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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so

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Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar

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Speaker 1: Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, December thirteenth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, season seventeen, episode number seventy seven. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break, live from the s

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Speaker 1: WBC Morgan Studios at the Star. We appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: joining us. We got a break down the Cowboys win yesterday,

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Speaker 1: a division win twenty seven twenty. There were a lot

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Speaker 1: of things at that we went right for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: There were just as many things I think that could

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Speaker 1: have gone or it'd go wrong for them. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about all that in the course of today's show. We're

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Speaker 1: not joined today by Dave. Dave is traveling today, but

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Speaker 1: we got a special guest Dan with us, mister Nate

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Speaker 1: Newton talk a little football with him. Of course, we

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Speaker 1: love getting Nick and Nate together because that goes back

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Speaker 1: to the Nick and Night days when Nick and Nate

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Speaker 1: of Valley Rent. So we ay glad to be here, man,

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Speaker 1: And I first to say, Man, I guess Washington telling

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Speaker 1: all the guys. You know, hey, man, we was there.

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Speaker 1: It was a moral victory. It was missing players. And

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Speaker 1: so that moral victory thing is off of the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: and back onto the risk, I mean reserves to reserve people.

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Speaker 1: We'll see we started early, right, I'll just say we'll see.

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Speaker 1: It was a moral victory. So we know that they

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Speaker 1: happen to Thank you, Hey, Nick, real quick, give me

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Speaker 1: a seventy seven. This is how we start off our show.

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Speaker 1: And Nick using gives me the show number. He gives

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Speaker 1: me a player associated with the number seventy seven. Give

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Speaker 1: me a player first, first player that comes to mind,

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Speaker 1: the seventy seven. Well not for me. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: good one, actually, really good. His son actually just won

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Speaker 1: the Great Cup in Canada. They just his team just

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Speaker 1: won the Great Yeah, Jack, Yeah, that's the one. Jim,

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Speaker 1: Jim Jeff Coote was well, I mean, obviously right now,

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Speaker 1: you know this team doesn't function if they don't have

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Speaker 1: their seventy seven. Yes, it's Tyrn Smith. He's the guy.

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Speaker 1: I remember we said if I could have one thing

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Speaker 1: I liked kind of the mannerisms I saw from him,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think this is a long term thing.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's a short term thing either.

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Speaker 1: let's start with the big picture. Give me a storyline

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Speaker 1: from this game. What is the big picture storyline you

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Speaker 1: think coming out of this game? Well, for me, it

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Speaker 1: You know, people say, well, it's not how you start,

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Speaker 1: how you finish. I don't know about that. That's how

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Speaker 1: they absolutely kick Washington's ass up and down the field there.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a division game. If they got any proud

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Speaker 1: story of the game, you know, But it's three things

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Speaker 1: And this is the NFC East where wacky things happened.

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Speaker 1: this point. It's not about style points, it's not about

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Speaker 1: Now you got to handle your dog over you and

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Speaker 1: a long post and bring eighty six the young Bay

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Speaker 1: shots right up under there and let him run a

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Speaker 1: why option that Jason Jason went and greatest play forever.

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Speaker 1: Let him run a wy option. It's they are refusing

429
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Speaker 1: to throw the mid range game. You have to throw

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Speaker 1: the mid range game. And I'm not saying Dak is

431
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I am not saying that. But guess who

432
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Speaker 1: had to learn that? The kid, the kid in Casey say,

433
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm about to learn to cut you

434
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Speaker 1: about thousand cuts exactly. I don't have to get it

435
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: all play. Yeah, Dak has to go into that same mentality.

436
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Speaker 1: Now every time you see him, it's twenty thirty yards.

