1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Five years of Jaguars football. That could never happen. When 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: you're taking a knee, the game is over. Jaguars, did 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: you Jack, Jack Warris? Did Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: steps that John? Actually, Jaguarris Drive Time starts right now. 5 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into Jack's Drive Time Tuesday Morning, brought to you 6 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans, recapping the Jaguars lost the Houston Texans, 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: saw the four and five on the season, and soon 8 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: we'll be taking a much needed break from football. But 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: we are not taking any breaks. Yes we are. Yeah, 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: but it's coming five hours from now. Yeah, it's coming. 11 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: All right. Well, let's hear what Gardner Minshew has to 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: say about the loss. Yeah, it sucks man um an 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: execute of times, didn't make the plays we need to win. Um. 14 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: So Yeah, and it's not fun. That basically sums it up. 15 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: Nothing else left to say from Gardner minshuwa not loss. 16 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: It was a quick press conference here and he really 17 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: didn't have to say anything else. Well, and let's clarify, 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: there was a little buzz out there that Gardner walked off. 19 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: He don't answer one question. Uh, it was a small 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: group in there, only a couple of reporters usually asked questions. 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: I was one of them. I was getting back into 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: the locker room and didn't ask anything else. Jean for 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: who asked the first question, was done so I don't 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: want to be painted like Gardner was pouting, like he 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: was trying to get out of there quick. No, but 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: he didn't hesitate to say, hey, gud, let's talk about this. 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he was ready to leave, but it wasn't 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: like he was being a jerk about it. No. I 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: didn't think so he was ready to go, And I 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: see want of people to think that, oh, first time 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: things went bad, he behaved poorly. I didn't get that 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: vibe from I just thought at some point he was 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: ready to get out and took the opportunity. I thought 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't a good look, but I didn't think it 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: was because of him. It's just the whole what's the 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: politic word, optics of the whole thing. Um, it was 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: there was a quick trigger there. It was like the 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: British media or not as aggressive or assertive in asking questions. Um. 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: I was sitting there because I was typing out quick 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: thoughts and I thought, well, it's over already, rightly. Um. 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: You know he had a right to be frustrated. Had 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: four turnovers in the fourth quarter of a game that 43 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: really didn't feel very competitive from the Jaguars perspective. So 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: if I were him, I would have been ready to 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: get off the stage. Also, I can't blame him, and 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: I didn't even care about before turnover. That was so 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: far after the fact that it was what happened early 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: that was not good for him. But the four turnovers, 49 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's what people saw at the end of 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: the game, and they were going to hang on them. 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: The wheels fell off at that point, right, that's a 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: good way to put it. All. Right, let's get into 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: big things. Big thing one is the decision. It is here, 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: who's gonna be your starting quarterback next week? And then 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars travel to play the Colts. Dug mo Own addresses 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: the decision after the loss. I haven't spoken to either 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: quarterback yet, um and I hate, you know, talking to 58 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: the media with my plans, but you know my plans 59 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: were again the disappointment of the team, you know, not 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: performing well, will be on my mind now for the 61 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: next four d eight hours. I think after those four 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: eight hours over, I'm gonna step away a little bit 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: and take a break because I don't have to make 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: a decision or have time. Um, that's what I'm gonna 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: talk to the quarterbacks about, and then I'll tell them, 66 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: probably right before we come back on Sunday. We'll be 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: able to discuss where we're gonna go. That's pretty much 68 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: my plan. Big thing, too, is the outlook. Before Sunday's lost, 69 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: you were still bringing up the playoffs and what could 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: happen if you won this game and the Colts lost 71 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: this game? But can you still even talk about the 72 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: playoffs at this point? What is the outlook going into 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. Chris Connelly says, it 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: has to be pretty much perfect. As for the season, 75 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, we have no margin for air left and 76 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker goes to Houston, and right now we're gonna 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: need some help. But really we gotta we gotta win games. 78 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: We gotta win games that are tough like this on 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: the road when things are ideal, when things don't start fast, 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: we have to be able to recover. And finally, Big 81 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: thing three is the to do list? What should the 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: Jaguars work on during the bye week. We asked this 83 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: question because a few weeks ago we were saying, Oh, 84 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: they're back to the two thousand seventeen Jaguars. They have 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: a good defense, they're running the ball. Neither of those 86 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: things happened against the Texans, for not only had forty 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: yards rushing, they completely took away the running game. The 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: defense at times fell apart with big plays. What do 89 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: you gotta work on going into the bye week, Well, 90 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: you get to make your decision first. I mean all 91 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: of that is secondary to who's your quarterback. Um. To me, 92 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: this is a simple one. This is not a rebuilding team. 93 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: If it had been, if this was a season where 94 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: your expectation was to win some games and identify some players, well, 95 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: then Gardner minsh you should stay in the lineup. But 96 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: this was identified as a season that you were going 97 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: for the playoffs. And despite the fact that you're behind 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: the eight ball now, you spent eighty eight million dollars 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: on Nick tools. I'm not trying to be deluded by 100 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: the warm ups that I've watched in Cincinnati with Nick 101 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: putting the ball in a dime. But I did see 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: some tape and I think it's gonna be up on 103 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com later today. Jeff Lockman basically confirming what 104 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: I saw from the field on Sunday was that Mince, 105 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: you missed open receivers down the field where there were 106 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: opportunities for big plays. Is it the arm that was 107 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: sore and he didn't think he could get it there? 108 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: Was it identification? I don't know. I'll leave that up 109 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: to coaches. What I know is is that if Nick 110 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: Foles is on the field, they have a better chance 111 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: because of his body of work and his experience over 112 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: the second half of the season to go six and one. 113 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: Although that seems like a stretch, Um, but that's what 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: I think it takes for you to be a playoff 115 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: team this year, and I think you have a greater 116 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to do that with Fools than you do with 117 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: the rookie sixth round pick. Despite how exciting he is, 118 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I think that Fools is the best choice for this 119 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: franchise based on their expectations for this year. Minshu Mania 120 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: can still happen in the future. He's gonna happen in 121 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: the next seven weeks. You mentioned the money, Ryan, I 122 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: don't think you pay Folds because you paid him the money. 123 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you play Fold because you 124 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: paid the money. But let me clarify that you believed 125 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: in something about him. In March, you built your plans 126 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: strongly enough to pay him. So the fact that you 127 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: believed in that means that you believe there's something there 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: that's special, so you stick with that plan at this point. 