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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football. Good from fifty

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Speaker 1: seven yard Jock Lambo. It's set the team record for

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Speaker 1: conspecutive field goal. It is Thursday, October third, This is

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. And now a guy who was recently

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Speaker 1: traded but just won't leave. Jay Peace, the coach still works.

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Speaker 1: You were traded, check still clears. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick Tony was SELLI in the flesh. Thursday

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Speaker 1: that off Seattle is a long way from Jackson. You're

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Speaker 1: not doing Thursday that football, Jeff log him in out

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Speaker 1: this week. You're in glad to have you Leon Sarcy

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Speaker 1: with us as always. What's glad to be here. Always

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Speaker 1: feel very protected at this table today with you two

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Speaker 1: guys here. Get the books. Yeah that's what happened. Sorry, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Panthers Jaguars preview that will come up

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Speaker 1: Sunday one o'clock to kick off time Bank of American

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Speaker 1: Stadium in Charlotte, North Carolina. The teams are eerily similar

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Speaker 1: coming in containing McCaffrey huge key to the game. Of course,

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Speaker 1: can you contain him down. Minshumania continues for the Jaguars offense.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if Leonard for Net can keep it up

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Speaker 1: as well, and we'll go around the FC South and

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Speaker 1: the National Football Leage will pick Thursday Night football coming

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Speaker 1: up as well, a game that you're not doing tonight,

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Speaker 1: so you can will you always pick it anyway, but

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Speaker 1: you don't know who just not there. That's okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: this is these teams are really close to the same

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Speaker 1: won two in a row. The running games there all

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Speaker 1: basically than Panthers are number one in sacks. They have

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Speaker 1: eighteen sacks time for the league. They lead the league

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Speaker 1: in quarterback hits to Their running game has been going

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Speaker 1: pretty much all year because the Christian McCaffrey has been

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Speaker 1: Pop Warner Leon. I mean, you know one guy on

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Speaker 1: Pop Warner you always get the ball. Just follow him

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Speaker 1: gonna be. Um. But yeah, backup quarterbacks run game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's similar in a lot of areas. Yeah, it is,

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Speaker 1: especially at the quarterback play. Two young quarterbacks taking care

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game, we had nine sacks against the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, you're in trouble. Yeah, well it

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Speaker 1: and Dallas as a coordinator is you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: West Coast type of offense. Get the ball the quarterback's

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Speaker 1: that with Cam Newton. With Kyle Allen, he throws it

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Speaker 1: ball into his playmaker's hands. He's been very good the

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Speaker 1: first two weeks outside of the fumbles. So the kim

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Speaker 1: Cam is not healthy. I mean, this kid is healthy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like like Tony, you talked about it in

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Speaker 1: about efficienc in getting rid of the football and taking

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Speaker 1: care of the football. What you didn't do well, which

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Speaker 1: my play to our advantage this game. If we can

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Speaker 1: get up the field and get some strip sacks on us,

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Speaker 1: you know, if he's not, if he's not taking care

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Speaker 1: of the football as well. So I mean I might

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Speaker 1: play to our advantage. But the kid's been doing so

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Speaker 1: good so far, and the last two games he's got

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Speaker 1: over four yards knowing the steps, just got a couple

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Speaker 1: of turnovers. But you know, we gotta get after him.

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Speaker 1: But to your point JP about Cam Newton, cam Newton

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Speaker 1: is only effective. He can be Cam Newton the physical

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Speaker 1: football player. He's gonna be able to run. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Cam Newton can play the game from the pocket

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Speaker 1: like a traditional He's never been that. He wasn't not

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Speaker 1: in college. He's a freakish athlete. Um. And with the

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Speaker 1: foot sprain, I actually personally think, you know he's vegan

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Speaker 1: now lost some weight. We can all get that all,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, there's an article. There's a big article.

