1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Tambra Judge. Hi, guys, 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of to Teas and a Pod 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tambrichudge. 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: We are so excited to have Carlos king on. Carlos 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: was the executive producer of season six through nine on 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta. He was also the executive producer 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: for two seasons of the Real Housewives New Jersey. We 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: are going to be recapping Sunday Nights episode of Real 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta with Carlos, and we are so excited 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: to get all of his hot takes, because guys, it 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: was a lot. 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Let's ring him in Hilo. 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: Hey Carlos, Hey girls, how's it going. 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: It's going good now that you're here. 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 5: My two favorite blondes in the whole wide world. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: Oh it's not natural. 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god, feel beautiful. 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: I miss you girls, miss seven thousand pairs of tennis 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: shoes in the background. 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 5: Well, you know, Bravo has been very good to me 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 5: early in my career. So thanks, Zanini, Kim Zosiak, another blonde, 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 5: Charay and Teresa Judai is your favorite camera. 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: I can afford shoes. 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: You can afford shoes. 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Well, hold on, you brought up something that we just 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: need to get right on into them because you said 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Kim Zoleziac's name. I heard Andy said that it was 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: not on his bingo card that Kroy and Kim were 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: were ending it. What are your thoughts, because it's getting 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: messy now. I saw last night that he requested her 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: to have a psycho out. 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: She wants him to have drug tests. 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 4: It's getting dirty, Carlos. 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: Did you see it down and dirty? Listen? I did 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: not see this coming. So what is so funny? Girls? 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: I had Kim Zosiak on. 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 5: My late night show a year ago, I remember, and 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 5: Croy was with her, and I did not see any 40 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 5: signs of anything bad happening. It was as if I 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 5: was worked back in season five of Atlanta Housewives, where 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 5: Croy was like her main guy, her purse carrier, you know, 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 5: her handler. 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: He was in the studio. 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 4: Nobody wants a husband that's a handler. 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: No, it is. 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: I don't want a man carry any won't even carry 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: my purse for me. Ever, He's like nip, I draw 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: the line right there. 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: My husband will old mine. If I'm going into the 51 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: vat of public restaurant. 52 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 4: Oh ediee, he's. 53 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: Like nip. 54 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 5: Honey CROI was doing everything so I did not see 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: any signs of this happening. When I say to you, 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: I am shocked. And girls, they got married on eleven, 57 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 5: eleven eleven. So does that mean we can't believe in 58 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: numbers anymore than angel numbers? 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: Those are my numbers? Yeah, well, I don't know. 60 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, what we're hearing is that the gambling was 61 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: just allegedly getting out of hand. 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: And this is where I. 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: Mean, we've repeatedly seen things in the news about losing 64 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: the house and this is happening. But like, what do 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: you think was the straw that broke the camel's back 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: if you were to speculate. 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 5: If I was to speculate, allegedly, Look, Kim likes a 68 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 5: certain lifestyle. Cam is all about the money, she's all 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 5: about the bag, and she's all about her happiness. 70 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: Kim believes and. 71 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 5: Asks, believe and receive. And if all of this is true. 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: Right, she's not receiving. 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think she were receiving pain, but not pennies, right. 74 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 5: I think it was a matter of him likes to 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 5: live a lavish lifestyle and if money is not coming in, 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 5: Kim is going out. 77 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: Well I'm sure financially was a big issue between them 78 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: that split them up. But I really did think that 79 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: they were going to make it, like if you saw 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: a couple of these seem like they're in love. I 81 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: was a little bit shockeder than you think of the 82 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: big picture, Like you just said, she's all about the money. 83 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: Well they lost their show. What a couple of years ago? Yeah, 84 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: what have they been doing since then? 85 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: According to KROI gambling? 86 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: Honey, Yeah, well that sounded good. 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: But sometimes did you think that he like with your 88 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: experience with him, do you think he's a good guy. 89 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: Oh, he's listened. Roy is a great guy. 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 5: And what's so funny, No one knows this because back 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 5: in season four, which was eleven years ago, you could 92 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 5: not break the fourth wall, right, You had to pretend 93 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 5: a housewife introduced people to each other. 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: I'm the one who introduced Froy to Kim. It was me. What, Yeah, 95 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: it's me. 96 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: It's always the problem. It's me. 97 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: It's about the problem. So let me tell you what happened, ladies. 98 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 5: Yes, I was so remember when Charay was doing the 99 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: Atlanta local version of Dancing with the Stars. Yes, okay no, 100 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 5: and I'm like da da da da, So Croi was 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 5: the celebrity right, in addition to Charay and some other 102 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 5: local Atlanta celebrities. Him Zosiak attended she was away from 103 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 5: Big Papa at the time. She broke up with DJ 104 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: Tracy right, and she said to me, Carlos, he's hot, 105 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: and I said he is. I said, stay right here. 106 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 5: I approached Croy and said, look, my girl likes you. 107 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 5: She thinks you're hot. It's the hot blonde over there. 108 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 5: He said, I want to talk to her because I'm 109 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 5: still a producer. I said, camera's up, and we captured 110 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 5: that moment. 111 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: Look at Teddy's reaction. 112 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: We captured that moment of them being for the first time. 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 5: So that's why when they were engaged, Kim Zosiak told 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: me first. She said, we're getting married and you have 115 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 5: to be the producer. And Kim Zosiak is the reason 116 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 5: why I got my first executive producer credit because of that. 117 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: That's your show, yes. 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: And have you spoken to her since all this? 119 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 5: What I know about Kim is she's bombarded with texts 120 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 5: and Kim doesn't like. 121 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: This may sound funny, but it's true. 122 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 5: Kim doesn't like a lot of attention on her when 123 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 5: the cameras aren't rolling camera, when the cameras aren't Yeah, if. 124 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: I'm not getting paid, I'm not interested in the attention. 125 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, she's not, so I know that she's getting bombarded. 126 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 5: So I'm waiting until everything dies down, and I'm going 127 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 5: to reach out to her and invite her to dinner 128 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 5: to let her know that I'm being a friend and 129 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 5: not somebody who's trying to get the tea right. But 130 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 5: Kim is fine. Kim is always always going to be fine. 131 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: And did you ever actually meet Big Papa? 132 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: Yes, you did, Absolutely, he would be on set. 133 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: He would be on set, but not on care do 134 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: you think she's gonna find Big Papa. 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: Let's just say Kim likes big pockets. 136 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: So whether it's Big Papa, whether it's you know, a 137 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: hot blinde who's a DJ, if you want to be 138 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 5: with Kim Zoziac, you gotta have Jeff Bezos type of money, 139 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 5: or at least you know, I'm. 140 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: Not sure Croy had. 141 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: Financially, he had the money coming in crue. 142 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, might have more money than. 143 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 5: Lady teddy ladies, think about it. 144 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: When they met, he was a active NFL. 145 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: Player, true, true, You know though, how long was he 146 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: a player? Until? 147 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 5: I would say up until like four years after they 148 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 5: got married. 149 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: Oh he was okay, okay, all right, he. 150 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: Was a Falcons player. 151 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 5: I went to the Falcons game, got in the suites, 152 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 5: no KROI was living it up. 153 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Hold on, But when you said player, do you mean 154 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: he went on the field for anything more than the 155 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: beginning and the end. 156 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: Now, look, I play with the balls, but I don't 157 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 5: know football, right, so I don't know if it was 158 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 5: a starting five. 159 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: It is five people that starts, right. 160 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: I don't know. Is there any part of you that 161 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: thought when this news broke that it was a stunt 162 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: because their house has been going in and out of foreclosure, 163 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: and she's been the first one to say, you'll all see, 164 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: we're fine, we have money. This is a misunderstanding when 165 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 4: you know she was saying that over and over again, 166 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden they followed for a divorce. 167 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 5: Listen, because I just saw them a year ago. When 168 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 5: I first saw this story, I was like, wait, this 169 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 5: can't be true, because I did not see any signs 170 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 5: of it, and me and Kim are close, and she 171 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: gave no indication that they were in a bad place again. 172 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: It was a year ago, and things canna happen within 173 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 5: a year, so yes. When I first saw the breaking 174 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 5: news and TMZ, my first reaction was, this isn't real? 175 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: Is this publicity was going on? 176 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 5: And then as I started to read more into the 177 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 5: documents and what they were saying, That's when I realized, 178 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 5: oh shit, this is real, real, and I feel horrible 179 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 5: for Kim. 180 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: That was one of my questions. Do you think this 181 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: is going to spark her career? 182 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 3: Now? 183 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: Listen, one thing you and I both know is all 184 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 5: press is good press, and Kim Zosiak is a hot 185 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 5: name around town right now based on what we've been 186 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 5: watching on Atlanta Housewives for the past couple of seasons. Listen, 187 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 5: I'm an advocate for the Ogs. I think what that 188 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 5: show needs is some OG presents. We got Chaa, who's fantastic. 