129 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: The second thing, and I kind of thought of this 130 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: when Conley was talking, Uh, and I don't think he 131 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: meant this, but I think perhaps it was it was 132 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: in the air. Uh. They've got to be better at 133 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: winning a game when things don't go right quickly. Well, 134 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: that's what Foals is. Foals isn't necessarily a guy who's 135 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: going to come out in six straight games and play 136 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: great quarters, but he is a guy who who if 137 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: things can go bad for two or three quarters, can 138 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: still come back and make it happen in the fourth court. 139 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: And I ment, She's been that guy too, Don't get 140 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: me wrong, but at this point folds as experience. Foles 141 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: has been there, done that. Uh. To me, there's no 142 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: question you go back for right. And look what we 143 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: saw on Sunday was the Texans had a very controlled 144 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: plan of rushing Gardner Minshew. They wanted to keep him 145 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: in the pocket, but in case he escaped. Guys were 146 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: very disciplined on the Texans front. They stayed in their 147 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: lanes and he ran back amongst them and in several 148 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: situations was tackled at or near the line of scrimmage. 149 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: It was the Saints game plan. It was all over again. 150 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: And see, I didn't think they could pull it off. 151 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: No JJ want right. So the Cam Jordan thing didn't work, 152 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: and their secondary was minus Bradley Roby and two Shaun Gibson, 153 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: and I thought I didn't see them being able to 154 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: pull that off. But credit to them, they did and 155 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: showed us a young quarterback who made a lot of 156 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: progress but isn't ready to lead this team to the 157 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: playoffs this year. And whether you think that's the most 158 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: absurd statement or not, playoffs and Jaguars, that's what the 159 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: goal was. And you say, you don't give up in 160 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: that goal until you have to. You don't. You don't 161 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: play him because you paid him. I do. If I'm 162 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: the owner and I spent that money, I want to 163 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: see him on the field. It's Doug's decision. I totally 164 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: get that, but I'm just had to have believed in 165 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: it too, and I get it. And that's what I'm 166 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: saying is is that the money is indicative of my 167 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: commitment to the plan, that he was the guy, and 168 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't abandon the plan because there's another young quarterback 169 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: that I like. I go back to the plan because 170 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: my plan was designed to get me to the playoffs, 171 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: to sell tickets, to grow your fan base in Jacksonville, 172 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: which they need. If you go to his comments over 173 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: the weekend and you were there for them, winning goes 174 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: hand in hand with success in Jacksonville at the gate, 175 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: which is critical to the overall financial success. So Minshew 176 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: can still be the long term here, but Falls is 177 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: the short term this year, next year, or whatever they 178 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: determine it to be. You have to go back to Falls. 179 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: Here's my question. Um, the cover two, single high defensive 180 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: clearly worked against this team. It's not just working because 181 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: of Minshow's struggles against it, it's also king the other 182 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: day you had Chris Conley DJ Shark a a leg 183 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: weary DJ Chark. It looks like after nine games of 184 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: being sort of being the guy for the first time 185 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: and keeling Cole as your weapons, just because Minshew missed 186 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: a couple doesn't mean those receivers were winning all the 187 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: time they need D. D. Westbrook back, and then they 188 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: need those guys to do it. Is somebody's got to 189 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: get open the middle field and make plays, or this 190 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: defense is also going to work against Folds. So yes, 191 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: you have a better chance with Folds. But I don't 192 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: necessarily want to say everything that happened poorly the other 193 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: day was all Gardner Minshew. Well, no, and I'm not 194 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: saying that either, but I'm saying, if you hit on 195 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: there's one that jeffyal show. I think it was the 196 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: first play of the second half where Chris Connley is 197 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: so wide open. It's a seventy yard touchdown, maybe seventy 198 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: five yards from the from the twenty five yard line 199 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: where it was. Well, that changes the dynamic of the game. Now, 200 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: the counter is you could argue that Chris Chris DJ 201 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: Chark's play at the four yard line, which was a 202 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: ridiculous penalty, utterlyiculous, that they threw the flag on that, Well, 203 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: then maybe they score and that changes the game too. 204 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I see all of that. The middle of 205 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: the field has been a problem because they don't have 206 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: a tight end. This team desperately needs a body in 207 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. And maybe Josh Oliver is 208 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: that for Gardner in the future. He's not that right now. 209 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy was for Minshew and he's not because of 210 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: the knee injury. So the reality of it is is 211 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: that until the middle of the field becomes something that 212 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: the too high cover stuff is going to work against Gardner. 213 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: And I think fools can beat that. I think he 214 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: beats it because he's got a greater body of work, 215 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: something to fall back on um and he's a stronger 216 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: arm quite honestly, and you're right, I think he's the hope. 217 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: And but you also better think that. It's give me 218 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: three or four days spent in the next ten trying 219 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: to figure out how to get Josh Oliver are involved. 220 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: And Folds are gonna have to beat that kind too, 221 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: because that's what they're going to see the entire rest 222 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: of the season. Because they've seen the success and how 223 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: it's worked. Coaches offensive coordinators will not be able to 224 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: fool Nick Foles as they have Gardner Minshew. And by 225 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: the way, that's because Minshew is a rookie. He's a 226 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: very smart forty two on the Wonder Lick rookie and 227 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: will overcome it. But right now where they are, with 228 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: where they wanted to go, there is no reason to 229 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: leave Minshew in when you've got full sitting there. And 230 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: by the way, not to be left out. This is 231 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: what Fols has done the last two seasons. Come into 232 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: the game after November begins and lead a team to 233 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: a winning streak and a playoff berth. This is what 234 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: he does. If you had that bullet sitting off, or 235 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: that gun, or you choose your analogy, that car in 236 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: your driveway, you would drive that car. If that's the 237 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: car that gets on the road and get you into 238 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: a playoff push. I've got I've got a two thousand 239 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: seven escapes pretty much now that that wouldn't do it. 240 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: But Joe's got a nice alley. Maybe that's the car. 241 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: We've had a seven escape here before. What an analogy? 