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Speaker 1: We have an absolute legend, a Hall of famer joining

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Speaker 1: us today on Stu Gatz and Company. It's Celtic's legend,

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Speaker 1: Robert Parish. I know he played for the Bulls as well,

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Speaker 1: played for a couple of teams, but Celtics legend Robert Parish,

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Speaker 1: and he's got a new memoir called The Chief, the

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Speaker 1: Story of the Boston Celtics most enigmatic icon.

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Speaker 2: Chief.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. What about the

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Speaker 1: book or what about your story? Is your favorite part

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Speaker 1: that you want to share with people?

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Speaker 3: Me as a person, That's why I did the memoir.

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Speaker 3: I have evolved, elected the transformation that has occurred with myself.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm a softer, easier to get along with.

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Speaker 3: I just think I'm all around a better person now

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Speaker 3: so and I'm not change the growth that I have

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Speaker 3: experienced over the last few years. The book would have

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Speaker 3: never happen, and so because I would not have allowed

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Speaker 3: myself to open up personal, personally and intimately like the

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Speaker 3: book of Reveals or by my upbringing about how basketball

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Speaker 3: a lot got started and my family and my social life.

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Speaker 3: I would have never shared that. But now that I not,

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Speaker 3: it's distant and anti people, anti social whatever you want

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Speaker 3: to call it. I felt like it was a good

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Speaker 3: time to do the book.

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Speaker 2: Chief.

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Speaker 1: What made you if you were to look back and

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Speaker 1: think of all the things, I mean, it's probably a

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Speaker 1: long list, But what would you say made you that

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Speaker 1: really defensive, kind of protective person that didn't allow you

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Speaker 1: to share these types of things with people.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know whether it's genetics or learned behavior.

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Speaker 3: My pops similar traits, So I don't I know, I

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Speaker 3: know where I got it. I don't know how I

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Speaker 3: got it. I know come from my pops. I do

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Speaker 3: know that, right, But you know, he wasn't really a

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Speaker 3: people person either. So like I said, I don't know

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Speaker 3: whether there's a learned behavior through genetics, but I certainly

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Speaker 3: have those characteristics that my pops had, you know, in

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Speaker 3: terms of keeping people at a distance, you know, And

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Speaker 3: I'd be the first to say, I know I give

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Speaker 3: off that impression at being distant and dismissive and those

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Speaker 3: tendensees you know, learn or inherited from my pops.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, Robert, what's changed in the last couple of years

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Speaker 4: that allowed you to open yourself up and write a

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Speaker 4: book like this, Well, my woman.

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Speaker 3: Been suffering in media for they'll.

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Speaker 2: Do that to you, Robert, They'll do that to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I need to do better, especially with

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Speaker 3: my interaction with people. You know, I need to get

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Speaker 3: people a chance. You know, I need to uh not

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Speaker 3: be so anti people. Uh, to be honest, I prefer

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Speaker 3: my own company. And I'm still likely I'm just better

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Speaker 3: at opening up and being uh more sociable with people.

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Speaker 3: And she just kept it and kept it and kept it,

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Speaker 3: and she she had a valid pump. I can't give

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Speaker 3: it no pushback on that. I really can't give it

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Speaker 3: no pushback on that one, you know about the people,

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Speaker 3: because I know it's me. I know, Uh it's not

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Speaker 3: so much that, uh, I'm not trusting people. I just

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Speaker 3: prefer my own company. That's all nothing against the human race,

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Speaker 3: because I'm a part of the human race.

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Speaker 2: I just prefer my own company. They love yourself, Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 4: I'm with I mean, I don't want to I don't

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Speaker 2: I just want to.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's me, and and she she has the point.

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Speaker 3: You know, I need to open up. You know, I

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Speaker 3: need to not be as anti people as I was.

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Speaker 3: And I actually I feel better about it. To be honest,

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Speaker 3: I think I'm a better person.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not as hard.

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Speaker 3: And and distant and that whatever attitude like I used

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Speaker 3: made a better point, and not to mention because I'm

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Speaker 3: a better person. I think I'm better at I'm better

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Speaker 3: relationship material because of that, because I'm softer and not

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Speaker 3: its you know, things and things not going right whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't have that whatever attitude anymore. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'm willing to sit down and work at it, talk

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Speaker 2: So you went from a to a teddy bear. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we get carried away. Not too far?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you go too far?

