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Speaker 4: Over the weekend, the US began direct negotiations with Iran.
Speaker 4: In Ohman, we can put this first element up on
Speaker 4: the screen. Interview that Witcoff did with the Wall Street
Speaker 4: Journal has a bunch of people angry because he laid
Speaker 4: out what the US negotiating position is in these upcoming
Speaker 4: talks with Iran, which will now proceed to Rome next,
Speaker 4: which we'll talk about in a moment, and effectively, what
Speaker 4: he said is that the red line for the US
Speaker 4: is weaponization of the nuclear program, and what that means
Speaker 4: is that the US would be comfortable with a civilian
Speaker 4: nuclear program, which is, you know, effectively the nuclear deal
Speaker 4: that Obama and the Europeans in Russia made with Iran
Speaker 4: back in twenty fifteen, the jc POA which Trump subsequently
Speaker 4: walked away from. So that has we can put this
Speaker 4: next tweet up on the screen. This is this is
Speaker 4: from and they scooped this. This is if you're if
Speaker 4: you want to follow this closely, this is called homwaj
Speaker 4: It's homwatched op media. They have very deep sources kind
Speaker 4: of within the Iranian government. So you obviously you want
Speaker 4: to take anything you hear from any government officials with
Speaker 4: a grain of salt. But if you're if you want
Speaker 4: to know how Iranian sources are receiving their end of
Speaker 4: the negotiations, homwag is really good at this. They were
Speaker 4: the first that I saw to report that Witkof had
Speaker 4: come in with some level of humility and had not
Speaker 4: come in demanding, as the Iranians wondered, if he would
Speaker 4: the complete dismantlement of the entire not just that r program.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 3: Senior Iranian political sources said that whit cost draft neither
Speaker 3: contained explicit threats of a military attack Iran has strongly
Speaker 3: rejected any Libya style dismantling of his nuclear program and
Speaker 3: has urged Trump to stop his threats.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is again obvious.
Speaker 3: Let's just remember the history here is that anybody in
Speaker 3: the Middle East, anybody in the world, if you have
Speaker 3: a nuclear program and America's like, you should give up
Speaker 3: that nuclear program, your obvious answer should be no.
Speaker 1: Look what you guys did to Gadafi. How you would
Speaker 1: be an idiot to give it up.
Speaker 3: It's the only security that you have. That's why the
Speaker 3: relations with the North Koreans continue to stall. We have
Speaker 3: this fantasy that once you develop an ICBM capable of
Speaker 3: destroying Los Angeles, so you're going to voluntarily give it up,
Speaker 3: especially when you're the Kim regime and you still have
Speaker 3: total control over the entire country. It's not happening. You're like,
Speaker 3: this is the only guarantee of my entire security. Now,
Speaker 3: the Iranians obviously aren't there, but to give up the
Speaker 3: infrastructure for their own security and legitimacy, it would be preposterous.
Speaker 3: And that's why that's why the pros or A lobby's
Speaker 3: freaking out, because they know they know that.
Speaker 1: It's a non starter.
Speaker 3: And they want that to be the only condition of
Speaker 3: negotiation between Steve wick Coffe, the United States and Iran, and.
Speaker 4: Israel keeps Israeli policymakers keep referring to what they want
Speaker 4: as a Libya style deal. No, they keep using the
Speaker 4: phrase Libya. And anybody who uses the phrase Libya style
Speaker 4: deal in these talks is very directly trying to blow
Speaker 4: up the talks. Because imagine you're on the receiving end
Speaker 4: of that offer and somebody says, what I'd like to
Speaker 4: offer you is a Libya style deal, and you use
Speaker 4: those words. What happened to Kadafi. He gave up his
Speaker 4: nuclear weapons and subsequently was sodomized to death, literally literally
Speaker 4: literally on camera, sodomized to death. That is a Libya
Speaker 4: style deal. And that is what people here who are
Speaker 4: Runnian leadership or anywhere else, or North Korea, anywhere else.
Speaker 4: When when you say that, because you're not even trying
Speaker 4: to sugarcoat it at all, because you there are a
Speaker 4: lot of different phrases you could use, and Libya's style,
Speaker 4: uh is a choice treat of parts. You can put
Speaker 4: up this next elements. He's highlighting uh, He's highlighting this
Speaker 4: massive kind of bubbling up of a campaign that is
Speaker 4: very predictably now coming. For Witcough, they got his They
Speaker 4: got his man, Adam Bowler, who Jared Kushner's roommate. Because
Speaker 4: Bowler not only met directly with Hamas, that wasn't the
Speaker 4: problem because that was approved by Trump. He's he went
Speaker 4: on TV and said.
Speaker 1: That I dared to say that the US US that
Speaker 1: his great flaw and flubb.
Speaker 3: You know, the only reason they can't screw Wickcoff is
Speaker 3: because Wickoff has been Trump's friend for like fifty years.
Speaker 3: And also Wickoff, I mean, let's really ruminate in this too,
Speaker 3: because I think this is very important.
Speaker 1: It maybe relates to a certain debate.
Speaker 4: That Wassauger is talking. You can roll a few more
Speaker 4: of these, Just roll.
Speaker 1: Roll more of these, a better out of Steve Wickcoff.
Speaker 3: We just had a whole little debate on a certain
Speaker 3: platform with a certain person around expertise. And you know,
Speaker 3: Steve Wikoff is a New York City real estate developer
Speaker 3: who built the Fountain Blue casino in Las Vegas and
Speaker 3: has already succeeded in more diplomatic achievement in eighty four
Speaker 3: days of the Trump administration than Anthony Blincoln did in
Speaker 3: four years, and then Jake Sullivan did in twelve years
Speaker 3: in power. Then so many career politicians did over a
Speaker 3: twenty year period, like Brett McGirk, who have all been
Speaker 3: working on all these And it is solely because of
Speaker 3: his effectiveness that these pro Israel folks are all attacking.
