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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for coming on our show.

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Speaker 2: We've been trying to get you on the show for

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Speaker 2: a minute, but I'm glad we're here, and we're big

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Speaker 2: fans of yours and follows your career, and just thank.

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Speaker 1: You for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been trying to get on the show. So

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Speaker 3: it's a special day today.

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Speaker 2: Right when you first got to the w NBA, who

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Speaker 2: was the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's a tough question. It's you know, I was

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Speaker 3: a point guard, but I always guarded other players, so

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Speaker 3: probably Cheryl Swoops. I mean, her first step was crazy,

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Speaker 3: so I never really guarded the point guard's always guarded

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Speaker 3: the wings, So I would say probably Cheryl A Coop.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember, so I think that's a good thing

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Speaker 3: that I don't remember snight busting my ass, But I'll

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Speaker 3: probably say one of those two.

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Speaker 4: Yo. Y'all Yo.

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Speaker 5: We live on location NBA Summer League twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 5: wonderful Las Vegas, Nevada. We are here at the Excess

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Speaker 5: feel we got twenty five Hall of Fame, a world champ,

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Speaker 5: We got one of the very first point guard to

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Speaker 4: We got the lovely T shirt Peanut chair roug.

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Speaker 3: He appreciate you pulling up absolutely my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Portugal. I didn't know you from Portugal. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to mispronounce what part of Portugal?

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Speaker 1: Can you the foh?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I never would have seen that. You would have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have let we should have let him

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Speaker 1: try that.

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Speaker 4: Say you trying to say it one time? It right now?

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Speaker 2: I don't want to mess that up, you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to mess it up. You grew up in

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Speaker 2: the country where soccer is like the number one sport,

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Speaker 2: is the number one sport. How did basketball become the

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Speaker 2: thing that you wanted to do out because I know

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Speaker 2: everybody around you played soccer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, family thing. My dad played and then he was

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Speaker 3: my first coach. And I have an older brother and

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Speaker 3: also play basketball. So basically I started playing when I

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Speaker 3: was five six, dribbling the ball at the house and

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Speaker 3: I was super lucky. There's not a lot of playgrounds

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Speaker 3: in Portugal. But I literally have won right across from

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Speaker 3: nighttime I couldn't even see the hoop anymore. My mom

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Speaker 3: would have to literally come and like he owed my

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Speaker 2: Who was you watching at the early age to just

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Speaker 2: put the swag in your game? Like for you to

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Speaker 2: be an overseas player, to have the swag that you

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Speaker 2: had in your name, what you was watching when you

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Speaker 3: I'm about to tell my age, but you know, in Portugal,

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Speaker 3: right after I watched that game, I would go to

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Speaker 2: So you play in the club team, that's like the

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Speaker 2: pro team and ports. Cool tell us like the process

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Speaker 4: Playing professional as a teenager.

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Speaker 3: As a teenager, yeah, so, I mean it's completely different

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Speaker 3: They are you kind of your parents pick a sport,

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Speaker 1: What did you hear about colleges?

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Speaker 2: Like, how does that process get to the point where

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Speaker 1: What did you know about college?

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Speaker 3: So there's no internet, right, this is like I can't

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Speaker 3: research anything. But my brother played pro and he always

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Speaker 3: So I always, like, from a very young age, was

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Speaker 3: play professional in Portugal. Her name is Alison Green. And

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Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, you're so good, Like you

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Speaker 3: And she was just like Okay, give me a number.

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Speaker 3: So I actually had to give her like my parents landline. No,

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Speaker 3: So two years later, she became the assistant coach at

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Speaker 3: Old Dominion. So she told the coaches, you guys have

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Speaker 5: Like that's how Old Dominion, That's what I say, How

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Speaker 4: Like that's crazy crazy.

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Speaker 3: If she would have become an assistant coach somewhere else,

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Speaker 3: I know that I came on a visit. They took

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Speaker 3: Where do I sign? And know, like, let's do this.

