WEBVTT - RHOBH Reunion Recap: Vindicated and It Feels So Good

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings.

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<v Speaker 2>The King of Reality TV and one of the most sought.

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<v Speaker 1>After executive producers in reality television with over ten years

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<v Speaker 1>a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,

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<v Speaker 1>recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that

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<v Speaker 1>we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain Drops,

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<v Speaker 1>on today's episode Reality with the King. First of all, Carlos.

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<v Speaker 2>King is vindicated. I am vindicated.

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<v Speaker 1>Gays, girls days and guys, Okay, I feel good about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get into that later. But Carlos King is vindicated,

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<v Speaker 1>and rain Drops, thank you for always supporting me and

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<v Speaker 1>for always having my back. But on this episode, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>has my front. She is a former Real housewife of

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<v Speaker 1>Toronto who also lives in Beverly Hills. She's married to

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<v Speaker 1>a very handsome fertility doctor and together they have this

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<v Speaker 1>amazing fertility app called Anna. So give it up for

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<v Speaker 1>the beautiful woman who I got a chance to meet

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<v Speaker 1>at Kathy Hilton's Christmas party and we had a good

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<v Speaker 1>time and I'm so happy she is making her Reality

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<v Speaker 1>with the King debut. Give it up for Roxy.

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<v Speaker 3>What an intro can not be like my new bio.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Tata, you could take this and put it and

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<v Speaker 1>pin it to your Instagram feed and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>have chat GPT insert it in your profile bio.

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<v Speaker 3>I will do all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Carlos, how are you, baby doll?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me? This is so fun. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm first of all, loved the show last night, like obsessed,

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<v Speaker 3>love this intro. Yes, I like the husband's like I

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<v Speaker 3>used to call him the hot baby doctor, so I

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<v Speaker 3>like that. You're like, she is a hot fertility doctor

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<v Speaker 3>USB and that's right, you can do I call him

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<v Speaker 3>hot baby doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've met him at the party too. He's so handsome.

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<v Speaker 1>But talk to me about your app and is claw

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<v Speaker 1>on a is a fertility app?

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<v Speaker 2>So I explained that to us. And how you came

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<v Speaker 2>up with this? Well, I have.

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<v Speaker 3>This amazing husband who's a fertility doctor. But if I didn't,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have myself kind of gone on to do

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<v Speaker 3>fertility treatments that I didn't need to do. I was

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<v Speaker 3>told I needed IVF by two doctors in California, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I just so happened to fall in love with

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<v Speaker 3>a fertility doctor and he's like, why do you think

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<v Speaker 3>you need IVF? And I was like, well that was

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<v Speaker 3>what I was told and it's just such a big

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<v Speaker 3>industry IVF. And so when we wanted to get pregnant,

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<v Speaker 3>my husband put me on a program where he managed

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<v Speaker 3>my supplements. He managed helped me manage my inflammation, changed,

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<v Speaker 3>my fitness changed, my mindset changed, like some of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that I I was taking, and lo and behold,

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<v Speaker 3>the program worked. We started tracking the ovulation properly, because

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<v Speaker 3>most trackers are not accurate. Ours is and we started

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<v Speaker 3>tracking and doing everything properly, and I got pregnant at

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<v Speaker 3>thirty eight, and then I got pregnant again at thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>And people were so interested in this that we turned

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<v Speaker 3>that program into our app called Anna. And in Ana,

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<v Speaker 3>you can follow our whole program. It takes you through

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<v Speaker 3>everything you need to do to help you get pregnant

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<v Speaker 3>at home. It can even send you the supplements that

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<v Speaker 3>you need. It recommends what you need if you need

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of fertility drugs that you can take

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<v Speaker 3>it home. You can even chat with Arnold right in

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<v Speaker 3>the app. And like, that's a big deal because not

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<v Speaker 3>everyone can come to Beverly Hills and see this fancy

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<v Speaker 3>celebrity doctor, but here you have access to him right

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<v Speaker 3>in the app. And so it's amazing, and it's born

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<v Speaker 3>out of our own journey to try and help women

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<v Speaker 3>get pregnant. So everyone's seen my whole life unfold.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not know.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything about my journey to fertility and all all of

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<v Speaker 3>that as well. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's amazing because I have a lot of listeners

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<v Speaker 1>who are trying to get pregnant, whether there are same

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<v Speaker 1>sex couples or women in general or women.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a particular age.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is really amazing because I'm vegan and I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe that health is wealth, and I believe that food,

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<v Speaker 1>heels and taking the proper supplements for your body type

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<v Speaker 1>and your blood type can be able to, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of things, even inflammation. I know you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that before. So that's really amazing. So we can

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<v Speaker 1>get this app like at the app store on our phones, right, Yes, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Type in on a Fertility his websites doctor Arnold. You

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<v Speaker 3>can just put into Google. But yeah, on a Fertility

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<v Speaker 3>in the app store. And it's amazing because it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>just such a I just want listeners to know this

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<v Speaker 3>one thing. Fertility clinics are a business. And so you

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<v Speaker 3>walk into a bakery, you're going to be sold bread,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. You walk into a fertility clinic, next thing

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're being sold ivy app. And it's expensive

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<v Speaker 3>and it's costly, and for the people who need it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an miracle, and we treat them every day here

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<v Speaker 3>at our clinic and Beverly Hills. But for the there's

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<v Speaker 3>so many women who don't need to go through all

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<v Speaker 3>of this, who are otherwise doing it because they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have an you know, no one tells them about this

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<v Speaker 3>in between option. Let's manage your inflammation, let's manage your supplements,

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<v Speaker 3>let's track your cycle propertly. Let's get to the root cause.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think it's really beautiful that we've created

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<v Speaker 3>something you can try and help people. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for the gays, we love the gays, they're here out

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<v Speaker 3>every day. We help, we help same sex couples get pregnant,

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<v Speaker 3>we love men having babies, and we have a big

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<v Speaker 3>third party, you know, part of our business to help

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<v Speaker 3>with the surrogates and stuff like that. So we're just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to help all families try to have babies because

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<v Speaker 3>we have two babies ourselves and we love it so much.

