Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky, joky,
Speaker 1: I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, I said, I los nandaz Plice. Hey boo,
Speaker 1: it's me Roz and welcome to Ghostard by Roz Hernandez.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year. I sat down with John Gabriis, the
Speaker 1: hilarious comedian actor. I'm just gonna warn you right off
Speaker 1: the bat, this is this conversation gets it's is sexual
Speaker 1: in nature, but holy sha is he funny. And you
Speaker 1: know I do every once in a while I like
Speaker 1: to represent the underrepresented voices here at Ghosted, that being
Speaker 1: heterosexual men, and there's a short list of them that
Speaker 1: we have on here. But when we do we get
Speaker 1: some good ones. And this is a funny one, this
Speaker 1: John Gabrius. So you're gonna want to stick around. But
Speaker 1: if you're one of those people that's like, I love
Speaker 1: listening to you with my kids. No, not this one. Okay,
Speaker 1: before we get into that, I do have a story
Speaker 1: i'd like to share with you. This one comes from
Speaker 1: Justin Justin Wrights. Here's the backstory to this story. My
Speaker 1: grandmother was my biggest support during my tumultuous life. She
Speaker 1: raised me for the first four years until my mother
Speaker 1: decided to move to another state. Throughout the years, she's
Speaker 1: proven time and time again that she's there for me,
Speaker 1: even to this day. Last night, I was having a
Speaker 1: rough time due to partner issues. I woke up and
Speaker 1: was having trouble getting back to sleep, so I decided
Speaker 1: to finish up a podcast I had started. I fell
Speaker 1: asleep listening around three AM, and your show started to
Speaker 1: auto play because it was next on my list. While
Speaker 1: the episode with Detox was playing, I had the most
Speaker 1: vivid dream. I was moving my car for some reason,
Speaker 1: and lo and behold, my grandma comes strolling out of
Speaker 1: the house. In life, she was blind and a bit frail,
Speaker 1: but here she was lively and giddy to see me.
Speaker 1: She got in the car and we started talking. Instantly
Speaker 1: I felt better here she was showing up to be
Speaker 1: my rock yet again. Weird part of the dream was
Speaker 1: that since your show was playing, somehow you made it
Speaker 1: with me to see my grandma. You came outside and
Speaker 1: asked us what we heard on the EVP or ev police.
Speaker 1: Then I woke up. There's more to it, but it
Speaker 1: sounds weird writing it.
Speaker 2: All out.
Speaker 1: I don't recall what Grandma said, but she always seems
Speaker 1: to show up when I need her, and this time
Speaker 1: you happen to be there for that experience. Thank you, Ah, Justin.
Speaker 1: I'm honored to be there with your grandmother and you.
Speaker 1: That is such a sweet story. I'm obsessed with When
Speaker 1: this has happened multiple times over the years, A few times,
Speaker 1: just a few where people send me dreams that I
Speaker 1: end up in. I'm obsessed. You know. I don't want
Speaker 1: to open it up to people. Send me all of
Speaker 1: your dreams. If it involves me, that changes, it changes
Speaker 1: things for me. So if it does involve me and
Speaker 1: it's paranormal in nature, send it on over because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely honored to make a cameo in your in
Speaker 1: your sleep state. Thank you, Justin. Okay, let's get into
Speaker 1: this conversation. I haven't left this hard in a minute.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, here we go my conversation with John
Speaker 1: Gabris and with the show.
Speaker 2: John Gabriel, Hi, Roz, thank you for having me. Thanks
Speaker 2: for doing this.
Speaker 1: On January sixth, I know my favorite holidays today for
Speaker 1: us over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're recording advance, so maybe I'm the j Johnstone
Speaker 2: of the Liberal J six and I'm getting arrested right now.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, that's interesting. Huh that guy went to prison.
Speaker 2: Huh, I believe so. Unfortunately Jimmy Pesto and mister show
Speaker 2: sketch cast member is in jail. Unfortunately for him, only
Speaker 2: he shouldn't have been there. Yeah, you don't get arrested
Speaker 2: if you're not there rioting.
Speaker 1: That's that's a good point. I do want to know
Speaker 1: what you think of aliens. Everyone keeps bringing up aliens to.
Speaker 2: Me interesting, I definitely think, and not to you know,
Speaker 2: immediately attack the conceit of the show. But in my mind,
Speaker 2: aliens are more realistic than ghosts, which I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's a competition, Okay, in my.
Speaker 1: Mind alienating my audience.
Speaker 2: I seem to think that it's more likely that there
Speaker 2: are aliens than ghosts. But that being said that that
Speaker 2: doesn't discount I don't think that there isn't the ghosts necessarily.
Speaker 2: I just think aliens is more likely, And that might
Speaker 2: be just like annoying science brain of like, there's got
Speaker 2: to be other species that we don't understand out there,
Speaker 2: and hell, who knows, maybe ghosts are just some weird aliens.
Speaker 2: And then I think we talked about this on my
Speaker 2: episode on your episode of my show too, because I'm
Speaker 2: obsessed with like what the human brain is capable of,
Speaker 2: and like what it could potentially what we might be
Speaker 2: misinterpreting from our own brain in ways, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, like trying to explain phenomena that we experience
Speaker 2: because the brain is a complex computer, and then we
Speaker 2: apply it to like a haunting or an alien abduction,
Speaker 2: or a past lives or regression or you know, I'm
Speaker 2: communicating with the dead, like all those things are possible.
Speaker 2: But it's hard not to discount the power of the brain.
Speaker 2: Like if you do any hallucinogens, You're like, well, my
Speaker 2: brain can do things that I'm not prepared for totally.
Speaker 2: But that's okay, But what is the difference at that point?
Speaker 1: True, I agree with all the different The one the
Speaker 1: one time where I'm like, wait a minute, is when
Speaker 1: it's like a hotel somebody goes to the front desk
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my god, I just have to
Speaker 1: tell you in the middle of the night, and then
Speaker 1: the personal looks to the front desk is like the
Speaker 1: man with the beard, ye white suit.
Speaker 2: That's hard. Yeah, that's hard to parse, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like that is like, is there a man?
Speaker 2: Is there Colonel Sanders hanging out in your room? Exactly?
Speaker 2: Extra crispy, I didn't hear you. Let's go.
Speaker 1: There's a documentary I just watched on Netflix. I have
Speaker 1: to look up what it was called. It's called like
Speaker 1: the Manhattan UFO something, and it's like this, lady to
Speaker 1: check it out. It's you gotta watch it. It's it's
Speaker 1: one of these things where luckily now they make it
Speaker 1: three parts.
Speaker 2: You said it seven or eight, Yeah, where it's like, dude,
Speaker 2: and they're made for such dummies too, and it's like
Speaker 2: like previously on and then it's like eight minutes, and
Speaker 2: then at the end of the episode, they're like next
Speaker 2: on and it's another eight minutes. And then you're like
Speaker 2: this so much overlap. You're telling me the same details.
Speaker 1: Over and over it exactly.
Speaker 2: But a three parter is nice. I just watched the
Speaker 2: three part on The Gray's Anatomy Writer who Lied, and
Speaker 2: that one I forgot.
Speaker 1: I stopped watching. Okay, I need to go back to that.
