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Speaker 1: What's going on. Welcome back to refresh. This is Jake

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Speaker 1: Hoefer and we have a great episode here for you guys.

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Speaker 2: We have Aaron Blasey from Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Who connected on a big buck during the October ul

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Speaker 1: You get to hear the whole story and progression and

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Speaker 1: game plan on how we pull that together. We have

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Speaker 1: Christian Babcock from Texas who's also hunting in Oklahoma. We

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Speaker 1: have Benny Schuman from Minnesota who's actually.

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Speaker 2: Packing his bags and headed to Illinois.

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Speaker 1: So we are at the time of year now where

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Speaker 1: things are going to get more exciting. The opportunity is

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Speaker 1: likely going to increase. This is a very special window.

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Speaker 1: You've been sitting on the sidelines to feel like you're

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Speaker 1: behind the eight ball. Things are likely going to start

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Speaker 1: bouncing in your favor. There's a lot of change that

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Speaker 1: is going to happen over these seven days. There's going

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Speaker 1: to be a lot of sign that is laid down.

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Speaker 1: If we get a cold front. We're recording this a

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Speaker 1: little bit early, but if the weather cooperates and you

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to potentially shoot a buck before things

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Speaker 1: go completely haywire in the month of November, there's a

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Speaker 1: really good chance you're going to have a big deer

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Speaker 1: show up this week on a scrape entre camera. So

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Speaker 1: grit down. This is going to be an exciting week

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Speaker 1: from here on out, it's gonna get a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoyed this week's episode of

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Speaker 1: Rough Fresh. As you know, Roughresh is brought to you

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Speaker 1: here in the US. We are going to kick things

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Speaker 1: off here with Aaron Blyse is a little bit longer

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Speaker 1: interview because there's a lot of good information that I

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Speaker 1: think will help you guys as you developed a plan

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Speaker 1: for the next seven days.

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 1: Here's Aaron Blyseie all right, First up on the line,

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Speaker 1: we have Aaron Blisee. Aaron always finds a lot of

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Speaker 1: success in the month of October, in the October little

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Speaker 1: when everyone else struggles. Everyone else is saying that deer

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Speaker 1: aren't moving, it's too hard. I'm just gonna sit on

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Speaker 1: the couch and watch football. You over the last few years,

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Speaker 1: it's like October is your time to shine.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the deal is, I guess. I well,

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Speaker 3: first of all, thanks for having me on, Jake. I

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Speaker 3: appreciate it and getting to catch up with you and everything.

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Speaker 3: But I will say, you know, since twenty twenty one

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Speaker 3: October thirteenth, that's kind of been my day, I guess.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I really feel like that like quote

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Speaker 3: unquote October lull the last I would say, probably the

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Speaker 3: last five. You know, about five years ago I started

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Speaker 3: looking into like my cameras really started having deer like

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Speaker 3: good bucks that I'm looking for daylight on scrapes. It

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Speaker 3: seems like it seems like in that timeframe even this

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Speaker 3: year with the deer I did kill just a couple

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Speaker 3: of days ago that he like he has a running

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Speaker 3: this timeframe, a flip switches. He's opening scrapes and he

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Speaker 3: doesn't have a running mate with him, so it's like

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Speaker 3: he's almost starting to put you know, they're starting to

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Speaker 3: feel a type of way I feel like, and you're

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Speaker 3: starting to get these deer almost like in a sense

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Speaker 3: of like how the later October is like they're starting

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Speaker 2: Daylight a little bit more that's what I see.

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Speaker 3: And I've been able to capitalize a couple of years,

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Speaker 3: three different times, you know, in the last couple of

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Speaker 2: Type of deal.

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Speaker 3: But the window is really small, like I'm saying two

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Speaker 3: three days. It seems like, you know, later October could

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Speaker 2: Be a little bigger. But this is like a real

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Speaker 3: And if you can get in there and get the

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Speaker 3: times in it the stars can align.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to dive into that because I think

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Speaker 1: if if the window is only three days, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the later part of October, we want to try

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Speaker 1: to help everyone capitalize on that. But before we get

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Speaker 1: into this, I've been torturing all the guests with the

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Speaker 1: trivia questions, So yours is going to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit different here. So Michigan Pennsylvania, right, those are two

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you how many of each.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's a great question. Boy, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Michigan. With gun hunters, Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: and eighty nine thousand gun hunters in the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: There's five hundred and seventy nine thousand, So I mean,

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Speaker 2: Of an amount, but so many people.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and ten thousand hunter delta between the two

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Speaker 1: for bow hunters, who has more Michigan or Pennsylvania. Knowing

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Speaker 3: My gosh, I think I'm gonna stay with Michigan. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, you are correct. There's three hundred and twenty two

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Speaker 3: You know, and it's like I even think about Iowa too, like,

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Speaker 2: There's such rich tradition there.

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Speaker 3: I love to see it, you know, I really do,

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Speaker 2: Let's just I'll.

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Speaker 1: Flip over here, let me find it really quickly. Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: Have the full spreadsheet of all of them, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you seem to be very methodical with that approach. So

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Speaker 1: kind of what made you key in on what was

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Speaker 1: the feature that you set up? I mean this kind

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Speaker 1: and bolts of how it came together. Yeah, so real quick,

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Speaker 2: You know. I felt he was a really good two

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Speaker 3: I felt just had a lot of promise, but I

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Speaker 2: Have to hunt this year on any farm in Michigan.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, well, I'm gonna put a lot of

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Speaker 3: I hunted him seven times. It's the only farm I've

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Speaker 3: And every time I seen him, he was just like

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Speaker 3: think the biggest common denominator. We had a huge acorn

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Speaker 3: that's kind of what I what I kind of honed.

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Speaker 2: In on there.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean that was the biggest thing, being

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Speaker 3: methodically just kind of like go in when I'm be

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Speaker 2: None of that's hard for me, but really be patient.

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Speaker 2: And it really paid off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you hunted seven times, he's seen him five times,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it sounds like there were semi close encounters.