Speaker 3: As you guys just saw, the Israel lobby is absolutely
Speaker 3: losing it, specifically because they know that any engagement on
Speaker 3: terms with Iran that do not begin with the total
Speaker 3: dismantling is itself a threat to the stated goals of
Speaker 3: the net and Yahoo government, who believes that overthrow of
Speaker 3: the Iranian regime is not only an imperative for Israel,
Speaker 3: but that the United States must be a precipiting force
Speaker 3: to be able to do that for them, not that
Speaker 3: they themselves are obviously militarily even capable of it. And
Speaker 3: that is why the war is currently happening over our
Speaker 3: own politics right now.
Speaker 1: And let's not forget too.
Speaker 3: Wikkoff is not He is not like he's done very
Speaker 3: well and he's not been fired or anything like that. However,
Speaker 3: the pro Israel forces can move in at any time.
Speaker 3: He successfully negotiated that ceasefire. Ryan, it actually looks like
Speaker 3: phase two. I wouldn't say it was likely, it was possible,
Speaker 3: let's say within the realm twenty percent, thirty percent. Well,
Speaker 3: they successfully killed that BB, and then they got Trump
Speaker 3: to this whole colonized God is a thing BB. Currently
Speaker 3: apparently behind the scenes, the Israelis are freaking out over
Speaker 3: these current deals. I would not put it past them
Speaker 3: any anything is still possible for them to derail these talks,
Speaker 3: to do something, you know, to try and elevate the
Speaker 3: more Adelson and other friendly elements of the administration. So
Speaker 3: for every one step that Steve wid Coff takes, they
Speaker 3: could always take five steps back.
Speaker 4: Wick Cooff is getting a little bit of defense. We
Speaker 4: can put up D four here.
Speaker 1: I sound like a maga thing.
Speaker 4: Laura Lumer came out and, you know, basically saying, look,
Speaker 4: wick Coff has gotten more done than any of these
Speaker 4: clown bureaucrats have in many years. And then Marco Rubio
Speaker 4: quote tweeted Laura Lumer and with the one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: By the way, you know, Elon also supported Steve woodk Coff,
Speaker 3: which is, you know, these are all good things at
Speaker 3: least for us right now.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like I did he lift a Lumor tweet?
Speaker 4: Because aren't they were beef?
Speaker 1: I think he replied to Lumer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Elon was like Steve wood Coff is a is
Speaker 3: a great guy. I know this all sounds preposterous to
Speaker 3: say that, you know, Marco Rubio is quant to be
Speaker 3: dating a Laura lumer or, but it does show that
Speaker 3: there is confidence and they're trying.
Speaker 1: So she got a bunch of.
Speaker 4: People fired recently. Marco Rubio is like she did, I'm
Speaker 4: with her.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, You're right.
Speaker 3: And what we know from all of this is that
Speaker 3: the pro Israel lobby is currently out for blood. They've
Speaker 3: taken two massivels recently in the last week. Number one
Speaker 3: most important is this Iran negotiation. I would actually say
Speaker 3: the Douglas Murray thing is also a secondary one. That
Speaker 3: was their best advocate going forward on the biggest platform
Speaker 3: with an actual skeptic in a real debate.
Speaker 4: They dragged into Gaza, like if you're a Western journalist,
Speaker 4: you cannot get into Gaza. They put a fake press
Speaker 4: vest on him and then and allowed him to be
Speaker 4: escorted into Gaza where he sat down in like the
Speaker 4: chair where Sinwar was killed. So that's their guy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that they put their champion on the field.
Speaker 3: They literally but that is their champion. And so you know,
Speaker 3: they've taken a huge hit in the propaganda war. They've
Speaker 3: taken a big hit here with the Trump administration. In
Speaker 3: some ways, Trump is the only person who could get
Speaker 3: away with this because he's simultaneously is like deporting these
Speaker 3: pro Palestinian students, uh, you know, and others, and so
Speaker 3: they're they're like beating their chest, going rabbit over that,
Speaker 3: but at the same time they're taking a massive foreign
Speaker 3: policy loss.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what. Oh I said that the
Speaker 1: two l's was Iron Deal and Douglas Murtin. Oh, those
Speaker 1: are the two.
Speaker 4: Just love that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds funny, but I honestly don't think
Speaker 3: it is that has been watched by millions of people
Speaker 3: or listen to by a lot that Honestly, if you're
Speaker 3: an average person, you don't have that much exposure Israel
Speaker 3: Pala sign and you just clock in and that's what
Speaker 3: you get. I mean, think about it like that is
Speaker 3: the average Joe. That is probably as close as they're
Speaker 3: going to get to listening to a debate on the
Speaker 3: subject that I don't think it went that well for him.
Speaker 4: No, you would. You would come out of that with
Speaker 4: a deep contempt for contempt to people who have contempt for.
Speaker 3: You, yet they do have contempt for you. It's actually true. Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh my expertise and yeah, literally are in town. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's important to note just that on all fronts, there
Speaker 3: is there's a lot of confounding information around the Iran
Speaker 3: Deal and any potentials.
Speaker 1: Just don't forget that.
Speaker 3: While yes, I think all of this is working in
Speaker 3: the right direction, I absolutely want to commend the Trump
Speaker 3: administration for even attempting this something that Biden. Let's remember
Speaker 3: the Biden administration never even got to this point right here.
