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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, where

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Speaker 1: we never designed bad concepts or bad plays. Here in

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Speaker 1: the Chris Westling Podcast studio. Very excited to be joined

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Speaker 1: as always on the preview show by Patrick Claibon and

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Speaker 1: fresh from London, not feeling any jet lag. Doesn't even

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Speaker 1: need makeup. It's Steve Wish he's back.

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Speaker 2: I just did my own.

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Speaker 1: Really, you put a little powder on yourself.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little dusted up. That's that's nice. That's a

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Speaker 2: vet move.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that. It's good to

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Speaker 1: have you back, though, Steve. But you were saying you felt,

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Speaker 1: you felt good, you felt fresh. You were there for

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Speaker 1: a couple weeks over there. Any any takeaways?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, Line is one of the greatest

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Speaker 3: cities in the world to talk about your Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I got a good takeaway on them, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I will say Tod Mayo was spot on with his

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Speaker 3: assessment of the way his team is playing.

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Speaker 2: But otherwise the weather was good. I mean everything was great, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you had your your lovely wife there and

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Speaker 1: it was it was a whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Good seeing you, Patrick. You should have seen Rosie on

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Speaker 3: the motorcycle.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the picture? No, I didn't. Rosie got

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Speaker 2: Rosie was riding shotgun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, motorcycle from the stadium to the Sky Sports studio.

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Speaker 1: Weave in and out, you had their traffic.

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Speaker 2: You had like the dudes show up.

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Speaker 1: And he was like they had like an uber or

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Speaker 1: a driver. Yeah for yeah, And they they brought me

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Speaker 1: a little jacket. Someone said, I looked like I was

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Speaker 1: like his like kept you know, boyfriend or something in

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Speaker 1: the back, just standing just sitting there with my jacket

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Speaker 1: and holding out of the handles.

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Speaker 2: But uh, it's not a bad thing to be. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, a to be quick in a hurry. He

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Speaker 2: got there.

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Speaker 1: So this this week's a little different were we we

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Speaker 1: got our regular crew back, but we've also got like

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Speaker 1: we're back in like week two, Week three. There's no buys,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubleheader, there's no international game. We're just we're

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Speaker 1: like raw dog in fourteen games on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: We're going for it. And yes, of course smallest the

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Speaker 1: biggest spread this week.

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Speaker 2: And we start with a game that we have not

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Speaker 2: seen in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles against Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Bengals, who are a two point favorite.

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Speaker 2: The over under forty eight.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a game on CBS with Ian Eagle

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Speaker 4: and Charles Davis on the call.

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Speaker 2: These two met and the College Football Playoffs to be final.

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Speaker 4: Back in twenty nineteen, world that All World LSU team

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Speaker 4: absolutely blew out Oklahoma. We haven't seen Joe against Jalen

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Speaker 4: greg and now we get a chance to see it.

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Speaker 4: Where the Cincinnati Bengals are almost five hundred on the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's such a big game in their season.

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Speaker 1: They're at home. When you looked at this stretch of games,

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Speaker 1: it was a bunch of winnable games for the Bengals

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Speaker 1: and then this one was kind of the coin flip

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Speaker 1: type of game. But if you can get it, you

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Speaker 1: have the Raiders next week and you could suddenly be

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Speaker 1: five and four before a monster game against Baltimore the

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Speaker 1: rematch there, which it just sets up their whole season.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that this game was moved. This

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Speaker 1: was actually the four to twenty five game, and we're

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Speaker 1: talking Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow, and it got moved

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Speaker 1: a little disrespectful to these two guys, But it's it's

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Speaker 1: because these teams have been a little inconsistent. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: Bengals were won in four a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Their offense is in a little bit of a slump

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Speaker 1: now too, which I like. It's the type of time

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Speaker 1: of the season, Steve, where you start wondering, like what

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Speaker 1: streaks matter, because if you just looked at the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks, if the last two weeks were actually weeks

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Speaker 1: one and two, where you start to form these narratives,

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Speaker 1: here's what we would be saying about these two teams.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with the Bengals offense this year, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just like averaging under two three hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: not throwing the ball well at scoring fourteen seventeen points

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Speaker 1: last week. And how about that Eagles defense, Like they're

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Speaker 1: getting tons of sacks, they're shutting teams down. So like

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Speaker 1: narratives can change in a hurry. The Eagles defense playing

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Speaker 1: well lately, the Bengals offense not. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I quite believe that, or do you believe what you

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Speaker 2: I believe I saw the first month of the season.

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Speaker 3: However, I think the Bengals are starting to play the

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Speaker 3: type of football they need to play to get back

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Speaker 3: into the playoff mix. When you look at the AFC, like, okay,

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Speaker 3: who's gonna be a wild card? Because you've got a

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Speaker 3: handful of teams that look good. But I think the

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Speaker 3: way the Bengals are playing, like see, they're not that

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Speaker 3: great on offense, but they're not killing themselves, right, They're

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Speaker 3: playing better on defense. But I don't I don't love

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Speaker 3: this matchup because and Patrick and I were talking about

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Speaker 3: this earlier. Their run defenses isn't great in the front

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Speaker 3: seven they've been and Saquan is killing it right. Saquan

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Speaker 3: has run the ball well. The Eagles identity now seems

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Speaker 3: to be run first. You know, they're they're they're kind

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Speaker 3: of figuring things out a little bit. But this, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think the two points is good here. To me,

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Speaker 3: I'm really like, hmmm, I would probably favor the Bengals

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Speaker 3: just because they're at home and that that quarterback, I mean.

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Speaker 2: B is just right now. I think he's well, he's

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Speaker 2: been good for almost the whole year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he's been the problem. I did

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Speaker 1: want to ask Patrick, though, do you think Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 1: will try as hard this week, though now that he's

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Speaker 4: Know, it's gonna be tough to summon that motivation in

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Speaker 4: a guy who's traditionally a good football player when he's

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Speaker 4: not playing against his former team. We are joking to

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Speaker 4: anybody just joining us for the first time ever. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's fun to discuss narratives and revenge games. So I

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Speaker 4: think Saquon tries hard against a lot of people, which

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Speaker 4: is a problem here for the Cincinnati Bengals, because I

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Speaker 4: did want to see and Steve and I were talking

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Speaker 4: about this earlier before we got started on the show.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals the worst success rate run defense in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and so I was like, well, they are playing a

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Speaker 4: little bit better now defensively. So I took out the

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Speaker 4: first four weeks. If I take out the first four weeks,

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Speaker 4: they're number two in terms of the worst. The Saints

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Speaker 4: will be the worst, and they the second worst team

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Speaker 4: And it's tough for me to come into this game

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Speaker 4: seeing what Saquon did against the Giants, knowing the connection

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Speaker 4: with AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts. It's a very difficult thing,

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Speaker 1: That's a really interesting point because that doesn't go with

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Speaker 1: my eye test, which is like, Okay, they get rankings back,

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Speaker 1: they get bj Hill back, and they just okay, you

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Speaker 1: have your players back, you look like a better defense.

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Speaker 1: The eye test, to me is more worried about the

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Speaker 1: Eagles offense in this matchup. That hurts. It's just been

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Speaker 1: a weird season, and yeah, aj Brown comes back and

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Speaker 1: is the offense, everything just goes to him and that's enough.

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Speaker 1: He's just winning one on one matchups and maybe you

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Speaker 1: can keep doing that, but that's a tough way to live. Hurts,

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Speaker 1: holding the ball like an extra beat doesn't look totally comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Like every week or two, it seems like the offense

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Speaker 1: Nolan Smith is playing well for them, So it's a

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Speaker 1: fun matchup. I'm assigning myself this game early Sunday morning. Sorry, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: you don't get this game.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, oh man, Well, okay, I like this game too,

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Speaker 4: but I'm glad it will get the full analytical experience

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Speaker 4: of the beautiful mind of one Greg Rosenthal. We had

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Speaker 4: a beautiful game of football going on on Thursday night football.

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Speaker 2: People sleep on Thursday night football a while back.

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Speaker 4: And then the Falcons and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers come out,

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Speaker 4: and it's a calculator game. Points points, points, and here

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Speaker 4: we are a few weeks later, Atlanta a two and

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Speaker 4: a half point favorite on the road against Tampa Bay

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Speaker 4: because Steve a couple devastating into was one of them,

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Speaker 4: absolutely catastrophic to Chris Godwin, who's going to be done

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Speaker 4: for the remainder of the season. Over under forty six

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Speaker 4: out of the mean and g Reg on the call.

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Speaker 4: Can Tampa survive without its two top tark.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is interesting to me because Atlanta the

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Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, I don't know what they are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're not a great defensive team, so yes,

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Speaker 3: Tampa's going to be without their top two wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: But Atlanta's not great stop in the run. They're not

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Speaker 3: extremely physical team. Up front.

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Speaker 2: This could be a big Kate Otten game. Is my guy?

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Speaker 1: He is I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: He's He's done good things for me, you know, And

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Speaker 3: I want to call on Kate He's he's he makes

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was. It's a tough that what it is.

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Speaker 2: He's not give me rides on motorcycles or anything.

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Speaker 1: I heard. He's like, I'm not. I can't pretend that

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Speaker 1: I've been breaking down his blocking, but he's getting some

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Speaker 3: So, but just Atlanta just played so bad. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they just slept walk against Seattle. I think they'll come out.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be a tough game. Two point five.

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Speaker 3: He is the right number. I want to go Atlanta

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Speaker 3: in this one. But there, man, they're just kind of

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Speaker 3: all over the place right now. They're really hard hard

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen's done a fantastic Yeah, there were guys open

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Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield to find. Baker Mayfield is unpredictable, mostly good,

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Speaker 1: but then can just be terrible, make some terrible decisions,

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Speaker 1: and you just wonder what it's going to be like

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Speaker 1: without Godwin and Evans you got Jalen McMillan, who hasn't

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Speaker 1: Trey Palmer. This is really going to test their offense.

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Speaker 1: That said, this is kind of the perfect matchup to

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Speaker 1: start to try to do that. The Atlanta Falcons have

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Speaker 1: six sacks this season. Aiden Hutchinson had that in like

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Speaker 1: highest rate and yet they have the worst pressure percentage

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Speaker 1: in the entire league. The Matthew Judon trade I hit

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Speaker 1: on this on our last show, has not worked out.

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Speaker 1: He kind of looks done.

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Speaker 2: He can set the edge, he.

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Speaker 1: Kind of looks done as a pass rusher though, and

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Speaker 1: so like, I actually think that the scheme and the

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Speaker 1: structure and the offensive line, especially for the Bucks, has

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Speaker 1: really been playing well that they're still going to be

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Speaker 1: able to score a bunch of points. This is a

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Speaker 1: really big game actually in determining who's going to win

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Speaker 1: this division. I hate that this game is so soon

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Speaker 4: It's just it's difficult to imagine Jalen McMillan, late stage

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was, I was tweeting at you while

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Speaker 4: But those are things that come with pressure, and the

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Speaker 2: That's so stupid and backwards.