Speaker 2: I had a last watching. Okay, Yeah, I think you
Speaker 2: will too.
Speaker 1: Yes, because the woman. She said that she had cancer,
Speaker 1: and she also lied about a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 2: She kept lying. She kept just meeting people and stealing
Speaker 2: their stories and like just adding them to her life.
Speaker 2: She went to like PTSD camp because she said she
Speaker 2: was at the Tree of Life synagogue shooting and she wasn't.
Speaker 2: PTSD camp doesn't make sense. She went to like PTSD rehab. Okay,
Speaker 2: PTSD cam. Things aren't much better now.
Speaker 1: So this is called the Manhattan Alien Abduction and it's
Speaker 1: three parts. It could be one and a half. But
Speaker 1: it's about this woman that believes she was abducted in
Speaker 1: Manhattan out of her window.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it never happens to Manhattan nights, I know,
Speaker 2: because it is always like the stereotype or the pattern
Speaker 2: is like country bumpkin like ra.
Speaker 1: Where no one else can see it. Yeah, but this
Speaker 1: there's all these people that came out claiming that they
Speaker 1: also saw her, like floating out of her window. WHOA,
Speaker 1: which would be so creepy if all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you just see this lady just like floating out of
Speaker 1: your window in the middle of the night, like.
Speaker 2: When Luke Perry did it to Buffy and the Buffy
Speaker 2: in the movie.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I'm not a Buffy person.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I don't think, don't know, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it feels wrong, it feels but you're not missing much.
Speaker 2: The movie is a lot of fun. The show is
Speaker 2: really good too. But yeah, yeah, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: sit here, and I just it's distinct in my head
Speaker 2: of Luke Perry floating outside the window, you know, rip
Speaker 2: to a real one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gorgeous, although I.
Speaker 2: Was a Brian Austin green guy. If we're going to
Speaker 2: get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's not fight. Let's but let's give people so far,
Speaker 1: your watch list is old clips of January sixth.
Speaker 2: Yes, gotta just go to my YouTube page. I cut
Speaker 2: together some sizzle reels of of guys with fucking chin
Speaker 2: beards beating cops with a flagpole. It's it's the light,
Speaker 2: gorgeous Democracy Alive on camera.
Speaker 1: And also the Manhattan Alien Abduction, the Anatomy of a Lie,
Speaker 1: Anatomy of a Lie, and the Buffy movie. Correct Now,
Speaker 1: I agree that aliens are easier to wrap my head around,
Speaker 1: or seem more logical.
Speaker 2: Right, a little more explainable, a little more scientifically explainable.
Speaker 1: See, but we don't like science here.
Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, one of these don't do that all right. Creationism, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we believe God made dinosaurs, aliens, and humans all on
Speaker 2: the same day.
Speaker 1: Same day. Yes, and that's what we teach at my church.
Speaker 1: And I would like you to join.
Speaker 2: I am on board. I was an atheist till I
Speaker 2: found out you had a church. Now I am on board.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about cults, because I do feel
Speaker 1: very vulnerable to I'm just waiting.
Speaker 2: You know, I am one. I would say, I would
Speaker 2: like to think I could sniff out that I was
Speaker 2: being like, but I'm also the guy who like dedicated
Speaker 2: his life to improv for twenty years, so like little cults.
Speaker 2: I mean it's also people got like laid because of cults,
Speaker 2: you know, like there is an afrail to cults. I
Speaker 2: don't understand why I spent so much money and so
Speaker 2: much time performing for improv. So if I'm capable full
Speaker 2: of that, or I also did CrossFit for a while,
Speaker 2: I get caught up in fast Okay, So I think
Speaker 2: a cult could easily grab me, especially if all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's like, you know, busty women are like, yes,
Speaker 2: you're you know, once you're initie, I'm like you got it, lady,
Speaker 2: I'm on board.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is good for me to know because I
Speaker 1: might start when.
Speaker 2: Again I'll be a rosinite from the day once.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's go to ghosts though, please. So ghosts
Speaker 1: are and we talk about all this stuff on this podcast.
Speaker 1: We don't shy away from the moth Man, we don't.
Speaker 1: We get into all of it, and we do.
Speaker 2: We believe in cryptozoology here. Yes, I'm a fan. I
Speaker 2: think that's I think that's a worthwhile study.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about crypto zoology.
Speaker 2: That's like the study of cryptids, like you know, the
Speaker 2: magical monsters, the Bigfoot, the lock Ness, moth Man and
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and that that feels again like something
Speaker 2: that's possibly explainable via science or it's completely possible that
Speaker 2: there is like a Bigfoot esque individual that lives or
Speaker 2: a group of them that lives somewhere in the United
Speaker 2: States and we just don't catch them all the time.
Speaker 1: See. But that's always the thing. It's like, okay, but
Speaker 1: where is it?
Speaker 2: Right? Is it in an alien And I know I've
Speaker 2: been I've got went down a rabbit hole of people
Speaker 2: who were talking about Bigfoot and dog men sightings, dogmen
Speaker 2: is a man, and so I've been I listened to
Speaker 2: a lot of first hand accounts of these people, and
Speaker 2: they start to talk a little bit about like portals
Speaker 2: and like dimension doors and like these are interdimensional creatures
Speaker 2: and shit. So it starts to lose me. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm on board for the sci fi of it all,
Speaker 2: but it starts to lose me as like, you know,
Speaker 2: I like to think that there's like a cave where
Speaker 2: it's like I'm just a weird mutation of a beast
Speaker 2: that can talk and has hairy nipples and I live
Speaker 2: do it, you know.
Speaker 1: But see that's the only way, as crazy as the South,
Speaker 1: that is the only way for me to believe it
Speaker 1: is if it is like an alien or something that
Speaker 1: could discipline.
Speaker 2: More likely than in like an undiscovered species of like oh,
Speaker 2: yeah you've heard of the grizzly bear, but did you
Speaker 2: know about Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: Or so I always think about like these people that
Speaker 1: dedicate their life to trying to fight Bigfoot. So what
Speaker 1: if one day they just like found him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you do the fact that no one
Speaker 2: has makes it seem like we're doing something wrong, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, but if you did find him, You're like, oh hey,
Speaker 1: and then Bigfoot's like hey, like who are you? And
Speaker 1: then just like oh, my name's like Stephen or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then and then you're like the Bigfoot's like how
Speaker 1: much do you know about me? And then and then
Speaker 1: Stephen has to be like not like they want to.
Speaker 2: Act cool, like well, I mean like we've I've heard
Speaker 2: of you. I'm not like I'm not I'm not hosting
Speaker 2: a TV show called Finding big Foot.
Speaker 1: And then they become friends and then Bigfoot realizes, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this person is obsessed with me. This person
Speaker 1: has footprints of me, and that are you know, carved
Speaker 1: out of.
Speaker 2: This person just wants to measure my big foot hug
Speaker 2: so bad. Yes, Like that's the crazy thing is that,
Speaker 2: like we have not seen the petrified Bigfoot cockyin You
Speaker 2: would think there should be more evidence of the you know,
Speaker 2: but I live like by that Nature will continue to
Speaker 2: surprise us like itself. Now. I understand that Bigfoot or
Speaker 2: these scriptives could be interdimensional beings or even uh you know,
Speaker 2: mass hallucinations or some version of aliens or paranormal kind
Speaker 2: of situation, but part of me also just wants to
Speaker 2: believe that Mother Nature is capable of some stuff that
Speaker 2: we don't fully understand. Yes, yes, like that bottom of
Speaker 2: the ocean.