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Speaker 1: What was he feeding in that green food source adjacent

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Speaker 1: to the grain or do you think he was betted

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Speaker 1: in the corn or betted on a ditch or a hedgerow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So actually night number one, I went in and I

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Speaker 3: Basically before I snuck out, And actually I didn't walk

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Speaker 3: Well, it was perfect to be able to It's like

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Speaker 2: So it was like, really really nice to be able

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Speaker 3: at this year tonight, I'm okay with that because I've

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Speaker 3: You know, before I probably would have forced something, and

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Speaker 2: It's darker in the blind. You know that you're playing

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Speaker 3: And so I waited probably five six minutes, and he

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Speaker 3: And he got to a point where I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I had a scrape tree right there. He was just

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Speaker 3: But I will say three, I think it was three

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Speaker 2: He had a running mate with him. Well, he slowly

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Speaker 3: And the morning that I shot him, I finally got

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Speaker 3: He came into a scrape that hadn't been open and

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Speaker 3: he gets to a point he's you know, fully broadside

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of brilliant key lessons there.

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Speaker 1: One of them is not not forcing it, and you know,

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Speaker 1: that's something that a lot of people should have in

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Speaker 2: And the other one is not having a rigid plan

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Speaker 1: that is rigid. That is the rules, and I don't

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Speaker 1: play an audible, which seemed to, you know, play into

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say that one night that I there's

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, I can't go through the plot now,

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Speaker 3: I have to go by where he was. It started

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Speaker 3: Tormentiscus too, some hobbling everywhere, and I'm like, so I

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Speaker 3: I looked like a wet bear.

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Speaker 2: Like I am just.

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Speaker 3: Stopping wet, you know. And I'm like, this is what

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Speaker 3: I'm like Okay, that really it was a light bulb.

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Speaker 2: Thing that really that really worked.

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Speaker 3: And on a deer like that, you know, I think

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Speaker 3: I want to say, going in that night there was

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Speaker 2: It took me. I had to go about three hundred yards.

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Speaker 3: It took me forty minutes to go three hundred yards

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Speaker 2: So that ended up working as well. That's a really

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Speaker 1: So it's October twenty second now, and you already have

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Speaker 1: I guess the approach is probably somewhat similar. So October

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Speaker 1: get going. So what are you specifically most excited about

442
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,399
Speaker 1: or what are you keen in on. Obviously it's an

443
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,119
Speaker 1: out of state hunt, so your style might be a

444
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,760
Speaker 1: little bit different. But what has he fired up here

445
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,199
Speaker 1: for the next seven days other than the dates and

446
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,439
Speaker 1: other being in Iowa too.

447
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you nailed both of them. The dates are

448
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 2: really good and we're in Iowa.

449
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: So what's really got me excited about it is, actually

450
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 3: is this farm.

451
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 2: I've never set foot on it.

452
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,199
Speaker 3: I was going to go out and scout at this spring,

453
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 3: but I did, and I have a buddy that lives

454
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,439
Speaker 3: there that kind of helped me out or actually not

455
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 3: kind of helped me out a lot with this. I

456
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 3: sent cameras out to him. The cameras have all died.

457
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 3: Like I am literally going into this with a clean state.

458
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 3: That is the exciting part to me, because I don't

459
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 3: I almost wish I didn't set cameras out there because

460
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 3: I don't want to be like that mental state of like,

461
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 3: oh there's nothing to hunt, or I want like so

462
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 3: I have no idea my plan for the next seven

463
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 3: days is the weather.

464
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: The Red Moon is hitting on.

465
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 3: I think the twenty third or twenty four, so that

466
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 3: is both of my Iowa trips that I've planned this

467
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,959
Speaker 3: year are around the Red Moon. It's the first time

468
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 3: I've ever done that. And the weather, we're looking at

469
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 3: mid to upper sixties as a high and then we're

470
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 3: looking at mid forties to low fifties as a low.

471
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 3: So I don't mind the weather. It could be a

472
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 3: lot worse. We could be in eighties and sixties in

473
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 3: as a low. I don't mind the weather at all.

474
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: My plan is to hunt, you know, like I normally

475
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: would end of October and you nailed it the scrapes.

476
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 3: My plan is to get there and do speed tour,

477
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 3: just kind of a delicate speed tour, find as many

478
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 3: scrapes as I can. I might even do some mock scrapes,

479
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna deploy cameras. The cameras need to be moved,

480
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: and I want to get an inventory. And honestly, my

481
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 3: next trip is planned for the fourth of November, so

482
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 3: I'm kind of using this trip as like gearing up

483
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 3: for that rot trip to see what deer here.

484
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: All the deer I think have should have moved on.

485
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: The corn just got cut the other day, so three

486
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 3: acres of corn was left as well. So we're gonna

487
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 3: be dealing with like something really exciting. No, And my

488
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 3: favorite thing about it is there's never been no pressure

489
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: on this farm. That is like my mo I don't

490
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 3: like to have pressure on it. So I'm gonna push

491
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 3: in a little bit, find as many many scrapes as

492
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: I can, start putting cameras out, start doing some observation sets,

493
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 3: and then once I see that deer, I'm gonna move in.

494
00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: That's my plan.

495
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: Like I said, the red moon, the moon phase, everything

496
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: is lining up. The weather is going to be good

497
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 3: enough in the dates are going to be awesome. So

498
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: I am taking a decoy with me. I don't know

499
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: if I'm going to deploy that end of October. I

500
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 3: think the grunner in the rattling antlers could be a

501
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: true benefit. This is a farm that is a big

502
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 3: seedar thicket and there's not a lot of timber around it,

503
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 3: so longlining deer. Long lining is a true thing in

504
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: this time of year because they're going to be trying

505
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 3: to find that first you know dough that comes into heat.

506
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance that I might pick

507
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 3: up bucks that I you know, normally wouldn't pick up

508
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: in this timeframe, and you got a little window when

509
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 3: they're there, They're going to be there.

510
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 2: So I'm ready to jump on that.

511
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: So for someone that does not pay attention to the

512
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: red Moon, that's me. What does that mean? Like so like, okay,

513
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: it's the peak of the red moon and this is

514
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: the peak activity does a change where you sit or

515
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: set up? Because I know there's I know just enough

516
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: to ask this question, and that's where it ends, like

517
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: because I know there's like feeding time, Like what does

518
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: it mean?