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Speaker 4: And I know anybody says that isn't going to listen

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Speaker 1: I can't improve on that. I mean, that is absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Some point the time. It's gonna happen all the time,

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Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna be like, well, I didn't agree with everything

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Speaker 1: It's a great it's a great lesson as as an adult.

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Speaker 1: Kate Otten, let's go. The Kate Otten game last week

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Speaker 2: I noticed she kept his name out of It's your mother.

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Speaker 1: No, no, keep him there. I mean, Chris Godwin is

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Speaker 4: So that's what that's what Kate Oughten does. He goes

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Speaker 4: to work for Steve's fantasy football team, a game we

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Speaker 4: rib of Jade and Daniels, dan Quinn said the practice

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Speaker 1: He is definitely the uh the Steve BISHEMI why am

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Speaker 1: I blanking on? You know, the saved by the ballist.

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Speaker 4: No, I think I think d Q is is legit.

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Speaker 4: But the question is, Steve, do we feel confident if

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Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't feel confident if they got

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Speaker 1: Put up forty. Okay, it was against the Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, look, the Bears defense is legit. We

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Speaker 2: I spoke to one of their coaches before the game

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Speaker 3: He's like, I think we think we know what the

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Speaker 1: I am so disappointed. If Jaden Daniels doesn't playing this game,

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Speaker 1: he might You mentioned Patrick everything dan Quinn said. Now,

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Speaker 1: just don't know. This was the game that replaced Bengals

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Speaker 1: that's just strength on strength. You want to see that matchup.

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Speaker 1: But to your point about Brian Robinson, it's better to

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Speaker 1: They're just so good in the secondary, so good that

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Speaker 4: And you have to think are coming off the buy,

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Speaker 4: they'll be a little healthier as well. I know they

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Speaker 4: understandably this Commander's defense. Statistically things have looked a little

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Speaker 4: how much do we really believe in improvements over there

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Speaker 3: I will I will say this though the Commander's up front,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if Chicago's run the ball

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's you know, he's definitely not the

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Speaker 2: Gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was a little more aggressive than than

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Speaker 3: There's tape Steve's football first.

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Speaker 1: What we see enough of them? I mean, I love like,

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Speaker 2: Seen enough film. He's been replaced by He's been replaced

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Speaker 1: Romo gets this game though.

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Speaker 2: I like this.

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Speaker 1: We need new quarterbacks to kind of make Tony Romo

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it gives us an idea because of course

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of conversation. These guys are going to

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Speaker 2: Just like that.

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Speaker 4: That's what we need and we kind of, you know,

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Speaker 2: Folks, you know what, Tom, it is. It's time for

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Speaker 2: the Game of the Week preserved by Draft Games.

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Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills are a three point favorite at the

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Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks. Seattle, who went to Atlanta and put up

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, I might have to take this game too.

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Speaker 1: This is my super Bowl pick Buffalo to win the

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Speaker 1: in the deal. The Titans do. So the Titans can

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Speaker 1: look at it like, we got a couple months of

435
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Speaker 1: Ernest Jones and we just upgraded our pick from a

436
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Speaker 1: fifth to a fourth, and we have Jerome Baker on

437
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: our team. Maybe he fits better.

438
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Speaker 2: Didn't they get a sixth with Jones?

439
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they did a like all the nerds like me,

440
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 1: like you just look at like the business that they

441
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Speaker 1: did and you're like, well, that was a pretty good flip,

442
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 1: Like they flipped Ernest Jones and they got a lot

443
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Speaker 1: out of it. That said, Ernest Jones is the better

444
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Speaker 1: player in this deal. And Seattle has major issues at

445
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: the linebacker position that they believe Ernest Jones would be

446
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 1: a good fit in helping them. And so I'm all

447
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Speaker 1: for them being aggressive and trying to help a defense

448
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 1: that I think has potential to be really good because

449
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: the front we saw it against Atlanta, they just got dudes.

450
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy is a dude. He had some big time plays.

451
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Speaker 1: Derek Hall is my kind of outside edge guy like

452
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Speaker 1: a Jadavian Clowney, or when Marcus Davenport's good. Just there's

453
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Speaker 1: just so strong.

454
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Speaker 2: The four games Marcus played.

455
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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, yeah, they're just so strong I like having

456
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Speaker 1: one of those guys going today, one of those guys

457
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: boy mafia. Yet maybe you are feeling the jet lack

458
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: because this is like this is like tired, salty weis.

459
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: But okay, they needed some help at linebacker. They got some.

460
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Speaker 1: I like the move.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look this to me, I look at this. This

462
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: is kind of an identity crossroads for both teams. You

463
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 3: really have winning records, they haven't really haven't beaten any

464
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 3: strong teams. Like the strong teams both have played have

465
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Speaker 3: put it on them. You know Seattle, of course Atlanta

466
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Speaker 3: if you want to consider them.

467
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Speaker 2: A strong teams.

468
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Speaker 1: That was their best game.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the best game they played. So I

470
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Speaker 3: think the winner of this kind of lets us know. Okay,

471
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,959
Speaker 3: this is another team to keep an eye on. We've

472
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 3: been high on both of these teams, but again they're

473
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Speaker 3: still working through things a little late in the season

474
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Speaker 3: for a lot of these teams, and I think this

475
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 3: is kind of a league wide.

476
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Speaker 2: Ordeal.

477
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Speaker 3: I like Seattle in this game. I like the way

478
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Speaker 3: they played. I think Gino, the way he played and

479
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: the way this offense game up to get one on

480
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 3: one matchups against Atlanta, Like we're seeing right there.

481
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Speaker 2: I think they can do that against the Bills.

482
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Speaker 3: So as long as they can protect a little bit,

483
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Speaker 3: I think Seattle has a real good shot to knock

484
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Speaker 3: off Buffalo here.

485
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the pressures are going to be the issue in

486
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Speaker 4: this game. We've seen how Greg Russo as well as

487
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 4: the rest of the pass rushers for Buffalo, Ed Oliver

488
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 4: being a key aspect of that as well. You gotta

489
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Speaker 4: get pressure on Gino otherwise, I think the secondary has

490
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 4: so many spots where Gino can exploit it.

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Speaker 2: We saw them really just relying on.

492
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Speaker 4: The pass rush to deal with the Jets offensively because

493
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson was getting open yes on every single play.

494
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: And I've wondered about the athleticism back there in the

495
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 4: secondary for the Bills all the time.

496
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Speaker 2: But is Boye Mafe right? Is that enough?

497
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Speaker 4: Can they get the pressure on Josh Allen because we've

498
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 4: been waiting right for the good Josh Allen games and

499
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Speaker 4: we've got a couple of them back to back. The

500
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Speaker 4: first half was nuts against the Tennessee Titans, where you're

501
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Speaker 4: looking up it's like, oh, Mason Rudolph is out playing

502
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Speaker 4: Josh Allen.

503
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Speaker 2: Well, then the second half comes and all I gets

504
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: wiped away.

505
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Speaker 4: They score thirty four on answered points, and I just

506
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna need to see it from both of these teams,

507
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 4: which makes it a difficult game to pick because it's

508
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: like what team, what team are we getting here?

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I lean Bills because I do think that pass

510
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: rush will get after Gino and DK Metcalf right now

511
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: looks unlikely to play. And I think you said it, Patrick,

512
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: that's where the Seahawks would have to win, would be

513
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: in the secondary and DCAF he just changes the math

514
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: for you, or they're just not nearly as scary without

515
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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. But Ken Walker is a really improved player.

516
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Speaker 1: It's fun. I believe in both these teams. I think

517
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are gonna evolve as over the course of

518
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: the season, and Mike McDonald will have that defense playing

519
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: better towards the end of the year. And I already

520
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: know what their offense is. I think it's good. And

521
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: the Bills. The Bills are balanced. Don't sleep on the Bills.

522
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: You're saying I'm not seeing more. I'm not seeing right there.

523
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean I should say the Ravens and the Chiefs

524
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: are at one level and the Bills would be right now,

525
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 1: right behind them.

526
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: They're right there.

527
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: But like Patrick said, you can't both these teams are like, Okay,

528
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 3: let's take the mask off, right. Okay, they've beaten they've

529
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: beaten the teams that they should be. Okay, they've played

530
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 3: a cliche season so far, and Buffalo is a strong

531
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: football team, well coach football team, and Amari Cooper is

532
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: really going to help them, right, But let go to

533
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: Seattle and win that ball game. And I think, you know,

534
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: it's not like I don't believe, but I think this

535
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 3: is something where Okay, now, let's start knocking off some

536
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: quality football teams.

537
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at Dalton Kincaid maybe in this game

538
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: against some of those linebackers and maybe the safeties at safety.

539
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: I've liked what I've seen out of Dalton, Ca and Cad.

540
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: I like what I see out of the rest of

541
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547
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Speaker 1: Wis it's not spy spicy. You know who else was

548
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: cranky this week talking to the media to a tongue

549
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: of Ioloa. I've never seen that side of Tua.

550
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, is back, and he's back at the podium, and

551
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: he's he's lashing out, not really to it, explaining his

552
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: decision process with regards to the Guardian helmet and we'll

553
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 4: see how things go. He's you know, he's done the

554
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 4: judo everything else to dry.

555
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: Not happy with some of the media and some of

556
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Speaker 1: the media attention, which I get.

557
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look and people have been saying for

558
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: weeks he shouldn't play, he shouldn't come back, he shouldn't

559
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: do this.

560
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: You know, He's probably like, it's it's my because you've.

561
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: Heard himself, it's my choice, personal choice, personal choice, over

562
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: and over. So when people were asking about his health,

563
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: and players don't like talking about their health, especially if

564
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 3: they fall into the injury prone category. So that might

565
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: be why Tua was a little bit, you know, bucking

566
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: up against some of those guys and right from to

567
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: his point of view, one hundred percent of the players

568
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: in the NFL have brains and skulls on the outside

569
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 3: of those brains, and this is an issue that everybody

570
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: has to deal with, and perhaps he will prefer it

571
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: be a conversation not about to a tongue of bailoa,

572
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: but maybe about the game as a whole.

573
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Speaker 4: As we get to the Arizona Cardinals against the Miami Dolphins,

574
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Speaker 4: who are three and a half point favorites, mainly because

575
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 4: the gentleman that we were just discustling is finally bad

576
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: for them. Arizona gets a win on Monday Night football

577
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: against one of the best defenses in the NFL in

578
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: Jim Harball's Los Angeles Chargers, Greg Jason Benetti and Mark

579
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 4: Schlareth on the call a few weeks ago when he

580
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 4: said this game state, now we've got stake on the call.

581
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Speaker 2: How do you feel that's awesome? Well done.

