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Speaker 1: to the Dan Patrick Show Memorial Day edition. And don't

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Speaker 1: forget what Memorial Day is all about. Dan and the

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Speaker 1: But the show must go on, and Doug Gottlieb and

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Speaker 1: Rob Parker have picked up the Manteau broadcasting from the

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Speaker 1: Mercedes Mancin This is the Dan Patrick's Show. Good Marning, ged,

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Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. Rob, you you

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Speaker 1: have I know you have a trip planned to Australia.

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Speaker 1: When are you going to Australia? Yeah, that's in January

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. But this summer, what I like to

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Speaker 1: do and I'm gonna get out is I'm traveling all

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Speaker 1: over the country. What I do is I link up

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Speaker 1: with friends all over the country, go to ball games,

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Speaker 1: baseball games, eat chicken wings, and just spend quality time

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Speaker 1: with people. I love, Doug, just hanging out with people.

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Speaker 1: Conversations and baseball games allow you to do that. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's like you get fresh air, you eat some fun food,

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Speaker 1: and you get to talk to people you don't get

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Speaker 1: to see. And that's all I got planned. I got

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Speaker 1: a trip to Dallas next weekend, and then I'm going

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Speaker 1: I go to a baseball game. Um, okay, But now

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Speaker 1: are you working the whole time? Like when you how

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Speaker 1: do you work? Your show? Is? Your show is seven

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Speaker 1: to ten Eastern time. The Odd Couple, by the way,

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Speaker 1: he and Chris Bruce hard every night on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Do you take those days days off? How do you

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Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? I haven't had a vacation a year

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Speaker 1: and a half, so these are all just time off

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Speaker 1: take some time to, you know, recharge the battery. I'm

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Speaker 1: normally you know, Doug, we work on holidays together all

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Speaker 1: the time. I'm a worker. I'm cool with a double shift.

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Speaker 1: I did a column for dead Spin already this morning,

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Speaker 1: working with you, and for the Dan Patrick Show and

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Speaker 1: then The Odd Couple tonight. And this is typical for me.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a family. I'm just like

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Speaker 1: a single guy. And if I'm not on a trip

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Speaker 1: work if unless if I was on a trip or

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Speaker 1: do that. But if I really don't have plans, I'm

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Speaker 1: all into work. You know, it's interesting. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't endure, I don't take I haven't taken like a

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Speaker 1: week off. I think I've worked for Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: four years. I don't think i've I've taken a straight

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Speaker 1: week off. Is that right? In four years? Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: taken time occasionally. Uh yeah, I mean like my first

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Speaker 1: played in Israel, and I do think I took a

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Speaker 1: I actually did ten shows from from Israel. Um, so

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Speaker 1: it can be done. But one of the reasons I

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Speaker 1: don't take enough time off one is I'm an idiot too.

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Speaker 1: I'm like that Jay Leno thing. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Probably probably pretty accurate. Okay, you gotta let that go,

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Speaker 1: right and then but the other thing is like stuff

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Speaker 1: if you're Dan right, Like if you're Dan and right,

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Speaker 1: and like Friday, you signed off and the Clippers were

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Speaker 1: Game three, the Mavericks are up nineteen points. They lose

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, the Lakers have a real

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Speaker 1: could happen. Maybe Anthony Davis recovers quickly. You know, Doug

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Speaker 1: in the season he had an issue. Does that go away?

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Speaker 1: How does that get better? You know? Will that impact him?

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can carry him through the whole playoffs.

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Speaker 1: got to get back to old school play through Lebron.