519
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: Uh? And how is it impacting your strategy?

520
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I will say, like it's just it doesn't

521
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: really impact it a ton as far as uh, I'm

522
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: not saying like all the red Moon's here, like I'm

523
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 3: gonna kill a big one tonight. Like it's just one

524
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: of those tools like you still like have to play

525
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: the wind, you have to do all the things. It's

526
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: just another factor to be able to put into the

527
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: equation that like that pressure is building. So the red

528
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: Moon in a nutshell is just when you know, I'm

529
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 3: not great with it either, but the you know, the

530
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: under undertoe and the overhead of you know, the moon

531
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: and everything lining up and the pressure is the greatest.

532
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: You know, it's the you know, that's what moves the

533
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: tides and everything in the oceans and stuff.

534
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: So it's got a big pulling factor.

535
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 3: And you know, as I look at as I look

536
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: at the dates right now, like we're looking at the

537
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: twenty fourth, like the peak time is you know, the

538
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: first day is three for so the peak pressure, the

539
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: peak time where the deer it could help get the

540
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: deer get up and moving is isn't a good time.

541
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 3: And I'm like I said, I like the red moon.

542
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: I think I've killed like sixty two percent of my

543
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: bucks on a red moon. So I feel like that's

544
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: a pretty good number in the white tail world. So

545
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: in I don't think it'll Jake, I really don't think

546
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 3: it'll change what I do. It's just happening as I'm there,

547
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm still gonna I'm not

548
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 3: gonna be like, oh, it's a you know, it's saying

549
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: to do be on a field edge, So I better

550
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: go on a field edge.

551
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm gonna read the farm and read the deer.

552
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: Still It's just one of those things that just like, hey,

553
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 3: he might get up a little earlier. And I will

554
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: say the Red Moon on this deer that I killed

555
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: the first night of the Red Moon on the ninth,

556
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 3: I encountered him.

557
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: The peak.

558
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: The peak time was, I want to say it was

559
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: four fifteen. He showed up at four o'clock in the

560
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: afternoon on the night.

561
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: So it's like your Eastern time, Yeah, Eastern times down

562
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: there for folks too.

563
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

564
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: So I had just got in the gotten the blind

565
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 3: and he showed it up. I'm like, oh my gosh,

566
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: like we got four hours until dark, and like here

567
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: he is.

568
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: You know. So I do put a little validity in it,

569
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: but it's not the end all, be all factor for me.

570
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me run a quick scenario pass you that

571
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be relatable to a lot of folks.

572
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: You get a picture of a big deer that you

573
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: haven't seen before, and maybe your cameras are dead, or

574
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: maybe you put him out late, or maybe it's a

575
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: new one that just showed up.

576
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: You don't know.

577
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: This is deer that just showed up on a scrape.

578
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: It was eleven o'clock a night it was one o'clock

579
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: in the morning. You know, what what would be your

580
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: next two or three day strategy if and when that

581
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: happens on the Let's say it's the twenty second or

582
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: the twenty third, when you get that first picture on

583
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: a scrape, you're like, I want to kill.

584
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: Him, and it's after dark, that's what you're saying. It's

585
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: not daylight. Not daylight.

586
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: I would, I would for sure, you know, knowing he's

587
00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 3: in the area.

588
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of factors going to that.

589
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: Do I have any other dar on camera too that

590
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm chasing or any of those daylighting you know, Honestly,

591
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: I don't know if it would change much of what

592
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing.

593
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: Depending on the time.

594
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: If he's just after, you know, shooting hour or shooting

595
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: light or just before, that might change something, but I

596
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 3: would probably just honestly, I need more information than that personally.

597
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: I need I need.

598
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: I need some different data points I need If he's

599
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: just on one camera, I need some more, Like I

600
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 3: need to know that he's roaming the farm. If he's

601
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 3: just kind of showing up, I'm just gonna kind of

602
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: keep playing my playbook and maybe I'll catch him on

603
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: his feet or maybe catch him on another camera daylighting

604
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: or something like that. It probably wouldn't change too much.

605
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: I would just keep running everything that I thought would

606
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: be working, and then kind of I don't want to

607
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: say hope, but just kind of stay in the game

608
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: because if he's there, that's all I need to know.

609
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: If he's there.

610
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: Before years ago, if I had a night a night picture,

611
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: I'd be so down in the dumps, like, man, he's

612
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: not coming to night.

613
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: I really don't care anymore.

614
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 3: Even at that time of year or even early season,

615
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: like the year that I just killed in Michigan, I

616
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 3: don't have a ton of daylight pictures him. This year,

617
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: I actually had more eye sightings of him than I

618
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: do have pictures. He just was never on camera. Yeah,

619
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: but I encountered him way more. So, you know, I

620
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 3: really feel like the daylight or night, I just need

621
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 3: to know he's there, and then I'm going to kind

622
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: of work back from there and just kind of have

623
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: my instincts take over and just keep running the plays

624
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: that I know I like it.

625
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: So, okay, next next seven days, October twenty second of

626
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth ten being this is the best week

627
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: of the entire season. For opportunity, one being this is

628
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: the worst week of the entire season.

629
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 2: Where are you gonna put it with right now?

630
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: Where the where the weather is, how the moon's lining up,

631
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: and the state and the area I'm going to.

632
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we're putting it. We're putting it. We're like

633
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: a nine to two right now, we're going we're going high.

634
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: Like I'm putting a lot of I'm putting a lot

635
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 3: of emphasis on this trip because you know, just as

636
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: well as I do, when when that calendar flips November,

637
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: the shackles are off and you have no idea, you

638
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: can get into that lockdown sphase.

639
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: You can get down where deer just blown by you

640
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: at eighty mile an hour and you're like, what the heck?

641
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, I'm putting a lot of pressure,

642
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: not pressure, but a lot of validity on this.

643
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: Trip to to see the biggest year in the area.

644
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: And that's that's kind where we're at.

645
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, semi controlled environment, great, great opportunity. Encourage everyone to

646
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: go out there and make the most out of it.