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Speaker 1: him being vegan and how the body doesn't he loves

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Speaker 1: well because of the lack of protein. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: same like even like body type. He looks slighter. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's injured, and so Cam Newton for them to play

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Speaker 1: the type of football with him, he has to be

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Speaker 1: with Kyle Allen. If you're gonna play this traditional sit

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Speaker 1: in the pocket, be efficient, be accurate, and uh, let

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Speaker 1: the offense run through your playmakers instead of running through

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton quarterback. That's gonna be an interesting That's the

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Speaker 1: same topic that we hope happens here. You hope this

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Speaker 1: team plays well and then you have the quarterback question

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Speaker 1: when everybody's healthy again. But Caroline is a little different

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Speaker 1: because it's been Cam's team for eight years or whatever

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Speaker 1: long he's been in the league. Now, well he's he's

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Speaker 1: the franchise guy. It's not it's different in the sense of,

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Speaker 1: you know, Nick Foles just got here. The organization paid

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Speaker 1: there's eleven plays of the Nick Foles era and the

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars history. There's eight or nine years of Cam Newton,

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, the face of that franchise. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: bet it's gonna be interesting. I mean, we'll see. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's not playing us this week, so we don't care.

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Speaker 1: But it'll be interesting to follow from a distance what

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Speaker 1: they do with Cam Newton and how long that injury

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Speaker 1: takes from the hell yeah, and and and here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: If Cam Newton is the franchise quarterback for the future. Uh,

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Speaker 1: sometimes as football players, you gotta protect us for ourselves.

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Speaker 1: And Cam's injury may take a little healer. Let the

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Speaker 1: young kid, if the young kids beneficient taking care of football,

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Speaker 1: and it's when you're a couple of games, let Cam

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Speaker 1: get that rest that he needs a rest, because if

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Speaker 1: you were rushing back and he comes back and he

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Speaker 1: re injures himself, then you know you don't want that,

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Speaker 1: especially if he's your franchise quarterback moving forward. We got

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Speaker 1: a touch on the jail. Ramsey think he's on the

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Speaker 1: injury port today. Did not practice again today with the

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Speaker 1: back issue, and Doug Maron said earlier this week it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be a day to day to see if

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Speaker 1: he's ready to go on Sunday. But as it would

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Speaker 1: stand right now, I don't think he's gonna go on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It just hasn't been on the practice field yet this week. Well,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been on the price for two weeks now.

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Speaker 1: Here's back I mean it, well, what are you gonna say?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing for us to say. He's not playing,

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Speaker 1: and all we know is that it's because of the back.

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Speaker 1: We don't know how the severity of it. We don't know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know what is the real issue with the back?

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Speaker 1: You know? Is it just muscle? Is there this? I mean,

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Speaker 1: we we have no idea, So to even speculate how

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Speaker 1: long this is gonna take is pointless in my opinion

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Speaker 1: and the way I look at it. He's not playing

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Speaker 1: this week, but I've seen that one. I would just

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Speaker 1: roll with Tray Herndon, go out and play. You played

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Speaker 1: with That's why they're playing. You know, you know you can't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the back is first of all, back,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to diagnose. You don't know what it is

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Speaker 1: lower limb. I don't know the specifics, doctor Cercy. But

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Speaker 1: there's so many factories. They into the back, you know,

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Speaker 1: the muscle, they help the glute. I don't know whether well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: my back has been hurt, hurt for eleven years. I

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Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, Yeah, you can only put you

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Speaker 1: can only go with the gas playing. Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: But how do you get a herd and coached up

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Speaker 1: and going how how you know it seemed like they

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Speaker 1: were picking on a little bit last week. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he had a couple of days. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair, and I think it's always dangerous

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Speaker 1: for us to make assumptions exactly who's at fault, because especially,

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Speaker 1: on one of the touchdowns, he's playing outside leverage, it's

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Speaker 1: it looked like he was clearly him. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: six seconds back, there was a long developing route. And

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Speaker 1: so you know, the thing that we do in the

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Speaker 1: media and the fans, we assume that Jalen Ramsey is

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Speaker 1: gonna make those plays that like it's all Trey Herndon. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll just remind everyone. On Thursday night, on a couple

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Speaker 1: Jalen side of the field. They went right at him,

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Speaker 1: and Corey Davis was making play and and so I'm

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Speaker 1: not like, obviously, I think Jalen is a better player

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Speaker 1: than Trey Herndon, and that's why he was starting. We

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Speaker 1: those plays. Well, let's figure out what the coverage is,

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Speaker 1: and that's accurate. But if Herndon's over there, roll the safety,

