Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings.
Speaker 2: The King of Reality TV and one of the most sought.
Speaker 1: After executive producers in reality television with over ten years
Speaker 1: a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,
Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,
Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that
Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain Drops,
Speaker 1: on today's episode Reality with the King. First of all, Carlos.
Speaker 2: King is vindicated. I am vindicated.
Speaker 1: Gays, girls days and guys, Okay, I feel good about it.
Speaker 1: I'll get into that later. But Carlos King is vindicated,
Speaker 1: and rain Drops, thank you for always supporting me and
Speaker 1: for always having my back. But on this episode, somebody
Speaker 1: has my front. She is a former Real housewife of
Speaker 1: Toronto who also lives in Beverly Hills. She's married to
Speaker 1: a very handsome fertility doctor and together they have this
Speaker 1: amazing fertility app called Anna. So give it up for
Speaker 1: the beautiful woman who I got a chance to meet
Speaker 1: at Kathy Hilton's Christmas party and we had a good
Speaker 1: time and I'm so happy she is making her Reality
Speaker 1: with the King debut. Give it up for Roxy.
Speaker 3: What an intro can not be like my new bio.
Speaker 1: Yes, Tata, you could take this and put it and
Speaker 1: pin it to your Instagram feed and then you can
Speaker 1: have chat GPT insert it in your profile bio.
Speaker 3: I will do all that.
Speaker 2: Carlos, how are you, baby doll?
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me? This is so fun. Like
Speaker 3: I'm first of all, loved the show last night, like obsessed,
Speaker 3: love this intro. Yes, I like the husband's like I
Speaker 3: used to call him the hot baby doctor, so I
Speaker 3: like that. You're like, she is a hot fertility doctor
Speaker 3: USB and that's right, you can do I call him
Speaker 3: hot baby doctor.
Speaker 2: No, I've met him at the party too. He's so handsome.
Speaker 1: But talk to me about your app and is claw
Speaker 1: on a is a fertility app?
Speaker 2: So I explained that to us. And how you came
Speaker 2: up with this? Well, I have.
Speaker 3: This amazing husband who's a fertility doctor. But if I didn't,
Speaker 3: I would have myself kind of gone on to do
Speaker 3: fertility treatments that I didn't need to do. I was
Speaker 3: told I needed IVF by two doctors in California, and
Speaker 3: then I just so happened to fall in love with
Speaker 3: a fertility doctor and he's like, why do you think
Speaker 3: you need IVF? And I was like, well that was
Speaker 3: what I was told and it's just such a big
Speaker 3: industry IVF. And so when we wanted to get pregnant,
Speaker 3: my husband put me on a program where he managed
Speaker 3: my supplements. He managed helped me manage my inflammation, changed,
Speaker 3: my fitness changed, my mindset changed, like some of the
Speaker 3: things that I I was taking, and lo and behold,
Speaker 3: the program worked. We started tracking the ovulation properly, because
Speaker 3: most trackers are not accurate. Ours is and we started
Speaker 3: tracking and doing everything properly, and I got pregnant at
Speaker 3: thirty eight, and then I got pregnant again at thirty nine.
Speaker 3: And people were so interested in this that we turned
Speaker 3: that program into our app called Anna. And in Ana,
Speaker 3: you can follow our whole program. It takes you through
Speaker 3: everything you need to do to help you get pregnant
Speaker 3: at home. It can even send you the supplements that
Speaker 3: you need. It recommends what you need if you need
Speaker 3: a little bit of fertility drugs that you can take
Speaker 3: it home. You can even chat with Arnold right in
Speaker 3: the app. And like, that's a big deal because not
Speaker 3: everyone can come to Beverly Hills and see this fancy
Speaker 3: celebrity doctor, but here you have access to him right
Speaker 3: in the app. And so it's amazing, and it's born
Speaker 3: out of our own journey to try and help women
Speaker 3: get pregnant. So everyone's seen my whole life unfold.
Speaker 2: Why not know.
Speaker 3: Everything about my journey to fertility and all all of
Speaker 3: that as well. Well.
Speaker 1: No, that's amazing because I have a lot of listeners
Speaker 1: who are trying to get pregnant, whether there are same
Speaker 1: sex couples or women in general or women.
Speaker 2: Of a particular age.
Speaker 1: So this is really amazing because I'm vegan and I
Speaker 1: do believe that health is wealth, and I believe that food,
Speaker 1: heels and taking the proper supplements for your body type
Speaker 1: and your blood type can be able to, like you said,
Speaker 1: get rid of things, even inflammation. I know you talked
Speaker 1: about that before. So that's really amazing. So we can
Speaker 1: get this app like at the app store on our phones, right, Yes, just.
Speaker 3: Type in on a Fertility his websites doctor Arnold. You
Speaker 3: can just put into Google. But yeah, on a Fertility
Speaker 3: in the app store. And it's amazing because it's it's
Speaker 3: just such a I just want listeners to know this
Speaker 3: one thing. Fertility clinics are a business. And so you
Speaker 3: walk into a bakery, you're going to be sold bread,
Speaker 3: you know. You walk into a fertility clinic, next thing
Speaker 3: you know, you're being sold ivy app. And it's expensive
Speaker 3: and it's costly, and for the people who need it,
Speaker 3: it's an miracle, and we treat them every day here
Speaker 3: at our clinic and Beverly Hills. But for the there's
Speaker 3: so many women who don't need to go through all
Speaker 3: of this, who are otherwise doing it because they didn't
Speaker 3: have an you know, no one tells them about this
Speaker 3: in between option. Let's manage your inflammation, let's manage your supplements,
Speaker 3: let's track your cycle propertly. Let's get to the root cause.