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Speaker 3: So it was kind of you know, it's sometimes you

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Speaker 2: Did you try to go to any other college or

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Speaker 3: So this was kind of like the first one that

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Speaker 3: I was mad because I'm like, how you want to

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Speaker 3: mean I didn't so yeah. I mean once I did

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Speaker 5: You've been from Portugal with like was that the first

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Speaker 4: How was that? How was that for you? Coming? So

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I have to thank my parents,

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Speaker 3: Again that I used to write letters to my parents.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I'm saying, like when your parents

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Speaker 2: So now you committed to older men and you you

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Speaker 3: I mean it's true, you know, not every day speeches

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Speaker 3: missing home was the hardest one, you know, to be homesick,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm here for a reason. My goal

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Speaker 3: is to obviously graduate, to become a better woman, to

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Speaker 3: And the timing was perfect because I was in college

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Speaker 3: from ninety four to ninety eight. When I came, there

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Speaker 3: was no WNBA. My goal is to go back overseas

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Speaker 3: around ninety seven, and it was perfect because the scouts

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Speaker 3: could see me. If I wasn't back in Portugal, ain't

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Speaker 3: was just like the perfect timing. And I'm so glad

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Speaker 3: that I took the chance and came.

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Speaker 2: You played in the competition in college, Like when you

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Speaker 2: started playing, did you it's a whole other level than

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Speaker 2: what you just came from.

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Speaker 1: Like when did you feel like you adjust?

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Speaker 2: Did you feel like you was right away ready or

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Speaker 2: you feel like it's you got a lot to learn

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Speaker 2: and it's the style of play is totally different.

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Speaker 3: I mean starting with like lifting weights, watching film practice

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Speaker 3: So I remember I was drafted in ninety eight. I

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Speaker 3: So this is back in nineteen nine area we had

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Speaker 3: So I remember being like, oh, I'm going to Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: Because I used to watch J Will and I used

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00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,840
Speaker 2: to watch you on the women's.

437
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,920
Speaker 4: How was that being there when he was there?

438
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,080
Speaker 5: Like you used to watch him and try and do

439
00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,120
Speaker 5: it and stuff like, because like y'all was like two

440
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,280
Speaker 5: of the flashiest pachs in the w.

441
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,560
Speaker 4: And the NBA.

442
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 3: Like he got me when they did the elbow pass.

443
00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,040
Speaker 4: The best part.

444
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 5: About that was watching Lo in the video, like when

445
00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 5: he noticed that, I'm like, yo, that was sick.

446
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,160
Speaker 4: That was ill.

447
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but those fans are great, And you know what,

448
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,119
Speaker 3: the team folded in two thousand and nine and it

449
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,280
Speaker 3: was kind of out of nowhere. Nobody expected it. So

450
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 3: we never never really had a chance to say goodbye

451
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 3: to our fans to thank them. But one thing I'm

452
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 3: super proud is that we did bringing championship to the

453
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,680
Speaker 3: city and those fans were amazing. And I hope that soon,

454
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,120
Speaker 3: at least in the area, like maybe the Bay Area

455
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,360
Speaker 3: or something, we can get another WNB team back there

456
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 3: because those fans deserve it.

457
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 2: How was it when y'all was on the Whaedi box,

458
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 2: when your team was whole team was on the way

459
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 2: y'all was the first women's team to ever be on

460
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 2: the Whaedi box.

461
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. I was like, yeah, I still have it, ide,

462
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 3: but yeah, I still have it, I mean too. Yeah,

463
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 3: that was that was amazing, and we were trying to

464
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 3: win that championship for so long, I mean, playing in

465
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 3: the West, especially with the Comets and the Mercury La,

466
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,119
Speaker 3: I mean, it was tough. But we finally got it

467
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,880
Speaker 3: in five. So that that was big.

468
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 2: Tell us about that season, about getting over the hump,

469
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 2: because y'all look good, competitive team. Y'all won the team

470
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 2: that can beat all the teams that everybody because you know,

471
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 2: with the WNBA, it was a first team, so they

472
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 2: was putting some of the more popular people on the

473
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 2: popular teams up front, but y'all was one of them

474
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 2: dark horse teams that came in. Just tell us about

475
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 2: this season and just how everything clicked for y'all to

476
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 2: win it.

477
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really about defense. Our coach he called

478
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: it the white line defense, and we all bought in.

479
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 3: At first, it was like a little weird because sometimes

480
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 3: we overhelped, but when everybody was on the same page

481
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 3: doing it, I mean, we were unstoppable, and I mean

482
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: we all say defense wins championships, so for us, it

483
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 3: was really true. I mean until we bought in and

484
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 3: and really everybody had player and huge role with that championship.

485
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 3: But Yo was the MVP, so Shocktown represented. But we

486
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: were trying to get that championship for a long time.

487
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 4: How did that?