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Speaker 1: I'm just being rolled the same thing. He's gonna need

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Speaker 1: some help. I'm not disagree with you, you know what

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you. But you

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Speaker 1: Cappy Art, your Jaguars digital Update. I'm Ashland Sullivan, Jack

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey did not practice today and still unsure if

641
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: he will play on Sunday TVD on that with Friday's

642
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Speaker 1: injury report. One guy who did practice and is playing

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Speaker 1: well is our gardner minshow so much show that done

644
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: Ron well on Good Morning Football and congratulated him. This

645
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Speaker 1: way take for you to wear one of the Minshew

646
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: mustaches after a win? What would that take? You know?

647
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: So funny? Someone asked me that I can never grow

648
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: mustache because I couldn't never grow hair right here in

649
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: the middle. Um never. I tried to my senior year

650
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: in college. Didn't work well. It was too cheesy. Um,

651
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: you know what it's gonna take. If he keeps winning,

652
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Speaker 1: I'll wear whatever I have to wear. I'll start wearing

653
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Speaker 1: a mustache. And I know you got the team storts.

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00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Come on, you already got the jaworts. I gotta tell

655
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Speaker 1: you the other day, after the game is over, I'm

656
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: walking to do to press conference that I looked down

657
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Speaker 1: as a jock trap. I haven't seen a jockstrap on

658
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Speaker 1: the flooring. Who the hell jockstrap? And I'm like, oh

659
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: my god, is this that kid's Jockstrap. This is nasty

660
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: with someone for this thing away, you know crazy, that's

661
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Speaker 1: just starting quarterback Dugg. So I'll leave Leon, Tony and

662
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: JP to talk about that one with Dun Brown. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next on The Dune Room Show celebrating twenty five

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Speaker 1: years of Jaguars football. Touch Down X five James George

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Speaker 1: Spitt rushing touchdown of the Jaguars LE seven. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Jaguars Happy Hour. Here's your host, j P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: That's me, Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Tony Celluli on Searcy. I just said that they just

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Speaker 1: told you a good just making sure everybody knew you twice.

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Speaker 1: That's no one cares. Coming up a Dailies Place. Zach

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see Zach and Young Thu. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: do it. I've never been a Daily splace. I went to.

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Speaker 1: Oh you went to see young Man? How you go

676
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Speaker 1: see Young West? It was great. See your street crane

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Speaker 1: is up, it was awesome. Nowhere to go butt up.

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Speaker 1: But okay. At Young Wheezies concert, the base was so

679
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Speaker 1: strong it was shaking my insights. Really, Oh, it was

680
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Speaker 1: out of control. That's what I'm talking about. Young great show.

681
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't know it's coming up so young thug, but

682
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: I like those shows like Wheezy. I knew some of

683
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: the songs, obviously because he's been around longer. The shows.

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00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: It's just the show. The energy these guys have unbelievable,

685
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: out of control. I could picture you two guys on

686
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Speaker 1: one of the couches down there. Get some couches for

687
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: just I gotta remember that young thug problems. My kids

688
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: want to go, I'm not sure. Let's see, I've already

689
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: been bounced from the couch. I want you to go.

690
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm going. I don't want to go with my teenage

691
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: daughters the young thug. Okay, no, we don't do that well.

692
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Speaker 1: Figuring that you get a little tit, you get a

693
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I'm much rather go with you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: my girls, but not the young were during Ashley's update

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00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: there Doug Moron on Good Morning Football, and the menshu

696
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: mania is out there, of course, the drop strap stories

697
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: and the mustaches and the band, Dana's and the whole deal. Well,

698
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew himself was asked about it. How does he

699
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: compartmentalize the mania from the football. Yeah, I mean you

700
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: can't help but notice it, but you just try to.

701
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it's outside. You know, it's not

702
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: in this building and done have anything to do with

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Speaker 1: what we do out there. Um, So I just try

704
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: to keep it there and um you know, not not

705
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: worry about it on foot all the time. Yeah, once

706
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: football time comes, he seems to be pretty much locked

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Speaker 1: in here. Guys, Well, listen the guy, the composure he has,

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00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: his obvious from just watching him play football. We can

709
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: say that since the preseason has played out so far

710
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: this year, and so you would think that would carry

711
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: over to just his how he acts as a person.

