1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast A paranormal podcast network. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: opinions only and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light 14 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: with Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and 15 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. Welcome to my show. 16 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: Remember each week this is the place you go to 17 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: when you want to hear the latest in what is 18 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: happening with the paranormal, You apology, crypto zoology, angelic and 19 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: folly encounters in anything out of the ordinary. I welcome 20 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: you the listener to go to my main website, which 21 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: is Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot com 22 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: and send me your stories, tell me what's going on. 23 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: If you want advice, if you want insight, if you 24 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: want comments, feel free to ask that in your email. 25 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: And the more details the better. So I am fully 26 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: open to anything that you have on your mind. And 27 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: if it's your own comments, your own research, that is 28 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: also very much welcome. Now I have to tell you, 29 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: I just got back from a fabulous conference. I had 30 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: a great time. I was a guest speaker. I got 31 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: to join several other wonderful speakers at UFO Fest in McMinnville, Oregon. 32 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: And wow, just wow, really nice to get back out 33 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: into the world after so much going on with the 34 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: COVID lockdowns. And yes, we were COVID safe. Everything was 35 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: on the up and up, and I think people really 36 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: adhered to what was required of them so we could 37 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: all enjoy a nice festival safely. And I gotta tell 38 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: you too, it's so bizarre to me anymore that gosh, 39 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's like getting used to that all over again, 40 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: like that whole camaraderie that coming together to discuss topics 41 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: that interest all of us when it comes to UFOs, 42 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: in particular for this conference, and I mean, wow, did 43 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: I miss it? I missed it. I was like, Oh, 44 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: that's how good these things used to be. Oh my gosh. 45 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I ran a UFO paranormal discussion group 46 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: for many years at a library and out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 47 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: and you know, people would wander in there, and some 48 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: people had never experienced anything out of the ordinary, but 49 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: they would come and you have to sit in and 50 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: listen and aim to learn, and oftentimes they'd come back 51 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: and interesting enough, they'd come back and oftentimes they'd have 52 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: an experience soon after joining the group. And I always 53 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: wondered about that. I guess this a contagion. Did we 54 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: drop or plant a seed for them to pay attention 55 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: more or did something see that they came to the 56 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: meeting and help them pay attention more. Did their their 57 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: spirit open up to something, you know, the possibilities just 58 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: their mind even um. I just always found that really fascinating. 59 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Now at this conference, I gotta tell you, I've been 60 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: too many over the years, and people, the people, that's 61 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: what's the most intriguing. It's the individual stories. It's looking 62 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: people eye to eye and having those conversations and just 63 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: like wow, you know it's it's so uplifting. It helps 64 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: jar the mind to think and try to figure out 65 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: and solve and resolve issues when it comes to any 66 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: of these topics that are out of the ordinary. But 67 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you so, I've set out to do 68 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: one of my podcasts there and a podcast welcome people 69 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: to come up and talk and record their experiences for 70 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: this show. And guess what, very much like this show 71 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: where I get plenty of emails, uh, but not as 72 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: many people who want to go on record with their 73 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: voice like they're afraid they'll be recognized. There's there's no 74 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: anonymity with going on the record with their voice, with 75 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: their name. I mean, sure I get some folks, but 76 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, I was surprised that none wanted to do that, 77 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: not on the record. No, no, no, And uh, I 78 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: can't help but to wonder though, too, if this is 79 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: a showing of the changing times. And that's kind of 80 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: a twofold thing, because hello, COVID, we're not used to 81 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: getting up and communicating with each other eye to eye anymore. 82 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: I swear to you, and I did have my directly 83 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: across and would be looking into the eyes of the 84 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: people talking to me. But over the years, you know, 85 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: going to conferences, going to UFO paranormal discussion group meetings, 86 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we sat in the round table and 87 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: we had a good old time looking at each other 88 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: and high and sharing our our experiences or thoughts and 89 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: our research, you know, anything, bearing heart and soul, tears, blood, sweat, 90 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: all of that, the nightmares, everything. But we're kind of 91 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: out of practice with that anymore, because, let's face it, 92 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we are an Internet generation of folks now right. 93 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: I mean we sit and we communicate in our meetings 94 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: are online, they're virtual, we're zooming, we're emailing, we're texting. 