Speaker 3: And so I think it's really beautiful that we've created
Speaker 3: something you can try and help people. And then you know,
Speaker 3: for the gays, we love the gays, they're here out
Speaker 3: every day. We help, we help same sex couples get pregnant,
Speaker 3: we love men having babies, and we have a big
Speaker 3: third party, you know, part of our business to help
Speaker 3: with the surrogates and stuff like that. So we're just
Speaker 3: trying to help all families try to have babies because
Speaker 3: we have two babies ourselves and we love it so much.
Speaker 3: We just want to spread that love to the world. Carlos, No,
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that love.
Speaker 1: As a guy, well, I gotta find you know, Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm single, so I gotta find no problem. Well, honey,
Speaker 1: does your fertility app also help me find a man?
Speaker 3: Single father by choice? It's okay? Oh yes, I mean
Speaker 3: I don't just say, Carlos, if you need one.
Speaker 2: Okay, we know how to do.
Speaker 3: We know how to make babies for everyone.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that, my sister. Okay, I'll listen.
Speaker 2: I'll keep that in mind.
Speaker 1: But I definitely would download the app anyway, because you
Speaker 1: never know how this crazy world we live in changes,
Speaker 1: and not only this crazy world, but the crazy world
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills too, because you and I are going
Speaker 1: to recap part one of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy to talk to you about this
Speaker 1: because you are literally a real housewife who lives in
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2: So, girlfriend, why aren't you on this show?
Speaker 3: Girl?
Speaker 2: I live like.
Speaker 3: Right in Beverly Hills, Like I can walk to Beverly
Speaker 3: Hills Hotel. It's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to be on this show, girl.
Speaker 3: Okay. When I got to LA, because I was on
Speaker 3: the Real House as a Toronto. When I got to LA,
Speaker 3: everyone was like, oh my gosh, are you joining the
Speaker 3: Real Houseies of Beverly Hills. And I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not. But it was funny that so many people,
Speaker 3: like in the business and stuff told me everything about
Speaker 3: the Wives. Everyone is just like, oh, because you're on
Speaker 3: the Housewives. They just started telling me all these things
Speaker 3: about the show and about the Wives. And it's so
Speaker 3: funny because, like I very quickly realized, this is this
Speaker 3: is this is Kyle's territory, This is Kyle's show. Kyle
Speaker 3: is the Queen of Beverly Hills. Why you say that, Well,
Speaker 3: let's just say she's the boss. Like she's the boss
Speaker 3: of the Real House Loves of Beverly Hills. There's there's
Speaker 3: I mean, there's Andy, and there's Kyle. In a good way.
Speaker 2: I love Kyle.
Speaker 3: I'm all here for her being the boss. This is
Speaker 3: her show though.
Speaker 1: So she's like Tony Danza and who's the boss? Like
Speaker 1: Alissa Balana.
Speaker 2: I was making a guess of parents.
Speaker 3: Let me explain this. You see how like Sutton's all
Speaker 3: as you can see, you can see that Sutton is
Speaker 3: kind of you know what Carcel said, Sutton's watching her
Speaker 3: words around Kyle, always trying to kind of make sure
Speaker 3: that she's pleasing Kyle. And just the truth is is
Speaker 3: that Kyle Sutton's boss. It's not that's not a bad thing,
Speaker 3: it's just the truth. Need some water after that. So
Speaker 3: it's like, tell the rain drops of suns followers not
Speaker 3: to come for me. I love something.
Speaker 1: Oh honey, the slutters came for me, girl, The sluts
Speaker 1: came for me for three years. But listen, I feel
Speaker 1: vindicated because based on this episode, I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: when I say what happened towards the end, but it's
Speaker 1: so evident that based on part one reunion, Garcela doesn't
Speaker 1: like any of these women, including Sutton. They're not friends.
Speaker 1: The alliance is gone. Everybody owes me an apology. Who
Speaker 1: tried to put me in a corner like I'm babing
Speaker 1: dirty dancing because I had an opinion that turned out
Speaker 1: to be a fact. Because I know this is a
Speaker 1: big of by my podcast and why people love it.
Speaker 1: I'm not coming as a biased supporter. I'm coming as
Speaker 1: a reality TV executive who works with networks, who understands
Speaker 1: how the sausage is made, and I understand human behavior
Speaker 1: as relates only to reality stars. I don't talk about politics,
Speaker 1: I don't talk about science, I don't talk about fertility.
Speaker 1: I talk about reality TV because I know what the fuck.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: So I said for three years gar selling Sutton's alliance
Speaker 1: is an alliance. It's not a friendship. And we saw
Speaker 1: that happen in this episode. And I feel good that
Speaker 1: the world is now saying, oh, my god's carl of
Speaker 1: us right, Because in Beverly Hills, where you live, and
Speaker 1: you even said that this show belongs to Kyle.
Speaker 2: Everybody in Beverly.
Speaker 1: Hills to me, and I'd love to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this, they have to kiss the ring because that,
Speaker 1: to me is just sort of the Beverly Hale's culture,
Speaker 1: and in the culture of this particular show. Instead of
Speaker 1: Cash is king, Kyle is queen.
Speaker 3: Kyle is the Queen. Kyle is the boss. Everyone must
Speaker 3: make sure that the boss is happy, otherwise you're gonna
Speaker 3: get your ass kicked off that show. But I mean
Speaker 3: I'm here for because I love Kyle. It's been her
Speaker 3: show for how many years, seventeen years or something. I
Speaker 3: don't know how many seasons. It's been fourteen seasons, like
Speaker 3: I don't remember, getting them all mixed up in my head.