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00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think much bothers this guy, and

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00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: he's been able to come, you know, handle the situation

714
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: very well, compartmentalized. Like you've said, you know, when did

715
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: worry about what? And this guy's about ball. He loves football.

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00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if you just go back to his story,

717
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: what he what he went through to play Division one

718
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: football and the path he took. I mean, you don't

719
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: take that path unless you love ball, and he loves ball,

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Speaker 1: so I think he's done a good job with it.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing is everything's going his way right now. Yeah,

722
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: and what will be what I'm fascinated to see And

723
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: I think I know the answer this, but you don't

724
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: know what happens when the adversity comes. Because adversity comes

725
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: to every team, every player. It's just part of the

726
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: NFL sixteen games, long season. And you saw a little

727
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: bit of it in this Bronco game when they started

728
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: really slow. He was four for ten, I think or

729
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: four for nine, and he handled that situation great, and

730
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Speaker 1: they get down and he handled the two minute drive

731
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: like a veteran guy. So each of these tests he

732
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Speaker 1: kind of overcomes. And I'm gonna ask dougno about this

733
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Speaker 1: when he comes in, is last year's team didn't overcome

734
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Speaker 1: adversity very well. This team and what they did against

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Speaker 1: the Broncos, the adversity they faced, being down seventeen three,

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Speaker 1: seventeen six going the halftime and they come back and

737
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Speaker 1: play the way they did was a great sign. And

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Speaker 1: it would be interesting to hear what's different and is

739
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: it because of how the quarterback handles himself because you

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Speaker 1: haven't had leon and I know about you, but this

741
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: is the first time in years that when we went

742
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Speaker 1: back on for the two minute drive, I actually thought like,

743
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna probably put us in field goal range. We're

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00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to win this. I even felt

745
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: like that in a long time. No, not exactly. I listened.

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Speaker 1: I was at the watch party last week when we

747
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: were watching the game. We got down, you know, seventeen

748
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Speaker 1: to six, came back in the third coil, and then

749
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: had that ten minute drive where we just took up all,

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Speaker 1: you know, just sucked up all the air out of

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos defense when we had the tim in

752
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Speaker 1: the drive, and then the Broncos went down and scored again.

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Speaker 1: And I remember the atmosphere inside that watch room was like, oh,

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00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: here we go again, because it was like he got

755
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: the same old jagualls can't finish the football game. And

756
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: I was sitting there, I was only I was the

757
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: only person of reasoning there. I was like, for whatever reason,

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00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: I just believe Gardener mishe was going to carry us

759
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: down to get us a field wal position with a

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00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: minute thirty two seconds, and he did it, and he

761
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: did that he made the necessary passes. He's stuck in

762
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: the pocket. He was getting hit all day, gave up

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00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: five secs of getting probably got hit twelve times during

764
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: the game, officially twelve times in the game. But whenever

765
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: that kid has I don't know what it is, called

766
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: a misshu madia, moxie, cockiness, confidence, whatever it is. But

767
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: he's just a ball He's just a baller right now.

768
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: He enjoys the game of football. The moment is never

769
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: too big for him, and he showed it last week.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I just I knew in my mind

771
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: he was gonna take us down there and get us

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Speaker 1: a field goal position to kick the winning score. And

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Speaker 1: the next test will be the diversity for him personally,

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00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: because he hasn't had it really yet where he's made

775
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: that throw where it's just awful, where it's just a

776
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: terrible pick. All quarterbacks do that, and how they rebound

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00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: from that, and so he hasn't had that yet, And

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00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't happen this week or the next week.

779
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: It never happens, but you know, sooner or later. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, the Peyton Mannings and Tom

781
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: Brady's they get they make they make mistakes and it's

782
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: how you respond. So he's past every test so far,

783
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: and for a rookie to do that is remarkable. I

784
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: can't think of a rookie quarterback like rookies at other positions. Frankly,

785
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: you can do that like workie offensive alignment. I mean,

786
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: both Ley and I did it. You go out there,

787
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: it's football like they're better. You go play and like

788
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: every other position is a little bit different, quarterbacks unique

789
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: because every play everyone's and you have the most responsibility.