95 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: But having these group conversations it doesn't happen as much 96 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: even before COVID. You it before COVID. But I'll tell 97 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: you the truth, it's not so bad. But you know, 98 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: when you're wearing your mask, right, you don't even have 99 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: to smile if you don't want to. And I found 100 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: myself not even doing that and and finding it really odd. 101 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: When I would take my mask off, it was like 102 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: it's so weird. I don't know, I'm sure there's other 103 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: sofs are like me where it's like, oh, I can 104 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: smile and they'll actually see me. Now, you know, there's 105 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: something that is really truly lacking in our conversations and 106 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: our connections when we're not even smile smiling underneath the mask, 107 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: you know. And so when the mask comes off and 108 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: you have to express yourself, it's it's it's a it's 109 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: straining almost like it's you're out of practice. It's like, 110 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, I could smile, they'll they'll catch this. 111 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: So I'm just finding, you know, even with can you 112 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: communicate online like we do not? We do not express 113 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: ourselves the same way, right, I mean you're gonna smile 114 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: while you're messaging somebody? No? Sometimes yeah, okay, but it's different. 115 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: And it's the same with when we're having to mask 116 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: up and you know, for our safety and safety of others. 117 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: So it's like, and we want to be able to 118 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: have these these conversations and get out, but I'm finding 119 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: we're out of practice. We're out of practice for COVID, 120 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: we're out of practice due to meeting online versus in person. 121 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: And wow, that connection is really important, It's really important. 122 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: It's like I just I'm just surprised. You know. When 123 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: I would listen to Coast to Coast AM, I would 124 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: try to call in to the phone lines and they 125 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: always be jammed, like always, I never could get through it. 126 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: I was always so frustrated, like never will this happen? 127 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: And the people that did I was always super impressed. 128 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: And if they were a repeat caller, especially, I was like, 129 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: what what, how how are they doing this? And uh, 130 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, and and now we're we're more reluctant. I'm 131 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: finding uh to go on record because we can express 132 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: ourselves through writing, um, non verbal stuff. And it's like 133 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I get it because 134 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean I I didn't have the nerve much to 135 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: do stuff like that myself. But um, but yeah, I 136 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: think something is I think we missed something when we 137 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: don't communicate with each other um as well. But I 138 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: appreciate your emails. I'm not going to say I don't. 139 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: And I think also there's benefits to using an email too, 140 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: because you can take your time, you can express yourself 141 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: and think out what it is that you really want 142 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: to say, and if you're more stressed about oh my gosh, 143 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: do I sound okay? Uh, will my coworkers recognize me? 144 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: Will my mom recognized me? Of course your mother would. Um. 145 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: But it's it's like, wow, it's one of those it's 146 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: one of those things where um, yeah, people are more shty. 147 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: It's interesting. It's just interesting. So I was surprised, but 148 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: oddly enough, uh, you know. So I'm like, okay, well, 149 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just talk about some of my experiences 150 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: and some of the reasons why I have the angles 151 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: that I do, and I discuss the topics that I 152 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: do right, and then the people were looking to interject 153 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: their thoughts a little bit but not much, and it 154 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: was very very soft spoken, and know, I was like, okay, well, 155 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: this is the end of this, you know, clicking, ending 156 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: the recording session, and several people came up to share 157 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: their stories. So, you know, we've made a lot of 158 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: groundwork in forming various groups and having many conversations and conferences, 159 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: but we're still there's something missing that we're doing this, 160 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: like there's something missing, so we gotta put our heads 161 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: together on this. I was thinking long and hard about it, 162 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: and like I've been too many conferences. We love, we 163 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: love communicating with each other the stories. I mean that 164 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: is what I would go for all the time, Like 165 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: this is the driving force behind me going to conferences. 166 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: And to have that that that fear or maybe out 167 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: of practice in communicating these things to each other or 168 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: another person, Um, that must be part of it. So 169 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: I think we need to get back to having groups. 170 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: I really do. People do love getting out of their homes, right, 171 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: that's still a thing and meeting others and discussing things. 172 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking we need to do that. I really do. 173 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: And maybe I need to resurrect my my group. It 174 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: was called UFO the number two letter you dot com, 175 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: So UFO to you dot com and it's still up. 176 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: And wow, I had that group going for fifteen years 177 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: or so or more. And I'm thinking that, yeah, we 178 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: need to start stepping back out all over the world 179 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: and having these conversations and getting more used to reaching 180 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: out and talking look at each other in their eyes. 181 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: I I think it's important. Yeah. 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You 198 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis 199 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast i 200 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break, I mentioned 201 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: a wonderful u f o FFT I went to in McMinnville, Oregon, 202 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: and Wow, absolutely so good to get back out into 203 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: the world and to meet others who are totally in 204 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: the know or understanding of their being UFOs and connecting 205 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: with people on a very human level. I think it's 206 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: just so important because we still are very very human. 207 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: We're not having any implants that I know of, so 208 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: I hope that we're pretty human still where that that 209 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: having that touch, that looking the eyes, that gesture, that 210 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: really helps us to ground ourselves and express ourselves clearly. 