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Speaker 2: Martin Wise joined here with Zach Harperzak. How you doing today, Pal?

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Speaker 3: I have been so unproductive today, it is insane.

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Speaker 4: Like I woke up.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna do a lot today. I'm gonna be,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna clean, I'm gonna write, I'm gonna, you know,

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Speaker 3: get ready for radio. I'm gonna get ready for radio

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Speaker 3: tomorrow because I'm doing serious sex m NBA radio tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 3: I did almost nothing. Honestly, I support it.

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Speaker 4: I'm very rested. I support it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: We got three hours, and I'm glad to hear your energized,

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Speaker 2: rested see it.

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Speaker 4: So that the day's been open. So you were locked

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Speaker 4: in on this, I'm sure absolutely all right.

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Speaker 2: So the news this happened over we had just hosted

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Speaker 2: the show last week and the quarterback carousels had not

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Speaker 2: quite stopped spinning. Now we have Russell Wilson and Jameis

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Speaker 2: Winston in the New York Giants quarterback room. I made

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Speaker 2: a joke earlier said there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 2: thanking God for those six to seven wins between the

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Speaker 2: two of Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston. But Todd McShay,

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Speaker 2: not formerly of ESPN, works for The Ringer. He's really

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Speaker 2: into this drafts off really big into how he made

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Speaker 2: his name, and now that he's kind of working at

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Speaker 2: the Ringer, he's not necessarily held to the same FCC

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Speaker 2: standards as he once was, and he's kind of, to me,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, taking his coverage up and not. So

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Speaker 2: if you want to check him out, I would recommend it.

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Speaker 2: But this is what he had to say about the

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Speaker 2: timing of the signing that the Giants made.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was very interesting. Sodor's there at three.

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Speaker 5: He's a really good player. He's got a chance to

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Speaker 5: develop into a really good starter in the NFL. But

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Speaker 5: if you're gonna do what's best for this organization and

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Speaker 5: you have a head coach who can develop quarterbacks, there's

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Speaker 5: a couple other guys that the grades aren't that far

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Speaker 5: off on and I can do it with Abdul Carter

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Speaker 5: or with Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: So the first thing that McShee had said in that

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Speaker 2: we ran the order backwards. But the first thing that

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Speaker 2: miche had said was that the fact that Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: signed within a day of watching of everybody going down

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Speaker 2: to cam Ward's private workouts in Miami, the fact that

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Speaker 2: he signed, that the Giants offered him, the contracts signed,

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Speaker 2: the contract signed Jamis and all of that it says

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Speaker 2: to him that Tennessee is not is not moving out

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Speaker 4: They're taking cam Ward right.

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Speaker 2: So now we're at now they're at at a position

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Speaker 2: where you're looking, okay, should Door will be left at that,

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Speaker 2: you know, and then you have every other quarterback right,

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Speaker 2: And mcshaye says that his grades are close to everybody else's,

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Speaker 2: like the Jackson Darshad Door's grades, not that far apart

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Speaker 2: when you consider even know they're being mocked, kind of

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Speaker 2: far apart. So that he suggests that the New York

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Speaker 2: Johnians who at Brian Dabo is a history of drafting corps,

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Speaker 2: of building up quarterbacks, Like you said in the clip

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Speaker 2: suggests they like, pass on your door at three, go

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Speaker 2: get one of these other young guys like Jackson Darter

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Speaker 2: or Tyler shar or somebody like that in their in

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Speaker 2: both things at once. Stabilize your team and also give

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Speaker 2: you a shot to shoot for the future, because if

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Speaker 2: you miss on this quarterback, at least you have rush

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Speaker 2: to get to do this year.

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Speaker 3: Maybe to me, if if Abdul Carter falls to three,

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Speaker 3: you you you join Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson in

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Speaker 3: praising God every five seconds.

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Speaker 4: That monster.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say that, man, that monster falls to three,

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Speaker 3: you have to take him. You're trying to win anyway,

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Speaker 3: right like, like there's been a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it all this stuff? Wasn't it right?

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Speaker 4: You? Obviously you let Barkley go.

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Speaker 3: And what happens when the Eagles happens with the Eagles

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Speaker 3: and everyone's saying, all right, you guys gotta win, like

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Speaker 3: so Abdul Carter is going to be.

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Speaker 4: A monster in this league.

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Speaker 3: I think he's I think he's by far the best

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Speaker 3: I would take him number one. It's crazy to me

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Speaker 3: know they need a quarterback and everything. Go sign somebody,

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Speaker 3: Go sign somebody next year.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Go draft somebody in the second round, third round, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter, Like, go get this guy if he's if

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Speaker 3: he falls to three, you have to take him with

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Speaker 3: your the Giants. And then yeah, like you have two

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Speaker 3: viable quarterbacks to help you win. I guess maybe stabilized. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you're not gonna go out there and like win

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Speaker 2: But I can't imagine that Rush or Jamis is gonna

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Speaker 3: But can they do enough to like make it not

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Speaker 2: And I think you know it's it's very much it's

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Speaker 2: like guard play in the NBA or watching Marts Madness Tournament.

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Speaker 2: You got to have at least stability at that position

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Speaker 2: because that's a guy handling the ball the most.

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Speaker 4: And you look at what Daniel Jones was able.

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Speaker 2: To do in his time in New York, and I

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: Maybe like a high level backup even at his heights.

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Speaker 2: Right as we're looking at you're looking to improve off

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Speaker 2: a playoff game, you know, with Daniel Jones and his

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Speaker 2: have Russ and Jamis, then it gives you the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to draft because I don't think if this was last year,

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Speaker 2: I think it matters that Shador wouldn't even be considered

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Speaker 2: in the top three or four quarterbacks out there. They're

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Speaker 2: all going into the same league. I understand this class

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Speaker 2: is individual, but they're all going into the same league, right,

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Speaker 2: so that's who he's competing against when you go in

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Speaker 2: a good ball handler and are but like investing too

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Speaker 2: And we've seen the Cleveland Browns do that already. Like

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Speaker 2: the Giants. What it does is it allows them not

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Speaker 2: when your two guys and Joe Shane and Brian Dayball,

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Speaker 2: especially when you consider the hard knocks of last offseason. Right,

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Speaker 2: you gotta have some levelist to Bill. You can't come

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Speaker 2: if you could, you come out one in five, you're

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Speaker 2: not gonna be there anymore. You come out two and four,

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna be there anymore. You gotta build a

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Speaker 3: I mean, Okay, let's say let's say they love Shador

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Speaker 3: right and he is there at three and they take him. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So now you've got Russ Jamis and Shador on the

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Speaker 3: roster next season. Why it's bad? Why it's bad? Roster man?

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Speaker 2: Even though Damis Jamis, I think it makes four million guarantees. Well,

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Speaker 2: if you get signed by another team, it had to

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Speaker 2: be for at least one point five So all in all,

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Speaker 2: Jamis is not going to be expensive to move.

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Speaker 4: Off of them, you need to three quarterback, like, but

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Speaker 4: he ultimately you didn't have to move off, right, like

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Speaker 4: you didn't have to sign them exactly, Like I just don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand the logic there.

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Speaker 3: Like to me, you're you're you're half drunk playing a

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Speaker 3: video game franchise motive, you know, two am like trying

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Speaker 3: to like, oh my god, I didn't know this guy

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Speaker 3: like it just it doesn't make sense to me, whereas

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Speaker 3: on either that weapon or that defender. What However, however

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Speaker 3: they think they're going to use him in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: whether they think he's a receiver or cornerback. I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's both, but whatever they decide, whatever a team

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Speaker 4: Okay, even if you think.

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Speaker 3: That's the guy, I would rather hit high on that

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Speaker 3: that pick where that that's Carter or Hunter and then

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Speaker 3: try to make a Jackson Dart or Jal Milroe or

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Speaker 3: whoever like later in the draft with less pressure, less

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Speaker 3: money like that. You know, it's a bad or. It's

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Speaker 3: not a great example because it's so rare, but I

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Speaker 3: think brock Perty at least showed you, hey, you can

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Speaker 3: get guys later, like obviously Tom Brady, he's not the

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Speaker 4: I'll give you a Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson was a later draft pick, I remember, and

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Speaker 2: they had signed Matt Flynn to be a starter and

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Speaker 2: then Russ beat him out in camp Vin Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Like there isn't there. This isn't a great quarterback draft,

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Speaker 3: but I think there are some guys that are worth

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Speaker 3: the draft instead of reaching high in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and that to me, we talked about it off

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Speaker 2: My draft strategy is like I'm looking for if there's

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Speaker 2: unicorns out there, I'll miss them. I'm looking for horses.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for horses that I know can run this race.

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Speaker 2: And Obdual Carter to me is Alysdale, we're talking like

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at I feel like I'm watching Michael Parsons

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Speaker 2: I can get him bending the like bending the edge.

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Speaker 2: I know the foot concerns on and so short all right,

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Speaker 2: So it's foot hurts. So what that's looking at You're

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Speaker 2: looking at thirteen sacks, right, you know what else is

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Speaker 2: gonna hurt the opposing quarterback? Exactly, That dude's gonna hurt.

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Speaker 2: So and if you especially in today's league, where you know,

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Speaker 2: we call guys like Joe Burrow pocket passers, Joe take

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Speaker 2: off and run. The idea of the guys just a

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Speaker 2: statue back there retired with Tom Brady right now.

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Speaker 4: Guys have movement, have ability.

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Speaker 2: Even old ass Aaron Rodgers is talking about he's trying

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousin's still a.

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Speaker 2: Statue, but that may be the last man standing in

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Speaker 2: terms of who's that guy. So I need a defensive

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Speaker 2: a defensive end that's able to break down and not

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Speaker 2: let a quarterback, you know, you know, do a fake

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Speaker 2: step and all of a sudden, my defense and grabbing

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Speaker 4: I need somebody who could tackle in the open field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we just we see it in every

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Speaker 2: It must stink, Zach. It must stink because they're the

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Speaker 2: Because the complaint of this turnament has been there's no

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Speaker 4: Oh look what nil has done to my beloved march madness.

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Speaker 2: Guys, whether or not you believe Derek Queen traveled, that

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Speaker 2: It's like when these guys are like some of these

437
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 2: guys like a year away from being able to rent

438
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Speaker 2: a car, you know what I'm saying, Like, like we're

439
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Speaker 2: real adults here.

440
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Speaker 3: In fact, they're almost off their parents' car insurance.

441
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Speaker 4: I like I'm thinking about it.

442
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Speaker 2: There are players in college basketball right now who probably

443
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Speaker 2: have voted in two presidential elections at least, right, and

444
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 2: that's where that's where their problem lies.

445
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 4: Like and in the time they've been in college have.

446
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Speaker 2: Voted in two presidential elections depending on how the I'm

447
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Speaker 2: played out, So like that's where all of this.

448
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Speaker 4: Comes from in my opinion.

449
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Speaker 2: You look at Auburn's team, they're older on an average

450
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Speaker 2: basis then the Oklahoma City thunder right, who lead the West.

451
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, They're they're like as a

452
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Speaker 4: team older.

453
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Speaker 2: So what we have right now, there's a lot of

454
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Speaker 2: grown men playing college basketball who won't be next year

455
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Speaker 2: because there won't be that that COVID year will have

456
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Speaker 2: finally expired.

457
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Speaker 4: Because at this point you could have played for.

458
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Speaker 2: Six seasons, yeah, you know, because you could have red

459
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Speaker 2: shirted one year, COVID another year, and then you have

460
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Speaker 2: four regular ones.

461
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Speaker 4: Haley van Lift made the Elite eight today for TCU.

462
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Speaker 4: It's the fifth time in her career she's made the

463
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Speaker 4: Elite eight. That's a lot. That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, no offense, that's too many, that's one

465
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Speaker 3: too many. You know what, I mean one too many times.

466
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Speaker 2: Just like that's good, but you know, LSU and it

467
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Speaker 2: just butll like that's nuts. And that's what we're seeing.

468
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Speaker 2: That's the we are seeing the final stage of that. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 2: and so everybody calmed down. Everybody, don't worry. Next year

470
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Speaker 2: there will be a thirteen seed or a twelve seed

471
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Speaker 2: that gets to this weekend and then gets their head

472
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Speaker 2: kicked in because they're going to be playing a one

473
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Speaker 2: seed So we'll all have our sacrificial lamb on Sweet

474
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Speaker 2: sixteen Elite eight weekend. Do you know what everybody be saying, then,

475
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Speaker 2: Zach oh Man, why can't these guys compete?

476
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Speaker 4: You know?

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but hey, we're the blue We're the blue collar

478
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Speaker 3: blue chipper organization. Right where are those we need? We

479
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: need the we need the blue bloods, that's what we need. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I want to see Duke Carolina, Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Kentucky, U C l A, Kansas, You see Santa.

482
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Speaker 4: Barbara at this stage of the game. Let's kick it

483
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Speaker 4: over to Steve the Seger. Uh, we get to go there.

484
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Speaker 4: It's five thirty, it's a thirty.

485
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Speaker 2: It's time for the update for Steve the Saga in

486
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Speaker 2: just the moment here as Florida looks like they are

487
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Speaker 2: going to advance.

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Speaker 4: Oh, actually, you know what, I may have said that

489
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Speaker 4: three point four second too soon, Steve, you're up.

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Speaker 8: It is eighty two to seventy nine Florida over Texas Tech.

491
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Speaker 8: Haley van Lidz, by the way, three different schools making

492
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Speaker 8: runs five times in the NCAAs because she started at Louisville.

493
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Speaker 8: And you reference the close game that the Florida Gators

494
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Speaker 8: played on the men's side last weekend. That was such

495
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Speaker 8: an impressive comeback because a lesser team would not have

496
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Speaker 8: won that game. There were so many times in the

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Speaker 8: second half last weekend where the Gators, instead of being

498
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Speaker 8: down three to five points, would have been down seven

499
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Speaker 8: or more and the game's starting to slip away, and

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Speaker 8: they came up with one great offensive possession after another,

501
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Speaker 8: led by their All American from Iona Walter Clayton Junior.

502
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Speaker 8: Thirty points right now in this game, including at the

503
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Speaker 8: line thirteen of fourteen. The free throwing has been superb

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Speaker 8: for the Gators in what has turned into an incredibly

505
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Speaker 8: close game. Florida at the line is twenty five of

506
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Speaker 8: twenty seven, Texas Tech just seven of thirteen from the stripe.

507
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Speaker 8: It is eighty four over Texas Tech, as Florida's just

508
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Speaker 8: hit a couple free throws with three point four seconds

509
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Speaker 8: to go. The Gators are that close to the Final four,

510
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Speaker 8: that close to winning the West Region Final in San Francisco,

511
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Speaker 8: the Gators record would go to thirty four and four.

512
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Speaker 8: They had a key sixteen to two run late in

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Speaker 8: the game. Texas Tech was leading the number one Seeds

514
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Speaker 8: with five and a half minutes to go, seventy one

515
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Speaker 8: to sixty one inbounds pass stolen Gators win. It is

516
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Speaker 8: a final eighty four seventy nine. Texas Tech is out

517
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Speaker 8: and finishes its season at twenty eight and nine. Coming

518
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Speaker 8: up in roughly half an hour the East Region Final

519
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Speaker 8: in New Jersey, one seed Duke against two seed Alabama.

520
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Speaker 8: It's due to tip just before nine pm Eastern time.