647
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: And good luck in Iowa. Congratulations once again on your

648
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Michigan buck If someone if are you did you film

649
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: that hunter is there any opportunity with people.

650
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so where will be Where will people be able

651
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: to watch that?

652
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: So it'll be like next year probably on our Grit

653
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: series for Latitude the Grit there and then probably after

654
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: that gets then I'll have it on my YouTube channel,

655
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: the Fault podcast tube channel eventually, but that nobody will

656
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: probably be able to see it until next year.

657
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's filmed and we're good to go.

658
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, I.

659
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: Appreciate you giving me the opportunity to come on here

660
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: and talk a little bit. I'm no expert by any means,

661
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: but i do like to talk.

662
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: So you have the light right line of work.

663
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, awesome, Eron, Thank you so much.

664
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: Congratulations once again, thank you, Jake.

665
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: All right, next up on the line, we have Christian

666
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: Babcock from Texas and Oklahoma, mainly hunting Texas right now,

667
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: but we got it. We have representation from what would

668
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: you what would you consider Texas and Oklahoma the South,

669
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: the Plain States, the South Plains, the South desert. Yeah,

670
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: it feels like a desert about ninety percent of the year.

671
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: But I'd say we'll just call it at the South.

672
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: I'll identify with the Southern hunter some rep Okay, all right,

673
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: so from the South, and have we been kicking off

674
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: a trivia question or a fun fact for the state

675
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: that the folk is joining us from. I'm going to

676
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: tell you the amount of total deer that were harvested

677
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: in the state of Texas last year, and you're going

678
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: to have to guess how many of them were archery,

679
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: so you can give it and it's in the number

680
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: of thousands. It could be tens of thousands, could be

681
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands. There was eight hundred and thirty seven

682
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: thousand deer tagged in the state of Texas in twenty

683
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: twenty four. How many of them were archery bucks or

684
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: archery deer? Excuse me, archery deer? How many archery out

685
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: of eight hundred and thirty seven thousand, man, we have

686
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: like a two week or a two month long rifle season,

687
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: so I'm going to say the majority of them were

688
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: probably rifle. I'm going to say like one hundred and

689
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: fifty thousand or archery.

690
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: That's that's pretty darn good.

691
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: Seventy five thousand, So seventy five thousand, seven hundred and

692
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: sixty one thousand deer were shot with a firearm.

693
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: In the state of Texas.

694
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: So bow hunting is a pretty small minority in Texas,

695
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: or at least that's what it looks like.

696
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

697
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: When you can rifle hunt the majority of this season,

698
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: it's like put that struggle stick away and let's do

699
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: some let's do some gun hunting.

700
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: So that's how people are done here. I like it.

701
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: So what.

702
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Have you been seeing down there in Texas with some

703
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: of your hunts here recently? Yeah, so I've been hunting.

704
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: I've been hunting five times since the beginning of October

705
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: when our season opened, I think it opened actually the

706
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: in there of September. But pretty slow movement overall. I've

707
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: been hunting some travel corridors, throwing up a bunch of

708
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: mock scrapes, and I've been averaging like three to five

709
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: deer sit right there at the end, primarily hunting evenings

710
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: right there at the last fifteen minutes of light.

711
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: So not a ton of movement.

712
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: I know, we had a really really good acorn crop

713
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 1: and there was a bunch of good brows, so I

714
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: haven't been seeing a whole lot of movement from that perspective.

715
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: But I went out on Wednesday saw five doughs a

716
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: in a bobcat. So any set that you're not getting

717
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: an absolute goose egg this time of the year when

718
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: it's ninety.

719
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: Three degrees is a really good set.

720
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: The rainfall this summer, was it above average? Below average?

721
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: Not sure? I would say it was above average until

722
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: the last part of the of the of the summer,

723
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: like the end part of the summer, and we haven't

724
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: had rain here and it feels like over a month,

725
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: so it's been pretty dry as of late. But man,

726
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: in the spring, in that early part of the summer

727
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: where we're getting a ton of rain, so I thought

728
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great antler season. And I've got

729
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: several really good bucks down here, so I think the

730
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: antlers grew really well.

731
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: It's just got pretty dry the end of the summer. Yeah, well, we're.

732
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Getting into the exciting time of October deer season. This

733
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: is when everyone starts to get really excited and you

734
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: know it's October twenty second. What for the next seven days?

735
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: What are you kind of looking at potentially as far

736
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: as where you're sitting and what are you keen in on.

737
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Are you looking for scrapes, are you looking for a

738
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: specific food source. Are you looking for those two things

739
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: in tandem. What's on your what's on your game plan?

740
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: Because it's you know, late October, and this is the

741
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: time when it's it's getting more exciting by the day,

742
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: like we're getting to the part of the season where

743
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: it's going to get better and better and better and

744
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: better for quite some period of time. So breed some optimism.

745
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: The unders that have been struggling throughout them month of October, well,

746
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: if they still can afford their water bill because all

747
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: the laundry detergent they spent in the first half of October.

748
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: With all the heat, I mean, we're still looking at,

749
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, some temperatures in the nineties for the highs,

750
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: so but I'm seeing some shifting down towards the low

751
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: eighties and then we're you know, looking at fifties in

752
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: the mornings. So that that's you know, that last week

753
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: of October. I'm really looking at those really cold days

754
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: where it's a you know, where it's shifting downwards. I'm

755
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: monitoring a bunch of spots with mock scrapes, and I'm

756
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: seeing more and more bucks hitting those towards the end

757
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: of daylight hours. Huge typically in the evenings. But I'm

758
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: trying to still get them between bed and food right now,

759
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: but giving them a reason to stop alongside where I'm at,

760
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: which is usually a mock scrape. So I'm getting pretty

761
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: tight to bedding as they're laying more and more signed down,

762
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: especially the rubs and scrapes.

763
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm keying in on that.

764
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: And then one spot in particular, I just saw a

765
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: farmer end up playing in a winter wheat field, so

766
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: I was pretty happy about that. But you know, we're

767
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: hunting in the south here, so there's a lot of

768
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: corn on every property line, and if you can get

769
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: in between some of that, find some good sign, maybe

770
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: lay down your own mock scrape. I think as we

771
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: start to trend to the lows and in the fifties,

772
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: we're going to see some really, really good deer activity.