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<v Speaker 3>We just want to spread that love to the world. Carlos, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that love.

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<v Speaker 1>As a guy, well, I gotta find you know, Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm single, so I gotta find no problem. Well, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>does your fertility app also help me find a man?

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<v Speaker 3>Single father by choice? It's okay? Oh yes, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I don't just say, Carlos, if you need one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we know how to do.

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<v Speaker 3>We know how to make babies for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for that, my sister. Okay, I'll listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But I definitely would download the app anyway, because you

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<v Speaker 1>never know how this crazy world we live in changes,

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<v Speaker 1>and not only this crazy world, but the crazy world

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<v Speaker 1>of Beverly Hills too, because you and I are going

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<v Speaker 1>to recap part one of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so happy to talk to you about this

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<v Speaker 1>because you are literally a real housewife who lives in

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 2>So, girlfriend, why aren't you on this show?

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<v Speaker 3>Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>I live like.

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<v Speaker 3>Right in Beverly Hills, Like I can walk to Beverly

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<v Speaker 3>Hills Hotel. It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need to be on this show, girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. When I got to LA, because I was on

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<v Speaker 3>the Real House as a Toronto. When I got to LA,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone was like, oh my gosh, are you joining the

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<v Speaker 3>Real Houseies of Beverly Hills. And I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not. But it was funny that so many people,

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<v Speaker 3>like in the business and stuff told me everything about

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<v Speaker 3>the Wives. Everyone is just like, oh, because you're on

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<v Speaker 3>the Housewives. They just started telling me all these things

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<v Speaker 3>about the show and about the Wives. And it's so

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<v Speaker 3>funny because, like I very quickly realized, this is this

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<v Speaker 3>is this is Kyle's territory, This is Kyle's show. Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>is the Queen of Beverly Hills. Why you say that, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just say she's the boss. Like she's the boss

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<v Speaker 3>of the Real House Loves of Beverly Hills. There's there's

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's Andy, and there's Kyle. In a good way.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Kyle.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all here for her being the boss. This is

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<v Speaker 3>her show though.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's like Tony Danza and who's the boss? Like

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<v Speaker 1>Alissa Balana.

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<v Speaker 2>I was making a guess of parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me explain this. You see how like Sutton's all

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<v Speaker 3>as you can see, you can see that Sutton is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of you know what Carcel said, Sutton's watching her

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<v Speaker 3>words around Kyle, always trying to kind of make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that she's pleasing Kyle. And just the truth is is

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<v Speaker 3>that Kyle Sutton's boss. It's not that's not a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just the truth. Need some water after that. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, tell the rain drops of suns followers not

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<v Speaker 3>to come for me. I love something.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh honey, the slutters came for me, girl, The sluts

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<v Speaker 1>came for me for three years. But listen, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>vindicated because based on this episode, I'm gonna go back

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<v Speaker 1>when I say what happened towards the end, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>so evident that based on part one reunion, Garcela doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like any of these women, including Sutton. They're not friends.

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<v Speaker 1>The alliance is gone. Everybody owes me an apology. Who

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<v Speaker 1>tried to put me in a corner like I'm babing

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<v Speaker 1>dirty dancing because I had an opinion that turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fact. Because I know this is a

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<v Speaker 1>big of by my podcast and why people love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming as a biased supporter. I'm coming as

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<v Speaker 1>a reality TV executive who works with networks, who understands

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<v Speaker 1>how the sausage is made, and I understand human behavior

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<v Speaker 1>as relates only to reality stars. I don't talk about politics,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't talk about science, I don't talk about fertility.

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about reality TV because I know what the fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said for three years gar selling Sutton's alliance

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<v Speaker 1>is an alliance. It's not a friendship. And we saw

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<v Speaker 1>that happen in this episode. And I feel good that

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<v Speaker 1>the world is now saying, oh, my god's carl of

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<v Speaker 1>us right, Because in Beverly Hills, where you live, and

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<v Speaker 1>you even said that this show belongs to Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody in Beverly.

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<v Speaker 1>Hills to me, and I'd love to get your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this, they have to kiss the ring because that,

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<v Speaker 1>to me is just sort of the Beverly Hale's culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the culture of this particular show. Instead of

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<v Speaker 1>Cash is king, Kyle is queen.

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle is the Queen. Kyle is the boss. Everyone must

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that the boss is happy, otherwise you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get your ass kicked off that show. But I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here for because I love Kyle. It's been her

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<v Speaker 3>show for how many years, seventeen years or something. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many seasons. It's been fourteen seasons, like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember, getting them all mixed up in my head.

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<v Speaker 3>But she's the queen of the show. She's I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if she's she's certainly a queen. I mean she's

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<v Speaker 3>a queen and people must bow down and respectfully, so

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<v Speaker 3>like she's made an entire franchise. That franchise has made

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<v Speaker 3>many other franchises, So respectfully, show respect where respects do.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't come on the show and go pissing off Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>and Son's like, I'm not losing my job. I like

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<v Speaker 3>this job. I want to sell my cashmere, and so

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<v Speaker 3>of the boss and then Garcellas like I'm fucking doing

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<v Speaker 3>my show. I felt like I'm producing my movies. Lifetime's

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<v Speaker 3>got a contract with me, bitch as I'm out of here,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm just gonna say my piece on my way out.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what happened. So the episode kicks off

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<v Speaker 1>ROXY with Pee k releasing a statement that I felt

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<v Speaker 1>was a novel written by is it Joe Collins?

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<v Speaker 2>Or Jackie Collins. I get them confused, but it's the

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<v Speaker 2>novelist system. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was asked to come to the reunion. He

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<v Speaker 1>turned down the opportunity. In his statement, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to read the entire thing because it would take up

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes of this episode, honey, and we have so

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<v Speaker 1>much ground to cover. But I'm paraphrasing as he said

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<v Speaker 1>in this letter that he does not recognize who Dary

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<v Speaker 1>is anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not the woman he married.