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Speaker 8: The Final Four is next weekend in San Antonio. At

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Speaker 8: the women's Sweet sixteen. Of course, USC without superstar Juju

523
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Speaker 8: Watkins out for the year due to injury, They're in

524
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Speaker 8: the second quarter sixteen to sixteen, with Kansas State sc

525
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Speaker 8: shooting twenty four percent from the floor six of twenty

526
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Speaker 8: five Kansas State six of twenty one shooting, Yukon got

527
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Speaker 8: forty points from Page Beckers and beat Oklahoma eighty two

528
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Speaker 8: to fifty nine. Victories for Texas and TCU and the

529
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Speaker 8: women's Sweet sixteen. The first NBA final of the night

530
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Speaker 8: went to Orlando easily passed Sacramento one twenty one to

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Speaker 8: ninety one. The Wizards, with a record of sixteen and

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Speaker 8: fifty seven, are tied in the third quarter at home

533
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Speaker 8: against the Nets, sixty one all Celtics lead at the

534
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Speaker 8: end of one thirty six twenty seven at the Spurs,

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Speaker 8: Ja Morant has return playing for the Grizzlies. Its Lakers

536
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Speaker 8: up at Memphis late first quarter thirty to twenty three.

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Speaker 8: NHL Saint Louis won its ninth straight game, two to

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Speaker 8: one at Colorado. Miami's Marlins have won in twelve innings,

539
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Speaker 8: five to four over Pittsburgh and the Yankees. Aaron Judge

540
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Speaker 8: had three home runs in a twenty to nine victory

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Speaker 8: against Milwaukee. Nester court te As, the guy who in

542
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Speaker 8: relief for the Yankees gave up the World Series Grand

543
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Speaker 8: Slam to Freddie Freeman last year, starts at Yankee Stadium

544
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Speaker 8: in a Milwaukee uniform today, gives up a home run

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Speaker 8: on the first pitch, and then a home run on

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Speaker 8: the second pitch, and then Judge steps up home run

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Speaker 8: on the third pitch.

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Speaker 4: Of the game.

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Speaker 8: In all, four home runs in the first inning against him,

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Speaker 8: eventually nine home runs for the Yankee lineup today twenty

551
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Speaker 8: to nine, the final. Again, the Florida Gators have advanced.

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Speaker 8: Duke versus Alabama coming up in men's basketball.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thanks Steve Martin, wis Zach Harper, coming

554
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Speaker 2: to you live from the tire iraq dot com svidios

555
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558
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559
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Speaker 2: the biggest games. There's no better place to prime you

560
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Speaker 2: for the tournament games than right here. Tune in Accountdown,

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562
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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. You

563
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Speaker 2: heard Steve say just a minute ago, first quarter of

564
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Speaker 2: this Lakers Grizzlies game winding down, John Morant back in

565
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Speaker 2: the lineup, returning to Memphis, but Taylor Jenkins not. He

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Speaker 2: will not be returning to them. He is out of

567
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Speaker 2: there after six seasons. And I believe I read the

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Speaker 2: winningest the highest winning percentage in Grizzly's history for a coach.

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Speaker 4: We saw him. This team was in the dold rooms a.

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Speaker 2: Few years ago, reached as high as I believe, the

571
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Speaker 2: two seed in the West at certain points in time,

572
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Speaker 2: had a few playoff runs with the Warriors. But now

573
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Speaker 2: saw you know, climbing, and the Grizzlies front office said,

574
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Speaker 2: Taylor Jenkins, thanks for the memories.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was this.

576
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Speaker 3: The writing on the wall was there for I don't

577
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Speaker 3: know about probably nine months to a year. You know,

578
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Speaker 3: this has been brewin for a little while. They fired

579
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Speaker 3: his assistant staff and he didn't get to hire a

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Speaker 3: new one.

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Speaker 4: That's usually a bad sign.

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Speaker 3: They hired this new guy, I think I'm saying his

583
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Speaker 3: name right, Tumas Lesalo, this finish coach. They threw a

584
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Speaker 3: lot of money at him to get him away from

585
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Speaker 3: Europe to come in. They had another coach, another assistant coach,

586
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Speaker 3: La Roach, come through and install a new offensive system

587
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Speaker 3: that is not something Taylor Jenkins was, you know, necessarily,

588
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: his style of basketball yeah, and and early on the

589
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Speaker 3: you know, the results were great. Memphis off to a

590
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Speaker 3: great start, but they also like kind of had an

591
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Speaker 3: easy schedule and they're beating up on some teams that

592
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Speaker 3: you know, may be easier to beat up on with

593
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Speaker 3: this new system. As things started to you know, maybe regress,

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Speaker 3: and they had a couple of a couple of injuries

595
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Speaker 3: and everything, they got to the you know, right before

596
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Speaker 3: the playoffs here with nine games left when the firing happened,

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Speaker 3: and they just said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not gonna do this, which I mean the timings,

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Speaker 2: the timing wildest part when you think about it. Also

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Speaker 2: just a note, I have never seen this collection of

601
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Speaker 2: owls before.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. It ain't.

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Speaker 2: My man's name is spelled t U O M A

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Speaker 2: S Toomas maybe Thomas. That looks it's like a different,

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Speaker 2: like a tweak on Thomas. I can tell you I

606
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Speaker 2: have been. I'm on like a three hundred and ninety five,

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Speaker 2: three hundred ninety six day streak on duo lingo of Swedish. Okay,

608
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Speaker 2: and this does not make sense to me as a

609
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Speaker 2: finish name right now. I've not taken finish, But I

610
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Speaker 2: got to assume there's some kind of you would think similarity, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then back to back eyes in the last name.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I know anybody with two eyes in

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Speaker 2: it anyway. Uh NBA hiring and firing of coaches does

614
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Speaker 2: seem to be kind of almost like happenstance. And you

615
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Speaker 2: see oftentimes like after a guy gets fired, the coaching

616
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Speaker 2: fraternity will then speak at their postgame press conferences about

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Speaker 2: how ridiculous this was and.

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Speaker 4: And all of that.

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Speaker 2: But like to your point about the riding being on

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Speaker 2: the wall fire and the staff they did they would

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Speaker 2: have eight in eight and twelve in the last twenty

622
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Speaker 2: games or something like that. I think they've lost their

623
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Speaker 2: last games where I averages seventeen points per so they

624
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Speaker 2: were kind of getting worked by certain teams and what

625
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Speaker 2: And this is Austin Rivers was actually talking about this.

626
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Speaker 2: I saw it a couple of days ago. This is

627
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Speaker 2: kind of it seems to me the curse of being good, right,

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Speaker 2: Like you're not great at Memphis, right, but you're not terrible, right,

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Speaker 2: but you're good enough to where you feel like you

630
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Speaker 2: should be able to win some playoff series. You're good

631
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Speaker 2: enough to feel like you should be able to make

632
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Speaker 2: some noise where the guys on the talking head shows

633
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Speaker 2: are saying, no, no, no, the.

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Speaker 4: Memphis is a contender right up there with Okac and

635
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Speaker 4: so on.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's not the case, right, And so I think

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Speaker 2: that's what Also you see a little bit of that.

638
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: It's like, man, we got a B minus, maybe here

639
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: can we improve to what a mine?

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Speaker 4: Right? And I think that's something you see how happened

641
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Speaker 4: often in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you look at this team, like their sixth

643
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Speaker 3: in offense, their eleventh in defense, that's great, Like those

644
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: those are good numbers. They've got a good record, they've

645
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Speaker 3: got a good star, they've got a you know, defensive

646
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: player that you're candidate, and Jaron Jackson junior John Morantz obviously,

647
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Speaker 3: you know, one of the you know, sort of faces

648
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Speaker 3: of the league. All that kind of went a couple

649
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: of years ago for obvious reasons. But like every they

650
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: check a lot of boxes. But the other concern is

651
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Speaker 3: Taylor Jenkins is not a good playoff coach. He's had

652
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Speaker 3: he's had some rough ones, like even that series they

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Speaker 3: won a couple of years ago against Minnesota on both sides,

654
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: that was and I like, I'm trying to say this

655
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: in a nice way. The dumbest playoff series I have

656
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: ever seen from two teams, Like both teams played the

657
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: dumbest basketball I've ever seen in an NBA.

658
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 4: So let me let me ask you this, what is it?

659
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: How would you if you had to say, like in

660
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: a tweet, what makes a good playoff coach?

661
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: It's gotta be adjustments from game to game, Like in

662
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: game adjustments like, yeah, you need to be able to

663
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: you know, make the right substitutions, and you got to

664
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: be able to draw stuff up for timeouts and everything like, yeah,

665
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: that stuff matters. What matters more is the adjustments from

666
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: game to game on like, all right, how are we

667
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: gonna try to take away this star player? How are

668
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: we gonna try to throw different coverages at him to

669
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: to make them adjust with with you know, either zones

670
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: or double teams or whatever like and that stuff. Memphis

671
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: really struggled on and the really struggled offensively, Like even

672
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: these numbers this year, no one's really buying them as

673
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: an offensive juggernaut, right right, And they're sixth in the

674
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: league in an offensively charged league, But no one's looking

675
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: at like how do you stop Memphis in the playoffs? Right, No,

676
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: one's looking at that. Yeah, I tend to agree with that.

677
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: Like I'm looking here the Lakers, Memphis is above the

678
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: Lakers and the standings. This is a seven game series.

679
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: I'm taking purple and gold every day. Jerry Jackson Junior.

680
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: Like you said, Defensive Player of the Year candidate. We'll

681
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: talk about that at the top of next hour. The

682
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year of voting Zach Rden article

683
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: for The Athletic. You can check that out as well

684
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: on the Defensive Player of the Year and how all

685
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: that goes. Victor Winbinyama was shoeing. Then they got that

686
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: pesky sixty five game rule. You know, Pesky's a nice

687
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: way of saying stupid. That's stupid sixty five game rule

688
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: that is really ruining a lot of award stuff.

689
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: And you know, we will get to that at seven.

690
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: Was it I was doing the math room. We'll get

691
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: to that at nine. There you go, We'll get to

692
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: that at nine eastern sixth Pacific. We'll talk about that

693
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: in just a moment. We're coming up next. It's the

694
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: drama that has swept sports talk everywhere. And you know

695
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: what my fiance told one day that all these shows,

696
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: all it is is just real housewives for men, the

697
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: real housewives of Beverly Hills.

698
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: And so on and so forth.

699
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: Well, we'll take a we'll take a detour into the

700
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: real house husbands of the NBA. Coming up next to

701
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Speaker 2: Martin wife, Zach Harper, Fox Sports Radio. Don't listening to

702
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Radio coming to your life and you

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Speaker 2: tire erect dot com Studios.

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Speaker 4: Martin Weiss is Zach Harper. So Zach uh.

705
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Speaker 2: You know, it's another episode in the in the drama

706
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: between steven A and Lebron. They hare the Lebron versation

707
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: on Pat McAfee's show, which to me, honestly as a

708
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: way more interesting on the sports media side of things

709
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: as a guy who's.

710
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 4: I dive into that.

711
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: You know, you know, Andrew Marshan Junior is what they

712
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: call me in terms of guys.

713
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: Really, that's what they call you. Wow, Noah.

714
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: But in terms of the dynamics of the network and

715
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: all that very very interesting when you consider it. I know,

716
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: steven A is sleeping on a bet of money, so

717
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: he's not too worried about it, but he is seemingly

718
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: very worried about what Lebron James had to say about

719
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: him going so far to take the next show and

720
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: go ahead and address all of it. I think the

721
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: only person who came out looking clean in this Brian

722
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: Windhorst after getting the shot from Lebron, after the way

723
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: he handled it and saying, look, uh, I owe a

724
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: lot to Lebron in my career, and I'm happy that

725
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: he was able to cover him in so many words,

726
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: and he's said like the best friend thing.

727
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what that's about, but yeah, that was

728
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: a weird shot by like I know Wendy, Like he's

729
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: about as professional and great as it gets, Like he's

730
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: not someone who is riding coattails and all that stuff.

731
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: Like yeah, Like it helps.

732
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: That they grew up in the same area of Ohio,

733
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: I guess, and they came up like he was coming

734
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: up as a journalist. Lebron becomes the biggest star in

735
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: the NBA, and like, yeah, he was covering him and

736
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: that helps. But Wendy has separated himself long ago from

737
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: Lebron's story, So it was just a weird, Like Wendy's

738
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: not the type of guy who's like, yeah like me

739
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: and Lebron, like he's never been like that. It was

740
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: just a weird shot at him. That was the biggest

741
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: thing where I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah, it's

742
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: like Lebron was over there. Just go after steven A.

743
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: Go after steven A like that. You know, he's going

744
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: after your your parenting and all that stuff that, Like, yeah,

745
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: I get that, But here's the here's my issue with this.

746
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: All right.

747
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: I get that it's wrestling, and I get that it's

748
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 3: too too you know, very successful, wealthy men with incredible

749
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: egos and their bombastic and all this stuff, and they're

750
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: gonna try to go over the top on all this stuff. Right,

751
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: I get all there at a certain point, and I

752
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: this is more towards stephen A than is Lebron because

753
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: as like steven A is the quote unquote journalist involved here, right,

754
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: big quotes, big quotes. Yeah, Like he's a media personality.

755
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: He's not really a journalist anymore. He's a media personality.

756
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: I at so many points in this in the last

757
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: few years, I look at the journalism landscape and I

758
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: go I look around, and I'm like, no one's gonna

759
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: do anything about this, Like, I like, am I gonna

760
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: have to be a standard here? I'm the one that

761
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 3: makes dumb jokes all the time. Yeah, I wear sweats

762
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: ninety percent of the day. I can't be a standard here.

763
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: That's not on me. No one's gonna say anything, no

764
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: one's gonna do anything. This is just what it is.

765
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: Now. We're just gonna accept this like we're gonna have

766
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 4: this circus here.

767
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: You know what that, honestly, the blessing of it all was.

768
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: It's that Lebron hit that game winner, that game winning

769
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: tip in. Yeah, because lord, haven't mer I have goosebumps

770
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: on my arm right now imagining what would have happened

771
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: if Friday Night's game, or say, if Thursday night's game

772
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: was the Chicago Thursday night if that had happened the

773
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: day of the McAfee interview where Lebron gives up the

774
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: corner three turns over the inbound and then takes Josh

775
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: Getty right in the nose from half court.

776
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: Oh, steven A comes riding the ball into first take,

777
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: And yeah, absolutely.

778
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 4: It would have been.

779
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's honestly and steven A's best interest that that

780
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: didn't happen, because it really is, because there's really no

781
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: win here anymore.

782
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: No, it's so the whole thing's so corny, like that's

783
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: the thing is like at first, like all right, we

784
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: get the video and we get the whole like I

785
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna talk about this, but I'm like, okay, you

786
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: were always gonna talk about this. But that's fine. And again,

787
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with stephen A. I don't

788
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: really consume the stuff because I'm more interested in like

789
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: talking about actual sports, sharing the conversation of sports. But

790
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: but all right, whatever, like that's that's a lane that

791
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: plenty of people like, go for it. When when Lebron

792
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: then goes on McAfee and I'm like, okay, like whatever,

793
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: we'll see what stephen A responds. And then he responds

794
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: in a weird way, and I was like, okay, can

795
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: we be done with this? That was the thing, you know.

796
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm just like this has gotten weird. This isn't like

797
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: a good back and forth. This isn't a rap battle,

798
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: this isn't a roast.

799
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: None of this.

800
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: Is where I'm like, oh my god, who's what's he

801
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: gonna say next.

802
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 4: I'm like to respond like this isn't. This isn't this isn't.

803
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: Kendrick and Drake, this isn't like this isn't anything. If

804
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: like this is this is two people who are super successful,

805
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, you should be pat like you guys had your.

806
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 4: Little round move on. Yeah.

807
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: I think that's why I think Windhors came out the cleanest,

808
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: because absolutely, as a journalist, you are not supposed to

809
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: be the story. And stephen A was inserted in. I'm

810
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: not saying, okay, take everything. Let's say it all starts

811
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: when Lebron approaches him. Right at that point, you're in

812
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: the story now, so tell you're part of it.

813
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 4: But then that's all you have to do.

814
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: I don't believe that the Lebron versation happens in the

815
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: same way if like he said it, if he hadn't

816
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: going on the Taylor Swift level tour talking to everybody

817
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: about this thing then and I got like, to your point,

818
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: I get it, ratings, clicks, so on and so forth.