790
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: You're leading the team in and out of the huddle,

791
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: You're making calls at the line of scrimmage. You're in

792
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: the pocket, defenseless, you're the only player that's not aggressively

793
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: trying to do something one on one to protect yourself

794
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: or go be physical. You're sitting there trusting other people.

795
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: So it's such a new, unique position and a lot

796
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: of times you guys struggle with that just from the

797
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: fact that being comfortable in the pocket and comfortable trusting

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Speaker 1: everything else. And he's natural at it. So it's it's

799
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Speaker 1: another thing is I've been in a lot of huddles,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been huddles with you know, Mark Bronell,

801
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: you as a quarterback. You've got to believe that the

802
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: guys in the huddle, the quarterback could lead you to

803
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: the promised Land. You know what I'm saying, You can't.

804
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: It's no faking that. When they say faking the phone,

805
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: you can't fake the phone. Like when Mark, we know

806
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: we know, because we know, we know. I listen. I

807
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: tell people that all everything I tell them. In where

808
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: we were in Denver in the playoffs against the Broncos

809
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: and we needed to drive to kind of seal the deal,

810
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Mark Mark Burke Whell comes in there and said, Okay,

811
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: as we've been here before, let's do it. That right

812
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: there sends a message to your whole the whole huddle

813
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: that we're going to get it done. And I don't

814
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: know what Gardener, miss she was saying in that huddle,

815
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: but whatever he's saying, he's those guys in that huddle

816
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: believe in him. Because I've been in some huddles where

817
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: guys talk to talk and them like man whatever, And

818
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: that's you know what I'm saying. I've been in Pittsburgh

819
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna saying that by his name, but

820
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, I wasn't the Huddle was a certain player

821
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: when he talked to talking and I'm like, okay, bro whatever, well,

822
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean we named names of the show. Okay, it

823
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: was o'donna. It was o'donna, it was o'donald. After he

824
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: threw the first pick, he threw the second pick. I

825
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear that, Mats. Okay, So so it

826
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: was Odonald in the Super Bowl. Okay, so all right,

827
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, guys know, but like Leon's right,

828
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: like Lee and I have been on the same model,

829
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: like you have the backup in there, like I remember

830
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: in nine Markets are Rob Johnson comes in like like okay,

831
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: we're good. Then he got hurt and Steve whatever Marshall

832
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: or whatever is that, Like he came in and we're

833
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: looking around like okay, we gotta play like better, like

834
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: we gotta do everything like skill guys like because it perfect.

835
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: He can't do it by himself. And you just see that.

836
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean nothing, acats Steve Matthews. He won the football

837
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: games for US. We beat the Giants with him. But

838
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: it's a different feeling when you sit as an offensive linement,

839
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: at least when you know the guy back there, like okay,

840
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: we're good. We're gonna play. He didn't take care of

841
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: his business compared to the other We're like, you better

842
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: do a little bit extra here. Confidence on the field

843
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Speaker 1: one thing. Uh, it's a little different for the play

844
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Speaker 1: caller too. Can the play caller trust the quarterback? John D.

845
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: Philippo thinks, so it's a fine line still, you know,

846
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: four games into his rookie season. Um, but he's earning

847
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: our trust. There's no doubt. And and you know, the

848
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: more he goes out there and and does the right

849
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Speaker 1: thing and and throws the ball on time accurately, uh,

850
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Speaker 1: and not turning the ball over, you can continue to

851
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Speaker 1: give a rookie more on his plate for sure. And

852
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Speaker 1: he went on later to talk about a situation where

853
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Speaker 1: I think on the long run they there was a

854
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Speaker 1: at the line. He made a check, basically killed one

855
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: of the plays. They had two plays in the line,

856
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: there was a look, they killed it, They went to

857
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: the run, went for the eighty one yarder, and it

858
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: seemed like he was very comfortable in that situation, just

859
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: calling plays and getting out of a situation. And if

860
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: the coordinator trusts that guy to do it, that's a

861
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: big thing. You know. Yeah, when Tony and I play

862
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: it was called what check with me? So the quarterback

863
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: he had two plays. It was a run play in

864
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Speaker 1: the past play and depending on what the defense gave you,