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Speaker 1: The problem is like, okay, are you gonna use Marcusol

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Speaker 1: fascinating to me, you know, fascinating me to see what

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Speaker 1: On Friday, Chris Boussar and I had this conversation about

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Speaker 1: the situation with the Mavericks and Luca. But this could

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Speaker 1: And I remember that day, Doug. That night I wrote

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Speaker 1: game which you have to survive, right, you just you

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Speaker 1: they move forward. It's happened for everybody, every you know,

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Speaker 1: I do. I think it'd be unfair. It is completely

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Speaker 1: unfair if you hold the rest of these playoffs against

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Speaker 1: Lebron as a referendum for his overall greatness. Okay, because

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Speaker 1: But no what like the starting center for the Warriors

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Speaker 1: get all the numbers, I've seen all the threes, half

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Speaker 1: If you're that guy, you gotta win one game, Doug

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Speaker 1: for your team on that season, one game. They also

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Speaker 1: when I look at that, and I'm not taking anything

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Speaker 1: It had never been done in the history of the

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Speaker 1: And that's why you know, you know you they didn't

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Speaker 1: have two of their starters that but Raymond Green missed

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Speaker 1: one game, not three games. Dog only had to win

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Speaker 1: one game with the caval with the Cavaliers. With the Cavaliers,

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Speaker 1: the Warriors were just so incredibly They won seventy three

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Speaker 1: games all year, and they lost three games in a row. Right, No,

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Speaker 1: they look, they went they clearly they went for it

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Speaker 1: in a regular season, whereas many other teams dialed it back. Right,

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Speaker 1: they went for it. They were they were, and they

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Speaker 1: were a bit ahead of the curve as other teams

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Speaker 1: and look at at d rosters like Kyrie and Steph.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'd take step ahead of Kyrie, but it's

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Speaker 1: not buy so much. And Okay, so you have Claire Lebron, Like,

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Speaker 1: kids that hadn't played a bunch at like that level,

426
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: and we got behind. We actually had a kid foul

427
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: out and played better four on five. They just started

428
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: hooping and stopped thinking. Wow. Yeah, So anyway, it's a

429
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: great learning lesson for him. But except for like, so,

430
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: so I had a dad say, well, you know, my

431
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: son was really rounded because the parents, And I was like, so,

432
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: I watched the tape and there's parents standing right next

433
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Speaker 1: to the goal, like yelling at our kids when they're

434
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: shooting shots, and like, what's the matter with you? It

435
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: starts right there, like you can't purport yourself reasonably well

436
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: when your kids playing one of what will be a

437
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: thousand games, right, And we don't call out that behavior,

438
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: And then we go to we popularize people getting in fights,

439
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: like you're the we all. The truth is that most

440
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of America thinks you're the biggest a

441
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: hole and idiot if you're get in a fight in

442
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: the stands. But sometimes these guys get like, oh, look

443
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: at that punch. Oh my god, and now I'm guilty

444
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: of doing it as well, Like I'm sitting there watching

445
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: this is amazing. But then like you saw the Dodger

446
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: fan knock out the Astro fan, right, but then his

447
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: little kids sitting there cracking, like what are we doing? Right?

448
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: So this is right? I don't like I could be wrong,

449
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: like we have this, you know. And And unfortunately, because

450
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: Kyrie kind of stoked the fire and talked about the

451
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: racism and it's a white kid though he's wearing a

452
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett jersey, throws the bottle, people think that there's racism.

453
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's racism. I just think that people

454
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: are a holes and they drink a little bit and

455
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: they take out their frustration on the athletes. Am I.

456
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: And everyone knows what the reasonable line is. Shouldn't curse

457
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: it somebody? You can boo them. You can try and

458
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: make up funny thing like the Trey Young is balding

459
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: thing whatever. Okay, funny thing is a bunch of fat

460
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: ball guys yelling at Trey Young for for having thin,

461
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: wispy mix Ray's hair. Whatever. But when you start saying

462
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Speaker 1: f Trey Young, like you've crossed the line. Now you're

463
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: just gross and and and those are the people that

464
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: you become the shoe bomber. Right, the shoe bombert routed

465
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 1: for everybody. No one had to take off their shoes before,

466
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, going on to an airplane until this shoe

467
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: bomber guy put some bomb in his shoes. Right, That's