242 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Who would have thought we were going there? All right? Hey, 243 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: we gotta talk about this one too real quickly. That 244 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: is um the outlook, and that is what does it 245 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: take to become a playoff team. I think I think, 246 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: first of all, I get that this is not what 247 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: they're going to be talking about. You gotta go six 248 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: and one at the very least shift to go five 249 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: and two and got to have things work out in 250 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: your favor. You have five games left against the a 251 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: f C, three in the Division, two against the Colts, 252 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: one against the Titans, the Chargers and the Raiders, by 253 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: the way, both of them look like they're going to 254 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: be charging towards a a wild card run themselves. So 255 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: you need to win those five games because you got 256 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: your way behind the A brill obviously against Houston. Then 257 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: you've got games against the Buccaneers and the Falcons um 258 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: which I think you can look at and go, yeah, 259 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: they can win those. You gotta win those five games 260 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: against the a f C. You can't lose one of 261 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: those games and expect That's a tall order for a team. Look, 262 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: I expected them because they were missing the Texans were 263 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: missing their best offensive lineman, their best defensive lineman, two 264 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: thirds of their secondary. I expected this team to go 265 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: play well in a place they know how to play. 266 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: They did not. So I can't it here and say, well, 267 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: the Jaguars will go five and two, right or uh, 268 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: six and one and they'll make a playoff runt. I 269 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: can't beat the selling who Last night J P. Shutdickers 270 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: tell me this morning, said Locke, It they're going seven 271 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: and oh right. I get there was maybe a little 272 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: tongue in cheek there, but I think realistic was skiing 273 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: glass as it were. You have to to give yourself 274 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: any chance. There's no margin for eric. Chris Connley said it. 275 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: You have to win all five of your remaining a 276 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: f C games. You have to. This is part of 277 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: my Bernie Wood fire Girl hold off. But I will 278 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: say what I missed going into this game, Brian, Um 279 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: I missed. I thought the same thing you did. I 280 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna have a lot of match of advantages, 281 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: the talent differential. I didn't realize without that, the loss 282 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: of Westbrook. I guess I didn't add it up and 283 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: realized that that meant your skill position weapons in the 284 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: passing game with one receiver down right now becomes Chris Conley, 285 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: Keelan Cole and dhr. That's tough sledding. I think those 286 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: guys aren't good, but they're not enough. You're right, and 287 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I think the absence of d J. Hayden hurt this 288 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: team as well. He had been playing very well on 289 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Uh they like brown borders. 290 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: I thought he played okay um, but not having him 291 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: out there to direct traffic it allowed to Shaun Watson 292 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: to make some free throws. I can't point out anything 293 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: that happened because Hayden wasn't in the game, but I 294 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: can say that for the first eight games of the season, 295 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: it seemed like every time you looked up once a game, 296 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: he was making a play that made a difference. Without him, 297 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: you didn't get that. Yeah, and I think Brian you 298 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: can agree that it just kind of felt off the 299 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: entire game, like a lack of energy, juice. You were 300 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: waiting for something to happen. It kind of was just 301 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: they had a little juice in the pregame and then 302 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: it went away quickly because they just couldn't. It's funny 303 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: they won the coin toss and I thought, just take 304 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: the ball, right, I mean, it's they decline it whenever 305 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: they win it. Just take the ball and give Minshew 306 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: the ball in the stadium where people are excited to 307 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: see him play. I saw mustaches and head bands at 308 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: any event around London and it was ubiquitous. Let's let 309 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: him go, and instead they gave the ball to Shawn 310 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: Watson went right down the field. Now they only got 311 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: a field goal, but they grab momentum right there. Right. 312 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: Let I get this team was based on defense in 313 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: the running game, but it's shifting to offense. Let's let 314 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: the offense have the ball first, go down the field 315 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: and score that. It might be just a moot point, 316 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: but it felt that way to me because once Watson 317 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: got rolling, the Jaguars seemed to be reeling. Yeah, we're 318 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to stop this guy. That guy get started first, 319 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: go down the field and score. All right, when we 320 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: come back, we will recap that lost the Texans with 321 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: some highlights right here on jag Strive time. 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But first we must go 349 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: through some highlights of that loss to the Houston Texans. 350 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Let's start in the second quarter. This is just one 351 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: example of the Shawn Watson making something out of absolutely nothing, 352 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: and then Jaguars having trouble all day, getting him down 353 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: and sacking him six wats and the throwing Watson it 354 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: was froudly taking down the foot lot to actually dropped 355 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: the pass without hind Todd. I'm not a little to 356 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: train a few examples of that during the laws. But 357 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: let's go to the third quarter, first drive of the half, 358 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: coaches going into the locker room a four halftime saying, 359 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: this is a one score game. You know, we got this, 360 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: we got this. Chart gets called for offensive past interference 361 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: and the Jags think they're settling for a field goal, 362 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: and then this happens. Forty nine yard attempt snap over 363 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: and it doesn't get al off, book out, balls loose. 364 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: It's called a fluble flabble hops on it, and the 365 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Texans were the disastrous special tang. Yeah, that that was 366 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: just ugly lost a ton of momentum. And then we 367 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: go to the fourth quarter, first drive, it's fourth intend 368 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: the Jags going for it because you have to at 369 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: this point four chard worth of ten rose one and 370 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: it's called broad Conley and now it's cold as he 371 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: didn't get it a Dallian Conley all the myr own 372 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: challenges a call and the call stands. It was not 373 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: a catch, failed fourth down conversion and now here here 374 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: is where the wheels start to fall off. The Jaguars 375 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: down ninety the three. At this point you have to 376 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: get moving and Minshoe, I, I don't know where he's 377 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: going name make shoot over the middle, throws too hot 378 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: and it's intercepted, intercepted by the dome and that should 379 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: just about rapids and finally a positive that turned into 380 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: a negative. Jared Wilson makes a fantastic play on what 381 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: looks like a touchdown from Carlos Hide going fifty eight 382 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: yards in this final decisions. That's right off the guys. 383 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: It's Carlo's hot, a jack Carlo's hot go for the episode. 384 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm a ball is loose, Paul was loose. Jacksonville falls 385 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: on it and it then roll the touchback John Wilson. 386 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: Great play by Darren Wilson. Ball goes back into Minshoe's hands. 387 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: The very next play points interception. Defense doesn't even have 388 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: a chance to sit down on the bench. They're back 389 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: on the field at that point, it's it game over. 390 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: Give the kid a breathing four fourth quarter turnovers, and 391 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: again the game was decided by that point. But you 392 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: see that and the frustration. It just fits. I want 393 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: to go back to the top, and Abray Jones came back. 394 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: That was the Watson play where they had been blowing 395 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: the whistle on quarterbacks like this around the league, and 396 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: defenders had been taught not to hit. There are a 397 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: couple of players that fit into this category, but not 398 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: to come and just clobber the quarterbacks. So guys are 399 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: holding off because they don't want to kill him and 400 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: kill their team with the fifteen yard penalty, right, go down, right, 401 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: But he dumps it off like that. Avery Jones was 402 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: going banana saying, hit him, hit him, hit him. If 403 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: that's the way they're gonna call the game, And if 404 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: Watson's going to get that extra half second to dump 405 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: the ball off because the officials understand he's a playmaker, 406 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: then we have to pound him, pound him, pound him. 407 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: And I thought that was a very wise thing to 408 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: recognize on Abrey's part, if they're going to give him 409 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: the extra second right to make that play instead of 410 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: blowing the whistle, right there, you gotta make him pay 411 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, the league has got a problem with 412 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: this because um and again this is not the primary 413 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: issue of that game and this show. But in a 414 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: sense it does go back to there's more and more 415 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks, not quite who do things when under duress 416 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: like this guy does. But I thought there are a 417 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: couple of plays where traditionally would have been in the grasp. 