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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newey Scrugs.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, here we go. It's time for the

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Speaker 1: longtime Cowboys reporter, joined by two former Dallas Cowboys safeties

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Speaker 1: now in the offseason, which means we only go one

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Speaker 1: all right six and ten football team officially with the

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Speaker 1: tenth overall pick in the draft. It is you. What

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Speaker 1: is your off season priority? Number one? Danny mccram start

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Speaker 1: with you. Now you already know my top off season priority,

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Speaker 1: especially if we're talking about draft picks. I am going

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Speaker 1: straight finding a way to get me a left tackle,

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Speaker 1: to sure up my offensive line and get these guys

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Speaker 1: back to playing the football that got us to those

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Speaker 1: playoff runs and got us almost to the to the championship.

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Speaker 1: You know, Bez did catch it. They changed the rule,

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Speaker 1: but that's when we were really really making some moves

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Speaker 1: and we were able to run the ball and people

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Speaker 1: were really fearing our offensive line. So I'm doing whatever

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Speaker 1: I can to share that up, and then for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the draft, I'll focus on defense and free agency.

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Speaker 1: I get us some defensive picks to re up this

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Speaker 1: defensive backfield and a defensive line, but I'm going offensive

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Speaker 1: line first. Wow, Okay, all right, Look mean, there's so

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Speaker 1: many different scenarios here, because y'all know how I feel

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Speaker 1: about the whole quarterback position. And if my guy falls

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Speaker 1: back to ten, you know, you know how I feel

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Speaker 1: about that. So let's just say that scenarios out the gate.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say he's gone before he gets to ten.

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Speaker 1: So we're not We're not even going to open that

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Speaker 1: cookie shell. But for me, there's two positions that we

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Speaker 1: need to make a priority this offseason, and I think

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Speaker 1: it has to do with the drafting. We're talking specifically

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Speaker 1: a number one priority for us is one the defensive

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Speaker 1: with a de tackle position. I mean, we got, we got.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Crawford is going to be back. I

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Speaker 1: sincerely doubt that Crawford is going to be back. And

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Speaker 1: I know that Tristan Hill, he's shown that he's on

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Speaker 1: the come, that he's on the way up there and

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Speaker 1: So for me, I think we need to pair somebody

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Speaker 1: I mean, what we've seen so far this year, well

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Speaker 1: So if we get a defensive tackle in there who

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Speaker 1: letting our linebackers go side to side, I think that

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to go safety as far as

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Speaker 1: But if there's questions about it, he is he need this?

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Speaker 1: you know, all these these empty calories and all these

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Speaker 1: empty stats, And that's what I think if we don't

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Speaker 1: have a defense going into next year, that's what I

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Speaker 1: think our team will look like. It'll be a lot

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Speaker 1: of blowouts. Here comes Dak Prescott leading us back into

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Speaker 1: the game. It'll end up being a close game, but

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Speaker 1: we'll end up taking that L. I think we need

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Speaker 1: a defense to help Dak Prescott get to that next level.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's terrible, he can't beat the leader

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Speaker 1: of our team or anything like that. I'm just saying it,

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Speaker 1: without a good defense, we'll have a lot of those

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Speaker 1: packer games where it's all empty calories. It might be

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Speaker 1: a thirty eight to seven at the beginning. Oh he's

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Speaker 1: leading us back and the score was thirty eight thirty four?

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Speaker 1: What a game? Did you see that? But we ended

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Speaker 1: up taking the L. So I just think he needs

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Speaker 1: that comparable defense. But that's no, it's not on him

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Speaker 1: at all. Can't control that. That's that's where he can't

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Speaker 1: control that. That's why I think he needs he exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think he needs to get the We

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Speaker 1: need to get that money on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. I think we need more help on the

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Speaker 1: defensis something. We don't have that but obviously, and I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with that, and I'm okay with that's all right

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Speaker 1: with that. To me, I think the key to winning.

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Speaker 1: To me, I think you have to be on you

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Speaker 1: have to be on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I think the key to winning championship is on it.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong, I could be completely wrong, but

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Speaker 1: I think the key is on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. If you said that, if you said that, Barry, Barry,

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Speaker 1: if you truly believe that, you'd be wearing a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl ring. This is true. But we both but we

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Speaker 1: average quarterback. Like we didn't need to have an average quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We had a less than average quarter backs. What happened

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Speaker 1: when you go cheap, when you go to dollar in

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Speaker 1: general and you get it? What has happened with all

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Speaker 1: defense the past four years, and where have we gone? Nowhere?

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Speaker 1: So if you have to have that middle blot, you

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Speaker 1: You gotta have both. Hello, Hello, Solo. So we had

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Speaker 1: Figure out. Figure out your game playing here, Church, figure

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Speaker 1: this offseason and invest heavily in defense and even if

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Speaker 1: it costs you Dak Prescott as your quarterback, because you

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Speaker 1: feel instead of paying him forty mi million dollars or more,

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Speaker 1: that you could get a bus driver type quarterback and

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Speaker 1: win a championship? Am I hearing that correct? What I'm

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he's worth forty two million dollars

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Speaker 1: and wrecking your defense and You're basically going to bring

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Speaker 1: the same defense you did last year, and that's what

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Speaker 1: it would cost us a lot of these games because

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Speaker 1: we weren't able to stop an knee by d So

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Speaker 1: if Dak was going for thirty eight, maybe even thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: we're giving him the same contract that the Shaun Watson had,

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Speaker 1: which was basically thirty nine a year. I'm okay with that,

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Speaker 1: But when you get into the forty two, forty threes,

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Speaker 1: maybe even forty five millions, I'm not so sure. I'm

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Speaker 1: pulling a trigger on that. And I would allow allocate

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Speaker 1: those funds to the defensive side of the ball. That's

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Okay, So let me follow this question

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Speaker 1: up here. Based on what you said, what team is

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Speaker 1: doing it the right way in terms of defensive allocation

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Speaker 1: and what they pay their quarterback? Who's doing it the

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Speaker 1: right way? A man I would say, I would say

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Speaker 1: New England, But they ain't spending money on anybody. So

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Speaker 1: for me, I gotta do some research on that one.