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<v Speaker 1>The statement she made about him being a bad father

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<v Speaker 1>was not okay, and that if he was at the reunion,

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<v Speaker 1>him and de Ret would have a dialogue that was

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<v Speaker 1>not going.

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<v Speaker 2>To be pleasing to their situation.

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<v Speaker 1>When you saw this statement, how do you feel roxy

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<v Speaker 1>about PK not showing up?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, that is not not showing up. Not

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<v Speaker 3>showing up as like politely declining Bravo, sitting at home

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<v Speaker 3>and keeping your mouth shut. This was showing up. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just showing up in a really cowardly way. It's like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to just send in this like perfectly crafted

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<v Speaker 3>nasty letter about Drey let it be said, and then

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<v Speaker 3>not be there to like have to hear her response,

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<v Speaker 3>and the fact that she had to hear that live.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm at a breath literally dying. I'm not literally losing

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<v Speaker 3>my breath, because that's a world is imagine hearing that

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<v Speaker 3>you're going through this nasty separation divorce, and then that

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<v Speaker 3>gets read to you in front of all these women

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<v Speaker 3>right at the reunion live from Bravo, I mean, right

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<v Speaker 3>from Andy. Oh my gosh, horrible, disgusting. I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>how nasty things are. That's showing up, just showing up

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<v Speaker 3>in a weird way. Not a vibe. PK, not my vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't kill my vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't go Am and Marisio can go like make

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<v Speaker 3>out with girls on the beach and the visa or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever they're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh dear, oh dear, okay, chow, we are just

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<v Speaker 1>getting started. This is reality with the King, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's the thing. This is a messy, complicated part

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<v Speaker 3>of the show. But we can't have it both ways

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<v Speaker 3>as fans. We can't ask these women to be uninhibited

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<v Speaker 3>and speak openly about their lives and then have them

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<v Speaker 3>be so edited that how they feel they have to

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<v Speaker 3>like watch every word. If she feels he's an alcoholic,

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<v Speaker 3>that's her experience, maybe you know. And so I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we diminish her experience as a mother and wife

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<v Speaker 3>when we like ask her not to use certain labels.

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<v Speaker 3>That's her opinion. That might be what was going on

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<v Speaker 3>in her injury. Tome and her in PK's home and

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<v Speaker 3>when they went and met for like dinner or lunch

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<v Speaker 3>in one of the scenes, he talked about it openly.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't understand why everyone was like, don't use

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<v Speaker 3>that label. That's her experience. We don't know what's gone

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<v Speaker 3>on in that marriage. But what we can't do is

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<v Speaker 3>we can't ask them to be open and free and

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<v Speaker 3>like just uninhibited when they talk to us, and then

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<v Speaker 3>also ask them to be perfect with every word and

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<v Speaker 3>edit everything you say. That's her experience, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to take that away from her. Having dealt with

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who's had substance abuse issues in a relationship before,

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<v Speaker 3>in a past relationship, I can tell you I labeled

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<v Speaker 3>them that before they labeled themselves that, and that's sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, you raised good points, because one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing that I want all my reality stars to do

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<v Speaker 1>is to have the ability to be themselves and to

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<v Speaker 1>be uncensored.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so listen, I'm not here to read the rea

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<v Speaker 2>for that. I will listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I still feel the same way that that's his story

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<v Speaker 1>to tell, dealing with people in my family that has

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<v Speaker 1>so variety issues.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I still feel I wish there was more compassion,

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<v Speaker 1>only because your husband did say he did not like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you say it was a bad dad

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<v Speaker 1>and look.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 1>Are different things, agree, but I was going someplace, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is this, you call him a bad dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and on the after show, Durite says she regrets it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I appreciated that, But then to add insult to injury,

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<v Speaker 1>you double down on pretty much revealing that PK allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly is still drinking, and then to have to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the after effects of that. So it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where for me, Roxy, I'm like, yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>your reality, but did we not learn from our mistake

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<v Speaker 1>the first time?

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing though, like we don't get to just

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<v Speaker 3>show the highlight, right, we go on the show. We

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<v Speaker 3>show off the parties where we've got rock stars singing

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<v Speaker 3>in our living room with PK and Durie and he's

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<v Speaker 3>gifting her all the chanel and he's got what the

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<v Speaker 3>what is the guy's name who's always on the show

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<v Speaker 3>with him, the singer.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy George Honey.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry boy, George, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Legend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes George, Like we get it. You no famous people.

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<v Speaker 3>They come to your living room, they sing, you live

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<v Speaker 3>the high life, you show it all. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>opposite side of their life. And it's not fair to

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<v Speaker 3>show viewers just the good and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>when it gets bad, say, we're gonna pick and choose

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<v Speaker 3>what parts of our life we show. This is what

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<v Speaker 3>you sign up for when you do the show, the good,

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<v Speaker 3>the bad, and the ugly. And things have gotten ugly,

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<v Speaker 3>and unfortunately in most cases, I have not only compassion

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<v Speaker 3>for the situation. People deserve their privacy. But that's their job.

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<v Speaker 3>This is her job, this is his job. They got

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<v Speaker 3>paid for this, like, this is the job to show

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<v Speaker 3>when life gets ugly. We are watching people's lives. We

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<v Speaker 3>are not watching a movie. We signed up to watch

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<v Speaker 3>your life. And when your life gets ugly, guess what

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<v Speaker 3>we like watching too. It's gross, it's weird, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>what it is we like watching. You can't then just

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<v Speaker 3>say I don't want to show up for now, I refuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, honey, you are preaching to the choir because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel the exact same way, which leads me to Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>So the topic of Morgan was brought up.

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<v Speaker 1>In this part one reunion, and Kyle pretty much was

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<v Speaker 1>laser focused on Garseel because she said a Morgan did

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<v Speaker 1>not want to be talked about on the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle was respecting her wishes, which I'm like, I called

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<v Speaker 1>that out after the episode when I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>clearly what's happening here. She did say though, that Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>did not sign up to be on the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Garcel said this season though, but she was last season,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Kyle retorted by saying, well, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>told us not to talk about your children and we

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<v Speaker 1>respected it, so why can't you respect not talking about Morgan.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like me leaving my husband marrying Kim Kardashian

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<v Speaker 3>and then saying, but I don't want any attention, like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry her life. Kyle's life is a reality show.