189 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 5: We're seeing Kim's zosiac return this season in a very 190 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 5: limited one episode situation. I want to see a single 191 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: Kim with a red Solo cup cigarette in the mouth 192 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 5: driving in the Bentley Cruise Control. 193 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: I mean I'm ready to have her in porch back. 194 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: But before we get into talking about all things Atlanta, 195 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: we first have to grow you a little bit on 196 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: Jersey because you are also a producer on Jersey for 197 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: two seasons. 198 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, two seasons. 199 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: Correct, And tonight we are going to be getting Teresa's wedding, 200 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: which we will watch, and because we don't have that, 201 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: we have to go backwards. 202 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: Let's do it all. 203 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: Right, So let's start with where do you stand on 204 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: the Melissa and Teresa few? 205 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, before I answer that, I. 206 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 5: Have a bone to pick with the two of you, 207 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 5: the two of us, Yes, and you know. 208 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: I listen, it's probably Teddy's fault. 209 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,359 Speaker 5: It's always Teddy's because because Teddy Teddy is a journalist 210 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 5: and I call her behind the scenes Teddy Walters, we 211 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 5: do too, you are a journalist. So I'll get into 212 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 5: the Teresa versus Melissa because I have a lot to 213 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 5: say about that. 214 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: Well, we want to hear it. 215 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 5: But I did not like that you too, change your 216 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 5: opinion and my Tamra judge boys, because Melissa contacted you 217 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: too and said what you. 218 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: Guys are saying, is it true? 219 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 5: Teresa is Jacqueline that or you know, when Jacqueline was on. 220 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: That's true. 221 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 5: I'm a twat and I listened you guys seemingly did 222 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: a retraction. 223 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: No, did we not ask her tough questions, because that's 224 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the thing. We asked Melissa tough questions that she could answer. 225 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: That Teresa, we were not allowed to ask those questions too. 226 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: We were told what we could ask and what we couldn't. 227 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: So that's the difference. And if you have to start protecting, 228 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: which I think you talk about, and. 229 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: I think you know that, I'm we're both pretty opinionated 230 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: and it's not going to take a phone call from 231 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: somebody to change our minds at all. 232 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: But the episodes have what has been what has changed 233 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: our minds because yes, talking to Melissa, who let us 234 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: ask her anything that helped. 235 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: But then once we kept watching the episodes and we. 236 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: Saw the curtain like drop between what was going on 237 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: with Louie and all of a sudden, Louis, I don't 238 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: think he has changed. 239 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: I think I'm. 240 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 5: Talking about when you guys had Jacqueline on the show, Yes, 241 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: and Jacqueline said some things and then Melissa contacted YouTube. 242 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: Oh we're not talking about Teresa. 243 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about when Jacqueline was on the show 244 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 5: and she said some things about Melissa and Teresa and 245 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 5: then YouTube in an episode where you talked about well, 246 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 5: Melissa contacted us. She said we were saying this. We 247 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 5: didn't say that, and I was like, look Melissa, And 248 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: by the way, I like Melissa. I think Melissa is beautiful. 249 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: She is Jennifer Lopez of Bravo. I think she is 250 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 5: a very pretty girl. 251 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: But YE just said beautiful. And I don't feel like 252 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: this is going to be a disc coming on good 253 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: We said we didn't. It's not fair that we only 254 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: heard one side. We only heard jilts and you have 255 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: to we have to hear books. 256 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: You have to understand Jacqueline's been out of the public 257 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: eye for over ten years now, right, so when she 258 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: came on the show, we had no idea what she's 259 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: going to say or to fact check at all. Right, 260 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 4: So when we got the call or text or whatever 261 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: it was from Melissa, it was her side, and I said, hey, 262 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 4: you should come on and give your side. 263 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 2: So we heard both sides. We never and I messaged 264 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: with Jacqueline about this. 265 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 4: Don't give me your sneaky eyes. No, I stop, Carlos, 266 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 4: I'm gonna come over to your house right now and 267 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: knock your shoes off the wall. 268 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: She goes, you know, I didn't, you know, I didn't 269 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: want to be this this and I said, listen, it's clickbait. 270 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Actually go in and listen to what we said, and 271 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: tamer and I heard out both sides. 272 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: There are certain things. 273 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: That I think that you said, Jacqueline that took it 274 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: too far. And there were certain things that Melissa said 275 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: that I thought took it too far. And that's what 276 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: we do. 277 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: We hear both sides, and that's why you're only as 278 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: good as last week's episode. 279 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: And right now there's a lot of shit going down. 280 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: This is juicy, don't you love it? Girl? So listen 281 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: that's my opinion. 282 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 5: So I wanted to address it first because you two 283 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 5: are my favorite podcasts besides my. 284 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: Thank you, so thank you. 285 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: Well. 286 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm that we got that out of the way, but 287 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: now you have to tell us your thoughts. 288 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: On the future. 289 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: I think it's time for the Gorgos to go. 290 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 5: I don't I'm not going to, you know, say anything 291 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 5: badly about them. And I do want to say this. 292 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 5: Melissa is beautiful, She's pretty. 293 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: You've told us that. That's like saying I like you. 294 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: I'm not finished. Melissa is beautiful, She's pretty. 295 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: Oh God, here we go again. 296 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: Let's just move on, Just move on. 297 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 5: Melissa was fantastic for the show a A I mean 298 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: fan at one point in time, and please quote me 299 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 5: on this, and I said this to Teresa. 300 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: Melissa was fantastic for the show. 301 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 5: She brought some great story out of that franchise, and 302 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: you cannot take that away from her. Joe Gorga is 303 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 5: one of the best house husbands of all time, top 304 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 5: top three. Even Joe Gorga is super cemented into the 305 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 5: success of that show due to the gravitas he brought 306 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 5: in the Bravado, and you cannot take that away from 307 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 5: Melissa and Joe. 308 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: They were fantastic for the show. Correct, correct. 309 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, this is what happened when you run through the 310 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 5: hamster whill of the same story every season and there's 311 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 5: no light at the end of the tunnel. It's time 312 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: is time for someone to hop off the hamster wheel. 313 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 5: And one thing Teresa has done unlike Melissa. Okay, and 314 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 5: this is no shade to Melissa's I report facts. Teresa 315 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 5: has given everything to the show, including her blood type. 316 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 5: She got married, divorced, had babies, went to jail. She 317 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 5: has stood alone against her cousins, her family. She has 318 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 5: never once complained about this is off limits. She has 319 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: given everything, the only things just saying, well, on my podcast, 320 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: I had nothing off limits. Oh well on the no 321 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 5: I listen, I think when it comes to what's happening 322 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: right now, and we'll get to that. 323 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: But my point is. 324 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 5: Melissa hasn't even give them one percent of that in 325 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 5: her personal story. 326 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: And if I'm wrong, Teddy and Tim or tell me. 327 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying that you're wrong hundred percent, But 328 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: my question is do you think that you would rather 329 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: hear more about Danielle and Rachel's personal story? 330 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: That's my question. 331 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not saying that at all. 332 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: Now, you're basically saying that the show can go on 333 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: without one of them. 334 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 5: Quote me on this, The Real Housewives of New Jersey 335 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 5: cannot go on without Teresa Judice. 336 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: Okay, it's just Teresa's amazing housewife. I also like Melissa, 337 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 4: and I think she's amazing and. 338 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: I love her. 339 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 4: I wish that they could squash it and move on. 340 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: I do too. I'm gonna tell you, I think there is. 341 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: Season of them trying to squash it. 342 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 4: Just one one more. 343 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: No, I'm done, I'm over it. I'm bored. Let me 344 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: tell you where Melissa went wrong. 345 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 5: Okay, and Tamra, you have proven that the Real Housewives 346 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 5: of Orange County cannot move on without you. 347 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is fast. 348 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 5: She would go out one season and got back the next. 349 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that's power. But we'll talk about that later. 350 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: Cam Town. 351 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 5: So when it comes to New Jersey, you need Teresa 352 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: because she is the epicenter of that show and no 353 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 5: matter what she does, she is polarizing to watch, and 354 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 5: she understands how to make TV magic with the other women. 355 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 5: Melissa went wrong when she decided to constantly go against Teresa. 356 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 5: It's one of those things where I would have been like, 357 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 5: you know what. 358 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: Would we be best friends? Never? But for the sake 359 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 3: of the bigger picture, I'm. 360 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 5: Going to get along because I want to be able 361 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 5: to survive on the show. 362 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 3: I would have done that. 363 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: I agree with you in certain aspects. 364 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: However, what I didn't like in the finale episode was 365 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: when it's very clear that Teresa has now pulled Teresa 366 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: and Louis or it was Louie or whomever pulls Joe 367 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: aside says he should leave Melissa. 368 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 2: All of that. 369 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: When you say that they're willing to do anything on 370 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: the show, that should have happened on the show, because 371 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: clearly she had Jen Aiden or Danielle go And. 372 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: Do you don't think you think those two went and 373 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: did that on their own. 374 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 5: No, so listen, No, I watched the exact same episode. 