WEBVTT - Scream with Joan Ford 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.640 On the beck Dol Cast, the questions asked if movies 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:07.360 have women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:11.520 and husbands, or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.720 invest start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hello and 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.480 welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin Dronte 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.840 Jamie Loftus, and we talk about the portrayal women in movie, 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.040 but mostly on this podcast. Actually that's maybe maybe it's 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.320 an even split at this point. Yeah. We're always texting 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:32.080 each other being like, hey, did you see this movie? 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.040 What you think? And usually I'm like I didn't see it, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.800 and then you're like, okay, let's hang out. Yeah that's fun. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.640 That's a nice little friendship. Yeah, it's really really wonderful. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:46.159 That's good. Um, So we use the Bechdel Test, a 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.000 test evented by cartoonist Ales and Betel. So we use 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.960 the Bechtel dost is jumping off point to take a 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.160 look at some of your favorite movies. Our definition of 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.320 that is uh scene in a piece of media must 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:03.040 include two female identifying characters with names who talk about 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.560 something other than a man for more than two lines 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.880 of dialogue. I think it would be easy, you would think, 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.959 and yet you would be interesting is to like crunch 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.560 like one of those A FI lists or something, and 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.960 figure out how many of those movies actually uh it's 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:27.200 like or less. That seems reasonable. Yeah. I also there 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.280 was something someone tweeted us this morning. When then we'll 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:33.200 get into the episodic promise. But someone who just listened 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.840 to our bendit like Beckham episode, and they tweeted this 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.000 stray thought that's really been haunting me, which is like, 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:45.600 what a season to be haunted? Hated? Okay, but he 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.760 tweeted at us that he could think, off the top 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:53.040 of his head more sports movies that starred animals than 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.960 started human women. Yeah. I think we talked about that 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.440 in that episode. Maybe he's just quoting us, maybe we're geniuses. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.160 But I was like, oh my god, he's so smart. 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.000 Maybe we're so smart, right, because we talked about like 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.760 air Bud and then various air Bud spin off. My 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:10.280 favorite m v P Most Valuable Primate, Yes, the Hockey movie. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.040 I love that one. Oh god, you I mean you 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:15.639 say that and then you're like, but I do want 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.959 to see a monkey play a goalie. So I guess 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.360 we just need more movies with women and more movies 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.280 with animals and less movies with men. That's what I meant. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.280 Yes anyways, and speaking of, you know, being horrified at 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:33.040 the representation of women in film, Yeah, yeah, where you 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.480 go with this? Let's go shopping is what I was 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:41.240 going to suggesting. So, yes, let us talk about the 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.280 movie we're here to talk about today, But first, why 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.280 don't we introduce our guests. She is a writer on 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:50.560 ThunderCats Roar on Cartoon Network, also a writer on Yapadaba 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.519 Dinosaurs on Boomerang, and performs regularly at U C b 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.840 l A. Joan Ford say next year, all those shows 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.000 will out next year. Yeah, so be on the lookout. 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.320 Don't stop looking out, never stop your TV two into 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:10.760 Cartoon Network, your day and your perch, your little crow's nest, Titanic, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.760 keep your eyes on the horizon for new media. My 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.000 mom always used to say to me when I was younger, 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.280 to be alert and aware, which I think both applies 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:26.120 to you know specifically and only that, But she was 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.000 also like, you know, stay safe, be aware of your surroundings, 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:33.000 and be alert, which applies to horror movies too. Yeah, 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:37.200 you're like, you've got nineteen different Segways and loaded today. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.760 There it's my segway of life. You're like Paul because 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:46.520 you love segways. Oh, because they should come up with 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:50.040 a new Paul Blart where he gets into birds. Oh god, 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.800 the Pratt Falls Paul Blart would do off a bird scooter. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:58.960 I tell you not to encourage more movies starring Kevin James. Right, 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.720 although maybe it's time for like a female Paul Art. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:08.800 Maybe it's time to gender gender swap. That franchise is. Yeah, 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.400 kind of unbelievable that we're the first person to think 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.840 of that. I feel like a high school that's already 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:19.039 was like a high school. There's YouTube video what if 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:23.360 PAULA Blart? And so wait, what's the movie today? Well, 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:28.400 speaking of strong female protagonists, we're talking about Scream, the 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.200 first one directed by Wes Anderson from nineteen nine six 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.600 No Wake. What did I say that Anderson is someone 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.080 has made that YouTube video Wes Anderson screen and a 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:43.840 lot of very center of frame murders. Yeah. I really 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.440 literally looking at the name Craven right in front of me, 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.800 and I still said West Anderson. Okay, to be fair, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.880 it's a silly last name. Yeah, that a horror master 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.200 should be so Craven, that's it's yeah. There was already 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:59.120 a fake trailer of Paula Blart released where Melissa McCarthy, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:03.840 you know, someone got there where the time McCarthy was 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:08.160 a pass if you can believe. Okay, so we're what 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:14.680 we are talking about is Scream, directed by Wes Craven. Craven, Joan, 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.520 what is your history your relationship with this movie? Oh 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.360 my gosh, well, um, are you talking about this? Because 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.880 I'm going to date myself. But I was very much 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.159 like the target audience for this movie when it came out. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.320 I was this actually came out on the weekend of 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.440 my like sixteenth birthday. Okay, so can I take us 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.920 all back to like Winter? So I don't know if 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.080 like people realize this now, especially if they kind of 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.200 like came up like after the movie. But like it 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.200 wasn't just that like Scream was like not expect to 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.760 do well. It was like expected to like bomb, like 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.440 they buried that movie because that Winter, like it came 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.320 out the same weekend that like all these big Christmas 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.240 movies came out, like Mars Attacks and Jerry McGuire and 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.880 he was about how do America and like all those movies, 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.680 we're just gonna like bury scream. In fact, I remember 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.279 it didn't even come to like the main theater in 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.159 my town. It opened in the like three dollar cheap 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.240 theater because they just expected a bomb, and I was 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.920 like a big horr nerd and I was really excited 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:11.920 to see it. But like just I remember that like 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.680 it opening and no one really thinking now that and 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:18.000 then it kind of like slowly like picked up steam 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:24.160 to the point that it got screen. It got like 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.800 it got like moved over, eventually got moved over to 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.719 the big theater, and that like holiday break, moving into 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.960 that like first couple of weeks of January in school, 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.239 like it became this thing that everybody was talking about, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.040 everybody was going to see, and like all of a 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.160 sudden it was cool to like be into horror and 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.760 like that was it was this very fun like communal 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.800 thing where like everybody like I want to see it 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.400 a couple of times in theaters, and like you would 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.880 always run into people you kind of knew. So yeah, 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.719 it was just like it was fun and it would 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.640 it made me feel like, oh, something I like is 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.400 cool now, because like I said, you know, I was 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.599 like a kid who grew up like reading fangoria and 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.640 like writing letters to like horror directors and so yeah, 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.000 it made me feel like it gave me a little 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.200 bit of a community, and like for the rest of 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.760 my high school I had like horror friends because of that. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.120 Like I remember going to the Bride of Chucky with 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.040 the cool kids after that. Yeah, because the cool kids 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.000 were seeing Bride of screen made it okay, go see 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.440 Bride of Chucky excellent. I was also, yeah, like you were. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.480 I was really surprised to see this movie came out 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.080 during the Christmas season, because you would think it would 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.720 be for sure in October at least. That's so you 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.560 can't kill Scream. You can't. And I would say, if 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.240 I was looking at and knew nothing about this movie, 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.400 and I hadn't already heard so many amazing things about it, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.440 if I saw the Villain, I'd be like, probably this 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.800 movie sucks. If I saw it like the Mask, this 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.600 is this is a goof this is a goofy one. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.520 But I've my history with this movie is of course 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.960 I watched it this morning, Yes, and before that, I 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.760 just I knew I loved Matthew Lillard and I was like, 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.800 let's roll the diet says Lillard's number one fan, because 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.880 I'll watch any Lillard joint and I will say spoilers 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.920 for everyone listening. I was still on Caitlin when I 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.760 hunt in today that you know, like, for me, it 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:14.080 seemed so clear because Lillard did not die right away 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.360 because he's such a DUFs that he was involved, because 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.680 when when it gets to be the forty five minute mark, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:25.920 You're like, Lillard, what is he? So? Anyways, and and 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.320 Lillard and Nev Campbell were dating on the set of screen. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.320 Wait what I know? I hate it too. I mean Lillard, 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.240 what a lucky guy. Yeah, what a what a reach? 