488
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 5: Like you try to get it for so long, Like

489
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 5: when you finally get it and you guys get to

490
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 5: celebrate with your fans, you get those trophies, Like what

491
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 5: was that feeling accomplishment? Like now call me Champeah, respect this.

492
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 3: It's kind of surreal because it was a close game too,

493
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 3: But when that buzzer goes off and the confiti like

494
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 3: just stars like falling from the sky and you think,

495
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 3: like I knew that my family was like five am,

496
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 3: but I knew they were watching at home, and you know,

497
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 3: it's just a relief, like all the hard work that

498
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 3: you have put in the off season and throughout the

499
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: whole season, and he finally like he paid off, you know,

500
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 3: because sometimes you're so close. It might be two field

501
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: goals from winning a championship, but he kind of everything

502
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 3: has to kind of go the right way, no injuries,

503
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: everybody buys in. You know, you have to have a

504
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 3: little bit of luck. But for us, you finally happen.

505
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: Sometimes you go a whole career without winning a championship,

506
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 3: you know, and you never want people to say, oh,

507
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 3: you didn't win a championship, You're not this or that

508
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: or whatever. Like you don't want that to define you.

509
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: But it just feels good. I mean, that's why you

510
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 3: play the game is to win, right so, and to

511
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 3: win in front of your fans. Like you said, it

512
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 3: was seventeen thousand people at Arc Arena. It was passed.

513
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: Remember that, Like, yeah, I remember that.

514
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: I was so happy for y'all want Yeah, So that

515
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: was dope.

516
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 4: How do you.

517
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 5: Described like that epic five game series against the Shot

518
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 5: Talk about that from you guys perspectives?

519
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? Stuff? Another one. You know, we should have went

520
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 3: back to back and then it was crazy because we

521
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 3: should have won game four and in sack, everybody was

522
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: ready at the champagne in the locker room, blah blah blah.

523
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: And then we had to go back to Detroit and

524
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 3: they couln't even play at the Palace because there was

525
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: a concert. So we played that I think it's called

526
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: Joe's Yeah, Yeah play. I mean any stuff. You know,

527
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: Bill and Beer was the coach, and there was just Bruisers,

528
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: you know at Cheryl Ford, Katie Smith, Deanna Nolan not

529
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 3: even have people talk about her. And yeah, it was tough.

530
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: I mean, and I knew going back it was gonna

531
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 3: make it so much harder on us. And it was.

532
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 5: Tell me this, you spoke on like the team folding

533
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 5: and just speak on how much of a weird situation

534
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 5: that is, like as far as like for the actual

535
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 5: players that are on that team, and how you guys

536
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 5: have to go about the process of going and finding

537
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 5: another team, and just how all of that played out,

538
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 5: Like where were you when you found out the team

539
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 5: was gonna fold? And how did the news come to

540
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 5: you guys as the player.

541
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually in the practice facility. So it

542
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: was the off season. It was like around November. It

543
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: was right before Thanksgiving, and I had surgery on my thumb.

544
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 3: So I was just recovering and I just finished working out.

545
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: I go back to my locker and I have a

546
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: message from like one of the ladies that work for us,

547
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 3: and she was like, t should call me when you

548
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 3: get this, And I'm like, so I call and she's like,

549
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: I have something to tell you. Like the maloofs decided

550
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: that you know, the owners decided they don't want to

551
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: have the team anymore, so we about to fold and

552
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 3: I'm like what mean, I'm like no, and then the

553
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: processes so it did happen, and then this is November.

554
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: So the next season we have to wait until April

555
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 3: or May. So if you were under contract, there's going

556
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: to be this personal draft. So the worst team from

557
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: the previous year picks first. If you were not in

558
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 3: the contract, which I was not, then I'm a free

559
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: agent right away. So then I had to decide where

560
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: am I going to go next? So it was between

561
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: actually san Antonio and LA. So I ended up going

562
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: to LA and I played two years with the Sparks.

563
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: But but if you were in the contract, you kind

564
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: of have no saying where you're going to go because

565
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: a team just going to pick you.

566
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what was the decision on LA and San Antonio?

567
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: I mean I was going to play with Delicia Milton

568
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: and Jones and Tina Thompson and Kandas Parker, and I

569
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: was just like, I remember the gym for the Sparks

570
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: at the time, It's like you the glove, like the

571
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: missing piece, like you hit a point guard to get

572
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: the ball to all these players. But right in the

573
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: beginning of the season, Kennis hurt her shoulders, so she

574
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 3: was out for the season. So obviously it didn't go

575
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 3: as as expected. But you know, I don't have many

576
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: regrets in life. So at the end of the day,

577
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: I enjoy being in La Kobe's dad was our coach

578
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 3: at some point, you know, so that that was cool.

