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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark vander mayor

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you as we kick off Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access once again. I hope you had a great holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: If you had a holiday weekend, some people worked over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, Johnny, guess what John Harris is with us?

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Speaker 1: Of course, as I previously mentioned, Vander Kidd is working

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Speaker 1: as a lifeguard. He's fifteen years old and he's working

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Speaker 1: as a lifeguard, which is a great gig to have.

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Speaker 1: I never worked as one, but man, that's a cool job.

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Speaker 1: And he worked over the weekend on both holidays July

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Speaker 1: fourth and July fifth, So I was proud of him

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Speaker 1: for that. And you know, he's a lifeguard. He's sitting

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Speaker 1: in a chair watching people go swimming. You know, usually

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Speaker 1: there's no danger involved, but there could be, and he's

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Speaker 1: ready for action just in case. But I was. I

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Speaker 1: brought that up because I thought about people working during

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Speaker 1: the holiday weekend, and he did, so I thought that

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Speaker 1: was cool. Well, okay, I have questions, maybe maybe just

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Speaker 1: one all right? As a lifeguard there of course, when

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Speaker 1: you grow up in the eighties and then then the nineties,

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Speaker 1: there was a famous show that was on television Baywatch, Baywatch, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it always seemed like the lifeguards and they watch always.

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Speaker 1: You know, they had advantages because they were lifeguards, if

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Yes you will. Yeah, does

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Speaker 1: Vander Kidd have those such advantages because he's a lifeguard?

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Speaker 1: Is it assisting him in that department? Well, he's fifteen,

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Speaker 1: so it's a little early maybe for some of those advantages.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think that you got to let

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Speaker 1: the process play out a little bit here. I did

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Speaker 1: show him the intro to the old Baywatch show, I

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Speaker 1: will let you out of my side. You know, they're running,

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Speaker 1: And I showed him that because look, this was on

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Speaker 1: regular network television, right, So you see David has it

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Speaker 1: was Pamela Lee. Then when I showed him, said Pamela Lee.

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Speaker 1: So I guess she completely changed her name for a

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Speaker 1: while when she was married to Tommy Lee. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: then went back. I didn't expect to start the show

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Speaker 1: like this at all, but we just did. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there was a move be in the seventies called Lifeguard

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Speaker 1: with Sam Elliott. It might have been his first movie ever.

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Speaker 1: It was certainly his first starring role, and he's known

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Speaker 1: for playing Patrick Swayzey's friend in Roadhouse, and a bunch

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Speaker 1: of supporting type characters as the gruff older guy. Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he was a young man in this movie called Lifeguard. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I digressed. All right, let's get out to this now.

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Speaker 1: I gotta admit. Can I admit to something to you?

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Speaker 1: I've already admitted to you two things today. One of

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Speaker 1: the two things. One are the two things that I

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Speaker 1: admitted to you today that you were just dumbfounded? You

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Speaker 1: have never seen Scarface? Yes, that's one. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what to say about that. Was it

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Speaker 1: another thing you haven't seen? I forgot about that? There

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Speaker 1: was another? There was another movie and I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: remember which one I admitted to not seeing. Um the

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Speaker 1: second one I can't remember. But I'm not seen Roadhouse either.

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Speaker 1: What yes, stop the show. What we're gonna do is

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Speaker 1: mister s theater radio and just role Roadhouse here with

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Speaker 1: some the brilliant lines and Roadhouse like pain don't Hurt.

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Speaker 1: There are some really amazing Shakespearean type lines from that film. Look,

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Speaker 1: it's a B movie, but it's one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: B movies ever made. And Swayze is a Houstonian, so

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Speaker 1: we just have to respect that. Yes, Pain Don't Hurt.