Speaker 1: Not even once.
Speaker 3: And in fact, what was Ryan wasn't the DNC platform
Speaker 3: Didn't it repudiate the Iran Deal in twenty twenty four
Speaker 3: if I'm recalling it, had there was some talk in
Speaker 3: the platform specifically about the overthrow or something of like they.
Speaker 4: Actually became more neil went, they went back, yeah direction,
Speaker 4: and then never, Yeah, they never made any serious effort
Speaker 4: to try to get back into the Iran deal. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: here we are, and you put up d D five
Speaker 4: the final element here just to support my claim that
Speaker 4: I'm watch just place to go if you want to
Speaker 4: get early news day. So they were the first to
Speaker 4: report that the next would probably move to Europe. Subsequently,
Speaker 4: after this reporting, it's now been confirmed in Barack Revide
Speaker 4: was the first to confirm it that the next round
Speaker 4: of talks will be in Rome. One that I heard
Speaker 4: is that this will want that A piece of this
Speaker 4: is that it's shorter distance for Wiccough to travel. He's
Speaker 4: a busy man, so having it in Europe rather than
Speaker 4: constantly over somewhere in the Middle East makes it easier
Speaker 4: for the US negotiators, which is kind of silly on
Speaker 4: the way hand, but also suggests that they're pretty serious
Speaker 4: about like wanting this to happen pretty frequently so that
Speaker 4: he can come that he can so that he can
Speaker 4: come regularly to these talks and try to actually make
Speaker 4: progress and get this thing done, because it actually it does.
Speaker 4: It is different, and you know, you've done a lot
Speaker 4: of travel. Your week is much different if you go
Speaker 4: to Roman back then if you go to Oman and back.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. And by the way, in mind, if
Speaker 4: you're also trying to bring Sees the fire back to
Speaker 4: Gaza like, well, go ahead, No, I know, I was.
Speaker 3: Just going to say, I think this is all This
Speaker 3: is all good. We see development of more talks. Oman
Speaker 3: has always been a meeting point for the US and
Speaker 3: for Iran. The what is it the Sultan? I think
Speaker 3: there you want to They're like, yeah, no, we're not
Speaker 3: doing that. And why would you if you were the Ariots,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to fly to I wouldn't want to
Speaker 3: fly to the UA. Just broadly, I do think that
Speaker 3: the overall engagement here is good. You will all need
Speaker 3: to watch carefully. We can easily see a Bowler style sidelining.
Speaker 3: Wick Coff is on the tightest balancing beam that there
Speaker 3: is in all of US politics. The pro Israel lobby
Speaker 3: is gunning for him more than any other figure in
Speaker 3: the Trump administration, and they have successfully sidelined every single
Speaker 3: other person who has dared to even suggest negotiation. And
Speaker 3: of course they got their greatest victory in the ongoing
Speaker 3: continuing war with Gaza.
Speaker 1: So not a win yet. Things are currently in a
Speaker 1: good direction.
Speaker 4: But they could be derailed at any point right and still,
Speaker 4: the complete blockade of humanitarian goods going into Gaza has
Speaker 4: gone now from March second to it's now a fourteenth.
Speaker 4: You can only begin to imagine, like what it's like
Speaker 4: when you have two million people who have not been
Speaker 4: resupplied for six weeks and the level. There are rumors
Speaker 4: going around Gaza that the that the crossings would open
Speaker 4: today or tomorrow. Who knows if those rumors are true.
Speaker 4: Let's let's let's hope that they are. Meanwhile, you've got
Speaker 4: the bombing campaign ratcheting up. You have people in Jerusalem
Speaker 4: reporting that the bombing is getting so fierce in Gaza
Speaker 4: that you can even hear it in Jerusalem. They attacked
Speaker 4: the Alli hospital, which has not just important material residents
Speaker 4: for the people who were relying on that hospital. There's
Speaker 4: all these images of people in hospital beds, getting getting
Speaker 4: the beds, leaving the hospital with nowhere to go, just
Speaker 4: patients in hospital beds now out in the street. But importantly,
Speaker 4: this was the hospital that in twenty twenty three there
Speaker 4: was this giant international conversation about whether it was Israeli
Speaker 4: bombs or a misfired Palestinian Islamic Jahad explosive remember that
Speaker 4: had killed hundreds of people at the hospital. There was
Speaker 4: a resolution on the floor of the House that passed
Speaker 4: that censured Rashida Talib for not blaming Palastinian Islami Jahad
Speaker 4: for that attack, for daring to say that Israel had
Speaker 4: attacked that hospital. She was literally censured in the house
Speaker 4: for that. And now Israel has attacked the hospital, admitted
Speaker 4: that they attacked the hospital, claimed credit like a terror
Speaker 4: group goes hospital Christian hospital on Palm Sunday. Yes, they've
Speaker 4: claimed credit for it. And it's just kind of a blip.
Speaker 3: So the thing that Rashid tell their do you think
Speaker 3: they'll tell their congregation that either next tour of Jerusalem
Speaker 3: on an End Times tour.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 4: hear that interesting. And now I think that, you know,
Speaker 4: there's efforts to get the word out to these Christian communities,
Speaker 4: and some do hear about it, and and I think
Speaker 4: it goes to your point that like the erosion of
Speaker 4: support for Israel is just yeah.
Speaker 1: But I mean I made that group absolutely, and that's
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 4: They're hard core Zionis to anybody else.
Speaker 3: And you know, the funny thing is the Israeli state
Speaker 3: cultivates the ship out of them because they think they're crazy.