819
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: But for business, for him, right, for his business.

820
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: But we have reached a point where like when you're

821
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: considering that, like what multi millionaire, probably billionaire in all assets,

822
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: Lebron James is going to hit anyone much less you

823
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 2: in front of forty thousand people, Like, it's just not happening.

824
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: It's not right and the idea that it would is.

825
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: A fantasy land in general, and that's where he ends

826
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: up to being like, Okay, we have really lost the plot.

827
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 3: That's the thing is like we've gotten to a point

828
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 3: before where like I'll criticize a player or whatever on

829
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: social media and some fan will be like, you wouldn't

830
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: say that.

831
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: It was like, I've never tweeted anything.

832
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: I wouldn't I wouldn't say to a player's face, right,

833
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: I've never And they're like, well, I'm like, these aren't

834
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 3: like uncontrollable people who are just gonna swing on you.

835
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: They will disagree with my criticism, but they're also not

836
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: going to risk it, Like they're not gonna swing Like,

837
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: none of that's gonna happen.

838
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: They are adults, adult with each other, right, they don't

839
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: fight with each other end games and the heat of competition.

840
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: The most that's happened is Joel Embiid pushed the shoulder

841
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: of a reporter recently. That's God forgot about that.

842
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: I would have loved to, but that's because he invoked

843
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: the name of his dead brother, right.

844
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: It was something that had very little to do with basketball,

845
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: well outside of the fact that Joel Embiid is a

846
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: basketball player. Also, what I like to see in the

847
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: push and just how much of a push it was, Well,

848
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: because it was assault and then it was a push,

849
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: and then it was like, oh, that got walked back

850
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: very quickly. About an hour later, it felt like it

851
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: might have been it. This is a slight tap on

852
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: the back and be like, hey, buddy, I can of

853
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: get your attention here please. Draymond Green's been getting attention

854
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: both for headlines and he might win this award. What

855
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: Zach Harper think about it? We'll get to that coming

856
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: up in just a minute. Martin whit Zach Harper, Fox

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Speaker 2: day and first shot of the game, three nothing, Duke

868
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: three nothing flagged against everybody else, Zach, we were talking

869
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: about Cooper flag earlier today this quickly, what team do

870
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: you think you know in the lottery that he could

871
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: come in and make a I won't say. Obviously, we

872
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: kind of feel the same way about him, so I'm

873
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: not trying to put him in a bad spot, but

874
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: fit well initially, like with their roster is currently constructed.

875
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: I think the two spots I would want to see

876
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: him the well, three spots I would want to see

877
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: him the most. I would want to see him obviously

878
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: San Antonio, that would be the fun one. With Wemby,

879
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: I'd want to see him in Washington next to sar

880
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: I actually think that would be fun. I like a

881
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: lot of their young guys. They need a guy.

882
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: Yep.

883
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: I'd want to see him in Utah, not just for

884
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 3: like the whole white joke thing. Sure, Like I think

885
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: like with the players they have put in him, you

886
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: could put him next to market In and Walker Kessler

887
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: and that's a good front court, Like it's big. Yeah,

888
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 3: they unique guards. Still, I don't know if Conte George

889
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: is going to develop the way they want him to.

890
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if Collier is gonna develop the way

891
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 3: they want him to. But I just think like that

892
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: that level of Battle of Front Court with the how

893
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: big they are, the skill set and everything that intrigues me.

894
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely obviously intriguing NBA prospect. We'll talk about him,

895
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, at nine forty five, actually talk about what

896
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: we feel about him in that at the next level.

897
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 4: But I think we both have a little surprising.

898
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: I think by most people's standards opinions on what Cooper

899
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: Flag is.

900
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: Going to be. By the way, he just double dribbles. Listen, listen.

901
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: I saw it and I was gonna mention it to

902
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: you afterwards, because all right, you know what.

903
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 4: I'm telling the whole story.

904
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: No, because I think the kid's name is Grant Nelson,

905
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: who plays for Alabama. But that's the white guy at Alabama.

906
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: It was a TV and Zach looks at me. He says,

907
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: no way, that guy works at the Ricord.

908
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 4: There's no way. It's the college basket. He's got the

909
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 4: mustache for it.

910
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: And I said, you know, I one hundred percent agree

911
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: with you. And earlier we were talking about Cooper Flag

912
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 2: and so we're concerned about his ball handling. Brant Nelson

913
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: beat him to the spot of it and pick up

914
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: his dribble and it was very much par for the

915
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: course that we have been discussing prior.

916
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 4: This dude is a killer, though, Knupple, I don't like him.

917
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: You don't like him.

918
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: He's six six sixty seven. He plays like a six

919
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: y to two.

920
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: Oh, that's what I don't like.

921
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: If he played, if he played like he was a wing,

922
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: I'd be in because he could shoot, like, yeah, I'm

923
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: really sniper.

924
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go to a guy who can't though,

925
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: Draymond Green. Draymond Green is a new betting favorite for

926
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: a defensive Player of the Year. Zach Harper. You wrote

927
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: an article about this for The Athletic titled NBA Awards Watch,

928
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: Draymond Green takes Defensive Player of the Year lead.

929
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: But should he?

930
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: Now, don't spoil it? Yeah, but should he? I will

931
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: spoil it? Okay, because spoile it does spoil it.

932
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: But you should still subscribe to the Athletic because I

933
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: keep me employed.

934
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 4: Big fan of jobs here, big fan of jobs here. Uh.

935
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: Look, nobody was talking Draymond Green for Defensive Player of

936
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: the Year when the Warriors were twenty five and twenty

937
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 3: six and they had a great defense and they didn't

938
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: have Jimmy Butler. Yet nobody was doing that right. I

939
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: didn't hear his name in any of it. It was

940
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 3: obviously Wemby before he went down, it was Heavin Mobley

941
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: was in the mix Jared Jackson Junior.

942
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: Nobody meant Dyson Daniels also in the mixer. I feel

943
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: like Dyson Daniels was like the hipster pick. Yeah, if

944
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: you really watched the NBA, you know Diyson Daniels has

945
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: three steals a game.

946
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: He sure does. He's also on the Hawks. Like, it's

947
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: just it's not gonna happen. But also that's a lot

948
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: of people are betting on him now and that's moving

949
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: the odds. But Draymond Green, like and again, Draymond Green's

950
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: had a great defensive season. He has been fantastic. That

951
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: defense has been good. The only reason he became the

952
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: favorite is because the Warriors started winning. And to me,

953
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: consistency matters in this. Once Wenby went down, it was

954
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: between Jaron Jackson Junior and Evan Mobley. Then Jaron Jackson

955
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: Junior went down for a few games, and to me,

956
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: just Evan Mobley like, we keep I feel like the

957
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: betting nods and the conversations just keep trying to not

958
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: give it to Evan Mobley for some reason. I don't

959
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 3: know why he's the defensive player of the Year. He's

960
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: been great, he has been consistent all season long. I

961
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: think so too. I'm with that.

962
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: I don't think that as as good as Draymond has been,

963
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it's like we're talking about the best, yeah,

964
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: the of the.

965
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: Year, like the umber one guy.

966
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: And to me, I thought that Evan Mobley honestly had

967
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: a better case against Wemby than people were giving him

968
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: credit for it, in part because of team success matters

969
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: to me a lot in these things, like it really

970
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: unless you're doing Rookie of the Year type thing. Team

971
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: success really matters to me when I'm looking at defensive

972
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: players like to point a, Dyson Dames been on the Hawks, Okay,

973
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: he's got three seasonle game, how many of them are

974
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: coming when against the backup point guard because team's up

975
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: to thirty. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, how

976
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: many of those are coming? Like, and I'm not knocking it,

977
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 2: that still matters. But when I'm looking at a guy

978
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: who's anchoring one of the best defenses in the league,

979
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the league. That gives

980
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: a bump that matters to me even over more at

981
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: some of your raw number counting numbers.

982
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: And so yeah, even like even when Wemby was active

983
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: right before the blood clot, Like I looked at that

984
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: as Wenby was the heavy favorite. I mean, he was

985
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: running away with it because of the block shots, right,

986
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: because he had cool stats. Not that he wasn't deserving.

987
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 3: He was absolutely if you had number one in your

988
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: rankings for the award, I don't think it's wrong, but

989
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 3: to me, Evan Mobley was right there. The thing about

990
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 3: Wemby is like you would watch games and he had

991
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: these moments like he didn't really get back on defense,

992
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: he was slow to rotate. Why because he's a kid, right,

993
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: he's figuring out he's twenty. Yeah, like he's gonna have

994
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: moments where he's not you know, he doesn't have the

995
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: motor yet to be in shape to play hard for

996
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: thirty eight minutes on every possession, where like it just

997
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 3: doesn't happen.

998
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: Everywhere with the with the thrombrosis.

999
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that seems to be something like is that

1000
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: it's not unreasonable to think that that could have been

1001
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: impacting the way he was moving or.

1002
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I don't know when, but like, because

1003
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: so you could maybe wrap some of that in short, absolutely, yeah,

1004
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: if that was part of it, then then yeah, absolutely.

1005
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: But to me, either way, what you were seeing on.

1006
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 3: The court, the peaks were the best, the absolute best,

1007
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: but he had some lows, whereas Mobiley was so consistent

1008
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: across the board.

1009
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, if you, if.

1010
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: You valued consistency versus the highs and lows, I would

1011
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: also accept that. That's to me, they were even. So

1012
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Like I thought Evan Moby was getting

1013
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: a raw deal. Then he becomes the favorite, you know,

1014
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: kind of by default because Wenby goes down for the

1015
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: rest of the year and and Draymond. Like to me,

1016
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: I don't think it would be wrong if Draymond won it,

1017
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 3: but I also kind of think it would be a makeup, like, hey,

1018
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: you only have one for your career, here's another one, yea,

1019
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: and that should not be the reason you win it.

1020
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: I wholeheartedly agree.

1021
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: Now, one of the things that the reason why this

1022
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: conversation is a conversation is because of the sixty five

1023
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: game limit, which I called I forget pesky or something

1024
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: like that.

1025
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 4: You said, that's the best word for stupid. Stupid. So

1026
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: talk about why you think that's a.

1027
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: Stupid limit, because I sort of a sixty five is tough,

1028
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: but I agree with the concept in general.

1029
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if people know why we have this rule.

1030
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: The reason we have this rule is not because of

1031
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: load management. It's not to get players on the court.

1032
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 3: It's because we were trying to sell TV rights as

1033
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: a league.

1034
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what happened.

1035
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: Because if you're gonna pay billions of dollars to broadcast

1036
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: as a national partner, whether you're Amazon or NBC or

1037
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: re upping as ESPN or your TNT trying to keep

1038
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 3: it or whatever, if you're gonna pay billions of dollars

1039
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 3: for this thing over the next seven to ten years,

1040
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: however long that deal is, you want to know that

1041
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: the stars are gonna play. So it's loosely tied to

1042
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: load management. But it wasn't to actually correct it. It

1043
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 3: was to show good faith of hey, we're gonna correct

1044
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: this problem right once that deal got signed and nobody

1045
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 3: cares about that. The money's there, Yeah, the money's there,

1046
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: and so you did this to show good faith to

1047
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: get the money and all this stuff in my opinion,

1048
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: and now you have players missing out on all these opportunities,

1049
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: like here's here's a dumb part of the rule, Ti Jerome, right,

1050
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: and no one's gonna care about this out outside of

1051
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: Cleveland or maybe Virginia because you played there, Ti Jerome,

1052
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: I care you, and you next to me. TI Jerome

1053
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 3: should be one of the Most Improved Player candidates. Yeah,

1054
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: he's not eligible even though he will have played sixty

1055
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 3: five games. Why because he has so many games where

1056
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: he hasn't played twenty minutes in those games. That's an

1057
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: other part of the rule. You have to play twenty

1058
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: minutes for a certain number of those games. That like,

1059
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 3: that's part of the rule. And so you're ineligible for

1060
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: MVP Defense Player of the Year, Most Improved All NBA

1061
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 3: All Defense because of the stuff.

1062
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: And to why I think that because I do fundamentally

1063
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with the TV right side of

1064
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: this thing. Where I turn on the game, there should

1065
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: be a reasonable expectation agree that the stars are going

1066
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: to play absolutely.

1067
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: Now, the issue I have.

1068
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: With the sixty five is I think that there is

1069
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: what's only seventeen so games you can miss, which Duken

1070
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: miss seventeen games in a year very easily. You don't

1071
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: have to get hurt. I mean, you like ankle here.

1072
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 2: I don't know how many I put it like this.

1073
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: I think Steph is taking with two or three games

1074
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 2: off this year. The rest have been do to some ailment, right, Like,

1075
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: but Steve Kurt actually came out and said we're resting

1076
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: him and it's only been one or two games this

1077
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: year that he's done that. And he's one of the

1078
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 2: oldest players in the league. Yeah, So I just feel

1079
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: like it should there should be some level because I

1080
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: think what bother me is when you have guys who

1081
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: play fifty or play forty five games in a year,

1082
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: and then you have another guy plays eighty two and

1083
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: that guy gets the All NBA nod.

1084
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you know what I'm.

1085
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: Saying, Well, maybe if he had played the other thirty

1086
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: five games, he would have stunk.

1087
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 4: This is the thing.

1088
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 3: There was like a three year run where and I'm

1089
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: lucky enough I have a vote. I'm one of the

1090
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: voters for the awards, and I didn't vote Lebron two

1091
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: out of three years for All NBA, right, even though

1092
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: his numbers are great and everything, because he played like

1093
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: fifty two games and fifty four games and the other

1094
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: guys were like in the sixties or whatever, and some

1095
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 3: Lakers fan was like, you're clearly by us. I'm like, no,

1096
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 3: he didn't play like he didn't play compared to the

1097
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: other guys. If you give me ten more games of this,

1098
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: I'm in. But we should value the games. So I

1099
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 3: think that shouldn't be something that rules you ineligible. It

1100
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: should be something that, like you consider in the voting.

1101
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: By the way, like four of the last ten defensive

1102
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: player of the years would be ineligible with this rule,

1103
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: and so.

1104
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: Like I I think.

1105
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: That's I just think sixty five is too punitive. Yeah,

1106
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: I think it's too puny. I agree, because I guys

1107
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: are gonna you have to have guys are gonna get hurt,

1108
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: Like I would even maybe if you wanted to take

1109
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: it from sixty five games to maybe like ten games

1110
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: of rest designation, right or something like that, I know

1111
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: they would just play with the injury report and so on,

1112
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: and I know they kind of do that in this moment.

1113
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 4: They do it anyway.

1114
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like, I feel the fact that there

1115
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: should be some level of standardization across this, Like when

1116
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 2: you're talking about the NFL MVP.

1117
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: But guy got hurt in week ten. He's not in

1118
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: the conversation at all.

1119
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 6: But does there have to be an exact number at all?

1120
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: So that's producer Ian. I think that's the thing I'm

1121
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: trying to get to here with that. Ian is like

1122
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: more of a I don't say it's more of a

1123
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 2: field thing, right, but.

1124
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: Like, well, everything I really do.

1125
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 6: Everything else about not everything, but a lot of a

1126
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 6: lot else about the MVP award is just off of feel,

1127
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 6: you know. It's not like everything about who gets the

1128
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 6: MVP award is like, Okay, we have to really figure

1129
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 6: out how to balance he averaged the most points, he

1130
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 6: played this amount of games, Like, no, it's just who

1131
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 6: we the viewers watch and say, yes, that guy's the

1132
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 6: most valuable player.

1133
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 3: They make it intentionally ambiguous.

1134
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1135
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Like I've talked to voters before who have said, oh,

1136
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: this guy didn't show up in the playoffs. Again, I'm

1137
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: not voting for him next year. I'm like, and I'm like,

1138
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: you can't vote that way that Like, it's my vote,

1139
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 3: I can do what I want. I'm like, it should

1140
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: just be about that season. Like I very much believe

1141
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 3: in that. I don't believe in voting fatigue at all.