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Speaker 1: You know that would be a great game. Is this

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Speaker 1: Roadhouse or Friday Night Lights, Pain Don't Hurt? I would

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Speaker 1: probably go Friday Night Lines. It's Roadhouse. Now. I have

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Speaker 1: seen Friday at Lights, the TV show and the movie,

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Speaker 1: but I have not seen Roadhouse. I have not seen

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know what else. It was the

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Speaker 1: Cocaine Cowboys documentary made by Bumentary, and I love documentary,

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Speaker 1: so I gotta definitely see that one. And he made

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Speaker 1: the You on the thirty for thirty series, and he's

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Speaker 1: a University of Miami guy. He knows Miami and the

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Speaker 1: Cocaine Cowboys is all about Miami and it's phenomenal. And

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Speaker 1: I lived in the building that they feature in that

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Speaker 1: documentary and they've ripped it down since it was at

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Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with them, by the way,

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Speaker 1: but that building was in the documentary. So you and

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Speaker 1: I've talked about from a college football standpoint, this nil stuff.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this This this guy, I guess he's

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Speaker 1: a boot. I guess you'd call him a booster. Who

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Speaker 1: is paying every Miami Hurricane player on the ninety man

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Speaker 1: is he's paying them, I think it's six thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: All they've got to do is tweet this. But I

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Speaker 1: was I was like, WHOA. And they asked him. He

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Speaker 1: did an interview and they asked him about it. He

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Speaker 1: just said, I want the Hurricanes to come back, and

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Speaker 1: if this helps in any way, shape or form, and

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Speaker 1: so be it. This is what the NCAA was so

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Speaker 1: completely worried about. Was this that boosters putting something together

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Speaker 1: like this. I guarantee you there are some boosters at

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Speaker 1: some other places going all right, all right, let's go.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna give him five thousand, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: give him twenty thousand. Let's rock and roll. It's very

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Speaker 1: really interesting to watch. This story is crazy coming on

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Speaker 1: my end, there has to be some fair market value

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Speaker 1: to this, right, So how is that determined? How is

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Speaker 1: that investigated? And again, value is a very tricky thing

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Speaker 1: to determine in social media influencer fees, right, which is

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Speaker 1: what a lot of this is. Let's be honest, it's

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Speaker 1: not like every kid in college, every player on that

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Speaker 1: roster is going to do a commercial for a car dealership. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm the third string putter, and I recommend you go

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Speaker 1: down too. I mean, it's not going to work out

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Speaker 1: that way, right, So social media, the social media avenue,

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Speaker 1: at least not you and I together, I still think

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Speaker 1: that it's going to come down to a few players

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Speaker 1: begrudge anybody for making living are a few extra bucks

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Speaker 1: legally however they want to do it. But I really

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Speaker 1: believe it's for the guys who what's the name of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback at Spencer Ratler right at Oklahoma. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what he's got on a table yet, but we

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Speaker 1: know that there have been some things going on in

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Speaker 1: Norman over the years, local car dealerships, etc. That have

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Speaker 1: benefited players under the table. Well, now you can go

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Speaker 1: the right way, so to speak. Rather has got his

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Speaker 1: Oh good, are those are just the ones that we

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Speaker 1: know of. Yeah. This guy's name is Dan Lambert and

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Speaker 1: he is the founder of American Top Team and it's

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Speaker 1: it has to do with MMA, and he said, American

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Speaker 1: a contract, that's five hundred and forty thousand to administer

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Speaker 1: the deal. Lambert has created Bring back to You, a

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Speaker 1: new marketing agency design to connect businesses with Miami players

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Speaker 1: for nil opportunities. It's going to be run on a

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Speaker 1: day to day basis by Kendrick Norton, who Trinity Christian

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Speaker 1: kind of be the liaison in between. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't think this is the one thing that brings it back,

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Speaker 1: but it's a very interesting approach, to say the least

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Speaker 1: For instance, if I'm a car dealer, I'll just go

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Speaker 1: with that example again, and I want to get so

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Speaker 1: whatever it was, it was a long time. We all

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Speaker 1: medical rentuers whatever he did. But if I'm the local

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Speaker 1: do my commercials, well, I've got to amplify that. Now.

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Speaker 1: really know keenom best. Right, I'm gonna have to buy

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Speaker 1: maybe some extra advertising or advertising in the first place.