418 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: And now what's the defender is supposed to do if 419 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: he hits a guy one week, he's getting a penalty 420 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: if he lays off because he doesn't want to get 421 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: a penalty. Now all of a sudden, he can pitch 422 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: back when he's going down to his running back or 423 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: make a throw. Uh. This is not unique. This has 424 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: happened over the years where there has been this sort 425 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: of issue, But it was really an issue Sunday and 426 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: in a game that at one point Brian was a 427 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: nine three game, and there's little plays that turned third 428 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: down or big plays that turned third down into first 429 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: Because of this issue, it can flip the game. Just 430 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: like the DJ Tart play. The game there was three 431 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: nothing there and they went to score touchdown, they might 432 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: have had to settled for a field goal instead of 433 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: that conversion and you have a different game. The reason 434 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: that I went back to it at the top, besides 435 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: the recollection of watching Abrey Jones admonished his teammates to 436 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: hit him, hit him, hit him, was because he's in 437 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: the division. Right. If you're gonna want to win the 438 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: division and get a home playoff game, you're gonna have 439 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: to go through those guys and him and how you 440 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: play Peyton Manning. Right, if you're Jack del Rio back 441 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: in the mid two thousand's and you're building a defense 442 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: to contend, you have to build a defense and a 443 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: philosophy that you know how to play this cat. And 444 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: that's a big thing because there were two or three 445 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: times where you thought he was down and the officials 446 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: are gonna call it down because they're gonna protect the 447 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: quarterback in the grass, and they didn't, and the Jaguars 448 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: backed off. So not only will the Jaguars address it 449 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: with the officials in the off season how do we 450 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: best play this, but they'll address it with their players. 451 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: They have to. Slaney mentioned I think going into this 452 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: segment or come out of the last one, that that 453 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: they looked listless. Um. I I know you guys have 454 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: a different perspective cure on the sidelines, and I'm watching 455 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: the press box. I didn't think they looked listless until 456 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: after the fifth time that they almost had Hopkins down, 457 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, wasn't down, didn't get him. I thought they 458 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: looked energetic from the past rush against a different team 459 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: where he's not jumping out of every every in the 460 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: grasp and it was like that call made anything like 461 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: that happened. He made some incredible plays, but I think that, 462 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: to me is what made the Jaguars all of a 463 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: sudden look listless, was if they had had those five sacks, 464 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: we would be talking about what another defense. It was 465 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: so sometimes circumstance. I didn't think they came out not 466 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: ready to play. I think by halftime they were thinking, 467 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: how in the world we're gonna get this guy down, 468 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: And there was some frustration, And I didn't worry necessarily 469 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: about the Carlos hide play at the end of the game. 470 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: That felt like a game over. Guys trying to jump 471 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: into a gap and all of a sudden, he's at 472 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: the back door. And it was a great job by 473 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Jerry Wilson to turn a negative into a positive, and 474 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: it lifted his team. That's the way that a guy 475 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: like Wilson's gonna shine him. And he he's a big cat, 476 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: and he was running down the field was six two 477 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: or six three. And by the way, did we see 478 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: anything even remotely like this from Carlos Hide in the 479 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: time he was here. He saw a guy last year, 480 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: he who he didn't want to be here, and he 481 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: was ready to quite absolutely and and wanted out. And 482 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: that's fine. I think everybody else wanted about too. One 483 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: point on Gardner Minha, I never gonna talk about him 484 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: the whole show. Uh. It looked to me in the 485 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter with the high throws and maybe even all 486 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: day a little bit he had to grow in a 487 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, he's I've been on the injury port 488 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: with the shoulder injury. UM. I don't want to say 489 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: that that was the reason for everything that happened on Sunday, 490 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: but if you think about it, a long game, a 491 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: long trip along stretch against NFL players, it did seem 492 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: in the second half like perhaps all of those circumstances 493 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: maybe got to him a little bit, and that's why 494 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: you had the high throws, the you know, everything sort 495 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: of going against Um again, it's it's just I don't 496 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: think if any question is going to be Folds, I 497 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: think it's time and I think what needs to be 498 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: said a lot is what an incredible job this kid did. 499 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: And I know it's for it's been sort of taken 500 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: off that focus because it's Folds minste Folds Minshew. And 501 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: if you're on one side, you hate the people on 502 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: the other side. Right now, I mean it's that kind 503 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: of thing. But if we had said at oh and 504 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: one that he would get you to four and five, 505 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: He's a rookie quarterback, six round pick who looked terribly 506 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: in the preseason, all that storyline, what a job he's done. 507 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: He's still the first half m v P. But it's 508 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: time to let the veteran take over. I think it's 509 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: in his defense. Um, they were close to a win 510 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: against Carolina. They were close, even though they didn't play 511 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: well against New Orleans, right, I mean, they were in 512 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: the game the entire game. He could have with a 513 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: little help here there, he might have gotten to five 514 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: and three. You might have had a winning record with 515 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: the kids. There was until a bad call. To be 516 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: honest with you, there were chances for them to do it, 517 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: so I get it. And and one more thing on 518 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: the on the field fourth down conversion where Chris Connley 519 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: appeared to have the catch and then they're defender's arm 520 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: was in there between him and being able to pull 521 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: the ball in. Well, that was a great throw. Sore 522 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: arm and long week and sore groin and all of 523 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: that aside, he still gave you a chance. When the 524 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: game was it would have made it a nine point 525 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: game had they scored a touchdown there. He still gave 526 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: you a chance with a good throw. He's shown enough 527 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: flashes for you to go, Okay, there is our jar 528 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: on the sholf. Let's get him healthy. Let's make sure 529 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: that he learns over the next seven games. You know 530 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: from Nick and the way that Nick plays this thing, 531 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: and see where he's at at the end of the season. 532 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: Here's the interesting thing, and I know we've probably touched 533 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: on this in the past. You've got the two first 534 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: round picks and he's the next two years. Now, whatever 535 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to do in the off seasons moving forward, 536 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: guess what you probably don't need to do with any 537 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: of this first pick a quarterback that maybe the ultimate 538 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: thing once we get through these next seen how they 539 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: turn out that you're talking about in January is okay. Now, 540 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: whatever we're gonna do because you reset every offseason, well, 541 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 1: now this reset doesn't have to involve Okay, we've got 542 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: the seventh pick in the you know, or the twelve. 