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<v Speaker 3>Her family and her living has been made off of

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<v Speaker 3>a reality show, and so are we again. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what we talk about. We get to pick

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<v Speaker 3>and choose what we want to show. We get to

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<v Speaker 3>see the love story like I mean, Mauricio Kyle, all

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<v Speaker 3>the girls, the vacations, all of it. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in I'm like, I want that in my life. I

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<v Speaker 3>manifested that. We all did. We watched it. It was beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>and when it unfolded, all of a sudden, then there's

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<v Speaker 3>like another person in the picture. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 3>mattered that it's a man, a woman, whoever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just that there is, all of a sudden, a

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<v Speaker 3>new love interest, and us, as viewers sitting at home

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<v Speaker 3>who have complicated, messy relationships ourselves, wanted to see how

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<v Speaker 3>this unfolded, and then all of a sudden, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>that person didn't sign up for this. This is not storyline.

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<v Speaker 3>No one will ever speak about it. I'm the Queen

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<v Speaker 3>of Bravo, don't you dare? My life in Marito is perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>We are living in co parents being wonderfully and I'm like, what,

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<v Speaker 3>And you're sitting at home as if you were saying huh,

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<v Speaker 3>there's some missing parts here. There's some missing parts, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And the only part that was addressed was the picture

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<v Speaker 3>of him and Abiza or wherever he was with a girl. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>they couldn't not address it because it was so heavily

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<v Speaker 3>in the press, so they had to address something, and

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<v Speaker 3>so they chose to address that. But I just didn't

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<v Speaker 3>think it was fair. You can't bring a girl on

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<v Speaker 3>the show, bring a girl into your life. Don't do

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<v Speaker 3>the show if you don't want your private life spoken about.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Aileen Davidson, No, I said, roxy, you are spitting facts, sister, wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>go all listen.

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<v Speaker 3>As a reality TV everyone wanted was thinking Carlos and

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<v Speaker 3>Sutton because she can't screw up a relationship with her boss,

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<v Speaker 3>could not say anything. So Garcel's like, hold on, why

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<v Speaker 3>aren't we talking about Morgan? Like we're allowed to like

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<v Speaker 3>pick into everything to do with Erica Jane's life, and

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<v Speaker 3>yet this girl's been married for how many years? Then

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden looks like she's perhaps maybe dating

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<v Speaker 3>a woman, and now we're like, oh, we don't talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it. That doesn't make sense. Like viewers at home

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<v Speaker 3>are like, wait, what, where's the story of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I do? I do one husband? Still listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I might have to get a security guard right outside

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<v Speaker 3>my house, Queen, A Bravo might come for me. I

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<v Speaker 3>love Kyle though, that's the truth. I love her. I

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<v Speaker 3>just I think like she's over. My personal opinion is

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, I don't want to share everything anymore. My

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<v Speaker 3>life got into a place it's not so beautiful to share.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, you know what, it's not fun sharing the messy.

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<v Speaker 3>So she should have been out out. But you don't

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<v Speaker 3>do the show and then not share. You just respectfully say,

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<v Speaker 3>me and my husband are done. My relationship's not in

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<v Speaker 3>a great place. My life's not in a great place.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm bowing out. But if you're going to do the show,

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<v Speaker 3>you owe it to the audience and fans who have

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<v Speaker 3>bought into following your life for all of this stuff

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<v Speaker 3>to share with them. It's like people always say to me, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't need to announce your pregnancy at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I go, yeah I did. People were so excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Told them all about my fertility journey and my desire

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<v Speaker 3>to fall in love, and then they watched it and

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<v Speaker 3>they congratulated me on every post where I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm engaged. I've missed you, don't. It's not like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a two way relationship there. They give you a business

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<v Speaker 3>and a platform to speak your mind, and you give

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<v Speaker 3>them access to your life. That's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like somebody may have made a deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the devil, right because it is this weird thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happens on the real house spots of Beverley Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to talk to you about this because

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<v Speaker 1>you actually live in Beverly Hills. Is the Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 1>culture that I think it is right is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't talk about things publicly, and by publicly

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<v Speaker 1>I mean outside of the zip code when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the scandals happening in these wealthy people's lives, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you do, you may get shun from attending the

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<v Speaker 1>party where boy George may perform.

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<v Speaker 3>And Elsa.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, it's do you think the reason why the

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<v Speaker 1>other ladies outside of Garcel? And again I'm on Garcal's

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<v Speaker 1>side when it comes to asking the questions, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Garcel should. But when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>culture of Beverley Hills, is the reason why none of

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<v Speaker 1>those ladies wanted to talk about things that were in

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<v Speaker 1>the press as it relates to Colin Morgan and Maurizio

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<v Speaker 1>is because of the culture of that zip code, as

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<v Speaker 1>someone like you who lives.

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<v Speaker 3>There, well, not many of these women live in like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think any of these women actually live in

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<v Speaker 3>Beverly Hills, like Collins the Beautiful Home and Encino, and

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<v Speaker 3>so does Derey. I think the closest to Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 3>is probably Sutton. I think she lives in bel Air,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. And Jennifer Tilly might live in Beverly Hills, but.

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<v Speaker 1>And Erica Jane lives in Beverly Hills right now that

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<v Speaker 1>house I thought I was in Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think she lives in the valley. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing wrong with where they live. I'm not saying anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I'm just saying I don't think they're in that.

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<v Speaker 3>The only person who seems to be in that world

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<v Speaker 3>are Sutton and Kyle, Like those are people I see

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:38.440
<v Speaker 3>out and about it things well, I mean, I'm just

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 3>gonna hide my face now, never shut up, no offense.

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 3>Hope they don't listen to your podcast Carlos Girl.

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>They do lock lock your doors.

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Girl, I'll get they.