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Speaker 1: I gotta do some research on that one because it's

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Speaker 1: not at the top of my head right now. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get me back to me on that one. Get

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Speaker 1: me about five minutes. I get back to you on

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Speaker 1: that one. Okay, Okay, I mean I'll just go ahead,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Dan, Now i's gonna say. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: think and you write Church on to one too. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you on one. I don't think that is

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Speaker 1: getting served up forty five million dollars. That is, that

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Speaker 1: is grossly overpaying, especially for the situation that we're in

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Speaker 1: forty five million. I think he should be righting around

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Speaker 1: what Deshaun Watson is. I see them as equal. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're getting up to forty five, you know, somewhere and there.

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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a little bit too

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Speaker 1: much for Dak Prescott, especially to have some other pieces

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Speaker 1: around the team. So as far as price, I could

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Speaker 1: definitely see where you're coming from. So let me ask

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Speaker 1: this question. Do you think the Sinks do it correctly

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Speaker 1: in terms of the defense and quarterback allocation to Drew Brees?

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Speaker 1: What did he just signed a two two for fifth? Yes,

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Speaker 1: so Drew Brees right now he's making twenty five a year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees has a cap hit of cap hit of

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Speaker 1: twenty three point six million bucks. So right now he's

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Speaker 1: taking up eleven point nine percent of the Saints salary

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Speaker 1: cap in twenty twenty. That ain't fair. That ain't that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying I'm saying, I'm saying the compared. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the comparison is fair because Tom Brady has

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Speaker 1: signed these team friendly deals when they forty years old.

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Speaker 1: This is not they first they first go around to

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Speaker 1: getting a big contract, something comparable to what quarterbacks were

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Speaker 1: getting paid when Drew Brees first got paid, which like now,

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Speaker 1: were to be less. But you got to look at

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Speaker 1: like what quarterbacks were getting paid around that around that time,

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Speaker 1: and then compared, and I believe that it would be

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Speaker 1: at the top of the top of whatever everybody else

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Speaker 1: was getting right now. I don't think that's fair because

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Speaker 1: you have Drew Brees on his way out, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's taking twenty five. He already made so much money.

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Speaker 1: So they're taking these really deal so they can so

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Speaker 1: they can let the rest of the team have those

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Speaker 1: pieces that Church are talking about. And you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: talk back into doing that that first of all, that

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Speaker 1: that would be disrespectful for you to ask Dack to

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Speaker 1: do that. You got him in the fourth round. You've

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Speaker 1: been saying he's gonna pay him for years and then

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Speaker 1: now you got him on the franchise tag and he

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Speaker 1: don't have a large long term deal. I don't ask

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Speaker 1: him to take a Tom Brady or Drew Brees deal.

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Speaker 1: Team friendly, Okay, we all cat how far is the

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Speaker 1: cap gonna go down? Like that's the other thing we've

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Speaker 1: got to think. How far is that cap gonna go

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Speaker 1: down heading into this year? It doesn't because here's why

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter Barry, because once they put him on

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag, the next year tag was already kicked

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Speaker 1: in because I can't remember it's thirty percent anyway, it's

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Speaker 1: a certain number that kicks in if you want to

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Speaker 1: do another franchise tag again. SOT thirty one million bucks

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Speaker 1: this year, and then the next tag according to the

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Speaker 1: number that the CBA was signed and the owners and

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Speaker 1: the players agreed to, DAK was gonna get it kicked

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Speaker 1: into thirty eight million bucks. And then I think the

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Speaker 1: next one is a crazy number. Um you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: almost you know, almost in the in the maybe forty

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Speaker 1: or fifty million, doctor. I mean, it just it just

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Speaker 1: increases a lot. So the cow no matter what the

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Speaker 1: cap was, the Cowboys are gonna be locked into this deal,

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Speaker 1: so and it's made to be that way. So it

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Speaker 1: gives you the team an incentive to get the contract done.

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Speaker 1: So this is the Cowboys fault. So to me, from

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Speaker 1: what from what Danny you're telling me now I'm hearing you,

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Speaker 1: is Dak Prescott is going to get a contract comparable

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Speaker 1: to his peers, peers being Jared Golf, Carson Wentz who

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Speaker 1: who came in later drafts, guys around him who signed extensions.

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Speaker 1: Is that what I'm hearing. Absolutely not. So that's a fifty,

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Speaker 1: not fifty. I'm just saying specifically Deshaun I think he

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Speaker 1: So we're telling forty one forty two, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be forty. It's going to mean it's going to be

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars because his cap number that she's basically

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Speaker 1: gonna be thirty eight million bucks. So they're gonna look

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Speaker 1: at the Sean Way and say, look at the value

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Speaker 1: of a Deshaun Watson. We think our players this type

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Speaker 1: of value to your team, um, and they're gonna want

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Speaker 1: forty million bucks. So I mean and once again we

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Speaker 1: we we talked about, hey, the players not worth this.

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Speaker 1: So this is what this is what happened. This is

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Speaker 1: what managers mess up. It was kind of like the Tank.

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Speaker 1: You could have got Tank at sixteen million bucks, but

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Speaker 1: and then they were starting to say, hey, we'll get

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Speaker 1: got him at twenty and his and the franchise numbers eighteen,

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Speaker 1: Dack's gonna do the same thing with his age. He's

648
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. So if it's thirty eight, they're gonna get forty.

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Speaker 1: And you're just gonna have to and you're gonna eat

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Speaker 1: the frog because this is what they always do. They

651
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Speaker 1: ate it with Zeke, they ate it with Tag, with Tank,

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Speaker 1: they ate it with with Tyrant Smith, they ate it

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Speaker 1: with Zach Martin, they ate it with Travis. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. This is what they do. They are They're

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Speaker 1: gonna eat it. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I think we can all agree like that. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: put themselves in this situation, like you said, knew it.

