1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Saga and Crystal here. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: and we are so excited about what that means for 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: the future of this show. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 3: This is the only place where you can find honest 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: not exist anywhere else. 8 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: So if that is something that's important to you, please 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: go to Breakingpoints dot com. Become a member today and 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: you'll access to our full shows, unedited, ad free, and 11 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: all put together for you every morning in your inbox. 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: We need your help to build the future of independent 13 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: news media and we hope to see you at Breakingpoints 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: dot com. 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 4: Over the weekend, the US began direct negotiations with Iran. 16 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 4: In Ohman, we can put this first element up on 17 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 4: the screen. Interview that Witcoff did with the Wall Street 18 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 4: Journal has a bunch of people angry because he laid 19 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 4: out what the US negotiating position is in these upcoming 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: talks with Iran, which will now proceed to Rome next, 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: which we'll talk about in a moment, and effectively, what 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: he said is that the red line for the US 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 4: is weaponization of the nuclear program, and what that means 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 4: is that the US would be comfortable with a civilian 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 4: nuclear program, which is, you know, effectively the nuclear deal 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: that Obama and the Europeans in Russia made with Iran 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: back in twenty fifteen, the jc POA which Trump subsequently 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: walked away from. So that has we can put this 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 4: next tweet up on the screen. This is this is 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 4: from and they scooped this. This is if you're if 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: you want to follow this closely, this is called homwaj 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 4: It's homwatched op media. They have very deep sources kind 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: of within the Iranian government. So you obviously you want 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 4: to take anything you hear from any government officials with 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: a grain of salt. But if you're if you want 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: to know how Iranian sources are receiving their end of 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: the negotiations, homwag is really good at this. They were 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: the first that I saw to report that Witkof had 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: come in with some level of humility and had not 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: come in demanding, as the Iranians wondered, if he would 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 4: the complete dismantlement of the entire not just that r program. 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Quote. 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 3: Senior Iranian political sources said that whit cost draft neither 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: contained explicit threats of a military attack Iran has strongly 45 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: rejected any Libya style dismantling of his nuclear program and 46 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: has urged Trump to stop his threats. 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is again obvious. 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: Let's just remember the history here is that anybody in 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: the Middle East, anybody in the world, if you have 50 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: a nuclear program and America's like, you should give up 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: that nuclear program, your obvious answer should be no. 52 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Look what you guys did to Gadafi. How you would 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: be an idiot to give it up. 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: It's the only security that you have. That's why the 55 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: relations with the North Koreans continue to stall. We have 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: this fantasy that once you develop an ICBM capable of 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: destroying Los Angeles, so you're going to voluntarily give it up, 58 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: especially when you're the Kim regime and you still have 59 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: total control over the entire country. It's not happening. You're like, 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: this is the only guarantee of my entire security. Now, 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: the Iranians obviously aren't there, but to give up the 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: infrastructure for their own security and legitimacy, it would be preposterous. 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: And that's why that's why the pros or A lobby's 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: freaking out, because they know they know that. 65 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: It's a non starter. 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: And they want that to be the only condition of 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: negotiation between Steve wick Coffe, the United States and Iran, and. 68 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 4: Israel keeps Israeli policymakers keep referring to what they want 69 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: as a Libya style deal. No, they keep using the 70 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: phrase Libya. And anybody who uses the phrase Libya style 71 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: deal in these talks is very directly trying to blow 72 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 4: up the talks. Because imagine you're on the receiving end 73 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: of that offer and somebody says, what I'd like to 74 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: offer you is a Libya style deal, and you use 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: those words. What happened to Kadafi. He gave up his 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: nuclear weapons and subsequently was sodomized to death, literally literally 77 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: literally on camera, sodomized to death. That is a Libya 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: style deal. And that is what people here who are 79 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: Runnian leadership or anywhere else, or North Korea, anywhere else. 80 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: When when you say that, because you're not even trying 81 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: to sugarcoat it at all, because you there are a 82 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: lot of different phrases you could use, and Libya's style, 83 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: uh is a choice treat of parts. You can put 84 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: up this next elements. He's highlighting uh, He's highlighting this 85 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 4: massive kind of bubbling up of a campaign that is 86 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 4: very predictably now coming. For Witcough, they got his They 87 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: got his man, Adam Bowler, who Jared Kushner's roommate. Because 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 4: Bowler not only met directly with Hamas, that wasn't the 89 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: problem because that was approved by Trump. He's he went 90 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: on TV and said. 91 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: That I dared to say that the US US that 92 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: his great flaw and flubb. 93 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: You know, the only reason they can't screw Wickcoff is 94 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: because Wickoff has been Trump's friend for like fifty years. 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: And also Wickoff, I mean, let's really ruminate in this too, 96 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: because I think this is very important. 97 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: It maybe relates to a certain debate. 98 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: That Wassauger is talking. You can roll a few more 99 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: of these, Just roll. 100 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: Roll more of these, a better out of Steve Wickcoff. 