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Speaker 2: I am better say that.

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Speaker 4: But it seems like you found someone who loved you

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Speaker 4: for exactly who you were and just said, hey, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to take this person, mold them, and make them

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Speaker 4: an even better person than the one I fell in

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Speaker 2: Is that fair? I think that? Fanta say she my

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Speaker 2: woman name is Esther.

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Speaker 3: She has been very patient, very tolerant, very indulgent of

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Speaker 3: mind peculiarities, we'll say that. And so I felt like,

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Speaker 3: you know, she deserves for me to do better. To

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Speaker 3: be better, to act better. You know she deserves that.

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Speaker 3: So because she how she had been with me, that's

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Speaker 3: the least I could do to try to be a

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Speaker 3: better person for her and for us. I think now

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Speaker 3: our relationship is better, now solid, it's tight now.

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Speaker 1: Robert, It's funny that you mentioned, you know, your antisocial

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Speaker 1: nature or whatever, keeping people at a distance, when you

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Speaker 1: made so many people happy over sixteen hundred more than

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Speaker 1: sixteen hundred NBA games. Lebron just tied you for most games.

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Speaker 1: What when you think of having played in all those

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Speaker 1: games and that record that lasted as long as it

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Speaker 1: has until Lebron, Now what makes you proudest of that.

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Speaker 3: Availability? Debility? It shows longevity endurance. So if anyone, for

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Speaker 3: me personally, anyone was to challenge that record or break

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Speaker 3: that record, I think it should be Lebron James because

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Speaker 3: his attention to fitness and diet mirrors my philosophy fitness

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Speaker 3: and diet, and so I like how he takes care

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Speaker 3: of himself first and foremost. We all know that he's acceptional,

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Speaker 3: the talent and a gifted and all of that, But

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Speaker 3: I think one of the main reasons why he's been

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Speaker 3: able to sustain this level of plate and this longevity.

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Speaker 3: That's how he takes care of himself. Because I'm a

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Speaker 3: firm believer and I can speak from experience. The better

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Speaker 3: your fitness is, the least likely you're gonna have a

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Speaker 3: catascropic injury. Now you're gonna get you're gonna get nicked up,

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Speaker 3: banged up, but I'm talking about a significant injury. Less

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Speaker 3: likely to happen the better your fitness is, And I

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Speaker 3: think I'm a testament of that. Lebron is a testament

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Speaker 3: of that. You know, you got to take care of yourself.

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Speaker 3: That's pair amount, first and foremost. Forget about the basketball.

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Speaker 3: Your fitness, your dietary, what you put in your body

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Speaker 1: Chief you, it must drive you crazy when you watch

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Speaker 1: or hear about all this load management and all these

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Speaker 2: Get it right.

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Speaker 4: By the way, you're also talking to a guy in Israel,

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Speaker 4: good Eras, who has been to the gym already today.

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Speaker 4: I will go two more times before the day is

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Speaker 4: of Like.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: To answer your question, Uh, I don't understand it myself

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Speaker 3: because think think about this today's NBA. They don't do

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Speaker 3: two days in training camp anymore. They do one to days.

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Speaker 3: They don't practice. I tell my woman all the time.

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Speaker 3: Practice in the NBA today like going to the SPA.

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Speaker 2: You yeah, steam in the ice tub.

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Speaker 3: J cousday, you get SAgs that swim. You know they

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Speaker 3: got a swimming pool now you can go swim. The

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Speaker 3: only thing they probably don't provide. You can't get a

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Speaker 3: manicure in the pedicule.

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Speaker 1: What were the Boston Celtics practices like walk us through

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Speaker 1: those back.

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Speaker 3: Of brutal Oh, I'm a practice is well? Playoff games atmosphere?

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The coaches were the referees and they did not call

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Speaker 3: fouls unless there was a hard fire. You got knocked

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Speaker 3: down and almost trampled, then they called the foul. Basically,

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Speaker 3: they just sucked on the whistle and let us play.