Speaker 3: But she's the queen of the show. She's I don't
Speaker 3: know if she's she's certainly a queen. I mean she's
Speaker 3: a queen and people must bow down and respectfully, so
Speaker 3: like she's made an entire franchise. That franchise has made
Speaker 3: many other franchises, So respectfully, show respect where respects do.
Speaker 3: Don't come on the show and go pissing off Kyle
Speaker 3: and Son's like, I'm not losing my job. I like
Speaker 3: this job. I want to sell my cashmere, and so
Speaker 3: of the boss and then Garcellas like I'm fucking doing
Speaker 3: my show. I felt like I'm producing my movies. Lifetime's
Speaker 3: got a contract with me, bitch as I'm out of here,
Speaker 3: so I'm just gonna say my piece on my way out.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. So the episode kicks off
Speaker 1: ROXY with Pee k releasing a statement that I felt
Speaker 1: was a novel written by is it Joe Collins?
Speaker 2: Or Jackie Collins. I get them confused, but it's the
Speaker 2: novelist system. Okay.
Speaker 1: So he was asked to come to the reunion. He
Speaker 1: turned down the opportunity. In his statement, I don't want
Speaker 1: to read the entire thing because it would take up
Speaker 1: thirty minutes of this episode, honey, and we have so
Speaker 1: much ground to cover. But I'm paraphrasing as he said
Speaker 1: in this letter that he does not recognize who Dary
Speaker 1: is anymore.
Speaker 2: She's not the woman he married.
Speaker 1: The statement she made about him being a bad father
Speaker 1: was not okay, and that if he was at the reunion,
Speaker 1: him and de Ret would have a dialogue that was
Speaker 1: not going.
Speaker 2: To be pleasing to their situation.
Speaker 1: When you saw this statement, how do you feel roxy
Speaker 1: about PK not showing up?
Speaker 3: First of all, that is not not showing up. Not
Speaker 3: showing up as like politely declining Bravo, sitting at home
Speaker 3: and keeping your mouth shut. This was showing up. It
Speaker 3: was just showing up in a really cowardly way. It's like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm going to just send in this like perfectly crafted
Speaker 3: nasty letter about Drey let it be said, and then
Speaker 3: not be there to like have to hear her response,
Speaker 3: and the fact that she had to hear that live.
Speaker 3: I'm at a breath literally dying. I'm not literally losing
Speaker 3: my breath, because that's a world is imagine hearing that
Speaker 3: you're going through this nasty separation divorce, and then that
Speaker 3: gets read to you in front of all these women
Speaker 3: right at the reunion live from Bravo, I mean, right
Speaker 3: from Andy. Oh my gosh, horrible, disgusting. I don't care
Speaker 3: how nasty things are. That's showing up, just showing up
Speaker 3: in a weird way. Not a vibe. PK, not my vibes.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 2: We can't kill my vibes.
Speaker 3: We can't go Am and Marisio can go like make
Speaker 3: out with girls on the beach and the visa or
Speaker 3: whatever they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: But oh dear, oh dear, okay, chow, we are just
Speaker 1: getting started. This is reality with the King, and I'm
Speaker 1: Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 3: So here's the thing. This is a messy, complicated part
Speaker 3: of the show. But we can't have it both ways
Speaker 3: as fans. We can't ask these women to be uninhibited
Speaker 3: and speak openly about their lives and then have them
Speaker 3: be so edited that how they feel they have to
Speaker 3: like watch every word. If she feels he's an alcoholic,
Speaker 3: that's her experience, maybe you know. And so I feel
Speaker 3: like we diminish her experience as a mother and wife
Speaker 3: when we like ask her not to use certain labels.
Speaker 3: That's her opinion. That might be what was going on
Speaker 3: in her injury. Tome and her in PK's home and
Speaker 3: when they went and met for like dinner or lunch
Speaker 3: in one of the scenes, he talked about it openly.
Speaker 3: So I didn't understand why everyone was like, don't use
Speaker 3: that label. That's her experience. We don't know what's gone
Speaker 3: on in that marriage. But what we can't do is
Speaker 3: we can't ask them to be open and free and
Speaker 3: like just uninhibited when they talk to us, and then
Speaker 3: also ask them to be perfect with every word and
Speaker 3: edit everything you say. That's her experience, and I don't
Speaker 3: want to take that away from her. Having dealt with
Speaker 3: somebody who's had substance abuse issues in a relationship before,
Speaker 3: in a past relationship, I can tell you I labeled
Speaker 3: them that before they labeled themselves that, and that's sometimes
Speaker 3: the truth.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you raised good points, because one.
Speaker 1: Thing that I want all my reality stars to do
Speaker 1: is to have the ability to be themselves and to
Speaker 1: be uncensored.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so listen, I'm not here to read the rea
Speaker 2: for that. I will listen.
Speaker 1: I still feel the same way that that's his story
Speaker 1: to tell, dealing with people in my family that has
Speaker 1: so variety issues.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you know, it's
Speaker 2: one of those things.
Speaker 1: Where I still feel I wish there was more compassion,
Speaker 1: only because your husband did say he did not like
Speaker 1: the fact that you say it was a bad dad
Speaker 1: and look.
Speaker 3: That's an alcoholic.
Speaker 1: Are different things, agree, but I was going someplace, right,
Speaker 1: But the thing is this, you call him a bad dad,
Speaker 1: and on the after show, Durite says she regrets it.