773
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: But it's been pretty slim, so I think we got

774
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: some pent up demand with all the heat we've had.

775
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: I think these are going to bust loose. I really do.

776
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: And I think as soon as we get that front

777
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 1: whenever we you know, here in Illinois looks like there's

778
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: the temperatures are getting back the closer to I guess normal.

779
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: It's been it's been unseasonably warm up here too.

780
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: But when you say tight to betting, so we're picturing

781
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: October twenty second to October twenty ninth, is your plan

782
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: to still be somewhat tight to betting on a scrape

783
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: maybe a mock scrape within one hundred yards of where

784
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: you're anticipating them betting or is it two hundred yards

785
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: or sixty yards?

786
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: Is it like a rule of thumb for someone to

787
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: have in the back of their mind.

788
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I would say less than a coup one

789
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: hundred yards For me, I can only speak to my

790
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: situation where I'm hunting down here. It's very small permission pieces,

791
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: so a lot of these properties are long, kind of

792
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: skinny flagpole access type pieces, and so there's not a

793
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: whole lot of width, but a lot of them have

794
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: some depth. So I'm hunting pretty close to betting on

795
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: those scrapes. So I want them to move, obviously, and

796
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: like you said, it is going to bust loose. So

797
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: but I don't want to ask too much. Right three

798
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: four or five hundred yards away from my betting area

799
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: to a mature buck right now, that's still a long ways.

800
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: When we're talking still in the eighties for the high

801
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: So I want to ask him to do something, but

802
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: just not ask him to do too much. So for

803
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: the later part of October, are you bringing ratoin anilers

804
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: or you're bringing a call? Are you are you pulling

805
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: out a bag of tricks? Are you still just trying

806
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: to hunt natural movement for this time period? So primarily

807
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: in Texas, I'll hunt natural movement, but I do have

808
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: a least in southwestern Oklahoma, a lot of mature bucks,

809
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: pretty low pressure around in that area. That's a spot

810
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: that I'm definitely going to bring out, bring the decoy out,

811
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: and definitely do some rattling. What I've noticed is this

812
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: big boss buck decoy that I like to use down

813
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: here in Texas. That's about the biggest buck you would

814
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: ever see body wise, But uput open Oklahoma, he looks

815
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: a little more like a familiar face. So I don't

816
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: want to scare off my Texas bucks, but for the

817
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma ones, I'll absolutely break out the decoy and start

818
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: smashing that black rack together. Yeah what real quick base

819
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: give us a rundown on what the strategy would be

820
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: for southwestern Oklahoma with the decoy, with rattling like, what

821
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: are the conditions, how far are you putting the decoy?

822
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: Kind of break that down For someone that has the

823
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: decoy in their garage, they like, yeah, I'm I'm gonna

824
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: try using that. Oh yeah, So I actually set up

825
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: a mock scrape in the middle of this kind of

826
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: travel corridor on this river bottom piece that I'm hunting

827
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: southwest Oklahoma. So I'll put that buck too, not too

828
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: far from that mock scrape, because I'm getting a ton

829
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: of inventory and trail camp pictures around that spot, and

830
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a spot where if a buck

831
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: that hadn't been in the area before just popped up

832
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: at it, it would look pretty normal, right, like, oh, this

833
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: buck's kind of gum and lay down some sign here,

834
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: So I would I'm gonna put mine kind of face

835
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: in the bedding area. And then obviously I like to

836
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: put him twenty twenty five yards in a kind of

837
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: in a posture looking away in a sense, And so

838
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: I want that buck to have to kind of swing

839
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: around and get even closer to me to end up

840
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: checking out that decoy. Obviously, you got ground sent You've

841
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: been touching the decoy, so you kind of got a

842
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: crapp er get off the pot in a sense of

843
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: when that buck decides to come in, he's either going

844
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: to spook or get shot. But hopefully it's a mature

845
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: buck when he comes in to do that. But I'm

846
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: setting my decoy up right there near that mock scrape,

847
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: so it looks pretty natural in terms of a new

848
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: buck cruising into a you know, established area. Do you

849
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: feel that, you know, looking at knowing the time of

850
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: year and kind of looking into the weather for the

851
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, call it twenty second to the twenty ninth.

852
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: Do you have pretty high X expectations or are you

853
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: trying to keep them in check or where? Where's your

854
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: level of excitement based off of all the factors that

855
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: we know as of right now.

856
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm pretty excited overall.

857
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: I feel like we've been at such a low even

858
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: average feels high at the moment. So we've been sitting

859
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: at like a one or a two confidence level, and

860
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: now as we're seeing you know, some fifteen degree wings

861
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: in temperature, I'd say that get me up to a

862
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: five or six. Like it's not going to be unseasonably

863
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: cold though that last week of October. It's just it's

864
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: still going to be right in line with probably expectations.

865
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: But when it's been as unseasonably warm as it's been,

866
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: average feels like exceptional right now, right So I'm I'm

867
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: feeling pretty confident about that, but I'm not expecting it

868
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: to break loose, just in an extraordinary way.

869
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: That's fair.

870
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, when is your if you had to say, over

871
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: the years, what is your favorite time of year of where?

872
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: What pretend you only had, you know, the five days

873
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: to hunt? Like, what time period are you most excited

874
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: and amped up about it? Is it late October? As

875
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: are deeper into November or even deeper than that because

876
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: you're in the South, man, I really like that Halloween

877
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: to about the fourth of November. I feel like the

878
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: rut hasn't really busted loose, but you still got those

879
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: bucks on that cruising pattern, right, so they're a little

880
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: more susceptible to calling their home. Rangers are expanding a

881
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: bunch more so I feel like they kind of start

882
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: to expose themselves more as they start to lay down

883
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: sign and move around. But they're not in that rut

884
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: craze zombifide area where when they're running by you can't

885
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: get them to stop and when you're bow hunting, you

886
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: need them to stop and you need them to be close.

887
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: So that little five day period right there, Halloween to

888
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: about the fourth or the fifth, that is my favorite

889
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: time to hunt all year, especially here in the South.