579
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: Joe Bean always trying to play practice too, and trying

580
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: to give us buckets and talk trash. So I had

581
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: a good time.

582
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: When I watched you play, it was always a joy.

583
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 2: It was always like you had fun. What gave you

584
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: the joy of the game. He was just having fun.

585
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: You was always smiling, You always enter the game. You

586
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: definitely was focused, but it was a focus.

587
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: What's not to love? You know, I'm getting this is

588
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: not job. You know, I'm getting paid to play basketball,

589
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: you know, something that you know. And to go back

590
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: to what you said, you know, being from Portugal, from

591
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: this little town, who would have said that I would

592
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: have played in the WNBA and you know, play with

593
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 3: all these amazing players and be successful. So you know,

594
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: that's all joy. You know. I was really hard on

595
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 3: myself and a little bit of a perfectionist. So sometimes

596
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: when we lost, like I used to be really mad

597
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: and I kind of to shift, you know, that mentality.

598
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, basketball is joy. I mean to this day,

599
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: I don't play anymore, but I just I'm still like involved,

600
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 3: and I just really love to watch basketball. I love

601
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 3: to watch sports. But it's just a cool sport and

602
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 3: brings so many people together and then also like from

603
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: all parts of the world, So yeah, I love it.

604
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 5: How was it to make like, you know, like you said,

605
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 5: you just played for the joy of and everything, and

606
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 5: then one thing leads another. You had his whole career,

607
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 5: So how does it feel like when they come with

608
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 5: the fifteen twenty fifth w NBA Anniversary team and you,

609
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 5: you know, you part of all of them, like literally

610
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 5: one of the legends and icons of the game.

611
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: How does that make you feel?

612
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 5: Like, No, you came from a little town thirty thousand

613
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 5: people and you made it all the way over here

614
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 5: and took it for the fraternity of women.

615
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: It's it's surreal. Honestly, sometimes I don't believe it, Like

616
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: it's crazy, you know. Always, like I said, I knew

617
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: that I wanted to be the best player that I

618
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: could be. I really didn't know what that meant, but

619
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: I just knew that I wanted to give everything that

620
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 3: I had to the game, and then whatever results were

621
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: gonna come out of it, I was gonna be okay

622
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: with it. And if that's the result, I'm really okay

623
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: with it. I mean, the top twenty five. Like when

624
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: I got that call, it was insane. I mean just

625
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: being on that court we were in Phoenix for the finals,

626
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: and looking around all the people that were like, and

627
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: I was the only European too, is.

628
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 5: Just like, what is that feeling like when you like,

629
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 5: like you say, it's one thing to get the call

630
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 5: to say you're gonna make it, but then like you say,

631
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 5: when you sitting there in that moment and you standing

632
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 5: with all of the greatest to ever do it, and

633
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 5: you amongst them, and then like you say, you're the

634
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 5: only European, Like what is like?

635
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: What is this?

636
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: It's like a dream? Like it doesn't even seem real.

637
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 3: Like honestly, I mean, I'm not saying that because that's

638
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: I know it's cliche, but it's really surreal. And I

639
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: know that people say I'm humble or whatever, and I

640
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 3: always try to stay that way because I was not

641
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: going to let anything change me. But you know, just

642
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: going back to you know, the way that I grew

643
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: up and being from Portugal is just and being like

644
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: looking around for people that I've always admired and respected

645
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: and to be amongst them, it's very surreal. I don't

646
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: even know how to explain it.

647
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 5: And then you coupled it, like how did it feel

648
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 5: like you played and wanted to you know, when that started,

649
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 5: you were a guard and like you said, you didn't

650
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 5: guard the point guards. You guarded some of the greatest

651
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 5: players in the history of the game.

652
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: Like how was that competitiveness you.

653
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 5: Like you spoke on swoops cool, Like how was it

654
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: to be in that era of it and to be

655
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: going against like those top level icons who like when

656
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 5: you say it was in that twenty five A was

657
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 5: in those lines too, and you know the battles y'all had.

658
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what makes you the best, you know,

659
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: to go against the best. And at the end of

660
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: the day, I love to pass, but people don't talk

661
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: about my defense, But I love to play defense to

662
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: And I actually didn't like to guard the point guards.