582
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: I'm into it because I do find the Cardinals a

583
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: compelling weekly watch. Not sure what I'm getting out of them,

584
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: but Kyler Murray is always fun. And then Tyreek Hill,

585
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: I got to admit to a being so salty. Some

586
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: reports that he looked very sharp at practice. Tyreek Hill

587
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: is saying on Wednesday, where back Baby, strike up the

588
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: f and band start me this week to his fantasy owners,

589
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: you gotta put that on Fantasy Live. Like he's just

590
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: saying to is all we need and he kind of

591
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: makes me believe it. I don't know if it's fair

592
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: to the backup quarteracks. How reliant this system is, that

593
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: maybe it's not good that McDaniel's built it in such

594
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: a way no one can come in and run the

595
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: offense that they run, because that was not the Dolphins

596
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: offense that we saw over the last month. They're not

597
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: even doing the motions. They're not doing anything other than

598
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: throwing the ball to John new Smith and running the

599
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: ball pretty well. But that running game makes me think, man,

600
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: this Cardinal's defense is so overmatched talent wise that I'm

601
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: kind of buying what they're selling that maybe they just

602
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: put up a thirty five point effort and we all

603
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: feel better about the Dolphins.

604
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

605
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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, I don't think it's necessarily the backup

606
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 3: quarterback are you know? This is where the GM is like, Okay,

607
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 3: we're gonna come in and put it Snowpuntley in. You know,

608
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 3: you have to be better prepared knowing that you've got

609
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: a quarterback who's had the issues that he's had. I

610
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 3: think two coming back does change things. I mean it's

611
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: such an energy boost because people had life without Tua

612
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: and it didn't work out well. I mean they haven't

613
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: scored more than twenty points since what the week one victory,

614
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: you know against Jacksonville.

615
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: Even that one they had like three a half.

616
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that wasn't good. So I like Miami

617
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: in this game. I think is just going to be

618
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: a motivational boost all around. But I will say this

619
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 3: about Arizona. James Connor is like every year when he

620
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: is healthy, it's like, we do not give this guy

621
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Speaker 3: enough love.

622
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: He is a damaging player. He's a monster near the

623
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Speaker 2: end zone.

624
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Speaker 3: You know, this is one whereas exciting as a big

625
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: play might be for Miami, they just got to keep

626
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: the ball away a little bit from Arizona good here

627
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: and having kind of this churn ball game with Connor.

628
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Speaker 4: Well, that's the place where I've been having a success

629
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 4: picking the Arizona Cardinals here in the past few weeks.

630
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: Is the way that this defense has issues is giving

631
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: up the big play. And here come Tyreek Hill and

632
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: Jalen waddle Back with their quarterback with the opportunity to

633
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: make some big plays against this Arizona Cardinals defense, where

634
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: if they're in a game where you're trying to go

635
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: three or four yards in a cloud of dust, like

636
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: a Greg Roman team might be inclined to do, then

637
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: they can have a little more success. And the Dolphins

638
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: without Tua have the fewest completions of twenty or more

639
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: are yards this season. I understand that they didn't start

640
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: that well, but a lot of teams have slow starts.

641
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: We celebrate Joe Burrow and the Bengals starts every single season.

642
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: I think Tua can get it together against this team.

643
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Tyreek also said about his connection with to it

644
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: was so beautiful. I cheese man on my face just

645
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: felt so good. Y'all. Don't know what it does to

646
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: me if I'm tired. Yeah, snep Huntley listening to this,

647
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: that's not making you feel good, you know, to a personally. Yeah,

648
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: what do you think this challenge and everything's been like

649
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: for him?

650
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: Well, well, look it's you know, it's like he said

651
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: when we talked about his people, I've spoken to near him.

652
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Speaker 2: You know.

653
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: He said, even that evening, you didn't see any signs,

654
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Speaker 3: like any symptoms or whatever of the concussion.

655
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Speaker 2: That he went through. It is a personal choice.

656
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: Because people who play football right now, they get hurt,

657
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: they bounce back right away. It's twenty or thirty or

658
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: forty years down the line a lot of times when

659
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: the things really don't show up. And I can tell

660
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: you this, and I've spoken to Earl Campbell, we know

661
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: how broken down the Hall of Fame running back is.

662
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Speaker 3: He said he wouldn't trade a thing for the glory

663
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Speaker 3: of playing football that brought him. I guarantee you about

664
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Speaker 3: ninety nine point five percent of NFL players, no matter

665
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Speaker 3: what they're going through, will tell you the same thing.

666
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Speaker 1: The one thing you worry about that I thought watching

667
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Speaker 1: his press conference was just that they just got to

668
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Speaker 1: be careful because there's been other instances where like the

669
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Speaker 1: Buffalo game a couple of years ago, he didn't really

670
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Speaker 1: report his you know, they need to protect him from

671
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Speaker 1: himself because he had a comment. The thing that worried

672
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Speaker 1: the one comment in the press conference that I thought

673
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Speaker 1: was objectable was just, well we should let he essentially

674
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: said what players have said forever. It's like players should

675
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: get to decide when they play, and he would like

676
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Speaker 1: he was treating it like it was another injury like I,

677
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, I have the best feeling of when I

678
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: should play or not, and so they just got to

679
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: make sure to have an eagle eye there and save him,

680
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: save him from himself. And I don't think he'll get

681
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Speaker 1: hurt in this game. What go ahead to?

682
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's this thing that Mike McCarthy told me

683
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: years ago when he was the head coach of the Packers.

684
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: It's the can you sleep at night rule if you're

685
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Speaker 3: a coach or an organization and you have a player

686
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Speaker 3: who gets hurt. And this is when Jermichael Finley had

687
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Speaker 3: a significant neck injury, and he said, we can sleep

688
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: at night when he's not on the field. If we

689
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Speaker 3: put him back on the field, I don't know how

690
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: well we would sleep. And that's the deciding factor. So

691
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: if too were to get hurt again, that's what the

692
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Speaker 3: Dolphins is. An organization, like you said, may have to

693
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Speaker 3: step in and say okay.

694
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Speaker 1: Jermichael Finley, in my mind, is famous for being the

695
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Speaker 1: first player to force me to stand on an Apple

696
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: box when I interviewed him, because that man was just

697
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: so tall and they were like, sorry, bro, you really

698
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: got to stand on this box there shout out to

699
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Speaker 1: NBC Sports Network back in the day. I just wanted

700
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Speaker 1: to mention Dennis Gardick, the pass rusher for the Cardinals,

701
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: is out for the season, has a torn acl We

702
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: did not know that at all on Monday night. Here

703
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: are four different players that are out for the season

704
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: from the Cardinals, which would not believe to have a

705
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: really talented front to begin with. Dennis Gardeck bj Ojilari,

706
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Speaker 1: who is going to be a breakout type of player,

707
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: Justin Jones ballall Nichols, and their first round pick Darius

708
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: Robinson hasn't played. So they remind me a little bit

709
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: of the Patriots, where not the most talented team in

710
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Speaker 1: the world to begin with, and they've really been devastated

711
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: with injuries. So that's just unfortunate for them.

712
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, tough situation, especially on the road at Bamory this week,

713
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: trying to get that figured out.

714
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: Another team going on the road after getting a.

715
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Speaker 4: Home win in the Winter Warning Game, the Green Bay

716
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: Packers a four point favorite at the Jacksonville Jaguars, who

717
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 4: got another win in London against the New England Patriots.

718
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: Forty nine and a half.

719
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Speaker 4: The over under Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma on the

720
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Speaker 4: call Steve as the Boomer busts green Bay Packers offense

721
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Speaker 4: with Jordan Love either scoring a touchdown or the tournament ballover.

722
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: What are they going to do in Jacksonville this, Yeah,

723
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: I'm surprised his number is only four. I mean, I think,

724
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: I guess the folks who set this line really liked

725
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: what they saw to Brian Thomas in the Jaguars offense,

726
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: which they should. I mean, I think the offensive line

727
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: played well against the Patriots. Tank Bigsby is their best

728
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: running back, Travis Atn as a starter because you could

729
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: do certain things in the past game. But their defense

730
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: man you could scheme them up. You could scheme them up,

731
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: and Matt Lafleur is one of the best players. Oh yeah,

732
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: I just think Now here's one thing I'll here for

733
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: jackson But the Foyer lucun comes back. The linebacker, they

734
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: missed him right, there's a lot of communication issues on

735
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: that side of the ball.

736
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Speaker 2: If he's back, he can fix that. That will help.

737
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Speaker 3: But I just think, again, you can scheme up some

738
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: things against this defense where Green Bay can put a

739
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: lot of points on the board.

740
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Speaker 1: We've got an injury update here, Travis Etn and Foy

741
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: Lukhan both returned to practice in a limited fashion.

742
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Speaker 2: One.

743
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's a positive. They're They're going to

744
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: be missing Cam Robinson likely, but they have a pretty

745
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: good backup at left tackle in Walker Little. This is

746
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Speaker 1: the first game so far that I've thought maybe survivor Yeah,

747
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: here we're back.

748
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

749
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: Because Okay, you saw the Jaguars week after week and

750
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Speaker 1: Steve you were kind of a supporting actor Starr here

751
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: in the Jaguars London trip. Because that first halftime interview

752
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: with Doug Peterson.

753
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Well he was a little, a little unhappy. He was

754
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: a little he was a much saltier than I've been.

755
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: I heard someone say, I really want to credit who

756
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: this was that don't worry about Yeah, don't worry about

757
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: the Jaguars quitting on Doug. I think Doug might be

758
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: quitty on the Jaguars. He looked so unhappy.

759
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: Was a little little upset, but much.

760
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Happier after a great second quarter. That said defensively, yeah

761
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: you said boom or bust. I hear you, Patrick, But

762
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: man that in aggregate, it's booming. Business is booming for

763
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: this Packers offense, good offensive line. Jacobs is great, the

764
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: receivers are all popping. Jordan Love is the most confident

765
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: quarterback on planet Earth. He believes he can make any

766
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: throw and he does. So I feel pretty good against

767
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: maybe the worst defense in the league right now in Dboa.

768
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait to get to your page.

769
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Okay, just by the numbers, DVOA, you've been teasing this

770
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: fourteenth in offense in the league, Jaguars thirty second in defense.

771
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: What'r?

772
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: And Jordan Love has a one hundred and fourteen point

773
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: three passer rating when not blitz this season. So now

774
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 4: he's going to Jacksonville, where the Jags have blitz at

775
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: the lowest rate in the league. They in twenty twenty four,

776
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: so things could go a different way. Also spotted at

777
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 4: practice today and commented on by the head coach, Robert

778
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: Salah was helping the offense of the Green Bay Packers today,

779
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: giving them a defensive perspective, watching for Matt Lafleuring company.

780
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 4: So Bob Saul was up there in Green Bay taking

781
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: things in where things are getting better. Things are getting

782
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: so good. Oh boy, you can have other coaches come in,

783
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: you know. Jeff Hafley got the game ball.

784
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: Im bout to say, I'm glad he's a confident Well

785
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: he looks like he's gouts.

786
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: Well, but they're doing it. I was thinking about that too,

787
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: But they are, Lafleur says, it's on the offensive side

788
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: of the ball.

789
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: Quote for now, it's the same thing that Kyle Shanahan

790
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: is doing with the former head coach with the Chargers.

791
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: Why am I Brandon Stale?

792
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: I think he's doing the same thing he's doing.

793
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: He's getting defensive perspective, a defensive genius, Brandon Staley.

794
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: Yes.

795
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: By the way, Belichick's done that too, where offense defensive

796
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: guys switched spots sometimes very successful.