211 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I wanted to share something. While 212 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: I was at the festival, I got the chance to 213 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: speak to several children who were affected by shadow people 214 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: and Hatman of course, and I was it was really 215 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: it was really really really interesting how they approached because 216 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: kids are really you know, they're very much a matter 217 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: of fact, like this has been going on. I don't 218 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: know how to essentially deal with it. I'm afraid to 219 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: go into my bedroom when told me, and uh, yeah, 220 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: it's a it's a problem. I won't sleep in my bedroom, 221 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: like like it's a major problem. And so cool to 222 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: have the parents be a part of the conversation and say, yeah, 223 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're here because we heard you're going to 224 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: be here and we wanted to ask some questions. I 225 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: had more where parents came without their kids asking me questions, 226 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: which was really just it was so satisfying to have 227 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: that opportunity to talk to them and uh and to 228 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: hopefully give them the tools in order to help encourage 229 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: their kids to not be afraid to sleep in their 230 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: own bedroom. Can you imagine that? I mean, what if 231 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: you've got a three bedroom home. Other bedrooms are absolutely full, 232 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: and then you got that one. Where is that kids 233 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: sleeping in your bed every night or the couch? I mean, 234 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: what's worse? I mean for a child to be afraid 235 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: of their bedroom. I mean that is there, that's their sanctity, 236 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: that's their same place, that's their comfort zone, the place 237 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: of their toys, their homework, everything, And to be afraid 238 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: to go in there because they're being targeted by something. Now, 239 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: think about that when it comes to those who say that, well, 240 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: the shadow beings are not bad towards me, so it's okay, 241 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid. But kids, kids can hone in on 242 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: something not being right, especially not being correct for them. 243 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: What do you do when you met with that situation, 244 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: when you've got a kid who refuses to go in 245 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: their room. So difficult. So I had some very in 246 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: depth conversations with people, sometimes a couple of times to 247 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: help follow up with any questions that they had, and 248 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just you could do is hope and 249 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: pray that please please let this uh, let this, let 250 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: this be the right answers for them, because I just 251 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: hate to hear. I just hate to hear what maybe 252 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: the cause of it fully and where it may end up, 253 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: because these things can encourage horrible things for the kid 254 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: to do, horrible things physically violent, homicidal, suicidal, depressed, oppressed, 255 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: and then possessed essentially, So it's a it's terrible, it's 256 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: absolutely terrible. So I'm I'm hopeful that I give the 257 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: right information and I always tell people look right me 258 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: through my website and if you just want the prayer 259 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: of protection that I use that describes the method that 260 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: is used for protecting myself in home no matter where 261 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: I go, I give that out freely. So just write me. 262 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me your whole story. If 263 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: you just want to do that, that's that's easy, absolutely easy. 264 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: So don't hesitate, send what you would like and what's 265 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: on your mind, and it'll definitely be remedied, I hope. Um. 266 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, so it really was. Its heartbreaking, but then 267 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: encouraging to have supportive parents hanging around and you know, 268 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: I got I got another, I got another question. Um. 269 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: It's so fascinating to me because it's like, I talked 270 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: on this show about demons. Okay, that's a biblical term. Uh. 271 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: And the devil's just hat man, which is a biblical term. Um, 272 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: not hat man and shadow people. But you know, the 273 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: devil and demons very biblical, right. Um. Other faiths have 274 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: other names for these types of things as well. But 275 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: someone asked me, and I was very happy to have 276 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: the question sent to me said to me in my 277 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: time that I was there speaking um at this conference. 278 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: So you speak of Jesus and you know in what 279 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: context and why? And uh, you know, a fascinating question. 280 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: And I know people who tune in are like, Okay, 281 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: what are we dealing with here? You know what's going on? 282 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I am speaking about demons and the 283 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: devil um, And I'm also speaking of how do you 284 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: find answers to get rid of such things? And and 285 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: let me tell you, when you're the person in the 286 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: midst of an onslaught of something evil, you don't care 287 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: about the use of words. You just want answers and 288 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: you want help and you want it now, but sometimes 289 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: people are like, whoa, whoa, she's talking about God and this, 290 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: you know. And again, I am not the type to 291 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: be very pushy, but I just found it to be 292 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: fascinating that was brought up there because I'm assuming they 293 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: heard some of my podcast and it was like, oh, 294 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: this is a bit religious. But why I mean, I 295 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: I think she's talking about aliens a lot and talking 296 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: about these different topics. It's okay to have a belief 297 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: system in an understanding system, you know, faith based versus 298 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: an obvious spaces. I mean, why not. There's no rules 299 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: to this world, people, not not in which you could 300 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: use your eyeballs to see with and use your brain 301 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: to interpret. It's okay, It's really okay. There is not 302 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: a bouncer that's going to be like, Okay, you're out 303 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: of here, buddy. It's just it's okay. So yeah, so 304 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: I had some really fascinating questions toss my way, and 305 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: I just thought I would bring that up because I know, 306 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: I know, I know that people get curious about the 307 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: methods of things being mentioned. But talk about demons all 308 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: you want, Heidi, But whoa, you talked about something positive. Yeah, 309 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: that's the only thing I know that defeats this dark garbage. 