101 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 3: We just had a whole little debate on a certain 102 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: platform with a certain person around expertise. And you know, 103 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: Steve Wikoff is a New York City real estate developer 104 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: who built the Fountain Blue casino in Las Vegas and 105 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: has already succeeded in more diplomatic achievement in eighty four 106 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: days of the Trump administration than Anthony Blincoln did in 107 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: four years, and then Jake Sullivan did in twelve years 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: in power. Then so many career politicians did over a 109 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: twenty year period, like Brett McGirk, who have all been 110 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: working on all these And it is solely because of 111 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: his effectiveness that these pro Israel folks are all attacking. 112 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: As you guys just saw, the Israel lobby is absolutely 113 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: losing it, specifically because they know that any engagement on 114 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: terms with Iran that do not begin with the total 115 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 3: dismantling is itself a threat to the stated goals of 116 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: the net and Yahoo government, who believes that overthrow of 117 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: the Iranian regime is not only an imperative for Israel, 118 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 3: but that the United States must be a precipiting force 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: to be able to do that for them, not that 120 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: they themselves are obviously militarily even capable of it. And 121 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: that is why the war is currently happening over our 122 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: own politics right now. 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: And let's not forget too. 124 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: Wikkoff is not He is not like he's done very 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: well and he's not been fired or anything like that. However, 126 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: the pro Israel forces can move in at any time. 127 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: He successfully negotiated that ceasefire. Ryan, it actually looks like 128 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: phase two. I wouldn't say it was likely, it was possible, 129 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: let's say within the realm twenty percent, thirty percent. Well, 130 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 3: they successfully killed that BB, and then they got Trump 131 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: to this whole colonized God is a thing BB. Currently 132 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: apparently behind the scenes, the Israelis are freaking out over 133 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 3: these current deals. I would not put it past them 134 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: any anything is still possible for them to derail these talks, 135 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: to do something, you know, to try and elevate the 136 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: more Adelson and other friendly elements of the administration. So 137 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: for every one step that Steve wid Coff takes, they 138 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: could always take five steps back. 139 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: Wick Cooff is getting a little bit of defense. We 140 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: can put up D four here. 141 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: I sound like a maga thing. 142 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: Laura Lumer came out and, you know, basically saying, look, 143 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: wick Coff has gotten more done than any of these 144 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: clown bureaucrats have in many years. And then Marco Rubio 145 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: quote tweeted Laura Lumer and with the one hundred percent. 146 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: By the way, you know, Elon also supported Steve woodk Coff, 147 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: which is, you know, these are all good things at 148 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: least for us right now. 149 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, like I did he lift a Lumor tweet? 150 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: Because aren't they were beef? 151 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: I think he replied to Lumer. 152 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Elon was like Steve wood Coff is a is 153 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: a great guy. I know this all sounds preposterous to 154 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: say that, you know, Marco Rubio is quant to be 155 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: dating a Laura lumer or, but it does show that 156 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: there is confidence and they're trying. 157 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: So she got a bunch of. 158 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: People fired recently. Marco Rubio is like she did, I'm 159 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: with her. 160 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: Exactly right, You're right. 161 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: And what we know from all of this is that 162 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: the pro Israel lobby is currently out for blood. They've 163 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: taken two massivels recently in the last week. Number one 164 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: most important is this Iran negotiation. I would actually say 165 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: the Douglas Murray thing is also a secondary one. That 166 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: was their best advocate going forward on the biggest platform 167 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: with an actual skeptic in a real debate. 168 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 4: They dragged into Gaza, like if you're a Western journalist, 169 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: you cannot get into Gaza. They put a fake press 170 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: vest on him and then and allowed him to be 171 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: escorted into Gaza where he sat down in like the 172 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: chair where Sinwar was killed. So that's their guy. Yeah, 173 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: that they put their champion on the field. 174 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 3: They literally but that is their champion. And so you know, 175 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: they've taken a huge hit in the propaganda war. They've 176 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: taken a big hit here with the Trump administration. In 177 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: some ways, Trump is the only person who could get 178 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: away with this because he's simultaneously is like deporting these 179 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: pro Palestinian students, uh, you know, and others, and so 180 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: they're they're like beating their chest, going rabbit over that, 181 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: but at the same time they're taking a massive foreign 182 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: policy loss. 183 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: So I don't know what. Oh I said that the 184 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: two l's was Iron Deal and Douglas Murtin. Oh, those 185 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: are the two. 186 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 4: Just love that. 187 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds funny, but I honestly don't think 188 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: it is that has been watched by millions of people 189 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: or listen to by a lot that Honestly, if you're 190 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: an average person, you don't have that much exposure Israel 191 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: Pala sign and you just clock in and that's what 192 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 3: you get. I mean, think about it like that is 193 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: the average Joe. That is probably as close as they're 194 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: going to get to listening to a debate on the 195 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: subject that I don't think it went that well for him. 196 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: No, you would. You would come out of that with 197 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: a deep contempt for contempt to people who have contempt for. 198 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: You, yet they do have contempt for you. It's actually true. Yeah, 199 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: oh my expertise and yeah, literally are in town. Yes, 200 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: it's important to note just that on all fronts, there 201 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: is there's a lot of confounding information around the Iran 202 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: Deal and any potentials. 