437
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Speaker 1: Its submit range game. And now that says, here's fifteen

438
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Speaker 1: to twelve yards, let's take advantage of it. I'm just

439
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Speaker 1: looking at this. I mean I put I'm put more

440
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Speaker 1: on Kellen now than I did before. Yeah, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's four. They snapped that ball with four

442
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Speaker 1: twenty four to go and back through an interception. You're

443
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Speaker 1: up thirteen points. You should have run the football around

444
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Speaker 1: second and six. You just got four yards with Corey

445
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Speaker 1: Clement like like Nate saying, so with second and six

446
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Speaker 1: with four to twenty four to go, you run two

447
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Speaker 1: in a row. If Rivera wants to cause timeout's great.

448
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, then you're punting the ball with three

449
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Speaker 1: eighteen to go, up thirteen points against Kyle Allen and

450
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Speaker 1: whoever is playing quarter your defense playing off the charts. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: I mean it so it was so bad or so good,

452
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Speaker 1: depending on how you want to say it. That I

453
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: said this to you in the press box. I have

454
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Speaker 1: more confidence with the Cowboys defensive backs getting interceptions than

455
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Speaker 1: I do the Cowboys making catching the ball. I mean

456
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Speaker 1: I thought, I mean they were gonna make more plays

457
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Speaker 1: on defense. Now we got to be careful. We don't

458
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: know if that was a call run and and Dak

459
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: checked out of it. We don't know that, but it

460
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: certainly was whoever made that decision. True, you got to

461
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: question that decision a little bit. But it comes a point.

462
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Speaker 1: As a head coach and as an offensive coordinator, you say,

463
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Speaker 1: when you say, don't no, check with me that run

464
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Speaker 1: to play and see that that and I go a

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Speaker 1: step further. Zeke, I love you, but no, see players.

466
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Speaker 1: When you start letting players run this ship that ain't

467
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: been to the top of the mountain, explain that. What

468
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: do you mean? Zeke? No, Zeke, No, you're not playing. No,

469
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Speaker 1: you're not playing. See him down, dragging him off the field,

470
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Speaker 1: like said, yeah, consider yourself, drug chin. I don't look

471
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Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, I'm just for the good of the team.

472
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Speaker 1: For because one thing I did not know just looking

473
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Speaker 1: at film and looking at TV. Homeboy was a cartoonist.

474
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Speaker 1: The quarterback for the for Washington Reserves. He's a cartoonist. Yeah, yeah,

475
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: you're right. You you look at number four, the original

476
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Speaker 1: number four for Green Bay. You ain't that, and Neville

477
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Speaker 1: will be that. You just a rubber arm, that's all

478
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Speaker 1: you are. Because this defense showed you see, when you

479
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: have a playoff caliber defense or defense that played on

480
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: a on a in a caliber, high caliber way, you

481
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Speaker 1: find out who the real guys are. And he's not real. Yeah,

482
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Speaker 1: I hope he plays in two weeks, Yes, sir. I

483
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: mean because every time Kyle Allen got in the game,

484
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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm the same dude that game

485
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Speaker 1: to ATNT Stadium, Lascari. Yeah that was Alex Smith was

486
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Speaker 1: at the first game, first game at home. Yeah, first game, LA.

487
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Speaker 1: So he was scared. He was. He was a little

488
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Speaker 1: bit more scarier than the other guy. Yeah, when he

489
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Speaker 1: first came in, you and I both thach other like,

490
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know about this. I'd be happy,

491
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Speaker 1: Well get him back whatever. Heineke was held to start

492
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Speaker 1: the game. He was a little bit different after a

493
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Speaker 1: number eleven laid on him and hurt him and forced

494
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Speaker 1: the fumble. Like that play right, there was a huge

495
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Speaker 1: play in the game. Now only did he get him

496
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Speaker 1: a touchdown to make it eighteen nothing, but he wasn't

497
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: feeling too good after that and um, you know, I

498
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: mean it was just it was that right there. I mean,

499
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: I saw two of the best defensive plays we've seen

500
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Speaker 1: in a long time. But I mean, I don't know

501
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: where we're gonna get to Randy Gregory, but that, to

502
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: me was the greatest defensive player that I can remember