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Speaker 1: This could have been rectified two years ago when when

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Speaker 1: would have signed it. We wouldn't have been in this

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Speaker 1: predicament we are right now. But they decided to wait,

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Speaker 1: and now it's I mean, they're up against a rock

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Speaker 1: in the hard place. I mean, do you do you

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, they put themselves in this situation,

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Speaker 1: and hey, they're gonna have to deal with it. Stop

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Speaker 1: stop digging. I mean, you're in a hole. Just stop digging.

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, that's what it is at this point

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Speaker 1: in time. Now you kept digging this hole the quarterback

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Speaker 1: and digging and digging. Just drop the shovel. Pay the man,

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Speaker 1: because this is something we all know. If the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: don't pay him the forty, somebody else will. They're going

676
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Speaker 1: to be easy. They're going to do it so and

677
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: so you might as well just go ahead and do it,

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Speaker 1: because you know you know, let's say he signs forty

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Speaker 1: win some games. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna catch

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Speaker 1: They're gonna catch it. They're gonna catch it. They don't

682
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Speaker 1: want to catch it. And McCarthy wants to coaching. McCarthy

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Speaker 1: wants to coaching. Our man Jerry Jones is itching towards

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Speaker 1: eighty years old. He doesn't want to start over. So

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Speaker 1: just write check and do it as quickly as you

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Speaker 1: can write to chat. Just let strike the chat. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's squeeze another break exactly, let's squeeze in his break.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to Mike Nolan and what defensive

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Speaker 1: headphones ready as I tell you what Mike McCarthy had

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Speaker 1: to say about his hand chosen defensive coordinator. He said,

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Speaker 1: with asked about his status, he said, quote, that's what

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Speaker 1: we're working on. That's what this process is all about.

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00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: That's the short version. So Mike McCarthy not committing that

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Speaker 1: Mike Nolan will be his diffensive coordinator next year, but

744
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Speaker 1: saying that they're going through a process, that they're looking

745
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: at things, which I personally I take that as Hey,

746
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to save my guy. I gotta sit around

747
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: here for show Jerry and Stevens some ways where we

748
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: improved and try to keep them back. But I don't see,

749
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: I personally don't see any way they can keep Mike

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Speaker 1: Nolan as their defensive coordinator. McCarthy's just gonna had to

751
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Speaker 1: understand when you go six and ten in Jerry world,

752
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: people have to pay, Okay, you just don't get to

753
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Speaker 1: come back every everybody just don't get to come on back.

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Speaker 1: You got to pay, And so that's the thing he's

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Speaker 1: got to understand. Realheady Mack, Yeah, I don't think he knows.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's one of those situations to where

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Speaker 1: he wasn't in the room when they were talking about

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Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, Like I have heard youthing about that. I

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Speaker 1: think I think Jerry, Jerry and Stephen are trying to

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Speaker 1: figure it out, trying to find out who's available and

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Speaker 1: who they want to get, and hopefully they find it

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Speaker 1: out soon. So this doesn't linger on too much because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, it's something in me that believes that

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Speaker 1: Mike Nolan has a real strong possibility of coming back

765
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Speaker 1: just because all the stuff that they faced this season

766
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: or no off season in COVID. But I don't think

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00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: that that that he should survive this and I think

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00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: that he should be out and they find another guy

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Speaker 1: who's able to maximize the potential of the players that

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Speaker 1: we currently have on the roster. Yeah, to me, I

771
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: don't understand what the process is all about. Man, I

772
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: think he should have been gone on Black Friday with

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Speaker 1: the rest of those coaches that were dismissed. But to me,

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00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: I just don't understand. I just don't. He was a

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Speaker 1: part of one of the historically worst defenses in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League this year. I mean, teams were able

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Speaker 1: to run the ball up and down the field on

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Speaker 1: our defense, and it wasn't until the last four games

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Speaker 1: of the year that we started taking the ball away

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Speaker 1: with any type of regularity. So for me, I think

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00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: he was a part of the problem. He was probably

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Speaker 1: the main problem, and I think he needs to go

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Speaker 1: ahead and go. But you're right, new you. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if if McCarthy's trying to save you know, his boy,

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Speaker 1: his boy's job, or if he's trying to save his

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Speaker 1: friendship with Noland. You know what I'm saying, I don't

787
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: want to He's wanting to Nolan saying, hey, man, look

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Speaker 1: I tried to fight for you. I tried to fight

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Speaker 1: for you. I went in there, I went to bat

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Speaker 1: for you and me it just didn't work out that way.

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Speaker 1: Knowing all the way on the back of his mind,

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Speaker 1: he's like, man, look, we need to get this guy

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Speaker 1: up out of here. Man, But you know, he's my boy,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to do him like that, So

795
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Speaker 1: let me get his best opportunity to speak to Jerry

796
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Speaker 1: and see if we can prolong this thing a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But in the back of his mind he probably already

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00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: knows Mike's Mike is on his way out. When I

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00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: see Mike McCarthy talk like that, I kind of laughed

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Speaker 1: because he goes vague like that. One of the things

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00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: being a reporter is I've started to learn to listen

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00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: to what people don't say. That was how I used

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00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: to read Jason Garrett. Listen to what he didn't say

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00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: about a player. You know, if he talked about a

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00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott or Zach Whar, He's like, this is a

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00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: guy does everything the right way, really loves football. I

807
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: mean he would throw a fusive praise on it. Then

808
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: when he talked about Taco Charlton never heard any of that.

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Speaker 1: That was how I could decode how Jason felt about

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Speaker 1: a guy. And I go back to this to say,

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Speaker 1: when Steven Jones and you listen to Steven's radio interviews,

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00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: when Steven Jones came out and said, hey, there's some

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Speaker 1: guys who were on that defense last year who really

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Speaker 1: played better and they're not playing well this year, and

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Speaker 1: I took that as him saying, hey, it's not that

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00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: our guys far players stink. It's not that we don't

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00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: know personnel at all. Our personnel is not any good.