203 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: Just don't forget that. 204 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 3: While yes, I think all of this is working in 205 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 3: the right direction, I absolutely want to commend the Trump 206 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 3: administration for even attempting this something that Biden. Let's remember 207 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: the Biden administration never even got to this point right here. 208 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: Not even once. 209 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: And in fact, what was Ryan wasn't the DNC platform 210 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 3: Didn't it repudiate the Iran Deal in twenty twenty four 211 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: if I'm recalling it, had there was some talk in 212 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 3: the platform specifically about the overthrow or something of like they. 213 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: Actually became more neil went, they went back, yeah direction, 214 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: and then never, Yeah, they never made any serious effort 215 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: to try to get back into the Iran deal. And yeah, yeah, 216 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 4: here we are, and you put up d D five 217 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: the final element here just to support my claim that 218 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: I'm watch just place to go if you want to 219 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: get early news day. So they were the first to 220 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: report that the next would probably move to Europe. Subsequently, 221 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 4: after this reporting, it's now been confirmed in Barack Revide 222 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: was the first to confirm it that the next round 223 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 4: of talks will be in Rome. One that I heard 224 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 4: is that this will want that A piece of this 225 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: is that it's shorter distance for Wiccough to travel. He's 226 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 4: a busy man, so having it in Europe rather than 227 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: constantly over somewhere in the Middle East makes it easier 228 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: for the US negotiators, which is kind of silly on 229 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: the way hand, but also suggests that they're pretty serious 230 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: about like wanting this to happen pretty frequently so that 231 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 4: he can come that he can so that he can 232 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: come regularly to these talks and try to actually make 233 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: progress and get this thing done, because it actually it does. 234 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 4: It is different, and you know, you've done a lot 235 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: of travel. Your week is much different if you go 236 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: to Roman back then if you go to Oman and back. 237 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. 238 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. And by the way, in mind, if 239 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: you're also trying to bring Sees the fire back to 240 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: Gaza like, well, go ahead, No, I know, I was. 241 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: Just going to say, I think this is all This 242 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: is all good. We see development of more talks. Oman 243 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: has always been a meeting point for the US and 244 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: for Iran. The what is it the Sultan? I think 245 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: there you want to They're like, yeah, no, we're not 246 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: doing that. And why would you if you were the Ariots, 247 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to fly to I wouldn't want to 248 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: fly to the UA. Just broadly, I do think that 249 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: the overall engagement here is good. You will all need 250 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: to watch carefully. We can easily see a Bowler style sidelining. 251 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 3: Wick Coff is on the tightest balancing beam that there 252 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: is in all of US politics. The pro Israel lobby 253 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 3: is gunning for him more than any other figure in 254 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: the Trump administration, and they have successfully sidelined every single 255 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: other person who has dared to even suggest negotiation. And 256 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: of course they got their greatest victory in the ongoing 257 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: continuing war with Gaza. 258 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: So not a win yet. Things are currently in a 259 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: good direction. 260 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: But they could be derailed at any point right and still, 261 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 4: the complete blockade of humanitarian goods going into Gaza has 262 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: gone now from March second to it's now a fourteenth. 263 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: You can only begin to imagine, like what it's like 264 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 4: when you have two million people who have not been 265 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: resupplied for six weeks and the level. There are rumors 266 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 4: going around Gaza that the that the crossings would open 267 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: today or tomorrow. Who knows if those rumors are true. 268 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 4: Let's let's let's hope that they are. Meanwhile, you've got 269 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: the bombing campaign ratcheting up. You have people in Jerusalem 270 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: reporting that the bombing is getting so fierce in Gaza 271 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: that you can even hear it in Jerusalem. They attacked 272 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: the Alli hospital, which has not just important material residents 273 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 4: for the people who were relying on that hospital. There's 274 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 4: all these images of people in hospital beds, getting getting 275 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: the beds, leaving the hospital with nowhere to go, just 276 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: patients in hospital beds now out in the street. But importantly, 277 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: this was the hospital that in twenty twenty three there 278 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 4: was this giant international conversation about whether it was Israeli 279 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: bombs or a misfired Palestinian Islamic Jahad explosive remember that 280 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: had killed hundreds of people at the hospital. There was 281 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: a resolution on the floor of the House that passed 282 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: that censured Rashida Talib for not blaming Palastinian Islami Jahad 283 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: for that attack, for daring to say that Israel had 284 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: attacked that hospital. She was literally censured in the house 285 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: for that. And now Israel has attacked the hospital, admitted 286 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: that they attacked the hospital, claimed credit like a terror 287 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: group goes hospital Christian hospital on Palm Sunday. Yes, they've 288 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: claimed credit for it. And it's just kind of a blip. 289 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: So the thing that Rashid tell their do you think 290 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: they'll tell their congregation that either next tour of Jerusalem 291 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: on an End Times tour. 292 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna. I don't think they're gonna 293 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: hear that interesting. And now I think that, you know, 294 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: there's efforts to get the word out to these Christian communities, 295 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: and some do hear about it, and and I think 296 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: it goes to your point that like the erosion of 297 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: support for Israel is just yeah. 298 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: But I mean I made that group absolutely, and that's 299 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: the thing. 