375 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 5: I believe strongly that Teresa knows no matter what I 376 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: say about Melissa, whether it's true, a rumor or false, 377 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: my brother would never have my side. So I do 378 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: believe that when Louie called Joe over, I strongly believe 379 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 5: Teresa said, I don't want to parts of it, Like, 380 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 5: if you want to do that, Louis, great, I don't 381 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 5: want to parts of it because at the end of 382 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 5: the day, it will always come back to me and 383 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 5: let's keep it real. Then Teddy walters, Yes, why didn't 384 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 5: Melissa bring it up on the show If someone accused 385 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 5: me of something false like Kyle. 386 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: Said, thank you, I said the same thing. I should 387 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 4: have brought it out in the beginning. 388 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: I would have brought it out. 389 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 5: Why keep it if it's so insanely crazy to the team. 390 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 4: I do, and I said the same thing I would have. 391 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: She had to have known this was going to come 392 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: out one way or another. If on top of it 393 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: was the test. 394 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: I think it was the test. This was her final 395 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: because you see her trying to play nice. I think 396 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: in her mind she was saying, and listen, I haven't 397 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: talked to her about this. 398 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: But she will now she's gonna call you after this hour. 399 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: But I thought was listen, because I love you, Melissa, 400 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: love you, love you, Melissa. I can be kind of 401 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: once you do something to me and you cross the line, 402 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: then you can be a little bit dead to me, 403 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: like I have that. Yeah, that that's kind of my 404 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: personality trait. It's not the best. But my guess was 405 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: she she's kind of reached her final thing. She heard 406 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: the rumor, Joe confronted her, they talked through it, and 407 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: then she just sat there and waited because she knew 408 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: in the back of her mind, Teresa is going to 409 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: make sure one way or another, this comes out on 410 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: the show. 411 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 4: And that. 412 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: And that and I and I truly believe. 413 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: That, and I think that that's why when Danielle goes 414 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: to talk to her. She's like, you can see Melissa, 415 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: she's baiting her. She's like, is it about me? 416 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: Oh? 417 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: Oh oh? 418 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: Is it about the cheating? 419 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: You know? 420 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Like I think that was her final test and in 421 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: her opinion or in her mind, Teresa failed it. 422 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: Teresa did exactly what. 423 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: And then again, you know, I look at it in 424 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: another perspective, like if something doesn't happen on camera, then 425 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: it's really hard to get it into the show. 426 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 5: I listen, I see it from a whole different lens 427 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 5: as a producer and a viewer. If I was Melissa 428 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 5: and that happened first day of filming, Joe's in the 429 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 5: kitchen making pizza and he's talking to Melissa, can you 430 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 5: believe these mfrs had the audacity to meet with me. 431 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: I know, we're trying to like support their wet do 432 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So, because that did not happen, 433 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 5: it does beg the question are you trying to hide something? 434 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: But my first question is was he using a skinny 435 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Italian pizza oven when he was making a pizza? 436 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: Do you think that Louie is trying to help get 437 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: the family back together or do you think he's hurting see. 438 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest here. 439 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: And I said this on my podcast. I'm so over 440 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 5: Teresa versus Melissa as the main story. I watched the 441 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 5: first two episodes and I was tuned out. I couldn't 442 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 5: take any more of the same recycled storyline. Louie has 443 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 5: messaged me, he has said very great things to me 444 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 5: about Teresa whatever. So I don't know Louie personally, and 445 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 5: I'm just being honest, So I haven't watched the whole 446 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 5: season to see that. I did watch last week's episode 447 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 5: because it was the finale, and based on what I 448 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 5: know personally, I have heard that Louie really tried to 449 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 5: make things work, especially when you think about last year's 450 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 5: reunion where Teresa hated Margaret and he was like, it's okay, 451 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 5: it's not that deep, Margaret, I forgive you. 452 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: It's all good, and Teresa like, what are you doing? 453 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: So allegedly hired bau Didal to Yeah, give us your 454 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: thoughts on that. 455 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: As a producer, if you find out one of the 456 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 4: cast members is digging deep into people hiring private investigators, 457 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 4: all this, is that like off limits? Or is that 458 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 4: like I think go for it. 459 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 5: I think it's about I think it's off limits, and 460 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 5: I think nobody listen. We have to get back into 461 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 5: the show being real but also being fun and being 462 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 5: whimsical and not dark. And to me, anything that involves government, police, 463 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 5: it's dark, dark, and and the audience doesn't care to 464 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 5: see that unless it's something that is rooted in reality. 465 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: If you had a. 466 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: Choice, yes, and you had one who you could be 467 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: in a relationship with, would you trust Joe Gorga or 468 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Louis Moore. 469 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 3: If I was Theresa? 470 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: No, just if you if you were just a random 471 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: if you had to bang one of them, if you 472 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: not bang, be in a relationship. What's the difference somebody 473 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: managing your money, talking about money, your financials, business, all 474 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: of it. Hold your person, you go pee your. 475 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: Mrse That's what I need. 476 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 5: No, I am basing this off of what I've been 477 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 5: seeing because I've never been around Joe personally, nor Louie. 478 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: Because Joe has shown. 479 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 5: Me who he was for thirteen years and Louie has 480 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 5: shown me one year of stuff. I will go with 481 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 5: Louie just based on what I've been watching. Ooh, the 482 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 5: silence killed me. 483 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: Wow, I'm gonna have to take a minute. 484 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to plead the fifth on my response 485 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: because I disagree. 486 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 3: I Laen, I'm based fear. 487 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: I'm like in a sweat right now. 488 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: I will say every time that I have met Lou, 489 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: I think it's been two times now. 490 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: Maybe also, I never met him, So how was when you. 491 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: Met him very nice to me? 492 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: I met him out the MTV Awards over a year 493 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: ago and he was super kind to me. Came up 494 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 4: to me, asked me about Eddie cut Fitness, my dog Ryan. 495 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: He knew everything about me. 496 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: Because he's a man. 497 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 4: And then Shannon told me she met him at Bravo 498 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: con and he's clearly a fan and he knew everything 499 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: about her. Went down? 500 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: How is this? 501 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: This? 502 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 4: This, this this, And I'm like, oh wow, that's that's interesting. 503 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna get mad because he's a fan, 504 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: because we love her fans, but oh weird, kind of weird. 505 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: But my question is, no, who else was? I mean, 506 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: my thought know who else was really nice to me 507 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: when I met them? Randall Limmitt and I just watched 508 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: that Hulu documentary and I'm scared not too. 509 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: I haven't watched that yet. 510 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna say Brooks was nice to you. Okay, Well, 511 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: Brooks is very. 512 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: Nice to me. I just never know hoty of people 513 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: in general are nice when you meet them. 514 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 5: So no, That's why the whole Dirty John installment was 515 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 5: so genius because they start off nice for reasons. So, 516 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 5: like I said, I am being very honest because I 517 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 5: haven't watched the entire season. Obviously, you two know more 518 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 5: than I do about his behavior. I haven't seen it 519 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 5: about I haven't seen the whole season because I'm turned 520 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 5: off by Teresa versus Melissa's storyline, which is why I'm like, 521 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 5: something has to give. 522 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: What if they get rid of Teresa and keep. 523 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: Melissa, oh, then burn the show down. It's not gonna 524 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 3: take some. 525 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: I think they have I think they are keep but 526 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: I think they have to keep both or I don't 527 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: think Teresa goes. 528 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: I think Melissa. This is my opinion. ESA's not going anywhere. Now. 529 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: There's two scenarios that could work. You could spin off 530 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 5: Teresa into her own land of spin offs, right Louie 531 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 5: the Girls blah blah blah, and Teresa makes appearances on 532 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 5: Jersey as like og frienda Right, Hey, Jennifer Aiden hey, girls. 533 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: Whatever. 534 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 5: That's one case scenario. Obviously, that means Melissa stays. The 535 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 5: other case scenario is Melissa's on a pause and they 536 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 5: see how things are without her. But to have them 537 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 5: both co exist in the same season, I just think 538 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 5: it's a recipe for disaster. 539 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: So they need a break. 540 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: Now. 541 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: There has been talk about Teresa getting the spinoff. I've heard. 542 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, if it's just chatter on Instagram. 543 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah I would, yeah, I mean, look at that, Look 544 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: at all the other things we watched. 545 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: We we're open. I can't wait to get off this 546 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: so I can watch the Bama Rush documentary. Now. 547 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: Now we've heard that they're on hold right now. 548 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: Until then, Andy said that was a slight click bait. 549 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: He was like, by hold, I mean, it's just we're 550 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: waiting a little bit longer too. 551 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: Like they did with Beverly Hills. 552 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: Correct, Let's take a little break and come back and 553 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: switch into a couple additional questions we have regarding Atlanta, 554 00:28:51,600 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: and then recap this episode. 