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Speaker 1: On those radio broadcasts. However, I can get into the

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Speaker 1: go wrong, so to speak. But look, Johnny, the big

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Speaker 1: it's due. We're due for this kind of thing. I

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Speaker 1: it was pretty well paying. But I didn't have a scholarship,

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Speaker 1: so I could do it. But scholarship athletes couldn't They

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Speaker 1: couldn't make any money at all. They couldn't make money

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Speaker 1: on February, play the NBA Finals in July. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: there's not a tongue going on July. It's kind of

429
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Speaker 1: to me it fits well. I would like to see

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Speaker 1: just the entire NBA regular season move, just move. It

431
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Speaker 1: started at Christmas. I don't know if you can get

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Speaker 1: the requisite amount of games in so I know it

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Speaker 1: will never never happen, but I like this, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: It as a sports fan. After watching today the Italy

435
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Speaker 1: Spain Euro twenty twenty, which is now twenty twenty one,

436
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Speaker 1: and you can figure that one out. But after watching

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Speaker 1: that game and it's like penalty kicks. I mean, it

438
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: was just an amazing game. There was an amazing second half,

439
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Speaker 1: extra time penalty kicks and Italy comes out on top

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Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, you're Revens so hot. You're like,

441
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Speaker 1: what's next. Well, if it's a normal July, you wouldn't

442
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Speaker 1: have anything next, but instead you can get geared up

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Speaker 1: for Bucks and Sons tonight, which which I love. That

444
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Speaker 1: is it always gonna be Bucks and Sons, you know,

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Speaker 1: two teams that maybe the country is not as familiar with,

446
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Speaker 1: and it's probably gonna have a Lebron or a Durant

447
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Speaker 1: in it at some you know, at some point down

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Speaker 1: the road. But I like the July Finals, I really do.

449
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Speaker 1: I just I just think there's open there's wide open

450
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Speaker 1: spaces to jump into, and I think the MBA. I

451
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Speaker 1: don't want to say dumb luck in some sense. But

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Speaker 1: if they could push it back so that July would

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Speaker 1: be that would be that point. I think that would

454
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Speaker 1: be a nice little sweet spot for the NBA to

455
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Speaker 1: fine and then the beginning of its season. It's still

456
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Speaker 1: interacts with the NFL and coued football, but if you

457
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Speaker 1: do it by Christmas, at least couched football is pretty

458
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Speaker 1: much done other than this playoff. So I just know,

459
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Speaker 1: I know you can't do that because you're gonna take

460
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Speaker 1: away how many of her games to be able to

461
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Speaker 1: do that, and you're not Look, you're already load managing

462
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Speaker 1: these guys as it is, so you can't play a

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Speaker 1: bunch of back to backs and try and squeeze all

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Speaker 1: those eighty two games in from December through April. You're

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Speaker 1: just not gonna be able to do it. But I

466
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Speaker 1: think it would end up helping the sport such that

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Speaker 1: you would have this stage every single year in July.

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Speaker 1: What are you get, maazing League Baseball Star Game? Okay,

469
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Speaker 1: one night and that's okay, great, but if you have

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Speaker 1: the finals four, ten, twelve days in July, I mean,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, I think it would be fabulous if you

472
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Speaker 1: had that every single year. So I like it. July

473
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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure I would, but then I got to July,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, what am I gonna watch tonight? Oh? Yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: Sons and Bucks are on. I think it's gonna be

476
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Speaker 1: a really good sports day. And obviously Euro twenty twenty

477
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Speaker 1: already helped out, so having Bucks and Sons tonight it's

478
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Speaker 1: gonna be nice. So is there an NFL quarterback equivalent

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Speaker 1: of point guard Chris Paul? Is there somebody like that

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Speaker 1: maybe who hasn't bounced around quite as much, especially as Paul,

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Speaker 1: who's played on what his third different team in three

482
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Speaker 1: years right now, and that doesn't include where he started.

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Speaker 1: But you know, as Stafford, is he that a quarterback

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Speaker 1: who's regarded that highly, who's never been to a five Finals,

485
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Speaker 1: never been to a Super Bowl? Heck, he's never been

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Speaker 1: to a conference championship game. I don't know if there is.