300 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: They're hard core Zionis to anybody else. 301 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: And you know, the funny thing is the Israeli state 302 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: cultivates the ship out of them because they think they're crazy. 303 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: If you go over there and you talk to them, 304 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: they're like, we can't even believe these idiots are so 305 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: pro they think they think they're a joke. They're like 306 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: cosmopolitan Israeli elites who think that these rapture evangelical apocalyptic 307 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: people are genuinely nuts, like because they look at them 308 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: the way that like New York City elites look at 309 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: you know, evangelical Christians, and that's how they say. But 310 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: they also recognize that they're deeply politically important, and that's 311 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: why they support all of these like Pastor Hagey Kufi 312 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: groups all across it. They know where their bread is 313 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: buttered politically and the center of gravity. I do wonder, 314 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: you know, for these tours, have you ever been in Israel? 315 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: These people are everywhere. 316 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: Like if you're if you're flying from America, guarantee you 317 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: there's going to be a bunch of evangelicals on your 318 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: flight going to see the Holy Land. But the thing is, though, 319 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: with the proximity, especially when you're in Jerusalem, if you've 320 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: ever been there, it's pretty close. You know, you can 321 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: see Palestine literally your own eyes the wall. At a 322 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: certain point, aren't you going to be able to hear 323 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: some of the war and that going on. I genuinely 324 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: wonder about that. 325 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, for sure, maybe it'll change some attitudes, 326 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't think. 327 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: So let's move over to two major developments on the 328 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 4: deportation front. On the two different wings of the kind 329 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: of deportation. There's the there's the political wing, which is 330 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 4: rounding up students and others who are critical of Israel 331 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: and detaining them and deporting them. And then there's the 332 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: case of the Venezuelans sent down to Boo Kelly's torture 333 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: chamber down in El Salvador. So let's start with start 334 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: with that one. So put up this first element. He 335 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: on's the So the Trump administrator has now responded to this, uh, 336 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: this judicial order from the Supreme Court that said the 337 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: Trump administration had to quote facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia, 338 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: which is kill Marrol Berger. This is the man that 339 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: people hate when you call him a Maryland father, I 340 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: don't I don't know what you want to call him, 341 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 4: a construction worker who live in Maryland and. 342 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: His president in the United States. 343 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: He had a deportation hold on him, so he cannot 344 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: be held sent to Salvador. It was sent to El Salvador. 345 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: The administration admitted they act quote mistakenly sent him. 346 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: To and then the administration fired the DOJ attorney who 347 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: admitted that. And so now they are saying, and it's 348 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: an it's an interesting argument that to grapple with because 349 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: of the separation of powers question. So what they're saying 350 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 4: is that he is now in the sovereign custody of 351 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: Naya Bukelly and El Salvador, and that no judge can 352 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: order an executive, the executive to make any engagement when 353 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 4: it comes to foreign policy with any sovereign country, that 354 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: that is the sole discretion of the executive. It raises, 355 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: of course, extremely uncomfortable questions, what like just just to 356 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: go to the like to take it to an absurd degree. 357 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: If Trump picked up Soda Mayor and sent her to 358 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: bu Kelly's prison and the Supreme Court was like, you 359 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 4: cannot pick up a Supreme Court justice and send them 360 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 4: to a prison in El Salvador. You need to facilitate 361 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: her return, the Trump administration would make the same argument, Well, 362 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: look doesn't matter how how they got there, you don't 363 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: have the power to do that. I don't don't I 364 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: don't like it's like this is. 365 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: Currently being this is currently being litigated at the district 366 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: cordgin No. Look, Brian, you're right, all right, and people 367 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: it's probably important for people to hear me even say it. 368 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: If you mistakenly deport somebody and then you house them 369 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: in the custody of a foreign government, and you pay 370 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: that foreign government to house that person, and then you 371 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: claim that they're in the sovereign custody of that other country. Yeah, okay, yes, 372 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: said the stress should not have deported him. So it's 373 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: a little bit different than if he had been Let's 374 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: say he had traveled to El Salvador by himself and 375 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: the L. Salvador Is put him in prison and he's 376 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: an L. Salvadorans citizen. Okay, whatever, right, not whatever, but 377 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: for him, But what are you going to do about it? 378 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: All right, pretty different story. Facilitate his return, as you said. 379 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: They are saying, yeah, if the L. Salvadorians ever let 380 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 3: him out, then sure we need to allow him back 381 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 3: in the United States. That's basically the crux of their 382 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: argument at the current districtort level. However, people should remember 383 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: this does not just end right here. There will continue 384 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: to work this way through the legal process for that 385 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: definition of what facilitate means. And in fact I was 386 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: speaking with the CA front court watchers and others on this, 387 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: and they are specifically saying that this payment notion, that 388 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: that is the crux of the art, that's really the 389 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: Achilles heel. The reason legally why the administration needs to 390 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: fight so hard on this is that if you release 391 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: one person, you actually show and admit that it's not 392 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: in the custody of solely of the El Salvatorian government, 393 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: that it is in the United States government, and that 394 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: leads to more court challenges ACLU challenge than others. Let's say, 395 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: over that makeup artist, right who we had previously seen, 396 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: and it opens the legal ground to. 397 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: All of this question the soccer player we've talked about, 398 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 4: that you talked about totally. 