503
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: seeing ever. I mean that I couldn't stop just thinking

504
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: that was a phenomenal play. I'm talking about the intercept. No,

505
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: that was gonna be the other one. I thought he

506
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: was gonna mention those are the two plays in that

507
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Speaker 1: game to me defensively, while I was like, those were

508
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: just phenomenal athletes. A hat trick. He got a hat

509
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Speaker 1: trick in hockey that's three goals in one game or

510
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: soccer or whatever. He bull rushed his guy, got a sack,

511
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: hurt the quarterback, hurt the center. Yeah, and he's not

512
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Speaker 1: trying to hurt anyone, but I mean, but he went

513
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Speaker 1: through he went through both guys. Yeah, and you know this, Yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: thirty fourteen weeks, thirteen years right in a while, guy

515
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: like the guy just to run over a guy. Yeah, Okay,

516
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean it's been a while since Ratliffe. Maybe do

517
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Speaker 1: you hear the show this morning on the fan, when

518
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Speaker 1: I was talking a fan, they asked about when the

519
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: last time the guys have been like this? And I

520
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: kind of forgot about Ratliff. I should have mentioned him.

521
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: But when's the last time that they've had this kind

522
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: of success with all these different weapons on defense like that?

523
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: And I really don't think it's it's it's it was

524
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: probably too tall, Harvey Martin and Randy White. It was

525
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: probably that because they tried with the Marcus ware to

526
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: make that and rat Luff and Canty and spearits, but

527
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: it just didn't work. They weren't that dynamic. This the

528
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: thing that makes these dudes different. The one thing that

529
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: makes them different is they all show up when we

530
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: need the play. We've had guys that come in hire

531
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Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, you got two sacks and no fumbles,

532
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: no turnovers, came off. It was early in the game.

533
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: It's the fourth quarter. We need somebody to make This

534
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: is the difference in this defense. You get to the

535
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: end of the game. Back back when we've had some

536
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: of these other guys, you'd be like, oh, they had

537
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: two sex and you don't even really remember it because

538
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: it was inconsequential to some degree, these guys are making

539
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: players and moments they need. And I'm gonna gohea and

540
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: say it right now, like this is I don't care

541
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Speaker 1: what's happening with the offense. They're gonna have to figure

542
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: it out. But this is the kind of formula that

543
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: the New York Giants won the Super Bowl with. They had,

544
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: they had that NASCAR package where they put those guys

545
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: on the field who could all get after the pastor,

546
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: and they wrote it all the way to championship. Beat

547
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: three of the top offenses in the league that year

548
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: in the playoffs to ride that to a championship because

549
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: they had such a dominant front on defense. That's what

550
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: this defense can be if they can stay healthy and

551
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: they can keep playing at the level that they're playing. Arose.

552
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: It was rounded by Eli Manning. I mean, they weren't

553
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: all right, they weren't great. They certainly weren't great, but

554
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: they just kind of had to make a player two

555
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: here or there each game. But that defense was smothering.

556
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: That was the defense that came in here and beat

557
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: the Cowboys when that offense that year was one. I mean,

558
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: they were really really good. Now, I think they also

559
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: beat Green Bay and it was one other team they

560
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: beat that was a really good offense that year in

561
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: the in the in the it'd be like Tampa and

562
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean New England. They beat New England and yeah,

563
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: yeah they were good, they were nice. Yeah they're pretty good.

564
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, this matter. But you're right though, this team

565
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: can do that. This team can win. They can't. They

566
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: can win the Super Bowl. They really can't. I mean,

567
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: every everybody's got their flaws, everyone's everyone's got issues. It's

568
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: gonna get to the tournament and you gotta see what happens.

569
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: But this defense is good enough to make plays. And

570
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: their offense, I mean, yeah, they're not playing well, but

571
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: I'll take my chances. I'll take my chances on an

572
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: offense that's been ranked number one most of the year.