Speaker 1: So I appreciated that, But then to add insult to injury,
Speaker 1: you double down on pretty much revealing that PK allegedly
Speaker 1: allegedly is still drinking, and then to have to deal
Speaker 1: with the after effects of that. So it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where for me, Roxy, I'm like, yes, that's
Speaker 1: your reality, but did we not learn from our mistake
Speaker 1: the first time?
Speaker 3: Here's the thing though, like we don't get to just
Speaker 3: show the highlight, right, we go on the show. We
Speaker 3: show off the parties where we've got rock stars singing
Speaker 3: in our living room with PK and Durie and he's
Speaker 3: gifting her all the chanel and he's got what the
Speaker 3: what is the guy's name who's always on the show
Speaker 3: with him, the singer.
Speaker 2: Boy George Honey.
Speaker 3: Sorry boy, George, amazing.
Speaker 2: Legend.
Speaker 3: Yes George, Like we get it. You no famous people.
Speaker 3: They come to your living room, they sing, you live
Speaker 3: the high life, you show it all. This is the
Speaker 3: opposite side of their life. And it's not fair to
Speaker 3: show viewers just the good and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: when it gets bad, say, we're gonna pick and choose
Speaker 3: what parts of our life we show. This is what
Speaker 3: you sign up for when you do the show, the good,
Speaker 3: the bad, and the ugly. And things have gotten ugly,
Speaker 3: and unfortunately in most cases, I have not only compassion
Speaker 3: for the situation. People deserve their privacy. But that's their job.
Speaker 3: This is her job, this is his job. They got
Speaker 3: paid for this, like, this is the job to show
Speaker 3: when life gets ugly. We are watching people's lives. We
Speaker 3: are not watching a movie. We signed up to watch
Speaker 3: your life. And when your life gets ugly, guess what
Speaker 3: we like watching too. It's gross, it's weird, but that's
Speaker 3: what it is we like watching. You can't then just
Speaker 3: say I don't want to show up for now, I refuse.
Speaker 1: Well, honey, you are preaching to the choir because I
Speaker 1: feel the exact same way, which leads me to Kyle.
Speaker 2: So the topic of Morgan was brought up.
Speaker 1: In this part one reunion, and Kyle pretty much was
Speaker 1: laser focused on Garseel because she said a Morgan did
Speaker 1: not want to be talked about on the show, and
Speaker 1: Kyle was respecting her wishes, which I'm like, I called
Speaker 1: that out after the episode when I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: clearly what's happening here. She did say though, that Morgan
Speaker 1: did not sign up to be on the show, and
Speaker 1: then Garcel said this season though, but she was last season,
Speaker 1: and then Kyle retorted by saying, well, you know, you
Speaker 1: told us not to talk about your children and we
Speaker 1: respected it, so why can't you respect not talking about Morgan.
Speaker 3: This is like me leaving my husband marrying Kim Kardashian
Speaker 3: and then saying, but I don't want any attention, like
Speaker 3: I'm sorry her life. Kyle's life is a reality show.
Speaker 3: Her family and her living has been made off of
Speaker 3: a reality show, and so are we again. Here we go.
Speaker 3: This is what we talk about. We get to pick
Speaker 3: and choose what we want to show. We get to
Speaker 3: see the love story like I mean, Mauricio Kyle, all
Speaker 3: the girls, the vacations, all of it. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: in I'm like, I want that in my life. I
Speaker 3: manifested that. We all did. We watched it. It was beautiful,
Speaker 3: and when it unfolded, all of a sudden, then there's
Speaker 3: like another person in the picture. I don't think it
Speaker 3: mattered that it's a man, a woman, whoever it is.
Speaker 3: It's just that there is, all of a sudden, a
Speaker 3: new love interest, and us, as viewers sitting at home
Speaker 3: who have complicated, messy relationships ourselves, wanted to see how
Speaker 3: this unfolded, and then all of a sudden, it's like
Speaker 3: that person didn't sign up for this. This is not storyline.
Speaker 3: No one will ever speak about it. I'm the Queen
Speaker 3: of Bravo, don't you dare? My life in Marito is perfect.
Speaker 3: We are living in co parents being wonderfully and I'm like, what,
Speaker 3: And you're sitting at home as if you were saying huh,
Speaker 3: there's some missing parts here. There's some missing parts, right,
Speaker 3: And the only part that was addressed was the picture
Speaker 3: of him and Abiza or wherever he was with a girl. Okay,
Speaker 3: they couldn't not address it because it was so heavily
Speaker 3: in the press, so they had to address something, and
Speaker 3: so they chose to address that. But I just didn't
Speaker 3: think it was fair. You can't bring a girl on
Speaker 3: the show, bring a girl into your life. Don't do
Speaker 3: the show if you don't want your private life spoken about.
Speaker 1: Hi, Aileen Davidson, No, I said, roxy, you are spitting facts, sister, wrong,
Speaker 1: go all listen.
Speaker 3: As a reality TV everyone wanted was thinking Carlos and
Speaker 3: Sutton because she can't screw up a relationship with her boss,
Speaker 3: could not say anything. So Garcel's like, hold on, why
Speaker 3: aren't we talking about Morgan? Like we're allowed to like
Speaker 3: pick into everything to do with Erica Jane's life, and
Speaker 3: yet this girl's been married for how many years? Then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden looks like she's perhaps maybe dating
Speaker 3: a woman, and now we're like, oh, we don't talk
Speaker 3: about it. That doesn't make sense. Like viewers at home
Speaker 3: are like, wait, what, where's the story of your life.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Oh I do? I do one husband? Still listen.
Speaker 3: I might have to get a security guard right outside
Speaker 3: my house, Queen, A Bravo might come for me. I
Speaker 3: love Kyle though, that's the truth. I love her. I
Speaker 3: just I think like she's over. My personal opinion is
Speaker 3: she's like, I don't want to share everything anymore. My
Speaker 3: life got into a place it's not so beautiful to share.
