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Speaker 1: So Urban Myers coming, Nick Nick Nick Wright and I talked,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I don't think you want twenty

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Speaker 1: seven teams in your league tanking, but I think Mark

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Speaker 1: Cuban's point is one that we should listen to. I

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Speaker 1: just for the record, I just saw the NBA, was

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Speaker 1: it last year sign this massive deal with Amazon, ESPN

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Speaker 1: and NBC. It's like seventy five billion dollars. Well, there

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Speaker 1: was tanking for years. There's been tanking for thirty years,

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Speaker 1: and they still got their money. I just watched the

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Speaker 1: All Star Game ratings. They were the highest in like

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. And there's been tanking. I mean, NBC, the

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Speaker 1: NBA got their money, the NBA got their ratings. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Saturday Night Dunk contest has kind of played out,

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Speaker 1: but you know, it lasted for a while. So what

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Speaker 1: is the tanking really doing to the NBA. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: anti sports. Again, it doesn't seem to be hurting the

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Speaker 1: bottom line. I mean, the ratings are up and they

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Speaker 1: got their money, and nobody in San Antonio's complaining about Wimby.

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Speaker 1: The bigger issue is, as Mark Cuban points out, as

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Speaker 1: all these aprons make it impossible to transactionally quickly rebuild

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Speaker 1: your team.

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Speaker 3: You can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 1: So I said this yesterday multiple times with John when

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Speaker 1: John went there and Jmack wasn't. I said multiple times

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Speaker 1: the NBA needs to do more. NFL and Baseball give

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Speaker 1: owners and gms multiple routes to rebuild. The current NBA

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Speaker 1: model is draft and develop.

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Speaker 3: Hope your fans are patient.

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Speaker 1: And so here's Nick right last hour on the tanking

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Speaker 1: problem in the league.

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Speaker 4: I don't blame individual teams for doing what is logically

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Speaker 4: coherent to the path. I blame the league massively for

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Speaker 4: allowing these incentives to exist. I am fine with teams

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Speaker 4: making roster decisions in the offseason or at the deadline

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Speaker 4: that say we are looking forward to years down the road,

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Speaker 4: we are going to trade away older or better players

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Speaker 4: for draft picks. That's fine. What I am not fine

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Speaker 4: with is teams actively once you have the roster that

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Speaker 4: you have, not trying to win games, or teams sitting

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Speaker 4: healthy guys. That is flatly bad for business.

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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban disagrees. All right, Urban Myers around the Corner.

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Speaker 1: Three national championships eighty three and nine at Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: As a college football coach and golfing.

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Speaker 1: Having a really good offseason golfing with Big Shop In fact,

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban last week Urban Meyer is now joining us

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Speaker 1: live on the show How's It? By the way, how's

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban doing? I like Nick Nicks has a good sense.

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Speaker 5: Hum.

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Speaker 1: What's it like to golf with Saban? Is he kicking

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Speaker 3: No, he's actually really good.

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Speaker 5: I played with him many times, and you know, even

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Speaker 5: told me he says he's lost about fifteen yards off

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Speaker 3: But he's a he played golf.

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Speaker 5: You can tell he played golf as a kid, as

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Speaker 3: So yeah, he's a good golfer. Good. So I know

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Speaker 3: this freaks people out.

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Speaker 1: But when I saw a story last week in the

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Speaker 1: twenty four teams, everybody freaks out. And I said, well,

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Speaker 1: there's one thing I like about it. It makes the

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Speaker 1: of it. When you hear twenty four team playoff, do

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I think that's too many games, too many teams.

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Speaker 5: at twelve. I said, there's really not twelve teams that

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Speaker 5: I still think twenty four is probably too much because

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Speaker 5: I think one thing we better look at is this

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Speaker 5: twenty fifth of January and you just keep adding games,

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Speaker 5: I think that's a little bit too many games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the magic number maybe sixteen.

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Speaker 3: But again I'm I agree.

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Speaker 1: I was like you. I used to argue, I've never

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Speaker 1: heard of a fifth team being worthy of a national championship.