555 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I have a quick question for you. 556 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: Have you seen the OC trailer? 557 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: I have and thoughts on it. 558 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 5: I was underwhelmed because I know there's more to the 559 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 5: season a lot. There's a lot more to the season, 560 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 5: so I thought it started off interesting. Obviously, Honey, you 561 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 5: throwing a napkin in someone's faces. 562 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: Like genius, that was me behaving? 563 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: Who girlfriend? Oh lord Jesus. So look, I want the 564 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: world to know this. 565 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 5: And Tamra's not paying me on Patreon like Robin Dixon 566 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 5: with her stories. 567 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: So this is coming straight from the horse's mouth. 568 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 5: I know a lot of people involved in OC, and 569 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 5: you're hearing it from me. This season of OC is fantastic, 570 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 5: and the trailer did not give a lot to it, 571 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 5: which listen, sometimes that happens, but that trailer does not 572 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 5: indicate what this season is going to because I heard 573 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 5: it is one of the best seasons ever. 574 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: Me too, and I lived in that so I was 575 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: very like you, underwhelmed when I saw it. I think 576 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 4: the whole cast was. I think, of having two not 577 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 4: so great seasons that they should have put a little 578 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: bit more punched to the trailer. They didn't have to 579 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: expose at all, but I felt like it needed a 580 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: little more drama. 581 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Teddy Walters believed that they wanted to under deliver on 582 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: the trailer so that when it comes to the show 583 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: people will be excited again and they'll be like. 584 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: I don't know at all. I disagree with that. 585 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: Well why because you think that New York is going 586 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: to be the world's best season. 587 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, but that was a great trailer. 588 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I felt like they could have they could 589 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: have balanced it out a little bit more. We could 590 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 4: have we could have had a little bit more drama. 591 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 4: I just I would have seemed like to seem just 592 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: a little bit more, a little bit more. 593 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 5: I agree, because you got to understand there's so much 594 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 5: competition in in unscripted space, and obviously Netflix is doing 595 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 5: a lot of unscripted, so we're competing with the streamers. 596 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 5: This is a generation of people who have add and 597 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 5: you must show them something quick like quick that that 598 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 5: gravitates towards like I must, I must, I must watch it. 599 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 5: And although I agree with Teddy that could have been 600 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 5: the device. You can't play with a A the first 601 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 5: original franchise. 602 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: You can't play with that one. Baby. 603 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. What is your current relationship with Andy and the network? 604 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: Now? 605 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 5: Listen, I have a wonderful relationship with Bravo, with Andy, Bravo, listen. 606 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 5: I will always give Bravo the props for giving this 607 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 5: young African American man the first ever black man to 608 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 5: produce The Housewives from an executive producer level, and. 609 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: That has changed my career. 610 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm the first, and that has changed my career. 611 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 5: And I will always, always, always, always, always appreciate that 612 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 5: network for take making a chance on someone that they 613 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 5: felt was the DNA of that franchise. 614 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: So I love that beyond thankful, beyond. Yeah. 615 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I know you've moved on since then, but 616 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 4: would you ever produce another Housewife show? 617 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 5: Of course yeah you would. Oh yeah, no, I would 618 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 5: love to absolutely, one thousand percent. 619 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: It'll be spicy. 620 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: Well we'll come to oc first. 621 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: Please, speaking of shows you produced, I have to talk 622 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: to you a little bit about Martel. 623 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: Let's go ye okay, we need clarification on that. We 624 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: need clarification. 625 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: When you heard that Chara was dating Martel, did you 626 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: think it was going to be a good match? 627 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: So funny story. 628 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: I'm not the mutual friend who set them up, Like 629 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 5: God's honest truth, I'm not that person. So I was 630 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 5: driving down the highway when I got a phone call 631 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 5: that Martel and Seve were seeing each other, and I 632 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 5: thought it was bullshit. 633 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: I said this, It doesn't even make sense. 634 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 5: Number One, I'm very close to Charay, and obviously Martell's 635 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 5: on my show, and he and I are closed too, 636 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 5: and they never said anything. 637 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: So I did not believe that. 638 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 5: I thought there's another situation where two people are being made. 639 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: To be in a relationship. 640 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 5: Until two weeks later, Martel called me and he said, 641 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 5: hold on, somebody wants to say hello, Lo and behold 642 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 5: it was Charae. And then I started to dig more 643 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 5: and I realized that these people who are super attractive 644 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 5: right both in reality television, they are really bonding on 645 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 5: a different level and having fun. Do I think they'll 646 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 5: get married, have babies and all that shit. No, I 647 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 5: think they're having great sex. I think they're having a 648 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 5: great time, and I think Charay is living her best life. 649 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 650 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 2: What do you think about Kenya fieud listen. 651 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: I love Kenya. She's a personal friend of mine. 652 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 5: Kenya is great television, and this is my opinion, I 653 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 5: think Kenya knew how to start the party. You know, 654 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 5: Kenya Atlanta has a lot of pressure to be great 655 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 5: because at one point in time it was the number 656 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 5: one show on the network and the number one franchise 657 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 5: of Housewives right. Ye, so there's a lot of pressure 658 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 5: for Atlanta, and I think Kenya wanted to get the 659 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 5: party started first episode out the gate. She got it 660 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 5: and she did it, and that's why Kenya is a 661 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 5: force multiplier. 662 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: Do you have you seen the dms? 663 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 3: Yes, so you know what's funny again? A go Saxtor 664 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 3: Carlos Martel. 665 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 5: DMed her because me and Kenya went on ig live 666 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 5: because Kenya is a fan of my show Love and 667 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 5: Marriage Huntspill. Yes, three years ago, Kenya and I went 668 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 5: on Instagram Live to talk about the show and she 669 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 5: said very nice things about Martel three years ago. 670 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: Did what were the very nice things that she said? 671 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 5: Oh, you know, listen, he's a great father. I see 672 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 5: him trying to you know, do well to his current wife. Yes, 673 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 5: he cheated, but I see that he's trying to make 674 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 5: things happen. 675 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm rooting for them as a company. 676 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: Why did he put kind and why on the DM 677 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: that we saw did he put kind in quotes? 678 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 5: Well? 679 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: Look, I don't think he, you know, read too much. 680 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 5: Listen, straight guys don't read too much in unless I'm wrong, 681 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 5: I don't think straight guys read too much into like words. 682 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for the kind words. 683 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I literally I don't know, but but I did 684 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 5: say this at the end of the day. Is it 685 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 5: appropriate for a married because at that time he was 686 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 5: still married, okay, is it appropriate for a married man 687 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 5: to DM any woman whether or not is to say 688 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 5: thank you for the compliment. 689 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 4: I don't mind, DoD, I don't know. I mean, if 690 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 4: you go in deep burden, it's like, hey, I really 691 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: like it, show like yeahd like startup conversations, and then 692 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: I might get a little like, hmmm, what's going on here? 693 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 4: So you and you're saying that the DM that he 694 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 4: sent to Kenya was not flirting or are. 695 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 5: You saying no, Because when guys flirt via DM, they 696 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 5: use emojis, whether it's an egg plant, yeah, it's the 697 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 5: egg plants. The fire emoji is a wink. He used 698 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 5: no emojis, and he said thank you for the kind 699 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 5: words that you said when you went live with Carlos. 700 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: But then what. 701 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: About when Candy said, Candy said, we're only seeing a 702 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: portion of these dms. 703 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: Are we missing a part of the dms? Or is 704 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 2: that the full DM? 705 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 3: It's the full DM? 706 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 5: Because think about it, Martel had the receipt he showed 707 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 5: the DM. 708 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: That screenshot that they showed was Martel's. 709 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 5: If you felt that Martel did something crazy, let's say 710 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 5: you did delete it. Why can't you remember what he said? 711 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 5: And we need to think about that. She ever once 712 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 5: said what he said? Thought all she said was he 713 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 5: damned me, because when you say a man damns a woman, 714 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 5: you instantly go to he's flirting. 715 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 4: So you think she wiped it clean. 716 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 5: Listen, I think Kinga is a force multiplier and she 717 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 5: wanted to make sure Atlanta premiere did not suck. 718 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 3: And guess what it worked. 719 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: It didn't. 720 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great season premiere. 721 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: As we get into you know, this week's episode, speaking 722 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: of relationships that may be a little bit tricky, Ralph 723 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: starting it off and saying that he and Drew. 724 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: Are like Ike and Tina. That is not like a 725 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: Freudian slip. 726 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 4: That's a bad choice of words. 727 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: Did you know going, Because listen, we've had Ralph and 728 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: Drew on love them. 729 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 3: Both got in Vegas, right, Yeah, we all had. 730 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: A last But when he said, even as I'm watching that, 731 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: as they're coming in and we're seeing it, I can 732 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: see them trying to. 733 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: Force that they're good. Mm hmm, are you seeing that too? 734 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 735 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Because Atlanta Housewives films and you two know this 736 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 5: for like three to four months, and they got they 737 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 5: filed for divorce a couple of weeks after they wrapped 738 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 5: principal photography. So something must have been going down prior 739 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 5: in those three to four months that you guys were filming. 