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Speaker 1: These were guys last year we are getting it done

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Speaker 1: in the defense. We didn't think it was good enough.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden they stink. I'm not buying that,

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Speaker 1: And that, to me is where a guy like Mike

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Speaker 1: Nolan is gonna end up having to fall on the

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Speaker 1: sword because you don't have a guy like Steven Jones

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Speaker 1: who's in your corner. And we all know Stephen Jones

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00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: has major say in this organization. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: how they can sit around here and just try to

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Speaker 1: go off these last four games and say, hey, look

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Speaker 1: we're a better football team. I thought the Giant game

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Speaker 1: was just one more reason why Mike Nolan should go.

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Speaker 1: You had something to play for. You're playing against a

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Speaker 1: team that was challenged offensively to score twenty points the

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Speaker 1: last ten weeks of the season, and they scored twenty.

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Speaker 1: They put up twenty points in the first half. He's

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Speaker 1: just not the guy as if you're Mike mccarthur, you

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Speaker 1: can simply say this man, you're my friend. And I

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00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: tried I gave you a shot. I let you run

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Speaker 1: this thing. I ran over here with Kellen. I was

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00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: sitting here deal with offense. I let you had a

839
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Speaker 1: whole lab to yourself, and this is what you did.

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00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: You blew up the lab, so you got to go.

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Speaker 1: You're still my boy. I still got love for y'all.

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Speaker 1: Call around and maybe get a position coach somewhere, because

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00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: you guys know, dudes like Mike Nolan stick around forever.

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Speaker 1: Somebody will hire him as a position coach, so he'll

845
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: go there, but he can't coordinate this defense. And if

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Speaker 1: you're going to get the best years out of Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott and get your return on investment in Ezekiel Elliott

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Speaker 1: and Tyrn Smith and all these guys, then you got

849
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: to start with a defensive change. This is not a

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Speaker 1: man who needs to come back here. And personally, I

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00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: don't know if the Joneses are sold on just trying

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Speaker 1: to go to a three four defense because in the past,

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Speaker 1: and I've been here in the past, and they've talked

854
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: about how there were too many changes in personnel that

855
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: they had to make and that it took you basically

856
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: almost two years in their opinion, to flip the defense around.

857
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: So I don't see them doing this three four deal.

858
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: I believe it's going to be a four three. They'll

859
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: bring in somebody, you know, it could be George Edwards. Okay,

860
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: George Edwards is already in the building seeing what these

861
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: guys can do. He worked with Mike Zimmer. They love

862
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer. Okay, the Jones family loves Mike Zimmer. George

863
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: was right there with him, and until this season when

864
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: George was gone, the Vikings defense was pretty good. It

865
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: was pretty good under Mike Zimmer. So to me, you

866
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: already have a guy who's in the building, understands a

867
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: personnel can possibly make the right changes that you need

868
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: to and you go on from there. That's right now,

869
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: that's the easiest solution, in my opinion, a proving guy

870
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: in the league. Georgia, hold on, hold on now, because listen,

871
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: old uncle Wade, I said your tweet. Uncle Wade said,

872
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: if you want to change from four to three two

873
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: three four, he can get it done, all right. And

874
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: he puts some some stats down there and he lets

875
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: you know that. He changes the Texas and the Rams

876
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: and the Broncos, and they all changed from losing teams

877
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: to winning teams. He got that stuff done, so it

878
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: can be done. Let me tell you this about Mike Nolan,

879
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: all right, because we want to talk about personnel and uh,

880
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: you know how, and he may have this different person

881
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: there and bring some more guys in and all this

882
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: other stuff. The truth of the matter is, in all likelihood,

883
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: it's about two positions on the defense that he's going

884
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: to be able to upgrade at the position the safety

885
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: and possibly the corner. You got two draft picks, a

886
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. You got Randy Gregory, you got Take Lawrence.

887
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: On the other side, you have your two linebackers who

888
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: are going to be here next year. You got Lvee

889
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: and you got Jayala Smith. So it's not like you're

890
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: going to go in and be able to revamp everything.

891
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: He's going to be playing with essentially eighty to eighty

892
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: five percent of the same guys that he had this year.

893
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: So the personnel change and all that stuff, and this

894
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: is what's gonna fix fix Mike Nolan and all that

895
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: that's not flying. The likelihood is you bring somebody else

896
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: in here that can work with the talent that you

897
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: already have and then upgrade what they can do based

898
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: off what you're able to pick up in the drafting

899
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: free agency. Mike Nolan cannot get it done. I'm not

900
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: going to argue with you on that at all. I'm

901
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: not going to argue with that at all. I just

902
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: think that you tried it and you gotta go ahead

903
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: and move on, move on from it. I mean, when

904
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: you talk about the linebackers, Mike Nolan was the guy

905
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: who said put Laton Vanderesh in the middle and throw

906
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Spent to the outside. I don't think any of

907
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: us on this show like that move. I think they

908
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: should flip flop that as soon as possible. I mean,

909
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: when we saw Banderesh making plays, it was on the outside.

910
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see. Um, he's just gotta go.

911
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: I mean, that's about Botoline question you gotta go? Yeah,

912
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: quick question was no is the secondaries coach and like

913
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: those those assistant coach of those guys that are under

914
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Nolan or McCarthy brought those guys in as well. I

915
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: think it's a combination where you know, I don't think

916
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: that McCarthy brought in anybody Nolan wasn't comfortable with. But

917
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: that's that's my thing too. It's whoever to me, whoever

918
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: the coordinator is is it should have the right to

919
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: try to bring in some position of guys that he

920
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: wants who understand what he wants to do. If if

921
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: they all talked about and Mike McCarthy had no problems

922
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: talking about this all the time as the defenses, Hey,

923
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: it was coaching with dudes he had coach with before.