797
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: Wes McDaniels is a former defensive.

798
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Right not why not? Why not bring Bobby Salad back

799
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: in the building? Our friend Jordan rodrig who's loving your

800
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: contributions today by pointing out Frankie Luvu and James Connor

801
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: like two of her favorite players. She famously uncovered that

802
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: they were called the Boys back in the day on

803
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: her podcast that you are also on the play callers

804
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Robert Salah and Matt Laflair. So the boys reunited.

805
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: Best man in his wedding by the way, just really okay,

806
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: So I didn't know they were that tight that's been

807
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 4: hanging out?

808
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: Wait, did we decide on the survivor? I'm talking Packers.

809
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Let's go.

810
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: There are bigger spreads out there, but we're trying to

811
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: be little spice.

812
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 5: I do.

813
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: I've made several mistakes picking the Jacksonville Jaguars in twenty

814
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 4: twenty four.

815
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: If you guys, all we gotta do is get to win.

816
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: We don't even got to cover that that spread, but

817
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: I think they will all right.

818
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: A couple of teams that need wins.

819
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 4: On Sunday Night Football, the Dallas Cowboys at the San

820
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers or were four and a half

821
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: point favorites. They just lost Brandon Ayuk for the season,

822
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel just getting out of the hospital with a

823
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: respiratory illness where he had fluid in his lungs.

824
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: Over unders forty six and a half.

825
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: Of course, Mike Turrico, Chris Collinsworth on the call, Greg

826
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: the Cowboys coming off of buye, the owner, coach going at.

827
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: It, media quotes, everything's great in Arlington.

828
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start there. Because for the twenty years i've

829
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: covered the NFL in some capacity, I've never heard a

830
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: team owner say that his coach is designing bad plays

831
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: and bad concepts publicly. Let's listen. Mike McCarthy was asked

832
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: about that on Wednesday.

833
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I talked to Jerry all the time.

834
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 5: You know, we've we've had time to go through the

835
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 5: self scout, so I can't really I didn't see the

836
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 5: comments specifically, so, but I don't think.

837
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: We have bad honshepts in bad place. But I'll go

838
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: back and check.

839
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 5: But we want to be I mean, that's clearly and

840
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 5: that ultimately is my responsibility, and I'm fully aware of that.

841
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 5: But you know, we were very diligent.

842
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: Shout out to Mike McCarthy beautiful if you could watch

843
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: on YouTube his face added to it, he's I gotta

844
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: admit he is the right man for this job. It

845
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: is tricky to be the Dallas Cowboys head coach and

846
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: being that position, and the way he laughed that off.

847
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's maybe feeling a little differently inside, but

848
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: I think actually that is the right way to handle it.

849
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Otherwise you'd go crazy.

850
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean sometimes sometimes you have to laugh to

851
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: keep from crying. And I think that's where he was

852
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: right there.

853
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I mean when Jerry said that.

854
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: When Jerry said that, look he's designing bad plays and that,

855
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, this guy's been designing the same offense

856
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 3: that's been winning you twelve games the past couple of years.

857
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: Maybe that running back you couldn't afford Derek Henry, who

858
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: you also said, wouldn't have had this type of success

859
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: in Dallas. That's a self damnation. You can't say them,

860
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: I agree with you. The funny thing, agree correctly, right,

861
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: he wouldn't because this is a mess. This is a mess,

862
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: So it would be much better to be I just

863
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: want to put out it would be much better with yeah,

864
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: because I mean the defense. Defenses have to actually, you know,

865
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: concern themselves with a running game. Which is why I mean, look, Dallas,

866
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: I think this is a Jordan Mason game all day.

867
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: I think San Francisco's gonna be run football, you know,

868
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: because their situation is George Kittle. Of course you're gonna

869
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: give him some attention. So Kyle Shanahan will find some

870
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: other ways. Maybe Ricky Piersoll gets going in the receiving game.

871
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: But there's nothing about Dallas right now that just I mean,

872
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: I know, Ceedee Lamb and dak But right now, I mean,

873
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: this this stuff.

874
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 2: Going on right here, it's not cute. It really isn't.

875
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: You know. We know how Dallas has fared against the

876
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: forty nine ers.

877
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: They've been tough games, So maybe the four and a

878
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: half is a bigger number than maybe I would welcome

879
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: with this, But I just I just this stuff right

880
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: here just is not good at this point in the

881
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 3: season for this type of game. I like San Francisco, Yeah,

882
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 3: with a maybe on Micah and a maybe on Tank Lawrence.

883
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: Yes, in this game.

884
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: And if you're a forty nine ter fan and you

885
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: were concerned with the lack of red zone success against

886
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 4: Kansas City, you come into this game where Dallas is

887
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 4: giving up seventy four percent of the time if you

888
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 4: make it to the red zone against the Dallas Cowboys,

889
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: you're getting in the zing touch like you're giving up touchdowns.

890
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 4: And they've given up the second most rushing touchdowns in

891
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: the league right now. And that's with the early bye week.

892
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 4: So like you would have think, you would have thought

893
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: some teams would have come up and gotten closer to Dallas.

894
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: That didn't happen this past week.

895
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: They're just so poor against the run I guess the

896
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: guy in Jordan Mason, who's got the second most yards

897
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: and the second most carries in the league.

898
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: It just feels like it feels like an easy one

899
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: to decide. Greg.

900
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of picking the winner, I'm not gonna

901
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: pick against the forty nine ers. But this isn't the

902
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Neither of these teams. They are having

903
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: a good time, and it's partly because of expectations. The

904
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: forty nine er has been so close to winning it all.

905
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: There used to being one of the best teams. So

906
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: when they have these sort of injuries and they're not

907
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: as productive, it's it's a drag, and it's it's the

908
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: same for the Cowboys. Think of how different these teams

909
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: feel than they did going into the playoffs, for instance,

910
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: a year ago. Because party's out there. We don't know

911
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: if Devo's gonna be playing. I know he's got a

912
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: tough man he's got and Jwon Jennings, we don't know

913
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: if he's playing. Brandon Ayuk he was never like the

914
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: full Ayuk this year, but this isn't the same offense.

915
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks McCaffrey's going to solve everything. He will help

916
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: quite a bit. I don't want to discount that, right,

917
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: but I they're not gonna be last year's forty nine

918
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: ers offense. Just inserting Christian McCaffrey. Brock Purty you're so

919
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: used to if you go to those EPA charts EPA

920
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: plus CPOE and like brock Purty number one by far,

921
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: brock Purty number one by far, even when he's not

922
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: playing well, it's like now he's down there in the

923
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: ten range, and it's just it's just another good offense.

924
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: It's not the forty nine ers offense. So I want

925
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: to believe in a world where Mike Zimmer has a

926
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: future still coaching in the NFL. They had a bye

927
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: week to maybe clean some things up, so maybe they'll

928
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: be a little more sound. I actually tend to think

929
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: this is going to be a very close game.

930
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: It'll be a closer come down to.

931
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: The wire, and I lean forty nine ers, but not

932
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: by a ton.

933
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: And I tell you the Niners defense, I mean, have

934
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: you seen have you seen a game where you're like, man,

935
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: they're back, Like no, they're just they're not up front.

936
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: They're not killing it like they normally do.

937
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: They have a couple outstanding players, but we've learned that

938
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: that's not enough.

939
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 4: Maybe you know, Far and the coordinator, because they can

940
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: keep the best quarterback we've seen in twenty years from

941
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: winning the Super Bowl.

942
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: Anyway, I don't know, that's a tough one. Leave that game.

943
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean they kept him to what like ten points

944
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: in the first nine possessions or something like that. They

945
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: played well enough.

946
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 2: They had a third and seven to win the game.

947
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: It was Kyle's offense anyway.

948
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: Right, The Indianapolis Colts at the Houston Texans, who are

949
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: a five point favorite. The over under forty six. Andrew

950
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 4: Catalan Tiki Barber on the call as the Houston Texans

951
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: had a loss in the closing moments against Green Bay,

952
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 4: Indianapolis just in an absolute rock fight against Miami, gonna

953
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: go win.

954
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: A Last week, Steve and c J.

955
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: Stroud talking Spicy on Little Spicy CJ CG on Wednesday says, Okay,

956
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna get our offensive line issues together. Media, keep

957
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: that same energy that you've been giving us talking about

958
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 3: how bad they suck.

959
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: So I think there's a little attitude. Little Bobby Slowik's

960
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: been good. Guys fired up.

961
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, the one thing you know, you play

962
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 3: Indiana Indianapolis. You know Gus Bradley, he wants his guys

963
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: in front to win without a ton of blitzing. They

964
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: play a lot of his own. I just think Houston's

965
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: gonna is gonna get rolling right here. I think this

966
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: is the their five point favorite. I like him in

967
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: this game. I want TJ to b spicy. I want

968
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon. I think Joe Mixon can get some ground

969
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: game here too. I think this is a really good opportunity.

970
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: You know, we'll see what their defense, Houston defense can do,

971
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: but it's gonna be tough sledding.

972
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: For the for the Colts offensively, Yeah, the Texans defense

973
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: matchup with the Colts offense is the mismatch in this game.

974
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: And because the Texans offense has been a little disappointing,

975
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: maybe the best they looked all year was actually that

976
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: Week one game against the Colts, So maybe they'll be

977
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: happy to see their their division rival in this game.

978
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: But that Texans defense just better and better, very sound.

979
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: They're they're bringing up guys like Neville Hewitt that yeah,

980
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: and he'll just like step in and make a difference.

981
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: They signed Devin White actually on Wednesday, so that's interesting,

982
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: and I don't think he'll play for them right away.

983
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: But if someone can get consistent playout of Devin White,

984
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: I think it would be Demico Ryan. So that mismatch

985
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: I think for the Colts, it's just hard to believe

986
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: in them. We don't know if Jonathan Taylor is going

987
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: to play this week. He makes such a difference for them.

988
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: But I was thinking about this. I was looking at

989
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's numbers, and he's got some Joe Namath ass numbers,

990
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: like some nineteen sixties AFL numbers, Joe cap number. Yeah,

991
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: Joe Namath went to the Hall of Fame with these numbers.

992
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: That's it would get you there back in the day.

993
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is more interceptions than

994
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: touchdowns under fifty percent completion, but like sixteen seventeen yards

995
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: per completion, right eight yards per time. That's how they

996
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: used to play back in the day in the AFL.

997
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: So we're just we're bringing it back to a simpler

998
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: time that people all enjoyed.

999
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: And time will remind us as we look back to

1000
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: Week one and we think, like, well, Anthony Richardson played

1001
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 4: all right in Week one. Again, it's to Houston Texans.

1002
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: He was nine of nineteen. Albeit those nine completions went

1003
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: for two hundred and twelve yard. That's what I'm talking touchdowns,

1004
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: including the throw of the year Faden off his back

1005
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: foot to to Pierce for that touchdown there. I just

1006
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: it's hard to stop believing in what he can be

1007
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 4: because you see it in spots where he's making the

1008
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: right decisions with the ball, but the ball will just

1009
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 4: get away with them'll sale it high, it will go

1010
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: to the dirt, maybe it's feet, but I just prioritize

1011
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 4: Seve the ability to make that decision, which is the

1012
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 4: hard part for a lot of quarterbacks.