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Speaker 1: That just kind of popped into my head there, because

488
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Speaker 1: usually the guys who've been around for a long time,

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks who have they've gotten there, They've gotten at

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Speaker 1: least that close. They might not have won the thing,

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Speaker 1: but they've gotten that close. And you just don't have

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Speaker 1: too many guys like that. I'll tell you what. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you one guy. Okay, and you're not gonna like this,

494
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Speaker 1: but you've got Dan Fouts. You got Dan Fouts. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of numbers, very productive, was the leader of

496
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Speaker 1: that Chargers team and just couldn't just couldn't get to

497
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Speaker 1: a super Bowl. Just didn't have the defense to do it.

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Speaker 1: I thought about Elway, but I'm like, na Elway got

499
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Speaker 1: there three super Bowls. Yeah, he got there three times

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Speaker 1: and was able to capitalize on the final two. I'm

501
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Speaker 1: sure there's probably somebody that that we're forgetting, but that's

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Speaker 1: to me, that's the that's the way that comes to

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Speaker 1: mind is Dan Fouts and Warren Moon. Maybe Warre Moods.

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Speaker 1: I think warm would be a great one. I think

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Speaker 1: that is. I think he's a great one. Now, if

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul ends up winning this thing, oh what a story, boy,

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Speaker 1: Then who does he become at that point, you know

508
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Speaker 1: he suns end up winning this who does he become?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you I can think of a certain insurance

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Speaker 1: company that's very happy he's in this deal. Right now, Johnny,

511
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Speaker 1: we're gonna play who's better next? And speaking of quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: I've got a journeyman quarterback question for you. I've got

513
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Speaker 1: former Texans questions as well coming up next, and Who's Better?

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Speaker 1: On Texans Radio, It's Mark Vandermarin John Harris with you

515
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Speaker 1: keeping your company on Texans Radio. Johnny, are you ready

516
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Speaker 1: to play the game we played almost every Tuesday of

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Speaker 1: the year called Who's Better? Yeah, let's go, all right,

518
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Speaker 1: let's do it, all right, I'm gonna go journeyman quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: for you right here, and it's the current guy against

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Speaker 1: a semi vintage guy. Who's better? Johnny, Ryan Fitzpatrick or

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Speaker 1: Vinny Testaverdi? Is it Vinny or Ryan? Okay, who's better? Now?

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Speaker 1: Just to refresh your memory a little bit on Vinny,

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Speaker 1: of course, we all know what happened in college at

524
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Speaker 1: the Fiesta Bowl when the University of Miami shows up

525
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Speaker 1: at Fatigues, and that didn't work out so well for Vinnie.

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Speaker 1: He did win the Heisman Trophy, though, so Vinny obviously

527
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Speaker 1: much more decorated. Coming into the NFL, played for the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Sobrero Days where in the

529
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Speaker 1: Popsicle Unis that was going okay for a while but

530
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Speaker 1: didn't really pan out. Vinny did win a playoff game

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, right for Bill Belichick when they beat rough

532
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Speaker 1: Bloedstakes and the new in the Patriots, Belichick beats Parcels

533
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Speaker 1: in the postseason. Isn't that wild? Vinnie ends up in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Vinnie ends up with the Jets, with Parcels playing in

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Speaker 1: an AFC championship game. Vinni goes to Dallas. You know,

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Speaker 1: Vinnie ended his career in OH seven with the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. So is it Vinny or is it Fitzy?

538
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Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't have two guys more polar opposite guys.

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Speaker 1: Number one overall pick, Heisman winner out of the University

540
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Speaker 1: of Miami, led his team to a national championship opportunity.

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Speaker 1: He got an Ivy leaguer in the seventh round, just

542
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: kind of kind of kicking rocks together, trying to stay

543
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: in the league, doing whatever he can. And you know,

544
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Speaker 1: Vinnie didn't start off really well. I had a lot

545
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Speaker 1: of to do with the expectations, and in fact, he

546
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: went to the Bucks and the Bucks stunk. But it

547
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: always made me think, man, what if bo Jackson would

548
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: have played football right out of the gate and gone

549
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Speaker 1: to Tampa and played with Vinny. It would have been

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Speaker 1: Vinnie and Bow. It could have been interesting, to say

551
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Speaker 1: the least, but it did. I can't believe I'm gonna

552
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Speaker 1: say this, but I'm gonna go Fitzy. Both of them,

553
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: both of them are quick to throw an interception, both

554
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: of them were quick to take a risk. But I

555
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: would take Fitzy in a one game, gotta win all situation.