924
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: So if you let's say you bring in George Edwards,

925
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: if you bring in George Edwards, should George Jetwards be

926
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: allowed to bring in a dB coach and a D

927
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: line coach, a linebacker coach to people that he has

928
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: some familiarity with who can help him implement the defense

929
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: the way he wants. So I think that it's gonna

930
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: be to me. I think it's sweeping changes on the

931
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: defensive side of the football. It's not just Mike Nolan,

932
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: Jim Thompson. Look at get got dB coach, linebacker coach.

933
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean, all these people can get gout and I

934
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't have any issues with it at all. Jerry's going

935
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: to write a check for it, but but I don't

936
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: have any issues with them rolling through these dudes. I mean,

937
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: this is the price of business people have to pack

938
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: six and ten. I told you six and ten. Everybody

939
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: doesn't get to come back, okay, you know everybody can't

940
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: be like Kellen Moore, get a contract at Sension and

941
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: live on. I mean, some people want to go ahead

942
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: and die. You know, some people are gonna have to

943
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: die for six and ten and that's just just the

944
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: way it is. One of the things I want to

945
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: talk about here on the players lounges is the offensive

946
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: line and m cray, I heard you talk about wanting

947
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: a left tackle at ten. First off, the best left

948
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: tackle is probably going to be gone at three or four,

949
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: the kid from Oregon. So I'm not sure who's left

950
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: at left tackle at ten. But to me, when I

951
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: look at the kind of money they've invested in Tyring

952
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: and invested in Lel Collins at the tackle positions, those

953
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: guys are going to be there, but we do know

954
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: they'll miss games. If I'm starting my offensive line next fall,

955
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: my sinner is Tyler Bias, second year man from Wisconsin.

956
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Tyre Sin's my left tackle. I'm going to

957
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: put Connor McGovern at left guard, replacing Connor Williams. I'm

958
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: going to put Zack Martin at right tackle. I'm going

959
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: to put Lyle Collins. I mean, put Zack Martin at

960
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: right guard and put Collins at right tackle, and Connor

961
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: Williams is going to become my swing tackle because I'm

962
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: going to be He's gonna be in the he'll be

963
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: in the final year of his deal. Too many times

964
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: I feel like Connor Williams has gotten overmatched to guard.

965
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guard. I think he's tackle.

966
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: The National Football League. I want to see him there,

967
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna spend that last year with Carter Williams

968
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: out there now. And you talk about drafting the tackle

969
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: later on in the draft. I'm all four. I don't

970
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: have any issue with it. I don't. But at ten

971
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: I cannot. I cannot take a tackle at ten who

972
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: possibly doesn't start. I need a walk in starter at

973
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: ten in the first round, and that's got a most

974
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: and that's got to be a defensive player. In my opinion,

975
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: that's just me, but that's my take. The offensive line

976
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: listen minus is virtually the same. I got my Governor

977
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: left guard, YadA center, Martin, right guard, Collins, right tackle.

978
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: I do not listen. I do not believe that Connor

979
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: Williams has enough anchor to play guard our tackle. Like

980
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: I've never actually looked at the offensive line play as

981
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: much as I have this year since we started talking

982
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: about it on the show, and I'm talking about repeated league.

983
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: If you have a guy with any strength and any

984
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: type of bull rush, Connor Williams cannot handle it. And

985
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he wants to be out there at

986
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: tackle facing guys who knows one hundred percent that they

987
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: can just push him back into the quarterback. I don't

988
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: trust them being out there at left tackle. And like

989
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: you said, Tyren Smith's going him this time. So Connor

990
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: Williams is going to be starting a few games, and

991
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to be out there word about how

992
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: many how many guys are focusing on Connor Williams getting

993
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: bull rushing into Dak Prescott throughout the game. So that's

994
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: why I want to focus on the left tackle. Now.

995
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: If a left tackle that you believe in it's sitting

996
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: there at number ten, then I believe that you gotta

997
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: take them. That's just that's just where I go with it.

998
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: You have some guys on defense that we said are

999
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: ascending as far as being able to show some some potential.

1000
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: So I'm still stuck at protecting Dak Prescott. Say, if

1001
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna sign him to a four or five year deal,

1002
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: make sure that he has the offensive line and uh,

1003
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: and get you a left tackle. Wait, so you're gonna

1004
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna sign back to that big deal and then

1005
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: and then take your first rounder on somebody who might

1006
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: not be able to be in there there to stop

1007
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm put no, no, no, no no. That's why I said,

1008
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: if you have somebody that you would leave in that

1009
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: sitting at number ten, since we already missed up our

1010
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: draft order, Like if they would have done with me

1011
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: and now he said a long time ago, you would

1012
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: have been up there picking earlier, and you possibly had

1013
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: a guy that you could depend on being a starter

1014
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: on day one, Like just like cde loumb fell to

1015
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: you last season and you had to pick them. If

1016
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: your left tackle falls to you at number ten in

1017
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: the draft, I believe that you have to take them.

1018
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: You invest all this money in Dak Prescott, so you

1019
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: need to protect them and have some guys that are

1020
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: dependable out there and go back to that game plan

1021
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: that you had previously. Control the clock, make people figure

1022
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: your offensive line and control the line of scrimmage, and

1023
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: then play defense fifteen minutes out of the game and

1024
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: take the ball away because everybody's playing from behind. I

1025
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: think that's a recipe for us for winning. For what

1026
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 1: we have currently on the roster. You think that defense

1027
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: when we got currently on the on the roster right now,

1028
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: I can do that. No, listen, you're just trying to

1029
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: win the shootouts. You're trying to win shoot out to that. No, no, no, listen, listen.

1030
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: Already I already spoke to this. The guys that we

1031
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: have on the defense, most of them are still going

1032
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: to be here on the roster next year, and we

1033
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: talked about changing out some guys in the secondary. We

1034
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: talked about changing out essentially two guys, the safety and

1035
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: one of the corners. We still got a b and

1036
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: we got digs who are going to be starting as

1037
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: the number two, a number three corner on the roster.