468
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: what happened last night in Boston. We all don't we

469
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 1: all don't want to have those those cups and have

470
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: the you know, the new straws that are made out

471
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: of fabric, made out of paper. But that's what we're

472
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: gonna get to. Because one idiot throws a plastic bottle

473
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Speaker 1: at an NBA Superstar. Yep, that's where we are. That's

474
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Speaker 1: where we are. That's a snapshot of all of us

475
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: because one idiot makes us all look that bad. Kurt

476
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: Healing joins us lead NBA rider at NBC Sports dot Com. Um, look,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you pick. What do you think the bigger

478
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: story is the one in the two series with LA

479
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: teams or what happened in Boston yesterday. Wow, that's a

480
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: good one. I'm leaning towards the LA. Maybe that's just

481
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: recency bias because I'm with you. I've kind of grown

482
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: almost weary of writing about morons. Um, you know, throwing

483
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: a bottle or spitting on tree young or whatever. It is,

484
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: something popcorn on Russ it's it's I'm with you. It's

485
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a societal thing and I'm I'm

486
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Speaker 1: in it's alcohol driven. And you know, I was listening

487
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Speaker 1: to your story. I'm a dad with two kids who

488
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: play travel club soccer out here in southern California. End

489
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: up seen seen parents yelling at refs, seen behavior, and

490
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I've got to be better. I can't. I

491
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Speaker 1: can't yell at the ref and I can't. I don't

492
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Speaker 1: want to model that for my kid, and I've got

493
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Speaker 1: to find a way. So I think that, yeah, that

494
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: kind of runs through society, by the way, I should add.

495
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: I can watch NBA games all day long and think, man,

496
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't know about that call, but you know, the

497
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: refs are human. And then I go to soccer games

498
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: and I'm convinced that, you know, every ref has it

499
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Speaker 1: out for my daughter in southern California. It's like they're

500
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: all they're clearly targeting or oh yeah, they don't want

501
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: her to succeed? Why are you doing that to my daughter?

502
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: So I get I'm weary of that story, but I

503
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: get why. It's just kind of a thing right now,

504
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: and it's it ties into you know, it becomes a

505
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: player's safety thing and stuff. The flips in LA are

506
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: surprising that the Lakers, I guess it's really just more

507
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: about health. But the Clipper story has been really fascinating

508
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: because that is just such a turn of Kurt Kurt,

509
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you tell me. I mean, first, I

510
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: get Rick Carlisle always does it. But the Clippers were

511
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: not ready to play on Friday night. They were not ready.

512
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: They were tight and Luca was two, they would down

513
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: because kicking their ass. They're up seventy nineteen points and

514
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: he takes them out because of rotations. Like well, at

515
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: the end of the quarter in four and a half minutes,

516
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: it's a three point game, Like you had their foot

517
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: on their neck. You're like, you know, get up, let's

518
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: let's do this again, Like what are you? What are

519
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: you doing? And to go from that where I mean,

520
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: you're looking, you're watching Steve Bomber and like, I'm not

521
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, but I do think that Steve

522
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: Bomber is the type of guy that everybody runs the

523
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: possibility of getting fired if they lose this game and

524
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: then get swept out of the playoffs. Two. Now I

525
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: don't see away in which they don't win this series

526
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: with Luca banged up. Yeah, Lucas Luca guiding banged up

527
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Speaker 1: as part of it. The other thing is that they're

528
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: they shot in including Game three, they shot over fifty

529
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: percent from three as a team, And unless your last

530
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: name is Gottlie, that's just unsustainable, right, Like nobody I'm

531
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: fifty percent from the free throw line, Kurge, So let's

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00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate I appreciate that. I appreciate that great. Um No,

533
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Speaker 1: they they were, they were red hot until last night.