1142
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 3: If the guy is the MVP for nine straight years,

1143
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: he's the MVP for nine straight years.

1144
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: I will say this as I peruse this column. I

1145
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: have one issue.

1146
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 4: I have two issues, two issues, but one massive issue.

1147
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: But it was flawless. I mean it's close, only.

1148
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 2: Two not a third, uh, but the one's massive. So

1149
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: the first issue to me, JB. Bicker Staff should be

1150
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: the head the coach of the year. You have Kenny

1151
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: Atkinson here. I think JB should be the coach of

1152
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: the year. I wrote about that a couple of weeks ago.

1153
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: It was like, all right, what improved should it be about?

1154
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: Surprise or the actual actual coach of the year?

1155
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: Is it harder to go from the worst team to

1156
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: a good team or a good team to an elite team?

1157
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: And I and I don't know, Like I I'm up

1158
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: in the air on that.

1159
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: I feel like worst team to a good team. But

1160
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: I understand your point. That's where the NFL gives it out.

1161
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 2: Like Andy Reid only has like one or two Coach

1162
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: of the Year awards despite being Belichick. I think as

1163
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: like four, you know, or two or three despite being

1164
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: obviously one of the best coaches for twenty some years

1165
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: in the league.

1166
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago, by the way, I had

1167
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: bigger staff. Number one, Cleveland lost their stuff.

1168
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 4: Really, they were real mad.

1169
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: They're like, you just did this to like get noticed.

1170
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't think you're getting hot. Take clicks

1171
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: of the year.

1172
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: That's the way to do it if you want, if

1173
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: you want to really drive the online traffic, pick the

1174
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: versus Cleveland against each other. Cleveland is an interesting They

1175
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: seem to campaign for these awards in a way that

1176
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: its like, was it DeAndre Hunt.

1177
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: Was the sixth man?

1178
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: For DeAndre Hunter, He's like, oh, you know, you got

1179
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: Ty Jerome on the roster.

1180
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: It's so funny. There just all of a sudden they're like, oh,

1181
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: he's got to be six man. He got there a

1182
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: week ago.

1183
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: But here's the beef.

1184
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: I have the number one beef ironic that it's number one,

1185
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: because how in the world can the guy who's the

1186
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: most improved player also have been the number one overall pick.

1187
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't like, it doesn't jive with me, doesn't sim Well, he.

1188
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 4: Was supposed to be really good. That's why they picked

1189
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: him number one.

1190
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,959
Speaker 2: In Kate Cunningham and I get that he's had he's

1191
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: really stepped his game up, Yes, but I mean the

1192
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: most improved player being the number one overall pick. It's

1193
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: like when they did it with Jah and when they

1194
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: had John Moran. When he gave it to Desmond Bane,

1195
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: I feel like that's Desmond Baine is the type of

1196
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: guy who qualifies for mi IP. Who do you think

1197
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 2: has that trophy right now? I know Jaw doesn't have it.

1198
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: I assume that Desmond Bane. It has Jaw's name on it.

1199
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: Good point. Why would he have that?

1200
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 7: Here's the thing.

1201
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about kid cunning, him being the most improved.

1202
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: Those stats last year were meaningless. Sure, they were absolutely meaningless.

1203
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: And he was how do I say this? He was

1204
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 3: so scared of fourth quarters. He wasn't even taking shots.

1205
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: And this is like they're like nineteen straight losses into

1206
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: this twenty eight game losing streak and he's just giving

1207
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: the ball j and Ivy and stand in the corner

1208
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what are you doing? I would rather

1209
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: you go zero for twelve and keep losing, then go

1210
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: one for three and just not even run anything. And

1211
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: it's not like, oh, I'm setting guys up like he

1212
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 3: was just not doing anything. This year, he is trying

1213
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: and it's been better, and he's better defensively. Like I

1214
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 3: think he actually has led his team to stuff this year,

1215
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: like led them to where this stuff matters. And I

1216
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 3: do think that matters. I don't think it's just about numbers.

1217
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: I think making the numbers in the defense matter. I

1218
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 3: just I understand. I understand conceptually.

1219
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: Daniels to me feels like yeah, because he was, but

1220
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: he also just didn't.

1221
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 4: He didn't play.

1222
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: True all right, So going, let's say moving forward, this

1223
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: team signed a guy. This is the thing how the

1224
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: NFL works. Like a lot of times we'll see, oh, man,

1225
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: can you believe they're moving on from.

1226
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 4: This guy or that guy?

1227
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: But oftentimes is it a name that we know or

1228
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: a player that's going to contribute. Team just made a

1229
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: big move for their young quarterback. We're trying to figure

1230
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: out name or contributor. We'll get to that coming up next.

1231
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: Martin White, Zach Harper, Fox Sports Radio coming to you

1232
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: a lot from the tire rack dot Com studios. You

1233
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: can hit us up on Twitter with your two cents.

1234
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm at Martin Weiss, I'm joined here with Zach Harper,

1235
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: at tak hoops like Gus Williams, George Sands. George Sands,

1236
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: Zach is a trivia monster, tweets us trivia all the time,

1237
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: says Gus Williams won the NBA Comeback Player of the

1238
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: Year award spite sitting out the previous season on a

1239
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: contract dispute.

1240
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: That's just a fun fact.

1241
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: That is a fun fact. I wish they had the

1242
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: Comeback Player of the Year award. They got rid of it.

1243
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 4: That's you know what. They don't have that in the NBA,

1244
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Why not the NBA, I don't know.

1245
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: Gotta wonder about that. Who'd win it this year? Ben Simmons,

1246
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 4: That's what I'd vote for. Ben Simmons.

1247
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: Don't.

1248
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: I don't.

1249
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: I don't think I actually believe that. I just want I'll.

1250
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: Tell you what, I have never really had the belief

1251
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: I'm better at anything that a professional athlete does at

1252
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: their job.

1253
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 4: Then you know what, and than they are.

1254
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: Except I can shoot free throws better than Benson, Oh

1255
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: for sure. I can shoot free throws better than Vincent.

1256
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: If you put me in an NBA game today, I

1257
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: could make.

1258
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: Crowd out there, You're good.

1259
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: I could make at least one out of four free throws.

1260
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: I feel confident in You think he's going over for well, well, yeah,

1261
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't have to. I could make at least one

1262
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: out of four free throws now now and then could

1263
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: I get open?

1264
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: Hell? No, you know what I'm saying.

1265
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: Anything else that happened in that moment was because they

1266
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: wanted it to for me. You know what I'm saying,

1267
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: as soon as anybody cared, it'd be over. But I

1268
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: could make as a seventy eight percent free throw shooter

1269
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: in high school, I could make one free throw.

1270
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 4: Okay, seventy it's not bad. I'm saying.

1271
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, fourth quarter, you get in there, kid.

1272
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: You gotta go make your free throws.

1273
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 4: You gotta go whin. It's the game. Did you every

1274
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 4: so often? Okay? You know say pro merchant?

1275
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 6: Wow?

1276
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: Because all I could do was run and shoot. I

1277
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: couldn't dribble at all.

1278
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: Hey, you want a crazy stat, real quick, go for it.

1279
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: The last two seasons Joel and Bead fifty eight games,

1280
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: Ben seven sixty.

1281
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 4: Wow. How about that.

1282
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: That's tough, that's Reckley, that's incriminating. I saw that from

1283
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: stat Muse yesterday this morning. Yeah, that's beautiful. So Stefan

1284
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 3: Diggs sons with the Patriots. It's a three year, sixty

1285
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: nine million dollars deal.

1286
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: I believe, which you know sometimes pro football talking Mike

1287
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: Floyd don't do the best, but he does real God's

1288
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: work with this stuff. When he actually really breaks down,

1289
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: the contract turns out is like a one year deal

1290
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: with twenty three million dollars guaranteed, with two team options

1291
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: and so on and so forth.

1292
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: But this is what I was talking about.

1293
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: Were talking about name verse production, right, Stefan Diggs was

1294
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: a very very big name in Buffalo, goes to Houston.

1295
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: Nico Collins has the Pro Bowl year, right, and Dick's

1296
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Speaker 2: terrs is acl And now he goes to the Patriots team,

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Speaker 2: which is to say, devoid of weapons. I put it

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Speaker 2: like this, that's probably the safest team. Like if weapons

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Speaker 2: are dangerous, the Patriots are the safest team out there, right, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So add Stefan dis to this, I think more of

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Speaker 2: a name. But what do you expect to see Diggs

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Speaker 2: in New England? And how it works with Drake May?

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Speaker 3: I mean, first and foremost, I'm not a big Drake

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00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: May believer, Okay, but that also like I like he

1305
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: was whatever in college.

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00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 4: I wasn't.

1307
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't like you've got to get this, And then

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01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't super impressed.

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Speaker 4: His rookie year.

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Speaker 3: But also like like you said, there's no weapons, he

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01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: didn't have a lot to work with just in terms

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Speaker 3: of like protection and weapons and everything. So I don't

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01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: know that he even got a fair chance to show

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Speaker 3: anything good or bad. But yeah, I mean, Diggs is

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: a start, I guess. I don't think he's gonna go

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01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 3: out there and catch a hundred passes and you know,

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01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: get sixteen hundred yards or anything like that, but it's

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Speaker 3: at least like if they can get a little bit

1319
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Speaker 3: of protection for Drake, Like I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: is he a number one? I know by default he is,

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Speaker 3: but at.

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Speaker 2: This point he's the number one, and it's more like

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Speaker 2: he's the number one because that's the only option there

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Speaker 2: right right, And when you consider viable NFL leven NFL

1325
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: talent level wide receivers, I think a lot of those guys,

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: you know, probably could be doing something else in a

1327
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Speaker 2: few years, not necessarily playing in the league this though.

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Speaker 4: The interest I have here though, is if the it.

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter If I'm the Patriots, That's why I'd be

1330
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Speaker 2: going after Yes, I'd be trying to get to Travis Hunter.

1331
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Speaker 2: And I wonder if the Giants are like because they

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Speaker 2: signed the quarterbacks like Michee was talking about, they're not

1333
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: probably going to draft the quarterback in round one. I

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01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: wonder how much it's worth to them to get another weapon,

1335
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 2: right They signed to cornerbacks this offseason, drafted neighbors last year.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to add another receiver on the other

1337
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: side of that? Do you want to add a cornerback

1338
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: to that room however you view Travis Hunter? Or do

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01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: you try to move out of that spot, get more

1340
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: picks and have somebody else Because I think if you're

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01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: New England you're devoid of offensive talent like that.

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Speaker 3: That's that's your option, right if you believe in Drake May,

1343
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: you have to go get that.

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Speaker 2: You better believe in Drake May if you took that,

1345
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: if Mike Abel, if you take that job, you don't,

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01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: then I'll tell you, well for sure, Yeah, I mean,

1347
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 2: we definitely think it's going quarterback quarterback one too, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I actually think I actually am not sure.

1349
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Speaker 2: What Cleveland's gonna do with the second overall pick, and

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Speaker 2: that's got to be on the move. It's either we'll

1351
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: talk about it at the top of the next hour,

1352
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: talk about at ten o'clock.

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Speaker 4: How that pick moves.

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Speaker 2: But I don't I say like this, if Shador Sanders

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Speaker 2: is not drafted in the top three picks, I don't

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Speaker 2: think you'll be drafted in the top fifteen picks.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think that's probably right. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think if you're New England, it only benefits you

1359
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 3: to try to move up to at least three. Maybe

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01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 3: you try to move up to two, just to make

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Speaker 3: sure if cam Ward goes one, Hey, we need to

1362
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 3: go get this guy, because I think, you know it,

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01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: really it falls on it falls on New York how

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Speaker 3: they feel about them.

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Speaker 2: But if you're telling me, I got Digs, and I

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01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: got Travis Hunter playing now the offensive snap, and you

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01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: got Hunter Henry right now now, I'm interested. Now I'm

1368
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: interested this basketball game. Alabama not shooting quite the clip

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01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: they had been prior. But Steve the Seger will update

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Speaker 2: you on that and everything else going on in the

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Speaker 2: world of sports. Steve, you're up.

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Speaker 8: They are down double digits to Duke. By the way,

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Speaker 8: I love the stat that Ben Simmons has actually played

1374
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 8: more NBA games the last couple of years than Joel

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Speaker 8: and believe and beat at the foul line. Also hard

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 8: to believe a seven footer at eighty three percent on

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Speaker 8: free throws for his career. Ben Simmons theoretically a guard

1378
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 8: under sixty percent on free throws for his career, although

1379
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 8: as a Clipper he is six of seven for the stripe.

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Speaker 8: That's by far the best free throw shooting we've ever

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Speaker 8: seen from the band. So stay tuned as far as

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Speaker 8: the Clippers. By the way, Kawhi Leonard will not play

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Speaker 8: Sunday due to knee injury management. The Pistons Caid Cunningham

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Speaker 8: with the sore cafe doubtful for Sunday. He could sit

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Speaker 8: out a fourth straight game. Zion Williamson of New Orleans,

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01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 8: with a bruise back, is out for Sunday, missing a

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Speaker 8: fifth straight game. John Moran had missed six games with

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Speaker 8: a hamstring injury. His coach got fired yesterday and Moran

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Speaker 8: is playing tonight, but the Lakers are leading, holding on

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01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 8: eighty four to eighty at Memphis mid third quarter. John

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Speaker 8: Morant so far five of fifteen, shooting thirteen points eight assists.

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Speaker 8: Lakers have eighteen points each from Lebron James and Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 8: Luka Doncic with seventeen points. Currently, Oklahoma City's winning again

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01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 8: in the third quarter seventy one fifty five the lead

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Speaker 8: over the Indiana Pacers, and OKC win would put their

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Speaker 8: record at sixty two and twelve. Just final Brooklyn wins

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Speaker 8: at Washington one fifteen to one twelve. Now to the

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Speaker 8: college shops, I mention the double digit lead for Duke.

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Speaker 8: It's thirty five twenty two over Alabama under seven minutes

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Speaker 8: to go first half in New Jersey of the East

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Speaker 8: Region final. The final four is next weekend in San Antonio.

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01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 8: We know Florida will be there. More on that in

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 8: the moment. Duke so far in the first half shooting

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Speaker 8: sixty one percent.

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Speaker 2: From the floor.

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Speaker 8: Meanwhile, Tide star Mark Sears ozo of three shooting, he

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Speaker 8: is scoreless with three to tw turnovers. Florida a one seed,

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Speaker 8: comes out of the West Region, winning that regional final

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Speaker 8: in San Francisco with a Lake comeback of sixteen to

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Speaker 8: run beating Texas Tech eighty four seventy nine. So this team,

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Speaker 8: the Gators will be facing either Auburn or Michigan State

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Speaker 8: next weekend in a national semifinal. All American Walter Clayton

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Speaker 8: with thirty points in the women's sweet sixteen Texas and

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Speaker 8: TCU with wins Yukon as well. Connecticut beat Oklahoma eighty

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Speaker 8: two to fifty nine, Page Beckers forty points. Usc is

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Speaker 8: playing without injured superstar Juju Watkins, and they're actually winning

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01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,919
Speaker 8: now end of three forty eight to forty five over

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Speaker 8: Kansas State, each team shooting around forty percent from the floor.

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Speaker 8: Among the eleven NHL games. Saint Louis, winners of nine straight,

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Speaker 8: got a two to one victory at Colorado to Major

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Speaker 8: League Baseball in his home debut, Roki Sasaki on the

1422
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Speaker 8: mound at Dodger Stadium. He was down two to nothing quickly.