1038
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: Were talked about going to get the safety. Our linebackers

1039
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: are already putting much Centenstone and our defensive line. For

1040
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: the most part, besides one day y'all talking about drafting

1041
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: in the first round, it's pretty much senten Stone, we

1042
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: got the two outside guys. We got another Gallimore who

1043
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: we drafted, and you got Tristan Hill. I'm sure I'm

1044
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 1: not here. He ain't going nowhere. Sure, watch the film,

1045
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: Watch the take. Wat's the take? Listen. Sorry, I can't

1046
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: sit around here and look at this Cowboys defense and

1047
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: think that with a potential tenth overall pick in the

1048
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: draft to use it on offense and somebody that's not

1049
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: in a walking starter, I can't. I can't see it.

1050
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. And also, I go back to

1051
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: what we've talked about before. If you signed Dak Prescott,

1052
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: what do you need you need to start to bring

1053
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: in cost certainty on players you use a defensive selection.

1054
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: That's five years you have with a player versus getting

1055
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: them at four years in every other round. So that

1056
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: to me makes it even more imperative than I need

1057
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: a defensive guy who I can have here for five years,

1058
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: and I need to try to hit on a blue

1059
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: chip defensive player versus a offensive lineman who's going to

1060
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: potentially sit on the bench. That doesn't make sense. Guys

1061
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: in a financial, a salary cap world, that just doesn't

1062
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: make sense. What we're talking about sitting on the bench. Well,

1063
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: first of all, and don't forget about Taco. Charleston already

1064
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: talking about five years. All right, So let's not act

1065
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: like just because you draft a defensive player in the

1066
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: first round, are they gonna be here that long? And

1067
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm pass when you pass on the better player. Yeah,

1068
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but but but but we did and

1069
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: and Taco was not here for five years. But remember

1070
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm speaking of, is if we do not have Tyren

1071
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: Smith on the roster, this is my position, not draft

1072
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: a guy to be behind Tyrann Smith and sit on

1073
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: the bench. I'm speaking of we don't have Tyren Smith

1074
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: on the roster, and our and our left tackle is

1075
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: the guy who is going to come replace him. That

1076
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: is what I was talking about during the season, and

1077
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about now, not a guy. Yeah,

1078
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: We're not gonna draft a gud number ten to come

1079
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: sit behind Tyren Smith. That would make no sense. Yeah,

1080
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: you got Tyre Smith on the roster, go defense. So

1081
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: all right, So I'll give you a name that I've

1082
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: seen at ten by certain people, Rashawn Slater off to

1083
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: tackle Northwestern. So if you take Slater at ten, where

1084
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: are you putting him at to start the season. It's

1085
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith on the roster, Yes, well you don't take

1086
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: you don't take him at ten. My whole, my whole

1087
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: game plan was not to remember we had this discussion

1088
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: during the season who should be on the roster who shouldn't.

1089
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: I was adamant about Tyren Smith is not going to

1090
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: be able to be dependable. If you can move him

1091
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: or release him, get rid of especially if it could

1092
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: save you some money and get you a new offensive

1093
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: tackle who's going to be dependable out there, not Carnel Williams.

1094
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: That is what I said. And if you're able to

1095
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: do that, I still believe that if Tyre Smith is

1096
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: on the roster, knew your church, we ain't taking the

1097
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: tackle at number ten. We're going defense like, yeah, you're

1098
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: not going to stack him the position if Tyren Smith

1099
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: is still out there. So just to clarify, just to

1100
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: clarify things, if you were the GM, in your opinion,

1101
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: you would either release or try to find a trade

1102
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: partner for iron Smith. Absolutely, if I can find something

1103
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: that worked, if I could, if I could find something

1104
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: that worked for me, absolutely, and listen, bad back, bad neck,

1105
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: bad knees is next he has, he ain't been able

1106
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: to play out there. There's not nothing against the guy,

1107
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: how hard he works or how good he is at

1108
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: the position. We're talking about straight health, some stuff that

1109
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: he can't even control. He can lift as much as

1110
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: he wants to, he could do as much rehab as

1111
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: he wants to, and he's still not been able to

1112
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: be available. And that's just that. That's the fact. You

1113
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: can go back and see. And when he's not out there,

1114
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: our offensive line is in limbo. You have major major

1115
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: issues when Tyron Smith is not playing in the game. Okay,

1116
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: so I'll just throw your dead cap money out here. Okay,

1117
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: the dead cap hit for Tyron Smith in twenty twenty

1118
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: one is eight point eight million dollars. So that's that's

1119
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: the that's the dead cap hit. His overall cap hit

1120
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: is fourteen million bucks, so too much, um so that

1121
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: that's it. If he if he plays for you, it's

1122
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: fourteen million bucks for to pay the thirty year old.

1123
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: If you want to move on from him, it's gonna

1124
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: cost you eight point eight million bucks, which means you're

1125
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna basically split it up. But a post June June

1126
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: one cut pay four million. This year and then pay

1127
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: four million against your cap next year. That's what it's

1128
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: going to be. How much how much of a customer

1129
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: this year? How much a customers year? When he was

1130
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: on the field. His salary cap hit this year was

1131
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: six point four million dollars because they restructured five point

1132
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: three the Cowboys came. How many games that deals? Thank you?

1133
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: How many games that he plays six so so so

1134
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: so so. The point is, the point is, if he's

1135
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: not able to be on the field, why are we

1136
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: talking about cap hits. You're paying the guy not to

1137
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: even be out there, and you have to worry about

1138
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: him not being out there for the foreseeable future because

1139
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: he's been subject to injury for the last few years.