Speaker 1: Shit, like what's going on down there?
Speaker 2: God only knows. I'm so sessed with the detail that
Speaker 2: someone said the ocean is as undiscovered as outer space.
Speaker 1: Yes, and that is what is the percent? How much
Speaker 1: of the ocean do we know? It's so shocked, it's.
Speaker 2: So and then there's like full on like you know,
Speaker 2: the Mariana Trench or whatever it's called, and there's just
Speaker 2: like super deep parts of the ocean that we have
Speaker 2: no idea what's going on down there?
Speaker 1: And show Marianna Trench with her Mariana Trench coming to
Speaker 1: the stage. She is undiscovered. Honey, wait ocean ocean percentage
Speaker 1: that we have discovered.
Speaker 2: Please read out your search bar for it. I have to.
Speaker 1: Because i've I've I've recently heard this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like one percent or something.
Speaker 1: It says a mere five percent of the global ocean
Speaker 1: has been explored and less than ten percent mapped using
Speaker 1: modern own art technology. And that's from science dot HowStuffWorks
Speaker 1: dot com.
Speaker 2: That is ninety percent of the ocean is undiscovered. That
Speaker 2: is terrifying, absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 1: But since I really care about my listeners. I am
Speaker 1: going on a gay cruise next week, and I will
Speaker 1: I'll go down there and I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: Roz, what are you doing? You just like casually put
Speaker 2: on like cute snorkel mask and dive off.
Speaker 1: You guys, they only know five percent?
Speaker 2: Wait, I think this is like the six percent here,
Speaker 2: I know, let's dive off.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I come back up and I'm like,
Speaker 1: we now know seven percent, holding up some weird crab
Speaker 1: that no one never saw before. Cash, Well, I still
Speaker 1: need to talk to you about ghosts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please, have you seen one? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I have not ever seen a ghost. I've experienced like
Speaker 2: a recurring dream from when I was a kid that
Speaker 2: is still kind of stuck with me of an older
Speaker 2: black woman with a head wrap who kind of looked
Speaker 2: at me through windows all the time when I was sleeping,
Speaker 2: and I would have like that, like I'm stuck on
Speaker 2: the bed, I can't and she's looking at me, and
Speaker 2: she would like just and it stopped when I moved
Speaker 2: houses as a kid. I moved when I was like thirteen,
Speaker 2: So I think there was some attachment to a like
Speaker 2: a restless soul or a you know, some somebody, somebody
Speaker 2: that I used to know was living in that in
Speaker 2: that house, I think, and I think that might be
Speaker 2: my closest thing to a girl. And I am believe me,
Speaker 2: I am open minded to go. So you know, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to I'm trying to find them. I'm listening. I
Speaker 2: don't go to a lot of haunted hotels and stuff,
Speaker 2: because that might be I might psych myself up too much.
Speaker 2: I know that's like your.
Speaker 1: Forte don't get in my No.
Speaker 2: I objectively cannot say exactly please to me. And four
Speaker 2: LGB we need one straight guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is interesting. So only when you were
Speaker 1: living in this house, you would have a dream that
Speaker 1: this woman was outside of your bedroom window.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And or randomly there'd be like a porthole in
Speaker 2: the door and it wasn't like not a real thing
Speaker 2: that existed, like a hole in like a window in
Speaker 2: my door, and she would be like looking through it.
Speaker 2: And I remember specifically she would like, I keep doing
Speaker 2: this head gesture because she would like kind of slowly
Speaker 2: spin around a little, but I could only really see
Speaker 2: her head and it was like it was she had
Speaker 2: like a head wrap on or you know, like I
Speaker 2: think I would have called it a turban when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, and now I would just use the
Speaker 2: term head rap because it didn't have like that specific pattern.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to pitch a sitcom?
Speaker 2: You and this lady? Me and Mama ghost? I mean,
Speaker 2: like I'm always trying to pitch a sitcom? You hear that?
Speaker 2: Get at me? Uh, I can't even think SIcom creators. Now,
Speaker 2: Bill Lawrence.
Speaker 1: There you go, Okay, well we will we will accept
Speaker 1: it as a ghost story.
Speaker 2: Oh much appreciation.
Speaker 1: This is my new gabble that was just said to
Speaker 1: me by a listener, and I have it so that
Speaker 1: I can determine that is a ghost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I believe, I believe it might be.
Speaker 2: You know, I have friends that I've encountered dead relatives.
Speaker 2: They believe in all that stuff, and I have I
Speaker 2: have not experienced that. Ever. I might be like too
Speaker 2: spectro me or too like logical for like for me
Speaker 2: to just explain everything away to even myself, But I
Speaker 2: try to like keep my mind open to the potential
Speaker 2: for something like that.
Speaker 1: Have you had sleep prolysis since No.
Speaker 2: Not really, I don't really have. I have some bad
Speaker 2: dreams every once in a while, but like sleep is
Speaker 2: something that I'm like fucking awesome at these days. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm so good at it.
Speaker 1: I just fell asleep in an airport and I was
Speaker 1: so proud of myself.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a dream that's powerful.
Speaker 1: Like in the airport.
Speaker 2: I'm also good at staying awake too, which is like
Speaker 2: I got it. I'm very proud of myself with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not just at the age where I'm just
Speaker 2: always tired enough to be like, Okay, I can go
Speaker 2: to bed right now. It's like today was hard. I
Speaker 2: had to drive to Burnbank talk to Roz and then
Speaker 2: I drove home. Now I need to go to bed
Speaker 2: hard day.
Speaker 1: Are you superstitious?
Speaker 2: No, not not really. I will play the games of
Speaker 2: like oh one headlight, tap the thing or whatever. You know,
Speaker 2: I'll do stuff like that. I won't walk under ladders,
Speaker 2: I won't. You know.
Speaker 1: That's superstitious.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's one of those things too where it's
Speaker 2: like I don't believe per se, but I might as
Speaker 2: well play the game. Like I don't believe in church,
Speaker 2: but if I go with my mom, I'll go get
Speaker 2: the body of Christ, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: make yeah, I'm starving. It should be beef jerky. Like,
Speaker 2: if it's based on the fact that it's the body
Speaker 2: of Christ, it should be beef jerky. It should be
Speaker 2: higher protein.
Speaker 1: You know, we've had a lot of conversations about the
Speaker 1: body of Christ on this podcast. I want to know
Speaker 1: what part of Jesus it is.
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I believe they'll tell you that
Speaker 2: via consecration. It is just bread being infused with the
Speaker 2: spirit of Christ, much like you know. But I don't
Speaker 2: believe in that tabernac glass bullshit shots fired. I was
Speaker 2: raised Catholic, so I'm informed.
Speaker 1: And oh, okay, Pope francis you hear that?
Speaker 2: Come at me, Pope, please have me on your podcast. JF.
Speaker 1: You said the magical word, the magic word, which is Catholicism.