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Speaker 3: What that did though, it toughened us up mentally and

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Speaker 3: physically got us ready for the NBA Ryan and I

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Speaker 3: think he wouldn't. This is just my personal opinion. I

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Speaker 3: think if if the NBA today practiced more, they kept

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Speaker 3: themselves in better shape, I think they'd be less injuries

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Speaker 1: Well, you're not the first person that said that. I

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Speaker 1: just heard Stan Van Gundy talk about that, because how

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Speaker 1: do you prepare your body for all this and then

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Speaker 1: not practice it. You've got to practice a little bit

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Speaker 1: and really sort of harden your body for the kims, Right, Chief.

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Speaker 3: I got another question for you. What's up being that

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Speaker 3: they don't practice like they used to? Training camp is

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Speaker 3: not as vegamous? How can they be tied? How can

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Speaker 3: you how can you even fix your lips to say

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Speaker 3: I need a game with two off? I'm gont tied.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to run down. How is that even possible?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I would vote for you as

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Speaker 2: The n b A. I was. I was wondering how

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Speaker 1: Enough people like you saying this.

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Speaker 2: I would be today.

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Speaker 3: I would be fired, no question. And my players came

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Speaker 3: to me and asked me for a game off or

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Speaker 3: games off, I would say, you sit beside me until

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Speaker 3: I get tired of looking at you.

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Speaker 2: You can't sit the stalls down, now come on, Oh

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Speaker 2: the ship will tell me you got to go.

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Speaker 1: Robert, Robert, I think the answer might be you, But

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Speaker 1: who's your funniest teammate over the years, because right now

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Speaker 1: you're cracking me up.

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Speaker 4: But your funniest teammate, Oh, it's got to be Sadric Maxwell.

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Speaker 4: That would be my guest down down.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: He he kept you know, he didn't looked for something

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Speaker 3: to talk about. You know, your your your shoe might

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Speaker 3: not be tired of, hair cut is not quite right,

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Speaker 3: or you need a half cut, or your outfit is

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Speaker 3: not as fashionable, you know if he thinks it should be.

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Speaker 2: He just looked for things, you know, talking about.

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Speaker 3: He kept it going, always talking trash it and he

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Speaker 3: got the perfect job for Civic right now talking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he loved I love that. I love you.

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Speaker 4: You're not trying to talk to anyone and Cedric is

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Speaker 4: just wearing you out because he won't stop. He loves

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Speaker 4: it getting ready for the game every day. And you're like, man,

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Speaker 4: if I wear this, Cedric is going to roast me.

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Speaker 4: I can't wear this.

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Speaker 2: That I never forget.

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Speaker 3: One time I came I came to the to really

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Speaker 3: you know, I always consider myself to be a good dresser,

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Speaker 3: fashion mode dresser. And one day I came to the game.

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Speaker 3: I had a blue sock in a black sock on,

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Speaker 3: and they were booth dark and the black. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's similar. Oh, man, dude, road back, I got from

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Speaker 2: Oh, he talked.

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Speaker 4: Because he's looking for things to talk about, right, Oh,

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Speaker 4: you know that.

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Speaker 2: He looked for something to be out of place.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, Robert speaking of things looking out of place. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it feels like Victor weiben Yama is out of place

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Speaker 1: on this earth. It doesn't seem like an actual human being.

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Speaker 1: When you see the evolution of the center position. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I like the way the big man big man played

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Speaker 3: that's why I don't have a problem with the today's

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Speaker 2: The only thing I would say about women.

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Speaker 3: I wish he would play with it back to the

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Speaker 2: Check.

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Speaker 3: He may be the only one that could challenge win

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Speaker 3: But anyone else there's a serious mismatch if he ever

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Speaker 3: had the mindset to mix it up more inside. I

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Speaker 3: know he's a little thin and a little lighting in

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Speaker 4: Uh, just two quick questions, we'll get you out of here. Robert.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate the time when Cedric Maxwell gave you the

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Speaker 4: nickname a chief.

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Speaker 2: What was your initial reaction to it. I really didn't

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Speaker 3: So when I first came to the Celtic, I was

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Speaker 3: just trying to fit in, to get along, and I

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Speaker 2: You know. I tried not to come in in here.

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Speaker 3: You know, would coming to the Celtics like room with

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Speaker 3: to find your place, and that's what I was trying

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Speaker 3: be honest, when I was hyping the movie One flew

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Speaker 3: the googool Nest like, man, you guys got to check

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Speaker 3: this movie out, man right, all time best movies, so

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Speaker 3: clearly said when he watched the movie, and he was.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, you just like the Chief, never say nothing.