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 2>All do just sell you down. Okay, well I give

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I get calls at a party.

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 3>So then I say all of this about Kyle. I

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 3>talk a big game, but I actually love Kyle. She's

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 3>my favorite, She's one of my favorite housewives, and she's

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 3>the one I've always identified with. So I say all

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 3>of this lovingly. But I think the thing is is

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.959
<v Speaker 3>that it's like a hierarchy, right, It's like what I

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 3>was talking about before. I think this is people's job

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 3>as well, So no one wants to lose their job

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 3>and kiss off the people that are in charge. And

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 3>you can't if like someone say it like like I said,

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I've said it, and I've said it a million times.

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Kyle's the queen of the show. This is Kyle's show.

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 3>If Kyle doesn't want something talked about, and then you

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 3>go blurting your mouth talking about it, and honestly, maybe

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.160
<v Speaker 3>not ask back next season, because it does matter what

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:45.120
<v Speaker 3>the girls think of the cast. Like a girl can

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 3>say if she if your lead cast is like, I'm

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 3>not going to film with that girl anymore. She's so

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 3>bad for my energy. Guess what she doesn't always come back.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>So this is when the cracks in the gar cell

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and in relationships started to form on part web reunion,

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and this is when again my vindication happened. Thank you

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.360
<v Speaker 1>rain Drows for office supporting being happy in my back and.

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get the rain drops to come protect

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 3>me from the ah. But can I just can we

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 3>stay for the record, my love for some of these girls,

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 3>like I do know it's okay, and I really love Erica.

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Now listen, my disclaimer is this in real life. Like

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you intimated earlier. What gives lost in this world is

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>people being honest and just and just being honest about

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a particularly thing that happened. It doesn't negate your love

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 1>for a person. I've said this once, I'll say it again.

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>My rain drops know my favorite housewife is Kyle. I

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>love her and that's that's never going to change. However,

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to call things as I see them as

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>it relates to Kyle, but it doesn't negate my love

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>for her.

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 2>So this brings me yeah, so we're both on the

0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 2>same page.

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>This brings me go to the downfall and the destruction

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 1>of the alliance between Garcela and Sutton, because I don't

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>know if you caught this, Roxy, but I did.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>When it was two things.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>When they started talking about Morgan, you could tell Garzilla

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm not the only one who felt this way,

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>or or no, I'm not the only.

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 3>One woke up. That's I'm saying. Sudden kept her mouth shut.

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>And then when they talked about the robbery of Dry, this.

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Was my most I didn't like this, Okay.

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>So let me let me update the rain drops with this.

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>So when it was brought up that Garcilla questioned the

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>validity of the robbery that occurred at Durrett's house and

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>how she intimated that somebody was in on it but

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>not dere Derey obviously or rightfully.

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 2>So had a very sort of reaction to that.

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 1>And then Garcel said, I'm not the only one who

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>felt this way, and I felt in that moment she

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>was looking for Son to say, allegedly, you and I

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>have this conversation to Sutton, but once again, this is

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the second time I'm being hung out too Dry, and

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that's why Gardsel and Ston alliance is now destructive.

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 3>But go ahead, Roxy, Look, we talked about these off

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 3>camera conversations. I can't imagine the stuff Sutton has said

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 3>about Dury off camera, but clock it right, like Kyle Ugh, Yes,

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 3>they've said some things off camera. Obviously, everyone talks off camera.

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 3>They even referenced an off camera conversation that Kyle was having,

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Like everyone has camp conversations off camera and then they

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 3>decide what they're gonna talk about on camera. That's just

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 3>where we're at in life, in the world of reality.

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 3>But when Garcel said that, I thought it was so nasty,

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Like this is a woman who has gone through a

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 3>horrifying experience, like it is traumatizing to as a mom

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 3>of two young kids, her babies were young, like traumatizing,

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 3>And to suggest that I thought was really really nasty,

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 3>because what are you saying about dry Like what you're

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>saying is you wanted what media attention so bad, or

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 3>like this was an insurance thing, or like what are

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 3>you suggesting about her and her character that she would

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 3>do something so horrific to her and her family for what?

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 3>And so I thought that was like I really didn't

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 3>like that she brought that up. Again. I thought it

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 3>was like attacking a woman when she was down. But

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, she's like trying to like subtly like

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 3>kick Sutton next to her and be like right Ston

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 3>and something's just like buttoned up like a good Southern girl.

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh now you're quiet. Now you're quiet. Son who called

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 3>her poor eat and like has said all these nasty

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 3>things about money tour and then she's just like, I

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 3>gotta sell my cashmere. Don't want to piss anyone off

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 3>too much.

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Cashmere, not the Kashmir girl. But no, but but but but.

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 3>But that's we also have to sell. We can't be

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 3>too annoying.

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>But in Garceel's defense, she never once said Dur was

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in on it.

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 3>No, well what was she? No? No, no, no, no, no no.

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>She but she said it in the flashback she did

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>say it.

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 3>That's not that. Well who was in on it? Benefit? Okay?

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 3>So who was in on it?

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>My belief and Garcel, in my opinion, I don't think

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Garcel was confident enough to say this when she said

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>in the flashback, when she.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Said roll the tape, roll the tape.

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>They rolled the tape, us the tape, and she said,

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe Dur was in on it. Now listen,

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>anybody with the brain cell would no, you're intimating Pque was, Oh, my.

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Goodness, that's a horrible thing to say about someone. That's

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.239
<v Speaker 3>worse than anything these people have said. I'm sorry, like

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 3>that back to me, the whole thing is just a really,

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 3>really nasty thing to say, because her kids were involved.