399 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: It's very obvious that the administrator, Look, they are terrified 400 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: of some I've used raised this of somebody coming back. 401 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: I think most what they're terrified of is admitting that 402 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: they did something wrong, because when you admit that you 403 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: did something wrong, then I mean, look, there are a 404 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: lot of people who still they don't know about any 405 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: of this case, right and on in space. A lot 406 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: of people who support massky board it whatever are looking 407 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: at this and be like, yeah, okay, you know this 408 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: makes sense or whatever worse to the worst, and they're 409 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: taking the administration's word for it. The thing is now 410 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 3: the administration, in the same way that they have on tariffs, 411 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: is now showing this on immigration. So we previously saw 412 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: that MS thirteen East Coast gang leader, right who was 413 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: allegedly this horrible human trafficker drug you know, drug paraphernalia, 414 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: et cetera. They're dropped, they got a gun, slapped him 415 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: with a gun charge, and now they're just okay, we're 416 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: gonna deport him. Tell Salvador fine. I mean, okay, you 417 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: know guy had a gun illegally, definitely in crime. Why 418 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: was the governor of Virginia there and the Secretary of 419 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: Homeland Security. So what's happened is just a low level 420 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: gang member and you know, this entire thing is made up. 421 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 3: Same with a lot of the case here we've seen 422 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: around the tattoos, et cetera. I mean again, you know, 423 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: to be totally honest, like never in my wildest dream, 424 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: so I think that anybody could ever be so stupid 425 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: as to use the process currently right now, that's on me. 426 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: So everyone gets dunk on me if they want to. 427 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: But that's just you can see pretty clearly as more 428 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: information has come out, not only in El Salvador, what 429 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: let's continue this, what we're about to get to with 430 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 3: the mock mood Khalil situation with this this woman who 431 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 3: is now yet go ahead, you can set it up. 432 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: This is an example of what I'm talking about. 433 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: And you know, just a resurrect again a Vietnam era 434 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: term credibility gap. That was a term that became widespread 435 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: during the Lennon Johnson administration where very similarly the American 436 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: strusted with the government, that trusted the government about what 437 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: they were saying around in this case immigration at that 438 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: time about Vietnam. But the more lies got exposed, the 439 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: more that the default assumption was you are lying to 440 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: me now became baked into the America right. 441 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: And just people who supported that general policy assumed there 442 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: was some level of due diligence that's correcting being put 443 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: into this and so that and it appears that there 444 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: is very little so we can put up E two 445 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: on the Streen. This is a big Washington Post scoop 446 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 4: that came out last night where a memo leaked out 447 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 4: of the State Department that said, Okay, you asked us 448 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: to look into Rumesa os Turk, who is a tough 449 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: graduate student, to see whether or not she had done 450 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: anything that would that we could even remotely link to 451 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: saying that she supported Hamas. And if you look at 452 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 4: makmu Khalil, who was there's nothing out there where they 453 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: have found there where he has said anything that would 454 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 4: that could be construed as supporting Hamas. Like it's just 455 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: it's just not out there yet. They're yet they're clinging 456 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: to that because he participated in some of these protests 457 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 4: where there there were some signs at the protests that 458 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 4: could be construed in that direction, and so he was 459 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: in the same vicinity. So that's got him, got him there, Okay, 460 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 4: So that's their bar. That's how low their bar is. 461 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 4: They couldn't even clear that bar for her. The only 462 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: thing that we have publicly seen, uh, and that they've 463 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 4: been able to dig up because they've got Canary Mission 464 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: and all these other Zionis organizations who have enormous amount 465 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: of resources to spend in betstigating these students. If they've 466 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: if they tweeted anything in twenty ten or twenty eleven, 467 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 4: and even in support of like a flotilla bringing aid 468 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: into Gaza, like we would know this about Roumes Ozturk. 469 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: They have an op ed on which she was one 470 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: of four co authors, that was published in her student newspaper, 471 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: that was in support of a student Senate resolution that passed. 472 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: So like that means like the entire student Senate is 473 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 4: supportive of Hamas if these claims are true. And if 474 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: you read the actual op ed, there's a ton in 475 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: it that Hamas would not agree with. Like it's it's 476 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 4: not a remotely Hama supporting op ed. It's just it's 477 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 4: talking about equality in Israel, and it's kind of critical 478 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: of the way that Israel is conducting. It's it's genocide. 479 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 4: I don't I don't even know if they use I 480 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 4: don't even remember if they use the word genocide. And 481 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: it's a very it's a very yeah. People go go 482 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: go look up us Herk's op ed. So that's the one. 483 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 4: So that's it turns out, according to the State Department, 484 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: which which looked closely at her case, that's all. They 485 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: had nothing else, and they told they said there is 486 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 4: no evidence that we can provide to Marco Rubio to 487 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: justify a claim that she is encouraging anti Semitism, by 488 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: which they mean, you know, uh, significantly critical of Israel, 489 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: or or that she is supportive of a terrorist organization. 