573
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: Now they're struggling now, But you know, I was thinking

574
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: about that this morning. I mean, cold weather is gonna

575
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: factor into some of these games. There's one spot that's

576
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: gonna be cold. And you know that the Cowboys are

577
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 1: going there because of McCarthy. You know, you know it's

578
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen. They're probably to go to Green Bay. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying Tampa, I mean Arizona, La you don't

580
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: have to go to La probably unless they win to

581
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Speaker 1: Night and beat Arizona. But the counter are hoping for hope. Well,

582
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: when you start thinking about it like you want Arizona

583
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Speaker 1: to lose because then you have an opportunity to beat

584
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Arizona as well, that pulls it back into the pack.

585
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: Because that's the one thing you can remember about the Cowboys.

586
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: If you get into a full tie where all those

587
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: teams in the top four or five are in a tie, Cowboys,

588
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: I think I want to say the first tiebreak is yeah,

589
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: it's it's up. It's gonna be division first, and then

590
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna yeah, but it's gonna be division, and then

591
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: it's going to be your record in the conference. Dallas's losses,

592
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: by and large I come against the AFC. Most other

593
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: teams are not like that. So this is actually there

594
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: is a path for the Cowboys if they can keep winning.

595
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: But again, they're playing some bad teams down the stretch.

596
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Speaker 1: If they can keep winning, they certainly will be in

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Speaker 1: position and starts with they need Arizona to lose that

598
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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about this offensive line. Particularly, I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: Tyren Smith, where he is from a health standpoint, and

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603
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Speaker 1: the final segment of the Break. Life in the s

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Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Let's talk a little

650
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: offensive line. We got Nate Newton with us, so of

651
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: course we need to talk some offensive line. The Cowboys

652
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: yesterday gave up four sacks. They ran the ball, as

653
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: you said, Nate, you thought they did okay with the

654
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: running game. Obviously, the number of times they were able

655
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: to run kept the clock moving in some instances. Certainly

656
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: weren't able to run it to the level that I

657
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: think we want them to be able to run, especially

658
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: if your passing game is not working. That all being saying,

659
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: how would you have? What did you what did you

660
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: see from the offensive line yesterday? Let's start with your

661
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: nick Be honest, I think they play it okay. Uh,

662
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with Jonathan Allen and the round pain,

663
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: that's different. Brother. That that's Pro Bowl, all pro level.

664
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: That's first round picks that have not you know, have

665
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: not failed. And so even though there's missing two outside

666
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: guys and Sweat and the other kid, Chase Young, they

667
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: still had a fortified front and then and they were good.

668
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: So I knew we weren't gonna move the ball for

669
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: what we got yesterday was perfect. So the offensive line

670
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: does not bother me. Now we talked about off air,

671
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: which left guard we want. I don't have a problem

672
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: with either one of them. But what you cannot have

673
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: going down the stretch is these penalties. We gotta cut

674
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: out the costly penalties, the holdings, you know, the all sides,

675
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: we gotta we can't have that. And so that's what

676
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: I think they sked over Connor, is that that that

677
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: at the wrong time, we're gonna get that holding and

678
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost us dearly. And that's what they're skeed

679
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: up that happened in this game. I mean an eighteen

680
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: to nothing pinned back there a little bit deep ball

681
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: to uh gallop right from forty five yards and it

682
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: was holding. I mean, Lyell was holding his guy. Um.

683
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: But you think I got passed got off if he

684
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: didn't hold like the guy was coming. Do you think

685
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: he gets to dock if he didn't hold. Maybe, I

686
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: don't know. It just can't happen. It cannot happen. And

687
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: the funny thing that is Lyle has fallen so far.

688
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: He worked so hard to get that right hand going

689
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: now to just use that right hand. He was punching

690
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: before he got hurt. He was punching with that right

691
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: hand and dropping. He was playing Pro Bowl ball and

692
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: now within within a year and a half with the

693
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: COVID and in the operation, man, he's just a catcher.