740 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 5: And that's the reason why a lot of people are 741 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 5: having issue with why aren't people giving us real conversations 742 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 5: about what's happening in your household? And I think because 743 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 5: Rap and Drew showed us a lot of problems early 744 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 5: on in their seasons on the show. I do think 745 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 5: they purposely tried to say, let's show them that we're happy, 746 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 5: so that we're not repeating the same narrative versus let's 747 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 5: show them that we're struggling with whatever situation they could 748 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 5: have been in. 749 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:03,479 Speaker 2: Right. 750 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I know this isn't a relationship question, 751 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: but do you think that Courtney and Ralph are actually cousins? 752 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: Are they just as much of cousins as Candy is 753 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: friends with Courtney? 754 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 5: They're as much as cousins as me and Tamar are 755 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 5: related it. 756 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: I need to check the bloodline, sister, because. 757 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: Show me the twenty three and me exactly I need 758 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: to see Listen, I need those receipts like I need 759 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: King's receipts. 760 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 5: So we need to start receipting on Atlanta Housewives. 761 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: Honey, Oh my god. 762 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 4: To switch gears a little bit. The scandal scan Now 763 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 4: you have had a scandal that happened as well between 764 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 4: I Have Candy and Phedro. That was a pretty big scandal. 765 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 4: I thought you were involved in that. 766 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 5: I see, listen the problem and you and you two 767 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 5: would know this. There's the real life that happens on 768 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 5: the show, and then there's the show that happens on 769 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 5: social media. 770 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: It's a different show. 771 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 3: It's a whole different show. 772 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 773 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 5: I along with the Bravo executives in Dave Quinn's New 774 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 5: York Times bestseller book Not All Diamonds and Roseye, I 775 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 5: said I had nothing to do with that Phaedra a 776 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 5: Candy scandal. Bravo executives are quoted Carlos had nothing to 777 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 5: do with it. 778 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 4: To this day, you still get blamed. 779 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 5: Right listen, I get blamed if the sky turns green, 780 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 5: anything that happens. And you too know this as it's because, listen, 781 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 5: I am the most popular producer that that has come 782 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 5: out of producing Raal Housewife because of my on camera career, right, 783 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 5: so I get blamed for everything. I had nothing to 784 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 5: do with it. Bravo has made statements about it in 785 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,959 Speaker 5: this very book. But it's funny because when people see 786 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 5: the truth in black and white, it doesn't go viral 787 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 5: like a lie does. 788 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 3: And that's the unfortunate part. As you two know about 789 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: being you. 790 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, known, Well, they want a scandal, they want 791 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 4: to believe in a scandal. What are your thoughts about scandal? 792 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 5: Oh well, listen, okay, truth moment. I'm not a big 793 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 5: fan of VPR. I have too much going on, right, 794 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 5: so I gotta select what shows on watching. But girls, 795 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 5: I did watch the finale and I didn't even know 796 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 5: backstory because I get it because I used to watch 797 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 5: the first two seasons. By far will go down in 798 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 5: history as one of the best episodes in the reality 799 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 5: TV zeitgeists history. It was, you know what, the best 800 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 5: part if you saw the troubling. 801 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 3: Emotion from the men. 802 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 5: You don't see that often on reality television. You saw 803 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 5: Tom Schwartz like his life was flashing before his eyes, 804 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 5: which is why he wore glasses because he's like, I 805 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 5: canceled because Tom. First of all, Tom Schwartz, you are super. 806 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 3: Fucking hot, but oh Tom Schwartz can get it. So look, 807 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 3: Tom Shwarts. 808 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, you are afraid because 809 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 5: you allowed this to take place in your home. 810 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 3: And that's why, guys, when your boy cheats. 811 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna care if it's with the girl, the bottle 812 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 5: girl at the nightclub, you have to tell your homeboy, 813 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 5: I'm actually friends with your girl. 814 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 3: Don't do this around me. 815 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're guilty by associations. 816 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: Not only did he let it happen in his household, 817 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: he created another. He helped them create another storyline allegedly surrounding 818 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: it that she was into him, that she was into 819 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: him and they were gonna kiss and all like, I mean, 820 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: it's just all so. 821 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 3: I mean. 822 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: But now the fact that allegedly she's pregnant and he's 823 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: over in Texas or wherever with some other influencer check 824 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: that's now disabled her Instagram. 825 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, just. 826 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 2: Dropped, just dropped today. I'm upset. 827 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: Get your Instagram back up and running, because I need 828 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: to be stalking you right now, and I can only 829 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: find four photos. 830 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Patty Water to the rescue. 831 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 4: And then Ariana has come out and said she won't 832 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 4: film with him, which bad talk. We talked to Andy 833 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 4: about that. 834 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: She's gonna end up filming with him, the same way. 835 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: She's doing a Sofi commercial right now where she's pretending 836 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: she's moving in her house but really she's just moving up, 837 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: and it's all like, come on, they all know what 838 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: they're doing. 839 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, come on, girl, you haven't been this 840 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 5: relevant since the show started, and you are now a 841 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 5: household name. You were on the view with Whoopee Goldberg, 842 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 5: you are now the face of this show. 843 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 3: So guess what, honey. 844 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 5: As a producer, listen to me and listen to me now, 845 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 5: you need to film every scene with these people because 846 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 5: it's going to make you like a boat relevant in 847 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 5: The Hottest Chick on Bravo. 848 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 1: She can't overplay her hand. If she overplays her hand, 849 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: then it will switch, the narrative will. 850 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 4: Backfire on her. 851 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 3: Yes, sure, but I'm. 852 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 2: Not even supposed to be talking about Vanda. 853 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: We have to get back to Atlanta, which leads me 854 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: to money Joyce. 855 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 3: You call her money Joyce. 856 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 4: I'm talking about Mama choice. 857 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: So I loved that in this episode the amount of 858 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: fourth wall breaks, Like first Marlowe brings up the reunion, 859 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: then they're talking about Bravo coonomy it's a last year, 860 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: Like no, I love I love that they're saying, Brava, 861 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm so sick. 862 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 2: When I saw you in New York. 863 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I don't want to hear that. Mama 864 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 4: Joyce is never respected Candy's marriage at all. She's never 865 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 4: stood up for you know, Todd. She's never She just 866 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 4: kind of Candy gets the kind of shut down when 867 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,959 Speaker 4: Mama is going after Todd. 868 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 2: But do you think My question is, you know, for Carlos, 869 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 2: what do you think about her mom saying these things? 870 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 2: And then what are your. 871 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: Thoughts of Todd as a producer, as a person, as 872 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: someone you actually know. 873 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 4: Look at that look on his. 874 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 5: Face, Teddy Walters, you gotta love her. 875 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 3: I love this want she just it. 876 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 4: She just wants you to say something till we get 877 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 4: the good. 878 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 3: I know. 879 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 5: This is why to Teas in a Pot is literally 880 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 5: my most download a podcast beside my own. 881 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 3: Okay, oh my god. 882 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 5: So I'll start with the Mama Joyce question and then 883 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 5: I'll get into Todd because Teddy Walters is doing a 884 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 5: twenty twenty Fine Time Live interview exclusive at ten o'clock 885 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 5: pm AC. 886 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: I seriously think she has a career. 887 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 3: I love it so much. I love it so much. 888 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 3: You need to get on the view. Okay, so she does. 889 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't mean that one to cheat on me to 890 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: get on it, though, Like, let's find another way. 891 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 5: Oh good, No, Mama Joyce will never like Todd w 892 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 5: when And you two know this being mothers now granted, Teddy, 893 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 5: your children are younger, obviously, tam are your children you have, 894 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 5: some are grown and you tell me if I'm wrong. 895 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 5: I strongly believe when a mother makes up her mind 896 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 5: on the person her child is dating, and she's did 897 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 5: set on that opinion, nothing's going to change it. 898 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 3: Nothing's going to change it. 899 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 4: But don't you think after so many years I don't 900 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 4: know how many years have been together, but they have 901 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 4: two kids together, don't you think that she'd come around 902 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 4: a little bit more? 903 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 5: Not when you are an older woman like Mama Joy's. 904 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 5: Mama Joyce isn't in her forties or fifties with a 905 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 5: grown kid. You know, Mama Joyce is much older. She 906 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 5: looks good, she's sexy, she's she's you know, she has 907 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 5: a lot of personality. I know Mama Joyce personally, and 908 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 5: when her mind is made up, her mind is made up. 909 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 5: But think about it, it's not just with Todd, is 910 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 5: with Candy's friends too. When she is dead set on 911 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 5: this is who I think you are, nothing's going to 912 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 5: change it. 913 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: Well, so my question then, is do you think that 914 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: the relationship between Candy and Todd. Do you think it's 915 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: true love or do you think he's just out for 916 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: clout money. 