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Speaker 1: Hell No, Welcome to the Nordy but nice.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Rob Shooter and it's Thursday, which means

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Speaker 2: our dear friend Mark Lupo joins us.

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Speaker 1: Hey Lupy, are you there.

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Love?

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Speaker 2: It makes me so happy. It's such a cool name,

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Speaker 2: but it's so you. It's such a loopy lou messy.

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Speaker 2: But you're very organized. That's the contradiction with you, Mark,

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Speaker 2: You're the most organized person I know, but still there's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of sloppiness around you.

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Speaker 3: Very messy, very very I.

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Speaker 2: Like a messy talking about messy. I have the Covida.

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Speaker 3: I think I do too.

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Speaker 2: I have I have COVID. It's unbelievable. I got it

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Speaker 2: at Elvis Durand's birthday party. It was a super spreading event.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Elvis. I hope you're listening, Love.

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Speaker 2: It was a great party. We all went out to

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Speaker 2: Staten Island. I've never been, so we went to Staten

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Speaker 2: had to get there early and we're drinking and loads

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Speaker 2: of people there from iHeart who loved the podcast. My

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Speaker 2: boss was there, Hello, love Alau. I saw you, I know,

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Speaker 2: thankfully Mark. I went to the bathroom and there's this

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Speaker 2: a wait, and so we started to chat away check Chat,

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Speaker 2: chick chat, lovely, lovely. I had such a good laugh,

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Speaker 2: went into the loop washing the hands, came out. She

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Speaker 2: was the Bossy's girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: Everybody there was like Robshody you knew that and honestly didn't.

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Speaker 2: So I'd made the best friend of the night and

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Speaker 2: it was the boss's girlfriend. So all night I hung

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Speaker 2: out at the boss's table. It was fabulous.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this podcast is going to be on for

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Speaker 3: many more years now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we're not going to go any there. But

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Speaker 2: I've probably given you COVID too, I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: didn't have COVID before the evening, so I'm not there

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Speaker 2: or which sounds terrible, doesn't It? Like we try to

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Speaker 2: identify who we'll never know because so many people have

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Speaker 2: come down with it. I was sick for a couple

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Speaker 2: so I've been sneezing a bit but I'm fully vaccinated.

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness. Honestly, medicine is amazing. Listen to your doctors.

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Speaker 2: And then I took a COVID test. Pop boom, there

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Speaker 2: I am. I got the little blue line. I've got

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Speaker 2: the COVID and my doctor gave me some antibiotics and

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Speaker 2: actually feel like eighty percent to day. I feel a

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Speaker 2: little bit on but I don't feel sick. What about you, Mark,

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Speaker 2: you seem a little same thing.

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Speaker 4: I started feeling the head cold Garner and I have it,

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Speaker 4: Tom and I just I mean, it's not terrible in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got it. If you need some pills, let me know.

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Speaker 2: No, I'll call me doctor. That's great, my doctor, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: doctor Nolan. Okay, let's jump into the show. What time

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Speaker 2: is it, my friends? It is tea time. All this

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Speaker 2: story's messy, Mark, it's the type of story that we

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Speaker 2: really enjoy here on the Naughty Button Show. So Simone Biles,

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Speaker 2: who is just a hero. Have you been watching her?

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Speaker 4: And oh, she's amazing.

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Speaker 2: The things she can do with her body's amazing. And

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Speaker 2: she's twenty seven, which is really a baby. But in

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Speaker 2: Well in any case, she posted after her team one

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Speaker 2: gold quote lack of talent, lazy Olympic champions. Now what

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Speaker 2: Now I think I was right. I just couldn't say it,

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Speaker 4: It makes you look like a bitter hater anything. For Mikaela,

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Speaker 3: You, and it does not look cute.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look cute, does it. It's like if I

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Speaker 2: I've had to really learn this lesson mark, because it's

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Speaker 2: academically in your mind. However, to say this outright and

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Speaker 2: And calling people lazy or no talent lack of talent

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Speaker 4: him because it's not about me. It's about your projecting,

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Speaker 4: your own insecurities, your own failures. The rest of us

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's passed, This isn't it. I've had it

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Speaker 2: A manager there said awful things about me, and they.

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Speaker 1: All happen to be true.

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Speaker 2: However, however, he looked like a fool, not me, because

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Speaker 2: whole question of the day. Simone Biles is firing back.

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Speaker 2: He had former teammate Mikayla Skinner a question simple, Is

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Speaker 2: ignore it, to be honest, to be honest. If Simone

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about Kaitlyn Jenner. So, Kaitlyn Jenner has attended

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Speaker 4: her granddaughter's Honey's first birthday party after Brodie's parenting disc

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Speaker 4: Let me explain what's happening here? So, Kaitlyn Jenner joined

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Speaker 4: a celebration for her granddaughter, Honey's first birthday party, marking

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Speaker 4: a reunion despite past tensions now. The backyard party, which

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Speaker 4: Linda Thompson coming together to support Brodie Jenner and his

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Speaker 4: Brodie made headlines for expressing his desire to raise his

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Speaker 4: pretty I'm not so prize of the story because Brody's

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Speaker 1: What do you think Kitlyn's been a terrible parent?

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Speaker 2: What I'd love to believe here is that Caitlin has

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Speaker 2: I've seen this in families. Sometimes people that were not

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Speaker 2: I think that there's some hope here. It'd be lovely

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice Shore. I'm your

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Speaker 4: Oh, the Megan Markles new lifestyle shows have to air

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Speaker 1: I can't wait it's coming.

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Speaker 1: Mark? I wanted to give it the benefit of the boring.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do a screening party at your fabulous flat.

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Speaker 1: In the garage, fixing the car and a fucking Harry.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and it's end with her moment. Rob get a rub,

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Speaker 2: Your self worth is determined by you. You don't have

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Speaker 2: Decide today who you are. That's the only thing that matters.

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Speaker 2: Your self worth has to be determined by you, not

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Speaker 1: Thank you so.

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Speaker 2: Much for listening to the Naughty but Nice with Rob

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Speaker 2: and Mark. Shall I feel like with the hospital addition

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Speaker 2: today Mark coughing and will be fine. We'll be fine,

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Speaker 2: honestly texting me a Mark if you I want to

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