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Speaker 8: Freddie Freeman has homered. It is Detroit two to one

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Speaker 8: over LA in the bottom of the first inning, and

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Speaker 8: on Fox TV for part of the country, Houston holding

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Speaker 8: on against the Mets two to one over New York

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Speaker 8: bottom of the eighth inning. Miami in twelve beat Pittsburgh

1428
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 8: five to four. Cleveland Guardians star third baseman Jose Ramirez

1429
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 8: is day to day with the spraying risk. Cleveland lost

1430
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 8: four to three at Kansas City. The Angels were one

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Speaker 8: nothing winners at the White Sox today. The save to

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Speaker 8: ken Lee Jansen and the Yankees got three home runs

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Speaker 8: from Aaron Judge and beat up Milwaukee twenty to nine.

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01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 8: The Yankees as a team hit nine out of the park,

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Speaker 8: including four homers in the first Back to.

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Speaker 2: You, thanks Steve Martin Wise Zach Harper comings you live

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Speaker 2: from the tierraq dot com studios. Make sure to check

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01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,560
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01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,880
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01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,360
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1444
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: on YouTube. So the NBA, Zach, seems to take more

1445
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: criticism than any league out there, And we kind of

1446
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: talked about this prior.

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: It's almost by default, right.

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01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: We care enough about the NBA to watch it, but

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01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: also to critique it. Adam Silver spoke on this topic

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01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago. I forget exactly when it was,

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01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: but this is what the Commissioner of the NBA had

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01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: to say.

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01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 9: We're a particular sport in which that kind of debate

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01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 9: seems to be part of the DNA of this league.

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01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 9: And I'm jealous sometimes it seems that in other sports

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01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 9: that I'm a fan of, and when I watch the coverage,

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01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 9: particularly around the games, it seems to be more celebratory

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01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 9: often than it is in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: So what was your take on that? What's your initial

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01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: read there?

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Speaker 3: I agree with him, it is criticized more than any

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: other league. I mean, baseball is not in the spotlight.

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01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 4: Anymore, right, in the same way.

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they've done a lot to kind of change

1465
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 3: the product in a way that I think I think

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: is mostly good, but they're just not It's not the

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 3: national pastime it used to be hockey. It is what

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: it is like. You either love it or you don't

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01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: pay attention to it in at least the United States, right,

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Speaker 3: So I don't think that's really enough in the spotlight.

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Speaker 3: The NFL doesn't really seem to care when they get

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Speaker 3: criticized because they can always just say, we've got the

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01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 3: most money in the highest ratings, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: And that's what I don't understand about the NBA. Like, obviously,

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01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: I grew up loving both of these sports, basketball and

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01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 2: football and enjoying all of that, and probably honestly as

1477
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: a kid, enjoying the NBA more than the NFL. Yeah,

1478
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: and that's switched now. But I think a lot of

1479
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: the reason why is in the last ten years, it

1480
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: seems that the cart leads the horse a lot in

1481
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: the NBA constantly where there are complaints and then responses

1482
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: to those complaints, whereas the NFL, for good or for bad,

1483
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 2: you don't like what they're doing, they don't care.

1484
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 4: They just keep it pushing. They will keep it pushing.

1485
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: And so like to me Adam Silver this year talking about,

1486
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 2: oh the NBA too many threes, I would have never

1487
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 2: even given it in an the air. We don't shoot

1488
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: too many threes. Watch our product, it's amazing. Some of

1489
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: our best player I would be like, look at our MVP,

1490
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 2: Shake Gildish, Alexander, he look at any threes he shoes.

1491
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 2: Look at our other side, Yoki's Giannis. The best players

1492
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: in the league don't shoot threes. Now what say something else? Oh,

1493
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,440
Speaker 2: the ratings are down. Guess what champions an election? Everybody's

1494
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: ratings are down, you know, what I'm saying, And it's

1495
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: like the the idea that we're changing quarter sizes, are

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01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 2: adding a four point.

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Speaker 4: Shot, So it all went away. If when Luca got

1498
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 4: traded to the Lake exactly, it all went away.

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Speaker 2: You know why because people like, we're talking about the

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Speaker 2: actual what was happening on Tuesday night and Thursday night

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 2: and Sunday afternoon.

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 4: When the games were being played exactly.

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 3: Like that's the thing. Is the NBA for bet or

1504
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 3: well for worse now they embrace social media too much.

1505
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 3: It was good as a marketing tool forever and then

1506
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 3: they but they kept caring about what was being said

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Speaker 3: on social media. It's like criticism, and then that leaked

1508
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 3: into how coverage happened with league partners and what's on

1509
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 3: ESPN and what's on TNT and you know, what's being

1510
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 3: said on pregame shows and halftime shows and all this stuff.

1511
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 3: Like they focus so much on that where I'm with you, like, hey,

1512
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 3: the league shooting too many threes? Oh yeah, we have

1513
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: Steph Curry. That's what I would have said. One of

1514
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 3: the biggest stars in the world, Steph Curry. You think

1515
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 3: he shoots too many threes? Hey, the ratings are down

1516
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we just signed that seventy two billion dollar deal.

1517
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 3: Do you feel like ratings are down? Do we think

1518
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 3: we care? Like I just there's a point where you

1519
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: just have to make it about and yet, and yet

1520
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 3: we seem to thrive, like, yes, these things happen, but

1521
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 3: we don't care. The league continues to move forward. And

1522
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 3: the thing that drives me crazy the most about this

1523
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 3: is all these extraneous conversations could just be replaced with,

1524
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 3: like you said, Luca gets traded, Hey, let's watch some basketball.

1525
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 3: See what happens.

1526
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 4: Right, Could we just talk about basketball. I don't care

1527
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 4: that there's a lot of threes.

1528
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: We see this in political discourse all the time. The

1529
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 2: conversation changes all of a sudden. You're talking about two

1530
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: plus two equals four, and now it's two plus two

1531
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: equals oranges, right, Like it's like Terrence Howard.

1532
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying.

1533
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: If I was Adam Silver, I would be saying, you're

1534
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: telling me, oh, too many threes, ratings, Yeah, billion dollar deal, oranges,

1535
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 2: you deal with it.

1536
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I don't care what your

1537
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 4: math is telling me. I got oranges. Like that's what

1538
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 4: I would be saying, look at we have some of

1539
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 4: the we are one of.

1540
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: Our best players like we have Oh you have to

1541
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: we have too many foreign born players.

1542
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1543
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 2: Did you watch the NBA Finals in which aau products

1544
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: Jason's headiman Jayalen Brown ran through that Eastern Europe being

1545
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 2: Luka Doncic exactly?

1546
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 4: Like like that's what like that's and.

1547
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't understand And you were talking about it off

1548
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: there a little bit. How David Stern wouldn't be like,

1549
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: would be framing this narrative in a different way. And

1550
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: that's the way the NFL they frame their own narrative.

1551
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: The NBA allows their narrative to be framed for themselves.

1552
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 3: David Stern had a lot of had a lot of problems, right,

1553
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 3: like there were issues with certain things, and there's certain

1554
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: things as society has evolved or devolved, however you want

1555
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 3: to say that is it's adjusted like maybe wouldn't fly today.

1556
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 4: Sure.

1557
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 3: One of my favorite stories is as they are letting

1558
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 3: cameras into locker rooms for pregame stuff and everything, there

1559
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 3: is a meeting between David Stern and the coaches and

1560
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: Scott Skyle says, I don't want cameras in my locker room.

1561
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 3: That's a sacred area that is private. We're not doing that.

1562
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: And David Stern says, I understand, on the one hand,

1563
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 3: we have your concerns. On the other hand, we have

1564
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 3: all this bleeping money from our broadcast partners. I think

1565
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 3: we'll go with the money, right, because that's what it is.

1566
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: The business is thriving. We're good because that's what the

1567
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 3: NFL does. There are times that football sucks, there are

1568
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 3: times of product is terrible.

1569
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 4: They don't care.

1570
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 6: You want to know what the perfect microcosm is because

1571
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 6: this is what you guys saying. This makes me think

1572
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 6: that Pro Bowls, the Pro Bowls versus All Star games

1573
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 6: every year, Like nobody watches the Pro Bowl in the

1574
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 6: same way that nobody likes the All Star Game anymore.

1575
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 6: But the thing is, people have all this stuff to

1576
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 6: say about the All Star Game. We have stuff to

1577
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 6: say about the Pro Bowl games too, about how bad

1578
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 6: it is now. But the NFL doesn't care, that's the thing.

1579
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 6: But the NBA. Meanwhile, I was trying to add, you know,

1580
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 6: tournament style, maybe if we do a draft format and

1581
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 6: all this, it's like, just follow the NFL. They don't care.

1582
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 6: And it's working for them.

1583
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: By the way, they got rid of that already the

1584
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 3: tournament because you know why, because NBC said, we don't

1585
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 3: want that, right and we.

1586
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 4: Got the also game. We don't want that. Yeah, don't

1587
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 4: give us to the US versus the International. We don't

1588
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 4: want that.

1589
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: It was it was NBA All Star And that's one

1590
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: thing I used to DVR, Like I remember recording on

1591
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: a VHS tape and waking up to see Vince car

1592
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: To do the It's Over move in.

1593
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 4: The contest as a kid. Now I couldn't care. You

1594
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 4: know what.

1595
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: They lost me when they started changing the color out

1596
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: of court. I can't even see this. What is this

1597
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 2: Neon Green balk to you by stars.

1598
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 6: In season tournament?

1599
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: You blame you blame you blame AAU, and you blame

1600
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 3: NBA two K because that they're just trying to get

1601
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: kids to watch it, like, oh, well, they're weird colors

1602
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 3: on the court and those things, Like, I guess we

1603
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 3: gotta do that for kids.

1604
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 4: You know what.

1605
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: Once I had to record a mixtape to play my

1606
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: player on two K, I was like, I'm done with

1607
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: this too. Coming up next, we'll play a game of

1608
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: who you got Producer you had.

1609
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 4: That little tease. Who think, what's the category here?

1610
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 6: Well, we're on NBA again. I figured with Zach back,

1611
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 6: might as well stick to the basketball for the NBA.

1612
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 6: Doesn't get it too quick, because you know.

1613
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 4: Who knows you.

1614
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see coming up next, We'll do that,

1615
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 2: Martin White, Zach Harper, Fox Sports Radio.

1616
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 4: Coming to you a lot at the tiereck dot Com Studios.

1617
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 4: I'm Martin Wise, join here with Zach Harper, and it's

1618
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 4: time for a game of who you got?

1619
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 6: Okay, who you got? We're back, So just a quick

1620
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 6: refresher here for the listeners and for Zach as well. Uh,

1621
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 6: the way this game goes is, I'm thinking of a player,

1622
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 6: any player in NBA history is fair game, and I

1623
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 6: have a series of clues here. Each clue is supposed

1624
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 6: to make it a little bit easier. And as you

1625
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 6: guys come up with guesses, just just shout him out

1626
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 6: to me and I'll let you know if you get

1627
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 6: it right or wrong. Pop Eye Jones nor wrong. Charles

1628
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 6: Shackelford No, no, so just just shooting blankly, No so,

1629
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 6: Rod Strickland, Nope. First clue here. This guy was a

1630
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 6: first round draft pick. Taken in the top fifteen picks.

1631
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: Okay, first round, top fifteen, Brandon Jennings Nope. Deon Waiters Nope.

1632
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: One of my all time favorite players to watch. I

1633
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 2: never he never played on the team.

1634
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 4: I oh, there you go.

1635
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's played in the NBA for eleven seasons, and

1636
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 6: I won't tell you if he's still active or not.

1637
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, eleven years in the NBA, his first round, sixteen,

1638
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: sixteenth pick.

1639
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 4: Eleven years in the league. Like that, I'm gonna say

1640
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 4: a Mecca Okaper, No, I can't imagine he's in the league.

1641
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 4: Kemba Walker Nope, watching this March Magiest Tournament.

1642
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 6: Next clue. He was the eleventh overall pick and he

1643
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,919
Speaker 6: was drafted by the Portland Trail Blazers.

1644
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 4: Brandon Roy Nope, No he was.

1645
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 3: He was like sixth, eleventh to the Blazers. Played eleven years.

1646
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,919
Speaker 3: He was a top fifteen pick. Oh yeah, he was eleventh.

1647
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 4: Oh ye, lady, go Martin oh Man the clue.

1648
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, because everything everyone I'm thinking of is top ten

1649
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 3: right now?

1650
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 4: All right?

1651
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 6: He remains the all time steals leader for a team

1652
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 6: that did not draft him.

1653
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 2: Steals leader for a team that did not draft him,

1654
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: So I feel like he's gotta be either a guard

1655
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: or a wing because that's he's going to be having

1656
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 2: the opportunity needed to steal the ball away. This feels

1657
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 2: like a guy got traded immediately as he got drafted.

1658
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: Ian loves doing that. Something drafted by this team, like

1659
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 2: he was actually drafted by the show the Hornets and

1660
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: then oh that Kobe Bryant.

1661
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 6: Nope, Alvin Robertson No, okay, two not bad guesses though

1662
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 6: the next one. He's made two All Star Games throughout

1663
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 6: his career and made All NBA Second Team once.

1664
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 4: So this guy's a real uh real killer.

1665
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 6: I see, never made first team, but he made All

1666
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 6: NBA second team.

1667
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 4: Got a lot of steals. Drafts eleventh to Portland. That's

1668
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 4: the part that's tripping me up. I have no idea

1669
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 4: where Gary Payton was drafted, but was he Gary Payton?

1670
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 3: Gary Payton's drafted second to the Sonics?

1671
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1672
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,959
Speaker 3: Uh two All Star games?

1673
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 4: Oh Gary Payton made?

1674
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely more all the be a second team. Latrell

1675
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 3: Spree will no.

1676
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,839
Speaker 6: No, He's in the top fifteen all time for career

1677
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 6: triple doubles. The numbers forty.

1678
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 4: Three he's had his forty three career triple doubles. He

1679
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 4: had a ton of steals. Drafted by the Trailblazers, just

1680
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 4: a by the Trailblazers. That's the part that tripped me

1681
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 4: up forty three triple doubles.

1682
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: Rondo was drafted by the Celtics, right yeah, oh no,

1683
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: but but he was drafted like twenty seven.

1684
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 6: Okay, I can give you the year he was drafted

1685
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 6: the year. The year was nineteen eighty two, and he

1686
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 6: was drafted out of Arizona State, Arizona State eight two.

1687
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 4: This is gonna drive me insane.

1688
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 6: This was this next clue might help, So yeah, I'm

1689
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 6: gonna hold off this.

1690
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 4: Oh my god, No, I'll give me the next one,

1691
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 4: all right.

1692
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 6: He goes by a nickname, which came from his little

1693
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 6: brother's ability to pronounce his real name.

1694
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 2: As a kid goes by a nickname his little brother

1695
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 2: couldn't pronounce his actual name.

1696
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 4: It's a nickname, but.

1697
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 2: It feels like a nickname has got to be like

1698
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 2: a juju or something similar to that, because why, you know,

1699
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 2: because he couldn't pronounce Julian.

1700
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 6: Well, I'll give you what his real first name was,

1701
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 6: because it's not what he goes by his real first

1702
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 6: name is Lafayette Fat Lever.

1703
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 4: That is correct, there is.

1704
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 6: I had one clue left, which is the all time

1705
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 6: steals leader for the Nuggets.

1706
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 3: Now that's so frustrating. That's spent a few years with

1707
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 3: the Blazers.

1708
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: I tell you what, you could have gone off a

1709
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: whole bunch of I wouldn't have got that unless you

1710
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 2: said his first his nickname.

1711
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 6: Is what his name carries a lot of weight.

1712
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know he wants a triple double machine.

1713
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 4: It was back in the day.

1714
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: That's where I remembered his name coming up is from

1715
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,480
Speaker 2: when ru Westbrook was running through those triple double runs.

1716
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 6: However, in the old two K, like all time teams,

1717
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 6: he was always the point guard for the.

1718
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: Next Absolutely, there you go, Fat leave point guard for

1719
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 2: the Douglas.

1720
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 4: What do you think about the Nuggets?

1721
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, we'll do that in just a

1722
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,479
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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins to the Browns makes way too much sense.