865
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Speaker 1: wherever the safety were a line or wherever they shifted

866
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Speaker 1: or whatever. The quarterback what it was initially was called

867
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Speaker 1: a pass and then he said check with me, Check

868
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: with me, and he'll make a run call. So that

869
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: seems to be what MISSU did in this situation where

870
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Speaker 1: he saw an opportunity to run the ball effectively, so

871
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: he checked to us. So that, you know, that's cool

872
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: those to him, I mean the kids. I mean, the

873
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: dude got a forty two on the wonder luck. Yeah,

874
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: I mean that's only one lesson I got. I mean,

875
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: so really you've trumped him, ye know. But um, I

876
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Speaker 1: mean the cats can't even barely the cats smart. Um.

877
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: His study habits are already known, I mean from training

878
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Speaker 1: camp of his comprehension of the playbook and what he's

879
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Speaker 1: able to absorb and then take from the me being

880
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: room to the field, and then the performance is just

881
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: adding to it. So I think what John D. Philippo

882
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: saying is like, yeah, like I'm not sure what they

883
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: trust him? Like a five year vet. But they're trusting him.

884
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: But he's done everything else, so they're giving him the

885
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: latitude to change plays at the line of scrimmage. You

886
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: don't give a lot of rookies that latitude the key

887
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Speaker 1: to the men. Don't give to me k keys to

888
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: the men. The other part of this thing, too, is

889
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Speaker 1: that you know, one of the knocks on him coming

890
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: in was his perceived lack of arm strength. Have you

891
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: seen that yet? Well, he's made all the throws so

892
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: far from what we've seen, and we haven't seen him

893
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: make every throw, like like the one on the last nievable.

894
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: He's throwing the outs and he's driving the ball I

895
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: think the only one and maybe we've seen it, but

896
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't come to mind anyone in particular throw is

897
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Speaker 1: the is the deep end the dig route that eighteen

898
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Speaker 1: yard in we have to drive it over the middle field,

899
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: And maybe he has. But he's throwing the deep balls.

900
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: He's throwing the over route. Uh, he's still on the

901
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: deep outs, he's still the comebacks, and there's plenty of

902
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: zip on him. But here's the thing. Anyone will tell you,

903
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: any quarterback will tell you arm strength is great, but

904
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: it's about knowing where they go with the ball he does.

905
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: It's about timing. He gets it out on time, and

906
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: it's about accuracy. He puts it on the numbers more

907
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: times than not. So you have those three things. Like,

908
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: let me tell you what. Drew Brees didn't have the

909
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: strongest arm. It's gotten stronger over the years. Peyton at

910
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: the end, Peyton Manning didn't have the strongest arm. Tom

911
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: Brady when he first game in the league, it didn't

912
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: have the strongest arm. He's built it up where it's stronger.

913
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: It's a good strong arm now and so but it's

914
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Speaker 1: the accuracy in the timing that's more important than anything,

915
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: and he has those things. Awesome, let's come back. We'll

916
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Speaker 1: go around the National Football the AFC South. We'll touch

917
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Speaker 1: on some big games in the division. This week, the

918
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Speaker 1: Jacks would be in the first place alone after this week.

919
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Speaker 1: In theory, we'll go through all the games the FC

920
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Speaker 1: South coming out to win first. Well, that's an important

921
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922
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Speaker 1: the Panthers coming up Sunday, Um and um, yes, no,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, No, what we're using? No, No, I gotta

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Speaker 1: I gotta make a note not to wash the TV

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Speaker 1: while I'm doing the radio, because it looks like I

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Speaker 1: got like tin cameras on there, like I'm swollowing on TV.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong? I look a little bigger than that should be.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean, well, I mean you've been in

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Speaker 1: the weight room, what are you talking about it? I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's talking about that exactly. Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you to you know what I'm saying. No, that's why,

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Speaker 1: you know what I did. I just pulled the shirt out.

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Speaker 1: I try to wear a bigger shirt. I'll try to

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Speaker 1: creases and I don't want to exactly welcome to our

1006
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Speaker 1: world on UM. That's what we have to deal with

1007
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Speaker 1: her on TV. It's feel better feel the Jackson feel

1008
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: pretty good about themselves. Are right down to and two records.