890
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: What are you keen in on through the twenty second

891
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: twenty ninth to have the most success in the octogon

892
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: Halloween to that fourth, Because I feel like for someone

893
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: that listens to that now, like I'm just gonna wait

894
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: until Halloween, until the fourth. That's when Christian says it's

895
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: the best. But I think a lot of times it

896
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: has something to do with throwing some hunts, throwing some CITs,

897
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: doing maybe a little bit of scouting, and kind of

898
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: building up a case to make a good plan from

899
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: Halloween to the fourth. So, if you were someone that

900
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: just wanted to key in on and develop a really

901
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: strong plan for for that weekend, what are you specifically

902
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: laser focused on over the next seven days from a

903
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: scouting perspective or in inventory perspective. Yeah, I'm looking. I'm

904
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: looking for scrapes and I'm looking for just natural travel corridors.

905
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: As the as the uh you know, the temperatures get

906
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: lower and lower. I just think since we've I feel

907
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: like we're gonna have this pent up demand similar like

908
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: you see in the markets, right, I mean, these bucks

909
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: want to move, they want to lay down sign. But

910
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, I'm sitting here wearing a winter coat

911
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: right now. I don't want to be cruising all around

912
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of yards. So I'm just looking for

913
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: those places, like I said, in between food, bed and

914
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: bed and food and places where they're laying down signed.

915
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: Like so if you can find natural scrapes sentting over,

916
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: maybe a scrape line or a rub line, something like that.

917
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: And the thing is, man, you can't kill them from

918
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: the couch. So although maybe it won't be the best

919
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: time because it's not going to be unseasonably cold, some

920
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: deer definitely going to get killed and you can't kill

921
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: them sitting at home. Like I know, we've been saying

922
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: hurry up and wait, hurry up and wait. But when

923
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: we start getting in the October twenties, it's time to

924
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: hurry up and get in the woods, you know, even

925
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: if it is warm, because they're definitely thinking about it.

926
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: I like it.

927
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Well, so you had put it one to ten. You're

928
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: at like a five or six for the next seven days,

929
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: then I would.

930
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: Say about a five or six.

931
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, which when you're going from a one or two, man,

932
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: it feels great.

933
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: That's a good way to look at it.

934
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: Well, Christian, good luck, good luck in Texas, good luck

935
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. And if people want to tune in on

936
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: how your guys this season progresses, where.

937
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: Can they do that?

938
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, just check us out on YouTube Hunter's Advantage and

939
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: we also have the podcast on Apple and Spotify, so

940
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: you can just stay up to date with us there.

941
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: Awesome, good luck, Christian, I appreciate it all right.

942
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: Next up on the line, we have Benny from Minnesota

943
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: with Moultrie.

944
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: How's it going, Yes, sir, I'm happy to be here.

945
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on. Things are going great, man.

946
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: I mean, the deer aren't moving as much as I'd

947
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: like them to be, but we're We're hearing of guys

948
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: and deer all over the country, so that's that's fun

949
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: to hear. And I'm hoping that that happens to me

950
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 4: before too long.

951
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

952
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: Well, I think when this goes live, we're at the

953
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: stage of the season where it's only going to get

954
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: more exciting in the time that We've been waiting for,

955
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, really since last year, but I got to

956
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: kick it off with a trivia question here about the

957
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: state of Minnesota. I'm putting you right on the spot,

958
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: just like everyone else. Yep, And so I'll give you

959
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: I'll give you this question. Okay, what year was there

960
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: the highest total harvest of whitetail deer in the state

961
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: of Minnesota. So the amount the most amount of deer tagged,

962
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: whether it was archery or their firearm season.

963
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna roll with something in the early

964
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: two thousands. I'm gonna say two thousand and seven.

965
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: You're close.

966
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: So actually, last week we had they guess two thousand

967
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: and three and it was two thousand and seven. You

968
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: guts two thousand and seven. This is actually two thousand

969
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: and three. There was two hundred and ninety thousand shot

970
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: of two thousand and three, and for reference, there was

971
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: only one hundred and seventy thousand shot in twenty twenty four.

972
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: Wow. Unbelievable, Yeah, so unbelievable. Yeah.

973
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: So, anyhow, it's late October, and what are you most

974
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: excited about or what are you keen in on for

975
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: the next week?

976
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: Here?

977
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 4: Oh man, So so this week finally had bucks that

978
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 4: were starting to move on to our properties. So I'm

979
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 4: to kind of give you a rundown. I'm hunting a

980
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: lot of egg land. It's preferably for rifle hunters, the

981
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 4: gun hunters of the world, but it's it's what I

982
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 4: have access to, and I enjoy bow hunting it a lot.

983
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: It's a challenge, but I absolutely love it. Finally this

984
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: week the deer kind of started moving. They're hitting scrapes

985
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: a little bit more. I sent you a couple of

986
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: videos this morning of deer that have been coming around,

987
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: and it's it's looking up. But actually in two days

988
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 4: I'm headed to Illinois for a hunt, and nice from

989
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: what those guys are saying, the deer are moving and

990
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: there's a good cold front hu the way, so really

991
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: hoping that we can connect with one. Hanging out with

992
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 4: the stay grounded boys down there, and so yeah, the

993
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 4: next week, it's just hoping that nothing daylights on camera at.

994
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 2: Home when I'm gone.

995
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: But I'm really looking forward to getting back and just

996
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: hopefully having some deers start to move in a little

997
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: bit more, be a little bit more consistent, and then

998
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: hopefully connect with one before rifle season.

999
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: So you leave for Illinois in two days. How long

1000
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: are you planning the state down there?

1001
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: So I'll be in Illinois?

1002
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 4: I mean realistically, I told them I can be there

1003
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: for about six days, about a week, and then I

1004
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: got to get home to the wife. And so it's

1005
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: either a shoot one right away and come home or

1006
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: I'm there all six days and get skunk and then

1007
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: come home.

1008
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: So okay, So what is your mental game plan going

1009
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: into that? You know you're traveling, so you got to

1010
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: figure out things kind of on the fly. I'm sure

1011
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: they've done some scouting. I'm sure they have cameras up.