Speaker 2: Yes, that pretty much the most ghosty of the religions, right.
Speaker 1: Very much. Geehaw, you need to uh, you need to
Speaker 1: listen to me.
Speaker 3: How dare you ros?
Speaker 1: We need something that I press or.
Speaker 2: Or maybe a sound effect where it's just like yeah
Speaker 2: every time we say or like.
Speaker 1: Can we clear that? Can we clear some kind of
Speaker 1: like oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it could be done.
Speaker 1: I need a monk or something something like that, get
Speaker 1: this bitch a monk, Get me a monk, and I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about Mama's done. Thank you. So Catholicism teaches
Speaker 1: us about ghosts, I believe. I believe it can make
Speaker 1: people believe in ghosts if they're taught at from a
Speaker 1: young age.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean there's enough going on
Speaker 2: with like saints and the afterlife and praying to an
Speaker 2: invisible being that kind of can prime your pump for
Speaker 2: although I don't believe they say like it would go
Speaker 2: against Catholic doctrine. I think to be like, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: they're not in heaven, they're actually in a restless spirit
Speaker 2: living here, you know. I think that would go against it.
Speaker 2: But weirdly enough, Catholicism also primes that pump. The age
Speaker 2: from four to fucking fourteen, you're learning about spirits and
Speaker 2: saints and like God creating man and woman and a
Speaker 2: woman eating an apple and that being like high drama.
Speaker 2: Like if you're hearing all that, like then it's kind
Speaker 2: of like conspiracy theories, like if one gets you all
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, all the other ones seem within reach,
Speaker 2: you know, if all of a sudden, I'm like Look,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in ghosts, but I do believe that
Speaker 2: there's a man in the sky who has the power
Speaker 2: to choose where you spend eternity. Like it's easy. It's
Speaker 2: like it's a step further to get.
Speaker 1: To ghosts, right right, right, where do.
Speaker 2: You stand on? And I know you've worked with some
Speaker 2: of the past, but I'm just curious, like I've never
Speaker 2: worked with a medium or someone who communicates with the
Speaker 2: dead or you know, like, have you ever encountered anyone
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 1: And do you believe My overall belief on everything is
Speaker 1: I think anything is possible. I think when money is involved,
Speaker 1: like with haunted eBay dolls or psychics or yes, give
Speaker 1: me money and I'll get the ghost out of your house.
Speaker 2: Give me money and I'll tell you that your dead
Speaker 2: husband still loves you and all that shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it gets it seems to be a little predatory.
Speaker 2: It can it can get predator, much like anything anybody
Speaker 2: religion believe. And you know, religion starts out as this
Speaker 2: beautiful thing to take care of each other in the community,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, money gets involved in
Speaker 2: you have a pastor who has like a PJ and
Speaker 2: he's like got full sleeve tattoos, and it's talking.
Speaker 1: About anytime it's a documentary or anything about these these
Speaker 1: pastors that are like this water is a very special
Speaker 1: magic water and it takes away diseases.
Speaker 2: So anyone who yeah, anyone who's selling like snake oil,
Speaker 2: like for real, Like literally the Bible has stories about
Speaker 2: how what they're doing is evil like and then they're like, yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: we're pitching Christianity here, but I'm literally doing stuff that
Speaker 2: the bad guys in the Bible were doing.
Speaker 1: Don't get me started.
Speaker 2: I'm like Jesus where we can flip the tables and
Speaker 2: the money changers. Keep that in mind.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, But to answer your question about psychics, I
Speaker 1: definitely believe that it's possible. My listeners are probably sick
Speaker 1: of hearing me say this, but I'm very proud of
Speaker 1: this analogy. I compare psychic abilities to sense of humor.
Speaker 1: I think that everyone's got a vers even just a
Speaker 1: little bit, but some people can make a living at it.
Speaker 1: Some people it's just like, oh, they said a funny thing.
Speaker 1: Sometimes yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2: But someone can have like they have light psychic ability,
Speaker 2: but they're a manager at Walmart. They don't have to,
Speaker 2: like they are super hysterically funny and they are an
Speaker 2: English teacher, you know, right, right.
Speaker 1: But I also think when you start doing, like when
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I'm going to be a comedian or
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a psychic, like, you definitely can bomb.
Speaker 1: You definitely can have better days than other days. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you're just tapped in right. Sometimes you're working with someone
Speaker 1: that you have better chemistry with. So I just think that,
Speaker 1: like that's how it is with psychics. I try to
Speaker 1: give them the benefit of the doubt that like the
Speaker 1: ones that really can do, because I've seen people do
Speaker 1: incredible things as a psychic, Like I've been there when
Speaker 1: they've done the like going up to a stranger in
Speaker 1: a deli and be like, hey, I got a message,
Speaker 1: and then it's.
Speaker 2: Just like that's fucking wild. Yeah see I've seen that.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, do that to me, and then
Speaker 1: they're like.
Speaker 2: Right, and then you can't get that first hand. Ex,
Speaker 2: yeah you said something in there. You just like, I
Speaker 2: think anything is possible, and I think I think that
Speaker 2: would be where I'm coming from too. I believe that
Speaker 2: people have psychic powers because again that goes back to
Speaker 2: my original thesis of like, we're not positive what the
Speaker 2: brain is capable of, you know, right, and that would
Speaker 2: be that exactly?
Speaker 1: Or is it beyond the brain?
Speaker 2: Welcome back to beyond the brain?
Speaker 1: Can I show you a haunted doll? Of it's time
Speaker 1: for the dolls are living? You just gone to the
Speaker 1: desk and full you know, I could. I recently got
Speaker 1: one in my possession, but that doll is not here.
Speaker 1: It is locked away in a box.
Speaker 2: But you have you own an or possess a.
Speaker 1: Hounted possess a doll that is possessed.
Speaker 2: So that's see. I don't know if I fully believe it,
Speaker 2: but I definitely would not spit into the wind with
Speaker 2: being like, well, fill my house with haunted dolls and
Speaker 2: I'll believe It's a vibe.
Speaker 1: It's always been my theory or whatever is like, I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe in it, but I'm not taking my chances.
Speaker 2: Same same, I feel that you know.
Speaker 1: What, jeeha, I just realized I think I have a
Speaker 1: better one. Can I just real quick said, is that
Speaker 1: really gonna mess you up? No mess me up?
Speaker 3: Just email it to me. It's just gonna take a minute.
Speaker 3: You'll just have to stand back.
Speaker 2: It won't mess up, but it will take a minute.
Speaker 1: So we're cutting. All is pissed and I want to
Speaker 1: give you my notes. You have to keep this in
Speaker 1: my god, so, oh my god, anyone listening. Jiha just
Speaker 1: did that thing where she takes like a finger and
Speaker 1: goes across the throat. Listen to her.
Speaker 2: Boys.
Speaker 1: It's insane how she can sound nice, but she's really I.
Speaker 2: Can't even read what she but she has a piece
Speaker 2: of paper that says, shut the fuck up and move on.
Speaker 2: She's holding it up, but she's okay.
Speaker 1: You know what, before we do this to Jiha, I
Speaker 1: want to ask you what you would prefer. Would you
Speaker 1: prefer a gay man trapped in a doll or a
Speaker 1: gorilla toy that is a sex demon?