694
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: He's still physical, he's still mean, but he's a catcher.

695
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: And it's gonna cost you down the stretch. You know,

696
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: is that something you in your experience as a as

697
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: an offensive linement, is that something that he still can

698
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: get back to the level that he was, so you

699
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: can get back to it. But now is he is

700
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: he limber? Is he he had flexibility in his hipskin?

701
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: He twitched and turn and that's what I'm scared he

702
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: can't do. So now you got still who's not as strong,

703
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: not as physical, but he plays with technique and technique

704
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: to save you down the stretch. You know, I think

705
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: there's something else I think we need to talk about too,

706
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: with the offensive line, and Nate is perfect to talk

707
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: about that too, because he was a part of it

708
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: back in the nineties. You know, when there's there's other

709
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: team in some big, bad bullies that got your number

710
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: and they feel like they own you and you have

711
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: to take it. You have to take it back. And

712
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: I know that. You know they didn't play as great

713
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: in the offensive line, but there was something that happened

714
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: in that game that can't be overlooked. Okay, because a

715
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: year ago Andy Dalton got hit and everybody's sitting watching

716
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: him by how that looked like that hurt dang And

717
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: they didn't do a damn thing. They didn't do one

718
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: thing about that. In all fifteen yards, you're rejected, like, oh, okay,

719
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: who's in now? De Nucci? This time that gets pushed

720
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: out of bounds. Zeke goes after him, and Lionel says,

721
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: I don't give an f I'm going over there to head,

722
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: but this guy punched him. I don't know what's gonna happen,

723
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: but that right there, to me was a turning point

724
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of things. You're not gonna come over

725
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: here and bullet us around and push us around. We

726
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: came into your house, but kicked your ass, and we're

727
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: gonna keep kicking your ass. I thought that was a huge,

728
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: huge point and it could take I could carry this

729
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: team on for a while. Believe I know you were

730
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: asking for it. You get an opportunity to talk to life.

731
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: I did talk to like, what do you have to

732
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: say about all that? Hey said, I'm gonna protect my

733
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: quarterback at all. Hold on getting Nate to talk about this,

734
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna read the quote because I

735
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: can't paraphrase. That is good and I have it right.

736
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Nate O. There times as an offensive lineman where you

737
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: say I don't care if I get kicked out of

738
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: the game. I gotta make a point. I was. I

739
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: was the easy at all of our officive line. I

740
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: was the most easy going guy you know and then

741
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: want no problems. But they knew. Everybody knew that. Okay,

742
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: big Neon, They'm gonna do that, and he gonna play

743
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: his game. He's gonna be physically gonna try to mal you.

744
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: But if you touch Troy, you touch Mike, you touch

745
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: him and in the wrong way, his own, his own,

746
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: and its popping. And see the thing about it, I

747
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: ain't gonna I ain't gonna fight you, ain't gonna we

748
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: ain't fin the tussle. I'm just gonna look at his

749
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: name at homeboy, you got to watch out for the

750
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: rest of the game. Protake your ankles, protaking I'm telling them.

751
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: They looking at me and I'm saying, now, you may

752
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: think it's a joke, but you better look out for

753
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the game. And when I roll up

754
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: on him, you know, three hundred and thirty pounds rolling

755
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: up on your on your knee ain't nothing nice. Because

756
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: they knew I don't play that way. But if you

757
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: touch my boys, because that was my money maker off.

758
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, I had three Super Bowl tickets,

759
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: but then I get extra super Bowl tickets. Yeah, I'm

760
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: gonna let you hurt my money makers. But yeah, all right,

761
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: So I asked, I, like, y'all about the hit on

762
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: the sideline. He said, it wasn't really the late hit

763
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: for me. It was more or so. I felt like

764
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: he was rolling towards Dak's leg. It was on called for.

765
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm here to protect my quarterback at all costs, and

766
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. It sounds like the rock here.

767
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: But I asked them, you saw the play last year

768
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton. He said, I was at home in

769
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: my bed when I saw that play. It irked me.