1012
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: But as you're you know, you have some time to

1013
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: think about it. What are you What are you gonna do?

1014
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: You got six days to trying to.

1015
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: Make it happen. Yeah, oh absolutely. So obviously at home

1016
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: it's been slow.

1017
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: So I'm like, you know what, man, I got to

1018
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 4: kind of just get my mind on Illinois. Just look

1019
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 4: forward to being out there hanging out with some of

1020
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: our partners multi partners that is. And I mean like

1021
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 4: they shared their cameras with me through the app, and

1022
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: I'm looking on there, I mean every single day and

1023
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 4: I'm like dude, this just brings my self confidence down

1024
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: so much about hunt that.

1025
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: So many big deer in Illinois.

1026
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 4: There's just and I mean, they set up the properties

1027
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 4: perfect for what they're doing, and so they've got a

1028
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of blinds. I don't know how

1029
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 4: many like actual stand setups they have, but I know

1030
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 4: they've got a lot of great blinds that will probably

1031
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 4: be hunting out of hunting egg fields for the most part.

1032
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, they've They've had a couple of really nice

1033
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: dear come off of those properties already this year, and

1034
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 4: so I'm really looking forward to getting out there.

1035
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: Are most are you anticipating most of those blinds? Are

1036
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: they set up on falt food plots, like green food sources,

1037
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: staining beans, sanding corn, Like, what's kind of that setup

1038
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: look like to focus on food?

1039
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as I know, basically, I was on

1040
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 4: the phone with Tanner yesterday and he was telling me

1041
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: like they had just cut like a strip of corn,

1042
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: so they're leaving some standing corn and whatnot, and then

1043
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: they've got a couple mock scrapes set up right out

1044
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 4: in the middle of these cut fields, and I mean,

1045
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 4: like it is prime set up for deer hunting like

1046
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: it's the best of the best.

1047
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: Sweet.

1048
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: So if you were staying in Minnesota from October twenty

1049
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: second to October twenty ninth, you know, historically, what are

1050
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: some things that you're really paying close attention to looking

1051
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: at the extended forecast, I mean, you know, temperatures are

1052
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: seeming to get back closer to normal. But what would

1053
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: you be if someone was struggling right now and they're

1054
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, you know, agland, hedgerows, fence rows, What has

1055
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: you most excited for the next seven days?

1056
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so right now, I mean honestly, right now, it's

1057
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 4: waiting for harvest to be over, and we're probably if

1058
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: I had to guess, sixty percent through corn harvest now,

1059
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: and it seems like the bucks have just all kind

1060
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 4: of moved over and they're they're hanging out in the corn,

1061
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 4: getting as much as they can before it's off. And

1062
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 4: then so if you're hunting egg land, I mean I'm

1063
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: sitting in sometimes rows of like four trees and like

1064
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: you got to just get lucky. I mean, I'm sitting

1065
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: in white oaks, and they're typically coming over, these deer

1066
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 4: coming over to feed on the acorns because there's not

1067
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: that many food sources or standing food sources left that is.

1068
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 4: And then you talk to I mean buddies. I have

1069
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: buddies that are hunting hardwoods in southern Minnesota and then

1070
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 4: eastern Minnesota and uh northern Minnesota, like different areas all

1071
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 4: over the country, and it seems like those guys that

1072
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 4: are hunting hardwoods, the deer are hitting scrapes like crazy,

1073
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: whereas like over in the more open egg land where

1074
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 4: I'm hunting right now, a little bit slower. But then

1075
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 4: once things start heat up, right around Halloween is typically

1076
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 4: when it's like guns are crazy, and for us it's

1077
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: just so good. It seems like the deer are starting

1078
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: to cruise a lot more, maybe got that pre rud

1079
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 4: activity going on. And then I mean like first week

1080
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: in November and then into rifle season, it's that's typically

1081
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: when the deer are on the move. And so honestly,

1082
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: I would say just be in the stand, like if

1083
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: you can get work off, if you can time a

1084
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: cold front right, if you can be on a food

1085
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: source that's still standing, find where the food is, if

1086
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 4: you've got a water hole, I mean, that's probably even better,

1087
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: especially during the rut. But yeah, go to those key

1088
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 4: sources and then just get in a high traffic area

1089
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 4: for the rut.

1090
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Speaker 1: How far I mean, over the years that you've hunted,

1091
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: I'm just pictured. I've never hunted there, but I'm just

1092
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: pictured in my head. You know a lot different parts

1093
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: of the Midwest. How far do you think the line

1094
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: of movement is for some of these bucks for the

1095
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: later part of October where there's maybe not a ton

1096
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: of betting opportunity and they're laying downsign on these edges,

1097
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean, do they do how far can you see it?

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00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: How far do they move? And so?

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00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 4: So Okay, so to give you kind of a visual,

1100
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 4: So I'm hunting, probably the typical spot that I'm hunting

1101
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: is about eight hundred acres and there's probably I don't

1102
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 4: know ten acres of wooded area on that piece, but

1103
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 4: it's basically around a whole swamp. And so the deer,

1104
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: I mean, they cruise it hard during the rut, and

1105
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: that's typically the only time we see the deer cruising

1106
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: on her property. So if you're a rifle hunting, you'll

1107
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 4: see them from a far away. But when you're bow hunting,

1108
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: you're just sitting there anticipating that hopefully they're going to

1109
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 4: come to that food source that you're sitting on within

1110
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: those four trees, or you're hoping that they're going to

1111
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: come and sit in within those trees in the betting

1112
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 4: areas that I'm sitting and by so I'm trying to

1113
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 4: sit pretty close to the betting areas.

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00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have spooked coupled year before.

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00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: But I mean at that point you're just trying to

1116
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 4: risk it for the biscuit and get in there, and

1117
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: all day sits can be super beneficial for those reasons.

1118
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I think back over the years, you know,

1119
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: for these next ten days October twenty second to the

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Speaker 1: end of October, so call it nine days has been

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00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: a really productive time for trail camera inventory. Buck showing

1122
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: up And what was one tip or trend you have

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00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: noticed with a buck that shows up this time of

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00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: year on a camera on a scrape that you maybe

1125
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen before earlier in the year. What advice do

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00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: you have or what things would you tell someone to

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00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: key it on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so this is this is actually wild.