534
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: But the other thing that happened. And I do love

535
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: this about ty Lou as a coach. When he finds

536
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: a play that works, or he finds a matchup that's

537
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: his his advantage, he goes to it. It's back to

538
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland days. Hey, this matchup works. We're gonna go at

539
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: you over and over and over again. We're gonna run

540
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: this play over and over again until you stop it. Well,

541
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: he found something with that small ball line up with

542
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: Nick Batoum at center, the shot blocking machine. It worked,

543
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: though Dallas does not have an answer for it, and like,

544
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: all right, we're starting at next. I mean, what is it?

545
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: What is it? Necessity is the root of all invention?

546
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: Is that right? Use that right? And and so I

547
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: don't know if they go to that, if Sergebaka doesn't

548
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: get hurt, Surgebaca doesn't play on Friday, they were forced

549
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: to do it almost right, And and like Patrick Beverley

550
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: is just too small to play and playing is to

551
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: switch and play that way. But you're right, like, we

552
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: don't give credit to Tylu. You know, we didn't give

553
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: credit to Tyler when they won an NBA championship, come

554
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: from three games to one down, It's it's pretty remarkable.

555
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: On on whatever, whoever in the staff is like, hey,

556
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: let's let's try at something a little different here. Um okay,

557
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask about Kauhi. Can I let me

558
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: ask about Kauai and his numbers? Sixty five percent shooting

559
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: from the field, fifty percent from three h he has

560
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: been I mean, his numbers have been ridiculous. He started

561
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: Game three eight for eight from the field and started

562
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: Game four six for six. What how well is Kauhi playing?

563
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: I think people were ready to dismiss him and say

564
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: that we had overvalued him and over talked him. You know,

565
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: when he won that championship in Toronto, I think there

566
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: was a little that he and he had a quiet

567
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean quietly kind of because I think people didn't

568
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: really give him the credit. He had a really fantastic season,

569
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Speaker 1: like an All NBA level season. Again, he's gonna be

570
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: first second team All NBA. But he is one of

571
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Speaker 1: you know, look, Lebron can carry a team to a championship.

572
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: He's proven it, right, He's He's done it a bunch

573
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Speaker 1: of times. But I think that there are probably three

574
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: or four other guys walk in the face of the

575
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: earth who are capable of raising their game to that

576
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: level for a stretch, not as long as Lebron can,

577
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: but they Kawi is one of them. We saw him

578
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: kind of do it actually, you know in San Antonio,

579
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: he did it in Toronto. He is capable of putting

580
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: his a team on his back for a stretch of games.

581
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: And he's got some help now with you know, Paul

582
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: George out here and stuff. The Clippers confidence is way high,

583
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: is just right backed up now, and that's a team

584
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: that's just they seemed more comfortable and playing better around

585
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: each other this year than last year. It's honestly, it's

586
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: a little tougher to tell as a reporter because you're

587
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: not in the locker room this year, and the vibe

588
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: is different. But that was a team last year that

589
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: felt entitled and this year kind of clearly did not.

590
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: But now seem to have that confidence and hey, we

591
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: can actually do this. We've got a matchups that work

592
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: for us. It's it is remarkable. Let's let's get to

593
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: the let's get to the Lakers. Cre heline joined us

594
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: lead NBA writer for NBC Sports dot Com fom on

595
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: Twitter at Basketball Talk. How big of trouble are the

596
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: LA Lakers. I mean they love this matchup. I mean

597
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: think about it though, Like Game three, Lebron's back in.

598
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: I think he's back in. Jay Crowder down and and

599
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: Andre Drummond is mimicking me him on the sideline. They're

600
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: having fun, they're laughing, they're goofing, and You're like, they

601
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: know Phoenix can't beat him, can't beat him. It's just

602
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: a bad matchup for Phoenix. And and Chris Paul's hurt,

603
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, Chris Paul

604
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: does a Willis Reid last night. Andy Davis gets hurt,

605
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: and they never I think seven was the closest that

606
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: got to in the fourth quarter for Jay Crowder hits

607
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: the three to make it ten. And now it's a

608
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: completely different series. What are your thoughts on the can

609
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: Can Lebron still carry a team too? They got to

610
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: win two out of the next three. Forget about the

611
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: rest of the playoffs, just two out of the next three.

