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Speaker 1: hour discussing it, breaking it down, giving you our thoughts.
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Speaker 1: joined by former Dallas Cowboys defensive backs Danny McCray and
Speaker 1: Barry Church. Fellas, how are we doing on a Friday?
Speaker 1: And how do we feel about see Lamb going to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at number seventeen the OPA wide. Go ahead, Church,
Speaker 1: I'll let you start this on offer. Well, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: from my from my personal opinion, you know, they don't
Speaker 1: pay me the big bucks to be at GM or
Speaker 1: anything like that. But I mean to me, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't understand the pick. But um, I guess he's
Speaker 1: an explosive wide receiver and we just added a strength
Speaker 1: to a strong position that we already had. Um. For me,
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna go for sure, without a
Speaker 1: without a doubt cornerback. But I guess the Cowboys felt
Speaker 1: that Ceedee Lamb was that explosive of a playmaker and
Speaker 1: that much of a need for this offense that he
Speaker 1: can change the dynamic of everything that he needs to
Speaker 1: go up seventeen. So if he's the highest guy and
Speaker 1: you're born at that time, I guess you choose what
Speaker 1: you know you're highest guy, and they did that with
Speaker 1: Cde Lamb. Hopefully it pays off. Yeah, same here. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know we talked about them drafting the receiver a
Speaker 1: little bit, but we all expected them to go defense.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at them for going offense. I mean,
Speaker 1: you see the Chiefs, you need to score. I think
Speaker 1: the guy that we had them picking in the first round,
Speaker 1: he didn't get picked at all. So maybe all the
Speaker 1: teams felt the same way as the Cowboys did as
Speaker 1: far as picking that guy. So, and I know they
Speaker 1: didn't expect Ceedee Lamb to fall to them at seventeen,
Speaker 1: So having them having him fall there, I think that's
Speaker 1: something that they just figured they couldn't pass up on.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually excited about it. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: talk about weapons and no excuses. This is a perfect
Speaker 1: perfect storm for no excuses for not being able to
Speaker 1: score points on offense, so it should get done well.
Speaker 1: I'm excited the fact that we don't have to hear
Speaker 1: Danny talk about an LSU player all the Cowboys toga,
Speaker 1: So I just sit around here and talk about that.
Speaker 1: But you won't know. You all know how I felt.
Speaker 1: I felt they had to go defense, that needed to
Speaker 1: address the defense. But as Bill Parcels used to say
Speaker 1: when he coached the Dallas Cowboys, I reserve the right
Speaker 1: to change my mind. Here you are at seventeen and
Speaker 1: you're looking at CD Lamb, who you had ranked sixth
Speaker 1: on your board fall to you. So you have the
Speaker 1: ability to get a blue chip player at seventeen. So
Speaker 1: what do you do considering that the other player that
Speaker 1: you like was was caleban Chasing from LSU. I do
Speaker 1: not fault the Cowboys at all for living up to
Speaker 1: their board saying we will take the best player available. Now,
Speaker 1: this pick of CD Lamb is going to be good if, if,
Speaker 1: and only if they use day two and most of
Speaker 1: day three addressing the defense. I better not hear another
Speaker 1: offensive player Friday at eighty two. Don't talk about some
Speaker 1: tight end. Don't talk about some offensive tackler guard. It
Speaker 1: better be so dog one defense here. The Cowboys with
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb, Hey, they're gonna be able to score thirty
Speaker 1: five a game, but you do not be trying to
Speaker 1: give up forty two. Because my first start is are
Speaker 1: they going to become the alcohol service? Because what are receiving?
Speaker 1: No defense? Stop? Anybody listen. A lot of teams were
Speaker 1: following following the path that the Kansas City Chiefs put
Speaker 1: out there. Right. Offense has been it seems like it's
Speaker 1: more important than defense, except if you're playing in Miami.
Speaker 1: Everybody else is going offense across the board. Miami has
Speaker 1: three top notch corners, so they can cover these guys. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not surprised. I'll take it. I really
Speaker 1: I would have hoped that it was justin Jefferson, only
Speaker 1: not because he went the LSU, even though that plays
Speaker 1: a little bit into it. But he's more of a
Speaker 1: slot receiver than CD Lamb is, so I thought that
Speaker 1: would have been a better fit at receiver. But I
Speaker 1: don't know GM either. Yeah, and then if you look
Speaker 1: at it, if you look at it through this way,
Speaker 1: I mean Gallup has one more year on his contract left.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, that was rookie deal where he
Speaker 1: had two more years left. Two Oh you got two
Speaker 1: more So me, you don't want to maybe have a
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to have to worry about
Speaker 1: him in free agency. You got City Land that can
Speaker 1: step right up in there. So I don't know. But
Speaker 1: if i'm if I'm Michael Gallup, I'm kind of salty.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, Okay, I'd be kind of salty
Speaker 1: just because you got Amari Cooper who's already proven, got
Speaker 1: a hundred meal, you're on your way up, you got
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards last year. You're thinking, oh, this
Speaker 1: is my time, and then boom there you go take
Speaker 1: that back seat. A first round pick on going to
Speaker 1: be a number three receiver. I don't believe that one.
Speaker 1: He can't be as mad as Aaron Routs this, so
Speaker 1: tell him to get over. It can happen to anybody.
Speaker 1: This is true. This is true. Very ill balance out
Speaker 1: what you just said about Gallup here. So Gallup has
Speaker 1: two years left on his contract and Amari Cooper signed
Speaker 1: a five year deal, but it's really a two year
Speaker 1: forty million dollars. Cowboys can get out of this sucker.
Speaker 1: So this is really a two year deal for Cooper.
Speaker 1: He can get himself back out on the market. So
Speaker 1: if you're the Cowboys, you make may make the choice
Speaker 1: to say um goodbye to Cooper and you keep Gallup
Speaker 1: if you can keep him out of lower price tag.
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you this, I think right now all
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be in a real good position
Speaker 1: because Ceedee Lamb is a five year contract for the cowboy.
Speaker 1: So from the cowboy standpoint, at least, you probably gonna
Speaker 1: get yourself stability and you'll make a choice between Gallup
Speaker 1: and Cooper along the way. Here. That's my take on
Speaker 1: of what I'm seeing right now. Yeah, I have to
Speaker 1: agree with you on that one. I mean my take
Speaker 1: on if Gallup can make another step forward and this year,
Speaker 1: like we saw last year, how he kind of took
Speaker 1: that big leap, went up for a thousand yards, he
Speaker 1: became that bona fide number two receiver, if he can
Speaker 1: take another leap forward this year, I would definitely guarantee
Speaker 1: them getting out of that Cooper contract within two years.
Speaker 1: But I just I just don't see him making that
Speaker 1: big of a leap with this with Ceedee Lamb being
Speaker 1: on the roster just because there's just not enough balls
Speaker 1: to go around. I mean, you're gonna get that first
Speaker 1: round draft pick his fair share of receptions. You just
Speaker 1: pay them. Mark Cooper a Hunting, he's gonna get his.
Speaker 1: You paid Blake Jarwin, he's gonna get a couple of years.
Speaker 1: So I don't know where the balls go to gallup,
Speaker 1: but we'll see what happens. Yeah, work out. So mccraig, overall,
Speaker 1: when you look at what this offense is, where do
Speaker 1: you see Ezekiel Elliott in terms of you know, now
Speaker 1: they've got these shiny weapons here, they're gonna go three
Speaker 1: wide here, um, and what do you see the Cowboys do?
Speaker 1: And how does Michae McCarthy make this work? I see,
Speaker 1: I see a heavy eleven personnel. I see a lot
Speaker 1: of zone read between Dak and Zeke, and I see
Speaker 1: a lot of Amari Cooper in the slot. I see
Speaker 1: them using Amari Cooper similar to how New Orleans uses
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and puts them everywhere on the field and
Speaker 1: maximizes any matchup that they see that they can take
Speaker 1: advantage of. So I still see them splitting it, splitting it,
Speaker 1: running pass. But I see a lot of zeke uh
Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of coop. Okay, So Church,
Speaker 1: go back to the drafting of Ceedee Lamb. They're sitting
Speaker 1: here at seventeen. They've got the ability to take a corner.
