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Speaker 1: friend Mark Lupa joins us. Hey, lubia A you there,

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Speaker 1: Luby Lou is here, Hey Lupy Lou, I saw you out.

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Speaker 1: We had a drink. Thank you brought me a drink

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Speaker 1: five is great. It was a lovely party. Our friend

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Speaker 1: Damien invited us to Hotel Chocolate where they took over

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Speaker 1: the Park Terrace Hotel and had this really swanky party.

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Afterwards, I went downtown to meet James from US Weekly

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Speaker 1: and Back Crowd. But are still a good boy. By

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Speaker 1: let's jump into the show. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time. So the identity of the quote

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Speaker 1: racist Royals has been accidentally revealed in a Dutch edition

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Speaker 1: of the Bombshell Book. So we've been talking about this

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Speaker 1: book by Omi Scooby, who is a friend of Harry

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Speaker 1: and Meghan's. I'm not sure they're that close anymore. His

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Speaker 1: last book, he was so close to them he had

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Speaker 1: to put out a statement saying that they were not

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Speaker 1: They were the ghost writers of the last book. While

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Speaker 1: this new book has come out and he talks about

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Speaker 1: not one, but two royals who allegedly made racist remarks. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you remember, this was first brought up on the

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Speaker 1: Big Interview with Oprah. Oprah was shocked, Meghan said, one person.

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Speaker 1: Now the book is revealing that it is actually two people.

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Speaker 1: But get this, the names are not in the book

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Speaker 1: that has been published. I'm sure that's because of legal reasons,

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Speaker 1: but they might have been in an earlier draft. That

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Speaker 1: some people have now got the name two, not just one.

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Speaker 1: Two in Britain, no name in America, no names really

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Speaker 1: of this Bombshell book included the two names. A couple

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Speaker 1: of questions here Mark. First is do you want to

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Speaker 1: know the names? And second is do you think this

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Speaker 2: Great questions. Yes, I want to know the names. Do

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Speaker 2: I think it was an accident? All of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: the book has been slammed by critics. You know, they

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Speaker 2: are equating it to being a mouthpiece for Maine and Harry.

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Speaker 2: My thing is this, It's when you go to Oprah

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Speaker 2: and you have an interview with Oprah that's watched by

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Speaker 2: We're going to want to know who it is, right,

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be this interest in it. I think for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll explain the process for my book, which was

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Speaker 1: certainly not a scandalous at all. Exactly it wasn't. It

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Speaker 1: was a self help book. But I wrote my book

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Speaker 1: when did they say that? How do you know that?

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Speaker 1: When you self publish a book, you can really put

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Speaker 1: This is a major book. It goes back and forth

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Speaker 1: And one of the changes that the publisher made was like,

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Speaker 1: we're fine with you revealing it's two people. We are

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Speaker 2: And you know, Rob that the same experience I've had

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Speaker 1: You really don't have to be careful. It's heartbreaking, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: I know when I have something right, I know my source,

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Speaker 1: You have to have evidence to back it up. Well,

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Speaker 1: the show, but this is new so turn away for

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Speaker 1: Was it racist? Was it meant to be hurtful, was

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Speaker 2: I mean, those are huge, huge bombshell news. I mean, wow,

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Speaker 1: now that Pius has said this, and he said it

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Speaker 1: The messenger is not the right messenger. He's the wrong

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Speaker 1: Are they the sources? Who is the source? This is

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Speaker 1: so specific? Kate Charles, who knows that? Who leaked it

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Speaker 1: to hear your results. Haylup, what are you working on?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have a really cute story of for you, Rob.

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey has revealed his cute nickname for Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: So the NFL player revealed the pet name and his

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Speaker 1: I congratulations.

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Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Eagles player pointed out that Swift reacted to

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Speaker 1: Oh, it is cute, isn't it so? That I get this?

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Speaker 1: this must be something huge, Mark. We have no idea

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Speaker 1: I don't respond to likes. I don't respond to comments

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Speaker 1: If Taylor Swift commented on my Instagram, I might respond

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Speaker 1: to that. Do you respond generally? Mark? Where are you?

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Speaker 2: I try to. Sometimes my finger get tired or I

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try and get better at that. This

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Speaker 1: I was hoping for something a little bit more romantic

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Speaker 1: Does I feel romantic?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: It's sweet. It's definitely sweet, and I'm sure it is romantic,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel that, does it. I wanted it

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Speaker 1: to be honey pie or baby face or CUNEI pool

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I know, what does your boyfriend call you?

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Speaker 2: Mark? I don't have we don't have that.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the naughty but Nice Show. I'm rob

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