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 3>It was like watching that experience when it played out

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 3>on camera and she shared she was so traumatized. She

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 3>had so much trauma from that, and I think it

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>changed her forever. And I just don't think. I thought

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 3>it was really below the belt to go there. No,

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I didn't like that. That does not sit well with me. No,

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 3>we don't mess with trauma. We don't mess with that

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of trauma. No, no, no, no, no, not when

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 3>her kids are involved, not when she was involved, not

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 3>when she was so open and vulnerable about how it's

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 3>essentially was part of the breakdown of her marriage. Even so,

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 3>the other thing, though, is this just to you know, also,

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 3>like she lives and see how everyone gets broken into there,

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Like you live in a big, nice house and Encino

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 3>and you're famous, you're getting broken into It's like people

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 3>from La know that. So like it's a big problem

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 3>in the valley, right, and so it's even weird to suggest,

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 3>because if you're from LA, you know that they're having

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 3>huge like that. That's a problem in LA in that

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 3>particular neighborhood.

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>No, no robberies.

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know that, but believe me, on the inside,

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 3>everyone knows you live in your famous and you living

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 3>in you know it's a big security issue.

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>But there were people online talking about it. But this

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>is why you got to be very careful when you

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>are a reality star and you peruse through Twitter. There

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>were people on Twitter who question this, right, just being honest. However, However,

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean you have to go on Twitter, read

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>something and then repeat it. That's again, I'm not saying

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>oursel dia that, but I do believe that because people

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter were saying it, and I believe allegedly allegedly

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>guards and something both talked about it amongst themselves. Right,

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you believe that too, right for sure? And she really

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted something to have her back, but something new.

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 2>If I admit to this, I'm fucked.

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know.

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 3>So I can't go there. Not good for the cashmir Ah.

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to get to both. What are your thoughts

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 2>on bows?

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I love her love I thought she had such like

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 3>a breakout great season. It's so hard to come into

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 3>such like a cast that has so much like history

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 3>and so much depth and like have and get airtime

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 3>while not being like the most obnoxious human. Like you

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 3>can get airtime if you're like sleeping with your husband's

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 3>sister's husband, you know what I mean. Okay, then they'll

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 3>air that. But to come on and be graceful and

0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 3>get airtime while having like this beautiful life that actually

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 3>hard to do in reality. And so I think she

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 3>had an amazing season. I think she was bold. I

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 3>thought she like did not hold back. She said things

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 3>that she felt. I think she was like a voice

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 3>of reason. I think she was something fresh. I loved her.

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 3>I love her now.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I love those too.

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Bose was listen if there wasn't a war, like how

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the Grammy's give our best.

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 3>New artist, Oh yeah, best new housewife.

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Best new reality star.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 3>He held her own And I loved that, Like she

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 3>really held her own in a cast of women who

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 3>like when they have such deep, like deep relationships, it's

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 3>hard to even insert yourself in the to get even airtime.

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 3>They usually don't show. It's almost like a friend of

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 3>when you're the new housewife you like hardly get any airtime,

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 3>and both got lots of airtime. And I love that

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 3>for her because I think she's like a great cast member.

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.959
<v Speaker 3>I think she had beautiful energy. I thought she also

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 3>like kind of put some of these women in their place,

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 3>being like, you know you're you know, you're real crazy.

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, No, that's why I loved her too.

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>So we got a chance to really understand Bowse this reunion.

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>One thing that Bos did say and I would love

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to get her thoughts on this being a former housewife yourself.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Bows did admit that when she got the gig of

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>being a housewife that her and Garsel had lunch for dinner, whatever,

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and she told Garcel like.

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, girl, give me the T, give me the T,

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>give the tea.

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>And Garseel said, no, I want you to get to

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>know these ladies for yourself. And Bo said, that's what

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>she appreciated about Garsel, because Garceel really did encourage her

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like get to know these women on your own, and

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that's why she was able to go into her first

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>all castine meeting DERII and connecting with her. What did

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you think about that being revealed at this reunion? Do

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>you think it was a chess move that what Garsel did,

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>or do you think Bows wanted the world to know

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>that Garcel helped her in this way?

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 3>When where was I when she said that. I don't

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 3>even remember her saying that. She said that, Yeah, that

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 3>what I think is a chess move. Okay, I didn't

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 3>hear that. Maybe I was like looking at my phone

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 3>at that time, like, you know, we're distracted here. But

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 3>if she said that, I think that's a power move.

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 3>That's a power move saying you came to me to

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 3>not be authentic, and I graced upon you my advice

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 3>to be authentic. I think that's what that is. I

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 3>think that is a power move. I think that anyone

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 3>going into a New Housewives cast always tries to meet

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 3>the cast and sit down and get the tea. Everybody

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 3>says they aren't, Oh come on, you do your homework,

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 3>you watch the show, you try and meet up with

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 3>the women. You're trying to get a sense of what

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 3>you're walking into. So I think that's totally normal, totally

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 3>normal to like want to kind of and you're not

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 3>really like getting the tea, you're just like, Okay, tell

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 3>me about these women, Like, let's get to know what

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 3>am I getting into it? What am I getting myself

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:09.879
<v Speaker 3>into here? And then but for Garcel to would announce okay.

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Noose, No, Garcell didn't reveal this, bos.

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Did Oh okay, then sorry, I take that back. I

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 3>thought you were saying Garcel like said that.

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>No Bose Bows revealed this, and I felt it was

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>a way for Bows to reveal that Garcel had an

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to talk shit about the girls and she didn't.

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was very nice of Bose, and that's

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>why that's why I love bowls, and that's why I

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>think it's weird of how people online are attacking Bows

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>because they did not like Bows inserting herself in the

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>dialogue between Dearit and Garcel when it came to the

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>accusation that the robbery was shut up.

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 3>I love that she stuck up for Jurid. I'm sorry

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 3>what Carcel said to me was totally out of line,

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 3>and no one is sticking up for Jerid for whatever reason.

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 3>And I thought it was amazing of her to say,

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 3>hold on a second, that's a pretty big statement to me,

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 3>and I think Duri needed that, like even just Bose

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 3>at such a presence. I was like looking at the

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 3>cast when they're sitting on the couch and like, Duri's

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 3>this like almost looks like, you know, frail, and then

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 3>Bose's this like strong imposing force and you're like, it's

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 3>like a nice energy to She's like this, she's strong,

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 3>and she looks like like she's she's got a force,

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 3>let's say. And so I just even hearing her speak

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 3>up next to Juri, durit was almost like frail next

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.760
<v Speaker 3>to her, nervous about the whole thing. And then Bose

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 3>is like this strong force. I like loved even seeing that.