1140
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: So you can say, hey, eight million dollars cap hit,

1141
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: but a dude sitting on the sideline get paid fourteen

1142
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: million dollars. You're losing. It's a loss just because you're

1143
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 1: trying to say some cape. Okay, what I will Okay, fine,

1144
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: I'll go back into what I've seen from the Jones

1145
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: family and how they operated for years. Flozell Adams was

1146
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: a guy who had issues, and they kept rolling with

1147
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: the issues until finally Flozell couldn't go anymore, and they

1148
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: ended up bringing drafting Tyrant Smith at number nine. If

1149
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: you were going to move off from Tyrn Smith, I

1150
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: think it'll be in the twenty after twenty twenty one,

1151
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. It's a lot more manageable for

1152
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: you to go ahead and do it. But I don't

1153
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: see the Jones is moving off from Tyrn Smith. I

1154
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: just don't. That's that's just And I understand, Danny, You're right,

1155
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: backs do not get better. Is it something you look

1156
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: at it ten? Is it something you look at it ten?

1157
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: With the kid from Northwestern? Which lot? I mean, there

1158
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: are certain people who are saying do this, Danny. You're

1159
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: not alone, Okay, make sure to say, Danny, Danny mccraie

1160
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 1: is not crazy here. There are a lot of people.

1161
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: This is what should be done here. Okay. So so

1162
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: it's not some crazy idea. I've saw the great Ozzy

1163
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: Newsom do this. In Baltimore, where he selected Jonathan Ogden

1164
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: number four overall, he still had big Zeus Orlando Brown

1165
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: out there at left tackle. He put John to Ogden

1166
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: at guard and eventually the next season pushed him out

1167
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: to left tackle. He had a Hall of Fame career.

1168
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: So Danny, what you're saying is not something that hasn't

1169
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: been done. But at the same time, Ozzy didn't have

1170
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: a horrible defense like the Dallas Cowboys, and the Cowboys

1171
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: have a horrible, horrible defense here that at this point

1172
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: in time, if you commit these dollars to the left tackle,

1173
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: you're saying, McCarthy, I need you to score thirty eight

1174
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: a game, and then we're just gonna try and win

1175
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: these games. Thirty eight thirty six. I don't know that

1176
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: that's kind of much. One. My math is just a

1177
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: little different. Pay you pay him fourteen. If he on

1178
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: the roster, you lose eight if he's not. If you're

1179
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: not on the roster, you're saving six. You're picking the

1180
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: dude in the draft, and you're going to spend that

1181
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: money somewhere else for a guy who might not even

1182
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: be on the field for the entire season. If I'm

1183
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: doing my math right, I'm not paying a D fourteen

1184
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: when I can get rid of them for eight and

1185
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: put that other six somewhere. If I can't depend on

1186
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: him to be on the field for the entire season.

1187
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: That that's that's just the way my math is working out,

1188
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, we'll see how it happens. But

1189
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm not the Jones because I would have

1190
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: also paid that two years ago, so you know, we'll

1191
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: see how this goes. I mean that's when I used

1192
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: to work. But I used to do sports radio. I

1193
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: used to talk about how this these are the things.

1194
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: There's thoughts on what we would do, but then it's

1195
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: what the what the Jones family will do? You know,

1196
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: I would have you know, there are so many different

1197
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: things out well I would have done this, but but

1198
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm not the Joneses. And that's you know, where they're

1199
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: comfortable at. I mean, personally, one of the big problems

1200
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: that that I have is the restructuring, consistent restructuring they do,

1201
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: because the more you reach tructure these contracts means you

1202
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: push it down the line, and you keep pushing it

1203
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: down the line, and then you're just like, well, we'll

1204
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: pay it here at some point in time. So when

1205
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: they cut Dez Bryant, all that money hit right there.

1206
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: When they had to cut Tony Room, all that money hit.

1207
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: You know, if you stop doing a restructure and just

1208
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: all right, boom, we're gonna lock in here, We're just

1209
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna pay this money, and so when it comes down

1210
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: to let the guy go, you can say, hey, look

1211
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: we've paid all the bonus money. We're good. We can

1212
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: let the guy go. We don't have a major cap hit.

1213
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: These are issues. They still got to pay off the

1214
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick money on this year's salary cap because they

1215
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: broke it up over two years. So it does make

1216
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: it harder to say goodbye to people. And look, what's

1217
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: the one thing we've constantly seen with Jerry Jones as

1218
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: an owner. He likes to keep guys around. And you

1219
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: can say guys have stayed here probably a year or

1220
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: two years longer than they needed to be. I can

1221
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: say it about Flozell, I can say it about Jason Witten.

1222
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: I can say it right now about Sean Lee. Sean Lee.

1223
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: They're guys who end up you're like, oh this Tyrone Crawford.

1224
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they're guys here when you look at it

1225
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: and say, man, should dude have been going about a

1226
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: year ago and two years in New England, Bill Belichick

1227
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: would have got rid of them. Here, they get to

1228
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: stay around, and they stay around one or two years

1229
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: too long. So Danny, this may be a case with

1230
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith ends up being one of those guys that

1231
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: you end up keeping them maybe a year too long.

1232
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: And you could be right at the end of the

1233
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: seat that the twenty twenty one season, we could be said.

1234
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: You know what, Danny, you were right. You tried to

1235
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: tell us I couldn't be wrong, so I couldn't be wrong.

1236
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: He plays the entire season, I was wrong. If he

1237
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: plays the whole season, I'm wrong. I'm just going based

1238
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: off what happened in the last two years. I just

1239
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: have born, Yeahyborn in Atlanta Founder's game. I'm still seeing it.