Speaker 3: If you go over there and you talk to them,
Speaker 3: they're like, we can't even believe these idiots are so
Speaker 3: pro they think they think they're a joke. They're like
Speaker 3: cosmopolitan Israeli elites who think that these rapture evangelical apocalyptic
Speaker 3: people are genuinely nuts, like because they look at them
Speaker 3: the way that like New York City elites look at
Speaker 3: you know, evangelical Christians, and that's how they say. But
Speaker 3: they also recognize that they're deeply politically important, and that's
Speaker 3: why they support all of these like Pastor Hagey Kufi
Speaker 3: groups all across it. They know where their bread is
Speaker 3: buttered politically and the center of gravity. I do wonder,
Speaker 3: you know, for these tours, have you ever been in Israel?
Speaker 1: These people are everywhere.
Speaker 3: Like if you're if you're flying from America, guarantee you
Speaker 3: there's going to be a bunch of evangelicals on your
Speaker 3: flight going to see the Holy Land. But the thing is, though,
Speaker 3: with the proximity, especially when you're in Jerusalem, if you've
Speaker 3: ever been there, it's pretty close. You know, you can
Speaker 3: see Palestine literally your own eyes the wall. At a
Speaker 3: certain point, aren't you going to be able to hear
Speaker 3: some of the war and that going on. I genuinely
Speaker 3: wonder about that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, for sure, maybe it'll change some attitudes,
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 4: So let's move over to two major developments on the
Speaker 4: deportation front. On the two different wings of the kind
Speaker 4: of deportation. There's the there's the political wing, which is
Speaker 4: rounding up students and others who are critical of Israel
Speaker 4: and detaining them and deporting them. And then there's the
Speaker 4: case of the Venezuelans sent down to Boo Kelly's torture
Speaker 4: chamber down in El Salvador. So let's start with start
Speaker 4: with that one. So put up this first element. He
Speaker 4: on's the So the Trump administrator has now responded to this, uh,
Speaker 4: this judicial order from the Supreme Court that said the
Speaker 4: Trump administration had to quote facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia,
Speaker 4: which is kill Marrol Berger. This is the man that
Speaker 4: people hate when you call him a Maryland father, I
Speaker 4: don't I don't know what you want to call him,
Speaker 4: a construction worker who live in Maryland and.
Speaker 1: His president in the United States.
Speaker 3: He had a deportation hold on him, so he cannot
Speaker 3: be held sent to Salvador. It was sent to El Salvador.
Speaker 3: The administration admitted they act quote mistakenly sent him.
Speaker 4: To and then the administration fired the DOJ attorney who
Speaker 4: admitted that. And so now they are saying, and it's
Speaker 4: an it's an interesting argument that to grapple with because
Speaker 4: of the separation of powers question. So what they're saying
Speaker 4: is that he is now in the sovereign custody of
Speaker 4: Naya Bukelly and El Salvador, and that no judge can
Speaker 4: order an executive, the executive to make any engagement when
Speaker 4: it comes to foreign policy with any sovereign country, that
Speaker 4: that is the sole discretion of the executive. It raises,
Speaker 4: of course, extremely uncomfortable questions, what like just just to
Speaker 4: go to the like to take it to an absurd degree.
Speaker 4: If Trump picked up Soda Mayor and sent her to
Speaker 4: bu Kelly's prison and the Supreme Court was like, you
Speaker 4: cannot pick up a Supreme Court justice and send them
Speaker 4: to a prison in El Salvador. You need to facilitate
Speaker 4: her return, the Trump administration would make the same argument, Well,
Speaker 4: look doesn't matter how how they got there, you don't
Speaker 4: have the power to do that. I don't don't I
Speaker 4: don't like it's like this is.
Speaker 3: Currently being this is currently being litigated at the district
Speaker 3: cordgin No. Look, Brian, you're right, all right, and people
Speaker 3: it's probably important for people to hear me even say it.
Speaker 3: If you mistakenly deport somebody and then you house them
Speaker 3: in the custody of a foreign government, and you pay
Speaker 3: that foreign government to house that person, and then you
Speaker 3: claim that they're in the sovereign custody of that other country. Yeah, okay, yes,
Speaker 3: said the stress should not have deported him. So it's
Speaker 3: a little bit different than if he had been Let's
Speaker 3: say he had traveled to El Salvador by himself and
Speaker 3: the L. Salvador Is put him in prison and he's
Speaker 3: an L. Salvadorans citizen. Okay, whatever, right, not whatever, but
Speaker 3: for him, But what are you going to do about it?
Speaker 3: All right, pretty different story. Facilitate his return, as you said.
Speaker 3: They are saying, yeah, if the L. Salvadorians ever let
Speaker 3: him out, then sure we need to allow him back
Speaker 3: in the United States. That's basically the crux of their
Speaker 3: argument at the current districtort level. However, people should remember
Speaker 3: this does not just end right here. There will continue
Speaker 3: to work this way through the legal process for that
Speaker 3: definition of what facilitate means. And in fact I was
Speaker 3: speaking with the CA front court watchers and others on this,
Speaker 3: and they are specifically saying that this payment notion, that
Speaker 3: that is the crux of the art, that's really the
Speaker 3: Achilles heel. The reason legally why the administration needs to
Speaker 3: fight so hard on this is that if you release
Speaker 3: one person, you actually show and admit that it's not
Speaker 3: in the custody of solely of the El Salvatorian government,
Speaker 3: that it is in the United States government, and that
Speaker 3: leads to more court challenges ACLU challenge than others. Let's say,
Speaker 3: over that makeup artist, right who we had previously seen,
Speaker 3: and it opens the legal ground to.