Speaker 2: Ay? Wait? What am I choosing for it? One of them?
Speaker 2: I get to lead, No, no, just for us to
Speaker 2: talk about. They both sound amazing. But I think you
Speaker 2: had me a gorilla sex demon. Okay, well, which I
Speaker 2: think is the name of my first.
Speaker 1: That Giha's gonna be pissed off because now I have
Speaker 1: to send this to Giha.
Speaker 3: I'll just look it up on eBay.
Speaker 1: I had the gay man trapped in the thing. But
Speaker 1: I had a feeling, because I'm a little psychic, that
Speaker 1: you wanted the gorilla.
Speaker 3: I can't believe what I just typed into this search bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here now on a watch list for sure
Speaker 2: haunted doll active demon.
Speaker 1: Whoa, it says haunted doll active demon sexual suck ubus
Speaker 1: shape shifter item, gorilla booty cheeks.
Speaker 2: And it looks just like a toy with someone put
Speaker 2: red ink around the gorilla's eyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely red just smeared over a regular old gorilla.
Speaker 2: That is very unscary. I will say, well, just wait
Speaker 2: till you read it.
Speaker 1: So these all come with bios. This one is currently
Speaker 1: going for forty three dollars and ninety nine cents.
Speaker 2: Not bad.
Speaker 1: This is one of the ones. You know. I'm on
Speaker 1: to some of these sellers because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that sell like this is their job. They sell.
Speaker 2: They just buy dolls at thrift stores. Let me write,
Speaker 2: let me write a backstory. I've been working on this
Speaker 2: gorilla sex demon idea. It's like, oh, okay, yeah, well
Speaker 2: we got a gorilla toy. Let's slap some red paint
Speaker 2: on its eyes and watches two comedians in Los Angeles
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 1: So that's why I am on to some of these
Speaker 1: people where I'm like, you just want to be featured
Speaker 1: on this show because these bios are too good.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also like, okay, so you have seven different
Speaker 2: dolls for sale on your like you live in a
Speaker 2: house with seven haunted dolls waiting to try to sell them.
Speaker 1: But you know some people, Okay, I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1: My friends Greg and Dana Newkirk shout out. They run
Speaker 1: a haunted museum and it just haunted items and a
Speaker 1: lot of what they have, people send it to them
Speaker 1: because they know they're the people.
Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I'll give these people the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt.
Speaker 2: Now, are you trying to pitch me a sitcom? Because
Speaker 2: I think Haunted Museum couple is a sile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, so like I could see maybe it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know Janie, she loves selling those haunted dolls. Here's
Speaker 1: a great one for her. This one is haunted by
Speaker 1: a sex demon and a gorilla.
Speaker 2: That's kind of like, you know, in like when you
Speaker 2: meet someone and learn some like for example, when I've
Speaker 2: been with my wife now for like twenty ish years.
Speaker 1: And are you serious?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's twenty two at this point. Uh.
Speaker 2: And my mom she used to be into owls in
Speaker 2: like the mid Auts, and my mom would buy her
Speaker 2: like an owl. But now twenty years later, my mom's
Speaker 2: still like, Tiffany, you like owl stuff, right, And it's
Speaker 2: like she's like seeking out owl shit, and we're like,
Speaker 2: we don't even have like places for all these fucking owls,
Speaker 2: and so it's become like this kind of joke. And
Speaker 2: then it's all a sudden you're like, oh, the New
Speaker 2: Kirks they love haunted dolls, and they're like, Okay, we
Speaker 2: actually are full of awe.
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing. You get the doll, but then
Speaker 1: you also get what's on the inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it could be a gay man or a
Speaker 2: sex demon.
Speaker 1: So let me read you about this one please. This
Speaker 1: one's name is Salaysia. It says me, Salaysia. She is
Speaker 1: something special. She's exciting, big, strong and dirty.
Speaker 2: Why am I hard right now?
Speaker 1: A beautiful vessel from the underworld ready to serve you
Speaker 1: and possess you. And if we can get some like
Speaker 1: uh like kind of like bou Chicka wow, wow music
Speaker 1: under this that would be great. Thank you. Salaysia is
Speaker 1: so sexy, clever, and so damn naughty. She loves to
Speaker 1: laugh and cheer. Oh my god, I cannot keep reading this.
Speaker 1: This is this is worse than I thought it was.
Speaker 1: She loves to laugh and cheer. I'm omitting part of
Speaker 1: this when you play with her fat gorilla booty cheeks.
Speaker 1: She loves all positions, especially doggy style. This is insane.
Speaker 2: Trying to convey to an ape what doggy style is
Speaker 2: is like, you're already doing ape style. Do you need
Speaker 2: to make it doggy as well? That complicated?
Speaker 1: It's too many specieses. This is on the next season
Speaker 1: a Chimp Crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was just about to say, speaking
Speaker 2: of like documentaries that are one hour or too long.
Speaker 2: Although I was upset at that list, put it all there.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get wet. Can you reach out to
Speaker 1: the lady from Chimp Crazy?
Speaker 2: Tanya Headdacks. I feel like you do would get along
Speaker 2: so well. I don't hope will take offense, but I
Speaker 2: think no, I agree, you would get a lot.
Speaker 1: Weir absolutely now it don't actually do that, geha, I
Speaker 1: actually don't want the competition, so anyway, but here's.
Speaker 2: What you play with the dolls booty cheeks, and then
Speaker 2: Salasia gets all fucking worked up.
Speaker 1: I think usually how this goes.
Speaker 2: Usually usually with gorilla sex demons.
Speaker 1: And I am an expert on this. There is a
Speaker 1: spirit inside now. It says here she will change into
Speaker 1: a gorgeous female with long black hair, big beautiful breasts
Speaker 1: and eyes and red lips. Be careful and do not
Speaker 1: let her consume you, for you are its master. When
Speaker 1: she changes into this animalistic female, she needs to be
Speaker 1: shown some sort of control. This is insane.
Speaker 2: I buy a gorilla doll, I rub its butt cheeks,
Speaker 2: it turns into a giant, statuesque brunette, and then I'm
Speaker 2: not supposed to let it consume me. Rip Gaberis. I
Speaker 2: am toast like Seleasia, I'm yours baby. Look at those
Speaker 2: booty cheeks. I wouldn't even think of a gorilla as
Speaker 2: having cheeks. Really, Oh that is That was one of
Speaker 2: the big takeaways. That was one of the big takeaways
Speaker 2: from Chimp Crazy is that some of these chimps asses
Speaker 2: are horrifying to look at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I do recall that.
Speaker 2: A friend of mine said after watching Chimp Crazy, He's like,
Speaker 2: that's when I knew Trump could win the presidency because
Speaker 2: it's like I live in a bubble. America is different
Speaker 2: than I thought.
Speaker 1: It's very different, and it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of eye opening. When you watch it, you're like, Okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: this this is a different country than I thought.
Speaker 1: We lived in absolutely And that's the thing about this
Speaker 1: haunted doll world. You know, I tried to expose the
Speaker 1: world to this underworld, but there's a lot of these.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's monkey trade in this country I didn't
Speaker 1: know about.
