especially like I don't know, 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.160 but anyway, I'll move on from it. Write your letters, 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:42.040 Write your letters. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.040 I was so okay. Then we just go to the party. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.640 Basically we have the graduation. Wait, oh, first the stunt, 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:54.520 the confetti ball amazing. You know, I was actually happy 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.640 about that no one got hurt, that we. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.760 Didn't have to get everybody's name read and watch that nonsense. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:02.320 Did you do it? 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.520 No, I don't. We didn't do that, Okay, we just 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.600 did the moving of the thingy over like was a 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.400 lot of shots of people moving their tassel over. 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.720 But didn't you think Jason did a great job. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.040 It was so cohesive and the way it Yeah, that 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.720 was really like I was had all the feelings just 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:22.439 from that I got to say his speech. I wanted 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.200 a little bit more me too, a little bit and 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:30.280 I know there's that that's Brandon, but this is this 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.800 is it? Like you know he leaves next season. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:33.160 I don't know. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.080 I want it one more time with Brandon Wallash to 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:36.920 like give us the little bit. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.520 Of like yep, I will throw one flag on the play. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:45.680 I'm sorry everybody being mad again. California University is supposed 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:46.960 to be like UCLA. 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.680 Yeah, that's not enough people, That's there's not that I've 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.200 been to. I just went to Loyola Marymail, I'm out. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.520 I mean, I've never seen more people at a graduation. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.720 Shot, any kind of college graduation that was not even 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:06.400 like a private school sixth grade graduation, like it wasn't 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.199 it was something enough, you guys. 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.080 We paid a lot of guest stars again, in this 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:11.559 two part finale, like. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.359 We needed just a few, maybe a thousand. 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.840 More exit bodies. The party needed about double the people. Also, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.800 I feel like that was a good crowd. It was okay, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.120 but because you get that overhead shot and I'm like 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.720 a little spurse. Well, you guys are moving on so fast. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.679 We're just throwing out tidbets, just throwing out We're going 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:31.920 back to the graduated. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.800 This is this is finality. A little bit here, I'm sorry, 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.520 I'm having a moment. Jen, We're never going to graduate again. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.520 We've had two on the show, and this is it. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:43.800 This is it. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.240 Donald Martin graduates. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.040 Everybody graduates. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.120 I don't know, maybe a little I felt a little sad. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.480 So how did Valerie graduate? I've never barely seen her 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:59.360 at class, like she's had so much, like tumultuous stuff, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:04.440 foster business, faked a baby, like her mom, we learned 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.800 about the like her awful childhood, Like never. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.200 Seen her studying once pen to paper. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.120 No, I'm not one hundred percent sure I knew she 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:14.280 was look in class. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.200 Was she in the same grade. I didn't even know. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:22.680 It's like, what the same grade, same year. Yeah, But 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.760 I feel like everybody kind of was cool in there 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:30.520 playing their like emotional position in that graduation, like feel 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:35.320 your tenseness, and I could feel like, you know, the 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.040 energy between Claire and Steve what was happening. I could 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.120 Phil Kelly's like where's you know the whole thing with 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.280 everybody had stuff like on them that they were playing 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:46.760 through that scene, which I really liked. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.040 I felt like we took some really fun behind the 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.560 scenes photos with our disposable cameras at the time. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:57.360 I remember the disposable like picture like photos, actual photographs 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.880 from the blue cap and gown. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:05.280 M right, well, that's because those are online. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.680 That's how you were called perfect. Yeah, maybe not. It's 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:16.000 absolutely totally bananas as everything. It's one thousand per bananas, 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.360 which mister and missus Walsh are not. The graduation like, 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.040 that's just absolutely totally bananas. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.000 I want the story because there's a story here. You guys, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.160 we need to call. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:32.760 Something because like John Eisendraft, you want to call him. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:37.000 No, I have a question, do they ever show up again? 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.840 Good question? You should know, super fan. I don't know. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.840 I can't remember everything, and I see your emails when 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.320 you're like, I can't blame it, and we got it wrong. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.000 It's like, you really want me to remember ten years 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:50.280 every detail? Yes, we need what you're here because we 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:55.400 don't remember. Oh my god, I'm trying to find out 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:56.160 you can. 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:56.480 Look at it. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.320 Feel like they never come back, you guys. 