Speaker 4: All of this question the soccer player we've talked about,
Speaker 4: that you talked about totally.
Speaker 3: It's very obvious that the administrator, Look, they are terrified
Speaker 3: of some I've used raised this of somebody coming back.
Speaker 3: I think most what they're terrified of is admitting that
Speaker 3: they did something wrong, because when you admit that you
Speaker 3: did something wrong, then I mean, look, there are a
Speaker 3: lot of people who still they don't know about any
Speaker 3: of this case, right and on in space. A lot
Speaker 3: of people who support massky board it whatever are looking
Speaker 3: at this and be like, yeah, okay, you know this
Speaker 3: makes sense or whatever worse to the worst, and they're
Speaker 3: taking the administration's word for it. The thing is now
Speaker 3: the administration, in the same way that they have on tariffs,
Speaker 3: is now showing this on immigration. So we previously saw
Speaker 3: that MS thirteen East Coast gang leader, right who was
Speaker 3: allegedly this horrible human trafficker drug you know, drug paraphernalia,
Speaker 3: et cetera. They're dropped, they got a gun, slapped him
Speaker 3: with a gun charge, and now they're just okay, we're
Speaker 3: gonna deport him. Tell Salvador fine. I mean, okay, you
Speaker 3: know guy had a gun illegally, definitely in crime. Why
Speaker 3: was the governor of Virginia there and the Secretary of
Speaker 3: Homeland Security. So what's happened is just a low level
Speaker 3: gang member and you know, this entire thing is made up.
Speaker 3: Same with a lot of the case here we've seen
Speaker 3: around the tattoos, et cetera. I mean again, you know,
Speaker 3: to be totally honest, like never in my wildest dream,
Speaker 3: so I think that anybody could ever be so stupid
Speaker 3: as to use the process currently right now, that's on me.
Speaker 1: So everyone gets dunk on me if they want to.
Speaker 3: But that's just you can see pretty clearly as more
Speaker 3: information has come out, not only in El Salvador, what
Speaker 3: let's continue this, what we're about to get to with
Speaker 3: the mock mood Khalil situation with this this woman who
Speaker 3: is now yet go ahead, you can set it up.
Speaker 1: This is an example of what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: And you know, just a resurrect again a Vietnam era
Speaker 3: term credibility gap. That was a term that became widespread
Speaker 3: during the Lennon Johnson administration where very similarly the American
Speaker 3: strusted with the government, that trusted the government about what
Speaker 3: they were saying around in this case immigration at that
Speaker 3: time about Vietnam. But the more lies got exposed, the
Speaker 3: more that the default assumption was you are lying to
Speaker 3: me now became baked into the America right.
Speaker 4: And just people who supported that general policy assumed there
Speaker 4: was some level of due diligence that's correcting being put
Speaker 4: into this and so that and it appears that there
Speaker 4: is very little so we can put up E two
Speaker 4: on the Streen. This is a big Washington Post scoop
Speaker 4: that came out last night where a memo leaked out
Speaker 4: of the State Department that said, Okay, you asked us
Speaker 4: to look into Rumesa os Turk, who is a tough
Speaker 4: graduate student, to see whether or not she had done
Speaker 4: anything that would that we could even remotely link to
Speaker 4: saying that she supported Hamas. And if you look at
Speaker 4: makmu Khalil, who was there's nothing out there where they
Speaker 4: have found there where he has said anything that would
Speaker 4: that could be construed as supporting Hamas. Like it's just
Speaker 4: it's just not out there yet. They're yet they're clinging
Speaker 4: to that because he participated in some of these protests
Speaker 4: where there there were some signs at the protests that
Speaker 4: could be construed in that direction, and so he was
Speaker 4: in the same vicinity. So that's got him, got him there, Okay,
Speaker 4: So that's their bar. That's how low their bar is.
Speaker 4: They couldn't even clear that bar for her. The only
Speaker 4: thing that we have publicly seen, uh, and that they've
Speaker 4: been able to dig up because they've got Canary Mission
Speaker 4: and all these other Zionis organizations who have enormous amount
Speaker 4: of resources to spend in betstigating these students. If they've
Speaker 4: if they tweeted anything in twenty ten or twenty eleven,
Speaker 4: and even in support of like a flotilla bringing aid
Speaker 4: into Gaza, like we would know this about Roumes Ozturk.
Speaker 4: They have an op ed on which she was one
Speaker 4: of four co authors, that was published in her student newspaper,
Speaker 4: that was in support of a student Senate resolution that passed.
Speaker 4: So like that means like the entire student Senate is
Speaker 4: supportive of Hamas if these claims are true. And if
Speaker 4: you read the actual op ed, there's a ton in
Speaker 4: it that Hamas would not agree with. Like it's it's
Speaker 4: not a remotely Hama supporting op ed. It's just it's
Speaker 4: talking about equality in Israel, and it's kind of critical
Speaker 4: of the way that Israel is conducting. It's it's genocide.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't even know if they use I
Speaker 4: don't even remember if they use the word genocide. And
Speaker 4: it's a very it's a very yeah. People go go
Speaker 4: go look up us Herk's op ed. So that's the one.
Speaker 4: So that's it turns out, according to the State Department,
Speaker 4: which which looked closely at her case, that's all. They
Speaker 4: had nothing else, and they told they said there is
Speaker 4: no evidence that we can provide to Marco Rubio to
Speaker 4: justify a claim that she is encouraging anti Semitism, by
Speaker 4: which they mean, you know, uh, significantly critical of Israel,
Speaker 4: or or that she is supportive of a terrorist organization.