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Speaker 1: But with a transfer portal now, and the thing about

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Speaker 1: the transfer portal urban is that it takes longer to

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Speaker 1: build chemistry. So I mean, we watched Mendoza in the

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Speaker 1: first month. In the last month, he was a different quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and we watched Miami mid season to the end of

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Speaker 1: the season. That's a totally different team. So the nil

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Speaker 1: and transfer portal is the same thing. With the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. Vrabel goes there, buys a bunch of new players.

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Speaker 1: They're lousy in September, They're in a super Bowl in February.

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Speaker 1: So college football teams, it's not like you always kind

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Speaker 1: It's like college basketball and you don't know what the

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Speaker 1: hell you have by mid October. So I argue to

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Speaker 1: who the best team is, you don't really know who

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Speaker 1: it is now right, No, there.

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Speaker 3: Was a day call and you could say the best fall.

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Speaker 5: I used to call him they lead eight because I'd

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Speaker 5: eight was a lot And think about last year you

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Speaker 5: certainly come up with a scenario where sixteen legitimate teams

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Speaker 1: So I'm reading a NFL analyst yesterday and he said, listen,

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Speaker 1: there's a red flag on Mendoza. He and Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: have the same college numbers. They hold the ball too long,

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Speaker 1: they take too many negative plays. And so I went

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Speaker 1: you watch Mendoza, you're just your initial instincts. He's not

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Speaker 1: your player. But if you were looking at tape of him,

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Speaker 1: like Kurt Signetti did it, cal do you think those

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Speaker 1: are legitimate criticisms in that he kind of holds onto it,

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Speaker 1: he takes too many negative plays, He's too willing to

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Speaker 1: sit in the pocket and get blistered, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: everybody loves the courage of that. It's not recommended in

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Speaker 1: pro football. To you, is a red flag with Mendoza?

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Speaker 3: Does he have one?

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Speaker 5: I get asked about a lot of people, and I

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Speaker 5: know Mendoza. I feel like he is our quarterback because

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Speaker 3: We covered him on Big Noon. We're there. I got

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Speaker 5: Tom McShay and I both said this guy needs to

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Speaker 5: come back for another year. He's not ready, and then

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Speaker 5: I just think the guy's a coach on the field

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Speaker 5: and the best version of Mendoza we've not seen yet.

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Speaker 5: You look at game five six, and you look at

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Speaker 5: And I just love this kid. I like all first

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Speaker 5: Raiders were historically lows. I mean Mark Ingram made a

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Speaker 5: So my worry is he gets stuck on a really

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks on bad teams are not busts. They just take

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Speaker 1: The so Mike Elco, coach of Texas A and M said,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about this forever, the difference between the

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Speaker 1: NFL and college football is Roger Goodell. The difference between

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Speaker 1: boxing and UFC is Dana White. There's no centralized voice

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Speaker 1: in college football. That's why the schedules are uneven. That's

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Speaker 1: Elko basically says, you got to get somebody to run

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Speaker 1: this thing. It's a billion dollar business. Why wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean Saban and you both ran massive

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Speaker 1: college football programs. You're very good at broadcasting. If you

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Speaker 1: had to elect somebody, is there somebody out there? Would

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Speaker 3: I would not.

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Speaker 5: I should ask coach Saban on the third hole or

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Speaker 5: doing it. I would imagine not. But who knows. I

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Speaker 5: to need agreement for everybody to go and collaborate and

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Speaker 5: say we're going to actually listen. Because right now, the

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Speaker 5: last thing in the ends, the last thing that college

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Speaker 5: football needs is more rules. The rules are in place now,

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Speaker 5: they're not enforced. So it's like any It's like a

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Speaker 5: enforcing the laws. It's chaos. College football is chaos right now.

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Speaker 5: And it's not because we need more laws or more rules.

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Speaker 5: The rules are in place. You're not allowed to tamper,

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Speaker 5: you're not allowed to spend over this amount of money,

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Speaker 5: You're not allowed to do this, but people do it

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Speaker 5: and there's no recourse. So I think it's I think

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Speaker 5: coach Elco has got a great idea. I think in

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Speaker 5: the perfect world that's happens and everybody lives underneath those

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at the first round and Caleb Downs

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the did you ever went before a draft? Did

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Speaker 3: Better players and their quarterbacks better.

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Speaker 3: They'll be close. It's an amazing story. Amazing.

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Speaker 5: He's a he's a fifty you going on sixty seven.