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Speaker 2: the best college sports recap show out there, So I'll

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01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: be all over this college basketball. We're gonna take a

1737
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: look at the NFL right now though, because you know, Zach,

1738
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 2: when else Garrett was prior to being signed. I want

1739
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: to win super Bowls. I will never come back to Cleveland.

1740
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 2: Get me out of here, Get me out of here.

1741
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 2: Nothing could keep me here.

1742
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 4: Well, something could.

1743
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: And that was all that guaranteed money, Oh yeah, that

1744
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 2: he ended up signing for. But there was a a

1745
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: thing that Andrew Siciliano did with him.

1746
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 4: This was tweeted out from the official Brown's account.

1747
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: Andrew Siciliano asked him about the plans that quarterback after

1748
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 2: signing this deal, because that was obviously in Cleveland. The

1749
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: quarterback situation is a quandary at best. Right it's it's

1750
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 2: very very ft up.

1751
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 3: Right, quandary is a nice way of putting that. Yeah, trying,

1752
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 3: It's not pretty.

1753
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 2: So you think generally quarterback was an important position in sports.

1754
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: Maybe Myles Garrett want to go somewhere with a really

1755
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 2: good quarterback. So why'd you come back to Cleveland? Essentially

1756
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 2: what Siciliano asked him. This is the whole exchange in

1757
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 2: all serious Do you know who the quarterback is going

1758
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 2: to be? I mean, do you have an idea?

1759
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 4: After conversations?

1760
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: I do have an idea.

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01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 4: Do you like the idea?

1762
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: I like it enough to be here smiling in front

1763
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: of you because I think we have a good chance

1764
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: of that happening and making the most out of it.

1765
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 4: Can you tell us who it is? Miles? You know

1766
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 4: I can't do that now.

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01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 2: He obviously can't tell us who it is, in part

1768
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: because we don't know.

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01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 4: Who it is. You know what I'm saying? Like, there

1770
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 4: are options.

1771
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 2: If cam Wore doesn't get picked number one, then I

1772
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: think the whole board opens back up.

1773
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 4: Right, But.

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01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 2: If you so, I'm thinking about this, right, does this

1775
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 2: happen a couple of days after he signed his contract extension?

1776
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 4: Right for them to have a solid plan.

1777
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: They don't have the number one overall pick, so they

1778
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 2: do not have their pick up the litter right in

1779
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 2: terms of anybody from his class, they have the two pick.

1780
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: They haven't been in or really gone after the Russell

1781
01:22:55,320 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 2: will sends the Aaron Rodgers is those guys right. But

1782
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 2: for Miles Garrett, who was smiling in this moment, it

1783
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I'd be smiling to if they

1784
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 2: made me the highest paid non quarterback in football. But

1785
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 2: ask this question particularly, he smiled and as you know,

1786
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 2: at first you're thinking, you know, my first read on

1787
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: it was okay, they're going to get your door, right,

1788
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: that's what he's happy about. What kind of thought about

1789
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 2: it again and said, if it's about either winning or money, right,

1790
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: because I think that's what it came down for Miles Garrett.

1791
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 2: He took the money. It's now gotta be about how

1792
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 2: good individually can I be?

1793
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 4: Sure? Right?

1794
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 2: And because in the NFL, it's not the NBA where

1795
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 2: if you're getting numbers on a bad team, like they

1796
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: won't be like defensive end with twenty five sacks on

1797
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 2: our twenty sacks on a team that has three wins,

1798
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: He's gonna get consideration he's gonna be talked about it.

1799
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 4: They're gonna put that up there regardless.

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Speaker 2: So I thought, Zach, what if I'm Cleveland and I

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Speaker 2: want Miles Garrett to stay?

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01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 4: Sit him down.

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01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 2: I say, Miles, look, we're gonna take the best pass

1804
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: rusher in this draft with the second overall pick. Guess

1805
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 2: what those double teams you see now gone? Well, you know,

1806
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: cutting half? You know what I'm saying, cutting half because

1807
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 2: that kid over there is gonna be a problem.

1808
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 3: Or that kids could get all your sacks, right, I.

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01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 4: Would leave that part out of the negotiations, all right.

1810
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 4: I'd be like, we're gonna draft Carter.

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01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll have one on one at least ten snaps

1812
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,959
Speaker 2: of game in which you will have three sacks, right.

1813
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 4: Or tackles for loss.

1814
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 2: Then we're gonna trade for Kirk Cousins with our second

1815
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,879
Speaker 2: or third round pick because Kirk.

1816
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 4: Cousins has a no trade clause, right, which is the

1817
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 4: craziest thing of good Lord. I would never ever, he's

1818
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 4: gonna have the best agent, the best.

1819
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 2: But you know, so he can veto any trade that

1820
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 2: you know essentially puts them in this boties in.

1821
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 4: Now, if you.

1822
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 2: Go to Cleveland, if kirk Cousins is traded to Cleveland.

1823
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 2: Atlanta's gonna eat the money. So it's still a cheap on, right,

1824
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 2: And you can sell that better to me to a

1825
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: player of Miles Garrett Stature. Hey, we're gonna be able

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01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: to at least try to compete for this division. Then

1827
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback who may or may not even be

1828
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 2: good Kirk Cousins, we know what he is, for good

1829
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 2: or for bad.

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01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,879
Speaker 4: That to me is something I think you can sell

1831
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 4: along with on that paper.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, look, it's not It's not like kirk

1833
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 3: Cousins was getting out and moving before, right, right, But

1834
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 3: he was bad last year. He was he was bad

1835
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 3: last year. Now he was coming off in Achilles, and

1836
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 3: I think you expect that to be a frustrating process.

1837
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 3: And even in the pocket, Like he still has to

1838
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 3: move in the pocket, right, he still has to shift,

1839
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 3: he still has to get away from the pressure. Is

1840
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: it collapses and everything. So it's not about getting out

1841
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 3: and running. He's just got to be you know, not mobile,

1842
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 3: but nimble, right, right. Do we think that that's like

1843
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 3: he can get back to enough of that to still

1844
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 3: put up numbers.

1845
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 4: I think that he I mean you have.

1846
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 3: I've also never thought he was good.

1847
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 2: I am with you. You had one playoff win in

1848
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: his career. So I'm not saying that he is changing

1849
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: the fortunes of every team.

1850
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 3: He's just not Deshaun Watson exactly.

1851
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 2: But when we're looking at the options of the last

1852
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 2: few years, Joe Flacco, Dorian Thompson, Robinson, PJ.

1853
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 4: Walker, Deshaun Watson, Marten, this is.

1854
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 3: The most Cleveland Browns crap ever. Is like, well, it's

1855
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, but it's not Deshaun Watson. This is I mean,

1856
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 3: this could not be more Cleveland Browns.

1857
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: And so I think, but I if I'm Miles Garrett

1858
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: along again, this all of this comes, all of this

1859
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 2: medicine comes with this very big sugar pill of that contract,

1860
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: right yea, So the spoonful of sugar is more like

1861
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 2: a truck load of sugar is making this medicine go down.

1862
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 4: But I could see it.

1863
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 2: I could see that selling point We're gonna have. We Look,

1864
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 2: we are in a division vision with three cyborgs at quarterback, right,

1865
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We talk about we got

1866
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: our tool too, and then whoever the Steelers figure out

1867
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 2: whatever they do, but to insistently Pittsburgh has been really

1868
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 2: really good better than us.

1869
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 4: Over the last ten years.

1870
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: Right, they consistently are in the playoffs. Now we'll worry

1871
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: about what they do in the dance later. But you

1872
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 2: got to make you had to have the ticket to

1873
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 2: even go, Brow Burrow and Lamar So Miles Garrett Dual

1874
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 2: Carter Hey, that maybe will win some of these games

1875
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: twenty one to seventeen, sure, as opposed to what Cincinnati

1876
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: is going to try to do, which is won all

1877
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 2: these games forty four to forty one.

1878
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 4: Right, So that's crazy. It look, it's not.

1879
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 3: It's not a good strategy, but for what Cleveland usually

1880
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 3: has to deal with, it's progress question mark.

1881
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: Maybe I think, yeah, I think at least here, I

1882
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: think though the gap between horrendous quarterback play in bad

1883
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 2: quarterback play, yeah, is the biggest gap in sports. Yes,

1884
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 2: I'd like and I think like the gap between like

1885
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 2: mid quarterback play and really good quarterback plays is really

1886
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 2: smaller than that.

1887
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: You know, do you think because the league has changed

1888
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 3: enough over the last ten to twenty years, right, do

1889
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 3: you think competent quarterback play is enough anymore?

1890
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 4: Like?

1891
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 3: I because I would qualify a Granted I'm a little

1892
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 3: biased here because I am a forty nine Ers fan,

1893
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: but like, I think Brock Purty is more than competent

1894
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 3: quarterback play. I don't think he's elite. I think he's

1895
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 3: played great compared to what you expect. But I don't

1896
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 3: look at him as like competent. I look at him

1897
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 3: as pretty good, Okay, right, I think back in the day,

1898
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 3: you could have a Brad Johnson and a Trendill for whatever,

1899
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 3: with an elite team around him, or in today's salary

1900
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 3: cap situation, you hope that you have a solid young

1901
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 3: quarterback before they get paid, and you put the team

1902
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 3: around them like Jared Goff with the Rams and everything,

1903
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 3: right like, and then you get to that point and

1904
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 3: then hopefully you win a Super Bowl or you get

1905
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 3: there or whatever. So I wonder, though, if competent is

1906
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 3: and not even just for the Browns in general, right,

1907
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 3: like I'm talking about just the league, is that enough? Like,

1908
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 3: as a veteran like, can can someone like that? Can

1909
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: a situation like that be a good sell anymore?

1910
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: So? I remember when the Colts signed Philip Rivers. Yeah,

1911
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 2: I was talking to a guy who worked there at

1912
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 2: the time, like, and I was explain this to me, right,

1913
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 2: make this make sense? Because Philip rivers is was done

1914
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 2: five years ago. Why are you signing Philip Rivers now?

1915
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: And because I'm looking strictly at ability, right. And the

1916
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 2: thing that he told me I'll always remember is you

1917
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 2: don't see the plays that get called that phil saves

1918
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 2: us from right audible into a run Audi, you know

1919
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Audible into a short pass that of

1920
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: this play because he sees this in the defense and

1921
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 2: he says, this is what's gotta happen. That's so I

1922
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 2: think that when like, but to me, that also plays

1923
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 2: into competency, you know what I'm saying. So it's like

1924
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 2: when I'm looking at a Kirk Cousins, I think that

1925
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 2: he plays a competent level because he will see, hey.

1926
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 3: At minimum at the line, Hey we're going to change this,

1927
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 3: and that's going to save you fifteen times a game

1928
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 3: what would have been a disaster. Yeah, I'm not that's

1929
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 3: a great run.

1930
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Speaker 2: I'm not running this bootleg because they got nine in

1931
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 2: the box, right, I'm doing something.

1932
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 4: That's on Kirk Cousins. I'm not running bootlegs.

1933
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this because they got fence there's three

1934
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: deep safeties.

1935
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Speaker 4: We got to call something else here. Right, That's a

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Speaker 4: great point.

1937
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Speaker 2: And I don't think I think we undervalue the quarterbacks

1938
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 2: ability to do that. And I think when you have

1939
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 2: a guy who's been playing so long, they get you

1940
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: in the right spots. And if you're a team like

1941
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: Cleveland who just a few just a short season ago, Right,

1942
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 2: this year was terrible, but two years ago, Joe f

1943
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 2: I was in Vegas watching Joe Flacco lead them in

1944
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 2: a playoff game.

1945
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 4: Now, you didn't lead them very far, but he was there.

1946
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 2: They were in the postseason with a guy who had

1947
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 2: been driving carpool earlier that year.

1948
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,440
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. Yeah, So, like I think competency.

1949
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: Now, if you are a team like you know that's

1950
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: devoid of talent, then like if you're the Giants, for example,

1951
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 2: I don't think competent quarterback play can get you to

1952
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 2: the wild card.

1953
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 4: I think, but like, if you're Cleveland, got a really good.

1954
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 2: Defense, you know, say has had a really good defense consistently,

1955
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 2: they were losing games like twenty to ten last year.

1956
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 4: Like, if you can hold a team under twenty points

1957
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 4: in the NFL, we got some weapons, right, like they got. Yeah.

1958
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think they probably have to look at

1959
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 2: a replacement running back with the Chubbs knee and all that.

1960
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 3: But it's not a team. The roster is solid. Yeah,

1961
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 3: they're not devoid of talent.

1962
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, roster is solid, man, And if you have competency

1963
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,719
Speaker 2: at that position, I think it can elevate to where

1964
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 2: you can, like I think Pittsburgh has gotten off for

1965
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: ten years with having solid rosters.

1966
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, just good coach. Yeah.

1967
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 2: Now, I think where you come into like is competency enough.

1968
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 2: It's when you want to make the next step right,

1969
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 2: like when you we in the forty nine Ers to

1970
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 2: me are the number one example because if you those

1971
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 2: plays come down to Jimmy Garoppolo missing Emmanuel Sanders in

1972
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 2: the end zone by a step and a half and

1973
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 2: that changes the future of the franchise. It comes down

1974
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 2: to brock Perty not being able to step around Chris

1975
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:40,839
Speaker 2: Jones on that last where ayuquals wide opening the end zone.

1976
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 2: That's the type of thing that like, that's where it

1977
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 2: helps to have that Cydeboard Glamarrow, Josh Allen who then

1978
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 2: can take you to that. So that's why I think

1979
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 2: it's like, if you're just looking to be respected, yeah

1980
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 2: you can. You can get into the like you can

1981
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: win a super Bowl that way, you can really win

1982
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 2: a super Bowl with that cyborg, right, But like yeah,

1983
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 2: and also we're talking about the Browns. Just you gotta

1984
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 2: just anything that gets you away from Deshaun Watson, it

1985
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 2: gets you more towards competency at that position. And to

1986
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 2: the point, eating the dead money for the Shawn now

1987
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1988
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 4: Like eighty one. It's just crazy. It's eighty one, eighty

1989
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 4: one million dollars.

1990
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 2: But you know, you know what though, Denver Broncos just

1991
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 2: last year wild Card team eighty five million dollars to

1992
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: tell Russ thanks for the memories. Right, So it's like

1993
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 2: it can be done in the NFL with good coaching.

1994
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 4: And the right roster. And you know, you make some terrible.

1995
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 2: Mistakes and Deshaun Watson a mistake, Russell Wilson contract a mistake,

1996
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: you can pivot if you have the right foundation, which

1997
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 2: is why I think even more so than anything, Well,

1998
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 2: I was trying to cook this up with Ian.

1999
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 4: A producer like three or four weeks ago.

2000
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 2: About these they can't afford to take a rookie. They

2001
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 2: have to get they have to have somebody in there

2002
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 2: with some and I think the same same we deal

2003
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 2: with the giants, these guys whose hot seats may or

2004
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:06,560
Speaker 2: may not be hot, especially when you have signed quarterbacks

2005
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 2: like Deshaun or Daniel Jones who felt like more of

2006
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 2: an owner thing than GM thing. Somebody's gonna get fired

2007
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: here unless you turn this thing around. The best way

2008
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 2: to turn it around. Again, we're talking about two options

2009
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: that suck. But the option that sucked less, yeh is

2010
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 2: the vet. Yes, yeah, because otherwise it's just but just

2011
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, just a little bit of advice. I know

2012
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 2: you spend a lot of money on this franchise. If

2013
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 2: you're the owner, get out of the way, let the

2014
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 2: let the front office people do their jobs. I agree wholeheartedly,

2015
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 2: and we'll go take your except for Jerry Jones.

2016
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 3: That's hilarious every time Jerry.

2017
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 2: I mean, people talk about Jerry bad like he's a

2018
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 2: gift that keeps on giving. All right, coming up next though,

2019
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 2: talking about teams and owners in front offices. Everybody should

2020
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,679
Speaker 2: be competing to the n right right right.