917 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 5: No, I think it's true love because at the end 918 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 5: of the day, you can't you can't. 919 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 3: You can't hide the fact. 920 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 5: That when they're around each other, they're both gazing. 921 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 3: In each other's eyes. You can't. 922 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 5: You can't hide that they love each other because think 923 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:45,720 Speaker 5: about it, they have ambition, and they are a power 924 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 5: couple and they thrive off of that, and they they 925 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 5: love talking about business and building this empire. So no, 926 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 5: I one thousand percent believe that they are one hundred 927 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,439 Speaker 5: percent in love with each other. 928 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of talk in the show that 929 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 4: Candy doesn't really give a lot to the show. 930 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:08,479 Speaker 5: See that's interesting because okay, so I remember producing season six. 931 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 5: This was my first time as an executive producer. Me 932 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 5: and Candy had a conversation and the only thing I 933 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 5: can say to you all is Candy is invested in 934 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 5: making sure she has staying power on that show. Season 935 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 5: six is the highest rated season of Atlanta Housewives. One 936 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 5: of the reasons because Candy brought so much to that 937 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 5: season with Mama Joyce and Todd and her best friend Carmen, 938 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 5: and Mama Joyce taking off the shoe at the Bridle 939 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 5: shop to hit Carmen over the head with she had 940 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 5: a wedding special. 941 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 3: I don't know too many. 942 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 5: Housewives who would have a conversation about a prenup on camera. 943 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 3: She did that. 944 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 5: Candy has given so much to that show that I 945 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 5: just sub with the notion that she hides stuff because 946 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 5: that's not what I see or what I know to 947 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 5: be true. I think people are saying that because of 948 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 5: the legal situation going on at her restaurants. And I 949 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 5: defended her by saying, and you two know, there's being 950 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 5: business owners. When something happens in business, your lawyers tell 951 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 5: you do not say anything because they can subpoena the 952 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 5: tapes and whatever you say can be used against you in. 953 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 3: The court of law. So I disregard that note. 954 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: But then they did talk about it in the confessional, 955 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: which is what I was confused about, because when they 956 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 1: were in scene and Todd and Candy were talking and. 957 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 2: Was it her cousin. 958 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: Her cousin was there, and you know, they're starting in production, 959 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: walks in and they're breaking the fourth wall and they're saying, like, 960 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: we need to talk about the elephant in the room 961 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: here and so on and so forth. They don't really 962 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,720 Speaker 1: talk about it. You see Todd go, you know, it's legal, 963 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But then they panned a Candy's confessional 964 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: where she explains what happened. 965 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I suspect she those are words from her attorney. 966 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 2: Say that's what I was going to say. 967 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 3: I was gonna say. 968 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 5: So what happened, just so the listeners can know in 969 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 5: real time when she and Todd were caught off guard 970 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 5: with the producer, Hey, Eric, the producer saying, let's address 971 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 5: the elephant in the room in real time, they did 972 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 5: not know what to say. So what happened was we 973 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 5: tape confessionals two weeks three weeks after a scene as 974 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 5: taped so they had time to really go over the 975 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 5: verbiage with their attorney, and that's why she said her 976 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 5: confessional and not in the bear tee. 977 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so then. 978 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: All right, we'll back up a little bit and then 979 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: we'll get back into that a little bit more. But 980 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: we they they show Candace calling Drew asking her to 981 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,959 Speaker 1: come perform, and at this time Courtney's over. They're having 982 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: all these conversations, and then Candy and Drew her on 983 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: the phone, and Drew's kind of acting like she doesn't 984 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: one the magnitude of the Courtney issue. 985 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 2: But then they go to support her mm hmm. 986 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: And for forty three seconds, for forty three seconds of 987 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: her singing. 988 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 4: And do you think possibly she's sang more and it's 989 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 4: just an editing thing? 990 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 5: No, I mean, anything is possible, right when it comes 991 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 5: to the shady editors at Bravo. But I will say, 992 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 5: because it was such a big story, they know that 993 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 5: Drew would have went on Twitter and say, guys, that's 994 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 5: effed up. 995 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,720 Speaker 3: So no, I think she's sang for forty three seconds 996 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 3: for sure. 997 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, what about how old? I loved all forty 998 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 4: three seconds and I love seeing can just do the crossover. 999 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 4: And even her husband was there, Chris. 1000 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 3: I love a crossover. 1001 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 1: Agree that has never been so happy not to have 1002 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: other women coming after his marriage. 1003 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 2: At that moment, he said, Yeah, I'll give you flowers 1004 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 2: with babies, bread and do all the things. Yeah. 1005 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 1: Also, PSA to all gentlemen, not that any of them 1006 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast. 1007 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 2: No women want flowers that have baby's breath in them. 1008 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna slip up to the Ralphs or 1009 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: wherever you're going to buy the flowers, pull all the 1010 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: baby's breath out, because once we see that, it is 1011 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: a red flag that you. 1012 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,919 Speaker 2: Got it from a grocery store. 1013 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 3: Fifty five. 1014 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm from the era of baby's breath. I love it. 1015 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 4: Bring babies, give me a carnation too. 1016 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 2: Oh okay, now. 1017 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 4: That actually I don't really like flowers. Oh I'm not 1018 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 4: a big flower person. 1019 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 3: Yea, I get well. 1020 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 4: Thanks. 1021 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: I do think that Drew's performance lasted longer than the 1022 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: work that Marlow's life coach has done on her. 1023 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 2: After that, you. 1024 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 3: Shady, shady, Teddy shady. 1025 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: But can you explain I'm a little bit lost on 1026 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: what happened at the end here I. 1027 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 3: Can tell you exactly what happened. 1028 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 4: That was very confusing. 1029 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 2: Confused. 1030 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 5: Okay, some of the housewives feel like Candy's businesses are protected, 1031 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 5: that she's not allowed to have people question anything relating 1032 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 5: to her business. 1033 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 3: That's that's what they think. I'm not saying I think 1034 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 3: that way. 1035 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 5: They think that way, So think about it, ladies. 1036 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 3: When Drew brought up the. 1037 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 5: Incident, she said that I work and not the S 1038 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 5: because the S is silent, right, So she said incident. 1039 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 5: And you can tell that Drew is very nervous to 1040 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 5: ask Candy the question. 1041 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 3: When that happens. 1042 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 5: Nine times out of ten, she is being prepped to 1043 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 5: bring it up because you know when things happen on 1044 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 5: the blogs, rightfully, so you need to talk about it 1045 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:45,919 Speaker 5: on this show. 1046 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 3: That's paying you, right for sure. 1047 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 5: I believe that none of the women had enough balls 1048 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 5: to do it, So shout out to Drew for doing it. 1049 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 3: Drew is a teddy of Atlanta. 1050 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 5: Drew is like Drew's like, fuck it, I'll do it, 1051 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 5: like I want to go home, like fuck this now, 1052 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 5: because you're going to keep us here for two more 1053 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 5: hours and I actually want to go home and seeing 1054 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,479 Speaker 5: for sixty seconds a post. 1055 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm awkwardly gonna say incident, which is going to piss 1056 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 1: people off. 1057 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,760 Speaker 5: Yes, like Drew did, right so, because Drew nervously asked 1058 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 5: the question and Marlowe is sitting there, like, say it, 1059 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 5: say the S word, say it. When Drew did not 1060 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 5: say the S word, marlow got mad because in her mind, 1061 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 5: Marlowe allegedly felt that once again, we're protecting her business, 1062 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 5: and that's why. 1063 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 3: She was upset. 1064 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 5: Candy said, once again it is a legal matter. I 1065 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 5: can't talk about it, and they said, all right, scene, 1066 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 5: it's done, let's go home. And that's why you saw 1067 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 5: a flash to a black card that said ten minutes 1068 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 5: after we wrapped. That indicates that the moment Drew asked 1069 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 5: the question, Candy answered, they were like, nothing to see here. 1070 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 5: So as they're wrapping gear, they're pulling down the lights, 1071 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 5: they discovered Drew and Marlowe having an off camera conversation, 1072 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 5: which is why I said. The producer had his iPhone 1073 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 5: and was filming it because he saw it was getting heated. 1074 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 5: And what Marlowe was upset with is the fact that 1075 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 5: number one, she feels like they protect her businesses and 1076 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 5: number two, she did say this yesterday, so breaking News. 1077 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 5: Marlowe said out of her own mouth because she went 1078 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 5: on Instagram live. 1079 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 3: That's what they do. 1080 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 5: She said that she felt that because her nephew worked 1081 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 5: at one of Candy's restaurants when he passed away. And 1082 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 5: let's be clear, her nephew did not pass away at 1083 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 5: any Yes, let's be let's let's make that very clear. 1084 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,879 Speaker 5: Marlow's nephew did not pass away at any of Candy's establishment. 1085 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 5: Marlow is saying that when her nephew died, she expected 1086 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 5: Candy to do more because he worked at the restaurant before. 1087 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 3: Okay, now what do we think about that? 1088 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: Well, my first question is, yes, I get that they 1089 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: broke down, But my question is why would Marlow be 1090 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: upset with Drew and Drew Drew's the only one that 1091 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: had because she bring it. 1092 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 2: Up say the S word. 1093 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 3: It's because she did not say the S word, and 1094 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 3: she felt like Drew copped out. 1095 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 2: She could have brought it up herself. 