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 3>I thought Duri needed that. Duri this season looks like

0:38:55.760 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 3>a woman who's struggling. She's clearly struggling, and so I

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 3>don't love that everyone's like, oh, okay, well you're struggling,

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 3>let's just start kicking. No, you don't kick people when

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 3>you're down. At the end of the day, I don't

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 3>care what you say about these women. These are real

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 3>relationships and this is someone who's really going through something.

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 3>When your husband writes in a like a note to

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Bravo to say, FYI, you're a lost woman, and I

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 3>hope you return to the good woman you were one

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 3>day you're so far from that, Like, that's nasty stuff.

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna do that on public and knowing that your

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 3>kids are gonna read it one day, but the mother

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 3>of your children, this is nasty. Imagine what's happening behind

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 3>closed doors. The fact that Duried stayed that composed is

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.799
<v Speaker 3>a miracle because clearly that is a man who is

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 3>being nasty. I'm not saying she's not being nasty back.

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying this is clearly a gross situation. And

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I felt she was pretty graceful considering what is clearly

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 3>a very hard situation she's navigating. And I like the

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 3>boast of them.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did too, because my thing is this is

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>one of those things where the reunion stage is for

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody to get everything out. Some people felt that bows

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 1>is not your business, stay out of it.

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll watch. Yeah.

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>My thing is like the reunion stage is the opportunity

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>for everybody to insert themselves and everyone's business.

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think Bo's are anything wrong.

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 3>No, the show is get involved in each other's business.

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, what are we watching. We're not watching like

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 3>the Megan as Ever or whatever it's called show about cooking.

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 3>We're watching a show about women getting involved in each

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 3>other's lives and then talking about it and their relationships unfolding,

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Like so that's the show. So this is what I

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:42.360
<v Speaker 3>get frustrated with with fans. Okay, here's the problem, Carlos.

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 3>They want everyone to be open, and then they want

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 3>people to also be the most manicured, filtered versions of themselves.

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, entertain us, but then don't say the

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 3>wrong word. And it's like, look, if you want people

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 3>to truly be entertaining, to be themselves, to be authentic,

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 3>they cannot be so nervous about being censored in every word.

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 3>They've got to be able to like sometimes say ortlandish things,

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>sometimes say things will get them in trouble, sometimes say

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 3>the wrong thing, the right thing. They just need to

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 3>be able to be free. So we can't hold them

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 3>to this like, well, I didn't like that she said

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 3>these three words about to read, or I didn't like

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 3>the Just let them let them talk.

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 2>That's the show it is.

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of which, this is the reunion, and I

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>want to address something that a lot of people are

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>saying a lot of people felt that Garsell was ganged

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 1>up on. And I want to start off by saying

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>this as somebody who creates shows, as somebody who produces reunions,

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 1>and as somebody who hosts reunions myself.

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, once again, audience.

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>The reunion stage is for people to address everything they

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>watch on the show. Not everything is said to their faces.

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>A lot of things are said in the confessionals, I

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:12.479
<v Speaker 1>love me some Garsel. Garcel says a lot of things

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>about these women not to their faces.

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 2>So what else do y'all want them to do?

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>So when Erica Jane said I don't find you that interesting,

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and Garcel was like, well, that's a shitty thing to say.

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 2>But then when she storms out, interested in her agreement with.

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Sudden, she goes, I can't believe Erica said that, what

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>do you want me to do?

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Have a criminal storyline?

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Ab activities and like those are things. I'm like, Garcel,

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you're proving that point. Say that ship on the stage.

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Why are you reading.

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Erica for filth, which, by the way, was to read

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and I love to read.

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But the point is, this is why the audience doesn't

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>understand a lot of watching it without blinders. They're coming

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>for Garsel because Garcel is a confessional gangster and she

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>proved that at the reunion. She's sat on that stage

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>and said nothing besides, I don't like this.

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 2>That was a shitty thing to say.

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Well I thought that, But then when she's in her

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>green room with Sutton, she's reading everybody for filth. So she, unfortunately,

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and I love garselve unfortunately, she's proving their point by

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>every time you talk about us, you don't say to

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>our faces. When she made that comment about p K

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and Derey and the robbery, she didn't say it to

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Dure's face.

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>When she made the comments about.

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Sutton and Kyle and how Sutton is striving for Kyle's

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>approval or attention, she didn't say that to Sutton's face.

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>So when you're on that stage at a reunion, people

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 1>where their cast gets to see things that they don't

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>get a chance to witness and person, it's their opportunity

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to address it. So stop saying they ganged up on Garsel. No,

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Garsel had to be held accountable for the thing she

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>said without them being present, and that's exactly what they

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 1>were doing.

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, there you got, there you go? Was that question

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 3>I made.

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 2>You want to chime in, Hunter, you can, but that

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 2>was my declaration.

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think that's the take. That is the take.

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>I think Garcel also was like, I'm fucking over this.

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 3>You girls are bitches, and I've already not signed next

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 3>to season, like you know, she's already No, she's when

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 3>she's she's like, I'm out of here, I'm working on

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 3>my things, I'm doing my things. I'm not I'm not

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.839
<v Speaker 3>dealing with this bullshit. But then behind the scenes, when

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 3>you like bitch to your friends, you fucking girls are

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 3>like really up in my business, like and so I

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 3>think she's just sort of like venting naturally. But then

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 3>she's not going to like put herselves out there and

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.720
<v Speaker 3>like engage in fire because it's stressful being an Orenian

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 3>is like talking to having to confront these problems. I

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 3>think she's just sort of over it. That's my impression.

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>It was the moment she said down I had I

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>had third seat.

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 2>I think she was over it.

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 3>I think yeah, no, she was like, I'm not getting them,

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 3>hold I'm not.

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I think she was over it.

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>And again when she left the stage and she pretty

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 1>much was like, you know these women on my friends,

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>fuck these girls. Obviously something is included in that. So

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 1>when something came knocking on the.