Speaker 1: They can take Christian bellas you you can take Trade
Speaker 1: Giggs right there. You've got the defensive edge player in
Speaker 1: in Caliban chasing, and they go for Cede Lamb. So initially,
Speaker 1: just just what was your thoughts when you heard them
Speaker 1: call out CD Lamb at seventeen? My initial thoughts, I
Speaker 1: mean I started laughing, and I mean I was like, man,
Speaker 1: leaving up to them boys to throw a wrench in
Speaker 1: your plans. But I mean for me, it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, you lost so much defensively. I mean, you
Speaker 1: lost your quarterback in the secondary and Jeff Heed you
Speaker 1: lost your top cornerback and Byron Jones, and you're left
Speaker 1: with three corners who U they're not they haven't really
Speaker 1: been balls savvy outside of George Lewis, who's primarily a
Speaker 1: slot corner. So I just felt like, this is this
Speaker 1: is the draft. It was cornerback deep. I mean, you
Speaker 1: had your choices. I mean the guy from Florida, he
Speaker 1: was taking off the board. I think Jacksonville got him
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier than the Cowboys picked. But other
Speaker 1: than that, I mean, you had your choices at corner
Speaker 1: so and safety so um and defensive line as well,
Speaker 1: even though they took your boy from South Carolina earlier.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I mean they had their choice
Speaker 1: of defensive players. They chose to go offense, maybe just
Speaker 1: because they wanted to make that strength, like I said before,
Speaker 1: the receiving corps even stronger for Dak Prescott. But we'll see, man,
Speaker 1: I mean they, like you said, MC, creator's no excuses
Speaker 1: now with this loaded offense, They've got to be putting
Speaker 1: up hello points out there. Got to Now, if I'm
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, I look at all these weapons here, and
Speaker 1: there's no excuse. I mean, especially when he signed to
Speaker 1: this contract. Okay, when he signs to this contract, there
Speaker 1: is no excuse at all. There are weapons galore everywhere
Speaker 1: you go. I'm not gonna say they're Kansas City. I
Speaker 1: think that's a little bit unfair to try and put
Speaker 1: them in that Kansas City category, because I mean they're
Speaker 1: they're just their own group. But I'm expecting these guys
Speaker 1: to put up points in a New Orleans Saints type
Speaker 1: of fashion. They're pretty good at that. Sean Sean Payton
Speaker 1: does a great job of scheming, and I'm expecting Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy to do the same thing. So needless to say,
Speaker 1: in my fantasy football league, I will not be able
Speaker 1: to get down Prescott and eleventh round like I did
Speaker 1: last year, or Michael Gallup in a round thirteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is going to be I mean, look, Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's not in the Pro Bowl next year,
Speaker 1: you're gonna shake your head, right, I mean you, you
Speaker 1: aren't gonna shake here with all these weapons. We lost
Speaker 1: a Nui, you still got him. No, Yeah, I can
Speaker 1: hear you was breaking in and out. Okay, we're good,
Speaker 1: We're good. So so Church, what are you expecting from
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott now that they've added CD Lamb into this
Speaker 1: line I couldn't hear one more time? Say it again
Speaker 1: one more time? I said, what do you expect from
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott now that they've added CD Lamb into this lineup?
Speaker 1: I expect them to be extremely balanced. I feel like
Speaker 1: they tried to do that last year, but Dak had
Speaker 1: that head start in the first three games, so they
Speaker 1: kind of went heavy pass and then they went back
Speaker 1: to heavy run. They really couldn't find themselves later on
Speaker 1: in the season. But I feel like this year, especially
Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy at the him, I feel like they'll
Speaker 1: be extremely balanced. I mean, they get the best running
Speaker 1: back in the league right now, and then you have
Speaker 1: three bona fire receivers out there. I mean, you got
Speaker 1: Ceede Lamb, who he hasn't had a snap yet in
Speaker 1: the NFL, but I'm expecting big things out of him.
Speaker 1: I feel like, like you just said, Mike McCarthy, he's
Speaker 1: a great schemer. He's able to get his playmakers open
Speaker 1: and get them the ball. So I feel like they'll
Speaker 1: be able to pass the ball around a lot. So
Speaker 1: I see them being extremely balanced. I still see them
Speaker 1: starting off with the run note, getting things dominated on
Speaker 1: the run side of the ball before they opened up
Speaker 1: the pass, kind of like we saw back at two
Speaker 1: years ago when they won a division. So I feel
Speaker 1: like it's going to be extremely balanced team offensively wise,
Speaker 1: and hopefully on the defense we can get a little
Speaker 1: something to help us out back there. But offensively we
Speaker 1: should be just fine. McCray, What are you expected from
Speaker 1: that next year? M okay. So when I when I
Speaker 1: when I look here at what Mike McCarthy is able
Speaker 1: to set up this offense. To me, I think of
Speaker 1: just pressure. That's what I'm thinking. That they're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to put some pressure on teams, of pressure on defenses.
Speaker 1: And then when I look across the NFC East, because
Speaker 1: ultimately that's what you got to do for you gotta
Speaker 1: win your division first. And if you win that division
Speaker 1: first by putting pressure on guys, well, I tell you
Speaker 1: what this is really good. Now. I know Washington took
Speaker 1: Chase Young in the first round them, I look at
Speaker 1: the Giants defense, and if we know they had question
Speaker 1: marks of the DV position there, and we know that
Speaker 1: the Eagles had issues with their DV situation. I know
Speaker 1: they got Darius Slay, but he's just one guy. M
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are going to be able in this division
Speaker 1: to really make guys decide, hey, how do you cover
Speaker 1: this team? And if they got to play a lot
Speaker 1: of diamond nickel here, then maybe you have an opportunity
Speaker 1: before to me get Ezekiel Elliott your pass game more.
Speaker 1: We know Tony Poll can do some more in the
Speaker 1: pass game, and if they give Blake Jarwin more opportunities
Speaker 1: that catch the ball down the field, down the scene,
Speaker 1: this offense, man, I'm telling you, this offense should do
Speaker 1: its part to put up the points. And maybe by
Speaker 1: putting up points they help their defense because they can
Speaker 1: make another team one dimensional that they have to try
Speaker 1: and match the points they put up Church were spent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, after my first disappointment of the draft pick,
Speaker 1: now I'm starting to you know, things are starting to
Speaker 1: come back to me, and I'm starting to think maybe
Speaker 1: this offense could be a little a little dangerous out there.
Speaker 1: Like you said, I mean, you can pick your poison
Speaker 1: out there. You got Jarwin, who's a mismatched nightmare for
Speaker 1: any linebacker, any safety, and if you do decide to
Speaker 1: throw a corner on them, he's too big for them. So,
Speaker 1: like you were saying, that dime package, and if they
Speaker 1: do though dime, then that's when you feed Zeke. With
Speaker 1: only one linebacker in there, there's no way you can
Speaker 1: stop this running attack. So they can be extremely dangerous.
Speaker 1: And that's not even bringing in the receivers into account.
Speaker 1: You know, the sliding cde Land if they chose to
Speaker 1: put them there Cooper Gallop so that these guys are
Speaker 1: extremely dangerous. They have a great offensive line in front
Speaker 1: of them, So, like you said, there's no excuses for
Speaker 1: this offense to not produce Hella points and put pressure
Speaker 1: on opposing teams and hopefully, you know, it relieves a
Speaker 1: little bit of pressure off this defense. Knowing that this offense,
Speaker 1: if they perform to the potential, can go out there
Speaker 1: and outscore anybody no matter how many points their defense
Speaker 1: gives up. So if that's the philosophy going forward, I
Speaker 1: hope it works out for them, But they gotta make
Speaker 1: sure this offense is poting it all point because I
Speaker 1: don't feel like this defense is going to be able
Speaker 1: to stop much of anything unless they get a lot
Speaker 1: of great dram choices coming up in these next couple
Speaker 1: of rounds. One thing that struck me as interesting McCray
Speaker 1: is when when Jerry Jones was talking with the media,
Speaker 1: he said he wanted CD Lamb to wear number eighty
Speaker 1: eight because it was a fellow for Arkansas, and the
Speaker 1: CD Lamb said he came out war number ten and
Speaker 1: in my media thought was Jerry dump dead. We can
Speaker 1: end the death discussion. Okay, let's bring back dead. It's
Speaker 1: like Jerry's like, I don't I don't know who he
Speaker 1: is anywhere. I want seed either where in the eighty eight.