Speaker 4: We don't. The goods are not there. That memo was
Speaker 4: in the custody of the State Department, produced by State
Speaker 4: Department officials, and they went and grabbed her off the
Speaker 4: streets of Summerville, Massachusetts. Anyway, you've seen that. I guarantee
Speaker 4: you that you've seen clips of yeah, yeah, this horrifying
Speaker 4: Somewhere You've got these like playing closed schoons pulling up
Speaker 4: in the SUVs and and and dragging her away. That
Speaker 4: was a pretty long time ago. Time kind of blends
Speaker 4: together here. She has not been deported like she is
Speaker 4: living in some deplorable conditions right now in immigration detention.
Speaker 4: And this is a person who, according to a State
Speaker 4: Department investigation, did nothing and I don't want to say wrong,
Speaker 4: because it's not actually wrong to criticize Israel, but they
Speaker 4: didn't do anything that even Marco Rubio's unconstitutional bar that
Speaker 4: he has set an unconstitutional according to federal Judge Mary Trump,
Speaker 4: like she didn't even do that, and currently she's deprived
Speaker 4: of her freedom. Currently is a political prisoner sitting behind
Speaker 4: bars in a detention center awaiting some sort of some
Speaker 4: sort of adjudication of this case that's been brought against.
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is even quote Tucks Friends of
Speaker 3: Israel says, we strongly oppose the co of the op
Speaker 3: ed that Oscar co authored, but restricting freedom of speech
Speaker 3: is flat out undemocratic and Unamerican. Freedom of speech in
Speaker 3: a democracy is sacred. It ensures that descent is heard
Speaker 3: and that people can express themselves. That's the tough Friends
Speaker 3: of Israel argument. They did say genocide. By the way,
Speaker 3: I just look at I mean, you can say whatever
Speaker 3: you want, okay, even.
Speaker 1: If whatever it's not a verboten word, right shall we? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean, even looking at this entire case and the
Speaker 3: background within it, you would assume, again you can donekull
Speaker 3: me if you want. You would assume, let's say, if
Speaker 3: you were to deport somebody Ryan and you don't support
Speaker 3: this policy and neither do it. But we were to
Speaker 3: deport foreign students who participated anti Israel activism, where do
Speaker 3: we start?
Speaker 1: We start with people who committed a crime.
Speaker 3: Right, I would look at that Hamilton Hall thing, anybody
Speaker 3: who was charged with the crime. And this is again
Speaker 3: I don't don't support this policy, but that's where I
Speaker 3: would start. Who could argue against that?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: You could say, oh, it's not you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: rise to the bar whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't really legally if you commit a
Speaker 4: crime and you're here on visa, you got dead to right,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be surprising for people who it would.
Speaker 3: Not be surprising to people that's exactly right. But they
Speaker 3: start with Khalil for reason I think at this point
Speaker 3: we can only exclude well, yeah, they thought he was
Speaker 3: on a visa.
Speaker 1: They thought he was on a visa. There's number one.
Speaker 3: But two is also you start with somebody who, in
Speaker 3: a certain way is much more unimpeachable than you know,
Speaker 3: the Hamilton All person as just a signal of like,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't even be doing this right, And actually, I mean,
Speaker 3: I know people may get upset about this. Would I
Speaker 3: find the most objectionable is the government taking over the
Speaker 3: Columbia University Mental Eastern Studies Department at Harvard and getting
Speaker 3: is a United States citizens expelled from a university because
Speaker 3: of something that they said, I mean, these are citizens
Speaker 3: of the United States of America who played presumably good
Speaker 3: money to attend a private university and are then being
Speaker 3: expelled from that institution and having their education taken over
Speaker 3: by the government here specifically on behalf of a foreign
Speaker 3: government to teach what I mean, what are the terms
Speaker 3: now that are banned at Columbia University? Like what Middle
Speaker 3: Eastern studies? What national interests do we have here that
Speaker 3: Americans sufficiently you know bow down to the State of
Speaker 3: Israel in private university Ivy League education or or is
Speaker 3: it all a power play to show is like, hey,
Speaker 3: you should not be messing with I mean, really, this
Speaker 3: is like Bill Ackman and the Zionist you know, pro
Speaker 3: Israel lobbies, like this is their fever dream, This is
Speaker 3: their wet dream, like come to life. Is literally taking
Speaker 3: over the institutions which they see as theirs and making
Speaker 3: them sufficiently pro zero and making sure that there is
Speaker 3: no dissent there at all. And the fact that it's
Speaker 3: done on behalf of a foreign government is just honestly
Speaker 3: makes it for me ten times worse. You can even
Speaker 3: understand in the past Vietnam censorship or World War two
Speaker 3: or any of that. That's totally that is within the
Speaker 3: bounds not of acceptability, but of understanding about how a
Speaker 3: nation grappling with an internal crisis.
Speaker 1: But this is not even close to that.
Speaker 4: And we can't afford this right now. Meanwhile, foreign tourism
Speaker 4: is plummeting. The bar is the line is going straight down.
Speaker 4: It's like thirty down, thirty forty percent, but it's no
Speaker 4: sign of what the bottom could actually be. I saw
Speaker 4: somebody saying, well, it's only point four to two percent
Speaker 4: of GDP. It's like, bro, do you understand how bigo
Speaker 4: point four to two percent of GDP is. If you
Speaker 4: shave that off, that that could take you from GDP growth,
Speaker 4: if you're close to flat to recession territory. And it's
Speaker 4: not just that point four too. Yes, that's the direct result.