663
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: I always wanted to guard the top score. On the

664
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: other team because I just took it as a challenge

665
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 3: and I really enjoy playing defense. And obviously you're going

666
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 3: to guard the best player, you're gonna get scored on,

667
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 3: but you just want to make their life hard. And

668
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: all those players that were there, I'm sure that you know,

669
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: Diana Tarassi, all those players that I had to guard.

670
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: We had our battles, but that's what's gonna you know,

671
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: make it fun, you know, on the court, to go

672
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 3: against the best.

673
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: Where was you and what was your reaction when you

674
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: heard you made the Hall of Fame.

675
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I actually was overseasoned on my phone ring

676
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: and it was it was a weird number and I

677
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: usually don't even answer, but I did answer that time,

678
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: and they were like, they told me that was going

679
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: to be a finalist, and then they were going to

680
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: be voting and then in a few months they were

681
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: going to announce the finalists. So again, it's just like

682
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: the way something that you don't expect anything. You played

683
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: the game the right way, You do what you were

684
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: supposed to do, and I think all these things happen organically,

685
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: and then when they happened is a little bit of

686
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: a pinching moment, like where you have to kind of

687
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: pinch yourself to see, Okay, now I'm in the Hall

688
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: of Fame, And that's kind of crazy because you know,

689
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: you never played for that. You play to have fun,

690
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: you play because you love it, and you play to win,

691
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: and those things happen organically. So obviously it was a

692
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: day that I remember I was actually at a game.

693
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: I was in Spain at a game, and then the

694
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: phone ring and I took the call, and I'm like wow,

695
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: And then I was like, Okay, who should I call? First?

696
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: I call my parents and I told them and they

697
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: were like, what the hell is that? But but yeah,

698
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: it's it's cool. I mean, I'm very blessed.

699
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: What made you decide to be an agent? Like how

700
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 5: did you decide? Like after you play and everything, like

701
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 5: what were the things that kind of led to you

702
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 5: that you wanted to be an agent and represent players?

703
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing is I knew that no matter

704
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: what I did next, I wanted to stay close to

705
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: the game. It's what I love to do. And you

706
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: know what they say, if you do what you love,

707
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: you never work a day in the life. So and

708
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: I also knew that I didn't want to coach. I

709
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: was very sure of that. You know, being a point guard,

710
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: you kind of coach all your life. You know, go here,

711
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: go there, box out, what the hell you doing? You know, like,

712
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: so you are a coach because you have a coach's mentality.

713
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: But I didn't want to have the same routine be

714
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: inside of a gym. Again, watch film and it's probably

715
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: worse than being a player, the amount of time and

716
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: the mental that goes into that. And I knew that.

717
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: I also wanted to have a job that gave me

718
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: a little bit more flexibility because I left my house,

719
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: like my family when I was sixteen, So I wanted

720
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: to find something where I could work remotely and be

721
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: spend more time with my parents and spend more time

722
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: with my family. And the more I thought about it,

723
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: I was like, this is what I want to do.

724
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: At the time, there was not too many women representing women,

725
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: especially women that actually play the game, so it just

726
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 3: made sense to me. And the more I thought about it,

727
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: I was like, Yeah, this makes sense, this is exactly

728
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: what I want to do.

729
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: Like it's one thing, like you held records in a WNBA,

730
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 5: but how cool is it to see like because records

731
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 5: are made to be broken how cool was it to

732
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 5: see when you're a record to be broken by by

733
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 5: vander Slut who you represent, And let me say, I'm

734
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 5: a fan shot down she got us a chip gang.

735
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: So much respect to her. But how dope was that?

736
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I knew he was going to be broken.

737
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: I mean it was just a matter of time. And

738
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: you know, she's someone that we actually played together when

739
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: I played for Chicago to my last year in the

740
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: league twenty twelve. I played for Chicago for one year,

741
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: one summer, and we were teammates, you know, and it

742
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: was kind of like my body was basically shutting down,

743
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: and I was like, Okay, I know this is going

744
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: to be my last year. But I was able to

745
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: mentor her a little bit, and a lot of people

746
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: compare her to me just because she's a true point

747
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: guard and it's almost like the true centers and the

748
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: true point guards is basically dinosaurs, like they are in

749
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: a few years that we ain't gonna have no more.

750
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: Like there's still a few out there, and she's one

751
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: of them. And I mean she's someone that I truly

752
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: love watching play between her, Super Chelsea Gray, those are

753
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: I think the three that were like true point guards. Obviously,

754
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: Sue retired last year and we have Chelsea and Courtney.

