WEBVTT - Jerry West on Winning Time

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<v Speaker 2>So a little behind the scenes here, So before I

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<v Speaker 2>ask this question, and I'm a little hesitant in asking it,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm a little long winded in getting there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to get him to address Winning Time. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out way to do that. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>had lunch with Jerry a few times, and I've been

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<v Speaker 2>out with them socially as well, and I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>him drink, not one time, not once. So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it was really fascinated that Winning Time made him look

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<v Speaker 2>like an alcoholic, just made him look like a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who throws his trophy through his office window and that

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<v Speaker 2>he's at the bar getting fucked up meeting his future wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy shit, I was cause I saw a winning time

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<v Speaker 2>after we met extremely sus at this depiction, So I

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<v Speaker 2>asked him about alcohol use, thinking that might lead us

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<v Speaker 2>into the winning time discussion. But we actually ended up

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<v Speaker 2>on this really interesting side road somehow about the blueprint

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<v Speaker 2>on giving constructive criticism, how you balance being brutally honest

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<v Speaker 2>and being a relationship guy, because I think that's insanely

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<v Speaker 2>hard to balance. And then somehow we got on the

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<v Speaker 2>role of social media and debate show talking heads in

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<v Speaker 2>today's NBA. Then he throws subtle shade at the Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>at Stephen A JJ Reddick.

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<v Speaker 3>What a turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Did not expect this, By the way, Gotta remember we're

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<v Speaker 2>about an hour and a half into this interview and

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<v Speaker 2>he is cooking. One of the craziest things that I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I've known about you for a long time

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<v Speaker 2>is that you don't drink. And I'm pretty sure correct

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<v Speaker 2>me if I'm wrong that you've never.

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<v Speaker 4>Had well, you know, As'll say, I'm not saying I

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<v Speaker 4>don't get dreamy, okay, but I never any alcohol in

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<v Speaker 4>the family. Might the kid hide drink the after me.

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<v Speaker 5>My night had the block in time.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm not a heath at all. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>like that it does to you if I'm not, I

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<v Speaker 6>just don't like to drink. Yeah, A round their family

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<v Speaker 6>and my father smoke heavily. There was no way that

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<v Speaker 6>I can heaven smoke anything and listen, I'm not appropriate others.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know any to fast it because there's things

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<v Speaker 6>I've just smoke.

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<v Speaker 7>You do this, Yeah, I'm not going to I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>gonna have Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm really honest, and some people don't mention bee with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting question. So how do you balance that

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<v Speaker 2>being brutally honest in a talent evaluation role when people

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of like there's another industry out there to

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<v Speaker 2>try to make things.

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<v Speaker 3>Out to be bigger than they are.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 7>You just don't care.

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<v Speaker 6>Social media and particularly these people get their music, your

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<v Speaker 6>hair and criticize players. The next day they'll come back

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<v Speaker 6>and kiss and make up.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like them, but they do it for the people.

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<v Speaker 4>Will they're free ad contrebi. Some of these players are

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<v Speaker 4>not confidentially there. You are who they are, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know I've watched this year centle things written about.

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<v Speaker 6>The field players and the ore who they are. What

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<v Speaker 6>you're not going to change you right, which is who

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<v Speaker 6>they are? And I think it's resally embarrassing going the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it hard for you knowing that you're brutally honest?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that impact and you're also a relationship oriented person?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you balance those two things?

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<v Speaker 7>Really?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, somebody will come up, let's say to you,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I want to know this, okay, And I said, look,

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<v Speaker 8>this is only my opinion you and may tell you

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<v Speaker 8>what you want to hear or.

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<v Speaker 6>If you want to tell you what I think, And

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes I want to tell you what I think you

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<v Speaker 6>know about that? I said, it's not a reflector when

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<v Speaker 6>you but reflection on how you can get better, not

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<v Speaker 6>only as a player, but as a person, how you

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<v Speaker 6>can interact with people better, how.

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<v Speaker 9>People will be a more accepting of you.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, most of sarmon thinking, well, I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>a smile, and yeah, I just I'm pretty simple.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm really pretty simple, And I don't think it's kind

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<v Speaker 10>of a life in this league today it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Almost forgotten to compent of It's the excessive amount of

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<v Speaker 6>published me, the excessive now content about the players that

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<v Speaker 6>are in our league, and I'm not always.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking something longer to what you want, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 9>Just say it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>And some of the people in the air who I

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<v Speaker 4>watch ex players, players who's accomplished basically nothing and talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the game in their opinion.

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<v Speaker 6>When I play, I'm going to talk about how to play.

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<v Speaker 6>It was completely different area the day I'm saying, well.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, I've got to be even though I'm older,

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<v Speaker 5>reading reading things that were meanings of reading in my history,

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<v Speaker 5>reading about people who have inspired, I say, even though

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<v Speaker 5>I'm battle.