490 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: We don't. The goods are not there. That memo was 491 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: in the custody of the State Department, produced by State 492 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: Department officials, and they went and grabbed her off the 493 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 4: streets of Summerville, Massachusetts. Anyway, you've seen that. I guarantee 494 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: you that you've seen clips of yeah, yeah, this horrifying 495 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: Somewhere You've got these like playing closed schoons pulling up 496 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: in the SUVs and and and dragging her away. That 497 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: was a pretty long time ago. Time kind of blends 498 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 4: together here. She has not been deported like she is 499 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 4: living in some deplorable conditions right now in immigration detention. 500 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 4: And this is a person who, according to a State 501 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: Department investigation, did nothing and I don't want to say wrong, 502 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 4: because it's not actually wrong to criticize Israel, but they 503 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: didn't do anything that even Marco Rubio's unconstitutional bar that 504 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 4: he has set an unconstitutional according to federal Judge Mary Trump, 505 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: like she didn't even do that, and currently she's deprived 506 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 4: of her freedom. Currently is a political prisoner sitting behind 507 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: bars in a detention center awaiting some sort of some 508 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 4: sort of adjudication of this case that's been brought against. 509 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is even quote Tucks Friends of 510 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: Israel says, we strongly oppose the co of the op 511 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: ed that Oscar co authored, but restricting freedom of speech 512 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: is flat out undemocratic and Unamerican. Freedom of speech in 513 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 3: a democracy is sacred. It ensures that descent is heard 514 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 3: and that people can express themselves. That's the tough Friends 515 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: of Israel argument. They did say genocide. By the way, 516 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: I just look at I mean, you can say whatever 517 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: you want, okay, even. 518 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: If whatever it's not a verboten word, right shall we? Yeah? 519 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: I mean, even looking at this entire case and the 520 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: background within it, you would assume, again you can donekull 521 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 3: me if you want. You would assume, let's say, if 522 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: you were to deport somebody Ryan and you don't support 523 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: this policy and neither do it. But we were to 524 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: deport foreign students who participated anti Israel activism, where do 525 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: we start? 526 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: We start with people who committed a crime. 527 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: Right, I would look at that Hamilton Hall thing, anybody 528 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: who was charged with the crime. And this is again 529 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: I don't don't support this policy, but that's where I 530 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: would start. Who could argue against that? 531 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 4: Right? 532 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: You could say, oh, it's not you know, it doesn't 533 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: rise to the bar whatever. 534 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't really legally if you commit a 535 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 4: crime and you're here on visa, you got dead to right, 536 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 4: it wouldn't be surprising for people who it would. 537 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 3: Not be surprising to people that's exactly right. But they 538 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: start with Khalil for reason I think at this point 539 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: we can only exclude well, yeah, they thought he was 540 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: on a visa. 541 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: They thought he was on a visa. There's number one. 542 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: But two is also you start with somebody who, in 543 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: a certain way is much more unimpeachable than you know, 544 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: the Hamilton All person as just a signal of like, 545 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: you shouldn't even be doing this right, And actually, I mean, 546 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: I know people may get upset about this. Would I 547 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: find the most objectionable is the government taking over the 548 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: Columbia University Mental Eastern Studies Department at Harvard and getting 549 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: is a United States citizens expelled from a university because 550 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 3: of something that they said, I mean, these are citizens 551 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: of the United States of America who played presumably good 552 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: money to attend a private university and are then being 553 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: expelled from that institution and having their education taken over 554 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: by the government here specifically on behalf of a foreign 555 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: government to teach what I mean, what are the terms 556 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: now that are banned at Columbia University? Like what Middle 557 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: Eastern studies? What national interests do we have here that 558 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: Americans sufficiently you know bow down to the State of 559 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 3: Israel in private university Ivy League education or or is 560 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: it all a power play to show is like, hey, 561 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: you should not be messing with I mean, really, this 562 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: is like Bill Ackman and the Zionist you know, pro 563 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: Israel lobbies, like this is their fever dream, This is 564 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: their wet dream, like come to life. Is literally taking 565 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: over the institutions which they see as theirs and making 566 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: them sufficiently pro zero and making sure that there is 567 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: no dissent there at all. And the fact that it's 568 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: done on behalf of a foreign government is just honestly 569 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: makes it for me ten times worse. You can even 570 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: understand in the past Vietnam censorship or World War two 571 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: or any of that. That's totally that is within the 572 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: bounds not of acceptability, but of understanding about how a 573 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: nation grappling with an internal crisis. 574 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: But this is not even close to that. 575 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: And we can't afford this right now. Meanwhile, foreign tourism 576 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 4: is plummeting. The bar is the line is going straight down. 577 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 4: It's like thirty down, thirty forty percent, but it's no 578 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: sign of what the bottom could actually be. I saw 579 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: somebody saying, well, it's only point four to two percent 580 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: of GDP. It's like, bro, do you understand how bigo 581 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: point four to two percent of GDP is. If you 582 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: shave that off, that that could take you from GDP growth, 583 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: if you're close to flat to recession territory. And it's 584 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: not just that point four too. Yes, that's the direct result. 