Speaker 3: And look, you know what, it's not fun sharing the messy.
Speaker 3: So she should have been out out. But you don't
Speaker 3: do the show and then not share. You just respectfully say,
Speaker 3: me and my husband are done. My relationship's not in
Speaker 3: a great place. My life's not in a great place.
Speaker 3: I'm bowing out. But if you're going to do the show,
Speaker 3: you owe it to the audience and fans who have
Speaker 3: bought into following your life for all of this stuff
Speaker 3: to share with them. It's like people always say to me, well,
Speaker 3: you didn't need to announce your pregnancy at this point,
Speaker 3: and then I go, yeah I did. People were so excited.
Speaker 3: Told them all about my fertility journey and my desire
Speaker 3: to fall in love, and then they watched it and
Speaker 3: they congratulated me on every post where I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm engaged. I've missed you, don't. It's not like there's
Speaker 3: a two way relationship there. They give you a business
Speaker 3: and a platform to speak your mind, and you give
Speaker 3: them access to your life. That's the deal.
Speaker 2: It is a deal.
Speaker 1: But it sounds like somebody may have made a deal
Speaker 1: with the devil, right because it is this weird thing
Speaker 1: that happens on the real house spots of Beverley Hills.
Speaker 1: And I want to talk to you about this because
Speaker 1: you actually live in Beverly Hills. Is the Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: culture that I think it is right is the fact
Speaker 1: that you don't talk about things publicly, and by publicly
Speaker 1: I mean outside of the zip code when it comes
Speaker 1: to the scandals happening in these wealthy people's lives, and
Speaker 1: if you do, you may get shun from attending the
Speaker 1: party where boy George may perform.
Speaker 3: And Elsa.
Speaker 1: So like, it's do you think the reason why the
Speaker 1: other ladies outside of Garcel? And again I'm on Garcal's
Speaker 1: side when it comes to asking the questions, and I
Speaker 1: feel like Garcel should. But when it comes to the
Speaker 1: culture of Beverley Hills, is the reason why none of
Speaker 1: those ladies wanted to talk about things that were in
Speaker 1: the press as it relates to Colin Morgan and Maurizio
Speaker 1: is because of the culture of that zip code, as
Speaker 1: someone like you who lives.
Speaker 3: There, well, not many of these women live in like
Speaker 3: I don't think any of these women actually live in
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills, like Collins the Beautiful Home and Encino, and
Speaker 3: so does Derey. I think the closest to Beverly Hills
Speaker 3: is probably Sutton. I think she lives in bel Air,
Speaker 3: I don't know. And Jennifer Tilly might live in Beverly Hills, but.
Speaker 1: And Erica Jane lives in Beverly Hills right now that
Speaker 1: house I thought I was in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: No, I think she lives in the valley. But there's
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with where they live. I'm not saying anything
Speaker 3: like that. I'm just saying I don't think they're in that.
Speaker 3: The only person who seems to be in that world
Speaker 3: are Sutton and Kyle, Like those are people I see
Speaker 3: out and about it things well, I mean, I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna hide my face now, never shut up, no offense.
Speaker 3: Hope they don't listen to your podcast Carlos Girl.
Speaker 2: They do lock lock your doors.
Speaker 3: Girl, I'll get they.
Speaker 2: All do just sell you down. Okay, well I give
Speaker 2: I get calls at a party.
Speaker 3: So then I say all of this about Kyle. I
Speaker 3: talk a big game, but I actually love Kyle. She's
Speaker 3: my favorite, She's one of my favorite housewives, and she's
Speaker 3: the one I've always identified with. So I say all
Speaker 3: of this lovingly. But I think the thing is is
Speaker 3: that it's like a hierarchy, right, It's like what I
Speaker 3: was talking about before. I think this is people's job
Speaker 3: as well, So no one wants to lose their job
Speaker 3: and kiss off the people that are in charge. And
Speaker 3: you can't if like someone say it like like I said,
Speaker 3: I've said it, and I've said it a million times.
Speaker 3: Kyle's the queen of the show. This is Kyle's show.
Speaker 3: If Kyle doesn't want something talked about, and then you
Speaker 3: go blurting your mouth talking about it, and honestly, maybe
Speaker 3: not ask back next season, because it does matter what
Speaker 3: the girls think of the cast. Like a girl can
Speaker 3: say if she if your lead cast is like, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to film with that girl anymore. She's so
Speaker 3: bad for my energy. Guess what she doesn't always come back.
Speaker 1: So this is when the cracks in the gar cell
Speaker 1: and in relationships started to form on part web reunion,
Speaker 1: and this is when again my vindication happened. Thank you
Speaker 1: rain Drows for office supporting being happy in my back and.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get the rain drops to come protect
Speaker 3: me from the ah. But can I just can we
Speaker 3: stay for the record, my love for some of these girls,
Speaker 3: like I do know it's okay, and I really love Erica.
Speaker 1: Now listen, my disclaimer is this in real life. Like
Speaker 1: you intimated earlier. What gives lost in this world is
Speaker 1: people being honest and just and just being honest about
Speaker 1: a particularly thing that happened. It doesn't negate your love
Speaker 1: for a person. I've said this once, I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: My rain drops know my favorite housewife is Kyle. I
Speaker 1: love her and that's that's never going to change. However,
Speaker 1: I'm going to call things as I see them as
Speaker 1: it relates to Kyle, but it doesn't negate my love
Speaker 1: for her.