1096 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: So speaking of copping out any like any one of 1097 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 1: those other women could have also brought it out. 1098 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 2: Drew so confused, like if you're going to be. 1099 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: Annoyed at somebody, be annoyed at Candy and say hey, Candy, 1100 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 1: you know, like we all talk about our stuff. And 1101 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: then because at that moment, you could tell that it 1102 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,760 Speaker 1: bothered Candy because Candy went back to something that Marlow 1103 00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: did twenty three years ago, allegedly, And so that's what 1104 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: I That's where I was lost. 1105 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 2: I was like, why are you so mad at Drew? 1106 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 2: She at least did something the other great, didn't I say? 1107 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 4: She was just taking out her anger on Drew. 1108 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 3: I don't think it was necess That's exactly what it was. 1109 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 4: It was just she was fed up. She thought there 1110 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 4: was no cameras on her probably. Yeah, she lost her shit, 1111 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 4: ye shed Yeah, And it's a personal thing, like her 1112 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 4: nephew was shot. She felt like Candy should have stopped up. 1113 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1114 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 4: Didn't they show a text or something that Candy yes, texting? 1115 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's one of those things where it's two things. 1116 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 5: You can't tell someone how to grieve, but you also 1117 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 5: can't tell someone how they should respond to an unfortunate situation, 1118 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 5: be a text, because that can be misread into something. 1119 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 5: So that's why I agree with all of you in 1120 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 5: terms of it's very confusing because one is mad because 1121 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 5: they felt like this person did not do more, and 1122 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 5: the other one is saying, what did you want me 1123 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 5: to do? Instead of picking up the phone and talking 1124 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 5: about it. 1125 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not even talking about that, which is 1126 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 2: my point. 1127 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: They're talking about a completely different situation that they're upset about, 1128 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: which is fine if we're going to do. 1129 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 2: This, this is what we're doing. Where Marlow gets upset. 1130 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 1: Because Candy isn't addressing the shooting and or I think it's. 1131 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it was all just misdirected it like. 1132 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent it was. 1133 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 5: It wasn't like Tammer said, Marlow did not know they 1134 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 5: were filming her in juice conversation and she had that 1135 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 5: blow up. And I know Marlow personally, Marlowe is breaking news. 1136 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 5: Marlowe is the most sensitive housewife I have ever worked 1137 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 5: with in my life. 1138 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 4: Really, Marlowe. 1139 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 5: Marlow is extremely sensitive. Marlow cries behind the scenes a lot. 1140 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 5: Marlow doesn't like rejection. Marlow doesn't And Marlow has expressed 1141 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 5: this on my podcast. She she said, Carlo, if you 1142 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 5: know me, I'm I'm sensitive as shit. 1143 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 3: I'm like you are by far, but. 1144 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 4: Don't people she really tough. Exteriors are the ones that 1145 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 4: are most sensitive inside. Yeah, I grew up like that. 1146 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 4: I was super sensitive inside, but I always had this tough, 1147 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 4: you know mentality. 1148 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 5: And we can't negate the fact that she comes from 1149 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 5: the foster system. 1150 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 3: So that's why she hates rejection. She hates rejection from 1151 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 3: from the girls. 1152 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 5: One thing Marlowe has said that a lot of people 1153 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 5: don't know Marlow still feels like the other women don't 1154 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 5: respect her as a peach older. 1155 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 4: How why did you think I could see that? But 1156 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 4: how why did it take so long for her to 1157 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 4: get a peach. 1158 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 3: Number one? 1159 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 5: Marlow turned down a peach when it was offered to her. 1160 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 5: What season season four? 1161 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, why did you turn it down? 1162 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 3: At the time, she felt that and YouTube adult this. 1163 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 5: At the time, she felt that the money they were 1164 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 5: paying her with the exclusivity in agreement did not work 1165 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 5: for her as the. 1166 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 2: First season peachholder. 1167 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 5: As a first season peach holder, right, so you guys 1168 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 5: can get that. And it wasn't on her Bengo card 1169 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:16,959 Speaker 5: anymore until I would say around season seven is when 1170 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 5: she was like, hmmm, I want this now. 1171 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 3: And at that time, you know, people just. 1172 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 5: Weren't interested in figuring out what other personalities could join 1173 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 5: the show. 1174 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of other personalities to join the show, do 1175 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: you think Cynthia should come back? 1176 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, what are your thoughts on Courtney? 1177 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 5: Oh, let's be clear, it's a tryhard. It's picked me vibes. 1178 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 4: She needs to calm her tits down just a little bit. 1179 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 3: She's given noel Le vibes from OC. 1180 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, that's what exactly. 1181 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,439 Speaker 1: The famous baby dad Like, I was like, no, you're 1182 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: not are you together? 1183 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 2: Oh you're not together. You're just such great co parents. 1184 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 2: Like I didn't believe it. I was like, are you 1185 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 2: here just so he can give you a little bit. 1186 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 3: Of like valid Yeah, that's what I didn't. 1187 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 4: But now she's a cousin. 1188 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 3: That's why it's where it listen. 1189 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 5: It's super But I want to address this because I 1190 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 5: said this on my podcast. It's hard for a housewife 1191 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 5: in this day and age with Twitter controlling the hiring process. 1192 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 3: Right, let's let let's be honest here. 1193 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 4: So you agree with that because I feel like we 1194 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 4: had that conversation. 1195 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: With Andy said Twitter does not He said they have 1196 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: focus groups and everybody else that handles. 1197 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 4: It influenced by Twitter. 1198 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 5: I think a lot in my Tamra Judge Boys my opinion, 1199 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 5: I think a lot has to do with Twitter's response. 1200 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 5: I think that's why you need to see Tamra, Lisa Rena, 1201 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 5: who else there's another example. 1202 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, but those fools change their minds as soon 1203 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 4: as you're fired. 1204 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 5: Well that's the thing, because you listen to Twitter and 1205 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 5: not really who makes the show great and. 1206 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 4: It's people the same super fan. 1207 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you need that, and you need that. 1208 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 5: So my question to you too is this, it's hard 1209 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 5: to come in as a new housewife because if you're 1210 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 5: not flipping a table, you're boring, or if you flip 1211 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 5: a table, you're thirsty. 1212 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 3: It's hard. 1213 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: It's but I don't think that she's boring. It's not 1214 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 1: that I think that Sonia is boring. I think that 1215 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: it I haven't seen and maybe it's just because of 1216 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 1: the things that we've been shown, but everything to me 1217 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: feels like an infomercial at this point in time. Yes, 1218 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 1: it's like we were hearing about the business. We're hearing 1219 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 1: about this, we're hearing about that. I want to see 1220 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: her one having fun to like just show a relationship 1221 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: with another woman, like, oh, just smile a little bit, 1222 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: like just everything. 1223 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, this isn't the Olympic Games. 1224 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 4: We are here, she's got a hot husband. She should 1225 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 4: be smiling all the time. 1226 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 2: You should be smiling. 1227 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: I should fun be a little messy, like a little 1228 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: bit like don't try. 1229 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 4: She's you know, she's an Olympian, right, so she's a 1230 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 4: very disciplined person, very disciplined. So I could see she's 1231 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 4: always in her head making sure. 1232 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 2: And I agree that I am that same way, but 1233 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to. 1234 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, you used to be the same way. 1235 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 5: And and I heard that you came on Beverley Hills 1236 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 5: and shook the table and started some ship and because 1237 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 5: of you, stuff is happening on Billy Hills. Because I 1238 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 5: heard prior to you coming on. It wasn't snooze. 1239 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Anyways, Teddy. And then she dropped her mic and never 1240 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 2: went back. 1241 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 3: Yes, because she said a friend contract. I'm not Marla Hampton. 1242 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 5: I want to hold a diamond, and I'm not Camille 1243 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 5: Grammar or Denise Richards. I'm not going to show up 1244 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 5: for call time because you told me so. I'm not 1245 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 5: Brandy Glanvale nor Kim Richards. 1246 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm not going to show. 1247 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 4: Up nobody side Teddy. 1248 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 3: She said, I want to. 1249 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 2: Tell everybody's messaging me. They're like, did you get in 1250 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 2: a fight with Kyle? Why weren't you at the White party? 1251 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: And so yesterday when Kyle and I were hiking, I 1252 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 1: just posted our little like we always do, our workout video, 1253 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, we thought you were you and Kyle. 1254 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:26,439 Speaker 2: Were in a fight. 1255 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, guys, I'm just not going to do 1256 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 1: it in that circumstance. 1257 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. I can miss a. 1258 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 5: Party, Okay, Teddy Walters, this is Carlos Winfrey. On a 1259 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 5: scale of one to ten, how explosive was your presence 1260 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 5: on this upcoming season of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. 1261 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 1: I am not at a position where I'm allowed to 1262 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: discuss such things. 1263 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 4: She She didn't even tell me. 1264 01:04:54,360 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: I'll like, okay, somebody's face was disgusted at my actual sight. 1265 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything. I'm not no, that's it. That's 1266 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 2: all I can tell you. 1267 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 3: But the only is Garsella. I'm sorry, is Garcela. 1268 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 1: The only reason I attended this was because it was 1269 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 1: very imbrobed with Utton. 1270 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you guys anything. 1271 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 5: Either, garcel And my guess is Garsel Tamar's guess is such. 1272 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 5: But I will say this, and if you guys are listening, 1273 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 5: because I know they are, please bring Teddy back. Because 1274 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 5: Kyle Richards, as the world knows, I love you, Tamor, 1275 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 5: Kyle Richards is my current favorite housewife. I am obsessed 1276 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 5: with Kyle because I think Kyle does everything right right 1277 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 5: and one thing Kyle is missing is a true friend. 