556
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Speaker 1: I think I would rely on fitz Yeah, he's gonna makeup.

557
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna make up bone headed play at some point

558
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Speaker 1: where you look across and go. I always when I

559
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: think I'm Fitzy and boneheaded plays. The first thing I

560
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Speaker 1: think about was being in a break in twenty fourteen

561
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: up at Indy and I just hear this banging noise

562
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: on the table and I'm like, that's Andre. Andre was

563
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: mad that that Fitzy didn't slide, and because he didn't

564
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: slide ends up breaking his leg. Anyways, He's he could

565
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: have those boneheaded moments, but he also could make a

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Speaker 1: throw like he did against the Raiders last year, where

567
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Speaker 1: his face mask is being pulled and he just lets

568
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Speaker 1: it fly, drops a dime on the sidelines and the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins end up winning a key game, knocking the Raiders

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Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. I think Fitzy was capable of that. Vinny,

571
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Speaker 1: I don't know was gonna be as high low, But

572
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Speaker 1: I don't know that you're gonna get a clutch play

573
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: like that down to stretch as much with Vinnie. Well, Fitzy,

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Speaker 1: I think you get it. I'm going Fitzy, long live

575
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Speaker 1: the eye of league. All right, Well, I just look,

576
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: Vinnie was so up and down in his career. I'm

577
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: looking at his numbers right now with Parcels and the Jets.

578
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: It gets pretty good. You know. He does put up

579
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Speaker 1: some numbers, he puts up some winning records, and I

580
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Speaker 1: think that enabled him to have an extra five six

581
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Speaker 1: years in the league just based on his performance in

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Speaker 1: New York with Parcels. It's a tough call for sure.

583
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Speaker 1: All Right, who's better Johnny former Texans assistant coaches, the

584
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Speaker 1: better head coach. Let's just go, who's better Kyle Shanahan

585
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Speaker 1: or Matt Lafleur. Who's ben go? I don't I don't

586
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Speaker 1: want to say. I hate to say it, but the

587
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: proof is in the pudding. Somebody posted this the other day,

588
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Speaker 1: What is Kyle Shanahan's winning percentage not good. In San Francisco. Well,

589
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Speaker 1: it's four years and one winning season. That was a

590
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Speaker 1: hell of a winning season. They went to the Super

591
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Speaker 1: Bowl and they could have, would have, should and all that,

592
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Speaker 1: But the other three seasons are losing seasons. Now, Lafleur

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Speaker 1: has not had the injury issues at the most important

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Speaker 1: position of the roster, and he's had one of the

595
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Speaker 1: most guys ever to play the position at the most

596
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Speaker 1: important position in the roster. But I gotta say that

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Speaker 1: so far, Lafleur's record, I mean back to back as

598
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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game appearances, that's not too shabby compared to Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: who's only put up one winning season in four years.

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Speaker 1: I think to say, okay, record this record that, But

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Speaker 1: I did they find it interesting. Mike Singletary's winning percentage

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Speaker 1: was point was forty three point eight percent. Shanahans is

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Speaker 1: like forty four point six And to a man, people

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Speaker 1: would say, oh, Kyle Shanahan's a better head coach. And

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Speaker 1: like you said, they have been injury riddled. I mean

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Speaker 1: the first year he doesn't get he doesn't get Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: to the last half of the season, right, then last

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Speaker 1: year or twenty eighteen, Garoppolo gets hurt in the first

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Speaker 1: game or second game of the year. Then nineteen they

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Speaker 1: put it all together and stay healthy and you get

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Speaker 1: all the way in the Super Bowl. Then last year

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Speaker 1: everybody got hurt. I mean everybody got hurt. I think

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur is a really, really good coach, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with Kyle Shanahan on this one. I think

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Speaker 1: when Shanahan's guys stay healthy, I think Shanahan is a

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Speaker 1: guy I would I would go with to win one game.