1009
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: We look at the ANFC South standings and of course

1010
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: across the board it's two and two all the way down.

1011
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: The Jags officially are in third in the division because

1012
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: of the division loss. Houston, Indy only have one game

1013
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: played they've won it um and then of course this

1014
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: week the games in the a f C South. You know,

1015
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: if you if you're an optimist, if your glass is

1016
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: half full, then you're thinking, hey, wait, wait a minute.

1017
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: The Jags, if everything goes right, they could be in

1018
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: first place alone. They're playing the Panthers, tough game, road game.

1019
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: Panthers are good, get that, but the Falcons could go

1020
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: into Houston and they could though could but they're not.

1021
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: But they could. I mean, I'll just sound like it's

1022
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's not like the Dolphins going into Hues.

1023
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what's gonna happened right here. The

1024
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: Jags are winning. I've already said that we're gonna be

1025
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: three and two. The Texans are winning, They're gonna beat

1026
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: the Falcons. They'll be three and two. Okay, the Bills

1027
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: are at the Titans. I like the Titans in this game.

1028
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: I the Titans are gonna be three and two, and

1029
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: the Culture gonna lose to the Chiefs. There'll be two.

1030
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: And that's how it's gonna work. Outs were going to

1031
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Speaker 1: get work. Yeah, that's it. So we'll be tied for

1032
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: first still at three and two, which is fine. Um,

1033
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Speaker 1: I don't really care what the other teams do right

1034
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Speaker 1: now because it's such a long, uh season. We're gonna

1035
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Speaker 1: play them all. We're gonna play the Colts twice. Go

1036
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: win all the division games. You're gonna win, and you're

1037
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Speaker 1: gonna be in perfect position at the end of the season. Yeah,

1038
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, I guess our division we got

1039
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Speaker 1: a punch of chance against any of them. We should

1040
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Speaker 1: have beat the Texans. We beat the Titans, Yeah, then

1041
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Speaker 1: we we gotta. We can beat the Coats and go

1042
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Speaker 1: from there. See what happens. You don't think the Falcons

1043
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Speaker 1: can go beat these They still got they still got

1044
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Speaker 1: receivers at a quarterback. Did you watch last receivers and

1045
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks not be on the get in the end zone?

1046
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Speaker 1: That Ryan's like the worst red zone quarterback in the

1047
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Speaker 1: last two years. And their offenses on strike whatever reason,

1048
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Speaker 1: points strike, they get yards. So the Colts don't have

1049
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: a chance in Cana Sunday Night football. Now, the Bills

1050
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: can beat the Titans. But I just I like the

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Speaker 1: Titans in that game. Back. Yeah, he's a good player,

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00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: good player, plays nasty. He would have fit in with

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00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: our group, good player with your group. He's a tough player,

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00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: he plays physical. I like him, I really do. I

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Speaker 1: hate I mean, I hate the Titans, but I like

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Speaker 1: the one. I mean, you watch football, watch how the

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Speaker 1: kid plays. He's a good football player. Let's touch on

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00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: a couple of topics around the league. Vante's berfix suspended

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00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: the rest of the season for hit Sunday on the

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00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: Occults tight end Jack Doyle, but it was the patitive behavior,

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00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: the reason behind that suspension. He went to England with

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00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: the team because the Raiders flew right after the game,

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00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: but he had to fly back. The appeals coming tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Derek Brooks will hear the appeal. He's jointly appointed by

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Speaker 1: the league and the players Association. Well this stand up,

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Speaker 1: do you think? No? I don't think they're gonna give

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Speaker 1: him the rest of the year. I think Derek Brooks

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00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: will listen to the people, probably come back with like

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00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: eight games, maybe ten, and this will be I think

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00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: what they're gonna say is like, listen, this is it.

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Speaker 1: You get suspended again. It's gonna be it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: sixteen games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's on this last layer.