Speaker 4: But everybody who works in that industry, they pay rent.
Speaker 4: They some some send their kids to private school. You know,
Speaker 4: they go to the grocery store, they buy things. Now
Speaker 4: they're not paying their rent. Now the landlord is going
Speaker 4: to foreclose on that. Just like there's a ripple effects
Speaker 4: throughout the economy. So taking a half point of GDP
Speaker 4: and just saying no, thank you to it is huge.
Speaker 4: And that doesn't even count the foreign students who sull
Speaker 4: and we aren't argued about this before, but the foreign
Speaker 4: students spend billions and billions of dollars in this country
Speaker 4: propping up the economies of the neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree.
Speaker 3: I've just said before I think it's a bad financing
Speaker 3: system while you're also relying on a mayor. I mean,
Speaker 3: for example, I think there was like forty five thousand
Speaker 3: graduate students who are foreign who were admitted to some
Speaker 3: of these But you might say, oh, okay, that's great,
Speaker 3: and it's like yeah, but they also a four percent
Speaker 3: acceptance rate. And part of the reason why a lot
Speaker 3: of these people do get admitted is because they pay
Speaker 3: full free. I think that's actively discriminatory against US citizens.
Speaker 3: I would be happy to reform it with you Ryan
Speaker 3: about But is this the solution? Yeah, I would say no,
Speaker 3: I don't think that this is the overall solution to this.
Speaker 3: So unfortunately, I mean, we are now in the clown
Speaker 3: show where what Khalil has been greenland for deportation.
Speaker 1: It's going to happen.
Speaker 4: It looks like we'll see. Yeah, So Friday, the Immigration
Speaker 4: Court judge ruled that he could be deported. He still
Speaker 4: has a habeas petition in front of the federal court.
Speaker 4: So his lawyers are very country. So he's his parents
Speaker 4: are His mother is from Algeria, so he has Algerian citizenship.
Speaker 4: He also was born in Syria, but he as a
Speaker 4: Palestinian refugee and a refugee camp, so he doesn't have
Speaker 4: Syrian citizenship And what does that even mean in this
Speaker 4: al Qaeda state right now? And so, but his lawyers
Speaker 4: who I talked to over the weekend said that they
Speaker 4: expect he would be deported to one of those two countries.
Speaker 4: But one of those two countries I have to accept
Speaker 4: him because and if they don't, now Algeria might in
Speaker 4: order to kind of save him from getting sent to Syria,
Speaker 4: because Syria might be more willing to do it because
Speaker 4: you know, sur round by al Qaeda, which is our gesus.
Speaker 4: We finance them, and they're they're willing to do whatever
Speaker 4: to try to get sanctions released throughwhere else. Then he
Speaker 4: would be at serious risk if he's in Syria, Whereas
Speaker 4: the Algerians might say, if he's getting to it, will
Speaker 4: take them and maybe we can protect it.
Speaker 3: It's so funny to think about that, that he would
Speaker 3: be at serious risk in Syria because what the administration
Speaker 3: and the Posigon US people are telling us is that
Speaker 3: he's some pro terrorist sympathizer. It's like, yeah, guys, those
Speaker 3: are actual terrorists. And anybody who's been powling around with Jews,
Speaker 3: Jewish students and pro peace and all that, they're not.
Speaker 4: So happy with you.
Speaker 1: There's actual terrorists. They look at you and they yeah.
Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, there's that. Plus there's Israeli influenced in Syria. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so Algeria would be more would be more likely, But
Speaker 4: they're still fighting it and the Habeas case is still ongoing.
Speaker 4: Unless unless they just ignore it and say, you know, hey,
Speaker 4: screw you, we're just gonna shot, We're gonna ship him out,
Speaker 4: and then once he's out, there's nothing you can do
Speaker 4: about it. Yeah. Like that's like exactly what they're saying
Speaker 4: with Ambredo Garcia and we mentioned.
Speaker 3: At the top. All right, let's get to the next
Speaker 3: part here, which is about Josh Shapiro. So, as we
Speaker 3: guys said at the beginning, there was this terrible attack
Speaker 3: on Josh Shapiro, the Governor of Pennsylvania's mansion overnight where
Speaker 3: an arsonist set fire to the house while him and
Speaker 3: his family were sleeping there at two am. Now, initially
Speaker 3: there were initial reports out of this did not make
Speaker 3: it seem like it was that serious. But the photos
Speaker 3: that had come out of this are devastating. Let's go
Speaker 3: and put these up there on the screen. You can
Speaker 3: see here inside of the Governor's mansion where you know,
Speaker 3: I mean they're's burned, I mean completely too crisp, but
Speaker 3: basically went up in flames all the way to the roof.
Speaker 3: You can see there like the dining room formerly which
Speaker 3: was burned on several of the walls, wallpaper, the piano,
Speaker 3: et cetera suffering quite a bit of damage. That was
Speaker 3: a leftover sign where they had just finished passed over
Speaker 3: dinner at the Governor's mansions, had passover crafts, and you
Speaker 3: can see that it's charred there by a lot of smoke.
Speaker 3: So here's what we know so far about the suspect.
Speaker 3: Let's go put that up there on the screen please.
Speaker 1: From the ap.
Speaker 3: Suspect's name is A Cody Bomber, and Cody Bomber of Harrisburg,
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania now been arrested and charged with the attempted murder
Speaker 3: there in Arson on the Pennsylvania governor's mansion. He allegedly
Speaker 3: told allegedly told investigators that if he had been able to,
Speaker 3: he would have beat the governor with a hammer.