1013
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: He's getting that. It's everything else he has to put together.

1014
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: By the way, is pierced like the AFC's Rashid Shahid,

1015
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: because every time you see him, it is like a

1016
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: fifty yard completion downfield all to a more.

1017
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I cited this stat on Wednesday show

1018
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: of average place on the field after three seconds. You

1019
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: know how far the receivers are down the field. And

1020
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce leads the NFL. He is the furthest down

1021
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: the field. It isn't a surprise like Reggie Wayne has

1022
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: been talking him up for years. It's like, I'm telling you,

1023
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: this guy is a burner, Berner burner that's gonna have success.

1024
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: But he said it's been more of a mental thing

1025
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: that he hasn't had the confidence at the pro level

1026
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: and now he does. This is a tough secondary though,

1027
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: to get it done. Yes, and if you miss a

1028
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 1: throw like they'll catch it. It seems like this Texans defense.

1029
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's take another break and we're gonna wrap

1030
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: up this show after the break with some of the

1031
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: bigger points spreads of the week back on NFL Daily.

1032
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: And yes, they made a rule that Monday Night Football

1033
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: conflect now. Oh, but it's only late in the season

1034
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling Patrick, if they saw the

1035
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: way this Giants team was playing and it was December,

1036
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: we would not be Giants Steelers on Monday Night for Bay.

1037
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, But because we are locked in

1038
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: at the moment, we will be subjected to Daniel Jones

1039
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 4: and the New York Giants on the road at the

1040
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers, who are a six and.

1041
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: A half point favorite.

1042
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: After Russell Wilson was cooking the Jets, especially in the

1043
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 4: second half, the over under thirty six and a half.

1044
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 2: That's a number four.

1045
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: You pats a lot of confidence and points to Joe

1046
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 4: Buck and Troy Aikman on the call. But it is

1047
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: Dimes on the road, which has meant something this year. Yeah, no, good,

1048
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: this is one of these games. I don't think it's

1049
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 4: gonna be an esthetic dandy. You know this is not

1050
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: an HGTV game right here.

1051
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: Look, you know I'm gonna get to Russell Wilson because

1052
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: I know he just looked fantastic.

1053
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: He was pushing the ball down the field.

1054
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: If Pittsburgh gets that out of him again, I think

1055
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 3: all of us gonna be like, okay, all right, Pittsburgh

1056
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: is in this to win this.

1057
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: We know that Pittsburgh is Pittsburgh.

1058
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: But if Russell plays like this, with that type of

1059
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: connection that you're seeing right this, especially why he just

1060
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: drove the ball, I mean over and over. Some of

1061
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 3: them were pop flies, as we saw, but his receivers

1062
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: made the play. We'll see.

1063
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: I don't I don't, I don't know.

1064
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: I don't know what we're gonna get out of him,

1065
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: which is why I like that thirty six and a

1066
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: half over you.

1067
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: Know more Everyone's course round him and it was his

1068
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: receivers were play making some great for him, and he's

1069
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: given them a chance to which is which is important.

1070
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: He's not using the middle of the field at all

1071
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: that he never has and he's he's made it work.

1072
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: He probably will go to Canton one day with it.

1073
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: What do you think you see?

1074
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's there, But I mean these

1075
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: past couple of years, you're a vote.

1076
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: You're a voter, not a vote. I'm not a selected

1077
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: But you're on the show on NFL network.

1078
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: I am. Yeah. I don't think.

1079
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: How do I get on that show without you know,

1080
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: anyone coming off of that show. I want on that show.

1081
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: I think i'd be good.

1082
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: Well, Greg, you know, the numbers have been dwindling here,

1083
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 3: so uh, I don't get I think there's a good opportunity.

1084
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: That's that really into that stuff. Sorry, I've on air.

1085
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: There we go.

1086
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Because I think Russell Wilson's an interesting one. Won't be

1087
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: your first ballot, That's kind of That's kind of how

1088
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: I viewed. I felt different than Roethlisberger, for instance, just

1089
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 1: thinking of another Steeler.

1090
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 4: I felt like when the entire media apparatus turned on

1091
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson for the past couple of years.

1092
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 2: I thought we were out. But you know, if things

1093
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: go right, specifically in Pittsburgh.

1094
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: No, I actually don't. Well, sure he could help his

1095
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: case if he has a nice run, but I my

1096
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: expectations are relatively low. I think what he did in

1097
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: Seattle has enough to have a pretty good case.

1098
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: I would I wouldn't.

1099
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: I mean, people like cataloging mundane interactions and discussions about

1100
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: high knees on the airplane, and it was just all

1101
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: it was all bad.

1102
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: It's like, were you a top five quarterback for an

1103
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: extended period of time, then you're probably a Hall of Famer.

1104
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: It depends how long it is, depends what else you

1105
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: did in this matchup. We'll see. The Giants defense can

1106
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: do some things. Yes, the Steelers offensive line has been

1107
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: better despite being a real mass unit. Are they coming together?

1108
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: Because the Giants are playing well up front. Azizo Jalari's

1109
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: playing well. You have Brian Burns. We'll see if he's

1110
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: healthy enough. Dexter Lawrence is a Defensive Player of the Year.

1111
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to Drew Phillips, which is one of the

1112
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: players that Joe Shane drafted that that has worked out

1113
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: for him. He's playing pretty well, so I defensively, I

1114
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: think the Giants could give the Steelers a little problem

1115
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: and to your point, just muck it up and make

1116
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: it kind of an ugly field goal type of game.

1117
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones targeting guys out wide at a career high

1118
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 4: rate right now, I'm looking for a positive dime stet of.

1119
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: Pouring him targeting versus completions. Patrick, you left that part up. Yeah,

1120
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 3: it's it's not.

1121
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: He's got, you know, three hundred and thirteen yards and

1122
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 4: three touchdowns and the EPA per targets point sixty four.

1123
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: When he's targeting a guy outline. Mylage. Neighbors helps that

1124
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: a fun to watchmen the league neighbors on.

1125
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: Not as fun last week. They were really double teaming.

1126
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: And we'll see if it's These are two of the

1127
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: teams that have cornerbacks that travel the most with receivers.

1128
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: So Joey Porter Junior maybe with neighbors. And then Deontay Banks,

1129
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: who will see if he gets benched a little bit.

1130
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: You gotta look on your face, Steve Wish No.

1131
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: No, I mean I liked the neighbors one, okay, I.

1132
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: Thought you were you. Deontay Banks footage where he just

1133
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: starts jogging off the field in the middle of a

1134
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: play when he had the angle to maybe get Jalen

1135
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: Hurts out last week. I've never seen this in my

1136
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: entire life. He just started jogging that way and his

1137
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: position coach sees him jogging that way and starts chewing

1138
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: him out and gesticulating and going crazy while the play

1139
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: is happening, and Hurts is just like running by him,

1140
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, you maybe gotta gotta bench

1141
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: that dude at that moment, like if he's I don't know.

1142
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: It was a kind of a tough moment, and but

1143
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: he will be traveling most likely with George Pickens.

1144
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: It's a it's a tough situation sometimes when are looking

1145
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: over in the offense is doing next to nothing, and

1146
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 4: maybe maybe that that inspires little quit.

1147
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really miss Andrew Thomas, which is not a

1148
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: huge surprise, but they're the falloff to them. And then

1149
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: now you have to play the Steelers. That's that's bad news.

1150
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: The Steelers got to win a last week against the

1151
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 4: New York Jets, who are a seven point being on

1152
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 4: fraud Watch by this particular program from week one. They

1153
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: are taking on Greg's beloved New England Patriots and Drake May,

1154
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: who was the only thing Greg likes about the Patriots,

1155
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: the Overners forty one and a halfs Baroddos Adam Archiletta

1156
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: on the call and before Steve it gives us the

1157
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 4: entire rundown of everything that is wrong with New England.

1158
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: How do you feel, Greg, I.

1159
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: It's that seven point spread. I had not seen that.

1160
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: First of all, it's the beloved Boston Celtics. What a

1161
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: ring ceremony, that was, what a performance to open the season,

1162
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: and beloved Drake May. So yes, I worry for him

1163
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: that the coaching staff is not the right one for

1164
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: him on offense specifically, and that we're just wasting time

1165
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: with this staff, because he's the only thing that really

1166
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: matters about this this team right now, said, Okay, matchup

1167
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: against the Jets defense that really hasn't played well except

1168
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: when they played the Patriots. But I just want to

1169
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: hear Steve at this point.

1170
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, first off, I disagree with you on

1171
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: the offensive coaching staff. I thought the week before when

1172
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: the Patriots played Alex van pelt in those in May's

1173
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: first start, I thought he's a very creative and a

1174
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: very kind of crafty game. I mean, now they were

1175
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: behind by twenty points, but I thought his play calls

1176
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: were good. Okay, My thing is this with New England,

1177
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 3: Dard Mayo is a truth teller. They I was on

1178
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: the sideline for their game against the Jaguars, and they

1179
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: were playing soft defensively. You know there they may tank

1180
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 3: Bigsby look like Bo Jackson. Nobody want, nobody wanted any

1181
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: parts of him, Like nobody rose up to the challenge

1182
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 3: that contact is a part of the sport. Guys were

1183
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: really sidestepping into olaying some tackles, and so I agree

1184
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 3: with him and the thing the Page's defense, like they

1185
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: got some guys back. I mean, I love their safeties.

1186
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: We know Christian den Zalees is a good player. You know,

1187
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: he's he's probably gonna travel with Garrett Wilson. Maybe he'll

1188
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: get some on Devata and he doesn't travel exclusively. But

1189
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 3: and the offense, their offensive line just beat up too badly.

1190
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: I mean, they've got injuries across the board. Romandre Stevenson

1191
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: to he have a running back, and Drake may Is.

1192
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a good player. They've got

1193
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: to do some things to build around it. But he

1194
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: is a talented guy who sees the field, who can run.

1195
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 3: So the cupboard is is not completely bare. I mean

1196
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: there are a couple of canned items in there that

1197
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: you keep, it'll save.

1198
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: Was there anything being there though that you left there?

1199
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: Just thinking like this team is a messive specific.

1200
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean defensively. I mean again, I was just

1201
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: kind of like, what, like, who is going to stand

1202
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: up and make a play? Because nobody opted to do that.

1203
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 3: So I think this is a game Mayos called him out. Okay,

1204
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: are they gonna get pissed about it or they gonna

1205
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: re it? Because challenge you guys manhood and Rod Mayo's

1206
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: got Look he's a former player who didn't sit out games.

1207
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: You know he enjoyed the contact. So we'll see if

1208
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: it works.

1209
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: Because if they don't believe in the coaching staff, like

1210
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: you don't believe in the offensive coaching staff, then guys

1211
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 3: aren't going to step up. But I think it because

1212
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: they're playing the Jets, they'll be better. I mean, I

1213
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: don't like the seven in this game. I don't like

1214
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 3: the Jets being favored by seven in this game. I

1215
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a tighter game than this.