Speaker 2: So this brings me yeah, so we're both on the
Speaker 2: same page.
Speaker 1: This brings me go to the downfall and the destruction
Speaker 1: of the alliance between Garcela and Sutton, because I don't
Speaker 1: know if you caught this, Roxy, but I did.
Speaker 2: When it was two things.
Speaker 1: When they started talking about Morgan, you could tell Garzilla
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not the only one who felt this way,
Speaker 1: or or no, I'm not the only.
Speaker 3: One woke up. That's I'm saying. Sudden kept her mouth shut.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then when they talked about the robbery of Dry, this.
Speaker 3: Was my most I didn't like this, Okay.
Speaker 1: So let me let me update the rain drops with this.
Speaker 1: So when it was brought up that Garcilla questioned the
Speaker 1: validity of the robbery that occurred at Durrett's house and
Speaker 1: how she intimated that somebody was in on it but
Speaker 1: not dere Derey obviously or rightfully.
Speaker 2: So had a very sort of reaction to that.
Speaker 1: And then Garcel said, I'm not the only one who
Speaker 1: felt this way, and I felt in that moment she
Speaker 1: was looking for Son to say, allegedly, you and I
Speaker 1: have this conversation to Sutton, but once again, this is
Speaker 1: the second time I'm being hung out too Dry, and
Speaker 1: that's why Gardsel and Ston alliance is now destructive.
Speaker 3: But go ahead, Roxy, Look, we talked about these off
Speaker 3: camera conversations. I can't imagine the stuff Sutton has said
Speaker 3: about Dury off camera, but clock it right, like Kyle Ugh, Yes,
Speaker 3: they've said some things off camera. Obviously, everyone talks off camera.
Speaker 3: They even referenced an off camera conversation that Kyle was having,
Speaker 3: Like everyone has camp conversations off camera and then they
Speaker 3: decide what they're gonna talk about on camera. That's just
Speaker 3: where we're at in life, in the world of reality.
Speaker 3: But when Garcel said that, I thought it was so nasty,
Speaker 3: Like this is a woman who has gone through a
Speaker 3: horrifying experience, like it is traumatizing to as a mom
Speaker 3: of two young kids, her babies were young, like traumatizing,
Speaker 3: And to suggest that I thought was really really nasty,
Speaker 3: because what are you saying about dry Like what you're
Speaker 3: saying is you wanted what media attention so bad, or
Speaker 3: like this was an insurance thing, or like what are
Speaker 3: you suggesting about her and her character that she would
Speaker 3: do something so horrific to her and her family for what?
Speaker 3: And so I thought that was like I really didn't
Speaker 3: like that she brought that up. Again. I thought it
Speaker 3: was like attacking a woman when she was down. But
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, she's like trying to like subtly like
Speaker 3: kick Sutton next to her and be like right Ston
Speaker 3: and something's just like buttoned up like a good Southern girl.
Speaker 3: Oh now you're quiet. Now you're quiet. Son who called
Speaker 3: her poor eat and like has said all these nasty
Speaker 3: things about money tour and then she's just like, I
Speaker 3: gotta sell my cashmere. Don't want to piss anyone off
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 2: Cashmere, not the Kashmir girl. But no, but but but but.
Speaker 3: But that's we also have to sell. We can't be
Speaker 3: too annoying.
Speaker 1: But in Garceel's defense, she never once said Dur was
Speaker 1: in on it.
Speaker 3: No, well what was she? No? No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: She but she said it in the flashback she did
Speaker 2: say it.
Speaker 3: That's not that. Well who was in on it? Benefit? Okay?
Speaker 3: So who was in on it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: My belief and Garcel, in my opinion, I don't think
Speaker 1: Garcel was confident enough to say this when she said
Speaker 1: in the flashback, when she.
Speaker 2: Said roll the tape, roll the tape.
Speaker 1: They rolled the tape, us the tape, and she said,
Speaker 1: I don't believe Dur was in on it. Now listen,
Speaker 1: anybody with the brain cell would no, you're intimating Pque was, Oh, my.
Speaker 3: Goodness, that's a horrible thing to say about someone. That's
Speaker 3: worse than anything these people have said. I'm sorry, like
Speaker 3: that back to me, the whole thing is just a really,
Speaker 3: really nasty thing to say, because her kids were involved.
Speaker 3: It was like watching that experience when it played out
Speaker 3: on camera and she shared she was so traumatized. She
Speaker 3: had so much trauma from that, and I think it
Speaker 3: changed her forever. And I just don't think. I thought
Speaker 3: it was really below the belt to go there. No,
Speaker 3: I didn't like that. That does not sit well with me. No,
Speaker 3: we don't mess with trauma. We don't mess with that
Speaker 3: kind of trauma. No, no, no, no, no, not when
Speaker 3: her kids are involved, not when she was involved, not
Speaker 3: when she was so open and vulnerable about how it's
Speaker 3: essentially was part of the breakdown of her marriage. Even so,
Speaker 3: the other thing, though, is this just to you know, also,
Speaker 3: like she lives and see how everyone gets broken into there,
Speaker 3: Like you live in a big, nice house and Encino
Speaker 3: and you're famous, you're getting broken into It's like people
Speaker 3: from La know that. So like it's a big problem
Speaker 3: in the valley, right, and so it's even weird to suggest,
Speaker 3: because if you're from LA, you know that they're having
Speaker 3: huge like that. That's a problem in LA in that
Speaker 3: particular neighborhood.
Speaker 2: No, no robberies.
Speaker 3: And I don't know that, but believe me, on the inside,
Speaker 3: everyone knows you live in your famous and you living
Speaker 3: in you know it's a big security issue.