1240
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm still seeing Clay Born in Atlanti Founder's game. I'm

1241
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: seeing I'm seeing the destruction that was called when Tyren

1242
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Smith wasn't able to play, and I'm seeing the destruction

1243
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: of the offensive line this year when we missed ELC

1244
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: and Tyren Smith again this season. Now, based on what

1245
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: you said, and this is me, Okay, if you want

1246
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: to go offensive line, then you need to sign Dak

1247
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: Prescott so you have available money and free agency and

1248
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: you can start to meet some of these defensive meets

1249
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: and you're making a different the coordinator change. I mean,

1250
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: all of this happened. I mean so much, because I mean,

1251
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, you just can't sit up here and say, hey,

1252
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna draft this left tackle and we we only

1253
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: go do a one year franchise deal with Dak and

1254
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: then Dak going I mean this, you know if this

1255
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: church right what I'm here right now, Manna Prescott, forty

1256
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: two mill We're gonna use our first round pick on

1257
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle? What what we acted like we got

1258
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: the eighty five Bears or the two thousand Ravens over

1259
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: there on the defensive side of the ball. Whenever, because

1260
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: he saved six some church save sixty. You saved six

1261
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: million dollars Church Church talking about by releasing Church, by

1262
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: releasing by releasing Tyres Smith, who you was gonna pay

1263
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: eight or fourteen, you're saying six because now your dead

1264
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: cap is eight, so you got six million dollars. You're

1265
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: picking the tackle in the first round. So then you go,

1266
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: you're saving some money right there, like he wanted to

1267
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: to get you somebody on defense versus pandi du fourteen

1268
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: million dollars and not having no money because you're still

1269
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: gonna pay Dad. I'm just saying, you saved me bread.

1270
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: You're talking about you want some we ain't paying back

1271
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: forty two, y'all, saint forty y'all putting a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure on Will pressure. That's not me, y'all, that's not me.

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Speaker 1: If that's him, this this tackle that we draft is

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Speaker 1: gonna be he might. What if he's a bust? Then

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Speaker 1: what all the fan? Man? That's all I'm to come

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Speaker 1: home Church. At the beginning of the show, you said,

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Speaker 1: you said, we can go out there with Andy Donalton

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01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show and fix up the defense.

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01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know he has he's calling the pistol.

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Speaker 1: The last week of the season. You're saying you want

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: to take us nickname you said, you can't believe you

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Speaker 1: call him for. We gotta get out of here. We

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Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. So let's let's end this

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Speaker 1: with these picks here, Okay, So let we go run

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Speaker 1: through these pics real quick, because it got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of games to get to Alabama eight point for against

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Speaker 1: Ohio State the National Championship game. D mack who you

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01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: got Alabama's school, Alabama and they don't cover. They went

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Speaker 1: by by four. So I'm gonna go something like thirty five,

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Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty one Ohio State, Ohio State thirty five,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State thirty five, Alabama twenty eight, alright, fighting justin Fields, Baby,

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Speaker 1: give me h Alabama forty one, Ohio State thirty one.

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01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Indie Buffalo, Buffalo six point favorite. D MAC.

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01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: I got Buffalo covering. I'm going thirty one twenty one.

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01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: M I got a old man, Philip Rivers. I got

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Speaker 1: old man Rivers is pulling an upset. I got Indie

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Speaker 1: thirty one, Buffalo twenty four, thirty one, twenty four, give

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Speaker 1: me Buffalo thirty two seventeen, all right, Rams three point

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Speaker 1: dog against Seattle. It's in Seattle, d Mac. I got

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Speaker 1: Seattle covering. I don't have any faith in Jared Golf,

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to go thirty one to seventeen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta I got Seattle on this one. Twenty four, fourteen,

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01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: twenty four fourteen Seattle four church, all right, give me

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Speaker 1: Seattle winning this bad boy here thirty four thirteen, all right,

1305
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay eight point favorite at Washington, d Mac easy,

1306
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: Tom Brady terrific Tom, and I got him winning by

1307
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: a close margin, though, because that defense is gonna show up.

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01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: I got him winning twenty seven I mean twenty one seventeen. Nah,

1309
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: not be man. I got Uncle Tom and the Boys

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Speaker 1: winning thirty eight fourteen. I think it's gonna be a blowout.

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Speaker 1: Thirty eight fourteen. All right, we're all going to Tampa

1312
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: Bay here. Give me Tampa Bay to win it. Twenty

1313
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: four two sixteen, all right. Baltimore at Tennessee. Baltimore three

1314
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: point favorites. Yes, Lamar Jackson finally gets that dub and

1315
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 1: they're going to win forty five to thirty eight, high

1316
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: score game. Derrick Henry still going for two hundred good time.

1317
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: Ain't no defense in that game. Okay. I got I

1318
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: got I got, I got Lamar getting the monkey office back. Man,

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: he finally beat in Tennessee. I got him. I got

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Speaker 1: him twenty four, I got a twenty four to seventeen.

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01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: All right, give me Baltimore to win a twenty seven

1322
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: twenty one game. Chicago ten point dog at New Orleans

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Speaker 1: d mac yep, New Orleans covers. I'm going thirty one

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01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 1: to ten, Yeah, Drew. Drew's a little bit too much

1325
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: for Chicago, I think. And it's not And it's not

1326
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Speaker 1: in Chicago, it's in New Orleans. So I'm going thirty

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Speaker 1: five seventeen, New Orleans. All right, give me Saints win

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01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: this one. Forty one thirteen Cleveland Pittsburgh. Cleveland's head coach

1329
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski not coaching in this game because of COVID

1330
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: Brown's had practice this week. Baker Mayfield said, won't have

1331
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: any differences. It won't make a difference at all this

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Speaker 1: football game. D mat, Yeah, I got Pittsburgh twenty four

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah, No, No, Stefanski on the sidelines. I

1334
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Speaker 1: don't I just don't see it. I mean, they made it.

1335
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: The Steelers made it close with Mason Rudolph in there

1336
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: last week. So for me, I think the Stellers go

1337
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: ahead and get this one done. I'm saying thirty one seventeen,

1338
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: there we go. Yeah, give me Pittsburgh to win this one. Uh,

1339
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go twenty seven to twenty seven fourteen and

1340
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: actually you know I'm gonna make us twenty seven twenty one,

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01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty one Steelers ended up getting this one.

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Speaker 1: All right, hell us, that's good stuff here. Hey, for

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam, our producer, we appreciate the heck out of

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1345
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,880
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