Speaker 2: And now we're finding the Venn diagram smashed together in Salasia,
Speaker 2: the possessed sex demon inside of a gorilla toy. This
Speaker 2: looks like a fucking McDonald's happy Meal toy. Then you're like,
Speaker 2: you take it home and you're like, hey, I picked
Speaker 2: this up for you, son. Hey how come you keep
Speaker 2: taking that gorilla doll into the shower with you? My
Speaker 2: gorilla doll?
Speaker 1: It's you know, I don't feel comfortable reading all of this,
Speaker 1: but I think that people.
Speaker 2: Get to touch nasty. This might be a perfect thing
Speaker 2: to throw in the show notes and then people can like,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, yeah, I follow up on my own.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure by the time, you know, I assume
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna snatch this right up, so it might not
Speaker 1: still be up.
Speaker 2: I'm on my phone buying it right now. I will
Speaker 2: get this before January sixth, where anyone else hears about
Speaker 2: this shit. I need Sleasia in my life. Life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: please turn into please don't just be a gorilla. Just
Speaker 2: my luck. A gorilla rips my cock off, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: throw your turning into a lady. I am a female gorilla. Bitch.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I will say. The word sperm is used.
Speaker 2: Shit, one of the hottest words.
Speaker 1: This insane. As I'm looking at this.
Speaker 2: This is already an insane conceit on step one, and
Speaker 2: then they still managed to surprise you.
Speaker 1: I need to put a hat on a hat, but
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 2: I did not need to put a sperm in a Salasia.
Speaker 1: There's sperm, there's I'm sorry, I'm just quoting piss drinking there's.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're losing me a little here, Soleasia. This might
Speaker 2: be a I'm not that in look a sex demon
Speaker 2: killing me during a consensual Yeah, that one, but I'm
Speaker 2: not about that. Wait, am I drinking?
Speaker 1: Her?
Speaker 2: Pis or is she's drinking mine. You know what? Keep reading?
Speaker 2: I need to know now.
Speaker 1: It would be yours.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yes, that's got a little she likes. I'm
Speaker 2: old school, I'm a little I'm a little bit of
Speaker 2: a traditionalist. Yeah, I'm gonna fuck a gorilla doll come
Speaker 2: to life as a sex team. And I don't think
Speaker 2: I need to be drinking piss or having her drink
Speaker 2: my piss exactly, Yes, a definition of a hat on hat.
Speaker 2: I'm like, isn't this enough? Lady? Isn't this enough? Celicia?
Speaker 2: Now you also need my piss? I mean.
Speaker 1: That's why that she got the name Salatia.
Speaker 2: She's insolatiable.
Speaker 1: You're killing me. So it says you pet her and
Speaker 1: spank her fat ass, And it's a with two dollars size.
Speaker 2: If you say fat ass in reference to a gorilla,
Speaker 2: you're already weird. If you say in reference to a toy,
Speaker 2: that is crazy.
Speaker 1: But this is it's not crazy because it's not They're
Speaker 1: not talking about slapping the ass of a toy, because
Speaker 1: that would be insane. But that's talking about slapping the
Speaker 1: ass of a demon that comes out of the toy.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So Salata is stacked with cheeks, got it.
Speaker 2: Her cheek game is strong, exactly.
Speaker 1: This isn't weird.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're right, I apologize. I'm not here to yuck
Speaker 2: anyone's young.
Speaker 1: She also has a sexy cheer outfit.
Speaker 2: This is just some old pervert who's like, uh yes,
Speaker 2: sperm drinking, piss yeah, cheerleader outfit. It's like it's starting
Speaker 2: to be like nineties porn category. It's like, and Selasia
Speaker 2: is also a sexy nurse and you and she's your
Speaker 2: step mom exactly, she's your stepsister, and she has to
Speaker 2: sleep in your bed tonight, and she forgot her underwear,
Speaker 2: and she's thirsty, and all she has is a glass
Speaker 2: of your piss.
Speaker 1: It says, light a white candle, burn incense, and give
Speaker 1: a small present to welcome her into your home. And
Speaker 1: then it says at the very end, this vessel is uncleansed.
Speaker 2: I'd say, yeah, waivers, you're not fucking a sex teaming upstairs,
Speaker 2: are you? Jesus Christ? In reeks of incense and pissed
Speaker 2: down here?
Speaker 1: I must just a bit take.
Speaker 2: This is such a weird place to be in because
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm just horny enough and just heterosexuality is
Speaker 2: a cage, and I'm just I'm just enough to be like,
Speaker 2: what does salisia look like?
Speaker 1: Wow? For forty ninety nine cents.
Speaker 2: And the cost of a white candle and incense.
Speaker 1: You gotta include that. Sorry, doesn't come.
Speaker 2: With handling candle incense.
Speaker 1: She doesn't come with that stuff.
Speaker 2: And you know you don't get the full salatia kit
Speaker 2: in the mail.
Speaker 1: No, no, you gotta get it all separate. But it
Speaker 1: always says with these eBay requires that I add the
Speaker 1: policy on purchasing paranormal and metaphysical objects. It forbids the
Speaker 1: sale of intangible objects like spirits, entities, luck, magic. Therefore,
Speaker 1: I am only selling this as a doll.
Speaker 2: Imagine like the when the old people who invented eBay
Speaker 2: back in like the late night you know, mid odds
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, so people could sell stuff that they
Speaker 2: had and maybe it's collectibles. And it's like, hey, boss,
Speaker 2: what do we want to do about like spirits and
Speaker 2: entities and stuff where we gonna allow people to sell
Speaker 2: intangible objects? And it's like, I don't know, that seems
Speaker 2: like a litigious kind of category. Let's just say no spirits,
Speaker 2: no intangibles. And like someone's like when when will this
Speaker 2: come in handy boom here we are dealing with it.
Speaker 1: What they were probably like, No, we're not gonna put
Speaker 1: that because that's in set.
Speaker 2: We're not putting that. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: they had to because someone's like, I'd like to return
Speaker 2: my guerrilla doll and never turned into a sucubus who
Speaker 2: drained me of piss, and.
Speaker 1: Come, yeah, I would be pretty pissed off if that's
Speaker 1: what happened.
Speaker 2: Wait all I can think about right now, Roz, And
Speaker 2: please don't take this the wrong ways. You need to
Speaker 2: sell haunted dolls off yourself to your listeners.
Speaker 1: I think about this all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not saying that because of all
Speaker 2: the sperm and and all that, all the sex stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that for that reason. I'm saying your
Speaker 2: your listeners should be purchasing a haunted ros doll for
Speaker 2: their house and you just put some like a little
Speaker 2: pre recorded voice stuff in there and shit and like
Speaker 2: you know, just startle like have it play at random
Speaker 2: times motion detected.
Speaker 1: Don't I should just go to build a bear workshop
Speaker 1: and just record the little messages, yes, and then just
Speaker 1: sell them that way, is that still a thing?
Speaker 2: Build a Best it's gotta be if American Girls still exists.
Speaker 2: I bet build a Bear still exists.
Speaker 1: Can I play some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: It's time for ev or evase. EVP stands for Electronic
Speaker 1: voice phenomenal.
Speaker 2: This is like voices that are recorded but not heard
Speaker 2: by the natural year right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this was posted by Paranormal Proof official.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, so it's real. Next one.