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.840 But you know he went for it and it worked 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.040 out good for him. I guess, is this this that 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.840 the Courtney Cox and David or Cutt meet Onlieve? So yeah, wow, 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.440 this is a this is a hot set. Yeah, everyone's 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:54.760 fucking momentary. Yeah yeah. So my history with this movie 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:59.520 is I did not see any of the movies in 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:04.840 these Dream franchise until I think two thousand eleven before 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.240 the fourth one came out. So my friend j T, 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.240 friend of the cast Twilight episode is a big scream 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.560 head and he was like, look, we're gonna go see 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.680 Scream four and you have to prepare. So we like 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.880 sat down and had a little Scream marathon. So I 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.640 didn't watch any of them until then, and I was like, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.240 these are fun, this is great. Uh. And then I 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:31.480 just rewatched all four again in preparation of this episode, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.040 and I like these movies even more now. I'm like, 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:38.720 these are so freaking fun. They're so fun. Yeah, I'm 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.360 still stuff to talk about that. My first horror franchise 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.440 or slashy franchise that I really loved was Final Destination. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.280 But I'm pretty sure Final Destination came out on the 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.920 success of movies Scream, right, that's post Scream. I think 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.760 that I want to say that was two thousand. Yeah, 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.800 so yeah, there's that whole wait. Like horror was really 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.920 kind of like dead as a genre before Scream, Like 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.400 there was this like after kind of like the early nineties, 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.120 Corror kind of went away after like the like Jason 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.800 Freddie Chucky Boom. Yeah, like everyone thought for it was dead, 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.680 even like Wes Craven was coming off of like a 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.200 string of flops. That's everyone's so surprised, and Scream hit 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.960 so big people were ready, yeah, ready for hor to 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.560 be reinvented. Did you see all the Harry I'm going 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.360 to just keep bringing up Matthew Lillard this whole thing. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.240 Did you see the Matthew Lillard cameos and screams two 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.079 and four? I did see that on IMDb, Yes, I did. 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.360 I don't know about this. Where what? Where? Where do 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.160 I look to see Matthew Lard and screams to and 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:43.359 four crowd scenes? It seems like, Okay, he's just available 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.560 as the scream to the only thing that Matthew Lillard 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:51.280 did in the year seven. He played Guy at Party uncredited. Uh, 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.000 go forward a little bit to scream for Guy at 0:10:55.040 --> 0:11:01.400 Stabathon uncredited. Okay, so you know he's now Lillard as 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.360 the only person I think in the world living solely 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.920 on a Scooby Doo based income. You know, I think, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.360 you know he's just around. At the time, he was 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:16.920 good in um the Twin Peaks Revival. Actually yeah, I 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:18.839 was like, I'm feeling something from Matthew Liard. I don't 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.439 know if I like that I'm empathizing with him. That's 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.200 not good, right, That is something like maybe it's time 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:30.360 to go on vacation yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember when 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.000 he was on The Good Wife. I lost my mind. Anyways, right, 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.520 he was great. He is good. Okay, So now one 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.720 last thing I wanted to say is while it took 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.720 me a while to see the screen movies, I did 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:48.560 see all of the Scary movie movies. They were first. Yeah, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.840 so the first Scary Movie is closely a parody of 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.640 the first screen movie. Uh. And I also rewatched like 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.600 the first half of that also to prepare for this episode, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.600 just because see that, just in case something came up. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.480 And it is the worst movie in the world. It's 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.640 like the jokes that it relies on are just a 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.160 series of the most problematic jokes in the world. It's 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.360 just it's trash. It's horrible. But I did see those 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.280 and most familiar with That's why I sort of watched 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.319 Scream before I actually saw a Scream. Yeah, you got 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.880 the narrative of Scream before you saw a Scream, because 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.360 it is like that is from just this generation of 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.160 parody movies where it's like, you don't build another story, 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.240 You're just like, let's tell the other story. This movie 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:37.320 already did, but with more homophobic jokes exactly. It's so 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.400 those movies are so bizarya because there's no there's no 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.280 attempt at commentary on anything. They're like, hey, look at, 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.800 look at, look at let's just beat up the woman 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.079 in every scene, and that's funny. What if they did 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.320 this in the movie, you like, what if the Juno 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.040 got eaten by Alvin and the chipmunkst Oh my god, 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.120 wait wait, I forget which one in one of those 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.440 movie movies. They're all a blur, but there's death like 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.280 one where Alvin and the Chipmunks turned into zombies because 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.520 it was probably are also around like dawn at the 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:11.360 dead time and they heed, you know, god, that's very late, 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.680 ots upsetting. There is a great video of Ellen Page 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.800 watching that scene and like losing her fucking mind. It's 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:22.920 very fun. So shall I do the recap? Yes? Okay, 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:27.160 so Scream. We opened on a teenager named Casey Becker 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:32.719 played by Drew Berry more middle part. Drew who was 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.680 originally going to play Sydney interesting but then sketching conflicts 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.000 didn't allow it think a smaller role. But I think 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.920 that was actually better for her. I agree, great, I 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.480 assumed when I saw that scene, I was like, oh, 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.480 they could only get Drew for three days. Yeah, yess. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.720 She she liked was an early champion. In the script, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.240 she wanted to do it. So she's at home, she's 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.120 getting ready to watch a scary movie and then she 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.679 gets a fun call from an unknown caller who is 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:01.520 asking her about scary movies, and so situation escalates. He's 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:06.320 like harassing her. This masked figure shows up and ends 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:12.080 up killing her and her boyfriend Steve Steve Jock Steve. Yeah, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.360 he's a big guy, but not a big enoun not 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.600 big enough to not get murdered. Um. And then we 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.240 meet Sydney Prescott that is Nev Campbell's character, and she's 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.720 a classmate of Casey's. And then we meet a couple 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.280 of Sydney's friends. Among them are her boyfriend Billy played 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:34.320 by Skeet old Rich rears his little head again, keats 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.320 back on the cast. What was he in? H he 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.200 was in what we've done? Um? What the credit of 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.720 the craft? So that was our last Skeat discussion every October. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:52.000 Skeet comes out. We meet her friend Tatum played by 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:57.120 Rose McGowan. Tatum's boyfriend stew which is Lillard, and then 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:01.320 their other friend Randy, news of k he's murderer, gets 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:05.040 spread around, and we also learned that Sydney's mom was 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.200 murdered a year earlier. Also, I know, I mean whatever, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:13.160 Billy and Lillard did it. But in the first scene, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.640 you're like, Lillard's not showing really any empathy towards anyone. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:21.400 I'm like, it's two of the obvious choice. He was 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.240 onto him for a moment. One he was like, yeah, yeah, 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.960 I hooked up with that woman who just died brutally 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.680 a couple of times. I don't freaking care. And they're like, 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.720 what's your alibi? Dude? He's like, I was fucking It. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:37.360 Was like, are you serious right now? Lillard? Such poor taste. Yeah, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.960 murdered Lillard. Okay, So let me meet a compet, a 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:47.960 sheriff's deputy named Dewey played by David Arquette, and he's 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:52.840 also Tatum's brother. He's investigating. And then there's a nosey reporter, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.440 Gail weathers Um that's Courtney Cox's character. She's trying to 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.960 get the scoop on this story. Somebody good outfit. This 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.680 has the best name characters, and like, like horror franchise, 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.240 I think I remember, It's like I will remember the 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.760 name Sydney Prescott, Gayl Weathers and like Cotton Weary to 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.080 like the Day I Die. They're just such great like 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.040 horror movie names. Weary is the most insane name, and 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.720 I just I love it. Also such an insane character, 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.080 but it's like you're supposed to care about this guy 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.440 you never see once in the actual movie. But he 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:30.080 plays a much more prominent role in Scream Too. Yes, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.840 I was told skip to see three. Oh I disagree. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.280 I think two is more fun than three. Wow, And 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.880 Scream four is also romp. So depends on where the 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.680 al right, it depends on where you stand. On jan 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.120 Silent Bob came. I mean, well I was able to 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.960 weather them into grassy, but they took over a season. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.320 You did not know that. Oh it was a nightmare. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.880 It was a nightmare. Apparently Kevin Smith wanted to direct 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.760 some episodes, but they're like, you can't because you're a Canadian. 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.240 He's like, okay, can I just like start an entire arc? 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.560 And they let him do that, right, And there's still 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.080 like all the teenage like they're still like girls struggling 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.160 like with their teen pregnancies. But also Jay and Silent 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:16.840 Bob are there. It's very weird. H Kevin Kevin, okay, Lord. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.840 So then Sydney gets a call from the killer and 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:26.680 he is threatening her. Mr scream ms, Mr scream, And 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.280 a moment later, her boyfriend Billy shows up and a 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.080 cell phone drops out of his pocket. Oh. It's also 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.480 worth noting that Sydney is a virgin. She is dealing 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.919 with the grief and trauma of her mom dying. She 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.879 has an underpant's role. She has an underpant's role. Billy's like, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.760 come on, do some sex stuff with me, and she's like, no, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:53.160 you know about my rule and he's like okay. So 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.080 Billy shows up right after she gets this call and 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.560 a cellphone dropped out of his pocket, and it seems 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.399 like maybe he's the killer. So she's like, oh no, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.040 and he gets arrested because this was a period of 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.359 time when you having a cell phone and a killer, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.320 to having a cell phone was enough evidence to like 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:14.320 length like many people with cell phone, he must be 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.760 the killer. She turns on him so fast, like cell phone, 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.400 you're the murderer, right, And that that like kept me 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.919 off Billy's trail for a while. It's like she is 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.960 she is loyal to know she jumped into conclusion so fast. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.760 Imagine being a danger of being like, no, arrest my 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.520 boyfriend for having a cell phone, except in this movie 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.119 they call them cellulars. It's just like you hear the 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.280 word cellular like eighteen different times to recall it a celly, 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:47.240 remember that call me? But I only have twelve minutes, 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.200 so make it great. God, yeah, you'd just be cut 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.560 off in the middle of a brilliant thought of your celly. 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.120 So Billy's in jail, but Sydney gets another call from 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.200 the killer, so it can't be Billie scream again. Mr 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.480 Screen calls and he's like, you got the wrong guy. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.720 And then we learned Sydney had testified against this guy, 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:14.240 Cotton Weary, who was convicted of killing Sydney's mom. And 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:17.680 then Gayle snooping around. She's trying to get her story 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.800 um and sending her outfits hair outfits, lots of like 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.560 streaky like blonde highlights. The local news look is on 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.320 full display, and Sydney hates Gail for like exploiting her 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:34.480 mom's murder for a book deal, and you know Gail, 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.879 She's trying to get closer to Dewey to like get information, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:43.280 and you know, they're they're like, you're cute. Also important 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.320 to note, I think, is that like she doesn't think 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:49.320 Cotton did it. She thinks he's been falsely identified. Yeah, 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.680 and Sydney said an innocent man to jail, right, which 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:56.840 we maybe have seen her did twice now, right, So 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.840 and maybe Gail's onto something. So then the principle of 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.840 their school gets murdered and people are speculating who the 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.600 killer might be. And Randy, their friend, is this like 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.000 horror movie buff and he's like, you know, okay, it's 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:13.120 got to be by the way, King, Jamie Kennedy. That's 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:18.159 Jamie Kennedy. Yes, how did I not know? If Lillard 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.760 weren't already in this movie, that would be my central focus. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.080 But it is. It is Jamie Kennedy of of the 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:29.359 Experiment Um and your arch nemesis, my arch nemesis. Because 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.320 I'm going to marry into the Kennedy's and I'll be Jamie, 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:36.600 I'll be v Jamie Kennedy. So but yes, Jamie Kennedy. Okay, 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.920 he's good to know. Stars are out in this movie. 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.240 So then the police trace the calls that were made 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:48.040 from the killer to Sydney's dad's cellular and they can't 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.520 find him, so like, oh no, Sydney's dad is the killer. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.520 And then stu throws a party, some people get killed, 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:59.040 including Tatum in the garage door in a very brutal scene. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:03.560 Never go to Lillard's house. Also very strong garage door. 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:05.880 Like I feel like if I like every garage I've 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.600 ever seen, like breaks at like the drop of a 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.520 pin and it's just be able to lift a full 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:14.159 person like smash her head into. Also like my garage 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.240 door is a week but also has enough of a 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.320 sensor that it wouldn't it wouldn't it would just be like, oh, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.480 it would start to slowly rise up. Yeah, a little 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.239 tidbit at that. I like, is that apparently I think 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.439 they did need a stunt double because like Rose McGowen 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.040 was actually been enough that she could get through the 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:36.359 doggy door. So the rest of the story, they're at 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.720 Stuice party, people are getting killed. Billy and Sydney finally 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.840 have sex and then afterwards she's like, wait a minute, 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.119 I think you still might be the killer and he's like, 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:46.959 what do I have to do to prove that I'm not? 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.200 And then he gets stabbed by the killer, and then 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.439 the killer is going after Sydney and the high level prank. 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.760 At this point, I'm like, you're getting stabbed over your 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:02.040 own weird because moments later we find out that it 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.959 was just you know, the blood that we see was 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:09.840 just corn syrup, the same as using Carrie, and he 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.159 is in on it. So the killers are revealed to 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:18.159 be Stu and Billy. Yeah, Lillard, I like, you know, 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:22.240 he's he never has narrative consequence, right, I was like, 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:26.960 probably they gave for him. Yeah, all right. So they're 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.600 like telling their whole plan and the whole you know, 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:33.760 backstory to Sydney and they're the ones who killed her mom. 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.959 It wasn't cotton weary after all right, and you know 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.719 they planned to kill her and frame her dad. But 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.520 then she's like, no, not on my watch, and she 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:50.359 throws a TV onto Stew's head, and then Gail comes 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:55.440 in and shoots Billy. Good Bye. Ski. Something that always 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.520 bothered me about the ending is that an important part 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.400 of Skeet and Lillard's plan is that they they're gonna 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.240 like stab each other to like mayself like them look 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.439 selves look like victims. But they do that in the 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.399 middle of the plan, and it's like wait until, like 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.520 you've gotten everything else done, then stab each other. Don't 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:14.320