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Door and goes, well, how are you feeling? And she

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 2>goes not good. I'm like, God, I say, I'll tell

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Son to her face how you feel.

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 3>That's why I just didn't understand why she had to

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 3>bring up the like Threet robbery from last year. I

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 3>was like, you're already on your Leo, why are you

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 3>got to throw that Jabin Like, I feel like she

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 3>has so much that she wants to say. I feel

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.799
<v Speaker 3>like she's resentment towards Dreiy, like she doesn't like Dai

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 3>and it's like boiling up and she has like something

0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 3>she wants to get off her chest about her that's

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 3>of like a mean And I don't know why she

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:05.359
<v Speaker 3>needed to say it. She could have just walked off

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:06.879
<v Speaker 3>like it didn't need to be brought up. It wasn't

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 3>even part of the season.

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Where do you think the cast goes from here? Because

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>we do know Garcel left. We have a cast full

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of women where the only friendship I believe is strong

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>is the friendship between dury Bose and Erica.

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 2>And I believe that.

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 1>I believe that Kyle and Erica are close, and I

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>believe Sutton is just something just wants desperately to be

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Kyle's friend because of the status that Kyle has in California.

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's going to be interesting to see something without

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Garcel because I'm going to predict this. I'm always right.

0:46:56.000 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Suton is going to come in next season saying I

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 1>just want to have fun this season, I'm going to

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>have fun. She's not going to get into with everybody.

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 1>She's going to be so boring. I promise you. Sudden

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>teeth that she has when she's insane, like the kick

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 1>she has and just the grit, We're not going to

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>see that because she does not want to be iced

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.280
<v Speaker 1>out because she lost the only alliance that she had.

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>And I promise you she is going to really be

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>nice to Drey. I promise you that.

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what I didn't like. Would did you

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 3>catch that part when like basically Kyle was saying to

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 3>Dread or implying to Dread if you didn't want to

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 3>be back this season, like I wouldn't have you back,

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Like they were talking about how well you're friends with

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 3>the producer, so you would know if I wasn't aspect

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 3>like she was basically implying that the drama around her

0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 3>divorce was like a storyline to get her back on

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 3>the show. Did did you guys pick up on that?

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:02.479
<v Speaker 3>I did?

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 2>I did? I did?

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>But calling Kyle out like it's your show continue but

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>go ahay Roxy.

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I was like, hold on a second, this

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.359
<v Speaker 3>is a weird position for Duriid because once, like I said,

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 3>you go against your boss, you go against like you.

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 3>You want to go against things, you know, you ruffle feathers.

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think like Dorie like showed up this season

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:31.760
<v Speaker 3>and was actually honest and open about things she was feeling,

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 3>and she like spoke up for herself, and I feel

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 3>like very much she has secured a next season. But

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 3>they either need to do two things. All these women

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 3>need to move forward together, and like, let's see how

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.720
<v Speaker 3>all of this unfolds. Let's see what life for Durid

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 3>is like next season with the new world that she's navigating.

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Let's see what Kyle's world is like with her kids

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 3>moved out and her husband gone, and now what that

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 3>looks like for her. We need to see all of

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 3>this unfolds together or we need to complete redo, Like

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 3>it's I don't, I don't. I think it's gonna be

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 3>very hard for them to bring new people in and

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.920
<v Speaker 3>integrate them in. I think it's I think like it's

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 3>either got to be a new, fresh take or we've

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:20.879
<v Speaker 3>got to watch. We've got to continue to watch this

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:26.760
<v Speaker 3>group because they're so intertwined unfold together. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>It does make sense, yea.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I just don't think everyone has enough that they're

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<v Speaker 3>willing to share a show on their own to like

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<v Speaker 3>carry them being on their own, Like what's Kyle going

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<v Speaker 3>to show in her personal life? Like is she gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be able to carry the show if she didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>these relationships and history with Dori and with with Sutton

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<v Speaker 3>and with well her relationship is new with Bose, But

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<v Speaker 3>like is there I think like they're so entrenched that

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<v Speaker 3>that's the story now, is their relationships, because no one

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<v Speaker 3>has like a personal life that is you really want

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<v Speaker 3>a spotlight on. I mean, let's be serious. Everyone's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of in a situation that was kind of sad this season,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we watched relationships that we loved fall apart. We

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<v Speaker 3>watched we watched beautiful marriages that had children involve, you know, dissolve,

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<v Speaker 3>and like that's sad, So we don't want to spotlight

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<v Speaker 3>on their personal life. So instead the spotlight is on

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<v Speaker 3>their personal lives together, their relationships, and so I think

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<v Speaker 3>they all either need to progress together or when Kyle's

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<v Speaker 3>decided she just wants to go to Aspen, then they're

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<v Speaker 3>all cut Cayle, those AskMen and she's like, I'm done

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<v Speaker 3>with this. And when she's ready to be done, I

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<v Speaker 3>think then the whole past will need a refresh. And

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<v Speaker 3>if she's not ready to be done, I think everything

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<v Speaker 3>carries forward with her, and the relationships that are close

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<v Speaker 3>to Kyle will carry forward. That's just my two cents.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, tell the to send just secure you

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<v Speaker 3>to my home and love.

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<v Speaker 2>We will make that up. We'll make that happen. Roxy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, thank you so much for coming in to

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<v Speaker 1>recap this episode. I'm so happy we did this together

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<v Speaker 1>and once again let them know where that can find you,

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<v Speaker 1>follow you and support you on social media and everything

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<v Speaker 1>else you have going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Roxy, So well, thank you. This was so fun. Carlos.

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<v Speaker 3>I end it with I love all of them. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>well some of them. I'm sending love to many. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sending love into the universe, and I hope all of

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<v Speaker 3>these women from Beverly Hills as the season wraps, like

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<v Speaker 3>go on to live like happy and peaceful, loving lives.

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<v Speaker 3>So I want I want the best for them because

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<v Speaker 3>I love them and they've entertained us, and then for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Ill love it all right, rain jobs.

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