755
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm a huge fan.

756
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: The process of you was seventeen eighteen when you came,

757
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: you done stayed in the United States since you came

758
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: over from Older Menion.

759
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: Just spend how many years?

760
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I came in ninety four, right, you get

761
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: a mess about to be thirty, right, But always played overseas.

762
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: So I would play here in the summer and then

763
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: I would go back overseas to play overseas. But I

764
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: never played like in Portugal, per se. I would play

765
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: in Italy, Russia, Turkey, Czech Repolish for that.

766
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: Like you've been one of the first players to come

767
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: from overseas and come over here. And how you then

768
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: build you a home, family and friends, like just speak

769
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: on that, like some of the close people you done

770
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: met over in the United States and that became your

771
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: family and the families that you built with teammates and

772
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: people you to work with. Like tell us just about

773
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: that process from Older Minion all the way through your career.

774
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: The people that you'd done met and built a family

775
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: with that's in another country.

776
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people don't go to.

777
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Another country, didn't build a whole other family over there.

778
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean basketball and my career was great,

779
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: but really it's over now. Like you go by so fast.

780
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: But the things that stays the people that you meet,

781
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: the friends that you make, like they're basically your new family.

782
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: I mean, if I grab my phone now, I probably

783
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: like ninety percent of the people on my phone in

784
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: my context I met through basketball, And like I said,

785
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: it's just you know, connect so many people. And that's

786
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: the thing that I'm most grateful for is the memories

787
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: that obviously that I have, but the people that I've met,

788
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it changed my life, you know, And like

789
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: I said, my family still lives in Portugal, so I

790
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: kind of rely on all these people that I've met

791
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: that now become family or you know, close friends to

792
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: make sure that you know, I can stay over here

793
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: and I be super homesick from not having my family here.

794
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 5: What type of cool stories or either cool or crazy?

795
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 5: I remember Sueto, that's a crazy story about playing.

796
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: For like a Yeah I played for him too, SHATAI.

797
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, like.

798
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 5: What type of crazy stories you got from playing overseas?

799
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 5: Because like a lot a lot of people got crazy

800
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 5: stories from like you know, y'all had to go then,

801
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 5: especially had to plan at WNBA able to still go overseas.

802
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: So what type of stories do you get from those experiences.

803
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I can go back on that story from

804
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: Russia because Sue had an Israeli passport DT like Diana

805
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: Troassa had Italian passport. So our team was crazy, like

806
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: it was me Diana Sue. We had Tina Thompson, we

807
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: had Lauren Jackson. I mean, he's basically like an all

808
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: star team, so we all played on the same team.

809
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 5: Uh.

810
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: And chop Ti, the guy that you know, he was

811
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: our owner, and he was the first man overseas that

812
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: really invested in women's basketball. He paid us the right

813
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: amount of money, like we flew charter, we stayed five

814
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: style hotels, no roommates, you know, so he really changed

815
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: the game. But I mean, you know, when you play

816
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: with team like that overseas, you really feel like you

817
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 3: are in the States because everybody speaks English around everybody

818
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: all the time. And I mean we just go to

819
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: dinners and stay for like sometimes like six seven hours

820
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: just telling stories and just enjoying and uh. And that's

821
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: the thing that sometimes when you come back to the

822
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: States and always like, Okay, now you are I'm trying

823
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: to kill you. I'm trying to win, right, But then

824
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 3: he oversees you more relaxed and you really can connect

825
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: with people on a different level. And those are the

826
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: best memories. Like just Diane is like super funny. She

827
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: always had something to say, sarcastic and just really getting

828
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: to know them as people and not as you know, opponents.

829
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: So we were teammates, so that that was cool.

830
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: Seeing a WNBA from when you first got into the

831
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: league and seeing how it is now today. Of more benefits.

832
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: They taking care of the women more. They're trying to

833
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: create better flight situation and hotel and childcare and understanding

834
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: when a woman gets pregnant, stuff that they don't really

835
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: have coming through the gate.

836
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: How proud of you.

837
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: How they're trying to push and push and push and

838
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: try to get better and better and better for me.

839
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: I mean it's time, like anything, we have to evolve,

840
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: and the thing that is important is we continue to

841
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: move forward, even if it's baby steps. I mean, the

842
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: league is what twenty seven years old now, so we

843
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: come a long way, but there's still so much more

844
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: that can be done, especially when it comes to salaries expansion.