543 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: How do we package to move up to get a key? 544 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: You need to worry about that. You can just pick 545 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: the best point. Well, and there's a bunch of quarterbacks 546 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: out there who will be sitting somewhere between I would 547 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: guess twenty and one. Depending on that, you might be 548 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: in a position to be able to back up because 549 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: you don't need watch and be able to and you 550 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: don't need well you take a good receiver, but you don't. 551 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: That's where it's strong. You're going to be able to 552 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: if you're Dave coldwell take a good receiver. Well, I 553 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: don't doubt that. However, it's not a priority. 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Like the cell did. But 597 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: I kind of have to credit Tony. We're talking on 598 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: the plane, so I may be influenced a little bit 599 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: by the Decelli positivity, but um, in a sense, I 600 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of get his point. You've got Jacoby Brissette, who 601 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: is going to be playing uh on an mc l injury, 602 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: not mobile I. In the next week, You've got the 603 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: Titans coming in, who who you have shown you can 604 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: be and that mental thing for these players should be 605 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: gone now. I get the fans have this Tennessee thing. 606 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 1: These players now know they can beat Tennessee. And then 607 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: you've got Tampa Bay and Los Angeles after that. The Chargers, Uh, 608 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: they're coming here. This team has been good in in 609 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: in this season against winnable beautible teams, meaning the Jaguars. Uh. 610 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: I think the Titans and the Buccaneers certainly fall into 611 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: that category. I don't know if the Charges well by 612 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: the time they get here, but I think they can 613 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: win these next four games because they're going to be 614 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: galvanized when they go to Indianapolis. There's going to be 615 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: a feeling of we've got our quarterback back and not 616 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: that they're going to be down on Minshew, but players 617 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: believe they're going to win generally, if they have a 618 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: reason to folds will be that. I don't believe they 619 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: will feel negative going into Indianapolis. If they win in 620 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: Indiana happens, I think they're absolutely going to feel like 621 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: they can run the table in terms of getting back 622 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: into and run the table with seven games that we're 623 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: thinking like that, But I think they win in the 624 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: next four and I'm sticking to it until they don't. 625 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: I uh don't believe that. No, I don't. I don't 626 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: believe that. So we'll we'll go to mine and I 627 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: say that Bulls come back and he'll win five games, 628 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: so he'll he'll be one better than Minshew. But the 629 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: Jaguars finished their season eight and eight, and and I'm 630 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: skeptical of their ability to go into Indianapolis and beat 631 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: the Colds if Jacoby Brissette is healthy. We'll find out 632 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: later about the m c l and and if that's 633 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: significant or not. But that's a hot team, and the 634 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: Jaguars haven't really beaten a hot team this year. The Broncos, 635 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the Titans, the Bengals, the Jets. That's not a hot team. 636 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: And I'm a little bit down on him because I 637 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: thought there was an opportunity on Sunday and I think 638 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: they missed it wildly. So I don't have a lot 639 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: of confidence in their ability to win the game that 640 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 1: people don't think they should win because they haven't done 641 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: it yet this year. I think Folds makes a difference, 642 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: and he hits some plays, but I think that five 643 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: and two over the final um gets them five and two. 644 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: It gets them to a point where they're eight and eight, 645 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: which is kind of what this team feels like to 646 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: me is get nine okay, so um, yeah, I thought that, 647 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: so go with he's the same with four and three 648 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: and uh and they finish eight and eight because it 649 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: feels to me like an eight and eight and they 650 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: feel like an average team. There's nothing worse than eight, Nate, Yeah, 651 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: because you're in fourteen is but then I've been through that. Well, 652 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's funny that you say. It's funny. 653 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: Challenge you on that. Yeah, it's funny that you say that. 654 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: I bet you the folks over here would disagree with 655 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: you completely. After the quarterback going down in Week one 656 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey and that's done him quitting on his 657 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: team and leaving. I would think they would think eight 658 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: and eight is just fine because at eight and eight 659 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: people aren't going to be calling for their job. But 660 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: if they go six and ten, so eight night is 661 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: really damn good. If you're Tom Coughlin, Dave Caldwell and 662 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Doug Maron completely disagree with eight night is just fine. 663 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: Now here's where it isn't good. If you're a team 664 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: that needs a huge infusion of talent, you're in the 665 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: middle of the pack in the draft. Eight nate is 666 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: far away from the impact players and it costs you 667 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: position um. But eight nate would be good for this 668 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: team this year considering everything they've been through. It wouldn't 669 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: be the playoffs. But if you are eight and nate, 670 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: you can get people excited because you finished strong. I 671 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: will say this the circling back to my point before 672 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: my Bernie would find Son's chomping the bit for hers um. 673 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: Eight and Nate is not as disastrous in terms of 674 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: the draft if you're not desperate for quarterback, so it's 675 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: not as much of a if your quarterback starved, which 676 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: we think right now this team is not eight eight 677 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: and eight is a disaster. If if you're not then 678 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden eight and night shows you that 679 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: you have the talent to add a few pieces and go. 680 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: So I think eight and eight for this team would 681 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: not be as disastrous as your point, which is correct. 682 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: I'll say eight and eight with key wins. You beat 683 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: the Titans again, you beat the Colts, you beat the 684 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: Chargers UM eight, and it would feel really good because 685 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: the two losses to the Texans just kind of stick 686 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: in your jaw. You know. It's ah, you should have 687 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: beat them at least once. You shouldn't be in this 688 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: position where you are owing two against them. But you 689 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta beat the Colts. You have to. You 690 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: have to separate yourself from the bottom of the division. 691 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: In other words, it's the haves and they have nots. 692 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: Right now, it's the Texans and the Colts that went 693 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: to Kansas City and one you got beat here, and 694 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: it's you and the Titans that have losing records, not 695 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: the Texans. In the Colts climb up into the upper 696 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: echelon of the a f C South, don't stay just 697 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: behind it. Here's where it gets interesting. The Texans have 698 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: kind of owned the jag Wars a little bit, and 699 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure why, but it's felt uncompetitive mostly 700 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: against them except for the Minshew game. That hasn't been 701 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: the take with the Colt with this team. Even last 702 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: year and the Colts were playing very very well, this 703 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: team played them well. So I think there's a matchup 704 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: deal where this team matches up pretty well. It's why 705 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: I think they can win in two weeks of falls. 