310 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: And it's so very true. It is so very true. 311 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: I have to have to have to Another thing that 312 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: got brought up to me quite often was how do 313 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: you go about protecting yourself? And on the show, of 314 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: course I speak of that all the time. It's kind 315 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: of a big deal, especially if you are in the 316 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: midst of dealing with an onslaught of something negative. So 317 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: that was that was kind of cool that people were okay, okay, 318 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: so I can acknowledge that I had something negative coming 319 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: at me. What do I do next? It's like, oh, oh, well, cool, 320 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: And it's really thoughtful conversations. I was really enjoying that. 321 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: And boy did I miss that because oh, the COVID 322 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: world has really shaken and flipped things upside down for 323 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: all of us. And getting the conversation, getting hearing what's 324 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: important to people, hearing the parents say hey, I need 325 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: to know this for my kid. It was just it 326 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: was invigorating and I cannot wait until we can have 327 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: a more normal world. I know, this is a new normal. 328 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: I realized that UM, COVID's not gonna magically disappear. UM. 329 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: A lot of people are torn when it comes to 330 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: the topic of vaccines. So we ain't going to go there. Um, 331 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: but I'm I'm hoping and I'm praying there will be 332 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: better treatments so we can have as near a normal 333 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: world as we possibly can. How about that? How about that? 334 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: So can we wish for that altogether? I don't think 335 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: it would be any controversy in regards to that, right, 336 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: I don't think so. So yeah, So I'm I'm just 337 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, I wish everybody could have shown up to 338 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: the conference. I think it was quite a treat and uh, 339 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, as things become more safe, as different places 340 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: have different things put in order and in place for 341 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: us to remain safe, I think we're gonna rediscover some 342 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: of the conversations that are going on out there and 343 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: see the increase in activity going on out there too, 344 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: because a lot of us haven't had a regular nine 345 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: to five, so we've been home, paying attention, sleeping at 346 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: all odd hours, looking at the sky, noticing it, pulling 347 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: it into our psyche, trying to better understand our surroundings, 348 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: and of course these negative things, if it's shadow people, 349 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: if it's negative beings or hat Man was also taking 350 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: a peek like, wow, their home a lot. Um, we 351 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: could probably take advantage of the situation. They lost their job, 352 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: they lost their health, maybe a family member. These things 353 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: are taking advantage of the situation. So we have to 354 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: be aware that this increase in activity correlates with COVID, 355 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: the COVID world that has really decimated so many people's livelihood, 356 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: their thoughts, their emotions, everything, their stability. So it's been 357 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: it's been really rough out there. So yeah, it's uh yeah, 358 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think we're gonna we're gonna find 359 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: and learn and hear new perspectives and have new conversations, 360 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: and personally, I'm looking forward to that connection. We need it, 361 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: We're ham it, right, So alright, so after the break, 362 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna pick up into your emails. I've got some here, 363 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: and uh, I always enjoy reading these and I like 364 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: reading them cold turkey, and hopefully they're not repaid. Sometimes 365 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: people will keep sending the same email and I don't 366 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: catch it all the time, So pardon me if there's 367 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: a repeat in here, because it does happen. It's happened 368 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: in my past, it's happened in my present. I'm sure 369 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: of it. Um. So all right, you guys, stick after 370 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: the break, because wow, these are going to be really good. 371 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: I'm sure. All right, you are listening to Dark Becomes 372 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 373 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network. Stick at Okay, folks, 374 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: we need your music. 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You 384 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light within me Heidi Hollis 385 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM. 386 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: There are a normal podcast network, all right, and as 387 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: I mentioned, you are all welcome to send in your 388 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: emails about whatever it is that you're experiencing out of 389 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: the ordinary. From Angels Daily, Shadow People to hat Man, 390 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: and I want you to go to my main website, 391 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: which is shadow Folks dot com or Heidi House dot 392 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: com and so put your stories there. And you are 393 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: always welcome to pop on this show. But as I 394 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: just mentioned, most of you prefer that I read what 395 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: is going on, and I get it. I get it. 396 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of nerve wracking to go on a show, 397 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: so it's all good. I do not mind one bit. 398 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: So I'm going to jump on into this first email. 