Speaker 1: So so death talk done? Okay, right? Am I right there? Death?
Speaker 1: How did I know? How did I know that Den
Speaker 1: was gonna come up today? I knew that you had
Speaker 1: to put a knife in it. New it. I knew
Speaker 1: you had to put a knife in it. But yes,
Speaker 1: we talked to the masses want death back. You know,
Speaker 1: we see the best Cowboys Twitter. Okay, we see it.
Speaker 1: I said now, I said, now, the desk talk coming
Speaker 1: back to the Cowboys is officially dead. It's over not happening. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's. Yeah, it's officially done. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be they'll be posting any more
Speaker 1: of des Brown workout videos on you know, on Dalla
Speaker 1: Stowboys dot com or anything like that. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's so crazy how the world changes like that. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean, one minute, bring him back. He can do it.
Speaker 1: He can be our slot receiver, even even our tight end.
Speaker 1: And then next day isn't eighty eight Oh that CD lamb?
Speaker 1: What you're talking about like, I mean, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. This man go. He gonna give eighty eight
Speaker 1: to It's had a fantastic run. We know what his
Speaker 1: numbers are with the Cowboys, but it don't I mean,
Speaker 1: so so Lamb is wearing ten, So the eighty eight,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they just put it on ice
Speaker 1: for a minute right now. But but but Dez is
Speaker 1: not coming back. Jerry Jerry Jerry Stock have a dream
Speaker 1: and shower about disk because he's got CD lay So
Speaker 1: so that's what. They're still friends. Yes, they're still friends.
Speaker 1: He can still come to the sweet and watch the games.
Speaker 1: I do think Dez will play in the NFL as year,
Speaker 1: but clearly it won't be for the Cowboys. But I
Speaker 1: tell you what, let us take a break right now.
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio nw he scrugs joined by
Speaker 1: former Dallas Cowboys defensive players Danny McCrae and Barry church
Speaker 1: So Cede Lamb is the guy we all thought they'd
Speaker 1: go defense. But the three of us are okay, because
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb was a top six guy on the Cowboys draft. Ward,
Speaker 1: you got a blue chip player, so they get a
Speaker 1: blue ship player at seventeen, no matter the position. Fine,
Speaker 1: we'll go with that. But today, round two, pick fifty one,
Speaker 1: it must be defense. Round three, pick eighty two, it
Speaker 1: must be defense. Gentlemen, are we all in agreement on that? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I agree, offense office should be done. Okay, Now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you some Mott drafts from two people I
Speaker 1: like following in their work. One is Dane Bruger, who
Speaker 1: also does work with us right here at Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com. So at number fifty one, he's got Treylon Diggs,
Speaker 1: the corner from Alabama. He picks he can fall to
Speaker 1: fifty one in the second round. And this is he's
Speaker 1: got them picking Diggs over Grant Helpit, Christian Fulton, Ross
Speaker 1: Blacklock defensive tackle from TCU, and Kyle Dugger the safety.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Church, I'm I'm one
Speaker 1: hundred percent agreement with that one. Um. You know, Diggs
Speaker 1: was my first round picked from the jump. So if
Speaker 1: they can pick up Ceedee Lamb as well as get
Speaker 1: Diggs later in or get Digs in the second round,
Speaker 1: I think that that would be a great haul for him.
Speaker 1: This is a long, linky kid, like I said before,
Speaker 1: that can pretty much run with anybody, and he's physical
Speaker 1: as well. So this is a corner that, you know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need, especially with the loss of Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people were saying, you know, get
Speaker 1: the safety out of Alabama and McKinney. But um, if
Speaker 1: you got you know how high Clinton Dick's back there,
Speaker 1: and you got Woods back there who have had NFL
Speaker 1: experience and they're both you know, pretty solid safeties back there.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's in. He's a need as a necessity,
Speaker 1: but cornerback is definitely a necessity. And I think Diggs
Speaker 1: fits the mold and I'd be happy if they grabbed
Speaker 1: him in the second round. It is there. I know
Speaker 1: I talked to all this about having three safeties. But Church,
Speaker 1: do you remember when we had Brodney Pool come in
Speaker 1: and he was supposed to be the starter and then
Speaker 1: he got beat out by the dude named Barry Church,
Speaker 1: And then we had another guy We had another guy
Speaker 1: that they paid, Jasper Brinkley, that came in. It was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a starter, and then he got his
Speaker 1: spot taking as well, didn't even start on the team.
Speaker 1: I think the same thing could happen with Clinton dix Um.
Speaker 1: It's hard to pass up on the talent like Delpa
Speaker 1: if he falls to you in the second round. So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be upset if they got him. But the
Speaker 1: smart decision, as it would have been in round one,
Speaker 1: is to go ahead and get you a corner to
Speaker 1: show if that spot that uh that Byron Jones left
Speaker 1: when he signed with Miami. Okay, So Dan Brugler goes Trigg.
Speaker 1: Traylon Dick's at fifty one zerline at NFL dot com
Speaker 1: is going with an edge rusher Julian Arqua from Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: and he's taking the edge guy over and just going
Speaker 1: down his his my drafting second round over Christian Fulton,
Speaker 1: the corner chin, the defensive safety um ray Qua, Davis
Speaker 1: tod Line for Alabama and the great delpit of LS shield.
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't see it either. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, d Mac, Yeah, same thing. I don't see it.
Speaker 1: I think they've picked up some guys, they're waiting on
Speaker 1: some guys get reinstated. That you got d Law, you
Speaker 1: got some the the inside, the interior lineman coming back.
Speaker 1: You need to show up the second day. This is
Speaker 1: a passing league and right now this is where we're
Speaker 1: hurting that. So it just doesn't make sense to just
Speaker 1: keep stacking up on the D line when you need
Speaker 1: to go fill up a cover corner or safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you got the D line there, and you went
Speaker 1: and got McCoy from Tampa Bay. They went't got don
Speaker 1: Terry Poe. I mean they already got some guys in there.
Speaker 1: So I think the D line, I would I would
Speaker 1: get another pick, but not as high as a second
Speaker 1: I think they got to go to the second day
Speaker 1: right here. Like you said with Grant delpit Um, he's
Speaker 1: a versatile player out there. I mean he can play safety,
Speaker 1: he can play nickel, he can play whatever you need
Speaker 1: that honeyback of a safety that the NFL is going towards.
Speaker 1: So he would be a great pick there. But like you,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, with the D line, they got McCoy,
Speaker 1: they got po I don't think you need to waste
Speaker 1: a second round pick on them. But to me, I
Speaker 1: think Diggs is that guy. But we'll see. Okay, So
Speaker 1: in the third round at pick eighty two, Dame Brugler
Speaker 1: who lost to be on the Dallas Cowboys broadcast here,
Speaker 1: um has Terrell Burgess of Utah. He's got him going there,
Speaker 1: d Lineman, and then their line has tightened. Harrison Bryant
Speaker 1: going to the Cowboys at eighty two. Church your thoughts
Speaker 1: on those two picks, and McCray you follow him. I
Speaker 1: think the d line picking the third would be would
Speaker 1: be a good selection there. Like I said, I don't
Speaker 1: think the second. I think second is a little bit
Speaker 1: too high to get those guys, seeing as though you
Speaker 1: have brought those veteran players in there. But for that
Speaker 1: fourth round pickause, I think he said tight end. I
Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't be surprised. I would not be surprised
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys went with another offensive pick. I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like they they can't help themselves and
Speaker 1: they go ahead and sprinkle some offense in there. So
Speaker 1: we'll see, but I hope they spend the rest on defense.