845
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: We need more jobs, we need more teams. There's a

846
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: lot of players out there that get cut and they're good,

847
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: but there's just not enough room for everybody. So yeah,

848
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I'm proud. I'm one of the pioneers

849
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: and We've put in a lot of work for the

850
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: league to have a great foundation and to grow. But

851
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: the talent now is ridiculous, you know is I mean,

852
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: think about it like when I was a little girl,

853
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: I dream about what playing in the NBA, which I

854
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: knew it was unrealistic. But little girls now at five

855
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: seven ages, they know the WNBA is here to stay

856
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: and they can dream about it because it's real.

857
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: We've just seen a great stretch of women's basketball, coming

858
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: off the women's Tournament in the NCAA, then coming into

859
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: the playoffs of the ACE is winning. So tell you

860
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: how good it feels to just see that because you

861
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: don't see that every year all the time, and now

862
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: you're seeing the women's brand being at a.

863
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: High lovel Yeah, I mean, the thing is like I've

864
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 3: seen it, but I'm happy that people that haven't seen

865
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: it have a chance to see it now and they

866
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 3: are turning on the TVs and they're grabbing their little

867
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: girls to them. And you see we breaking records as

868
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: far as audience and money that is being spent sponsors

869
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: that are companies are investing in women. I mean players

870
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: now don't even they don't want to leave college, you know,

871
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 3: they because they're making money, you know so, I mean

872
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: I knew it all along. I'm just glad that the

873
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 3: world is awake now and more people are tuning in

874
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: to watch not just women's basketball, but women in sports.

875
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: With some of the women in today's game that you

876
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: must see TV for you because you have a unique game.

877
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: I know you was must see TV for me. But

878
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: who are some of the women.

879
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: Today At the top of the list, I would say

880
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: Chelsea Gray. I mean, thank god we in Vegas too,

881
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: you know so, so I mean she's special. She's special

882
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: just because she can pass. She makes her teammates better.

883
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: But if it's time to take over, she can do

884
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: that as well, you know so obviously, I mean you

885
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: have Asian Wilson, you have Brianna Stewart that are six',

886
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: five but they can do, everything shoot, threes you, know

887
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: put it on the. Floor LIKE i, said that true host.

888
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: Player it's kind of going away. Now it's like THE.

889
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: Nba you have people being somewhere versatile and everybody wants

890
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: to face the basket and dribble and pass and they

891
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: can do. Everything so but, YEAH i mean number, ONE

892
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: i would, Say, chelsea great for.

893
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: Sure tell me this you.

894
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 5: Coming from a small town and overseas and then making.

895
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 5: It you, know like when you started to get to

896
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 5: a situation where you had you, know you ain't got

897
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: to take care of pants. Anything when did, you, like

898
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 5: when you got some, money you got that bag and

899
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: you want to do something to treat t?

900
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: Shirt, right what did you do for?

901
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 5: Yourself even if it was like you looked back like,

902
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 5: yeah that was kind of, crazy but, like what did

903
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: you do when you first got situated and got some

904
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: good money and feel LIKE i could do something special for?

905
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Money some money wasn't as long as y'all, Know, Okay

906
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: so probably like A louis bag or something like. That you,

907
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: know it's like y'all be LIKE i bought my mama.

908
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: House i'm, like, NO i can do. That so, yeah

909
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: so it just splours a little bit more at the

910
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: mall instead of going to the guest. Store maybe you

911
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: go to The louis. Store you, know, YEAH i got.

912
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: You so it was something that you really wanted and

913
00:38:59,040 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: you just want.

914
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: To, yeah, yeah like A Duffel louis bag or. SOMETHING

915
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: i think that's probably the first.

916
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: Thing, yeah start bench, Trade Lindsay, Whaling Teresa, Weatherspoon Don?

917
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Staley who do you? Start who do you? Bench who

918
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: do you? TRADE i know.

919
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: This is you always all trying to get people in

920
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: trouble with his damn question this. Guy, okay So i'm

921
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 3: gonna go by. Age, Okay i'm gonna respect the. Og

922
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: So i'm going to start Doing i'm gonna bench T

923
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: spoon because she's still gonna come off the, bench And

924
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: i'm going to. Trade, Yeah i'm going to trade a

925
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: way you know we're. Going you, know age is a,

926
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: status so we're all respect The.