399 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: It says, Hi, Heidi, I really enjoyed listening to you 400 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: as a guest on Coast to Coast. AM Well, thank you. 401 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: I've had this strange experience happened to me about four 402 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: times in the past eight years. I wake up on 403 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: a late Sunday morning around eleven AM in my bedroom. 404 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: It is already bright from the sunshine outside. My eyes 405 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: are still a bit hazy from waking up, but I'm awake. 406 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I clearly see shadow images of both large spiders and 407 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: see turtles, oh wow, crawling up my wall, each in 408 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: their own line hmm. They start up halfway on the 409 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: wall and when they get to the top of the ceiling, 410 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: they immediately disappear. I'm not scared when this is happening, 411 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: but it does make me wonder what's really going on. 412 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: I just lie in my bed and watch them until 413 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: they fully just go away. Any insights on what this 414 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: might be and should I be worried? Thanks for your help, Gina, Well, 415 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: shadow all time. I'm sorry, Shadow sea turtles. Okay, that's 416 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: that's That is a first, Gina, Absolutely a first, okay, 417 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: But going in a line that makes me think like 418 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: there's a like, you know, like a child's mobile, Like 419 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: it's just something that's projecting and causing these shadows to 420 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: appear as that. It's just it's not something that I 421 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: hear typically to go and straight up a wall and 422 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: just boom, disappear. And you're saying a shadow spider. Okay, now, 423 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: those bad boys right there, I'm very familiar with those. 424 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: For those of you who do not know, those are 425 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: the ones that I had the most experiences with, and 426 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: they were absolutely horrific. I cannot stand spiders, and they 427 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: would expand into a multitude, sometimes to eat a bity 428 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: tons and thousands, hundreds I don't know of little bitty 429 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: spiders crawling all over me, crawling all over the bed, 430 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: or giant spiders that could take up my entire ceiling. 431 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: So I do not appreciate those things. And I'm trying 432 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: to imagine in my head right now large shadow spiders 433 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: and you said crawling, so they're moving. You see the form, 434 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: you see them making motion. That's a huh. I mean 435 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: that's I really wish I could see the situation. It 436 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: sounds like it's a something that if it does happen again, 437 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: you'd be able to film it, because then that would 438 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: help to better understand it. But you said only four 439 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: times in the past eight years, so it's not consistent. 440 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: But when it's happened, it looks consistent to you. So 441 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: that's that's really uh. That's a puzzling one. I'm not 442 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: certain what that is. But if it's making you feel 443 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: disturbed in any sense of the word, then not a 444 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: good thing. I mean, even if a person is creeping 445 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: behind you and scaring you, and if you don't enjoy 446 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: being scared, not a good thing. So it's something that 447 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: you want to correct, right, So how do you prevent 448 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: that type of thing from happening? I would say clear 449 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: your space with positivity, hoping that nothing would come your way. 450 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: Like that, that would creep around or that would impede 451 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: on your space in any sense of the word, but 452 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: consistent like that sea turtles, shadows say turtles. That is 453 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: really something I am not familiar with at all, So 454 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a bit baffled. But again i'd say, bless 455 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: your space, and no matter what I mean, I have 456 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: to do that wherever I move U just in case, 457 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: because I know things are looking to take advantage and 458 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: uh look for a crack my way at any given time. 459 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: So um yeah, I'm sorry, Gina, I'm kind of stumped 460 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: with that, but I would say, definitely, definitely take the 461 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: steps to bless your space. And if it doesn't repeat itself, 462 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: well there you have it. That that that resolved it. 463 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: It was something negative and it was connected to the 464 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: whole shadow People hat Man phenomena. Um yeah, so okay, 465 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: all right, so I'm gonna move on to the next one. 466 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: This one says, dear Hiding, I came across your book 467 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 1: today about shadow People that's the Secret War Book for 468 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: those of you who do not know, um, and it 469 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: brought up some memories of experiences I've had. You know, 470 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I gotta I gotta pause right there, 471 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: because at the at the conference and in regular everyday life, 472 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: like people who who don't necessarily attribute having had anything 473 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: weird happened in their lives, they'll hear me talk about 474 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: shadow people or comes up somewhere and they look it up. 475 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: They're like, you know, that happened to me. It's like 476 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: they might not have made a big deal of it, 477 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: but it happened and or lingered in their mind, or 478 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: they just didn't connect the dots until they hear my words, 479 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: the description, the phenomena, the whole thing. So this is 480 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: this is uh, that's kind of interesting. Okay. So it continues, 481 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: and it brought up some memories and experiences I've had, 482 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: and I had kind of written the majority of experiences 483 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: off as quote sleep paralysis. Oh my gosh. You know 484 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: you guys, sleep paralysis was not a thing until the 485 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: topic of shadow people got popular with me carrying on 486 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: talking telling the world and not stopping, and science had 487 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: to go, okay, guys, okay, we gotta figure this out 488 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: because otherwise the people might get hipped to there being 489 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: a problem and they can't have at Oh no, no, 490 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: that can't that can't happen no way, So sleep paralysis. 