Speaker 1: I do not agree with anohing tight end in there,
Speaker 1: especially since you got two young ones in there. And
Speaker 1: Shultz and and Jarwin. So I don't I don't agree
Speaker 1: with that, but like I said, sometimes the Cowboys can't
Speaker 1: help themselves and they'll sprinkle some offense in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm even with the D line. I'm still not sure
Speaker 1: about that one. I think we have enough pieces and
Speaker 1: for us to make it through and we could make
Speaker 1: it to six or seventh to get another D lineman.
Speaker 1: We need defensive backs. It's just obvious that we are
Speaker 1: going to be facing some past happy offense, some guys
Speaker 1: with some weapons, and we need some guys to cover
Speaker 1: those people, especially in our division. So I think that
Speaker 1: safety and corner or two corners we just need. You
Speaker 1: can never have enough guys that can cover. Just put
Speaker 1: it that way. So in the draft, we need to
Speaker 1: go find those guys so we can have them ready
Speaker 1: to play this fall because we will be seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of past happy offenses. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, no, no, no Church hit, but
Speaker 1: all right, so let me ask you a question to
Speaker 1: new So if they trot out a B Brown, George
Speaker 1: Lewis and a Woozia as you're starting three and eleven personnel,
Speaker 1: are you gonna be okay with that for the regular season, No, no, no.
Speaker 1: As I said before you took CD Lamb, you took
Speaker 1: the best player. May be helped your off. It's fine,
Speaker 1: but now it's truly drafting for need here. You you
Speaker 1: to me, you got to fix and address the defensive backfield.
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky lit the Cowboys up for three touchdowns and
Speaker 1: ran one in. I had forgotten that. I remember the
Speaker 1: kid Jeff Driscoll Detroit. He came off the bench, guy
Speaker 1: hadn't played, and he lit up the Cowboys. Um, we
Speaker 1: saw Sam Arnold, So you got to go ahead and
Speaker 1: add some guys here. I think the second round pick
Speaker 1: is going to be a defensive back. And the way
Speaker 1: it all fell with all the safeties, nobody can go
Speaker 1: in the first round and a lot of corner guys
Speaker 1: in the second round, the Cowboys are going to be
Speaker 1: in a great position. But if it's up to me,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at Christian Fulton, Tray Bond Digs and
Speaker 1: Grant Delpots sitting there for me in the second round,
Speaker 1: I'm going for the corner. I gotta fixed the corner
Speaker 1: spot before I go to the safety. Far I agree,
Speaker 1: so so so who who's who's your first corner. So
Speaker 1: so let's put those three in order. So you gotta
Speaker 1: delp it, Digs in Fulton, who what which order are
Speaker 1: you putting those guys in as far as is best
Speaker 1: best available? Oh you know, I would probably go Fulton Diggs, Yo, gotcha?
Speaker 1: All right? So so so you can't really lose if
Speaker 1: Digs and Fulton are both there, you're just picking either
Speaker 1: one of those before delpot It makes sense. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I take that. I mean and for me and Danny,
Speaker 1: you know, because you played in that in that conference.
Speaker 1: When you're playing the SEC, you're getting tested everyone. I
Speaker 1: mean in that division in the WS, just a lot
Speaker 1: of talent. We saw a record number of SEC guys
Speaker 1: going in the first round. So to me, if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get one of those guys, I know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get a good play. We know what kind of guys
Speaker 1: come out of LSU for the defensive backfield. We know
Speaker 1: what kind of guys and how smart they are. They
Speaker 1: played for Nick Saban of Alabama. So if you get
Speaker 1: one of those two big Fulton or Digs, to me,
Speaker 1: I'm the Cowboys. I'm walking away with Ceedee Lamb In
Speaker 1: around one and Fulton or Digs in round two, I'm
Speaker 1: doing the tap tens. I made my football. That's fact.
Speaker 1: Yet most definitely a Newey one thing. One thing before
Speaker 1: we get too deep up into the show. Hey, you
Speaker 1: know who started the end of the night last night.
Speaker 1: That was Joe Burrow starting with the first round, and
Speaker 1: Lsu ended it with Clyde. It was Hilaire and we
Speaker 1: had three in between that. So goot tigers. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, got tigers. I just wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure I give my guys a shout out, and then
Speaker 1: you just named two more they might be going in
Speaker 1: the second round. So that's that's that leads us at
Speaker 1: seven for the first two days. Okay, So so stay
Speaker 1: with me right there, because I was, I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was trolling a couple of my my Ohio State buddies.
Speaker 1: I said, you guys had the first three picks in
Speaker 1: the draft. Burrow was there, and then when he transferred,
Speaker 1: Actor Haskins beat him out. So Burrows won Chase Youngs
Speaker 1: two and then you got Okuda, the Grand Prairie kid
Speaker 1: go through. I said, how do you guys not win
Speaker 1: a Nation chapionship with all that time? How does that happen?
Speaker 1: How does that happen? With all that talent on that
Speaker 1: football team and more of it coming and then they
Speaker 1: ended up having a fourth round another guy going the
Speaker 1: first round. Four first round picks. Man, Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. But but but we have five NEWI don't forget.
Speaker 1: But you won the championship, you know, but you got
Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, but but during that time, Ohio State
Speaker 1: could have won it the year before. I mean they
Speaker 1: jutted to have all that talent is very surprising to me.
Speaker 1: But that was just my my my way of trolling
Speaker 1: my friend from Ohio State. But no, this year that
Speaker 1: they weren't good enough to be that lest you knowbody
Speaker 1: wasn't mean this is the story team, which is why
Speaker 1: you're seeing so many guys get drafted up there in
Speaker 1: the in the first round. So yeah, you can take
Speaker 1: your fift through that, man, you good. Do we have
Speaker 1: a do we have an account for how many Texas
Speaker 1: kids were drafted last night? Because I saw a bunch
Speaker 1: of plane old Texas in Houston's on the on the
Speaker 1: top of those screens. You mean from the state of
Speaker 1: Texas or from from the state from the State of Texas,
Speaker 1: from the State of Texas or Texas High school. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, but there was there was
Speaker 1: a lot of kids. I mean, you know we saw,
Speaker 1: we saw tc You had two kids go in the
Speaker 1: first round from Texas, Gladdeney with the Minnesota and then
Speaker 1: um Uh Ragor Jalen Ragor with the Philadelphia and we
Speaker 1: know Accuda with third overall. So yeah, there's a truck
Speaker 1: load of Texas kids. And I mean this is the
Speaker 1: about what four years, Yeah, I mean what you saw.
Speaker 1: I mean, but during you think about the draft, Texas
Speaker 1: high school footballs producing number one draft pick where you
Speaker 1: had Kyler Rurry last year you had Baker Mayfield the
Speaker 1: year before that, and then two years before that you
Speaker 1: had Miles Garrett from from Arlington. So yeah, Texas is
Speaker 1: producers some kids in high school football. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: no doubt that the best state for producing high school
Speaker 1: kids right now is a state of Texas. With the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP this past season was Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 1: the year before that, Mahomes won the MVP. So Texas
Speaker 1: is slaying it with these kids. But what's interesting to me,
Speaker 1: Danny is the Longhorns didn't have one first round draft
Speaker 1: pick all that money, not one first round draft pick
Speaker 1: came out of the Big twelve had grand toll of
Speaker 1: three first round three first round picks. One was from
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, two were from TCU. The acc as A
Speaker 1: conference only had two first round picks, and TCU produced
Speaker 1: two of themselves. It's interesting. It's interesting he started breaking
Speaker 1: this thing down with Texas man. A lot of talent here. Church.