1216
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: I think the Jets win, but I don't like the

1217
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: seven here.

1218
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: The players have mostly or not, the players have had

1219
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: drive Mayo's back publicly. They said, well, he said that

1220
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: to us first, which is I actually it's funny, but

1221
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: it's also the way to do it, like, don't call

1222
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: him soft in the media. If you hadn't called him

1223
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: soft to their face, I guess he had already done that.

1224
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, yeah, he go already called the soft.

1225
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: So there was actually a report in Boston on Wednesday

1226
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: that he won't even have his job. It's not credible

1227
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: at all, but it's just crazy that that's already being

1228
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 1: out there. I don't think that would be the case,

1229
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: but I do. I do worry on offense that they're

1230
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: just spinning their wheels, and every different receiver at different

1231
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: points have had little comments where they're just not happy

1232
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: about things, like kJ Osborne sort of laughed when they

1233
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: asked like if do you want to be traded and

1234
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: he's like, well, you know what do you think?

1235
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, so we've got kJ.

1236
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: Martin Cooper, Defonte Adams d hop getting traded and we're

1237
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: talking about.

1238
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: Jayl Jalen polk Is is honk in every week and

1239
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: playing Tory. He said he has the best hands in

1240
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: the league. He's got like twelve drops and it's just

1241
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: a bad.

1242
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe kJ Osborne is looking at all the Jalen

1243
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 4: Naylor's success that he's thinking, no, look at how great

1244
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 4: things were in another situation, I don't.

1245
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: Although what the other teams like, lose their left tackle

1246
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, okay, the big focus this week

1247
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: is going to be fixing their right tackle and covering

1248
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: up for that one spot. I'm like, you got to

1249
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: think about the Patriots, who everyone at this point is

1250
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: a backup plan if he is and the first plan

1251
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: wasn't good to begin with, so they went from one

1252
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: of the worst offensive lines to the third or second

1253
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: stringers at like every position.

1254
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 4: It is.

1255
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: It's a tough way to live.

1256
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 4: It's a game where Aaron Rodgers is saying, you know,

1257
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 4: the way to make the Jets feel better would be

1258
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: to stop listening to the media play with joy. And

1259
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 4: on the other side, people in Boston are saying the

1260
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: drod Bales being mean. Maybe everybody will be nice and

1261
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 4: the results will will pan out on the football field,

1262
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: or people are gonna say whatever you got to go

1263
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: out there and play the game. I mean, what about

1264
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 4: the Patriots win this game?

1265
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: Though, it'll be so happy in New York Patriots knock

1266
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: off the Jets.

1267
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: It's true because Aaron Rodgers, like this week on mcaveee,

1268
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: tried to do the thing where hey, I got to

1269
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: be a better leader. He actually had some accountability where

1270
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: he says, I need to change my style leadership, want

1271
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: to bring the joy to the to the field or whatever.

1272
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: And our old friend Hawk who I used to do

1273
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: game debut with, was like.

1274
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 2: Doing a great job.

1275
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: Was like, bro, if you're coming up, it's too late

1276
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: for that. You can't be changing your leadership week seven,

1277
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: Like that's what you do in the offseason. If you're

1278
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: a leader, like you got to be consistent and have

1279
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: like a certain approach. You can't suddenly like be, oh,

1280
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm happy, go lucky Aaron Rodgers in Week seven.

1281
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, winning makes all that, it makes all

1282
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 4: that happen. But right now the Jets have the same

1283
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 4: record as the Raiders, the same record as the Giants.

1284
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm being counterproductive here by expanding and spending

1285
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 4: more time on the Jets because we're having this conversation

1286
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 4: but like at a certain point the same record as

1287
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: the Jags.

1288
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's that's who they are. That's who they are.

1289
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying, like the seven number is real

1290
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: big to me.

1291
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: I've thought that about other Patriots games, but you have

1292
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: gotten me more excited that if the Patriots somehow won

1293
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: this game, this really is their super Bowl. Just to

1294
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: be tied with the Jets at two and six and

1295
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: put them into tailspin. This is sneakily the biggest game

1296
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: of the Patriots season left because they don't have many

1297
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: winnable games like this and that would actually matter.

1298
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: This is it.

1299
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 4: Let's go to another team with the record as the

1300
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 4: New York Jets. The New Orleans Saints at two and five,

1301
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 4: led by Dennis Allen on the road, coming to SOFI Stadium,

1302
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 4: taking on the Chargers, who lost a heartbreaker on Monday

1303
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 4: night to the Arizona Cardinals. The Chargers a seven point favorite,

1304
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 4: a seven point favorite, they're not necessarily lighting up the scoreboard. Steve,

1305
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 4: how do you feel about the number.

1306
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: Seven for the Chargers? What are they averaging? Are they

1307
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: averaging twenty?

1308
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, we know the Saints have lost

1309
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: five in a row, we know it could be Spencer

1310
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: Ratler again starting a quarterback.

1311
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: But boy, I mean, I do like the Chargers in

1312
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: this game.

1313
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: They don't score a lot of points, but their defense

1314
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 3: is good, right, They're keeping teams, you know, from really

1315
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: lighting things up.

1316
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: The Saints.

1317
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 3: Their their offensive identity with and without Derek Carr has

1318
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: been all over the place.

1319
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: I don't like the seven number, but I do like

1320
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: the Chargers yet.

1321
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you just look at it, and

1322
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: the Saints have lost their last three games doing a

1323
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: little mass here by an average of twenty points sixty

1324
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: points total.

1325
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 6: Okay, so two team until they lost those two the Broncos,

1326
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 6: the Bucks and the Chiefs. You know, yeah, I mean

1327
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 6: they're not probably when you're when you're losing by twenty

1328
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 6: to the Broncos, all all bets are off. We'll see

1329
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 6: who plays in this game for the Saints. They they

1330
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 6: are coming off a long weekend. They signed Alvin Kamara

1331
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 6: to a contract extension. This organization is very predictable.

1332
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 3: It's like next year's coach, he's gonna love this is

1333
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 3: Steve Fires did all.

1334
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: That this This team is so predictable. Now, I don't

1335
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: want to discount that. I love this for Alvin Kamara.

1336
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: Seeing him in any other uniform would be disappointing. He

1337
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: didn't have any guaranteed money on his deal, and they

1338
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: guaranteed essentially two more years, and I think he's still

1339
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: running well. That said, I've just seen it too much

1340
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: with this franchise. I believe one hundred percent they just

1341
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: did this good pr in a bad spot that like

1342
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: they want every everyone's unhappy right now, Let's do something

1343
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna make everyone happy.

1344
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: They wanted to keep away from Dallas.

1345
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe since the Cowboys are go after running backs

1346
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 3: to improve their team.

1347
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the vibes are down so horrendously when

1348
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 4: we look at Tennessee watching all of their former stars

1349
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 4: have success almost everywhere else, and yeah, we're gonna add

1350
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins that it will be a heartbreaker to see

1351
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara somewhere having success making a playoff run, considering

1352
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 4: how much he's meant to the folks.

1353
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: It's the defense, though, that's their problem, man, which is like, Wow,

1354
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: they're nineteenth in defensive efficiency right now. And I think

1355
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: Herbert's played his best two games of the year in

1356
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: a row and his arrow is pointed up the Saints

1357
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: defense have given up the most rushing yards over expected

1358
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: since Week three. They have the fourth worst pressure rate,

1359
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: So Herbert's actually faced a lot of pressure lately. But

1360
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: I think you can protect him in this game. And

1361
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I actually would take the Chargers even

1362
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: I would even take the point. You take the seven

1363
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: on this sure. I think the Saints are just hands

1364
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: off right now.

1365
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a bad situation.

1366
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: And I understand where because I went did the mask,

1367
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 4: So that's a scary proposition. It's seventeen points a game

1368
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 4: for the Chargers. Yeah, here this season where that their scoring?

1369
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, where you're starting to wonder.

1370
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 4: And again, there were some plays that could have been

1371
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 4: made on Monday Night by Chargers receivers that were ultimately

1372
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 4: not But here we are and yet another season where

1373
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 4: you've got a good quarterback for a team that's coached

1374
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 4: by a hardball with Greg Roman calling the plays and

1375
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 4: orchestrating the offense, and we're wondering why they're not necessarily

1376
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 4: having the success that they could be outside and the

1377
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,479
Speaker 4: investments and the talent on the outside are a little

1378
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 4: bit lackadaisical.

1379
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean that's what it is. I mean

1380
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: they have no explosive I mean they have a quarterbacks,

1381
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: but it's twenty twenty four like you have. Yeah, they.

1382
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: Is good, but he also is always like he's playing

1383
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: through something, saying all that, like he gets hurt. It

1384
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: seems like every time he gets tackled, but then he's

1385
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: like fighting through it and gets up that I did

1386
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: want to point out the Saints are getting it's Carter

1387
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: a ton of people back. No, I'm not saying that.

1388
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: What does that mean the guy who acts like he

1389
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: got shot every I don't mean McConkie's acting like. I

1390
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: think he's playing through injuries because he's maybe not physical

1391
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: enough at the NFL level yet. And credit to him,

1392
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: he's playing pretty well. The Saints should get Taysom Hill,

1393
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: Chris o'lave, Caesar Ruiz, Lucas Patrick, and Pete Werner back helps.

1394
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: Those are five big time starters for them, so that's important.

1395
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: Maybe this seven is not too crazy.

1396
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 4: Maybe congratulations to Insanity on his induction, because I absolutely

1397
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 4: Herbert attempted quick passes at the highest rate in the league.

1398
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 2: By the way his teams are crowding the line of screp.

1399
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: I would say Novak Djokovic you know there's a guy

1400
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: who loved to accentuate his injuries. Let everyone know, but

1401
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: also you know one of the greatest of all times. Yes.

1402
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 5: Uh.

1403
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 4: The Baltimore Ravens eight and a half point favorites at

1404
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns over under his forty four and a half.

1405
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 4: Tom McCarthy, Ross Tucker and Jay Feely on the call

1406
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 4: as this will be Jamis Winston's starting greg with Ken

1407
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 4: Dorsey calling the plays as Kevin Sefanski has decided to

1408
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,479
Speaker 4: step back from his play calling responsibilities and he gets

1409
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 4: to do it. Ken Dorsey does against the defense that's

1410
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 4: allowing a lot of success on the outside.

1411
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: Can they get it? Yeah.

1412
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: Marlin Humphrey is questionable for this game coming off that

1413
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: knee injury. It sounds like it's not a long term issue,

1414
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: but could keep him out this week. And you mentioned

1415
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: their cornerbacks have struggled. I proposed they go ahead and

1416
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: acquire Marshawn Lattimore from the Saints. In my trades, we

1417
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 1: like to see, who knows, maybe in a couple of weeks.

1418
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Saints would ever give up

1419
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: Winston this change that he's starting, because Dorian Thompson Robinson

1420
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: isn't healthy anyways, but reportedly it would have been Winston.