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Speaker 1: And I listened to a podcast with la Fleur and

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and it was so fun to listen to

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Speaker 1: and I became such a Matt la floor fan just

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Speaker 1: listening to him on that podcast. He did it with

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Speaker 1: Robert salom so good Flying Coach podcast, very good. But

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Shanahan. And by the way, have you

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Speaker 1: seen the video of Shanahan throwing the ball and the

624
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Speaker 1: pizza oven from across the street? Shanahan is. Shanahan is

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Speaker 1: with Joe Staley. They're up on a roof. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where they are. You can see the water in

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Speaker 1: the background. He's up on a roof and Shanahan fires

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Speaker 1: one from his roof across the street and drops it

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Speaker 1: in a pizza oven, and I mean they weigh with nuts.

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Speaker 1: It was It was really cool. It's very very cool,

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Speaker 1: considering Shanahan was not a quarterback. But I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: Shanahan on this one. If all things considered, everybody's staying

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Speaker 1: healthy on both sides. If if Shanahan would have coached

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Speaker 1: the Packers, I think one of those teams with the

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Speaker 1: gout in the Super Bowl. That's a good way to

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Speaker 1: put it. I think you're giving him a tremendous benefit

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Speaker 1: of a doubt. Yes, But but Lafleura has not worked

638
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: through the same type of adversity yet. He's had to

639
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: manage Aaron Rodgers, which is an easier thing to do.

640
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: You would think easy for me today to manage the

641
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: ego of Aaron Rodgers. But it is what it is,

642
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: and I think that's fair. And he's coached for longer.

643
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: So let's see what Lafleur does if Rogers indeed does

644
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: not show up to training camp. All right, Johnny continuing

645
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: to play who is better? Who's gonna be better? First

646
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: time defensive coordinator? These are both former Texans because this

647
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: is our former Texans segment of this segment. Yeah, I

648
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: know where you first time defensive coordinators, Demico Ryan's or

649
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn. Who's better? Who's gonna be better? Aaron Glenn

650
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: at Detroit or Demico Ryans at San Francis going down?

651
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: Demico's got more to work with here. But who's gonna

652
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: be better? Johnny, Yes, they're both gonna be good. They're

653
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: both gonna be good. Man. If you would have said

654
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: to me, which guys are gonna end up being defensive

655
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: coordinators at some point, if they if they decide to coach,

656
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: who who would you pick? I mean, these would be

657
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: the two news would be the two guys you would pick, no,

658
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: no doubt. And it's it's turned out for them, and

659
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: I hope that both have a ton of success. The

660
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: expectation for Demico very very high, very very high, and

661
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: that that could end up working against him. That said,

662
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: he's got a lot to work with and I think

663
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: that's really I think that's really gonna help him out.

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Speaker 1: Everybody stays healthy in San Francisco, that's gonna be a

665
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: whale of a defense. He's got a like minded linebacker

666
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: and Fred Warner that he can. That's his eyes and

667
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: ears on it. That's his Demico out on the field,

668
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: Aaron doesn't have as much to work with. I think

669
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: they'll get there, but he doesn't have as much to

670
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: work with. I think the success will be with Demico

671
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: early on, in large part because Demico has that talent

672
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: to work with. But I do think Aaron Glen's gonna

673
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: be very good and I think his defense gonna take

674
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: significant strides. So if you're kind of comparing Aaron Glenn

675
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: so he does anything with them, I think there's gonna

676
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: be Hey, look what Aaron Glenn's doing. Demiko's got to

677
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: get that defense to a certain level and have it

678
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: played a certain level consistently over seventeen games. That's gonna

679
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: be a tough battle. I'm gonna give it to Demico

680
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: just because I think his defense will get to that

681
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: level and I think they will play to please him

682
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: and stay at that level, and that's going to give

683
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: him just a little bit a little bit of an

684
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: edge over Aaron Glenn, Okay, a little bit. Final Who's Better?