Speaker 1: You should have been born in Texas, you might have
Speaker 1: got drafted. You're right, You're right, man, you're right. I
Speaker 1: just might have just shout out the Pittsburgh man, y'all
Speaker 1: play some bottle up there. There's something Stephen A. Smith
Speaker 1: said that made absolutely zero sense. A Cowboy player this
Speaker 1: week took the Twitter to do a little trolling and
Speaker 1: we had a little off air discussion about why this
Speaker 1: guy should be doing it, and also we gotta break
Speaker 1: down our thoughts about the last dance Michael George Chicago
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Speaker 1: joined by former Dallas Cowboys defensive backs Buried Church and
Speaker 1: Danny mccraig. Mccraig, you hit it up earlier, So so
Speaker 1: let's dive into the Green Bay Packers trade and they
Speaker 1: go get Jordan Loved the quarterback from Utah State, and
Speaker 1: they still, apparently this morning, have yet to talk to
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers about drafting Loved the quarterback. This reminds me
Speaker 1: so much of the one time Dan Reese when he
Speaker 1: was coaching the Deborah Broncos, drafted Tommy Maddocks who played
Speaker 1: at Ldie Bell High School here in Dallas Fort Worth,
Speaker 1: and John Elway was absolutely ticked off. Tommy Maddox never
Speaker 1: played any meaningful minutes for the Broncos, and we know
Speaker 1: Elway ended up leading the Broncos to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Dan Reeves got fired and we created a very nasty
Speaker 1: relationship between the two. How is Aaron Rodgers McCray, in
Speaker 1: your opinion, gonna handle this? You know, the first thing
Speaker 1: that I read was he better, he better act. He
Speaker 1: better not act like, hey, Chris, can you mute? So
Speaker 1: we had an issue with them with how Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: felt he was treated by Brett Farve. He had that's
Speaker 1: a perfect opportunity to not be a hypocrite in this situation,
Speaker 1: So I would be upset that they didn't get him receiver,
Speaker 1: kind of the same way that Tom Brady felt about
Speaker 1: New England. But I mean he has to take in
Speaker 1: a roll with it, and hopefully in the second round
Speaker 1: they're able to get him some weapons to help him out,
Speaker 1: because like like everybody says, all they have is Davante
Speaker 1: Adams right now, so he needs some weapons. He should
Speaker 1: be upset, but hopefully they could make them happy in
Speaker 1: the second, second, and third rounds. Here's the thing I
Speaker 1: had my question Church, and you can address this. We
Speaker 1: now know the way the defensive rules work. You can't
Speaker 1: touch the quarterback and that's why Tom Brady can play
Speaker 1: forty three and Drew Brees can play forty one. You
Speaker 1: can't touch these guys. Aaron Rodgers is thirty seven, but
Speaker 1: in the league where you can't touch these dudes, he's
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he's got a lot more football. I
Speaker 1: thought this team did a disservice to him by not
Speaker 1: getting a white receiver to help this out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the Green Bay Packers completely dropped the ball in
Speaker 1: this one. I thought was Aaron Rodgers man, I would
Speaker 1: be pissed. I mean, here you go, like you said, Nui,
Speaker 1: he's thirty seven years old, but in the league where
Speaker 1: you can't go you can't hit below the knees. I mean,
Speaker 1: he still has a lot of ball left. So let's
Speaker 1: just say he's thirty one years old right now. They
Speaker 1: were one game away from winning or going to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and so Aaron Rodgers is like, look, I'm
Speaker 1: playing with a bunch of outside of Davonte Adams, I'm
Speaker 1: playing with a bunch of undrafted free agent receivers, kind
Speaker 1: of guys that just got thrown thrown into thrown into
Speaker 1: Green Vegan you off of practice squads or whatever. And
Speaker 1: they ended up making it to the NFC Championship games.
Speaker 1: So they're that close and maybe one or two weapons
Speaker 1: away from getting into the next level, and they just
Speaker 1: had to go to a quarterback and they just had
Speaker 1: to look for the future. They just had to kind
Speaker 1: of rebuild. As though Aaron Rodgers is fifty years old,
Speaker 1: he's on his way out. So if I'm Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: of course had to be extremely mad. But you know
Speaker 1: what they say, you get him how you or you
Speaker 1: lose them, how you get them. And that's how he
Speaker 1: got his job. He came in there and sat behind
Speaker 1: Brett far for four years. Even though Bret Farve had
Speaker 1: a lot of football left in him. And you know
Speaker 1: the same thing happening to him right now. But if
Speaker 1: I'm him, like I said, I'm completely pissed off because
Speaker 1: all I need is a couple of weapons here and there.
Speaker 1: I'm still in my prime. I can still make any
Speaker 1: throw in the NFL. So for them to go ahead
Speaker 1: and look for the future, I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, maybe they just don't get along like
Speaker 1: that or something. But I thought, Aaron Rodgers, I'm completely
Speaker 1: pissed off right now? Did he takes Bill Belichick? After?
Speaker 1: After that? What you said, did he takes Bill Belichick say?
Speaker 1: Say you want to go to the Patriots? Now? Oh?
Speaker 1: If I get out of there. If I'm Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: the first text meant trade me. Now, y'all want to
Speaker 1: do this trade now? This is because to me, I
Speaker 1: thought it was crazy. Can you imagine New England picking
Speaker 1: up Aaron Rodgers in the trade? Man? That does Bill Belichick?
Speaker 1: But really, when you say that, I mean, here's Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and bron Bronkowski basically telling you we left New
Speaker 1: England because we weren't having fun anymore. You have to
Speaker 1: do it Bill Belichick's way. What did we just see
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. He basically ran off by McCarthy because
Speaker 1: he wanted to do it his way. So I don't
Speaker 1: see Air Rodgers won any parts of that. Aaron wants
Speaker 1: to do it his way. I just believe based on
Speaker 1: what I saw with John Elway, I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: have the same situation where there's going to become a
Speaker 1: bigger rift between the coach and the GM with the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and the quarterback will do all he can to outlast
Speaker 1: Jordan Love and make this situation very uncomfortable, which if
Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys, you're all good with that. Want to
Speaker 1: hit another topic here, because we got a lot that
Speaker 1: I want to get squeeze into you before we end
Speaker 1: the show to the Steven A. Smith is on ESPN today,
Speaker 1: and then we know steven A. Smith takes this great
Speaker 1: joy and trying to ride the Dallas Cowboys and their fans.
Speaker 1: And he was talking about CD Lamb and he said
Speaker 1: for the second time, all right, he said this months before,
Speaker 1: in the past six months, but he said that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had Terrence Williams as a wide receiver in their
Speaker 1: other team. If you want to be chief trolling, can
Speaker 1: you at least get a roster. I mean millions of
Speaker 1: dollars over the ESPN and if you want to sit
Speaker 1: here and ride your team that you can't stand at
Speaker 1: least though, who's on the dog on a team A Craig. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that doesn't make too much sense, especially how much
Speaker 1: he talks about him throughout the season. He is he shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Nobody has said Terence Williams name in the last two years.
Speaker 1: Do we have we have Connor Williams on the team.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have another? Like, what what are
Speaker 1: we talking about? He made too much money for that.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a mistake that he shouldn't be making.
Speaker 1: But that just shows he's just trolling. He doesn't he's
Speaker 1: not really paying attention to what's going on here. That's
Speaker 1: why when we start winning Super Bowls, he'll be upset.
Speaker 1: He won't be speaking Terence Williams names again. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was saying outside of Amari Cooper, you know,
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps non existent. I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. So that's that's what that's
Speaker 1: what you took from it. I'm just I'm just taking
Speaker 1: what Steve and A's putting down man, none existed, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I saw I saw the Twitter clips. No
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't see it. I didn't see it either.
Speaker 1: But he's known for trolling the Cowboys, and I thought
Speaker 1: for sure he was just saying a outside of Pooper,
Speaker 1: it's not existing, even though Gallup's a beast him open that.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what he was saying. All right, stay with trolling.