612
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: Can they do it? If Lebron have to do it

613
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: without Anthony Davis? I'm not sure that they can because

614
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: this is a good Phoenix team, and this team didn't

615
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: win well, I'm gonna say fifty regular season games whatever

616
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: it was on accident. Chris Paul, You're right, Chris Paul

617
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: is critical for them. When he's hitting that mid range,

618
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: then you can't you can't just help off him. They

619
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: were helping off him to go, you know, go good,

620
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: go get Booker. Suddenly everything else opens up and then

621
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: that everything kind of gets crowded, and you know there's

622
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: more room for the crowders and the starches and everybody

623
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: else out there. Um, I think they're in trouble. I

624
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: just look, Lakers are a top heavy roster, with all

625
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: due respect to Shrewder and Cruso and Kuzma, a roster

626
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: built around having two of the five best players walk

627
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: in the face of the earth playing well together. And

628
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: you can't stop it. And if Anthony Davis isn't playing,

629
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: and it's Grade one sprain, So we'll see if he's strained,

630
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: I should say, so, we'll see if he's out there.

631
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: But if he is, he's still going to be limited.

632
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we've you me, we've all listened. We've all

633
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: had that growing thing where you you're walking around. You're walking,

634
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: you're walking the dog, and it's fine. But the first

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Speaker 1: time you try to plantoff it and run or jump,

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Speaker 1: you know, right, and it's easy to aggravate if he

637
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Speaker 1: can't go. I never want to bet against Lebron, but

638
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Speaker 1: I just don't think this roster was built to win

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Speaker 1: in a playoff type setting against a good team without

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. Um. Let's I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: that Knicks Hawks series. I picked the Hawks in that

642
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: series because I didn't know where the Knicks were going

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Speaker 1: to get enough points. And Julius Randall turned into Orange

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Speaker 1: Julius in this playoffs? What do you make of the

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00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: Knicks and what happened here? Is it just Julius their

646
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: best player all year? How a stinker? Is there still

647
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Speaker 1: Orange Julius anywhere? Everywhere? Used to be so good? What

648
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: was that creamy orange drink that they used to make?

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Speaker 1: It was, I don't know what it was. It was pretty,

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Speaker 1: it was it was fantastic. Yeah, I don't I don't

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00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: know where those are anybody. Those things were amazing, Um

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Speaker 1: they um that way. I picked the Hawks in the

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Speaker 1: series for the same thing, and like, look, in a

654
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: playoff series, he struggled. Don't get me wrong, He's struggled

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Speaker 1: on the stage. But the other part of that is

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Speaker 1: in a playoff series, even if you're dealing with Lebron

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Speaker 1: or Durant or Curry or whoever, if I throw enough

658
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: at player one, I can make life difficult, right, I

659
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: can make it tough for them to really control. I

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00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: can make it They're not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: just take over the game. And where was their secondary

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00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: scoring going to come from? RJ? Barrett, Like, who was

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00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: going to step up and be their secondary score? And

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00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: the answer has been nobody, really, Like, they've made life

665
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Speaker 1: difficult for Randall. Randall struggled a little bit, and there

666
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: isn't another answer. This is a team that got by

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Speaker 1: all season and on out working you, which is I

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Speaker 1: don't want to take anything away from him. They played

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Speaker 1: hard and they played smart all season. Bet when you

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Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, everybody's playing hard now. And they

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00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: played good defense, and they have played decent, pretty good

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Speaker 1: defense in the series. But the Hawks just have more weapons.