Speaker 1: But there were people online talking about it. But this
Speaker 1: is why you got to be very careful when you
Speaker 1: are a reality star and you peruse through Twitter. There
Speaker 1: were people on Twitter who question this, right, just being honest. However, However,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you have to go on Twitter, read
Speaker 1: something and then repeat it. That's again, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: oursel dia that, but I do believe that because people
Speaker 1: on Twitter were saying it, and I believe allegedly allegedly
Speaker 1: guards and something both talked about it amongst themselves. Right,
Speaker 1: you believe that too, right for sure? And she really
Speaker 1: wanted something to have her back, but something new.
Speaker 2: If I admit to this, I'm fucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: So I can't go there. Not good for the cashmir Ah.
Speaker 2: I want to get to both. What are your thoughts
Speaker 2: on bows?
Speaker 3: I love her love I thought she had such like
Speaker 3: a breakout great season. It's so hard to come into
Speaker 3: such like a cast that has so much like history
Speaker 3: and so much depth and like have and get airtime
Speaker 3: while not being like the most obnoxious human. Like you
Speaker 3: can get airtime if you're like sleeping with your husband's
Speaker 3: sister's husband, you know what I mean. Okay, then they'll
Speaker 3: air that. But to come on and be graceful and
Speaker 3: get airtime while having like this beautiful life that actually
Speaker 3: hard to do in reality. And so I think she
Speaker 3: had an amazing season. I think she was bold. I
Speaker 3: thought she like did not hold back. She said things
Speaker 3: that she felt. I think she was like a voice
Speaker 3: of reason. I think she was something fresh. I loved her.
Speaker 3: I love her now.
Speaker 2: I love those too.
Speaker 1: Bose was listen if there wasn't a war, like how
Speaker 1: the Grammy's give our best.
Speaker 3: New artist, Oh yeah, best new housewife.
Speaker 2: Best new reality star.
Speaker 3: He held her own And I loved that, Like she
Speaker 3: really held her own in a cast of women who
Speaker 3: like when they have such deep, like deep relationships, it's
Speaker 3: hard to even insert yourself in the to get even airtime.
Speaker 3: They usually don't show. It's almost like a friend of
Speaker 3: when you're the new housewife you like hardly get any airtime,
Speaker 3: and both got lots of airtime. And I love that
Speaker 3: for her because I think she's like a great cast member.
Speaker 3: I think she had beautiful energy. I thought she also
Speaker 3: like kind of put some of these women in their place,
Speaker 3: being like, you know you're you know, you're real crazy.
Speaker 2: Yes, No, that's why I loved her too.
Speaker 1: So we got a chance to really understand Bowse this reunion.
Speaker 1: One thing that Bos did say and I would love
Speaker 1: to get her thoughts on this being a former housewife yourself.
Speaker 1: Bows did admit that when she got the gig of
Speaker 1: being a housewife that her and Garsel had lunch for dinner, whatever,
Speaker 1: and she told Garcel like.
Speaker 2: Okay, girl, give me the T, give me the T,
Speaker 2: give the tea.
Speaker 1: And Garseel said, no, I want you to get to
Speaker 1: know these ladies for yourself. And Bo said, that's what
Speaker 1: she appreciated about Garsel, because Garceel really did encourage her
Speaker 1: like get to know these women on your own, and
Speaker 1: that's why she was able to go into her first
Speaker 1: all castine meeting DERII and connecting with her. What did
Speaker 1: you think about that being revealed at this reunion? Do
Speaker 1: you think it was a chess move that what Garsel did,
Speaker 1: or do you think Bows wanted the world to know
Speaker 1: that Garcel helped her in this way?
Speaker 3: When where was I when she said that. I don't
Speaker 3: even remember her saying that. She said that, Yeah, that
Speaker 3: what I think is a chess move. Okay, I didn't
Speaker 3: hear that. Maybe I was like looking at my phone
Speaker 3: at that time, like, you know, we're distracted here. But
Speaker 3: if she said that, I think that's a power move.
Speaker 3: That's a power move saying you came to me to
Speaker 3: not be authentic, and I graced upon you my advice
Speaker 3: to be authentic. I think that's what that is. I
Speaker 3: think that is a power move. I think that anyone
Speaker 3: going into a New Housewives cast always tries to meet
Speaker 3: the cast and sit down and get the tea. Everybody
Speaker 3: says they aren't, Oh come on, you do your homework,
Speaker 3: you watch the show, you try and meet up with
Speaker 3: the women. You're trying to get a sense of what
Speaker 3: you're walking into. So I think that's totally normal, totally
Speaker 3: normal to like want to kind of and you're not
Speaker 3: really like getting the tea, you're just like, Okay, tell
Speaker 3: me about these women, Like, let's get to know what
Speaker 3: am I getting into it? What am I getting myself
Speaker 3: into here? And then but for Garcel to would announce okay.
Speaker 2: Noose, No, Garcell didn't reveal this, bos.
Speaker 3: Did Oh okay, then sorry, I take that back. I
Speaker 3: thought you were saying Garcel like said that.
Speaker 1: No Bose Bows revealed this, and I felt it was
Speaker 1: a way for Bows to reveal that Garcel had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to talk shit about the girls and she didn't.
Speaker 1: I thought that was very nice of Bose, and that's
Speaker 1: why that's why I love bowls, and that's why I
Speaker 1: think it's weird of how people online are attacking Bows
Speaker 1: because they did not like Bows inserting herself in the
Speaker 1: dialogue between Dearit and Garcel when it came to the
Speaker 1: accusation that the robbery was shut up.