770
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: It made me feel some kind of way. You don't

771
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: take cheap shots on guys. We don't play that type

772
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: of game. We line up and go out there and

773
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: play ball. We don't play dirty, we don't do none

774
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: of that. At the end of the day, We're not

775
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna take no bullshit. That's what he said. And I

776
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: apologize for that, but I mean that that's what he said.

777
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: We could beat it out, we want to, but that's

778
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. And they end up

779
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: taking that crap. They didn't take those crappy benches. They

780
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: put that off the side and not gonna take the

781
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: crappy play like that. I thought it was very, very

782
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: important to establish that and and you know, we'll see

783
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: what happens to play him again Christmas tay after Christmas.

784
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that this thing just got ratcheted up one

785
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: more notchet Really, what you think about those two go ahead?

786
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I great, protect your quarterback or whatever,

787
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: but I want to see them play better. I don't

788
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: care about that ruffling, pushing, punching when you're hitting a

789
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: helmet at the end of the day, hurt your hand.

790
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never been in that kind of

791
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: fighting before, but have you ever been any kind of

792
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: fighting before? Not really good but and I hopefully keep

793
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: it that way. But you know, this whole thing is

794
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: very confusing to me because initially, first half of the season,

795
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: we look at how the offense was playing and we

796
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: were just like, Okay, the only thing we really gotta

797
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: fix here is red zone and the old line, you know,

798
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Connor Williams and all that. And then all of a sudden,

799
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: you look at what they are now, and although they

800
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: seem very close to be in that kind of offense again,

801
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: dynamic scoring points and all that, it seems so far

802
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: at the same time, because not only is it the

803
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: old line, you got you're now talking about the running game,

804
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: You're now talking about Dak Prescott, You're now talking about

805
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and the amazing playbook that he had put

806
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: together in such a creative guy. Where did that all go?

807
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: So it's just it's hard to fig around exactly how

808
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: I feel right now with this offensive, with the offense

809
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: in general, because like I said, it seems very fixable,

810
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: but it doesn't at the same time, and you look

811
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: at the teams that they've been going up against lately,

812
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: and I've learned my lesson never never underestimate an opposing team,

813
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: no matter how they've been playing. In this season, I

814
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: have learned that. But now we can talk about the

815
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: past games, you know, looking at those teams and how

816
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: they played, I feel it's it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing the

817
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: way that Dallas has been performing in the past few weeks.

818
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: And this last last stretch of the season. We got

819
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: the division opponents and you look at them, You're like, Okay, yeah,

820
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: they can go and be the Giants very well. But

821
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: then are you getting better? Like, yeah, you can't get better.

822
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: But it makes me wondering question, Okay, how is this

823
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna really look once you start facing playoff opponents. And

824
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: I get it. The defense it's playing well, but you

825
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: can't just rely on your defense either, you know, I

826
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: get it. You just talked about that, and many people

827
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: say defenses win championships, don't get Michael Ervis thought on that,

828
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: by the way, he don't believe it. But I mean,

829
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: at some point you need your offense to perform and

830
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: you need your and your defense can get tired. And yeah,

831
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: you can have the explosive guys and this three headed

832
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: monster which we are all in for and love and

833
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: are really looking forward to see what else can they do.

834
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: But it's just it sucks right now. I'm excited, but

835
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: then it's like, what are we doing? I don't know.

836
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm just very mixed feeling. It doesn't suck, And I

837
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: mean that's your opinion, and I respect that, but like,

838
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's embarrassing and I don't think it sucks.

839
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: I think it's December football on the road. You've won

840
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: two road games in a row. It doesn't have to

841
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: be pretty. It won't be pretty. It won't be pretty

842
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: this time of year. But I mean, you go on

843
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: the road with this banged up team as this has

844
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: been it's been dysfunctional, and it's not. This won't be

845
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: like this. This offense won't won't be a team that

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Speaker 1: can go to the Stuper Bowl. Like I said that

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago, the offense is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to turn it around to do that. But I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying I believe that that this this is winning football.