685
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Speaker 1: This is the Former Texans part of this segment, Who's Better?

686
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: Former Texans Cults, Former Texans Chiefs. Now, remember both teams

687
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: were formerly the Dallas Texans. The Dallas Texans became the

688
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Baltimore Colts, all right, and they kind of broke up

689
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: reformed sort of, and they became the Baltimore Colts. And

690
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: a much more clear cut follow through was the Dallas

691
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: Texans of the AFL becoming the Kansas City Chiefs. So

692
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: both teams are formerly known as the Texans. Who's better, Johnny?

693
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: As far as franchise history, I guess I should just

694
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: go Super Bowl era here, just to make it fair

695
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. Super Bowl era the Chiefs or the Colts.

696
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, recency bias is tough because the Chiefs have

697
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: been so very good. I mean, if you went back,

698
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, Super Bowl ere, I mean, heck,

699
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: can you go back to the NFL the Chiefs were.

700
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: The Chiefs were one of, if not the, I don't

701
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: say most dominant AFL franchises, but they were one of

702
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: the two. Was it was the Chiefs and the Raiders.

703
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jets won championship, but the Jets were

704
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: consistently there. The Chiefs and the Raiders were there every

705
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: single year out in the AFL. So I'm gonna go

706
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs just because I don't want to give the Colts anything.

707
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: How about that? I like that now the Colts took

708
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. They won the Super Bowl in

709
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, right, which which everyone forgets about. And obviously

710
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: they won OH six with Manning, they went back in

711
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: OH nine. All of that. The Chiefs won with Hank

712
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Stram the year after the Jets won, and that's correct, right,

713
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: And then you have obviously what they did a couple

714
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: of years ago. They've had a lot of dry years though.

715
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: Remember after that Montana win against the Oilers in ninety three,

716
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: you went totally dry until they beat the Texans in

717
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty fifteen in the wild card rounded NRG Stadium.

718
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: That was their first playoff win in third teen years.

719
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: So they had a lot of dry spots, but the

720
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: Colts had their share of dry spots as well. I

721
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: just thought i'd bring it up because I love bringing

722
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: up that they were both former Texans teams, but Dallas Texans.

723
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: So does that wull? That'd be a good trivia question

724
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: to ask how many teams in NFL history have been

725
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: named the Texans. That's not bad, it's three. That's the total. Now,

726
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: there was a Houston Texans in the WUFL and the seventies.

727
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: They didn't last long, not even a full season. And

728
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: there was also a San Antonio Texans in the CFL,

729
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: I want to say, when they expanded south of their

730
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: border with the United States, and that didn't work at

731
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: too well either. I like the San Antonio Gunslingers. Is

732
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: a better nickname for them anyway back in absolute one

733
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: of the one of my favorite logos of all time,

734
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: san Antonio Gunslingers. That's a good one, yea. And who

735
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: was their quarterback? Can you name? Can you name it?

736
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: Can you name a san Antonio Gunslinger quarter new Heisel?

737
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: Very good, That's what I was thinking of. Yes, there

738
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: might be others. Don't don't test me on usfls don't

739
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: come out all right coming up. Certain receiver requests a

740
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: trade and there will be none of these, none of

741
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: this happening in twenty twenty one. What is that? We'll

742
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: tell you next on Texans Radio. So great to have

743
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: you with us on Texans Radio. Mark Vanderman and John

744
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: Harris with you, all right, Johnny Nikkil, Harry has requested

745
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: a trade. As we go around the league, here for

746
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: a moment, Texans playing the Patriots this year, and you

747
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: know you can just breathe a sigh of relief, maybe

748
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: that the Texans won't have to deal with nikkil Harry

749
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: on the field. Wait a minute, am I overrating this

750
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: a little bit? Perhaps? Look, it hasn't worked out so

751
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: far for him. Maybe he can blossom somewhere else. That's

752
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: what his agent is hoping. Clearly that is not working

753
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: out well for the Patriots or nikkil Harry, that little

754
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: marriage that they formed on draft night. Yeah, not Yeah,

755
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: there's so many things about this that just kind of

756
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: of me the wrong way. And you know, the agent,

757
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: after two years, he comes out with a statement, he's

758
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 1: only even targeted eighty six times in two years. Well,

759
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: guess what, go catch the football and do the things

760
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: you're supposed to, and that target number might have been doubled.