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Speaker 5: But he told me this. I talked to him out

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Speaker 1: All right, keep enjoying your golf. Say hi to Nick

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Speaker 3: I love Nick. I think Nick's a good time. All right, coach,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the h he didn't just golf was saying, there

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Speaker 2: No, no, this is the herd line news.

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Speaker 6: I haven't picked up a golf club in like two years,

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Speaker 1: Such a great sport. Rip it short guys, struggle with.

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Speaker 2: The be short.

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Speaker 6: He's a short buddy. Come on, let's start with Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 6: Colin your guy Glass, Joe Burrow, guy who cannot stay healthy.

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Speaker 7: This is the most critical year in this era under

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is three straight years. You know,

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Speaker 1: So it always goes back to what's upstairs. When George

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Speaker 6: Well, to defend Burrow just a little bit. And when

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Speaker 1: All the top gms in this league always find the money.

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Speaker 1: There's a story yesterday they're in on Max Crosby. How

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Speaker 1: You think they would get the urgency of it and

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Speaker 1: they apparently in Cincinnati don't well.

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Speaker 6: And also the Rams Pooka's on the rookie deal still,

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Speaker 6: so he's cheat and he's a mid round Stoos Jared

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Speaker 6: Verse absolutely, yeah, so they hit on their draft picks. Chase,

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Speaker 6: you had your window, you got to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Now he's very expensive. T Higgins very expensive, and Joe

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Speaker 6: Burrow's got his huge contract, so like you can't. I mean,

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Speaker 6: the Bengals are in a bad spot. I like your

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Speaker 6: idea of trading Joe Burrow. My only concern is Colin,

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Speaker 6: if we're being honest, like all this talk about trading Burrow,

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Speaker 6: we'll get to Tua, Kyler Murray, CJ. Strow. It's fun,

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Speaker 6: but this stuff never happens really in the NFL. It

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Speaker 6: just doesn't. Okay, have won like every five years maybe,

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Speaker 6: well no.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean we've had star quarterbacks leave for I

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Speaker 1: mean Matt Stafford to the reference.

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Speaker 6: Yep, that was one quarterback swap really golf for something.

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Speaker 3: Right, But I mean we've had some big moves.

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Speaker 1: I mean Sam Darnold shows up with this Seahawks, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was off an MVP level season. We

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Speaker 1: have Kirk Cousins go to Atlanta. Carson Palmer did it

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Speaker 1: once in his career.

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Speaker 3: I think it's great.

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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow's at a different level than Sam Darnold was.

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Speaker 6: Come on, it's rare. I would agree Stafford for golf worked,

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Speaker 6: but I mean, I would love to see more player

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Speaker 6: movement like the NBA. The NBA was incredible when all

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Speaker 6: these guys were switching teams. I want to see it

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Speaker 6: in the NFL. I mean, I don't want to see

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Speaker 6: Burrow buried in Cincinnati if they don't win the division.

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Speaker 6: That's come on, all right, let's move on to the

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Speaker 6: Dolphins Colin. Another quarterback situation is percolating there with Tua. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: they dump Tyreek Hill, Bradley Chubb shed about thirty million

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Speaker 6: in cap space. But we're going to see what happens

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Speaker 6: with Tua. Apparently there's a report. Now again this is

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Speaker 6: just speculation. Stephen Ross is willing to pay some of

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Speaker 6: Tua's salary to facilitate the trade. That's spicy. If they

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Speaker 6: cut him pre June one ninety nine million in the

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty six in dead cap, which as we saw

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Speaker 6: with other teams, hey take the dead cap hit and

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Speaker 6: move on. If they cut him after June one, the

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Speaker 6: dead cap gets split between twenty six and twenty seven,

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Speaker 6: which is in the weeds. If they trade him fifty

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Speaker 6: four million, fully guaranteed, I've got a team for tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: We're doing headlines early because somebody's taking a vacation. Do

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Speaker 6: you want to hear my Tua potential landing spot?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 6: NFC Minnesota, Wow, that's good.

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Speaker 3: Dome.