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Speaker 1: It's not just Trey Young. If you take if you

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Speaker 1: make life difficult for Trey Young, They've got John Collins,

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00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: They've got Bob Danovich. They've got a good defense back

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Speaker 1: there with the Pello like, they have other scoring options,

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Speaker 1: you know, bring Lou Williams off the bench. They've got

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Speaker 1: other scoring options other than just Trey Young, and the

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00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: Knicks just don't have that unfortunately. Yeah, I would also say,

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Speaker 1: I mean Trey has been magnificent. Let's let's not unders

681
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: undersell it. I mean, he doesn't if they don't leave

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Speaker 1: him out as long as Nate left him out in

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Speaker 1: Game two, this series might might might already be over.

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Speaker 1: I also think that they're also they're built for the

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Speaker 1: twenty first century, whereas the Knicks are not. You know,

686
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Speaker 1: Derrick Rose has become a viable three point shooter, but

687
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Speaker 1: that's not who he truly is. Jerome Randall, I mean,

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00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: Julius Randall keeps taking three, He's not he made two

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Speaker 1: of four, but he's he's more of a mid range,

690
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: face up drive you sort of guy, you know, RJ. Barrett. Like,

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Speaker 1: they're they're kind of built for the nineties more than

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Speaker 1: they're built for the twenty first century, as opposed to

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Speaker 1: the Hawks that you know, they made thirteen threes, They

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00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: spread you out, they make their they get free throws,

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00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: they get easy twos and you know, and floaters and

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Speaker 1: layups and and threes. They play more twenty first century basketball.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of what's on display. Kurt.

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Speaker 1: It's been great catching up with you. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Have it happened moral day. We'll talk to you very soon.

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00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: And stop yelling at the refs. All right, Well, if

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Speaker 1: they stopped targeting my daughter, we'd be all good, said

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Speaker 1: he lines. Kid. I hate that guy's columns alladium. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take it out on his on his daughter. Coming

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Speaker 1: up coming up next? Uh Naomi osaka is um she's

705
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: she's going on Marshawn Lynch on the tennis tennis media.

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Speaker 1: Does she have a point we'll discuss next than Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick show. I'm here so I won't get fined. Fox

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Speaker 1: I don't know mclevin's back. He was apparently out here

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Speaker 1: on the on the coast. Maybe that's why they had

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Speaker 1: tofu instead of Meat Friday. The whole thing is very disappointing.

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Speaker 1: If there's one guy who's gonna get voted off the island,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be the one. Have you ever had tofu?

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00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: Sure it's good, but you can't have tofu on meat Friday?

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00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: Like that's just that's a that's a violation of not

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00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: only Dan patrick man code, but general man code. Mean

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Speaker 1: Friday meat that fake me not. You know, I can't

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Speaker 1: do any of that stuff. I just just cannot. Just

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Speaker 1: let me eat, and you know, when my time is

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Speaker 1: done on Earth, I'll move on. I mean, I never

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Speaker 1: had good I never had the meatless meatless meeting. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing that I'm not gonna try it. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. You'll travel the Seven Seas, you'll go to

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Speaker 1: every content, but you're not gonna be like, hey, you

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Speaker 1: don't like I think sustainable better for me. I tried

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Speaker 1: it one time because I was going into a Hamburger

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Speaker 1: I can't remember what when it was, and they offered

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Speaker 1: me a five dollar gift card if I would try

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Speaker 1: one of those burgers, and the only stipulation that you

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Speaker 1: had to eat the whole thing. And so I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, let me, let me, let me order it,

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Speaker 1: let me try it. I'll try it. I'm not gonna

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00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: be Fred flint Stone. Let me see if this is

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Speaker 1: any good. And it was awful, the texture, the taste

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Speaker 1: it was. I was, I mean, he's gonna fake hamburger.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. About three or four, three years ago,

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Speaker 1: I was eating a fake hamburger because they were just

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Speaker 1: introducing it to Carls Junior. That was the restaurant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I and Doug. It just didn't It didn't taste right,

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Speaker 1: it didn't feel right. If you try it and you

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00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: don't like it, that's okay. Yeah, I do wonder I

753
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Speaker 1: wonder you tried it and not know what it was.