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00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 4: So the deer that I sent you this morning, he

1130
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 4: has only been on camera three times throughout this year.

1131
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 4: He showed up like once in July, once late September,

1132
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 4: and then just this morning. And so he's a deer

1133
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: that showed up last year mid October, same exact timeframe.

1134
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 4: So really it's if you have trail cameras, and if

1135
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: you don't, I recommend you get them. Just get them

1136
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 4: out there. Put them on scrapes, put them on high

1137
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 4: pass routes. Go look for trails that you you can

1138
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 4: clearly tell that deer are traveling. And I mean, you

1139
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 4: really never know when these deer are going to show up,

1140
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: especially during the rut. So get those trail cameras out.

1141
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 4: Don't don't I would say, don't, don't mount them too

1142
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: high or anything like. Put them put them on a

1143
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: spot where like you know you're gonna get that camera

1144
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: to trigger.

1145
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of guys where they're like, man,

1146
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: I put a.

1147
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 4: Camera out and it hasn't triggered at all, and then

1148
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: you end up seeing like it's at about human head height,

1149
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 4: where it's like it should be at about waste height.

1150
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 4: And that can ruin a guy's season because he's like, well,

1151
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 4: I'm basing it up off my trail cameras.

1152
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: There was nothing there.

1153
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 4: I didn't go out so it's like, get as many

1154
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 4: trail cameras and as he can out there, pay attention

1155
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 4: to those obviously, but then also get in the stand,

1156
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 4: because I mean, you could have a trail camera right

1157
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 4: there and the deer could walk behind that tree and

1158
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: you're never gonna know that that deer existed. So I

1159
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 4: would say, yeah, get the trail cameras out, but also

1160
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 4: get in the stand.

1161
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

1162
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: And one thing I would say too is don't be

1163
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: discouraged if you get in the next when you listen

1164
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: to this today, maybe you got a picture of a

1165
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: deer last night that was one o'clock in the morning,

1166
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock at night, three o'clock in the morning, and think, oh,

1167
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: he's two miles away. He might be, but a lot

1168
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: of times in the next ten days, twelve days, oh yeah,

1169
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: pretty good chance can be run around there in daylight somewhere.

1170
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: And so that's the excited thing of that.

1171
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's where I sit here too. I'm like,

1172
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 4: I'm going to be in Illinois for allegedly six days.

1173
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 4: So if I get one of these bucks daylight and

1174
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: the shown up in the mornings, I know he's going

1175
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: to bed not far away. I mean that just eats

1176
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: at because you know that that deer is somewhat close

1177
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 4: and he might daylight at night. Not a guarantee, but

1178
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that that doesn't happen. But at the same time,

1179
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 4: it'll be reassuring and it'll definitely make me want to

1180
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: get home. But yeah, I mean the property is out here,

1181
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 4: the egg land. There's a bunch of egg land that

1182
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 4: I'm hunting. And then of course these bucks are pretty

1183
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: honed in on basically a twenty to thirty acre piece

1184
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 4: on our neighbor's property, and they just they feel safe there.

1185
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 4: There's pines all over it, there's everything they need, and

1186
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 4: it's just once the rut gets here, then they start

1187
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 4: traveling trying to look for does a little bit more

1188
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 4: and that's where I can hopefully find my luck.

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00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 1: I like it so looking at the weather and also

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00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: time of year, because I think that's a factor. Now,

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00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: on a scale one to ten, where do you put

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00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: this next seven day stretch, and let's say ten is

1193
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: the best week of the entire year, one being the

1194
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: worst week of the entire year, where do you put it?

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00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 4: I would say next seven days would be I would

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00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 4: rate it as like a as like a four. It's

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00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: more like I would take it as like an observation

1198
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: sit leading up to uh, basically Halloween week and in

1199
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 4: the rut, see what the deer movement's like, see how

1200
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 4: they're acting, seeing if if the doors are acting any different,

1201
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 4: if there's any bucks that are kind of starting to

1202
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 4: detail dose a little bit.

1203
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: It's possible.

1204
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 4: I've seen guys sharing trail camera photos and videos right

1205
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 4: now that have bucks and stuff kind of dog and dos,

1206
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 4: which is crazy.

1207
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: But I'd say probably about a four.

1208
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: And then I mean leading up to Halloween Halloween week,

1209
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 4: I would say you're getting closer to that nine to

1210
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 4: ten range.

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00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: I like it.

1212
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: Well, Benny, good luck in Illinois and good luck in Minnesota.

1213
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: It was a pleasure, and I encourage everyone to pay

1214
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 1: really close attention to their cameras. If the batteries are dead,

1215
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: go get some batteries and put a solar panel them.

1216
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: Do what do you need to do? Because wait all year?

1217
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: Where there intel? And you mentioned the deer showing up,

1218
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: you know a year later. Really important to get key

1219
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: intel this time of year because it might help you

1220
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: next year too.

1221
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: If it doesn't help you this year, absolutely.

1222
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: Here you guys have it. I hope you guys enjoyed

1223
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: this episode. And this is my last piece of advice

1224
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: and tip from hunting white tails and scouting and being

1225
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: out and about this time of year. Have a floater

1226
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: trail camera or two. What I mean by that is,

1227
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: if you find hot sign, you find a scrape that

1228
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: you have not seen before. Maybe it's in a bottom,

1229
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: maybe it's on an edge of betting, maybe it's on

1230
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: a field edge.

1231
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that it's going.

1232
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: To be a key place for intel throughout the month

1233
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: of November through the remaining part of October. That might

1234
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: be one of the most important pieces of scouting that

1235
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: you can do passively by hanging a camera. So make

1236
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: sure you have a floater camera with you when you

1237
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: go out and hunt, you scout, switch batteries, whatever you do,

1238
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: have one or two floater cameras and put it on

1239
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: hot sign and it's going to help you.

1240
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: That is it.

1241
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: We will see you next week on Rough Fresh.

1242
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: Good luck,