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Speaker 6: I think Dome he could push JJ McCarthy. I don't

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Speaker 6: think it's the worst landing spot. Now, listen, I like McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: But let's say you're gonna get nine games minimum and

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Speaker 1: a dome, eight Minnesota, one in Detroit. So nine games

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Speaker 1: in a dome, you'll hopefully get either the Bears or

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Speaker 1: the Packers road game. You'll hold one of those is

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Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the AFC, all the best teams

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Speaker 1: are in cold weather. That's not true in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: So the Rams are very good. That's decent weather. You know,

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Speaker 1: Lions are good. You're playing in a dome, so San

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Speaker 1: Francisco is not, you know, awful weather.

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Speaker 6: How desperate is Miami column? Will they attach a pick

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Speaker 6: to Tua to get off that contract?

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Speaker 3: God? They need draft capital. They have to rebuild their

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Speaker 3: own line.

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Speaker 6: Well, they're tanking. That's obvious. I don't care what anybody says.

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Speaker 6: They're okay, they're starting. I mean, Quinn, youwrs is gonna

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Speaker 6: be their starter if they moved to a no backup.

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Speaker 6: There's no first round quarterback after Mendoza. That's a tank job.

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Speaker 6: They're chasing arts banding, just like the Jets are. Final

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Speaker 6: story Daniel Jeremiah mock Draft two point zero touched on

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Speaker 6: it in the first hour. His big move after Mendoza,

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Speaker 6: of course, he has David Bailey, the addresser from Texas Tech,

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Speaker 6: who I like a lot. That guy's an animal. He

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Speaker 6: moved up from seven to two to go to the Jets.

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Speaker 2: He moved R. L.

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Speaker 6: Reese from Ohio State. I do think Reese is very good,

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Speaker 6: but he's not gonna go second. He's one of these

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Speaker 6: guys who was a linebacker and transition to edge. At

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Speaker 6: times he's looked incredible. He could be awesome. I think

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Speaker 6: it's a little rich at too. We'll see about Bailey.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I if this draft

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Speaker 1: is true, I love the first ten players. Well.

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Speaker 6: Carnel tape to the Giants. What is that about.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that if I was the Giants. But

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Speaker 1: I love Carl. I think he's a great I think

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Speaker 1: he's a great prospect. I'm telling you the top of

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Speaker 1: this draft is outstanding. I don't know much about the

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Speaker 1: safety from Toledo outside of what i've you know read.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a name I did not expect.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you the top of this draft, there are

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Speaker 1: usually you can spot a bust. David Bailey is not

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Speaker 1: busting tape Lemon Love, Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 6: Makayle Lemon at eight. You know him as well as

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Speaker 6: anybody being a USC gaude.

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Speaker 1: He is going to walk into this league. He is

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Speaker 1: the closest thing.

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Speaker 6: To jsm interesting. So Tyler Schuck could have McKay Lemon

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Speaker 6: and Chris o'lave, who was who was very good last

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Speaker 6: year for my fantasy team. The only other one Jeremiah Love.

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Speaker 6: I just don't see it. Nine to Casey. A lot

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Speaker 6: of people have that.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 6: You know what, I don't like their offensive line, Cole

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Speaker 6: They're missing guy. The offensive line is not good. Why

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Speaker 6: are you drafting a superstar thing? I think this kid,

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Speaker 6: I've said this before. There's about one running back every

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Speaker 6: year or every year that is worth the first round pick.

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Speaker 6: Love is absolutely worth the first round pick. Okay, we're

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Speaker 6: not disputing that. Doesn't Kansas City have more pressing needs

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Speaker 6: than a running back.

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Speaker 1: They need a running back, they need offensive line, they

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Speaker 1: need a rush in That's that's my take.

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Speaker 6: I mean their secondary is not good at all.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a very good O line and pass rushing draft.

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Speaker 1: Can you get that in the second, third, fourth, fifth,

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Speaker 1: sixth round. You're not getting You're not getting Love anywhere

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Speaker 1: other than Notre Dame early in the draft. This is

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Speaker 1: not a good running back draft. There is one star

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Speaker 1: running back in the draft. There's six to eight good

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Speaker 1: pass rushers. There's seven to ten offensive tackles. Five of

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Speaker 1: them can play as rookies, another five are probably developmental.

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Speaker 1: It's not a good tight end draft. It's not a

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Speaker 1: good running back draft. So if the first or second

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Speaker 1: running back's taken and tight end's taken, those are the

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Speaker 1: guys that can play next year.