761
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: It might have been one hundred and twenty. I just

762
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: this to me, Aaron Rodgers requested trading on people requesting

763
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: a trader. Obviously we know about what happened here about

764
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: requesting a trade. Okay, nikkil Harry, I requested trade. Get

765
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: out of here with that nonsense. And I thought it

766
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: was interesting because he puts in there he was virtually

767
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: unstoppable in college. And so PF PF's draft expert Mike

768
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: Renner put out a tweet and he quoted that line

769
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: of virtually unstoppable in college, and he showed Nikkil Harry

770
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: getting just destroyed on a slant route by a small

771
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: court from UCLA who picked it off and went to

772
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: the house. And I was like, that's the exact same

773
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: play that Bradley Roby picked off in the Patriots game.

774
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: And I was about to tweet it to Mike and

775
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: somebody already beat me to the punch, and boy, yeah,

776
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: it was like, look this, nothing's changed, and there's so

777
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: much about that that just shows you that he has

778
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: that far to go as a receiver. But to think,

779
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: oh I should be catching I sometimes sometimes understanding what

780
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: you know. Self awareness is a is a big thing.

781
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: And to kill Harry right now and his agent, he

782
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: have a little bit of self awareness. This is one

783
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: of those that if he wanted to trade request, you

784
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: probably should have kept it in the house with Bill,

785
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: just discussing with Bill. That's fine, But to bloat out there,

786
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry that, I mean, there wasn't anybody going, yeah,

787
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: go for it. There are a lot of people going,

788
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy just requested to trade. Really this guy.

789
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: The Patriots already signed Johanna Smith, Hunter, Henry Kenrick Bourne,

790
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Nelson Aguilar and all of them. We'll catch more passes

791
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: than to kill Harry this year, and this guy's asking

792
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: for a trade. Like I get okay, Look, we want

793
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: to clean slate. I get keep that in house, man,

794
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: keep that with Bill. Figure it out with Bill. You're

795
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: not going to pressure Bill Belichick and to make it

796
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: a move by putting your trade request in some statement

797
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: and putting it out there to the NFL media. Stupid. Sorry,

798
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Thank you, General, Yeah,

799
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: thank you General. I don't think Belichick's dog is even

800
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: phased by this. Belichick's dog probably read the report and said, now,

801
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: we're not we're not dealing with this. We're not going

802
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: to ruffle our feathers. Wait, I have a dog ruffling

803
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: its feathers. No good, anyway, terrible Belichick's dog. By the

804
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: way of reference to the Draft nine twenty twenty, when

805
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: the dog was there. Now, Belichick's dog is a character

806
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: in this league, all right, No, opt outs due to

807
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen for twenty twenty one. You surprised, No, not really.

808
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean they if you're vaccinated, sort of back to

809
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen levels, if you're not vaccinated. I mean, I

810
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: am surprised because there are there are players that are

811
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: not vaccinated. But I was a little surprised that there

812
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: wasn't a guy or maybe two knowing they were high risk.

813
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: That's just said. I man, I'm not totally comfortable yet.

814
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe I'm surprised that literally wasn't at least

815
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: one or two, But I wasn't surprised there weren't. There

816
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: weren't flood game and maybe a mild surprise there were

817
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: app zero. But I'm glad that talking point is done

818
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: in this city, if you know what I mean, Johnny.

819
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: That is all the program we have for tonight. We

820
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. It's always awesome, Mark, Thank you. Texans

821
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: app has everything you want to know about your use

822
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, and it doesn't predict the future, okay, but

823
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: it's got all the other stuff and we got all

824
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: the fifty threes with Gary Kubiak, Bryant Cushing, look at

825
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: the past before we get into the future here because

826
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: camp begins in about three weeks, so let's get it ready.

827
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for listening. I have a great

828
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: night and go Texans.