491 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: So see that, like this person here wrote it off 492 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: as something scientific instead of trusting their gut that they 493 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: were experiencing something out of the ordinary. So okay, all right, 494 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: this continuous. But in the back of my mind, I've 495 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: always felt there was something else there. We go. That's 496 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: that's the next sentence. So it's kind of funny. Um, yeah, 497 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: so there it is. He wrote it off. But you 498 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: might have been able to address it and be done 499 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: with it had you not had your mind tainted with 500 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: who's to sleep paralysis scientific? You know, you can't put 501 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: science to spiritual you really, there has to be another approach. 502 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: There just has to be. It's a it's a whole 503 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: different layer. It just is. Alright, So they continue. I 504 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: believe in Jesus, Jesus Christ as my savior, and simple 505 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: sleep paralysis doesn't explain why. The only the thing that 506 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: made the quote things go away was to call upon 507 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: the name of Jesus and command them to leave. He 508 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Okay, sleep paralysis, okay, say Jesus name. 509 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: Oh it goes away. Okay, science, apply that one please, 510 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean it. This is this is darkness, okay, Jesus lightness, 511 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: God lightness, positivity, different faith lightness. Okay, see that, it's 512 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: just it's black and white. It really is. It really is. 513 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: Um Okay, carrying on, Um. Not all of the experiences 514 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: I've had, we're scary, Okay. I've had dreams where I 515 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: was speaking to a heavenly being in a language I 516 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: don't know. That's okay, that's okay. That that that actually 517 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: shows that you have the ability to have two different 518 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: types of experiences. Okay, that's that's great. In fact, that 519 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: shows and proves to me why these dark things were 520 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: coming your way to begin with, and it was to 521 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: block off the light. How you could have these interactions 522 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: with something heavenly like you're speaking of here. And how 523 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: neat about the speaking the different language, because that's something 524 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: that I've also done. Um speaking another language I'm not 525 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: familiar with, and nobody that's ever heard that's ever heard 526 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: me speak it, we're familiar with it as well, So 527 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: it's it's I get it. Okay, alright, So um, they continue. 528 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: I saw an angel once when I was driving down 529 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: the highway. It sounds crazy, I know, but a Middle 530 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: Eastern man dressed in a white robe in the middle 531 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: of a Florida summer. I saw him and had to stop. 532 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: He told me he was sent to spread the word 533 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: of God in America. I was blessed with the opportunity 534 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: to give him water that I had been carrying around 535 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: with me to give to the homeless. Wow, that's pretty cool. 536 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: With all of these experiences and with the stories many 537 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: people have told me, and they put in parentheses, I 538 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: am a hospice bereavement coordinator. All that's beautiful, what a 539 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: cool job. I am looking for some answers. Unfortunately, not 540 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: a lot of people, even in the church or other 541 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: faith communities, are willing to talk about these things. Understandably, 542 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: I think people are afraid because I think it shows 543 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: how much we don't know about reality. Wow. So all 544 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: of this is to say that I am glad someone 545 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 1: is talking about these things, and hopefully by the time 546 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: I finished the book and keep digging myself, I will 547 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: have more answers. Thank you, Jennifer. Wow, thank you Jennifer. 548 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: You know I hear you. It's like if you have 549 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: an experience that is positive, I mean, you just want 550 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: to kind of get the highest mountain to just start 551 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: telling it, you know, like, oh my god, I just 552 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: had this happened, the same couldn't happen too. When it 553 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: comes to the spooky dark stuff, but the positive. You 554 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 1: think that you could go to your church and say, hey, 555 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: this occurred to me, and a lot of people are 556 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: not open. A lot of people are really close off, 557 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: and it's really kind of a strange situation because you 558 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: think everybody wants to hear of something miraculous, but a 559 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: lot of questions get raised. And in fact, I've been 560 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: in that similar situation more times than I care to 561 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: acknowledge here. But I'm going to do that here after 562 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: the break because I'm feeling you. I'm feeling you, Jennifer. 563 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: So we're gonna start right where we're living off here. 564 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: You guys are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me? 565 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 566 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. Stick Around the Internet is 567 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: an extraordinary resource that links our children to a world 568 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: of information, experiences, and ideas and also can expose them 569 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: to risk. Teach your children the basic safety rules of 570 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: the virtual world. Our children are everything. Do everything for 571 00:39:50,200 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: them a welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes 572 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: Light with Me? Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 573 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. I don't 574 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: know if you could tell my voice. It's a bit hoarse. 