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Speaker 2: You had them all food. That's hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Now, Larry was quiet. Larry was quiet off the court,

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Speaker 4: but on the court he never shut up.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Larry was well, I'll tell you what. He was quiet

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Speaker 2: around people he didn't.

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Speaker 3: Know, right, Okay, but people that he knew, Larry talked

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Speaker 3: trash like sid all the time. I just don't know

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Speaker 3: that about Larry. Larry was a legendary trash talker. And

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Speaker 3: what I respect about Harry trash talking. It didn't matter

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Speaker 3: where he was ten for ten of five out of twenty,

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Speaker 3: he talked trash until the last second, t non stop

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Speaker 2: He was consistent that way right.

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Speaker 1: Robert Harris's memoirs are called The Chief, the Story of

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Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics most enigmatic icon. Robert, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. I see that you played till

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Speaker 1: forty three Lebron's only forty one. You think he's going

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Speaker 1: to play till forty three just to sort of match

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Speaker 1: you or break your record there? Because I feel like

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Speaker 1: he's just got you in his sights.

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Speaker 3: At the level he is playing it. He can because

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Speaker 3: he's still playing it at an all star level. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and so if he chooses to, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: whether now he might be might have to take a

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Speaker 3: whether his ego would allow him to take a pay

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Speaker 3: But he certainly can play for another couple of years

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Speaker 3: if you choose to, because he's playing at the old

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Speaker 3: star level right now, you.

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Speaker 1: Saw the Lebron rule make a salary cap exception for

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Speaker 1: anybody over forty He doesn't count against the cap a.

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Speaker 2: Right, I like you?

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Speaker 4: Yes, final question here, we play a game around here.

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Speaker 4: It's called shot for your life. Okay, so you need

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Speaker 4: to choose one of these two guys to take a shot.

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Speaker 4: Your life depends on it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's just a big game. You want this guy

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Speaker 2: taking your shot?

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Speaker 1: Okay, come in me like that, litten, know who's gonna

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Speaker 1: do the killing, but your life will end.

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Speaker 4: And it's a three point shot as the as the

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Speaker 4: clock is winding down here, okay, and you have two choices.

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Speaker 4: To your left is Larry Bird. To your right is

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Speaker 4: Michael Jordan. Who's taking that shot for you?

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Speaker 2: Robert? Is it a three pointer? Yes? Three point three pointer? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Larry Bird, Larry Birder, Steph Kurt, Larry Birder, Steph pointer.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I gotta go to Stephan.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Wow there, Think about this, man, Think about this.

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Speaker 3: Because of Stephen Curry outside shooting, he changed and revolutionized

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Speaker 2: He changed the way the NBA today is played.

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Speaker 3: The game is played deafinite Curry and as you as

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Speaker 3: you gotta know whoever wins the championship, that's the blue

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Speaker 2: And that's why you say all the three point shooting.

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Speaker 3: Now because the Warriors, I mean you had the Warriors wanted,

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Speaker 3: print print on how to win the championship. So that's

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Speaker 3: why you got everybody a lot of them should not

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Speaker 3: be shooting threes. Yes, everybody's shooting three pointers now.

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Speaker 1: But shot for your life. You can't make a wrong

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Speaker 1: choice there between Larry and Steph.

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Speaker 2: Well though I.

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Speaker 3: Both either way, you go, you gotta he ticks in

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Speaker 3: the chance that it's gonna go.

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Speaker 4: In, you're gonna right. Uh yeah, well I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Two point shot. You're going Jordan over Bird there.

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Speaker 2: Two point two pointer. I'm with Michael back on this.

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Speaker 2: Man wants to live. He knows to make.

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Speaker 4: Michael from two and Curry from three. That's right, Robert,

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Speaker 4: good luck with the book. We appreciate the time. This

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Speaker 4: has been a thrill. Dad after all of us. Man,

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Speaker 4: we're huch fans, and thank you.

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Speaker 3: Guys for for your time, and also I want to

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Speaker 3: wish you to continued success going forward with your show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chief really means a lot. I like this

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Speaker 2: new Chief. I gotta be honest with you. Yes, such

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Speaker 2: a nice guy. I love the old Chief though that's

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Speaker 2: a problem. Thank you very much. You are welcome, sir,

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right,