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Speaker 1: But I think Derek Brooks will come back and reduced

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00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: it a few games. That's typically what happens in these situations.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he got suspended for the season because

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Speaker 1: of his resume. That's a lot to do with all

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Speaker 1: the stuff that he had done before. It was the

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00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: first time offender. No, he would have had something. But

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Speaker 1: he'll probably getting reduced. He probably getting reduced to six

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00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: to eight games. But if he does anything else after this,

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00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: he'll probably get suspended for a year, so we're not

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00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: hearing it until Tuesday. That's right. You know, it should

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00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: be like baseball, though, if you appeal it, you should

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00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: be able to play while you appeel it, because what

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00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: if they come back and say, we're not gonna supend

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00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: you for any game, which isn't gonna happen, but you

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00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: should be all the uh, if the appeal is going on,

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00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: should be able to play or force the NFL. Here

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Speaker 1: it quicker, right, let's I agree with it. I agree

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Speaker 1: with that point of it. Appeal Like if you get

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Speaker 1: so he does he lose a check? Is the question? Yeah?

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00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: Oh he loses a check? Yeah? Oh no, that can't

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00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: work like that. You should be gold play and then

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00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: they make the decision afterwards. But now he gotta lose

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00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: a check. I can't mess with a man in his money.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals owner Bill Bidwell passed away. He was eighty eight

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Speaker 1: years old. He became the sole owner of the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two. Most famous uh in St. Louis

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Speaker 1: for moving the Cardinals from St. Louis, Arizona. Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: a long time, you know, he had such a bad

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Speaker 1: reputation as an owner but you look what he's done

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Speaker 1: in Arizona and kind of the success they've had, and

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Speaker 1: it seems like a good franchise and stable and and

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Speaker 1: I think his son, Michael Bidwell runs the team now,

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Speaker 1: uh and that has for a while. So thoughts prayers

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Speaker 1: out to the Bidwell family and a long time uh

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Speaker 1: uh leader in the NFL passed away new stadium a

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00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: few years ago, a bunch of Super Bowls. Yeah, I think.

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00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an old stadium and the new one.

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00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: You got the reputation forever. It was such a bad

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: franchise when they moved, but it seems like things change

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Speaker 1: once they got the Arizona Alright, Thursday night football tonight,

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Speaker 1: the Rams at three and one and the Seahawks at

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00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: three and one. No dramatic intro like on Monday Night.

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: There's no music. There's no not just no music, you know,

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00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: it's just it's the Los Angeles Rams. Are they real

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Speaker 1: or not? We'll find out tonight in the noise of

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Speaker 1: Century Link Field of Seattle, Washington. The Emberald City, sure,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're called. Seattle's the Emerald City, the three

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Speaker 1: and one Seattle Seahawks away to help you. You got

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Speaker 1: I just did it off the cuff. You get to

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Speaker 1: the Emerald City and there have been like some dramatic

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Speaker 1: pause possible. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go Seattle

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00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: because I think that RAMS defense has issues. It's a

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Speaker 1: tough place to play, and Russell Wilson's playing the best

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Speaker 1: football of his career right now. A hundred and eighteen

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00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: passer raider pretty good. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: the Rams was two in a row, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say the find a way to win? What do you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the twelfth Man in this way. Rex,

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00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: you say, Russell wist was playing something this best football

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00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: and golf is struggling. He's struggling. How in the heck

1133
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: did they give up fifty five last week the Tampa

1134
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: Bay ball They had a defensive touchdown that's one one,

1135
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: it's six points. I think they had a couple of

1136
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: golf through like three picks and had two fumbles. Something terrible.

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00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: Was a disaster. The whole thing with short fields and

1138
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: old deal. They might be reconsidering that extension. He just said,

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Speaker 1: you can't mess with the man's money. I'm just saying, listen,

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Speaker 1: What happened changed that quick On the other side, depends

1141
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: on the situation. You went the management side real quick.

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Speaker 1: Jack's Panthers coming up. You guys, feel good about this game.

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Speaker 1: I told you I locked it twenty seventeen the bank,

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Speaker 1: three and two seventeen, Okay, I got Jaguars like that.

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Speaker 1: Three and two coming back to for the New Orleans

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Speaker 1: Saints in two weeks now. Leen, we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. You got it well, un serasi with us, Tony,

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Speaker 1: You and I are back in the The Doug Brone

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Speaker 1: Show is right around the corner of the head. Coach

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Speaker 1: will join us for the next half hour on the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio Network. Thanks to our entire crew, and thank

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Speaker 1: you for watching and listening to Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network.