Speaker 1: So Rob Bronkowski gets traded from New England to the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccketeers so he could play with his buddy
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. They won a couple of Super Bowls together,
Speaker 1: and Tank Lawrence sent out a trolling tweet towards Juliet
Speaker 1: Edam and the comments that tamp got on there were
Speaker 1: they were they were split down the middle almost. There
Speaker 1: were some who were laughing with Tank saying yeah, and
Speaker 1: then there's a bunch of people getting on Tank lords
Speaker 1: saying you shouldn't be troll a guy who's won three
Speaker 1: Super Bowls you only have five sacks. Uh. It got
Speaker 1: it got out there, and my immediate my immediate thought
Speaker 1: process and I text you guys with it is it's
Speaker 1: almost a lack of self awareness. Is can anyone on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys really try and troll somebody from the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Considering the kind of success that a guy like Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman who was as a Super Bowl MVP winner, can't
Speaker 1: you even say that, I gotta be opposite of you
Speaker 1: on this, Lannuis. It's just a joke. I mean, thank Lawrence.
Speaker 1: He had five sacks last year, but that doesn't discredit
Speaker 1: his body of work. Like the team played how they
Speaker 1: played last year. He had five sacks, but that didn't
Speaker 1: that didn't define how well he played as a defensive player.
Speaker 1: And also the years before that. Can we listen to
Speaker 1: how many sacks he had in the previous two years
Speaker 1: when he was playing on franchise tax, so that one
Speaker 1: year doesn't this like this credit him as a as
Speaker 1: a player. And he was just joking it. It was
Speaker 1: a It was funny, It was a good joke. It
Speaker 1: was something that he probably saw somebody else posting. He
Speaker 1: just wanted to make his own. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was anything personal, and I think it was funny too. Man,
Speaker 1: everybody's leaving and Julian Edelman was there, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: know what's going on with the Patriots. So I said
Speaker 1: that said the comics were split. I mean, Danny you saying, hey,
Speaker 1: it's fun, it's all good. There was there. There were
Speaker 1: half the people and maybe even a little sixty percent.
Speaker 1: We're saying they were with you. All right, Church, where
Speaker 1: do you stand on this? I think I'm gonna ride
Speaker 1: with you on this one. Knew he um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think the law mean he jokes a lotting plays
Speaker 1: a lot and all that good stuff. But I mean,
Speaker 1: coming out to season he had last year, I mean
Speaker 1: he's out here trolling, you know, Edelman saying, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, last one left you, you ain't got nothing there,
Speaker 1: And you know he's sitting there like, man, you ain't
Speaker 1: got no sacks last year. But he didn't say nothing that.
Speaker 1: He kind of took the high He kind of took
Speaker 1: the high road on this one. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with new until he comes back and and maybe gets
Speaker 1: his sack plot up a little bit. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: he should relax on the trolling, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just playing Devil's advocate here, so so so listen,
Speaker 1: So if you have an off season for a whole year,
Speaker 1: you can't say anything to anybody. You can't even make
Speaker 1: a joke, even even if you were a Pro Bowl player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, what what do you mean you can't You can't.
Speaker 1: So this this is like when the fans on Twitter
Speaker 1: go and they say, like, you post a picture of
Speaker 1: you at astro World or something, They like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing an astero? Are you're supposed to be focusing
Speaker 1: on football? Y'all suck last year? What I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta regular life. I can't just do football twenty seven.
Speaker 1: I can't make a joke. I can't like this is
Speaker 1: a banner between two NFL players, Like, we can't joke
Speaker 1: now because because I had an all season sack wise,
Speaker 1: that's not right. I don't think the laws should have
Speaker 1: to be quiet for a full year because he had
Speaker 1: five sex this year, but almost twenty for the previous two.
Speaker 1: You say that you know this, this this what you
Speaker 1: just said, Danny makes me think about about Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: and having watched that that last dance and then I've
Speaker 1: been diamond into the books. Um, David Halberstam's book Playing
Speaker 1: for keeps something Michael Jordan in the life by rolling
Speaker 1: lazy and be on Michael Jordan's the and we now
Speaker 1: know Michael owns the Charlotte Hornets, and he was talking
Speaker 1: with one of the Golden State Warriors guys, and you're
Speaker 1: the Warriors set that record for wins, and Michael immediately
Speaker 1: just cuts down the owner says, who cares how many
Speaker 1: games you want if you didn't win the championship. I
Speaker 1: mean talking about Golden States had a pretty good run.
Speaker 1: But that was his thing. If you know what, man,
Speaker 1: you didn't win, and if you're not winning, I don't
Speaker 1: care what you've done. And that makes you think about take. Hey,
Speaker 1: if you want to call someone out, you're calling out
Speaker 1: somebody who want If you're not out here winning, do
Speaker 1: you really really need to be doing that in today's age? Probably?
Speaker 1: Not winning does not make you off limits to jokes.
Speaker 1: You can win all you want to and still get
Speaker 1: jumped on. That don't save you because you want a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And now if you want to start talking
Speaker 1: about like his play and calling them, I'm sorry, like
Speaker 1: talking about his performance. Yeah, that that's a little difference.
Speaker 1: But it was. It was a joke with his friends
Speaker 1: leaving them up up in New England. It was it
Speaker 1: was just a joke. It's just fun. I don't like
Speaker 1: I said it doesn't save you from from being joked on.
Speaker 1: Just because you're a super Bowl champion. Tom Brady can
Speaker 1: get talked about, Grow can get talked about. Anybody they
Speaker 1: want a super Bowl can't get talked about. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, uh Church, I know you watched the Last Dance.
Speaker 1: What was your take on and is there anything that
Speaker 1: you saw from that that you relate to your days
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL um I mean the story about
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say no names, but the story about
Speaker 1: you know, him walking in in the hotel rooms and
Speaker 1: seeing stuff like, I mean, it gets real. But I
Speaker 1: will say this, man, Scottie Pippman, you tripping for taking
Speaker 1: that seven year twelve men? What was it? Seven years,
Speaker 1: eighteen million? You tripping out there? First of all, was
Speaker 1: like one of the top picks in that draft that year.
Speaker 1: And then I know you're talking about uscurity and you
Speaker 1: want to look after your grandparents and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But man, you could have had security. You could have
Speaker 1: got a two year deal. Let me get a two
Speaker 1: year for five millions or something like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: the way the way that contract was was negotiated was terrible.
Speaker 1: And his agent, his agent should have been fired immediately
Speaker 1: after that. I mean, I was that was a terrible contract.
Speaker 1: Terrible contract. Can I defend the agent? Can I defend
Speaker 1: the agent? So the agent, Jimmy Sex his agent at
Speaker 1: the time and he also represented Horrors Brand, was Jimmy
Speaker 1: Sexton Dona Memphis. So Sexton today is one of the
Speaker 1: most powerful agents in the game. He has he has
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of coaches. But Sexton told
Speaker 1: him not to sign the deal. Sex is like, this
Speaker 1: isn't a good deal. But Scotty, having grown up poor
Speaker 1: in Arkansas and wanting to go ahead and take care
Speaker 1: of his family, decided I'll take the security of eighteen million.
Speaker 1: Because I want to say put this also into context,
Speaker 1: Scotty had some back issues. So in his mind, if
Speaker 1: I'll take this eighteen million guaranteed and no matter what,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. And I'm not trying to ride on Scottie,
Speaker 1: but he's trying to present it in the situation of
Speaker 1: when you haven't come from a lot, you see what's
Speaker 1: in front of you right now. I talked to you
Speaker 1: guys before about that Muhammad Ali book that I read
Speaker 1: that Don King put fifty thousand dollars in cash in
Speaker 1: front of Ali. He owed him over one point seven
Speaker 1: million dollars. He sent a dude over with a cash,
Speaker 1: a big old cash thing, a fifty grand, and he
Speaker 1: had he said, and he said at a notary public, hey, look,
Speaker 1: take this fifty grand right now. And you don't and
Speaker 1: I don't you don't you know, I don't owe you
Speaker 1: anything else. Ali took the cash right there. For Scottie Pippen.