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.840 Never or not once? I feel like, oh, that was 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.840 on BH nine to two zero, Yes, Mama came. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.320 Did they come back for that? Carol? Did? 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.400 Carol? And she was their therapist? 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.080 Oh that's cute. Yeah, oh Lorraine, thank you? She says. 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.000 Jim comes back in season eight? 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.040 Okay, okay, something to look forward to. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.640 So then, hey, we got it wrong. There was no 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:23.440 like weirdness. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.120 Why didn't he come back? Now? 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.760 Why didn't they come back for the episode? 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.880 Carol? Did Carol Potter come back? Also? They both come back? 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:36.160 I think, oh okay, well wish it had been this episode. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:41.360 Did they come back when Brandon's there? Okay, because he's leaving? 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.160 Yeah, I think they come back for the final Okay, 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.760 that's going to be exciting. Oh that'll be good. 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:49.960 Then can we what else? 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:50.920 Can you talk about? 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.320 The confetti thing? Clara tells Steve to grow up before 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:58.560 the ceremony. She's like, you're such a baby. You need 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:03.680 to grow up that she's gonna lie, yes, but also 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:07.320 she enjoyed the confetti bombs. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.800 Everybody loved it. What's up her butt? Like, what's her problem? 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.400 She's a wet blanket. But my thing is it's okay 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:16.960 to be one or the other. She can be a 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.800 wet blanket or she can be like grappling with going 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:20.480 to Paris. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.679 You think she can't be just a Debbie downer? 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.960 All Okay? The reason we don't like her now is 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:29.479 because she's just a downer. All who that's very extreme? Sorry, 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.360 but we don't. We're just done. No one cares. I 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:33.639 love her, I. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.879 Like her character, and I loved it the beach scene, 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:41.240 you guys, when Steve's walking down the beach sand with 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.719 like a penguin his outfit. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.760 I am pissed at that scene. I am very angry 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.280 at that scene. Why. I'm gonna tell you right now. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.000 I'm very angry because I want it. Fine, you guys 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.119 were done with them, Fine, you didn't like their relationship, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.119 but this is it for her, Like I wanted something 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.040 more and she's such a good capable actress and I 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.640 feel like they didn't give her enough to and maybe 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:08.399 it was a choice. 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.200 Is this the last time we're ever seeing her. That 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.280 last shot of her basically walking off into the ocean, 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.359 it looked like if she was gonna drown herself. But 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:17.199 I don't know. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:21.000 I just feel like, am I wrong here? Guys? 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.040 No, it was weird. There was no goodbye with her roommates, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:25.520 there was no did. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.800 They did her dirty? The riot? I just could not 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.840 figure out what to do with her. And I did 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.600 not shed one tear with her leaving. I said, see, 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.119 I felt bad for them. I did. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:38.320 I didn't shed a tear. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:39.520 I literally did. 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.000 I was worried about her sunburn. I was a little 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:43.480 worried about her sunburn happening. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.359 She came across really cold in that scene. And I 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.840 don't feel like, I don't know. You're right the writers 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.159 did her dirty. She was I feel like, real character, 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:53.880 and they sucked her. 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:55.600 That's true, But I don't. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.399 I do think like as her character all that mattered 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.720 to her in that And if I were her in 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.720 those shoes of hers, I would absolutely go with my 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.199 father to Paris and I would say, come with me, 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.760 let's try to make this work what she did. But 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.560 he doesn't want to do that, and she the most 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.600 important thing to her staying with her dad as a 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.280 woman who's lost her dad and wishes she could buy 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.399 back time with him. I'm sure you can. 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:21.880 Relate to her. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.400 I would go wherever my dad went and if he needed. 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.960 Me same, So team should have understood that. 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.560 Yeah, I think she's making the right decision to go 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:35.040 to Paris. It's an It's like everybody remembers Lauren Conrad, 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.439 the girl who didn't go to Paris. So it's like, 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:40.320 I don't know what you're talking about. 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.840 It's from the hills and it was like she picked 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.240 a boy over and get the reference either. 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.240 I never Oh my gosh, I list. 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:48.760 No, it's true. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:50.720 All I know is sex and the city. She went 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.919 to Paris. Everybody goes to Paris. Brenda Carrie went to Paris. 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:59.760 My problem is it's her way, like tell the truth. Hey, Steve, 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:04.120 we're twenty two years old, maybe twenty one. I'm going 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.120 to Paris with my dad. I'm gonna stay in touch 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:07.760