2021
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 4: We'll break that down next. Martin White, Zach Harper, Fox Sports.

2022
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 2: Radio, Fox Sports were Martin Weiss is Zach Harper come

2023
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 2: into your live from the tire iraq dot com studios.

2024
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: You can stream this show and all of our Fox

2025
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 2: Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven and the

2026
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 2: new and improved iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio

2027
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 2: in the app to stream us live. And one of

2028
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 2: the newest features in the app, you can select Fox

2029
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 2: Sports Radio as one of your presets, just like on

2030
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 2: a radio dial.

2031
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 4: So be sure to pre set Fox.

2032
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app and it'll always pop

2033
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 2: up at the top of your screen. Or even better yet,

2034
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 2: never change the channel. It'll pop up as soon as

2035
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 2: you open up the iHeartRadio app every single time. So

2036
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 2: Adam Silver was talking to the media on Thursday, touched

2037
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:43,759
Speaker 2: a bunch of different topics. One of them was tanking,

2038
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 2: said teams fighting for the bottom as they search for

2039
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 2: better draft ottery lot lottery odds. As we look at

2040
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 2: the presumptive number one overall Pick and his team Duke

2041
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: and Cooper flag as there you.

2042
01:35:56,120 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 4: Go, conking up with playing six to two right there, I.

2043
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 2: Mean, as they lead Alabama fifty four to forty six

2044
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 2: with just about fifteen minutes left in the first app

2045
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: but Cup, I'm Cooper. Flag will likely be the number

2046
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: one overall pick in this draft. And as a result,

2047
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 2: we've at least heard of teams m trying to lower

2048
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 2: for Flag. I'm trying to think of a oh uh,

2049
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 2: fail for flag, you know, crush it for Cooper, fail

2050
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 2: for flag, and anyway you get the general just general point.

2051
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 4: But Zach Harper says he has a plan.

2052
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 3: I don't understand why the league does well. I do

2053
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 3: understand why the league doesn't do this, but this The

2054
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 3: fix for tanking is simple. Unweight the lottery. You miss

2055
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,560
Speaker 3: the playoffs, you have a one in fourteen chance of

2056
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 3: getting the number one pick, and you just do it

2057
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 3: for the top three picks, right right, one and fourteen chance. Now,

2058
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 3: the reason they won't do that is because the fear

2059
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 3: is someone might tank out of the playoffs, so they

2060
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 3: get a chance. Right, You know what teams are not

2061
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 3: going to do give up any amount of playoff revenue,

2062
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 3: any chance of a Cinderella thing for a seven point

2063
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 3: one percent chance to get the number one pick.

2064
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 2: And I think when you say teams, the thing is

2065
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 2: important to specify because I know exactly what you're talking about.

2066
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 2: But like ownership, right, like these things that like, these

2067
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 2: mandates come on from on high.

2068
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: You the front office has to get ownership to be

2069
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 3: on board for this.

2070
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 4: That is how that happens.

2071
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 2: And when we're talking about these teams, who would be

2072
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 2: And that's well, the part of the problem is when

2073
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 2: you're thinking about tanking out. So I would say this,

2074
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 2: playoffs are play in. Well that that changed. No, if

2075
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 2: you missed the if you miss the playoffs, you're in

2076
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 2: the lottery, right, So if you're and you miss it,

2077
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 2: you're you're in the lottery.

2078
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 4: Like see, because that that's my.

2079
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 2: That Actually I love it because people may feel it

2080
01:37:56,280 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: radical or whatever. But all of these other distance sentimizations

2081
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:09,879
Speaker 2: of tanking are all like they all punish losing instead

2082
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: of like rewarding winning, right, do you know what I'm saying,

2083
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 2: Like instead of reward like instead of like you get

2084
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 2: fined because they feel like you may have lost this

2085
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 2: game as opposed to you got this win. So there's

2086
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 2: some benefit to it. So to your point, there's no

2087
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 2: benefit in that in that space to be a sixteen

2088
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 2: win team. No, there's no benefit at all.

2089
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 3: Now some people would argue, yeah, but this helps the

2090
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:36,799
Speaker 3: really bad teams have a chance to be good. I'm sorry,

2091
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 3: don't be really bad. Try that, right, Try being better

2092
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,719
Speaker 3: at your job as a front office. Like I don't

2093
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 3: understand this thing, and it's the whole thing. Like I

2094
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:50,480
Speaker 3: think parody is for losers. I will say this forever.

2095
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 3: Parody is for losers. It should be hard to run

2096
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 3: an NBA team. It should be hard to win basketball games.

2097
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 4: It just should. It's pro sports.

2098
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 2: It's I put it like, they don't need to make

2099
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 2: it any easier.

2100
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 3: No, they don't, right, And so one in fourteen chances

2101
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:06,679
Speaker 3: you missed the you missed the playoffs, one and fourteen

2102
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 3: chance at number one pick? Fine, why is it, like,

2103
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 3: why does it need to be any more beneficial for

2104
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 3: a team that is sixteen and sixty six versus team

2105
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 3: that went thirty and fifty two.

2106
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: And especially when you consider, like I've I've heard enough

2107
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 2: guys say it to where I believe it true. Players

2108
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 2: are not tanking, right, No, So, like guys are going

2109
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 2: out there, and there's enough player of podcast out there

2110
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 2: where you could tell a guy he's like, you know,

2111
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 2: this time of the year, especially this March period and time,

2112
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 2: you're not necessarily looking at all.

2113
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 4: The stars the guys who are locked up.

2114
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 2: This is when guys are out there trying to make

2115
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 2: sure they have a job next year, right, yeah, a

2116
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 2: job two years from now. So there's like people are

2117
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 2: They're still going out there and going at it. That's

2118
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 2: why you end up with the team like the Bulls winning.

2119
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 2: Oh they're eight and two in their last ten. Yeah right,

2120
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 2: they didn't great, you know they're but like to your

2121
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 2: point of trying to stay out of the you know,

2122
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 2: would you tank for like would you try to tank

2123
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 2: out of the ten spot if you're in Chicago like

2124
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 2: in this spot, or Miami if you're in this spot?

2125
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,599
Speaker 4: Like, No, No, I don't think anybody would.

2126
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 2: Realistically try to do it because the chances that you

2127
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 2: get it, it's not so they flattened them for the

2128
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 2: first three, right, so the first three of fourteen percent? Yeah,

2129
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 2: but if to your point, if it goes down to

2130
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 2: one point four percent, you're legitimately playing for you know,

2131
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 2: you they're playing to make the playoffs because you have

2132
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 2: no benefit of getting the number one overall pick. And

2133
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 2: the thing here, there's I don't think it exists in

2134
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 2: the NBA. Are these in today's league where you can

2135
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 2: draft one player and that player now immediately turns the

2136
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 2: franchise around from an eighteen win team to a forty

2137
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 2: win team.

2138
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 3: Wemby is one of the greatest rookies we've ever seen.

2139
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 3: They won twenty two games last year.

2140
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying Like that, It's not like

2141
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 2: in the NFL where you can make like the Patriots,

2142
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 2: where it won four games last year. Right on paper,

2143
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 2: right now, depending what to do with the draft, I

2144
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 2: might pick them to make the wild card, right you know,

2145
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 2: cause that that but that turnarounds not crazy. Houston won

2146
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 2: three games drafts DJ Strouds making two three moves boom,

2147
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 2: We're in the playoffs consecutive years. That's not happening, for example,

2148
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 2: to the New Orleans Pelicans this year.

2149
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 3: No, the problem, like, okay, let's say a team does

2150
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 3: decide to do that, that is going to be so

2151
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 3: few and far between. It's not going to be a trend.

2152
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 3: It's not going to be an epidemic of teams trying

2153
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 3: to get out of the playoffs and making a mockery

2154
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 3: of this thing. That's not going to happen. People, they're

2155
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 3: making a mockery of it now. The product in March

2156
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 3: is bad it's bad, Like it's really bad right now.

2157
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 3: All that oh they're shooting too many threes in October, November, December,

2158
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 3: all that crap is nothing compared to what fans are

2159
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 3: paying for to go to games now. So that's the

2160
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 3: issue that was asked.

2161
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 2: If you was in Washington last week, Oh, you watched

2162
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 2: the team put up one hundred and six two points

2163
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 2: in regulation.

2164
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 4: On your squad.

2165
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty two in regulation. It's a game

2166
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 2: that had me looking up the highest score ever, which

2167
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 2: is now No.

2168
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty six. Yeah, they were knocking on.

2169
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 3: The door at three point, right, but that was an overtime, right,

2170
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 3: that wasn't a regulation.

2171
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 2: So it's like, I wholeheartedly agree, And it's just the

2172
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 2: weirdest thing to me that like that like the league

2173
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 2: in itself, that this is this tanking has been a

2174
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 2: thing forever. Yeah, like conceptually has been a thing forever, to.

2175
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 4: The point where we had a team saying we're.

2176
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 2: Gonna like employ the process of doing this, like it's

2177
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 2: something that's always happened. And but I honestly feel like

2178
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,679
Speaker 2: it's a little bit like it's it might be better

2179
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 2: than it's been because if we're looking at a Cooper

2180
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 2: flag twenty years ago, which you know was Lebron, right,

2181
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 2: the super hyped prospect to like everybody was trying to

2182
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 2: get it Lebron. You know what I'm saying, Like I'm

2183
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 2: looking at teams. You know, obviously you look at the

2184
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 2: very bottom, but teams like the Raptors, the Heat they

2185
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 2: could be going in and like really starting two way

2186
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 2: guys right now.

2187
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 3: To the league's credit, a big thing that helped was

2188
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:21,799
Speaker 3: the playing tournament. That did help teams remain competitive because

2189
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 3: and you've seen the Heat go to the finals. You've

2190
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:26,639
Speaker 3: seen the Lakers get to the conference finals. Like you've

2191
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 3: seen teams be in the playing tournament find success and

2192
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 3: have a deep playoff run. That was something that kept

2193
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 3: more teams competitive throughout the end of the season. So

2194
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 3: that's helped it. But you said get like you saw

2195
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 3: a team give up one hundred and sixty two points.

2196
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh to your point about the play in too, It

2197
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 3: also for Memphis the year before. I think Memphis the

2198
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 3: first year they were in the play in then took

2199
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 3: a shot up to the top of the standings. Right,

2200
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,560
Speaker 3: Minnesota was in a playing game. Then they take a

2201
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 3: shot to the top of the standings. It's almost like

2202
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 3: and Houston didn't make a playoff game last year. I'm

2203
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 3: not in game, but they were in the mix until

2204
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 3: like the last week of the season, and then boom.

2205
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 4: You see, so it's a thing Portland. Portland will be

2206
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 4: that team next year. R Portland's been going for it.

2207
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 2: Building, yeah, building on something, and then boom, all of

2208
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 2: a sudden, are you know, hey, you know, I don't know.

2209
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 4: Maybe Josh Getty keeps sitting half court shots. It might

2210
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 4: be Chicago.

2211
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 2: Let's kick it over to Steve de Seger right now,

2212
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 2: new coach, same result it looks like for Memphis. But

2213
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have a ton of stuff going on, Steve.

2214
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 8: What you got well, everything just about is final in

2215
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 8: the NBA.

2216
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 6: We'll get to that.

2217
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 8: Duke lead still double digits over Alabama was an under

2218
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 8: twelve minutes to go right now, But Lakers are up

2219
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 8: seven with about ten seconds left at Memphis, and yes,

2220
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 8: he is playing tonight. John Moran had missed the last

2221
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 8: six games with a hamstring injury. Memphis head coach Taylor

2222
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 8: Jenkins was just fired yesterday. Morant on the court as

2223
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 8: a starter tonight. Twenty two points tennis.

2224
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 4: It's nine of.

2225
01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 8: Twenty three shooting from the floor. Lakers lead late one

2226
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 8: thirty four to one twenty seven. They were up twenty

2227
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 8: in the first half of this game, by the way,

2228
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 8: thirty one points for Austin Reeves now twenty nine points

2229
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 8: for Luka, Doncic Lebron James with twenty five Anthony Davis

2230
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 8: for the MAVs seven of twenty three shooting from the

2231
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 8: floor eighteen points in a Dallas victory at Chicago won

2232
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 8: twenty eight to one nineteen. That ends the Bulls four

2233
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 8: game winning streak. Boston won its eighth in a row

2234
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,719
Speaker 8: one twenty one, one eleven at San Antonio. Jason Tatum

2235
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 8: with twenty nine points. He also had ten rebounds, eight assists,

2236
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 8: just one turnover. Oklahoma City won its ninth straight game,

2237
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 8: one thirty two to one eleven over Indiana. Shay Giljos

2238
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 8: Alexander thirty three points. He had no turnovers. Miami got

2239
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 8: thirty points from Tyler Hero in a win at Philadelphia,

2240
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:50,919
Speaker 8: won eighteen ninety five. Philly has lost seven straight. Brooklyn

2241
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 8: ended a six game losing streak with a win at

2242
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 8: Washington won fifteen one twelve. The Nets trailed with under

2243
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 8: ten seconds left. Washington's record now sixteen and fifty eight.

2244
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 8: In Orlando today rip Sacramento one twenty one to ninety one.

2245
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 8: It is now a Laker final one thirty four to

2246
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 8: one twenty seven at Memphis. Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers

2247
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 8: will not play Sunday due to knee injury management. Update

2248
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 8: on the Duke Blue Devils, one seed in the East

2249
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 8: winning the regional final against two seed Alabama fifty nine

2250
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 8: forty eight with under twelve minutes to go. Duke still

2251
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 8: shooting fifty percent from the floor. Bama star Mark sears

2252
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 8: two of nine shooting. He has five points, three turnovers.

2253
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 8: One seed in the West Region, Florida advanced out of

2254
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 8: San Francisco, winning that regional final, eliminating Texas Tech eighty

2255
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 8: four to seventy nine. Florida had trailed by ten with

2256
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 8: five and a half minutes left, then All American Walter

2257
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 8: Clayton made three three pointers in the next four and

2258
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 8: a half minutes. Clayton finished with thirty points. The Final

2259
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:52,759
Speaker 8: four is next weekend in San Antonio. To the women's

2260
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 8: Sweet sixteen usc still alive. The top seeds won without

2261
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 8: injured star Juji Watkins tonight sixty seven sixty one OHO

2262
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 8: Kansas State. Yukon got forty points from Page Beckers and

2263
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 8: beat Oklahoma eighty two to fifty nine wins in Birmingham

2264
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 8: for TCU and Texas. Among the NHL games, Saint Louis

2265
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 8: won it's ninth in a row, two to one at

2266
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 8: Colorado Arena. Sabalanca took the tennis final in Miami. The

2267
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 8: Yankees hit nine home runs in a win at home

2268
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 8: over Milwaukee today twenty to nine. The final Aaron Judge

2269
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 8: three homers, eight RBIs Miami in twelve innings edge Pittsburgh

2270
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 8: five to four. Padres won nothing over Atlanta. Padres or

2271
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 8: three and zero. Arizona's a Heenneo Suarez has homered in

2272
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 8: all three games so far they see young season, but

2273
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 8: the Diamondbacks are trailing the Cub's bottom of the nine

2274
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 8: four to three Chicago good start for show to Imanaga.

2275
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 8: He went seven innings. It was Houston over the Mets

2276
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 8: two to one. Currently, it's the A's leading two to

2277
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 8: one at Seattle in the fourth and the Tigers and

2278
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 8: Dodgers are tied two to two. In the bottom of

2279
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 8: the fifth, it was Roki Sasaki of La making his

2280
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 8: home debut. He was out after an inning and two

2281
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 8: thirds two runs, giving up four walks, a wild pitch,

2282
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 8: sixty one pitch is thrown in an inning and two thirds.

2283
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 4: Back to you, thanks, Steve.