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Speaker 6: Caleb Downs, that's my that's my guy to move up

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Speaker 6: higher than ten. I'm just you watch these You watch

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Speaker 6: that suit Seattle defense in the Super Bowl. Colin that second.

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Speaker 6: Those guys can play all over the place. Caleb Downs

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Speaker 6: is one of those dudes.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the News, Well that's the news, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for stopping by the.

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Speaker 2: Herd Line News.

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Speaker 3: Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the twenty fourteen playoff, which has been talked

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Speaker 1: about by the Big Ten. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: magic number is, but I will say Miami, the Hurricanes almost.

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Speaker 3: Didn't get in.

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Speaker 1: And there's an argument they were the best team in

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Speaker 1: the country and it took a heroic fourth down plays

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Speaker 1: by Mendoza to beat him.

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Speaker 3: So and why is that?

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Speaker 1: Because now with the NIL and the transfer portal, you

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Speaker 1: have fifteen new players coming into these teams and it

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Speaker 1: takes much longer for chemistry to develop. That's why I

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Speaker 1: always say, don't watch college basketball until, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: late January. If you watch college basketball in October and

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Speaker 1: November with these teams have six new players, you can

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Speaker 1: be totally fool You'll say, oh, Kansas is terrible, and

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Speaker 1: then you look up two months later and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Kansas is actually pretty good. You get a totally different

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Speaker 1: team because you had all these new players coming in

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Speaker 1: in the transfer portal in the NIL. So college football

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Speaker 1: now is very much like the NFL. The Patriots were

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Speaker 1: awful in September, end up in the Super Bowl like

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Speaker 1: that used to be college football. We knew by the

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Speaker 1: second week of October these three teams can win the Natty.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there was a fourth. I watched Miami mid season.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, they're not right yet. They got to run

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Speaker 1: the ball more. They're too relyant on Carson. I mean,

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Speaker 1: go look at Mendoza for Indiana. Much different quarterback late

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Speaker 1: in the year than he was the first three games.

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Speaker 1: So I think an expanded playoff. I didn't used to

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Speaker 1: think it was important, but there's always an unintended benefit

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Speaker 1: or consequence of dramatic moves. Transfer Portal and nil are

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Speaker 1: dramatic moves. It's added a lot more players to the table,

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Speaker 1: and you really don't know what a team is until

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Speaker 1: you get to like Thanksgiving, and then you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the new right tackle, the new corner, the new receiver,

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Speaker 1: the now, everything's meshing.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Miami lost to Louisville in SMU and at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year, there's an argument. As urban Meyer said,

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Speaker 1: best team in college football. Nobody thought that in October

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Speaker 1: it's the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and neon Eastern a em Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: You know, the people could defend Rob Polenka, who you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't car either way whether you want to defend him.

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Speaker 1: But people say, well, he did get Lebron to La.

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Speaker 1: First of all, give Lebron credit. That was he and

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Speaker 1: Rich Paul. They wanted to expand his his net worth,

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Speaker 1: his reach from Cleveland to LA where you have one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty times the size of an economy. Also,

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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson portedly was pivotal in that when Lebron met

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Speaker 1: with Magic Johnson, that wasn't a Rob Polinka move. Well,

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Speaker 1: what about Anthony Davis. That really wasn't him either. That

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Speaker 1: was Lebron and Rich Paul realizing AD's great. Lebron doesn't

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Speaker 1: like to defend the rim and rebound. Lebron likes he

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Speaker 1: likes a rim defender so he can get out up

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Speaker 1: on the fast break and get the offense going. Lebron

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to be muddying around the basket and drawing

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Speaker 1: contact and I mean he just that's not his game.

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Speaker 1: Like Lebron wants to get out on the break. He

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Speaker 1: loves rim defenders. Ad was that guy that's not Rob Polinka.

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Speaker 1: Well what about Luca, Well we've heard more multiple stories

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Speaker 1: that Nico Harrison was shopping Luca. It was the Mavericks

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Speaker 1: owners were tired of Luca's injuries, wasn't in shape, complaining

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Speaker 1: to the officials, they were shopping him. So the Lebron

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Speaker 1: ad Luca acquisitions, the big stuff, a lot of that

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Speaker 1: just based on the Lakers brand and Magic Johnson and

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Speaker 1: the television exposure of the organization's been able to build

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Speaker 1: for years and years. The small stuff, the minutia, the

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Speaker 1: stuff that Oklahoma City and San Antonio and Detroit have

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Speaker 1: been great at. Polinka has struggled with. He's missed a ton.