Speaker 1: He couldn't see the future. He didn't see what the
Speaker 1: NBA is now. He saw eighteen million and security for
Speaker 1: him and everybody he loved. So I don't I don't
Speaker 1: blame the agent there. If that's what the kids saw
Speaker 1: and that's what he wanted, can you blame the agent,
Speaker 1: I blame I blame management offering him that that contract
Speaker 1: one and in two. I've seen Shannon Sharpe say something
Speaker 1: about it about Michael Jordan, and I gotta agree with
Speaker 1: him on this. With the one thing you don't do
Speaker 1: as a as a player in any sport is count
Speaker 1: another man's money. If Scottie pipping was upset in the
Speaker 1: final year of his deal and he was gonna do
Speaker 1: everything he could to get paid, nobody has a right
Speaker 1: to speak on that. No matter how bad you want
Speaker 1: to win. This dude wants to get paid, just like
Speaker 1: the rest of the people on his team. You know,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan will not then called him selfish at some
Speaker 1: point in time. You gotta be selfish. You've been playing
Speaker 1: for crumbs for the last six years. Let the man
Speaker 1: be selfish to try to make his money. If it
Speaker 1: don't work, it don't work. But don't don't count. Don't
Speaker 1: count another man's bread. And at the time, Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: was making thirty three million dollars a season and he
Speaker 1: over there talking about Scotty being selfish. Now, look, look,
Speaker 1: look looking to see this has coming. This is you know,
Speaker 1: you know I'm a historian on this. They weren't paying
Speaker 1: Micha a whole lot of money either. There was a
Speaker 1: time when David Fault was trying to get four million
Speaker 1: from Jerry riiserf and he said, I'll never pay Michael
Speaker 1: four million. And even starting at three, Michael signed a
Speaker 1: deal long term and which he wasn't making as much.
Speaker 1: It's when Michael came back that he was able to
Speaker 1: really cash in and get thirty three and thirty six
Speaker 1: million dollars those last couple of years that he played,
Speaker 1: but this was before Pippen's deal had run out, so
Speaker 1: he got to put some of this stuff in the
Speaker 1: context of what it was. But ultimately, the thing I
Speaker 1: took from the last dance of Scottie Pippen and even
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan I equited to what we just saw it
Speaker 1: with Lala Collins. If Lala Collins played out the season
Speaker 1: and went into the open market, he'd have killed it. Okay,
Speaker 1: he had a great year, he'd have killed it. But
Speaker 1: Collins had told me the year before he loved it
Speaker 1: here and did not want to leave his family from Louisiana.
Speaker 1: He likes living in Dallas for or and he took
Speaker 1: less money. So at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: up to what guys really want. And if a guy
Speaker 1: chooses security the way Scottie Pippen did, a guy chooses
Speaker 1: security and happiness the way Alala Collins did. I don't
Speaker 1: want to ever blame them, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: say management is bad to do it, because if they
Speaker 1: you know, they don't have to sign to do there's
Speaker 1: no gun anybody's head here. Guys do what they want
Speaker 1: to do. It's I mean, it's not a literal it's
Speaker 1: not a literal gun, but I mean, you got a
Speaker 1: bad bancker. You gotta take care of your family. People
Speaker 1: can pray on that and offer you something that they
Speaker 1: know that you that you're worth more, but they can
Speaker 1: offer you less because they know the situation that you're in.
Speaker 1: So it's not literally a gun, but that could be
Speaker 1: how Scottie pippenfelt. That's true, true, Mike, don't don't speak
Speaker 1: on don't speak Scottie Pippen's bread man in his final year. Mike,
Speaker 1: you said Michael was making thirty three re up Scottie
Speaker 1: Pippen at least good to give him a bonus or something. God,
Speaker 1: y'all couldn't give him nothing getting no money, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: sent a workout bonus or some happy out there and
Speaker 1: get these assists. You know, you're writ in terms of
Speaker 1: what bulls management could have stepped in in any time
Speaker 1: and said, hey, let's redo these things. But that's just
Speaker 1: not how they operated, which is why you saw Horace grantly,
Speaker 1: if you saw John Packson leaving. That's the way. That's
Speaker 1: the way it is. And it's interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about, you know, the money for those guys
Speaker 1: and push this back if you start looking at Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott right now, how many fans out there are mad
Speaker 1: at Dak Prescott because he has a sign of the
Speaker 1: young People call it Dak grievy. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: interesting when you think about how people have sympathy for
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippin not getting up and now people are mad
Speaker 1: at Dak Prescott. Because football contracts are not guaranteed at all,
Speaker 1: you do definitely need to get what you can. At Church,
Speaker 1: you were in this kind of situation here the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You liked it here, but you knew on the open
Speaker 1: market you get more money. And Jacksonville gave you a
Speaker 1: contract of security that you had to take and you took. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to take that one. I mean the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were offering significantly less than Jacksonville. And you know I had,
Speaker 1: like you said, he had to go. You had to
Speaker 1: look out for your family and get what you need.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the grass is not always greener.
Speaker 1: Like like I learned when I went to Jacksonville. There
Speaker 1: was just two different type of organizations. Cowboys are way
Speaker 1: up here and Jacksonville was just down here. But they
Speaker 1: did pay me, and um, you know, they had had
Speaker 1: to do what I had to do for my family.
Speaker 1: But looking back, if it was even close, even like
Speaker 1: one or two million close, I would have definitely stayed
Speaker 1: in Dallas. I mean, the organizations is that much better.
Speaker 1: But like you said at the time, I wanted money
Speaker 1: and I need died security for my family. So Church,
Speaker 1: stay with me. What is going on where the owner's
Speaker 1: son con is arguing Yannick Douay the defensive end for
Speaker 1: the Jags here, and yeah, here's the guy who wants
Speaker 1: to be traded and they're gonna hold on to him.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna possibly keep a guy in the building
Speaker 1: who does not want to be here, who thinks that
Speaker 1: the organization is bad. How does a locker room operate
Speaker 1: in that fashion? Well, you know, I was in the
Speaker 1: locker room with those guys, and I know him finally
Speaker 1: and in gackway is he's a very fiery he's a
Speaker 1: very competitive type of Guy's a young guy as well,
Speaker 1: so when he was I don't think he was doing
Speaker 1: itself any favors by arguing with the son, the owner's
Speaker 1: son on social media like that in front of everybody.
Speaker 1: M the dynamic between the Sun and the team is
Speaker 1: basically his son or Shad Khan's son kind of kind
Speaker 1: of goes into locker room more and talks to the
Speaker 1: players more than the actual owner does. So that's why
Speaker 1: everybody feels like, you know, they can talk to the
Speaker 1: to the owner like that. But he made a good
Speaker 1: point during that argument in Twitter, was saying to two
Speaker 1: in Gockway that you're doing all this band turn with
Speaker 1: me back and forth on Twitter, and you're talking about
Speaker 1: you want to be traded, but you're not doing yourself
Speaker 1: any favorite don't. And I think he was right about
Speaker 1: that one, because teams are gonna look at that like,
Speaker 1: do we really want to bring this guy in trade, um,
Speaker 1: you know possibly hot picks or you know, conversation for
Speaker 1: in Gockway when he's gonna come up here him and
Speaker 1: be that type of player. So I don't think he
Speaker 1: did hisself any type of favors by arguing with Shad
Speaker 1: Khan's son. But as we know, that guy wants to
Speaker 1: get out of there, and sometimes players do whatever they
Speaker 1: can to get out of a sticky situation. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting, all right. So rounds two and three of
Speaker 1: the draft are today, So with five minutes left here
Speaker 1: and the players line. So let's go back to the
Speaker 1: top of recap what we talked about here, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: go get Cede Lamb at seventeen. I was all about
Speaker 1: the defense, but I do not blame the Cowboys for
Speaker 1: taking a guy they had ranked number six on their
Speaker 1: board at seventeen. So now the Cowboys had a tremendous offense.