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<v Speaker 6>The persons terrible, I don't care about people are and

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<v Speaker 6>uh some people and NBA players, the players and others.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to feel like if everyone crazy when they're

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<v Speaker 6>with their franchise and the next second they trade.

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<v Speaker 10>Him and.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, even just a number you just want

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<v Speaker 6>to see you. As I mentioned, players have places where

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<v Speaker 6>they want to go to death, and you don't know

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<v Speaker 6>they want.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone seemingly wants to go to a big market. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to go to the place where I can win.

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<v Speaker 4>I suppose you're good enough. If you're good though, they

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<v Speaker 4>can have a lot more money with your own game

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<v Speaker 4>if you have a can.

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<v Speaker 6>Also, some places where you go and everything looks great,

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<v Speaker 6>you get there and you'll find out.

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<v Speaker 2>There lot the other Why does it work?

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<v Speaker 7>Just get around?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh well there's a public a lot of indifferent. Well

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<v Speaker 6>we really got if you hear that, I just I

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<v Speaker 6>just look at anyone on those people.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't go Over the years, I've.

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<v Speaker 7>Learned a lot, and I think crush. If I'll use

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<v Speaker 7>that la to discussed, wells crush. There's sell anything. And

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<v Speaker 7>there's been some fuss in my life, have been betrayed,

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<v Speaker 7>and I don't you know, you'll have it. I I'll

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<v Speaker 7>just find that bother.

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<v Speaker 2>Here it is, folks, here it is. What did Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>West think about Winning Time? When I saw that HBO series,

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<v Speaker 2>I wondered, did they get anything right?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like they got pretty much everything. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I really don't want to find them.

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<v Speaker 9>There's a complete line.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a fleet line they have forgetting me. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>we're getting me.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care what anyone says.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not doing it right exactly now.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know those people.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to know them.

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<v Speaker 4>I've dir any money yeah, but that was disgraced for

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people, and then for some reason I

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<v Speaker 4>would be chills in place.

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<v Speaker 6>That means a feeling good story.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the start of an era in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 4>and Gary Bless the others made the Lakers for years the.

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<v Speaker 6>Most popular thing inta And to me, to find the

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<v Speaker 6>story that about detroying the people who were involved in it,

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<v Speaker 6>it's very deftime.

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<v Speaker 9>That's just place.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the concept of an owner to say, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just do whatever it takes to win. When I look

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<v Speaker 2>and read about that time, that's the thing that sticks

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<v Speaker 2>out is just how rare and special and hard it

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<v Speaker 2>is for owners to.

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<v Speaker 10>Do that different. Yeah, at the team today, we have

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<v Speaker 10>immensely by this. Of course, because they wont in your profession.

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<v Speaker 10>They don't understand how hard it's time. They don't they

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<v Speaker 10>think it's easy enough money he is spending, it's not

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<v Speaker 10>gonna do it. Sometimes people spend a lot of money

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<v Speaker 10>and they're hopefully losing.

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<v Speaker 6>They're not gonna get better. And once it gets kind

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<v Speaker 6>of stuck in the middle, if you don't find a

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<v Speaker 6>way to get out of that, you're gonna be the

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<v Speaker 6>you firing that because you go he was looking every

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<v Speaker 6>team in the league. Look what happens when.

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<v Speaker 9>They lose a great player from some franchise that just

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<v Speaker 9>want to give a number. And it's frustrating for the fans.

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<v Speaker 9>Every universe social produce in the draft comes you are,

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<v Speaker 9>but it gets my pleasing and I would there's no

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<v Speaker 9>more answer to them.

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<v Speaker 7>They really know.

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<v Speaker 9>I do believe in ownership a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been fun, We've been involved with floor owners and

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<v Speaker 4>like you, I suceed kind of really really been.

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<v Speaker 11>A fantastic and I think the rocket starts you're leaving

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<v Speaker 11>the failed And I went over to Day who was

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<v Speaker 11>most amazing man.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got to say them over that, who's just in

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<v Speaker 6>any individual who was a dealers but went to he

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<v Speaker 6>and his wife do some of.

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<v Speaker 7>The public dockets can time.

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<v Speaker 10>There's amazing when he is a great man, he is

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<v Speaker 10>a great man.

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<v Speaker 7>I actually probably at this point in my life and

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<v Speaker 7>this is life, you know, this is kind of my

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<v Speaker 7>entire lower at the NBA that I've had a chance

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<v Speaker 7>to get to some of life man.

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<v Speaker 3>During us like the dry us, the gray us and

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<v Speaker 3>my father years of the body, like the road man

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<v Speaker 3>who keeping the bugs through fireman and he got.

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<v Speaker 9>Able to really quieter for sure, and Steve is a

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<v Speaker 9>little bit more lambastic work Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Games, and I could have freaking anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite thing that he did was he's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to comment on that, and then he proceeded

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<v Speaker 2>to comment and comment and comment some more.