1421
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't who knows, But now that Sefanski isn't calling

1422
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: the plays, it's yet another moment in this season in

1423
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: where I wonder who is making these decisions. It's unclear

1424
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: to me if it's Kevin Stefanski making these decisions.

1425
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where that Kevin decided to step back and

1426
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 3: do this. It's kind of like, okay, you know, let's

1427
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 3: we trade away on Marii Cooper. We really don't have,

1428
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: you know, a ton of threats to Nick Chubb is back.

1429
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, Jamis is going to push the

1430
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: ball down the field. We know that about Jamis, and

1431
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: we know the secondary has been real hot and cold.

1432
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 3: They put their linebackers, the Ravens to put their linebackers

1433
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: and some stressful coverage situations. I just don't think the

1434
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 3: Browns have the targets to really stress those guys out

1435
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: that much. You know, eight and a half to me

1436
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 3: is a big number for division game. You know, Baltimore

1437
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 3: could easily do it. It could get ugly, but I

1438
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 3: just think a division game act Cleveland, Jamis is going

1439
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 3: to push the ball a little bit. I don't know

1440
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 3: if Baltimore is going to completely blow them out in

1441
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 3: this game, but they're going to win this game.

1442
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: It's hard.

1443
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 4: It's hard to envision a Baltimore blowout the way that

1444
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 4: the defense has performed. Especially, Yeah, you go in, you

1445
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 4: expect right to look and see total failure on the defense,

1446
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 4: considering the points per game and the way things are going.

1447
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: Wow, but success rate rise in the run game. They

1448
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: are very good. They're very efficient, good players.

1449
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: You can just see it.

1450
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they show up and make plays.

1451
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: But again, this is a Cleveland Browns offense that has

1452
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 4: not scored more than twenty points the entire season. I

1453
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 4: know Jamis makes it better, but they still have problems

1454
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 4: that weren't all Watson related.

1455
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: But I think we get close to eight and a

1456
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: half points. But eight and a half is a lot.

1457
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: Look, I think it's I don't usually believe that prior

1458
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: results make a huge difference unless it's division opponents with

1459
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: the same coaches. In the last three years these two

1460
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: teams have split. There's actually been some one sided games

1461
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: for the Ravens and the Browns in either favor. That's

1462
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: been close games, but either way, it's been kind of

1463
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: a draw between these two teams. But that's why I

1464
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: don't get Sevanski not calling the plays. We've seen you

1465
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 1: call the plays with Joe Flacco and it worked great.

1466
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: We've seen you call it with Jacobe Brissett and it

1467
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: worked great. We've seen you call it with Baker Mayfield

1468
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: and that team offensively was ready to go to the

1469
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I thought, So that's curious to me. The

1470
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: one drive that Jamis had last week, I gotta say

1471
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: it was probably the most visually pleasing Cleveland Brown's drive

1472
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: of the season. Low bar, but very low, but it

1473
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: was one drive. I went back to watch it, and

1474
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: like you said, he was giving guys a chance to

1475
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: make plays and he did it. Cedric Tillman had some

1476
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: nice catches, and he's not afraid. He hasn't played much

1477
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: lately though. We have this idea of Jameis Winston, but

1478
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: he's only started three games in the last three years,

1479
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: so we just haven't seen him play a lot lately.

1480
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: I'll say this, Jamis might be one of most liked

1481
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 3: players in any locker room that he's in. His teammates

1482
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 3: like him, you know. Aaron Rodgers talked about bringing the

1483
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 3: joy to the locker room. Jamis does that, so we'll see.

1484
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 3: I mean I spoke to defensive coordinator this year whose

1485
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 3: team put it on the Browns, and he was like,

1486
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 3: we really thought they were gonna go to Jamis. And

1487
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 3: actually the way he pushes the ball down the field

1488
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 3: would have caused his problems back when Shawan Watch was healthy.

1489
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: So again, we'll see. That's a good point. He hasn't

1490
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 3: played in a long time. It's a little chaotic going

1491
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 3: on in Cleveland.

1492
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: Well, and can they protect. I've never seen an offensive

1493
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: line and I don't know if this is Watson or

1494
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: the coaches or the line. It's probably all of them,

1495
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: and they just they can't pick up a blitz. We

1496
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: Candorsey's problem now week after week after week. It kind

1497
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: of was Ken Dorsey's problem though in Buffalo too. So

1498
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: the Ravens can certainly get creative. I did want to

1499
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: give you a Ravens stat. Okay, only four teams since

1500
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety have averaged seven yards per play through the

1501
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: first seven weeks of the season. One of them is

1502
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Ravens, So that is the level

1503
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: that they are at. I will see if you guys

1504
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 1: can guess any of the other three teams that average

1505
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: seven yards per play for the first seven games of

1506
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: the season since nineteen.

1507
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: Well, it was seventeen to one Patriots, I mean right now.

1508
01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 4: No, surprisingly, No, the second year greatest show on turf

1509
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 4: rams had to be Yes, yeah, you got it?

1510
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 2: Is it ninety that's one.

1511
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: That's no, that's two thousand, two thousand. Good job, because

1512
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: that team was a wagon the year after they won

1513
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl for a while until they had injuries

1514
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: on defense. Wow, and they weren't the twenty three Dolphins okay,

1515
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: last year's off and then the nineteen ninety two forty

1516
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: nine ers that.

1517
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: Meant okay, Stevia, So there.

1518
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: That's how That's how good they are. And I like

1519
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: reading like the Derek Henry coach just about how amazing

1520
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: it is to play with Lamar Jackson. They're just so

1521
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: happy together.

1522
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: It's great.

1523
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just knocking on wood, Okay, just it's

1524
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: always amazing. Everyone was really excited about when Lamar went

1525
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: blocking for Derek could.

1526
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 4: He should have scored on that play and also Zion

1527
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 4: McCollum with an insane chase down to get him on

1528
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 4: the other play. Yeah, kerck Henry could have had two

1529
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 4: seventy plus yard touchdowns, but he said his slow butt,

1530
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 4: so he's gonna he's gonna make sure he Yeah, he

1531
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 4: actually ran too fast because Tylan Wallace had the third

1532
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 4: fastest speed from that game and he couldn't catch up

1533
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 4: to Derek to throw the block against the calm to

1534
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 4: spring him. So he could have slowed down and got

1535
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 4: away with that though. So we go from a generationally

1536
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 4: good offense to the Carolina Panthers taking on the Denver

1537
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 4: Broncos on the road at Denver, and congratulations to Bryce Young.

1538
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 4: You were now the starter with Andy Dalton dealing with

1539
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 4: an injury. The Broncos favored by nine the over under

1540
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 4: his forty three and a half with Jason mccordy and

1541
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 4: Chris Lewis on the call, Steve, it's a rough spot

1542
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 4: for hey.

1543
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: Congratulations Bryce.

1544
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 4: Now you're back against the number one passing efficiency defense

1545
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 4: in the NFL.

1546
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, hopefully Andy Dalton's okay. I know he's

1547
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 3: in the car accident with his family. I think he

1548
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: injured his hand in that accent. You know, first, it's like,

1549
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: who the hell of the Denver Bronco is going to

1550
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 3: beat by nine points. Well, anybody in the NFC South

1551
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 3: that they played. They won by nineteen over Tampa Bay

1552
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:55,520
Speaker 3: and twenty three over New Orleans. So Sean Payton continues

1553
01:11:55,680 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: owning the division where he used to coach. Look, it's

1554
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: Caroline is just you know, it's a mess right now.

1555
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 3: You know, we'll see if Bryce, you know, could get

1556
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 3: anything done offensively.

1557
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: What a tough spot.

1558
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: He's in a terrible spot right now to come in

1559
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: and playing against a team that's playing great defense. I mean,

1560
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 3: the Broncos get after teams, and so Vance Joseph is

1561
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: gonna give him a million different looks. We'll see if

1562
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 3: he can stand up and bounce back. But I'm the

1563
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 3: nine does not seem completely out of reach to me.

1564
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, the best thing Sean Payton did was higher

1565
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph, and he has brought a level of professionalism

1566
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: to the offensive line. They don't really make a ton

1567
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: of mistakes, they're pretty good on special teams. They're winning

1568
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: at the margins, so you got to give the head

1569
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: coach some credit for that. And Vance Joseph is dealing

1570
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 1: right now. Their third in defensive efficiency, they're twenty fourth

1571
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: in offense. Under Sean Payton. So the offense really hasn't

1572
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: gotten any better, but the defense keeps adding guys like

1573
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 1: Cody Barton was the defensive player of the week and

1574
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: they've added Baron Browning. I think Patrick Sartanne will be

1575
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: back for this game. The Panthers have been outscored by

1576
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three points this year. No one

1577
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: else in the NFC has been outscored by more than fifty.

1578
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: So there they lose.

1579
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: They lose, and they always lose. They only won once,

1580
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: so except for that Raiders game, they always lose. So

1581
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: it's a tough spot for Bryce to re enter the lineup.

1582
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: Guys are thinking about are they going to get traded

1583
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson, stuff like that. I think if you're Bo

1584
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: Nicks and the BRONC goes, it's actually is a I

1585
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: wouldn't say a big game, but you'd like to see

1586
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 1: some offensive progress against the worst defense in the league

1587
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: and show that you can throw the ball down the field.

1588
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 4: Well, I think the problem with that is still it's

1589
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 4: going to be so easy to get progress in running

1590
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 4: the ball right in terms of success percentage. This Panthers

1591
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,919
Speaker 4: defense one of the worst in terms of overall performance

1592
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 4: against the rush, it's one of the worst in the NFL.

1593
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 4: And Javonte Williams in this you mentioned the offensive line

1594
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 4: kind of doing what they're supposed to do, not necessarily

1595
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 4: leaping off the page and anything. But they've had that

1596
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 4: success and it's tough for me to imagine the possessions

1597
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 4: really being enough to get a proper evaluation for Bryce

1598
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 4: against the defense that's really good. And I don't know

1599
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 4: that bo Nicks is gonna need to do no he

1600
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 4: won any kind of thing against this. It's just a

1601
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 4: bad team all around. And Andy surprisingly didn't fix all

1602
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 4: of that by playing a few games.

1603
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: Broncos are going to be what five and three here?

1604
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: How about that?

1605
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: Halfway through the season. A little bit of a surprise

1606
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 1: shout out to Jason mccordy making his debut. As like

1607
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: the solo analysis, usually it's at three person booth with Tiki,

1608
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: but hey, no bye weeks, all gas, no breaks. One

1609
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: more break for the podcast though, we'll be back after that.

1610
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, Chiefs haven't lost in a long time.

1611
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: We were all different people back on Christmas of twenty

1612
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: twenty three was innocent times. We didn't know if interim

1613
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: head coach Antonio Pierce, who would get the job long term,

1614
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: but then he pulled off the upset, making Patrick Mahomes

1615
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 1: look worse than maybe any game I've ever seen, And

1616
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: here he is now and they get the rematch.