Speaker 1: You've got Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, Ceedee Lamb, you've got
Speaker 1: tight end Blake Jarwin, You've got Ezekiel Elliott, and Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott is going to resign you. There's no excuse for
Speaker 1: this team not to be putting up thirty to thirty
Speaker 1: two points per football game. But now my concern is defense,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like rounds two and three, they've
Speaker 1: got to go for a corner and they've got to
Speaker 1: add enough safety. They've got to add a defensive line
Speaker 1: that those three positions, the names have to be called
Speaker 1: the fifty, fifty one, and eighty two for those picks there.
Speaker 1: All right, that's my piece on that. McRae. You start
Speaker 1: and tell me your piece. Yeah, I'm most definitely U
Speaker 1: surprised that at seventeen for receiver, But like you said,
Speaker 1: the guy is one of those talents where Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: in the past and said he would never pass up
Speaker 1: on a guy like that if they failed to him
Speaker 1: and it and it happened, So you gotta take that guy,
Speaker 1: especially since all these corners and safeties that you thought
Speaker 1: we're going in the first round are still available. Like
Speaker 1: so it essentially it worked out perfect for you. You
Speaker 1: got to pick it a letter, hopefully with fooling digs
Speaker 1: and if not, then you still got delp it. So
Speaker 1: I don't see if picking defense in the second round,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a player that you want that
Speaker 1: you would miss on that that would hurt you in
Speaker 1: this in this draft, out of those three players, either
Speaker 1: one that you pick will make an impact on your team.
Speaker 1: So go defense, Go dbs, find some guys to cover
Speaker 1: of these receivers that will be coming at you this season,
Speaker 1: and uh and and continue that throughout the draft. Just
Speaker 1: tight end up that defense because you're gonna need it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be scoring some points, You're gonna be you're
Speaker 1: gonna need to be able to stop some people as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you on it. Yeah, I agree with
Speaker 1: well both of you guys on that one. Um, I
Speaker 1: was surprised eyes when they picked CD Lamb. But if
Speaker 1: he was their top, top, you know, rated guy and
Speaker 1: your sixth rated guy on their draft board, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't pass up on a guy. So hopefully he's
Speaker 1: he's out there, he's going to be able to go
Speaker 1: out there and perform at a high level and exceed
Speaker 1: all their expectations. But I feel like for the rest
Speaker 1: of the draft they're gonna have to go defensively, corner especially,
Speaker 1: I think as a position of need that they have to.
Speaker 1: And like mccraige said, he made a great point. They
Speaker 1: went and got CD Lamb, but a lot of the
Speaker 1: high rated corners and safeties didn't go in the in
Speaker 1: the first round, so they still have their pick of
Speaker 1: the letter in the second round. So I agree with
Speaker 1: them on that. But I feel as though they have
Speaker 1: to go defense because they don't want to be like
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen Kansas City Chiefs who had all the
Speaker 1: firepower in the world and we're scoring points over everybody,
Speaker 1: but couldn't stop it or couldn't you know, stop a
Speaker 1: cold or anything like that, and that ended up hurting
Speaker 1: them in an ANC championship when they couldn't stop Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: you know, on three straight third and tens, and he
Speaker 1: ended up pulling off a comeback and winning the game.
Speaker 1: So I think they gotta address this defense for the
Speaker 1: second half of the NFL draft, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully Cede Lamb's able to produce the way they feel
Speaker 1: like he should. That that that championship game that they
Speaker 1: lost the Patriots, I mean, if you don't jump outside
Speaker 1: and you win the game, I mean, so it was
Speaker 1: a mistake they made. But but going back on what
Speaker 1: you said, the next year, they bring a d board,
Speaker 1: they bring a Tyron Matthew, they do fix the defense.
Speaker 1: So Dame Brugler has the Cowboys taking Trayvon Diggs fifty one.
Speaker 1: M Lanzer Line of NFL dot Com has Cowboys going
Speaker 1: for edge rusher from Notre Dame Julian Arklis. But on
Speaker 1: Dame Brugler's list here because when I looked at them,
Speaker 1: I said, okay, so if he takes if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: take Diggs, who are they passing up? And the players
Speaker 1: they had passing up would be Grant Delpit, the safety
Speaker 1: from LSU, Christian Fulton, the quarner from from LSU, Ross Blacklock,
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from TCU and Kyle Dugger the safety
Speaker 1: from Lenore Ryne, the small school out of North Carolina.
Speaker 1: So if that's the case and these players are all here,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could find themselves like they were in the
Speaker 1: first round, taking possibly, you know, just the highest player
Speaker 1: they have left on their board, but I definitely think
Speaker 1: it's got to be a defensive backfield player. The cow
Speaker 1: was only one guy under contract after next year and
Speaker 1: that that's uh Anthony Brown here, So I feel real
Speaker 1: good that the cow was gonna be able to walk
Speaker 1: out around one and two with a corner and an
Speaker 1: explosive wide receiver with CD LAMB to me, if they
Speaker 1: do that at the first two robs good and then
Speaker 1: a round three go defense get If they do that, fellas,
Speaker 1: I'll be doing a tablets record the foot before we
Speaker 1: get out, Before before we go, man, I just gotta
Speaker 1: bring it up because it's the players louds and if
Speaker 1: these guys were in the locker room, they will be
Speaker 1: getting talked about the CD lab with the bat phone
Speaker 1: getting snatched out of his hand on national TV what's
Speaker 1: a big deal? And the girlfriend getting pushed off the lab.
Speaker 1: Please listen, significant others man, just make sure you do
Speaker 1: the right thing. Let the guys have a moment. Don't
Speaker 1: don't try to do that crazy, and do not become
Speaker 1: the spotlight of the NFL draft. And learn from the
Speaker 1: people before you. Learn from the people before you. Man,
Speaker 1: what she said, she said that the agent was calling
Speaker 1: and she was going to do she was trying to
Speaker 1: be a good girlfriend and answered the phone for him,
Speaker 1: and then he needed to calm down. So that was her,
Speaker 1: That was her, you know, thought process. So you know,
Speaker 1: there you go. But yeah, okay, all right, you and
Speaker 1: I know these girlfriends, uh, they true to do live
Speaker 1: up to the end of the college girlfriends truly do
Speaker 1: look to the NFL, not them all when these dudents
Speaker 1: get to do it. Let me tell you something. If
Speaker 1: that agent was calling he wanted her to answer, he
Speaker 1: would have handed on the phone exactly go on. She
Speaker 1: thought she was slick. Let me grab this phone real quick.
Speaker 1: And he sees the side. He looked like crazy. The
Speaker 1: mom too. On the other side, we're looking at her like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's messed up. If you go again. When I saw
Speaker 1: that video, ibly thought of ludicrous. The saw roll out
Speaker 1: of the MCS get out by stay a day because
Speaker 1: man just took over the whole draft. That's what I
Speaker 1: remember about the draft as far as visually yesterday was
Speaker 1: these girlfriends over stepping, over stepping. You know what. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say. I'm not gonna say nothing. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say. I don't, I don't. It was fun. People
Speaker 1: have talked about it on the Cowboy flag station. What
Speaker 1: o't fire through the fan? They asked him about it.
Speaker 1: They had fun with him all, I mean, all across
Speaker 1: social media, and that's why the girlfriend responded, so, um,
Speaker 1: we'll see I mean, you know, and and hopefully whenever
Speaker 1: we get back to the normal, well we'll hopefully be
Speaker 1: able to go, you know, talk to talk to CD
Speaker 1: in the locker room and have a fun laugh about
Speaker 1: it because you know that's you right. He's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be rased a little bit about it about his teammates
Speaker 1: in the backroom. I just don't touch us balls with
Speaker 1: this then, yeah, yeah, all right, fellas Hey, Um, fun
Speaker 1: stuff is always. Um. Let's let's hope they bring in
Speaker 1: some DVS and some d line and use the rest
Speaker 1: of this draft, in my opinion, to attack the needs
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys having all three levels of the defense.
Speaker 1: This needs to be a defensive draft the rest of
Speaker 1: the way. So let's see what they do. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about this next week. Danny Mccraigberry, Church, Chris being everybody
Speaker 1: who's been a part of this player's lives. We appreciate you.
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