575 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: I was at a conference speaking to quite a few people, 576 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: so my voice is a little bit crackly. I'm not sick. 577 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: It might be allergy, so too. Um is that time 578 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: of year right? So? Um? You know? Interesting email just 579 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: before the break here talking about positive really positive encounter 580 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: that Jennifer interpreted as an angel um. Just to repeat 581 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of what was put here. Uh, she 582 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: says that where's it there? It is Okay, middle Eastern 583 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: man dressed in a white robe in the middle of 584 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 1: a Florida summer. I saw him and I had to stop. 585 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: He told me he was sent to spread the word 586 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: of God in America, and I was blessed with the 587 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: opportunity to give him water that I have been carrying 588 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: around with me to give to the homeless. And she 589 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: happens to be a hospice bereavement coordinator and U and 590 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: with all of the stories that she that she's had, 591 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: she's found that speaking on these things, even in church 592 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: or in other faith communities, it's just not something that 593 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: gets spoken of much. And you know, I gotta tell 594 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: you guys. So I put out my book called Jesus 595 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: Is No Joke, right, And it was based on encounters 596 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: that I had with something I was the biggest skeptic 597 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: about when it comes to Holy encounters, Jesus encounters. I mean, 598 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: I just you know, I don't know if you remember 599 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 1: when people were saying Jesus is in a piece of toast, 600 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: or he's in a tree drunken, and thousands of people 601 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: would come to look at these items, and I'm like, 602 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous, what what is going on here? So 603 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: I was a really big skeptic about it because I 604 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: was seeing UFOs, I was seeing other creatures, and uh, 605 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, Jesus. I knew he was a 606 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: historical figure that had done his thing and was supposed 607 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: to come back one day and and and he had 608 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: done some great things to set us free. So but 609 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 1: I had witnessed so many things. I really was more 610 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: believing in the things that I could see before me, 611 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: versus the mystery of Jesus though I could see and 612 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: the results of what he'd done. Okay, And but anyway, 613 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: so I wrote a book Jesus is no joke, and 614 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 1: I had several encounters with him, and I'm like, well, 615 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: you know, I cannot wait to talk about this. I 616 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: had already put out the Secret World book, which was 617 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 1: based on shadow People, introducing the topic of shadow people 618 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: and conflict and alien contact and all that stuff. And 619 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: uh then I put out my book on Jesus, and 620 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: and of course I did the same thing. I sent 621 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: it out to radio shows and different people and thought, 622 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, have a look, this is what happened to me. This. 623 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm the same person that put out this book about demons, 624 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: but I got this book that. I mean, I had 625 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: a healing that can't be understood, and I had this 626 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: and I saw him do that, and and I was 627 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: painfully honest, like, look, I am that same person. I've 628 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 1: seen UFOs, I've seen these demonic creatures and uh yeah, 629 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: I uh, I'm just gonna be honest. I say I 630 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: had some encounters with Jesus, and I was a skeptic 631 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: of this, you know, So I was honest in the book. 632 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: I because it would be too easy to just google 633 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: me and be like, well they weren't. They didn't put 634 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: this in the book to admit their background was in 635 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: all these weird things. But I was honest. Um, So 636 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: I reached out to religious radio shows, um, religious uh 637 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: magazines and all sorts of people, you know, and I'm like, oh, 638 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: I just cannot wait. I can't wait to talk to people. 639 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: And then guess what, no people, I had the nastiest, 640 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: meanest things responses from some of these folks, saying, well 641 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: did you test the spirit? Like you obviously would never 642 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: have been lucky enough to meet Jesus? Like what huh? 643 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: Like as if only pastors and priests and and others 644 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: of the cloth were privy to such a thing, Like 645 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm too basic like to have this encounter, But who 646 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: did Jesus serve? You know? It was strange to me. 647 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: And then I learned also that a lot of these 648 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: more religious shows, um, they were very much about preaching 649 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: their word, not taking your word for anything, you know, 650 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: not to hear about miracles in the community. Um. Granted, 651 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: I did learn later that, you know, people that belong 652 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: to certain churches sometimes they got the opportunity to share 653 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: their miracles and stuff. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. 654 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: And I'd heard of people that would go around and 655 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: share at these other churches as well, even if they 656 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: didn't belong to him. So I approached some churches and no, 657 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: and it didn't have any buddy that was open to 658 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: such a thing. And even talking to people that I 659 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: knew that we're friends of mine who experienced things and 660 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: we're religious or Christian or Muslim or Jewish and like 661 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: just to talk about positive God stuff, you know, they 662 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: really they had such a a part in them that said, 663 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: this is the way it's supposed to go. Heidi, You're 664 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: you're so off center, You're you're supposed to be on 665 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: this path, not that path. Like He wouldn't come to 666 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: you that way. Like they were totally putting me through 667 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: their filter, to totally putting me through their filter. And 668 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: I thought, wow, like they put limits on God. They 669 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: put limits on something that's limitless, and and I was 670 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: really surprised. But let's talk about some aliens and oh, 671 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: yet they have a whole lot of things