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about the guy. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say too much about his appearance.
Speaker 4: You can draw that he looks like a hipster.
Speaker 1: Draw conclusion from.
Speaker 3: What you will about being the light that you want
Speaker 3: to see in the world. Okay, I mean, look, let's
Speaker 3: all just remember this may not even.
Speaker 4: Be in the Mazza Molotov cocktail, like that's the lefty Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, right wingers will throw a Monotov locktail, but.
Speaker 1: Will see.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, as usual with these cases,
Speaker 3: like with the Paul Pelosi case, you know.
Speaker 4: They latch onto a politics, but ultimately they're mentally ill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, probably just schizophrenic crazy. And that's not an excuse.
Speaker 1: It's still scary what we're watching.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, in terms of trying to spin some
Speaker 3: grand political narrative, anybody who participates in something like this,
Speaker 3: they've lost it. Uh So, what we know from Cody
Speaker 3: right now is he was taken into custody, said he
Speaker 3: would have beaten Shapiro with a small sledgehammer if he'd
Speaker 3: been able to quote. Bomber had walked an hour from
Speaker 3: his home to the governor's residence. During the police interview,
Speaker 3: he admitted to harbor a hatred towards Shapiro, but did
Speaker 3: not explain why. Okay, Shapiro, his wife, his four children,
Speaker 3: two dogs, and another family were celebrating passed over at
Speaker 3: the residence and were awakened by state troopers pounding on
Speaker 3: their door about two am. They fled as firefighters extinguished
Speaker 3: the fire. Luckily nobody was injured. We don't know yet
Speaker 3: a whole.
Speaker 1: Lot about this.
Speaker 3: Authority said that Bomber is currently being transmitted transported to prison.
Speaker 1: Did not say either whether he had a lawyer currently.
Speaker 3: Like I said, he'd been listed to residence in Harrisburg
Speaker 3: as recently as twenty twenty two. But if he walked
Speaker 3: an hour to the Governor's mansion, so presumably within the
Speaker 3: Philadelphia area, right or Sorryburg?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Wait what am I thinking of? That's right now?
Speaker 3: He is in Heiresburg, right, this is where the government
Speaker 3: minister is so yeah, presumably then he's remaining in the
Speaker 3: Harrisburg area. I guess that's all we know right now,
Speaker 3: and still just I mean, it's just horrible to see
Speaker 3: not only that the damage, but just show you is
Speaker 3: much closer call than I think a lot of people
Speaker 3: initially thought. You know, it seems like e also was
Speaker 3: able to permeate. They were security perimeter and the fence, and.
Speaker 4: They said his security was like he was he was
Speaker 4: like evading security as they were like chasing him through. Wow,
Speaker 4: the mansion, I was able to.
Speaker 3: I mean, this reminds me of you remember when Obama
Speaker 3: was president and that guy leaped the fence and actually
Speaker 3: made it through the front door.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he made it pretty damn close. He made it
Speaker 1: decent far into the.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, yes, right, he did get in there. And
Speaker 4: people are finding his like social media posts and finding
Speaker 4: he's sharing like anarchist stuff. He has one joke on
Speaker 4: here where he says I'm a registered socialist. So I
Speaker 4: had gotten about twenty seven mail in ballots. It's funny
Speaker 4: joke because I got to vote for everyone twice and
Speaker 4: vote none of the above in person, plus casting a
Speaker 4: vote for my favorite Cardo.
Speaker 1: Let me know if there's any illuminati on there.
Speaker 3: That's always a fun that's always a fun classic schizophrenic.
Speaker 4: And he makes fun of Maga and oh really yeah, all.
Speaker 3: Right, well, look as again, not everything asked to be
Speaker 3: political doesn't. Maybe it's more just a garden variety insanity.
Speaker 1: Do what has happened?
Speaker 4: What you will?
Speaker 1: We do have some comments here from the governor. Let's
Speaker 1: take a lesson.
Speaker 5: We don't know the person's specific motive yet, but we
Speaker 5: do know a few truths. First, this type of violence
Speaker 5: is not okay. This kind of violence is becoming far
Speaker 5: too common in our society, and I don't give a
Speaker 5: damn if it's coming from one particular side or the other,
Speaker 5: directed it one particular party or another, or one particular
Speaker 5: person or another. It is not okay, and it has
Speaker 5: to stop. We have to be better than this. We
Speaker 5: have a responsibility to all be better.
Speaker 3: Possibly our next president there, Ryann, Governor Shapiro, don't know,
Speaker 3: as you said, we saw some of the images there
Speaker 3: of mister Cody Bomber, but that's all we really know
Speaker 3: right now. The guy's been charged tempted, you know, tumpted, homicide, arson, terrorism.
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll fad, you know, we'll see more from
Speaker 3: the investigation.
Speaker 4: Etc.
Speaker 3: As you said, he'd written and said previously that he
Speaker 3: hated the governor, but did not say why.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it could be a Matthew Crooks situation
Speaker 3: where we just never really find out very much about
Speaker 3: the guy.
Speaker 1: That's where things are. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: We do know more about him than we do about
Speaker 3: Matthew Crooks. Still an insane thing that happened in our history.
Speaker 3: But that's where things are. Obviously troubling, very very sad,
Speaker 3: and hopefully you know, the governor are pretty emotional there
Speaker 3: in his comments. But you know, glad everybody that survived
Speaker 3: and we'll see all right. Thank you guys so much
Speaker 3: for watching great bro show. Ryan always enjoy being with you.
Speaker 3: My friend christ will be here tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We will see you all then the batt