585 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: But everybody who works in that industry, they pay rent. 586 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: They some some send their kids to private school. You know, 587 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 4: they go to the grocery store, they buy things. Now 588 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 4: they're not paying their rent. Now the landlord is going 589 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: to foreclose on that. Just like there's a ripple effects 590 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: throughout the economy. So taking a half point of GDP 591 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: and just saying no, thank you to it is huge. 592 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: And that doesn't even count the foreign students who sull 593 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 4: and we aren't argued about this before, but the foreign 594 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: students spend billions and billions of dollars in this country 595 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: propping up the economies of the neighborhoods. 596 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't disagree. 597 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: I've just said before I think it's a bad financing 598 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: system while you're also relying on a mayor. I mean, 599 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: for example, I think there was like forty five thousand 600 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: graduate students who are foreign who were admitted to some 601 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: of these But you might say, oh, okay, that's great, 602 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: and it's like yeah, but they also a four percent 603 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 3: acceptance rate. And part of the reason why a lot 604 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: of these people do get admitted is because they pay 605 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: full free. I think that's actively discriminatory against US citizens. 606 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: I would be happy to reform it with you Ryan 607 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: about But is this the solution? Yeah, I would say no, 608 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 3: I don't think that this is the overall solution to this. 609 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: So unfortunately, I mean, we are now in the clown 610 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: show where what Khalil has been greenland for deportation. 611 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. 612 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: It looks like we'll see. Yeah, So Friday, the Immigration 613 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: Court judge ruled that he could be deported. He still 614 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: has a habeas petition in front of the federal court. 615 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 4: So his lawyers are very country. So he's his parents 616 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: are His mother is from Algeria, so he has Algerian citizenship. 617 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: He also was born in Syria, but he as a 618 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: Palestinian refugee and a refugee camp, so he doesn't have 619 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 4: Syrian citizenship And what does that even mean in this 620 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: al Qaeda state right now? And so, but his lawyers 621 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 4: who I talked to over the weekend said that they 622 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 4: expect he would be deported to one of those two countries. 623 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 4: But one of those two countries I have to accept 624 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 4: him because and if they don't, now Algeria might in 625 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 4: order to kind of save him from getting sent to Syria, 626 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: because Syria might be more willing to do it because 627 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 4: you know, sur round by al Qaeda, which is our gesus. 628 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: We finance them, and they're they're willing to do whatever 629 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 4: to try to get sanctions released throughwhere else. Then he 630 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 4: would be at serious risk if he's in Syria, Whereas 631 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 4: the Algerians might say, if he's getting to it, will 632 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: take them and maybe we can protect it. 633 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: It's so funny to think about that, that he would 634 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: be at serious risk in Syria because what the administration 635 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: and the Posigon US people are telling us is that 636 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: he's some pro terrorist sympathizer. It's like, yeah, guys, those 637 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: are actual terrorists. And anybody who's been powling around with Jews, 638 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: Jewish students and pro peace and all that, they're not. 639 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 4: So happy with you. 640 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: There's actual terrorists. They look at you and they yeah. 641 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, there's that. Plus there's Israeli influenced in Syria. Yeah, 642 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 4: so Algeria would be more would be more likely, But 643 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: they're still fighting it and the Habeas case is still ongoing. 644 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 4: Unless unless they just ignore it and say, you know, hey, 645 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 4: screw you, we're just gonna shot, We're gonna ship him out, 646 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 4: and then once he's out, there's nothing you can do 647 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: about it. Yeah. Like that's like exactly what they're saying 648 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 4: with Ambredo Garcia and we mentioned. 649 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: At the top. All right, let's get to the next 650 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: part here, which is about Josh Shapiro. So, as we 651 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: guys said at the beginning, there was this terrible attack 652 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: on Josh Shapiro, the Governor of Pennsylvania's mansion overnight where 653 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 3: an arsonist set fire to the house while him and 654 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: his family were sleeping there at two am. Now, initially 655 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: there were initial reports out of this did not make 656 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: it seem like it was that serious. But the photos 657 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: that had come out of this are devastating. Let's go 658 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: and put these up there on the screen. You can 659 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 3: see here inside of the Governor's mansion where you know, 660 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: I mean they're's burned, I mean completely too crisp, but 661 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: basically went up in flames all the way to the roof. 662 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: You can see there like the dining room formerly which 663 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 3: was burned on several of the walls, wallpaper, the piano, 664 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: et cetera suffering quite a bit of damage. That was 665 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: a leftover sign where they had just finished passed over 666 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 3: dinner at the Governor's mansions, had passover crafts, and you 667 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: can see that it's charred there by a lot of smoke. 668 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 3: So here's what we know so far about the suspect. 669 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 3: Let's go put that up there on the screen please. 670 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 1: From the ap. 671 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: Suspect's name is A Cody Bomber, and Cody Bomber of Harrisburg, 672 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania now been arrested and charged with the attempted murder 673 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: there in Arson on the Pennsylvania governor's mansion. He allegedly 674 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: told allegedly told investigators that if he had been able to, 675 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: he would have beat the governor with a hammer. 676 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about the guy. You know, 677 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to say too much about his appearance. 678 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 4: You can draw that he looks like a hipster. 