to say 672 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 1: because there's no there's no clear definition in that. That's 673 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: what I've I've discovered. There's no clear definition when it 674 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: comes to ghostly phenomena either. So boy, people could speculate 675 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: share their stories oos and oz, but how you communicate 676 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: with God, and how God communicates with you, how He 677 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: appears in your life, and all these different things. No, no, 678 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna go by the book right here, right here, 679 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: follow that, and you know, I get it to a 680 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: certain extent. But God's not done talking. Just because the 681 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:58,240 Speaker 1: Bible has been written or different religious texts have been written, 682 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: are guided, right. But I was really surprised how closed 683 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: off people were and still are, and how so many 684 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:15,280 Speaker 1: are just guessing. So more recently I started to dive 685 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: into different religious understandings of different Christian um denominations, and uh, yeah, 686 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot of things. I really was surprised 687 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: by that I didn't understand or even no, I didn't 688 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: even know to look to think that, wow, this faith, 689 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: part of the faith believes this over here, and it 690 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 1: thinks that other arm of it is going to hell 691 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: because they're not doing what they're doing. But we're we're 692 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: all Christians, right, Uh. But so much judgment, so much judgment. 693 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: But then when you get a chance, and I did, 694 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: I made a point to get to talk to some 695 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 1: of the people behind these different arms of the one 696 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: Christian faith, and the perspectives were, like everybody seems pretty decent, 697 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: pretty docile, pretty in the know of their belief systems, 698 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: and and and open and sharing. But and acknowledges acknowledges 699 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: the static that exists between the different branches of the 700 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: same faith. But how do you fix that? You can 701 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: acknowledge it, you know what exists, But how how do 702 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: we what do we do? What is the what is 703 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: the button we push to make this okay? If you 704 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: know it's there, I always feel like, then you know 705 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: that you should apply some remedies to it, right, put 706 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: a little ointment on it or something, right, whint you? 707 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's it's been a it's 708 00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:01,760 Speaker 1: been a really interesting time. So it's interesting. Jennifer says 709 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: the same, like, wow, you know, um, a lot of 710 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 1: people are not open to it because they they have 711 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: the book that says God only does this. I understand 712 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: the Bible is complete, there's you know, lots of information 713 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 1: in there. And uh, but I do believe God is 714 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: alive and well today and he's making miracles all the time, 715 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: and he wants those miracles to be shared. And uh, 716 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: I think your story is beautiful, Jennifer. And I'm sorry 717 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: you didn't get a chance to share that much or 718 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: have the conversation like you know what it's like to 719 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: be met with a miracle and and no, it's good. 720 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: It's so much bigger and better than when you're met 721 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: with like say hat Man. You know he's real and 722 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: you want to freak out and tell, oh, my God, 723 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 1: I just experienced this thing, but then I have an 724 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 1: angel and to oh it's real. It is so fabulous, 725 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: And then to be limited. You can't tell people who 726 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: you think are even into the topic of God's miracles, 727 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: they're not really that open because they just don't think 728 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: you're that special enough to have experienced God or his 729 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 1: workers in that way. They really put you on judgment. 730 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: And uh, that's a shame because even with the positive 731 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: people even believed one ounce of some of these miraculous 732 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,720 Speaker 1: stories out there, it would change your world, it really would. 733 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: And I think we need to be more open to 734 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: that because who the good is coming to is this 735 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: bad stuff rises up? Oh my gosh, it is getting bigger, 736 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: badder out there, and the good is responding. It's responding. 737 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: So you know, I want to thank you both for 738 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: taking the time to write me here, and again I 739 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 1: want to everybody that's listening. Feel free to email over 740 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: whatever it is that you're experiencing out of the ordinary, 741 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,720 Speaker 1: even if it's just a thought or a weird dream, 742 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 1: because these things are communicating to us in dreams, whether 743 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: good or bad or spirits. Uh, there's so much to 744 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: talk about. There's so much, So go to shadow Folks 745 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: dot com or Heidi Hollis dot com and uh yeah, 746 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: tell me as much detail as you'd like, because the 747 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: more the better. I always say that I really enjoyed 748 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,879 Speaker 1: the emails, and I love winging it on the show too, 749 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 1: like I get it and I'm like, oh, well, that's 750 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 1: where we're going. Nice. So surprises are always cool too. 751 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: So I'm telling you this world, it keeps changing. I 752 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 1: hope you guys remain safe out there. Keep the faith, 753 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: keep the light on, keep yourself surrounded by positivity, and 754 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: don't let this dark stuff folly you. All right, keep 755 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: your flex on. All right? You guys have been listening 756 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the 757 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 758 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Stay safe, everybody. Goodbye. Well, 759 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: if you liked this edition of dark becomes light. Wait 760 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: til you hear the next one. You've been listening to 761 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal podcast 762 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: network