Speaker 1: That is what they've named their YouTube channel. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the location is, but they captured this voice,
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me what you hear
Speaker 1: the ghost.
Speaker 2: Saying I need I think I need another time.
Speaker 1: Don't you worry?
Speaker 2: I got it is tip included.
Speaker 1: That is not a Paranormal Proof official.
Speaker 2: Thought, Oh, what do they think he's saying? Here's an A, B,
Speaker 2: C D.
Speaker 1: Did they think it was A, Hey i'm walking here.
Speaker 1: B they don't want that, C it won't work? Or
Speaker 1: D Hey wait what all right?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go with B.
Speaker 1: They don't want that. I mean it does sound a
Speaker 1: lot like that. They believe it was C it won't work.
Speaker 2: I mean, they might have more like knowing the context
Speaker 2: might make more sense too, because if they're like watching
Speaker 2: Drugstore Cowboy, then we know him saying I'm walking here
Speaker 2: is probably the ghost, Like, this is my favorite part
Speaker 2: coming up.
Speaker 1: They were looking I think that they pulled out a
Speaker 1: crystal and then the ghost said that won't work.
Speaker 2: Put it away, bitch, it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1: You need something stronger for me.
Speaker 2: Pulled out crystal, starts looking crystal. That won't work on me.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so that was that. Okay, here's the next one.
Speaker 1: We've got two of them. This was posted by Ghostly
Speaker 1: Whispers Ghostly Whispers Paranormal, and it's at a place called
Speaker 1: Old Lions Park. Now, I was googling because I'm like,
Speaker 1: where's Old Lions Parks right? Well, I googled Old Lions
Speaker 1: Park Haunted and it led me to this blog kind
Speaker 1: of website called thet channel dot com and it's talking
Speaker 1: about this place that basically, there's like an urban legend
Speaker 1: that in the late seventies a child says here a
Speaker 1: child was playing on a set of swings in Lions Park,
Speaker 1: which is in Liz Moore, I think this is in
Speaker 1: Australia and fell off that the kid off and the
Speaker 1: swing came back and hit the child, and that was
Speaker 1: it for the child. And now it's haunted.
Speaker 2: Oh might it's a haunted mite. It's a bit haunted now,
Speaker 2: ain't it.
Speaker 1: But people still hear screams, laughing children, you know, all
Speaker 1: this kind of spooky stuff. It's like the haunted woods
Speaker 1: of this area.
Speaker 2: I will say, ever since the TV show Are You
Speaker 2: Afraid of the Dark?
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon Haunted, its benefically approve about the midsnight Society. I
Speaker 1: call this story the Lion Park.
Speaker 2: In the credits, they have the swing that is just swinging,
Speaker 2: and that is that is a haunting image. It's just
Speaker 2: a swing swing night. And now you're telling me the
Speaker 2: swing killed the kid.
Speaker 1: Oh well, But here's the fun thing about this website,
Speaker 1: this blog. It must be a popular blog because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of comments that people had shared their stories
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, and once stood out to.
Speaker 1: Me so a user named Peter wrote, the old Lions
Speaker 1: Park used to be a gay beat. When one time
Speaker 1: at night I was with a guy. We saw someone
Speaker 1: watching us in the scrub less than three feet away.
Speaker 1: It was a bright moonlight night. The person stood there strangely,
Speaker 1: slightly slender wearing a cameo top in jeans. We indicated
Speaker 1: for him to join us. He made no sound either
Speaker 1: from the dry leaves and sticks, which snap if you
Speaker 1: slightly moved. Me and my companion looked for a moment
Speaker 1: at each other and then back again at the other guy,
Speaker 1: and he completely vanished with no sound. It would have
Speaker 1: been impossible that that could happen due to the sound
Speaker 1: and visibility. We both felt a strange chill in the air.
Speaker 1: We realized what happened and that it could have only
Speaker 1: been a ghost which spoiled the mood, and we couldn't
Speaker 1: leave quicker.
Speaker 2: A ghost spoiled the moon quicker than like a creep
Speaker 2: watching them gay guys rule, like a dude watching them,
Speaker 2: like hey, come on, come.
Speaker 1: On over, gay guys rule. And then I started reading
Speaker 1: more and more comments, and it was like, yeah, this place,
Speaker 1: like too many people were having sex of this park.
Speaker 2: So that's really funny the idea of a haunted park.
Speaker 2: But it's also a cruising site, and so then you're
Speaker 2: like a like a closed minded ghost from like the
Speaker 2: early twentieth century. It was like get these puffas addy,
Speaker 2: and then like there they have to watch guys just
Speaker 2: fu fuck all day long and night. Yeah, like boo,
Speaker 2: and they're like do you want to join? He's like,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to steal you. Get over Are you handsome
Speaker 2: as ghosts through a top of the bottom?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're killing me to that.
Speaker 2: That is such a funny idea. I'll haunt this park
Speaker 2: for my life and just every night has to watch dudes. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, well maybe tonight I'll be able to scare someone.
Speaker 1: Get over here you so anyway? Oh sorry, I forgot
Speaker 1: what we were doing here. We're doing EVPs, so or
Speaker 1: EV please thank you? So this was a ev P
Speaker 1: that I think was taken at that park called old
Speaker 1: Ian's Park. Anyway, what oh fark.
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm about to bush? Are you on prep? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Let's EV please.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 2: It's someone inhaling a pauper. It is a scary noise.
Speaker 2: That is like if I heard that noise, I'd be scared.
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a it's hot out here? B?
Speaker 1: How do you know? C?
Speaker 2: Hurry up.
Speaker 1: Or d I can't even.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't hear many words in there, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna hurry up. Seems like something.
Speaker 1: They believe it was b How do you know?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Maybe so maybe it was like the gay guys saw
Speaker 1: the ghosts and they're like, oh, that's just a ghost,
Speaker 1: and he's like, how do you.
Speaker 2: Know that ghost isn't gay? How do you wink? I've
Speaker 2: been around for millennia. You think I haven't eaten an
Speaker 2: ass or two?
Speaker 1: Okay, last thing hit me. I'm just gonna list like
Speaker 1: paranormal things, and I'm curious if you have any thought.
Speaker 2: That's a great ring. By the way, I want to
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: Isn't it great? You know I got it? Wacko on Sunset.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was like in Texas, that's pronounced yeah.
Speaker 1: Wacko on Sunset is my favorite store in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I'll check it out. It looks that's cool as shit.
Speaker 1: It's just like Evil Eye. Anyone listening, but it's like
Speaker 1: a plastic anyway. Okay, just tell me what you think
Speaker 1: about these things?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Ouiji boards.
Speaker 2: I I can't believe a board game that is sold
Speaker 2: at Toys r US is scary, but it is. We
Speaker 2: have one. We have a vintage one in our We're
Speaker 2: not allowed to use. It's only for it's only for decoration.
Speaker 1: Where'd you get it?
Speaker 2: My wife tracked it down, like bought a vintage one.
Speaker 2: It was like from nineteen seventy something and eBay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess at night it comes the life that sucks
Speaker 2: me off. But otherwise no, it's it's terrifying. We don't
Speaker 2: we're not allowed to play with him, but it's just
Speaker 2: out for in the in the October spooky season. D
Speaker 2: r I n K P I S.