706 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they shut him out here with luck and 707 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: up there. If it wasn't for that that dropped by 708 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: Green at the end of the game, they have a 709 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: chance to and it's always not lost. You're a positive 710 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: guy that I like it. I love life that you do. 711 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: That's because it's the bye we can you get to 712 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: leave soon. You're not fooling us. You have a hot take, 713 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: right I do. Okay, it's a little more focused than 714 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: you guys, a little more detailed. My Bernie Wood fire 715 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: Girl hot take is a j boy A proved he 716 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: is a number one corner on Sunday. That's because he 717 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: held DeAndre Hopkins to eight receptions forty eight yards in 718 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: one touchdown. A guy like that, that's pretty good. But 719 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: more so beyond the stats is I was watching them 720 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: the first two drives, and Boy was really frustrating Hopkins 721 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: to the point where he was going up to the 722 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: referee basically after every play and arguing with him about 723 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: how Boy was covering him. He was getting under his skin. 724 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: He was frustrating him a little like we've seen with 725 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: Jalen at times, but Boy was much more calm about it. 726 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: But he was getting to him. And I think that's 727 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: the first time I really saw Boy. That's ironic considering 728 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: every play Hopkins does this too. Yeah, yeah, well, no, 729 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: he was complaining a little bit and he was getting frustrated. 730 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: A couple of quick thoughts on that. First of all, 731 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: Boy has wanted the challenge of playing against DeAndre since 732 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: he came here. He got paid like a number one corner. 733 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: He always silently resented the fact that he never got 734 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: that opportunity because of Jalen. The second, was smiling as 735 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: he walked off the field because he knew he played 736 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: well against DeAndre. The one touchdown that Hopkins Scott was 737 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: late in the game. He was already decided. Hopkins made 738 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: the one play to set up the touchdown that made 739 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: it three um, but other than that, he didn't make 740 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: a meaningful play in the entire game. He had a 741 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: couple of first down plays there were decent, but it was, 742 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: like you said, what Hopkins did was within the context 743 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: of the offense where you where he scares you is 744 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: when he makes the plays that afterwards you're thinking, we 745 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: had great defense on that play, and still because a 746 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: J didn't let him do that. It was a really 747 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: impressive performance for a J boy. And the good thing 748 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: for him is, look, he's got a huge cap number 749 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: next year at fifteen and a half million dollars for him, 750 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: he now has a chance for his people because the 751 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: Dragonards are gonna want to look at that number. They're 752 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna want to make that a little bit more palatable 753 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: in their salary structure. Is the way they can talk 754 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: about an extension with him and making that number smaller 755 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: next year and giving him a couple more years. And 756 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: he's interesting because he had a tough year last year 757 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it was because of the injury, frustration, 758 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: et cetera. He wasn't really the same guy, if you know, 759 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: like he was I thought, a really incredible, we good 760 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: leader player, whatever, and he has in seventeen. It didn't 761 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: feel that way an eighteen for some reason, it feels 762 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: that way more now, so I sort of trust that 763 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: for him to be if they renegotiate for him to 764 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: be a quote unquote core guy moving forward. And I 765 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: don't need to explain anymore other than to say that 766 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey was a big reason why last year, why 767 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: they did not get along and why boy A just 768 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: sort of retreated from the media. He had other things 769 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: the injury. I think there were some things that he 770 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: was dealing with personal life last year, but he he 771 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: had the chance. Now, we all get a chance in life. 772 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: When the opportunity presents itself. The question is I have 773 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: never do we take advantage? Do we take advantage of that? 774 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: And he has taken advantage of the Ramsey stuff and 775 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: played well and on the biggest stage he had, which 776 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: is against Hopkins, who's the most difficult receiver in the 777 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: game to cover, he gave us his best performance. Congratulations 778 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: to a j boy for going out there and shining 779 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: when his star was called. It was impressive. Had they won, 780 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: he would have been on on a prime time that night. 781 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: And doing that mean it was that sort of performance 782 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: that was a season to find. She got an opportunity 783 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: to give the best of the hot tapes, and she 784 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: did that was the best true winner winner Chicken Dinner, 785 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: Chicken Dinner. Ain't that the truth? Oh wait, we're not 786 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: taking a break. I ruined my hot tape. All the 787 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: equity that you built up with that you had your 788 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: opportunity and do it all right, you're not getting Oh man, 789 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: let's visit ozone snapshots. Now that's a jam. All right, 790 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: Dan the man in Las Vegas? What do you got 791 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: for us? I guess we all know who was the 792 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: starting quarterback next game. Yeah, and we really haven't completely 793 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: touched on the fact that Maron really hasn't made his decision. 794 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: And I do believe. And a couple of hours he 795 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: speace the media, he's going to say that he's still 796 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: giving a time. I think that's the correct thing to do. 797 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: He's got time. I think I have any chance I'll 798 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: talk about this, but I'm assuming that his rationalities. Hey, 799 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: I have a chance to not make this an emotional decision. 800 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: I have a chance to not you know, to let 801 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: it breathe a little bit. I do think he will 802 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: give it time. I think he wants to be fair 803 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: to both. I think he wants to have the best 804 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: decision for the team right now. I don't think there's 805 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: any question and it will eventually become fold. But I 806 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: think when he says that this afternoon, a lot of 807 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: people will roll their eyes and say, oh, well, you 808 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: know he's just saying that. Knowing Doug, I really do 809 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: think that when he's gone away for the last couple 810 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: of days, he has tried not to think about it, 811 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: and that he will he will go through a process 812 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: that he believes we'll have him come to the right decision. 813 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: But yes, I do think we know with the quarterbacks. 814 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here tell you that I feel 815 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: like I know Doug Morone all that well, because every 816 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: time I think I know what he's gonna say, he 817 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: surprises me with a different answer. Uh. He is his 818 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: unconventional a coach as you might as you might ever encounter. 819 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: I think said. That's why he won't have made it. 820 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: That's why I'm trying to get a good Yeah, thank you. 821 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: I've said it before. Um, you know there are some coaches. 822 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: With Tom Coughlin, when he was the head coach, there 823 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: was a hard edge. You knew where the line was. 824 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: And Doug is more amiba like, meaning he changes it 825 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: from time to time based on the team, in the circumstances, 826 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: because he played in the league and he's been in 827 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: the locker room. Um. That being said, I would be 828 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: stunned because and I don't have any sense that Shod 829 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: has drawn a line you must win this many games. 830 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: But he said after last season that the status quo 831 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: five and eleven was not going to be good enough, 832 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: so there was some pressure coming into the season to win, 833 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: to do better. You're gambling, in my mind, if you 834 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 1: stay with the rookie sixth round pick. I think you're 835 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: playing with house money if you come in with Nick Foles. 836 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's why it's the best decision. It 837 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: is the most certain of outcomes to give you the 838 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: best chance to win. With all of that, though, I 839 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: don't think any of us expect to have an answer today. 