1278 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 5: And what I love about Kyle's friendship with Teddy is 1279 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 5: it's rooted in reality. And I feel like Kyle, who's 1280 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 5: the force multiplier that show. She has to and please 1281 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 5: forgive when I say this, she I hate saying this, 1282 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 5: but whatever say it, she has to make it seem 1283 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 5: like her and Derry are like besties. And I think 1284 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 5: if you subtract the husband's hern, Derry would not be 1285 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 5: as close. 1286 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,439 Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to disagree with you because I don't 1287 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 4: know if you know this, but Teddy Walters is thinking 1288 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 4: about moving to Orange County. 1289 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 1: So this is my question for you, Carlos, if you 1290 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,800 Speaker 1: could pick, would you rather see me back on Beverly 1291 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Hills or holding myself an orange? 1292 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 2: Or they'd probably give me a clement time. They're like, 1293 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 2: you don't even get an orange? 1294 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, a cutie cutie. No, I mean she was a 1295 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 4: little scruffy like the Orange County. 1296 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 5: So but this, okay, and this is my honest opinion, 1297 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 5: because you have Tamra. 1298 01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 3: Who works the job of for women on that show, 1299 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 3: and honey, you do. 1300 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 5: And I believe that Taylor Armstrong I haven't seen anything. 1301 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 3: I believe Taylor has what it takes to be a 1302 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 3: good plus one to tam or Judge. 1303 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 5: So because of that one thing about the Real Housewives 1304 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 5: of Belly Hills, without Lisa Rena, you have nobody who 1305 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 5: wants to get the party started. Erica Jane isn't doing it, 1306 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 5: Sutton is not gonna do it, neither Garsell Crystal ain't 1307 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:35,440 Speaker 5: gonna do anything. 1308 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 3: So Teddy is the one. Because this is what people 1309 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 3: don't know about. 1310 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 5: Teddy and and tamer tell me if you agree with 1311 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 5: disagree with this. People don't know that in real life 1312 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 5: Teddy is supermodel gorgeous. She may not wear like She's 1313 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 5: not like Drey who gets the you know, the clothes 1314 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 5: and the whatever. 1315 01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 4: Carlos, I'm sick of seeing that. 1316 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 3: I hate it. I'm I'm bored with it. 1317 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I know that her stuff's real, but 1318 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 4: We've had conversations with Andy about the fake you know, 1319 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 4: because they feel like they have to wear that. 1320 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 3: To look before done. It's dying. 1321 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,759 Speaker 4: I don't want to see it. You don't see people 1322 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 4: like that walking around all day long with you. 1323 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 3: Had to talk to the rich ones. 1324 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 4: You don't like my money in the bank, bitch. 1325 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 5: Me too, and with interest growing so because but this 1326 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,679 Speaker 5: is what, this is what the Real Housewives of Beverly 1327 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 5: Hills fans do not know. Teddy is supermodeled, gorgeous and 1328 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 5: rich and rich, but Teddy doesn't. 1329 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 3: She's not showy. 1330 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 5: So when the women are in front of Teddy, the 1331 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 5: reason why they hate Teddy, especially Denise Richards, is because Teddy, 1332 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,600 Speaker 5: it's like, this bitch is gorgeous, she asked all the 1333 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,520 Speaker 5: good questions. 1334 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 3: I hate her and they're in and now I. 1335 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 1: Love Carlos and we actually are getting married tomorrow and 1336 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 1: he's officially But. 1337 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 4: I will say I knowing Teddy for as long as 1338 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 4: I've known her, I didn't. 1339 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 2: I wasn't close to her when. 1340 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 4: She was on the show, but when I watched old seasons, 1341 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 4: like she's so reserved and so in her head and 1342 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 4: didn't allow herself to drink enough to be messy and 1343 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 4: all those things. But I think going back, she's also 1344 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 4: said the same thing. Watching herself, she would be a 1345 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 4: totally different house. 1346 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 2: I would be myself, I do realize, and you as 1347 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 2: a producer. 1348 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,919 Speaker 1: I realized that there were parts in time where I 1349 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: just sat there where I wish I didn't like I 1350 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 1: would I would step up when I needed to, but 1351 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: I didn't the way I like the way I'm in 1352 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 1: the pod, like I never shut up. 1353 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 2: In reality in real life, like I have to force myself. 1354 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 2: When Tam was talking, Roy finished. 1355 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 3: You and you know how to dick, and I think, listen. 1356 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 5: I think the problem is people look at the shows 1357 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 5: and form an opinion based on who are the fan favorites, 1358 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 5: which is why the Kiss of Death is calling herself 1359 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 5: to start the show or. 1360 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,519 Speaker 3: The fan favorite. Once you do that, you're done. 1361 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 5: And the reason why I need to see you on 1362 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 5: Beverly Hills is because, for the love of God, Kyle 1363 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 5: needs a real friend. And it bothers me to watch 1364 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 5: the show knowing that she does not have anybody who 1365 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 5: is truly in her corner. And it's sad to watch 1366 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 5: because she gives. Kyle gives so much to that show 1367 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 5: and she tries to rally the troops and make sure 1368 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 5: all the girls are like doing their jobs, and it's like, 1369 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 5: can the bitch have a break, And you're the break 1370 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 5: style needs. 1371 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 1: And we said this with Andy when no one got 1372 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: up and gave her a hug at that end of 1373 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 1: the reunion last year. 1374 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Except for Andy. Yeah, like this is. 1375 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,600 Speaker 3: But you know why, right, because they were so happy. 1376 01:10:55,400 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 5: She was on her Well, they were like, don't touch 1377 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 5: her because we don't want Twitter to be mad at us. 1378 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,200 Speaker 3: I'm telling you that's how it works. 1379 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 5: I promise you they're like, do not hug her because 1380 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 5: Twitter will say why they're hugging Kyo not Kathy. I'm 1381 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,280 Speaker 5: telling you a lot of these women on Belly Hills 1382 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 5: and I'm not gonna call them out just yet. A 1383 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,839 Speaker 5: lot of the Belly Hills women play up to Twitter. 1384 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I. 1385 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 4: Think a lot of people at all much in general, 1386 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 4: I'm going to get annihilated this year. I already know it. 1387 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 3: And you're okay with that. 1388 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 4: I don't care. 1389 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 2: We love you for that, Tam. 1390 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 4: I don't care Twitter say what you want. 1391 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 2: I don't give a I'm not going to annihilate you, Tam. 1392 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 1: But I don't care, and me tell you you're only 1393 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 1: as good as last week's episode. 1394 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 4: I will watch myself and go, oh, I'm a dick, 1395 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 4: Like I get it, but it's who I am. 1396 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 3: This is a producer's dream. I love it. 1397 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:54,280 Speaker 2: Mind is not well. 1398 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 1: We do have a couple of thoughts as we have 1399 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 1: to close out. Even though we can talk to Carlos 1400 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 1: forever forever, he's not gonna be on tomorrow's episode where 1401 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,600 Speaker 1: we talk about Teresa's wedding, because I feel like we 1402 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 1: get a lot of extra juice there. 1403 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,679 Speaker 2: But my favorite fan thought so far was Courtney needs 1404 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 2: to take some venus CBD. 1405 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:16,600 Speaker 3: I like that. 1406 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 2: I do like that. 1407 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, people said that they miss they miss Array. Now. 1408 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:23,599 Speaker 4: I love Charay. 1409 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 3: We text love her. 1410 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,840 Speaker 4: I saw her hung out with her in La, we 1411 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,240 Speaker 4: did family food together. I'm obsessed with her. 1412 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 2: We love we love her, we love Marlowe. 1413 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 3: Hurry Kenya are my real friends? I love Charay? 1414 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, love her to death. 1415 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 2: Are Charay and Martel still together? 1416 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 3: Yes? 1417 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 2: But are they exclusive? See? 1418 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 1419 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 5: From what I know, they're not exclusive in terms of 1420 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,480 Speaker 5: you're my boyfriend, you're my girlfriend. 1421 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 3: They're both over forty. 1422 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 5: Martel just got out of a divorce, Charay just got 1423 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 5: out of relationship right with Tyrone. They're having fun there, 1424 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 5: and I think people need to unders dan, they're over forty. 1425 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 5: Dating over forty is very different. It's not like we 1426 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 5: go together, we're exclusive. They both live in different states 1427 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 5: and they're figuring things out. 1428 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 1: They're having each other's so take some time exactly. Okay, 1429 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,639 Speaker 1: So you think their relationship is much more legit than 1430 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 1: let's say, Giselle. 1431 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, okay, because I've seen it with my own 1432 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,080 Speaker 5: eyes without cameras. 1433 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 3: That's when you know something's real without cameras. I've seen it. 1434 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Well we know that you also saw Kim and krout, 1435 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: so so we don't know. 1436 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,559 Speaker 4: We just saying just saying we love you. 1437 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 2: Carlos. What do you like tell our viewers what they 1438 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,720 Speaker 2: need to be watching, what they need to be doing, 1439 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 2: how they find you all the things? 1440 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, So my podcast Reality with the King 1441 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,680 Speaker 5: drops every Tuesday whereever you get your podcasts, and you 1442 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 5: can see Martel on Love and Marriage Huntsville that airs 1443 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 5: every Saturday, eight o'clock suven Central on Oprah Winfrey Network, 1444 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 5: and you can follow me all platforms TikTok, Twitter, Instagram 1445 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 5: at b Carlos King Underscore, along with my YouTube page 1446 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 5: where you see the. 1447 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 3: Visuals of the podcast. 1448 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 2: I love that. I love you. 1449 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 3: God is good. Thank you, I love you Blonde, thank 1450 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 3: you so much too. 1451 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:26,960 Speaker 1: Bye, thank you bye,