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Speaker 1: So in my take on my take is the NBA

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Speaker 1: only lets you now build your team through drafting and developing.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I mean you can go big game

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Speaker 1: hunting with Yannis. I'm not opposed to that because I

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Speaker 1: do think if you have Luca, then in Austin reeves

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Speaker 1: you need a rim protector in Yannis. But when I

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Speaker 1: read a story by Dave mcmannimon, who's a credible reporter

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Speaker 1: and one of the sources says, well, if Lebron wants

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Speaker 1: to come back, he can come back. What that's not

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Speaker 1: the answer. That is not the answer. So, and I'll

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Speaker 1: say it again, Luca is aging quickly. He is not

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Speaker 1: Brady and Lebron. He is not Steph Curry. He's aging

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Speaker 1: like Harden, and he's aging like Mellow. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: He's twenty seven in about a week, you do, You're

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Speaker 1: two years away from looking up at twenty nine, and

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Speaker 1: he's no longer in the MBB conversation. You go look

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Speaker 1: at James Harden. He's one of those awards thirty and under,

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Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony twenty eight and under. So Luca's more fluctuating weight,

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Speaker 1: fluctuating on defensive effort time is a wasting Here is

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Speaker 1: Nick right earlier on Lebron's future after this season.

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Speaker 4: I do not believe Lebron James is retiring, and I

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Speaker 4: do not believe Lebron James will be a Laker next year.

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Speaker 4: I think wherever the final chapter is going to be

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Speaker 4: will be somewhere else. Is a basketball crime that you

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Speaker 4: had Lebron James on your roster, who Luca modeled his

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Speaker 4: game after and the types of players that you need

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Speaker 4: to have around an older Lebron James to succeed. Are

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Speaker 4: the exact types of players you need to have around

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Speaker 4: Luke at Ancic. And they trade for Luke at Ancic

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Speaker 4: and more more than a year removed, and they're like, man,

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Speaker 4: we sure don't have the right types of guys around him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not real complicated. If lucas your star,

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Speaker 1: like Steph Curry, you got us surround him with size.

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Speaker 1: If you go to the Dallas team that got to

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Speaker 1: the finals, it was big. It was Luca and size,

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Speaker 1: and that's how you have to build around him. So

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna resign Lebron, Lebron's not going to defend

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Speaker 1: the rim. Lebron's not a twitchy wing defender. Lebron's not

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Speaker 1: a knockdown, catch and shoot three guy. You need about

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Speaker 1: four of those guys, like Jason timp said yesterday, they

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Speaker 1: need three new starters, all of them good defensively. You're

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Speaker 1: not getting them and re signing Lebron James.

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Speaker 6: Colin hot take on the Lebron Luca article from Mcmnhiman,

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Speaker 6: who I know well, I played hoops with him in

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Speaker 6: the All Stars.

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Speaker 1: Very capable very he's great.

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Speaker 6: The Lakers are reading the cold war between Lebron and Luca.

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Speaker 6: There's some like coded words being used, like Lebron's like

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Speaker 6: we're not a championship team. Luca came out this past

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Speaker 6: weekend we're a very, very dangerous team. There's some stuff

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Speaker 6: going on back and forth. I think the Lakers wanted

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Speaker 6: to take down the temperature with this whole Lebron, You're

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Speaker 6: welcome to come back. Everybody, take a deep breath. Okay,

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Speaker 6: let's finish the season. You know they've only played ten

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Speaker 6: games this year with Lebron, Luca and Reefs. I think

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Speaker 6: take down the temperature. Let's see what happens, and let's

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Speaker 6: go into the off season. Let's not try to settle

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Speaker 6: the off season in freaking February. It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: I think they're gonna be fine by the paper clips

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Speaker 6: on Friday. I'd invite you, but you're gonna be where

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Speaker 6: are you gonna be?

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Speaker 3: A good?

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Speaker 1: Good John today? Nick right, Urban Meyer, good stuff. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: It's the herd