840 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna take as much time as you can with 841 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: us because he doesn't have to write. Doug. Yeah, Doug 842 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: is not someone who ever wants to rush things. How 843 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: many times have you sat next to him over there 844 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: on a Friday and asked him about this, that or 845 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: the other thing, And because well, I'm not even there yet, 846 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: I'm just focused on the best practice, right, and we 847 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: would think, oh, he definitely have a decision. But absolutely, 848 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: because that's what conventional wisdom tells you the football coaches do. 849 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: That's not Doug in any way, shape or form. He's alone, Wolf, 850 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: he is, he is, And there are by the way, 851 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: there are no different degrees of unique. You're not kind 852 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: of unique or very unique or sort of unique. You're 853 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: either unique or you're not. And Doug Marone is unique, 854 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: at least in my experience of head coaches that he is. John, 855 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 1: you're unique too, You're in the same different reasons. All right, Arthur, 856 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: what do you got? Do we not have a potential 857 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback anymore? Well? I wouldn't try to answer this 858 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: when when I was trying to write it, so I 859 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: put it over here because iliday to answer. Um. You know, 860 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 1: I think we've thrown the term around franchise quarterbacks so 861 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: much that people sort of get lost in the definition. 862 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if Gardner Minshew is going to be 863 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback in a Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Drew 864 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: Brees define your franchise right. So I don't know that, Um, 865 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: but I do think what he has shown is You've 866 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: got a guy who is an asset to you for 867 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: a long time, a guy who, if falls goes down, 868 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: you trust, and a guy who I don't believe that 869 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: they think we have to go out and solve our 870 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: quarterback future now in this next draft. So I do 871 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: think there is still a potential franchise quarterback on the roster, 872 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: and I think when he gets his next opportunity, it 873 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: will be up to him to show that he has 874 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: learned from the things that he needs to learn with 875 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: and continue to take the step forward that all franchise 876 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have to make. So I guess the answer the 877 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: question is yes, there's still is a potential franchise quarterback 878 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: on the roster. It remains to be seen if he 879 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: indeed is a franchise quarterback. Well, you just answered it 880 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: right there that Reeves. Can you put Arthur's question back 881 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: up real quick? And that one word potential makes me 882 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: say yes, because he potentially is. He has uncanny, an 883 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: uncanny sense in the pocket of where his guys should be. 884 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: Go back to the touchdown that he threw in um 885 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: in Denver, right, and he had a first down doing 886 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: the same thing in this game against Houston. He's got poise, 887 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: he's got mobility, he's got awareness, he's he's got a 888 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: lot of things. He does not have the big arm, 889 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: which is why he sank to the sixth round, but 890 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of things that make you think, well, 891 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: he could be along the lines of a Drew Brees 892 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of passer who's so smart and understands what's going 893 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: on around him that he's hyper effective in the offense 894 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: that they build around him. So the word potential makes 895 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: me say, yeah, there's one on the roster. I think 896 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: a big thing Showice that he could be. I'm sorry, Brian, 897 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: I think I think a big thing. He's got to 898 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: do the the asset that you talked about, his ability 899 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: to extend. I think they have to find a balance 900 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: for that because in the last couple of games. Uh, 901 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: he had clean pockets. In this last game and got 902 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: a little booked, a little dancy with it. You have 903 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: to balance that and that can be a process. He 904 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: improved a lot in that process. I think I took 905 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: a step back in this last game. But you can't 906 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: have put your foot in the ground and immediately be 907 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: looking around every time. It's got to be balanced. When 908 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: that clip of the jeft did yesterday with patent Dave 909 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: comes up, you'll see him. It's like he's looking at 910 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: Connolly and he didn't trust it right right, and decides 911 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: a better run and go do something else. That's the 912 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: kind of confidence that comes with just more experience in 913 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I think you'll see that from him, 914 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: which is why again, I absolutely think he has the 915 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 1: potential to be your franchise quarterback, which is why I'm 916 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: so comfortable putting him on the shelf and going back 917 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: to Nick now because I know I saw enough from 918 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: him in eight games, eight and a half whatever it 919 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: was to feel like, okay, I cant all of that. 920 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Chris from Mandarin to wrap 921 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: it up. The season is over. There's no coming back 922 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: from this one. Technically there are seven games left. But 923 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 1: it's the nail in the coffin. Well, I get that's 924 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: how it feels now, and I said, must win. All 925 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: talked about um, but it's a nail in the coffin. 926 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: If they win the next two weeks, how you feel 927 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: no nails in the coffin? So that's really the you 928 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: know it, It was huge because I'm with you, Brian. Realistically, 929 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: eight and eight feels like a thing that could and 930 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: likely will happen unless balls catches magic. But if you 931 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: win the next two we're talking about the next one 932 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: is it must win. So it's not really technically the nail. 933 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: This is a better team than it was last year, 934 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: and and people might be disappointed with eight and eight, 935 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: but you should never be disappointed with consistent improvement, which 936 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 1: is what we've seen, and that've identified some young players 937 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: guys like Davin Bryan don't talk about all that much, 938 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: who played pretty well on Sunday. Um, there's every reason 939 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: to be excited if you finish eight and eight, even 940 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: though people will be disappointed because it's all or nothing 941 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: in our sports culture these days. I um I said earlier, 942 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing this team make the playoffs. 943 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: But they were four and seven in which ends up 944 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: still being the golden season around here. Four and seven 945 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: and they cut Andre Risen and the locker room. You 946 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: remember that day felt like it was a morgue, right, 947 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it just felt like this whole thing was 948 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 1: going down, and they rallied off seven consecutive wins, including 949 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: playoff wins in Rich Stadium where they had never lost, 950 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: and against the Broncos team that should, by all rights 951 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: have been a three time the only three time Super 952 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: Bowl champion. Uh and they knocked them off. So you 953 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: never say it's over at four and five. I could 954 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: never say that. But circumstantially your two games behind the Texans, 955 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: and the Texans and Colts both look based on their 956 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: wins in Kansas City like teams that can make a 957 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: late playoff run. Um, and you still look inconsistent. But 958 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: eight and eight after the Nick Foles injury and opening 959 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: Day and Jalen Ramsey quitting on his team, which is 960 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 1: what he did, um to get there. What an epic 961 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: job by Doug Maron and his coaching staff to get 962 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: the most out of a team and a rookie sixth 963 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 1: round pick who had no business doing what he did. Um. 964 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: So the spirit of the question to me feels off, 965 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: even if it isn't realistic that they end up making 966 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: a playoff run. We'll see, all right when we come back. 967 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 1: We wrap up the show with some NFL headlines here 968 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:43,720 Speaker 1: on Jaggstrip times. When you hear think Duval Motor Company, 969 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: a proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Duval is the 970 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: home of the real dear no hide, no gimmicks, no haggle, 971 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: just a real, fast, real friendly experience Online and at 972 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: the dealership. 