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Speaker 1: What your reaction would have been. Yeah, I get It's

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00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: like it's like it's like you wait till somebody's does

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Speaker 1: like you know, it's just like it's like somebody like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you want to try some minudo? Sure, what is it about?

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Speaker 1: Just try it? Like, okay, now I tell you what

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00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: menudo is? Like wait right right? I know that part.

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00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: There was a there was a mental aspect to that

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Speaker 1: when people don't know, right, definitely didn't people They do

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00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: that all the time for a hypochondriact. Give them sure

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Speaker 1: her pills or if you know, like pills, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be good. Take three of these every day

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00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: and they think they're taking something and then all of

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00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: a sudden they feel better even though they're not taking anything.

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00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: It's called the placebo effect. Let's let's get to nailmi Osaka,

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Speaker 1: who won, but she got fined because she won't talk

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Speaker 1: to the media because she said her mental health is

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Speaker 1: at risk essentially by talking to the media. I'm out

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Speaker 1: on that. I'm not buying it. A matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: I wrote a column on deadspin dot com. You could

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Speaker 1: check it out. I think she's all the way wrong here,

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Speaker 1: and if she has and I'm not discounting her having

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00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: a mental issue, health issue, and if she does, I

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00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: wish you would step aside and get some help, relax,

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Speaker 1: do whatever it makes her to do whatever you have

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00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: to do to make yourself feel better. But coming and

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Speaker 1: playing tennis and doing everything else except talking to the media.

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Speaker 1: I just have an issue with It's a part of

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Speaker 1: your job. It's a part of the the conduct Code, right,

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Speaker 1: which which all the tournaments Grand Slam tournaments pointed out

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Speaker 1: that this is what you sign up for a dog

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Speaker 1: when you become a professional tennis player. And if you

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Speaker 1: can't do those things, you can't do everything that they

786
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: need you to do, then don't play. I just think,

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Speaker 1: I look, I don't you know. I don't like the

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Speaker 1: idea of what she can play and that doesn't affect

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Speaker 1: her mental health, but she can't meet with the media.

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Speaker 1: I think the big thing is athletes, and this is

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Speaker 1: people in general. We don't appreciate what the media is

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Speaker 1: actually here for. Right, You're actually here to educate the

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Speaker 1: public and in sports, to make you want to watch.

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Speaker 1: She's a great story, she's a great player, and I

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Speaker 1: can't think of any line of questioning which has been

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Speaker 1: so out of line towards Naomi Osaka that you go like, hey,

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Speaker 1: that may help affect her mental health. I call bull

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Speaker 1: That's what I do. And I think a good portion

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Speaker 1: of it is the association with negativity towards the media

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Speaker 1: and kind of feeding into that like, oh, there's like

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00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: what tennis media is such is you know, is going

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00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: to go after you and chase you down for some

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Speaker 1: hard hitting story. I don't and and and where and

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Speaker 1: where was that when they were writing the story about

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00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: her and her support for Black Lives Matter last June

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Speaker 1: and people taking to the streets and the media doing

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Speaker 1: story after story about athletes standing up. Doug, do you

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00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: remember those stories? Sure? The same media that you can't

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00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: stand wrote those stories. I take I take personal. Uh

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Speaker 1: it bothers me as a journalist for thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: When people try to discount the media, I think it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You would hate to live in a world without the

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Speaker 1: media real quick, Philly or Washington over as of tonight?

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Speaker 1: Yes you you? I agree? Utah Memphis in Memphis, does

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Speaker 1: Memphis draw even tonight? No? I think Utah wins. I agree,

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Speaker 1: And I think people are starting to see why Rudy

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Speaker 1: Gobert is as good and as as as handsomely compensated

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Speaker 1: as he can be. For Rob Parker, I'm Doug Gottlie.

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Speaker 1: Have a great Memorial Day. This is Dan Patrick Show.

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