927
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: Ogs if you have to pick four other teammates that

928
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: you play with throughout your career that you played with

929
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: to make an all time starting, five who would be

930
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: them other fourth?

931
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: TEAMMATES i play with a lot of, people and as

932
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 3: a point, guard you, KNOW i was very very thankful

933
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: for them having great hands in basically grabbing my, assists

934
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 3: and you, know turning into. Baskets but this is a tough.

935
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: ONE i, Mean i'm gonna start With. YO i, MEAN

936
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: i want a championship With, Yo So i'm gonna start With.

937
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: Yo i'm gonna go With canvas just because. Versatility you,

938
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: know she can.

939
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: Play yo's crazy two.

940
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: Towns just just keeping, Track.

941
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah does it count? Overseas are Only? America everywhere? Wherever,

942
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: Alright So i'm going With Dinah trassi as my. TWO

943
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: i play with her And. RUSH i never played with

944
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 3: her in The, STATES i mean only All star. Games

945
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: but and then as the, THREE i THINK i go

946
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: with to make a, Catchings oh, catch that's That's i'm

947
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 3: leaving a lot of people.

948
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 5: Out so you spoke On Ruthie bowden And cheryl for,

949
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 5: like you, know those are some WHO i felt, like

950
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 5: BECAUSE i was really into it at that, time that

951
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 5: it was some. Superstars they really don't really get the.

952
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 5: Credit and the judge, dude just talk about how they

953
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 5: were and what they brought to the. Table how you,

954
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 5: know formidable they were as, players.

955
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Blue, collar you know both of. Them, RUTHIE i had

956
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: a chance to see it when own. Eyes we're, teammates

957
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: so just to, know like the work that she put

958
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: in the. Hours she's somebody THAT i respected. Tremendously like

959
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: coming Into, SACRAMENTO i knew THAT i was going to

960
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: play with, her AND i always looked up to her

961
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: And Cheryl, FORD i mean just obviously somebody that you.

962
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: Know her dad was, karmelone but she never let that.

963
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: Definer she created her own lane and she really put

964
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: in the. Work amazing, rebounder probably one of the best

965
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: that you, know we've ever. Seen it's just strong and

966
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: just could do. Everything you know around the.

967
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: Basket you always want to get the props from your,

968
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: peers you. Know you being an overseas player, Too how

969
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: does it feel when other players before and current players

970
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: recognize your, game love your, game respect your, game and

971
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: they tell you how dope they thought that you was to.

972
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: Them, YEAH i think that's. Everything and especially people that

973
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: had a chance to play with, me to know that

974
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: they believe THAT i made them better and they wanted

975
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: to play with me and they appreciated and they. RESPECT

976
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: i think the respect is everything when you respect your.

977
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: Peers it's funny BECAUSE i sent to a message BECAUSE

978
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: i watched the WHOLE i think it was three. Hours

979
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: the whole Like jersey retirement thing with The Seattle, storm

980
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: AND i wanted to go home BECAUSE i wanted to

981
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: watch it because that's how MUCH i respect, her AND

982
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: i feel like she did so much for the, game

983
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: and not just the women's not just baby like. Worldwide you.

984
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: KNOW i waited like three days AND i, SAID i

985
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: hope your phone has stopped blowing, up BUT i just

986
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: wanted to let you know THAT i watched the whole

987
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: thing AND i respect you so, much and she was just,

988
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: like you, know it comes better also from people that

989
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: you respect as, well you, Know and that's the, thing you,

990
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: Know it's like your peers and especially the ones that

991
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: really stayed in the league for a long time he

992
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: had a chance to play with or against and they

993
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: give you. Praise that's, everything and.

994
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 5: Shout Out seattle, too BECAUSE i felt like they did

995
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 5: that the right way on.

996
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: Her they went all.

997
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 5: Loud it was a multi step process like it should have,

998
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 5: been AND i felt like they did it to the,

999
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 5: tea putting it on like all the way on top

1000
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 5: of the key arena and all of the flag going

1001
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 5: on everything and went into it and then shout out

1002
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 5: to the.

1003
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 4: Fish she came with the green with.

1004
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 5: Gonna be fashed shout out that whole everything was, right

1005
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: pure with the way it should have, been because she's

1006
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 5: a super icon and, legend so it was good to

1007
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 5: see them celebrate her to.

1008
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: Right but that's a rap.

1009
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 5: Man we got a chance today to sit down with

1010
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 5: basketball royalty. Man we appreciate the legendary.

1011
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,799
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1012
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,920
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