679 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: Draw conclusion from. 680 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: What you will about being the light that you want 681 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 3: to see in the world. Okay, I mean, look, let's 682 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 3: all just remember this may not even. 683 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 4: Be in the Mazza Molotov cocktail, like that's the lefty Yeah, 684 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 4: I mean, right wingers will throw a Monotov locktail, but. 685 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: Will see. 686 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 3: I was going to say, as usual with these cases, 687 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 3: like with the Paul Pelosi case, you know. 688 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 4: They latch onto a politics, but ultimately they're mentally ill. 689 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, probably just schizophrenic crazy. And that's not an excuse. 690 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: It's still scary what we're watching. 691 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 3: But I'm saying, in terms of trying to spin some 692 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 3: grand political narrative, anybody who participates in something like this, 693 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: they've lost it. Uh So, what we know from Cody 694 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 3: right now is he was taken into custody, said he 695 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: would have beaten Shapiro with a small sledgehammer if he'd 696 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: been able to quote. Bomber had walked an hour from 697 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 3: his home to the governor's residence. During the police interview, 698 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: he admitted to harbor a hatred towards Shapiro, but did 699 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 3: not explain why. Okay, Shapiro, his wife, his four children, 700 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: two dogs, and another family were celebrating passed over at 701 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 3: the residence and were awakened by state troopers pounding on 702 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 3: their door about two am. They fled as firefighters extinguished 703 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: the fire. Luckily nobody was injured. We don't know yet 704 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: a whole. 705 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: Lot about this. 706 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: Authority said that Bomber is currently being transmitted transported to prison. 707 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: Did not say either whether he had a lawyer currently. 708 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: Like I said, he'd been listed to residence in Harrisburg 709 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 3: as recently as twenty twenty two. But if he walked 710 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: an hour to the Governor's mansion, so presumably within the 711 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 3: Philadelphia area, right or Sorryburg? 712 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 4: Right? 713 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: Wait what am I thinking of? That's right now? 714 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: He is in Heiresburg, right, this is where the government 715 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 3: minister is so yeah, presumably then he's remaining in the 716 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 3: Harrisburg area. I guess that's all we know right now, 717 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 3: and still just I mean, it's just horrible to see 718 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: not only that the damage, but just show you is 719 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 3: much closer call than I think a lot of people 720 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 3: initially thought. You know, it seems like e also was 721 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 3: able to permeate. They were security perimeter and the fence, and. 722 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 4: They said his security was like he was he was 723 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 4: like evading security as they were like chasing him through. Wow, 724 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 4: the mansion, I was able to. 725 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: I mean, this reminds me of you remember when Obama 726 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: was president and that guy leaped the fence and actually 727 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 3: made it through the front door. 728 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he made it pretty damn close. He made it 729 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: decent far into the. 730 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 4: Yes, right, yes, right, he did get in there. And 731 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: people are finding his like social media posts and finding 732 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 4: he's sharing like anarchist stuff. He has one joke on 733 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 4: here where he says I'm a registered socialist. So I 734 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 4: had gotten about twenty seven mail in ballots. It's funny 735 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 4: joke because I got to vote for everyone twice and 736 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 4: vote none of the above in person, plus casting a 737 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 4: vote for my favorite Cardo. 738 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: Let me know if there's any illuminati on there. 739 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: That's always a fun that's always a fun classic schizophrenic. 740 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 4: And he makes fun of Maga and oh really yeah, all. 741 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 3: Right, well, look as again, not everything asked to be 742 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 3: political doesn't. Maybe it's more just a garden variety insanity. 743 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: Do what has happened? 744 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 4: What you will? 745 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: We do have some comments here from the governor. Let's 746 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: take a lesson. 747 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 5: We don't know the person's specific motive yet, but we 748 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 5: do know a few truths. First, this type of violence 749 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 5: is not okay. This kind of violence is becoming far 750 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 5: too common in our society, and I don't give a 751 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 5: damn if it's coming from one particular side or the other, 752 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 5: directed it one particular party or another, or one particular 753 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 5: person or another. It is not okay, and it has 754 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 5: to stop. We have to be better than this. We 755 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 5: have a responsibility to all be better. 756 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 3: Possibly our next president there, Ryann, Governor Shapiro, don't know, 757 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 3: as you said, we saw some of the images there 758 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: of mister Cody Bomber, but that's all we really know 759 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: right now. The guy's been charged tempted, you know, tumpted, homicide, arson, terrorism. 760 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll fad, you know, we'll see more from 761 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 3: the investigation. 762 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 4: Etc. 763 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 3: As you said, he'd written and said previously that he 764 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 3: hated the governor, but did not say why. 765 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 766 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it could be a Matthew Crooks situation 767 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: where we just never really find out very much about 768 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 3: the guy. 769 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: That's where things are. Yeah, that's true. 770 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 3: We do know more about him than we do about 771 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 3: Matthew Crooks. Still an insane thing that happened in our history. 772 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 3: But that's where things are. Obviously troubling, very very sad, 773 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 3: and hopefully you know, the governor are pretty emotional there 774 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 3: in his comments. But you know, glad everybody that survived 775 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 3: and we'll see all right. Thank you guys so much 776 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 3: for watching great bro show. Ryan always enjoy being with you. 777 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 3: My friend christ will be here tomorrow. 778 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: We will see you all then the batt