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All right, here we go, and we'll start 1021 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: with dodging a bullet, because that is what it appears 1022 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts have done. It look tough. Way is 1023 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,760 Speaker 1: to at the season when Andrew Luck retires, Jacoby precent 1024 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: has been a bit of a revelation if there is 1025 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: such a thing as a bit of a revelation. Let's 1026 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: call him a revelation for the Colts. He's played so 1027 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: well this season. Sunday guard Quentin Nelson. How often is 1028 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: it that he's thrown into anyone? But was thrown into 1029 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: his knee. He had a noticeable limp as he left 1030 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 1: the field. Has an mc l ish injury. UM. Frank 1031 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: Reich was trying to downplay the issue, um and and 1032 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,720 Speaker 1: give him more time. They play this week. They've already 1033 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: had their by we'll see if he's ready to go 1034 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: and if he's healthy. Thell know more later this week. 1035 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: But that's an injury that bears watching. Here's a big 1036 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: one that bears watching, and it's in Los Angeles where 1037 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks again, one of those players that they traded 1038 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 1: a first round pick four and gave a huge contract 1039 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: fifty million guaranteed dollars. He's had two concussions in the 1040 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: last four weeks and that's five now since when he 1041 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: was a young player with New Orleans. He's seeing specialists 1042 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: the Colts coaching staff downplaying his ability to play. They're 1043 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: worried about his health. It's things like this where you 1044 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: have a player who can't continue to play on a 1045 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,879 Speaker 1: contract that debilitates their salary cap, and there's no first 1046 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: round pick to replace this kind of talent because Brandon 1047 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: Cooks is a massive talent. Watch the situation in l 1048 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 1: n l A. UM. You know there's a couple of players. 1049 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: They've got Jared Goff and Todd Gurley who's not completely healthy, 1050 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,359 Speaker 1: now Brandon Cooks who's not completely healthy. They've got um 1051 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: who am I missing? Aaron Donald's big contract and he 1052 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: is healthy, and Jalen Ramsey who wants a big contract. 1053 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: The situation in l A can unravel quickly. I hear 1054 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 1: they're having trouble selling tickets as it is. They went 1055 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: for the big splash because the new stadium opens next year. 1056 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: The Brandon Cook's injury could portend their offenses ability to 1057 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: score points this second half of the season. It's worth 1058 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: watching because Jaguars fans would like to see them be 1059 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 1: closer to eight and eight uh and give them again 1060 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: a good first round pick. The Rams situation was always 1061 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: a little weird because they came in and they were good, 1062 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: and they knew they were okay, and they really went 1063 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: for it because as Sam Farmer from the L A times. 1064 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: Who's been on this show a couple of times. Uh, 1065 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: he covered the whole thing. He's as in tune to 1066 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: Los Angeles as there is. He told me early last season, 1067 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: when I spoke to maybe a couple of seasons ago. 1068 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 1: L A is not going to go watching an average team, 1069 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: and the Rams knew that, so they have gone overboard 1070 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: trying to put a star studded, big time team on 1071 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: the field. Uh. It always felt like, how can they 1072 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: do this when nobody else can? Kind of thing with 1073 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: some of their moves, So you wonder what happens if 1074 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: they're not star studded, and all of a sudden they 1075 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: had this new stadium. I'm not saying they can't do it, 1076 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: but Brian's right. It's interesting to watch because they really 1077 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: went after it in a market where historically, if you're average, 1078 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: you get lost, and that's why they haven't had a 1079 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: team there a long time. Golf got the big deal. 1080 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, he looks Bortles ask like 1081 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: he can't function above the excess and ohs he needs 1082 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: the players around him to all be there. Uh, Girly's knee. 1083 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: He's got some more thorist issues, obviously, that's coming up, 1084 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: which is too bad because a great player, great player, Yeah, 1085 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's you could have the worst case scenario 1086 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 1: for those guys out there, and then even worse, they're 1087 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: opening a five billion dollar complex on the West coast 1088 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: that could be half empty. Oh uh, final one will 1089 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: stay on the West coast and is the third time 1090 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: the charm for Josh Gordon. You know, he was available 1091 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: to everybody after the New England Patriots released him, and 1092 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 1: the Seahawks John Schneider, the general manager, said we we 1093 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 1: didn't think we'd have shot at him at in the 1094 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: pecking order they grabbed him. We're talking about an extreme 1095 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 1: talent who has had extreme issues with substance abuse. However, 1096 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: he is eligible to play. So you're gonna put him 1097 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson, who threw five touchdown passes last week 1098 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: and it come from behind win over the Buccaneers. And 1099 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: DK metcalf who is having, whether everyone realizes this or not, 1100 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,720 Speaker 1: a Randy Moss esque season, leading the league at eighteen 1101 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: point one yards per catch, has five touchdowns already. So 1102 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: now you're gonna put this guy out there with Tyler Lockett, 1103 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: Gordon Metcalfe Lockett Wilson. Yeah, and they played Monday night 1104 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: football against San Francisco and Gordon is probably going to play. 1105 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: And remember Gordon got hot late last year before he 1106 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 1: had his issue, and and Tom Brady was thrown at 1107 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,439 Speaker 1: him all over the place. I don't know, you can't 1108 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: trust it, but boy, it could be fun for the Seahawks. Yeah, 1109 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 1: it just seems to never quite work, and it feels 1110 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: like it may never work out for the long haul. 1111 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: And and I hate to say, because I don't know 1112 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 1: the guy and I don't know enough about his story 1113 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: from an inside point of view to comment like that, 1114 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: but he maybe when he was going right in Cleveland 1115 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,399 Speaker 1: for the one year that he really had a going 1116 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,399 Speaker 1: he was as good as any receiver has been over 1117 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 1: the last ten years in twelve yards against the Jaguars 1118 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: that day. I'll never forget that. And that was common 1119 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: no that season for him. He had dods receiving that. Yeah. 1120 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 1: So here's the thing I like, make time. Here's the 1121 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: thing I like because I'm a forgiveness guy. I believe 1122 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: that guys deserve to be forgiven if their mistakes are 1123 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 1: not catastrophic. That's what Pete Carroll has done. He did 1124 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 1: it with Marshawn Lanche, he did with Frank Clark, he 1125 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: did it with Percy Harvin, who have eventually worked his 1126 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 1: way up and then out of the league. But he's 1127 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: given guys opportunities and they have, for the most part, 1128 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: rewarded him by their performance on the field. I just 1129 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: I remember Gordon from that two thousand and twelve season 1130 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 1: and he was epic. And I've been watching DK Metcalf 1131 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: because he was such an intriguing prospect last spring. And 1132 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: then Russell Wilson just it just continues to boggle the 1133 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: mind how good he is. Twenty two touchdowns, one interception, 1134 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: epic stuff. Could be fun to watch Seattle in San 1135 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: Francisco on Monday night next week. Yeah, you could say that, 1136 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: all right, And that is our show Tuesday Jaguars Drive 1137 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 1: Time before we say goodbye for the bye week. We 1138 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 1: have Jaguars Drive Time tomorrow as well as Happy Hour. 1139 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: We will see you here.