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Speaker 1: Like they are figuring out ways to win. Uh, they

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00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: figured out a couple ways to lose, you know, but

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Speaker 1: they they played, they were battling against Kansas City that

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Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna happen. They're battling against the Raiders. Raiders

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00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: that Raiders suck, right team, But they beat the A

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00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: bad loss, there's no doubt about it. That's bad loss.

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Speaker 1: You can say all you want. If they had any receivers,

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00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: they would have been all right. But they didn't, and

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Speaker 1: they lost. No one cares about what Washington had. No

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Speaker 1: one cares about what you didn't have. No one cares

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Speaker 1: about that lost. So they lost. So that's your opinion.

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Speaker 1: If you think it's embarrassing that, I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: because I just feel like, hey, they figured out I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a three game stretch on the road. That's

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Speaker 1: the first thing we saw when the schedule came out.

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Speaker 1: Well I did, I'm like three in a row in December.

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Speaker 1: You gotta kidding me. And they've won two of them

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Speaker 1: right now they have a good chance to win three.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's great. But I'll say it again,

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Speaker 1: it is embarrassing and it does suck. And like I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone can have their opinion. But how I see it

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Speaker 1: is when you look at this roster, you look at

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Speaker 1: all the talent all the way down from receivers. We

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Speaker 1: praised about the tight end position, how well they were playing.

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Speaker 1: We talk about the talent on the old line, despite

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Speaker 1: the mistakes that they've made. But you look at just

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Speaker 1: the roster of a law overall and see the way

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Speaker 1: that they're performing, that does suck. Before we end the show,

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Speaker 1: real quick, Nate, I want you to tell me, and

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Speaker 1: I've always had this belief that all teams, championship teams included,

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Speaker 1: all teams have portions of their season where there are challenges,

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Speaker 1: where there are moments where everybody's like, man, this team

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00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: and they got some problems. Go back to those nineties days,

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Speaker 1: because we all in retrospect look back at those days

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Speaker 1: as the Chlory days, everything was great. Did y'all have

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Speaker 1: part portions of seasons Yeah, where it was like, man,

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Speaker 1: everybody's looking at your sideways like, man, that team, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, they're not championship quality, they're not doing this.

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Speaker 1: Did y'all have that? And how did y'all manage to

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Speaker 1: work through that to get back to a level where

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Speaker 1: you then in the playoffs were playing at a championship level.

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Speaker 1: The only problem this team has and we're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: obviously I'm finished state something that's so simple. The only

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Speaker 1: problem that this team has is they have never played

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Speaker 1: two or more consistence weeks on a high level to

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Speaker 1: know where they're at. They don't know where they're at,

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Speaker 1: and they don't know how good they are, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to somehow in the next three or four

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Speaker 1: weeks find that. So if they get into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: you got to know who you are. And what kept us, man,

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Speaker 1: is those three guys I told y'all hurt somebody about.

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Speaker 1: They knew that level. The coaches knew that level. Everybody's

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00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: trying to find out who they are. We know who

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00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is, we know this young guys just playing lightside.

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Speaker 1: We know that right there. But the rest of the team,

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Speaker 1: they don't know who they are. They don't know how

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Speaker 1: good they can really be. And we've had some guys

907
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: had some success in college, but it's in college. So

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00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: until they have that two or three game stretch where

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Speaker 1: they'd be like, boy, we we as a team laid

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Speaker 1: and own somebody, they just don't know. They just don't know. All.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We'll be back tomorrow. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into some big picture items. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: this NFC and where the Cowboys stand there and what

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Speaker 1: has to happen this weekend and maybe next to maybe

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Speaker 1: wrap up the division. We'll talk about that tomorrow. Till

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Speaker 1: then for Nick Keapman, Amber Garcia, Nate Newton. I'm Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: This has been Davel on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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