1617
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 4: A generational performance by Jack Jones of the Los Angeles Raiders,

1618
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 4: who was all over Patrick Mahomes, and that game had

1619
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 4: a pick six as well, and the Chiefs decided they

1620
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 4: weren't going to lose. After that, they are a ten

1621
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 4: point favorite at Las Vegas, where they have had a

1622
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 4: lot of success, almost exclusively successful with Patrick Mahomes. Yeah,

1623
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 4: I think Patrick Mahomes is I don't think he's ever

1624
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 4: lost in Vega. In Las Vegas forty one and a

1625
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 4: half the over under Kevin Harlan and Trent Green on

1626
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 4: the call, So that part will be exciting.

1627
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: Does Gardner Minshew make it excited? I can't even say.

1628
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: Now, forget about the Raiders in general. This team is

1629
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: forget about. Let's talk about the DeAndre Hopkins trade. If

1630
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 1: you were listening on Wednesday's show, some trades we'd like

1631
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: to see. We had Hopkins going to the Chiefs. I

1632
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: think we even threw out a fourth or fifth round

1633
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: pick and so look, we nailed it. Fun pickup. How

1634
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: much does Hopkins have left? I think enough. I watched

1635
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: the game he played early in the season where he

1636
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: had a number of targets and stuff like, he looked

1637
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: like he had juice. He had a little bit of

1638
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: an injury, and so that's always gonna be a concern

1639
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: with an older player. And we'll see. But he needs

1640
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's gonna need to just trust him in

1641
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: situations because he's not gonna be that open and quarterback

1642
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: that's accurate can put it in a position where he

1643
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: can go make tough catches. I mean, that's Patrick Mahomes.

1644
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: This is a godsend, I think for Patrick Mahomes, who's

1645
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: trying to make it work with like Juju, Smith, Schuster

1646
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 1: and Justin Watson. He's essentially gonna play the Justin Watson role.

1647
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: And I'd much rather have DeAndre Hopkins playing the Justine.

1648
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 3: He can look a lot more athletic and a lot

1649
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 3: more healthy playing with the Kansasy Chiefs. I mean, just

1650
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 3: like Amari Cooper look better playing for the Buffalo Bills.

1651
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 3: It's look, it's gonna be really good. With Kelsey. You

1652
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 3: almost have to have two intermediate route runners, right, Kelsey

1653
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field, intermediate guy kind of

1654
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 3: hashesn't out, kind of like Rashia Rice, kind of like

1655
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 3: Juju is doing. So you get a guy who can

1656
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 3: win the fifty to fifty balls, so you're better in

1657
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 3: the red zone. Right, that's a situation where they've got

1658
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 3: the Chiefs have to improve a little bit, open up

1659
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 3: some things for the run game. But you know, this

1660
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 3: game here there might be a couple of defensive scores

1661
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs as well. I mean, Gardner Minsch has

1662
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 3: been very kind, you know, with the ball, and so

1663
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 3: you know, look what's the number ten.

1664
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if the not.

1665
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 3: It's kind of a big number for a division game

1666
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 3: between these two because they they tended to play.

1667
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: But the Chiefs have wiped him out a couple times

1668
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: as well.

1669
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: This is the worst I think Minch has looked as

1670
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: a pro. I feel for him. I actually this is

1671
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: not He's usually not this bad. Last week was just

1672
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: not good.

1673
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 4: And he comes in in a situation right where he's

1674
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 4: not expecting to play. Maybe that has an aspect, but

1675
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 4: the season long, right, he's done a couple of really

1676
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 4: really questionable decisions throwing the football. It's kind of called

1677
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 4: the other way, and the other team's gotten points out

1678
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 4: of it. But I'm looking back, I'm thinking back, this

1679
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 4: is the best receiver the Chiefs have had since Tyreek

1680
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 4: Hill and Sammy Watkins, just in terms of like a

1681
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 4: technician out there where even then, when they draft Tyreek Hill,

1682
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 4: he's going to be a Andy Reid gadget guy and

1683
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 4: they don't know they're getting like this Canton level wide receiver,

1684
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 4: technician of the game, and so income's nuke and that

1685
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 4: makes everything better. It's frustrating as a fan of another

1686
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 4: AFC team right that the Chiefs are able to add

1687
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 4: this kind of talent where I think other.

1688
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 2: Teams could have used the DeAndre Hopkins perhaps.

1689
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: Isn't an amazing how they just go out and they

1690
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 3: just get receivers. I mean, who's a guy a couple

1691
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 3: of years ago they got from the Giants who's no

1692
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 3: longer with the.

1693
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: Team, Canarius Tony. Every year they've added a receiver who

1694
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: has made up play in the Super Bowl. So you

1695
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: got McCole, Hardman, get Juju back catches the game winner.

1696
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: Juju's got the hamstring injury. I don't know playing in

1697
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: this game. That one game Juju had might have been

1698
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: Juju's moment. Yeah, as like a big time difference maker.

1699
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: That's a good point that he really is. Because Xavier Worthy,

1700
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 1: who I think will get better as a pro, but

1701
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,879
Speaker 1: he has zero catches this season when facing press coverage

1702
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: like they just he just gets erased when he needs

1703
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: to be in a certain sort of role. Now and

1704
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: maybe improve and Hopkins can help him get in better spots. Man,

1705
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: this Chiefs team, they're getting better better.

1706
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 4: Rough news for everyone the team that shipped off new Hopkins.

1707
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 4: The Tennessee Titans on the road at the Detroit Lions,

1708
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 4: who are favored by eleven points the over under his

1709
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 4: forty five Kevin Coogler and Darryl Johnston on the call

1710
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 4: as Steve there is not gonna be a Will Levis

1711
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 4: we think right now, Coach Callahan says he Mason Rudolph

1712
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 4: to start once again. He started well against the Buffalo Bills,

1713
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 4: but then the Bills scored thirty four points going up

1714
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 4: against you can make it. I would make the case

1715
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions might be playing better football than anybody

1716
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 4: right now.

1717
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, look, the eleven I don't like the

1718
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 3: number just because Detroit came off a tough game against

1719
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 3: Minnesota and they got the Packers next week. Right, this

1720
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 3: is one where the eyeball gets stray a little bit.

1721
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 3: They should win this game. Tennessee's defensive times can look

1722
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: really really good. But I mean Detroit's offense, well, they

1723
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 3: want to dial it up, you know, with that run

1724
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 3: game and then mixing up all those different receivers.

1725
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I like Detroit to win it.

1726
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if I like the eleven here, but

1727
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: Tennessee just I mean, unfortunately they've got They've just got

1728
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 3: a pop gun on offense.

1729
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: They don't have anything where they can really generate some points.

1730
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the last level of dominance where it's not

1731
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 1: the biggest game in your season. You're coming off a

1732
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: huge win, you got one next, Like, can you just

1733
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: stomp out a team like this anyways, just because you're

1734
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: so focused and you're so talented. I tend to think

1735
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: they can. The Titans defense, it almost makes you think, like,

1736
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: how valuable is a good defense really if you don't

1737
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: have the offense. Because I watched that Bills game and

1738
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: it they held up, and they held up, and they

1739
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: held up and eventually, Like they're a good run defense,

1740
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: but the dam is going to break. They're a little

1741
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: easier to pass on, Like does it really matter? I

1742
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: do what wonder? I did some digging people saying there's

1743
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: no way they'll trade Jeffrey Simmons. Maybe Harold Landry would

1744
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: be a guy that they would consider, just because what

1745
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: are they doing this season? There's not much going on.

1746
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: This is the first game though, without Jamison Williams and right,

1747
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see if like Khleif Raymond can fill

1748
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: that spot. I think they'll be fine. Offensively, they are

1749
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: a rare team that can try to still run on

1750
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: the Titans, even though the Titans are a very good

1751
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: run defense.

1752
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 4: Jared Golf in his career against the number one total

1753
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 4: defense is three and eight. But I think this this

1754
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 4: situation is so different because Jared Golf is playing such

1755
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 4: good football. He's dealing right now, right now where Ben

1756
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 4: Johnson and he are linked up, where pressure is not

1757
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 4: an issue for Jared Golf. My friend Adam Rank loves

1758
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 4: to say that Jared Golf is an indoor cat, but

1759
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 4: once again, Jared Golf playing all of these games in

1760
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 4: dome stadiums this year, like the elements aren't necessarily an

1761
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 4: issue where it's I don't know. I do think for

1762
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 4: the Titan's sake what they are doing, I would agree

1763
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 4: in not trading Jeffrey Simmons. I would agree on keeping

1764
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 4: the unique talent that you have.

1765
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1766
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, My issue with Tennessee is they have not done that,

1767
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 4: and that's why they're in this hopeless position right now.

1768
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: Is abandoning their unique talents and trying to fill in

1769
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 2: spots and make it.

1770
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's not working, and Callahan's trying to thread

1771
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: the needle where it. Rudolph is likely to play this week,

1772
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: but once Levis is healthy, then he is the starter.

1773
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: He did openly say this season is about getting a

1774
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: full evaluation of Levis. He said that this week, and

1775
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, because it's not really about

1776
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: necessarily winning, not like Mason, Rudolph is going to really

1777
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: win games for you either, So why wouldn't you play him?

1778
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's tough. I mean, they signed Calvin Ridley.

1779
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:19,879
Speaker 1: He has thirty six targets right now for twelve catches.

1780
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1781
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, a lot of a lot of

1782
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 3: their veteran offse's acquisitions just have not materialized something with

1783
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 3: a few teams in terms of getting some veteran free

1784
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 3: agents where it just hasn't worked.

1785
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: Jerius Snead is another one has not really played well

1786
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: for them.

1787
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, you know, I think Callahan will eventually

1788
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 3: get it right, but it's it ain't gonna be this year.

1789
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: And Jared Goff, this whole MVP thing, Everyone's like, oh,

1790
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: Jared Goff's the MVP. Well, first of all, it's so early.

1791
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: This is why I get annoyed with the early MVP

1792
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: talk because if we were truly looking at it, like, Okay,

1793
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: who's the MVP of the first six weeks? His first

1794
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: three weeks were one of the worst three weeks I've

1795
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: seen from Jared Goff, people just wipe that out of

1796
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: their mind. Uh, Like, since he arrived in Detroit, he

1797
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,560
Speaker 1: had a bad first three weeks. So that's half the

1798
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: season so far. So I'm not giving the MVP to

1799
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: the guy who half the season was struggling. I'm not

1800
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: a hater, but I will point out only one tight

1801
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: window throw last week and almost none the week before too,

1802
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: Like they're setting him up and he's knocking it down.

1803
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: He was great last week, I need a rant.

1804
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: Patrick had a Dandy. That was a good one right there.

1805
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: My patience wasn't get out him, get out somebody, Steve.

1806
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: So good to have the whole group back, uh. In

1807
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio, we're gonna wrap it up here.

1808
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: Thank you for.

1809
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: Watching NFL daily. We'll be back TNF recap. Not doing

1810
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: a live YouTube this time because it's gonna be a

1811
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 1: late night taping.

1812
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: Me and JB.

1813
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: Long. We got to get back home and fight through

1814
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: the Englewood traffic because I'll be at Rams Viker so well, JP,

1815
01:24:54,320 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: We'll see you then. Look when football back