2284
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 2: You see that a robbery job last night and a

2285
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 2: Chavez ravine. When they reviewed that, I'll say, oh, the

2286
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 2: play at the plate, they play at the plate.

2287
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 8: Well, it didn't help that the Tigers runner who initially

2288
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 8: was called safe in lunging for the plate, he curled

2289
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 8: his back leg up right into the catcher's mitt.

2290
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2291
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 8: Well if his legs had just been out straight as

2292
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 8: you dive face first toward home plate.

2293
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 3: See this is why you have to follow Willie Mays

2294
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 3: Hayes in Major League two. You say, I'm coming right

2295
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:45,440
Speaker 3: through you, right, I'm on right through, and then catchers

2296
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,759
Speaker 3: sets up for a collision. I know it's not allowed anymore.

2297
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 3: He sets up for glision. You jump right over him.

2298
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 8: And some people are faster rounding third than others. I'll

2299
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 8: just say sure, yeah, yeah, issue getting the full spring

2300
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 8: training trying to come home on that one. He wasn't

2301
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:02,679
Speaker 8: quite as bad as the World Series last year, when

2302
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 8: Gincarlo Stanton was rounding third and it looked like NFL films.

2303
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 3: He's still he still has he still hasn't got there, like.

2304
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 2: The autumn Wednesday, one month out from the NFL draft

2305
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 2: and things, you know, obviously flying right, all types of takes.

2306
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 2: You know, guys are falling down the draft board, which

2307
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 2: is you know, you gotta love that. It's like the

2308
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 2: weather man predicting rain and being mad when it's Sonny.

2309
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's the biggest joke to me. But we've

2310
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 2: seen what six quarterbacks go first round last year, which

2311
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 2: was incredible, six in the first what was Nick's the

2312
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 2: twelfth pick, first fifteen picks and six quarterbacks taken. So

2313
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 2: I asked you this, and this year was the kind

2314
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 2: of the renaissance of the running back, right, Ray Kwan

2315
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 2: went nuts, Derek Henry went nuts. Even Josh Jacobs in

2316
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 2: Green Bay had a great year. A lot of these

2317
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 2: free agent running backs had great years. And it's kind

2318
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 2: of changing the attitude of like, you know, what turns out,

2319
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:13,599
Speaker 2: maybe we could run the ball running backs actually good?

2320
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2321
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 2: Uh, So I asked you which one do you find

2322
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 2: to be more likely three running backs drafted in the

2323
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,560
Speaker 2: first round, because we have one for sure, yeah, and

2324
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 2: I think we have a possible gent's going to be.

2325
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 3: A first round Yeah, yeah, Well what about Hampton? I

2326
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 3: think I think he's so.

2327
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 2: I think we're like you know, says think we have

2328
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,759
Speaker 2: two yeah, or three quarterbacks taken in the first round.

2329
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 2: They got one that's a lock. Who's the and cam Ward?

2330
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 2: I mean who the door.

2331
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 4: Feels like he's definitely gonna I think, right is a

2332
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 4: question of where Jackson Dart.

2333
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 6: There's a lot of noise about Dart in the first round.

2334
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 6: I have I would not.

2335
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 2: But the reason I think I think that there are

2336
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 2: going to be three quarterbacks taken in this draft in

2337
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 2: the first round. Like when we all are looking at

2338
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 2: the line the one through thirty two Thursday night, we're

2339
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 2: gonna be sitting up there and be like, I can't

2340
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 2: believe the Steelers actually drafted Jaling Mirroe twenty one.

2341
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 4: All right, I can't believe the Steelers. I can't.

2342
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 2: I can't. There's so many good teams in this league

2343
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 2: that are just lacking at quality quarterback, Like teams that

2344
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 2: have rosters that are solid that are just lacking at quarterback.

2345
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:25,759
Speaker 2: To where Kirk Cousins is getting one hundred million dollars

2346
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 2: guaranteed a sight unseen off of ACL tear.

2347
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you see what I that's the Falcons.

2348
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 2: The Falcons have a take like the Falcons have a

2349
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 2: team legitimately in a division that's been won by nine

2350
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 2: game winning Tampa Bay.

2351
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 4: The last two or three years. You see what I'm saying. Yeah,

2352
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 4: you cant like these things. It feels open, it does. Yeah, yeah,

2353
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 4: it is open.

2354
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 3: I just man, I look at that, and I'm like,

2355
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:53,799
Speaker 3: and maybe he'll maybe he'll end up being good Jackson Dart,

2356
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 3: that's gonna be the kid.

2357
01:51:56,760 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 2: I if I had to stake my claim on a guy,

2358
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 2: it would be Jaylen Miller.

2359
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 4: I like him.

2360
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 2: I've liked his game a lot. Yeah, I think he

2361
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 2: is high level at His deep ball is very high level,

2362
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 2: his speed is elite, and I think we can figure

2363
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 2: the rest out in the right scenario.

2364
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess my question would be with him, what

2365
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 3: does it look like if you don't have great weapons? No,

2366
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 3: I mean you know which, which I guess you could

2367
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 3: say about any the college quarterback coming in, But it

2368
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 3: like if he's I guess he wouldn't be going towards

2369
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 3: the top of the draft, So you're probably going to

2370
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 3: a better team. Sure, so maybe that's not such an issue.

2371
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 4: But to your.

2372
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 2: Point, yeah, because that's the same thing we're dealing with,

2373
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 2: like and to be fair, still don't know the answer

2374
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 2: for Joe Burrow may never right. We won't answer with

2375
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, so sometimes it doesn't matter, right, Because that

2376
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 2: was the big knock going on Joey coming.

2377
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 4: I was like, well, what's he gonna look like?

2378
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 6: He's always to start with wide receivers. Guess was a

2379
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 6: rookie only had t Higgins right look pretty good that year.

2380
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 6: Went to the second year.

2381
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 4: He got hurt four games into his rookie season.

2382
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 6: It was Jamar, do they go to the super Bowl?

2383
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 6: Jamar's rookie year?

2384
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 2: Jamar sat out COVID College and good Man maybe it

2385
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:16,639
Speaker 2: was his first or second year. Could do the first

2386
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 2: second year because I know Jamar sat out twenty twenty

2387
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 2: and then people were worried about him coming into the

2388
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 2: draft because he had had some drops in the preseason.

2389
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 3: This is such a tangent though, my bad ah No

2390
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 3: I like it though, I man, we I now that

2391
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 3: we're talking about it. Jackson darts one hundred percent go

2392
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 3: in the first round. That feels like such a first

2393
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 3: round pick.

2394
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 2: Like I would go with mil Row, but I've seen

2395
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 2: enough people who know what they're talking about that like

2396
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 2: watch his under pressure tape and so on, it's like

2397
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:44,799
Speaker 2: this guy could brut.

2398
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 6: Up Todd McShay early. Yeah, I think I think it

2399
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 6: was like yesterday or the day before. He said, if

2400
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 6: you take Jackson Dart, there's cutups you can watch when

2401
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,839
Speaker 6: you watch these guys tape. If you watch his only

2402
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 6: under pressure, it's like elite, but you know, you got

2403
01:53:58,400 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 6: to you.

2404
01:53:58,640 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 4: Gotta filter and everything else.

2405
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 6: It's not you know, has a guy in his face,

2406
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 6: but you know that alone there's something to work with.

2407
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 4: But it's also it's much better than that.

2408
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 2: And if watches under pressure tape, but he looks like

2409
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 2: he's you know, blind right right.

2410
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 3: Or or peeing himself, like I want to see that.

2411
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 6: The concept that you play better when someone's about to

2412
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 6: white you up is kind of funny.

2413
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 4: I kind of like that, though. I wouldn't mind that.

2414
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 3: It's like the whole idea that like you need someone

2415
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 3: to punch in the face to feel alive, you know, Like, yeah,

2416
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 3: I don't mind that, I get it.

2417
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:25,639
Speaker 4: I like that.

2418
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 3: The running back though, I wouldn't mind a run on

2419
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 3: running backs. Look, and there's some that like there's some

2420
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 3: real talent in the draft.

2421
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 2: Because this is the thing and like the draft nerds

2422
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 2: of the world and you analytics losers and you're graphing calculators. Uh,

2423
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, okay, but that's what That's what I

2424
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 2: think of every time. Is the t I eighty three,

2425
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 2: which you know, I yeah, but the taking her running

2426
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 2: back in the first round is not a problem. It

2427
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 2: is a missing on a running back in the first

2428
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 2: issue is the issue, which is just a sub section

2429
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 2: of the issue of missing on any first round pick.

2430
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 4: Socks.

2431
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 2: Right, Like, if you miss on any first round pick

2432
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 2: is gonna have a major impact, is gonna really set

2433
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 2: you back.

2434
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 4: But like the Lions, Jamier Gibbs, they do that ten

2435
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 4: out of ten times.

2436
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 2: You know why because he's the second best player or

2437
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 2: best player on their offense.

2438
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 3: Right know who I blame Trent Richardson, you know, not

2439
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 3: a bad take. That's that's who I think ruined it

2440
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 3: for everybody.

2441
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 2: I think real quick, and I know, I know, we

2442
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 2: gotta go. Trent Richardson went the third of our pick.

2443
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 2: That really messed a lot of stuff up.

2444
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 6: Leonard Fournette too.

2445
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I said Leonard Fournette was his first

2446
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 2: couple of years was good. Jerry mess the lot up

2447
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 2: paying Zeke the money afterwards, like paying Zeke like he

2448
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 2: was the top back. And but the number one guy

2449
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 2: I give the running backs don't matter. Blame to is

2450
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 2: Adam Gaze. Le'Veon Bell sat out that whole year and

2451
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 2: then when he played for the Jets, just didn't use

2452
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:57,120
Speaker 2: him right, just didn't.

2453
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, we had this high paid

2454
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 4: running back, you know he just rather no, no, you

2455
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 4: use it.

2456
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 6: Just just just HB dive.

2457
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 4: All he's doing. And all of a sudden, everybody's like, oh.

2458
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 6: The worst player that it carries to Frank Gore too,

2459
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 6: that's the good.

2460
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 2: So I and then you know, you look at where

2461
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 2: Adam Gase has been exactly, So I blame Adam Gase

2462
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 2: has a lot to do with that.

2463
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 4: But coming up next to everybody says this is can't miss.

2464
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 4: Is it true?

2465
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 2: We'll get to that and just the moment Martin Wiss

2466
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 2: and Zach Harper, Fox Sports Radio coming to you line

2467
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 2: from the Tirereck dot Com Studios. Martin Wiss, Zach Harper

2468
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 2: keeping the seats warm for Aaron Torres and Jason Martin.

2469
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 2: They'll be breaking down all of the college basketball action.

2470
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 4: Both male and female.

2471
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 2: You know, Hailey van Lyz set a record for TCU

2472
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 2: player points score in a tournament for so good for her.

2473
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 3: And apparently Elite eight appearances.

2474
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 4: I hope it's a record, right, I hope it's a record.

2475
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 4: If you've been to six, I don't have to tell you,

2476
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 4: but she has been to five.

2477
01:56:57,280 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 2: And of course Duke right now playing Alma Florida the

2478
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 2: first team to advance thus far. But you know, we're

2479
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 2: seeing how this all plays out. But looking at Cooper Flag,

2480
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 2: he's pretty much I mean, you know, we can come

2481
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 2: up with all the acronyms or sayings or whatever, but

2482
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 2: the people he's been the number one overall pick in

2483
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 2: this draft for the last two years. Zach, What if

2484
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 2: anything do you think could hold him back from reaching

2485
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 2: his uh? What the media at least are people talking

2486
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 2: about him think could be his true potential?

2487
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2488
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 3: I think I think the coverage of him has actually

2489
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 3: been a disservice to his NBA potential because they're looking

2490
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 3: at him as like a franchise savior and the problem is,

2491
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 3: and look, he's gonna he is the number one pick,

2492
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 3: and he should be and he's going to be an

2493
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 3: excellent NBA player. He can't really dribble, Like that's the problem. Like,

2494
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 3: like he's he's gonna be a great defender at the

2495
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 3: NBA level. He's super athletic. He's gonna be a good rebounder.

2496
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 3: He can hit spot of jumpers, so like I think

2497
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 3: it jumpers pretty good. I think he'll be fine at

2498
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 3: the NBA level. It needs to improve, but it's it's

2499
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,879
Speaker 3: in a good spot. But to be able to create

2500
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 3: your shot consistently, his dribbling is not good enough. Like

2501
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 3: it's not strong. It's to dribble into creating a shot,

2502
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 3: into the gathering everything. It's not strong enough. We see

2503
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 3: time and time again. He's just all over the place

2504
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 3: at the college level. And that's all fine, Like he's eighteen, right,

2505
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't he doesn't have to be a finished product.

2506
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 3: But if you're expecting him to go out there and

2507
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 3: drop twenty a night by creating and having a bag

2508
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, like he doesn't have that.

2509
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing that I think I've seen more

2510
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 2: and more as I watch him I'm reminded of a

2511
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 2: clip DeMarcus Cousins was asked how he got the nickname Boogie,

2512
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:45,839
Speaker 2: and he got it like in college, right, Rod Strickling

2513
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 2: gave it to him because he's going through the drills

2514
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 2: and he's seven feet tall. But he's like, man, you

2515
01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 2: got a lot of wiggle, you got a lot of

2516
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 2: boogie in your dribble. I'm trying to think of another guy, like,

2517
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 2: for example, Kawhi Leonard doesn't right, he's trying straight through,

2518
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 2: straight on it down, but he's lead what he does

2519
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 2: when he's able to get out there. But when I'm

2520
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 2: looking at a guy who I want to consistently be

2521
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 2: able to make their own.

2522
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 4: Shot, you got to get open, and you gotta get.

2523
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 2: Open with your dribble. That's something that to me, we've

2524
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 2: seen it a few times in this game. He's gotten

2525
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 2: cut off at the baseline. He's gotten cut off at

2526
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,600
Speaker 2: the block trying to get to the rim because he

2527
01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily have the faith in his dribble and his

2528
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 2: ability to explode through that.

2529
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 3: And we know it's not an athleticism thing. He's quick,

2530
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 3: he's super quick, but it's the dribbling. Like I like

2531
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 3: him to it, liking it to a young Paul George, right,

2532
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 3: Like Paul George could not dribble early on in his career.

2533
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 3: I told you earlier before, like it looked like he

2534
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 3: was dribbling a football half the time. And I think

2535
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 3: that's the problem with Cooper. And again, this is all fixable.

2536
01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 3: You get with skills, coach, you figure it out, you

2537
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 3: get in the gym, he'll fix it. But don't expect

2538
01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 3: him to come in here and look like Larry Bird

2539
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 3: or look like you know, any of these guys, Like,

2540
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 3: it's not going to be that.

2541
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 2: Like a good example to me of a guy I

2542
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 2: think can use his dribble and honestly does it a

2543
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 2: little too much for my liking, but use his dribble

2544
01:59:58,160 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 2: to get open jump shots.

2545
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:00,600
Speaker 4: Is Jayson Tatum?

2546
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:04,080
Speaker 2: Yes, right, He's figured out how to sell a little

2547
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 2: shoulder fake and then all of a sudden has a

2548
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 2: step back and now he is somehow but booty open

2549
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 2: for three, yes, right, Like.

2550
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:12,720
Speaker 4: That's not what Cooper Flagg's got.

2551
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:14,880
Speaker 2: And I think for in order for him to reach

2552
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 2: the potential that people are talking about him to reaching,

2553
02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 2: that's got to be next. Because I think he's got

2554
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:23,200
Speaker 2: a lot of the other stuff. He's not got visions

2555
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 2: almost everything else really good. Passer size is crazy be

2556
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 2: able to fit in the league. So but I do

2557
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 2: think that ball handling is going to be the number

2558
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 2: one thing. Aaron Tauris, Jason Martin up next.

2559
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:34,240
Speaker 4: We're out.