Speaker 1: What do you think of the month man?
Speaker 2: I am hoped to meet him someday, asking what it
Speaker 2: was like to work with Richard.
Speaker 1: Gear Yeah, ask him the story is it's true, it
Speaker 1: was a haunted Gerbil doll. What do you think of
Speaker 1: past lives?
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's that's a that's an interesting one. I it
Speaker 2: requires a belief in, like a whole new understanding of
Speaker 2: how the afterlife and all that works. But it's hard,
Speaker 2: it's hard to completely rule that out. But that one's
Speaker 2: kind of exciting that spiritually we will continue on. But
Speaker 2: if I don't remember any of my past lives when
Speaker 2: I do my next life, will I remember?
Speaker 1: What's the point?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1: So do you think that you've lived past lives?
Speaker 2: I think so it's possible you know, people say stuff
Speaker 2: like when they have like a specific affinity it or
Speaker 2: something like, you know, my wife really likes like a
Speaker 2: certain era of design and stuff. And she believes that's
Speaker 2: partially because here, Like she'll like do the math and
Speaker 2: she's like, imagine if I was born here and then
Speaker 2: I would have died at this age and then that
Speaker 2: I was alive for this, And I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean maybe.
Speaker 1: It makes sense what era is she into.
Speaker 2: She's into like the roaring roaring twenties and then like
Speaker 2: also to jump back to like the Victorian like she's
Speaker 2: really and for me, I'm like, yeah, maybe because I
Speaker 2: have such an affinity for the ocean that I don't like,
Speaker 2: but because my wife is like, maybe you were someone
Speaker 2: and I'm like, but man, yeah, but I like I
Speaker 2: grew up on Long Island, like a few miles from
Speaker 2: the beach. It's like it's probably nurture more than it
Speaker 2: is nature at that point of like Long Island.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, there's so much iconic paranormal stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have we have Mount Misery, which is.
Speaker 1: Our Wait, I don't know that one. I was going
Speaker 1: to say, Amnyville horror.
Speaker 2: We got Amnyvill horror. We got the Montalk Monster. We
Speaker 2: have Theresakaputosa on the Long Island medium. They call me
Speaker 2: the Long Island double XL.
Speaker 1: What what is the Mount Mount Misery.
Speaker 2: It's like a road that goes up into the woods
Speaker 2: in Long Island, on Long Island, and everyone believes that
Speaker 2: there's crazy stuff. Yeah, she's up there bashing Jamie Jimmy
Speaker 2: Conn's ankles with a sledgehammer. Me. No, It's this like
Speaker 2: road that goes to almost nowhere and everyone has had
Speaker 2: some like they say that there's a church there, and
Speaker 2: people there is a church there, and then people believe
Speaker 2: that they've seen the cross upside down and they've seen
Speaker 2: people in robes. This is like stuff you hear as legend.
Speaker 2: You don't know what's real. But I will say my
Speaker 2: one experience with Mount Misery was we drove up in
Speaker 2: my friend my friend got this is tie everything we've
Speaker 2: talked about together. My friends got his first car. He
Speaker 2: bought it off his mom's psychic for fifty dollars. It
Speaker 2: was in nineteen seventy five. Ford Ltd. Which is about
Speaker 2: the length of a cruise ship. It's enormous and it
Speaker 2: sits three in the front three in the back, me, him,
Speaker 2: another buddy, and two girls were all going out. We
Speaker 2: made stolen cocktails and we smoked some weed and we
Speaker 2: got in this car and we're going to drive up
Speaker 2: to Mount Misery and the girls are like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, yeah, we should do. It'd be totally cool.
Speaker 2: And we start driving up and the road keeps getting
Speaker 2: narrow and narrowing a little more overgrown with brush, and
Speaker 2: then there's headlights behind us, and my buddy who's driving,
Speaker 2: is like freaking out a little bit. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: these guys are out my fucking ass. I just want
Speaker 2: to drive slow, you know. And we're seventeen, so we're
Speaker 2: like eighteen, we just got cars. And he's like, oh fuck,
Speaker 2: you know, and this guy's and I'm like, okay, it's
Speaker 2: all right, it's a right. So we keep driving and
Speaker 2: we get to just a random like dead end, you know,
Speaker 2: where like there's just like a yellow diamond sign with
Speaker 2: nothing on it and like a guardrail, and we're like, shit,
Speaker 2: we're in the middle of the woods. We got to
Speaker 2: turn around, but his car is so big. He's like, shit,
Speaker 2: these guys behind me are gonna flip out. So their
Speaker 2: headlights are like beaming on us. He starts doing like
Speaker 2: a twenty eight point turn, and then the headlights turn
Speaker 2: off and we're like, oh okay, like thank you. You
Speaker 2: can tell you're blasting us. And then when we fully
Speaker 2: turn around and drive out, we never encounter that car,
Speaker 2: and it was pretty scary and like we got we
Speaker 2: got really creeped out. Now, could that a car have
Speaker 2: just shut its lights off, turned around or driven backwards
Speaker 2: out of it? Completely possible, But we unpacked it for
Speaker 2: like an hour afterwards, and we're like, something weird happened
Speaker 2: up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe you save that till the end.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I've finished.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it didn't come up earlier. I guess
Speaker 2: I didn't. I consider that more in the realm of
Speaker 2: urban legends and stuff like that, I get.
Speaker 1: I like urban legends.
Speaker 2: Shit, girl, I'm sorry. Yeah, it was a fucking ride.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I think next time I
Speaker 2: go home to visit, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: head up.
Speaker 1: There and come back to report.
Speaker 2: I will. I'll report back.
Speaker 1: Have you been to the Amneyville house.
Speaker 2: We've driven past it, We've never like tried to get
Speaker 2: in there. There's also like an empty uh insane asylum
Speaker 2: on Long Island too, that's supposed to be haunted that
Speaker 2: like squatters were living in for years after and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, Long Island has a lot of that.
Speaker 2: It's proximity to New York City, and it's like aged,
Speaker 2: like it's been around for a long time. And probably
Speaker 2: the atrocities that were visited upon the native and indigenous
Speaker 2: populations over you know, centuries, this probably doesn't help the vibes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and now Long Island is terrifying for a number of
Speaker 2: different reasons. As today is January sixth, te.
Speaker 1: Tying it all together, well, gabras Ras, I'm so sad
Speaker 1: we can't use any of this. Tell people where they
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Speaker 2: I'm at gabras on all social media. I have a
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Speaker 2: In your home, asking me to drink piss. My podcast
Speaker 2: High and Mighty is just a chat show with other
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Speaker 2: do you Do that with? My friends Ben Rogers and
Speaker 2: Ryan Stanger. They're two very funny UCB comedian guys podcaster. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a good time.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for joining me, Thank.
Speaker 2: You for having me. What a treat. I got to
Speaker 2: get home and get on eBay asas.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to John Gabris. I was sweating
Speaker 1: profusely from the laughter during that. Holy shit, anyway, that
Speaker 1: was really fun and dirty, naughty. Hey, thank you so
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Speaker 1: the things where to find me, the things I got
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Speaker 1: designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is
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Speaker 1: spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac,
Speaker 1: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the
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