Speaker 3: I love that she stuck up for Jurid. I'm sorry
Speaker 3: what Carcel said to me was totally out of line,
Speaker 3: and no one is sticking up for Jerid for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: And I thought it was amazing of her to say,
Speaker 3: hold on a second, that's a pretty big statement to me,
Speaker 3: and I think Duri needed that, like even just Bose
Speaker 3: at such a presence. I was like looking at the
Speaker 3: cast when they're sitting on the couch and like, Duri's
Speaker 3: this like almost looks like, you know, frail, and then
Speaker 3: Bose's this like strong imposing force and you're like, it's
Speaker 3: like a nice energy to She's like this, she's strong,
Speaker 3: and she looks like like she's she's got a force,
Speaker 3: let's say. And so I just even hearing her speak
Speaker 3: up next to Juri, durit was almost like frail next
Speaker 3: to her, nervous about the whole thing. And then Bose
Speaker 3: is like this strong force. I like loved even seeing that.
Speaker 3: I thought Duri needed that. Duri this season looks like
Speaker 3: a woman who's struggling. She's clearly struggling, and so I
Speaker 3: don't love that everyone's like, oh, okay, well you're struggling,
Speaker 3: let's just start kicking. No, you don't kick people when
Speaker 3: you're down. At the end of the day, I don't
Speaker 3: care what you say about these women. These are real
Speaker 3: relationships and this is someone who's really going through something.
Speaker 3: When your husband writes in a like a note to
Speaker 3: Bravo to say, FYI, you're a lost woman, and I
Speaker 3: hope you return to the good woman you were one
Speaker 3: day you're so far from that, Like, that's nasty stuff.
Speaker 3: You're gonna do that on public and knowing that your
Speaker 3: kids are gonna read it one day, but the mother
Speaker 3: of your children, this is nasty. Imagine what's happening behind
Speaker 3: closed doors. The fact that Duried stayed that composed is
Speaker 3: a miracle because clearly that is a man who is
Speaker 3: being nasty. I'm not saying she's not being nasty back.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying this is clearly a gross situation. And
Speaker 3: I felt she was pretty graceful considering what is clearly
Speaker 3: a very hard situation she's navigating. And I like the
Speaker 3: boast of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did too, because my thing is this is
Speaker 1: one of those things where the reunion stage is for
Speaker 1: everybody to get everything out. Some people felt that bows
Speaker 1: is not your business, stay out of it.
Speaker 2: I'll watch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My thing is like the reunion stage is the opportunity
Speaker 1: for everybody to insert themselves and everyone's business.
Speaker 2: So I don't think Bo's are anything wrong.
Speaker 3: No, the show is get involved in each other's business.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what are we watching. We're not watching like
Speaker 3: the Megan as Ever or whatever it's called show about cooking.
Speaker 3: We're watching a show about women getting involved in each
Speaker 3: other's lives and then talking about it and their relationships unfolding,
Speaker 3: Like so that's the show. So this is what I
Speaker 3: get frustrated with with fans. Okay, here's the problem, Carlos.
Speaker 3: They want everyone to be open, and then they want
Speaker 3: people to also be the most manicured, filtered versions of themselves.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, entertain us, but then don't say the
Speaker 3: wrong word. And it's like, look, if you want people
Speaker 3: to truly be entertaining, to be themselves, to be authentic,
Speaker 3: they cannot be so nervous about being censored in every word.
Speaker 3: They've got to be able to like sometimes say ortlandish things,
Speaker 3: sometimes say things will get them in trouble, sometimes say
Speaker 3: the wrong thing, the right thing. They just need to
Speaker 3: be able to be free. So we can't hold them
Speaker 3: to this like, well, I didn't like that she said
Speaker 3: these three words about to read, or I didn't like
Speaker 3: the Just let them let them talk.
Speaker 2: That's the show it is.
Speaker 1: And speaking of which, this is the reunion, and I
Speaker 1: want to address something that a lot of people are
Speaker 1: saying a lot of people felt that Garsell was ganged
Speaker 1: up on. And I want to start off by saying
Speaker 1: this as somebody who creates shows, as somebody who produces reunions,
Speaker 1: and as somebody who hosts reunions myself.
Speaker 2: Okay, once again, audience.
Speaker 1: The reunion stage is for people to address everything they
Speaker 1: watch on the show. Not everything is said to their faces.
Speaker 1: A lot of things are said in the confessionals, I
Speaker 1: love me some Garsel. Garcel says a lot of things
Speaker 1: about these women not to their faces.
Speaker 2: So what else do y'all want them to do?
Speaker 1: So when Erica Jane said I don't find you that interesting,
Speaker 1: and Garcel was like, well, that's a shitty thing to say.
Speaker 2: But then when she storms out, interested in her agreement with.
Speaker 1: Sudden, she goes, I can't believe Erica said that, what
Speaker 1: do you want me to do?
Speaker 2: Have a criminal storyline?
Speaker 1: Ab activities and like those are things. I'm like, Garcel,
Speaker 1: you're proving that point. Say that ship on the stage.
Speaker 1: Why are you reading.
Speaker 2: Erica for filth, which, by the way, was to read
Speaker 2: and I love to read.
Speaker 1: But the point is, this is why the audience doesn't
Speaker 1: understand a lot of watching it without blinders. They're coming
Speaker 1: for Garsel because Garcel is a confessional gangster and she
Speaker 1: proved that at the reunion. She's sat on that stage
Speaker 1: and said nothing besides, I don't like this.
Speaker 2: That was a shitty thing to say.
Speaker 1: Well I thought that, But then when she's in her
Speaker 1: green room with Sutton, she's reading everybody for filth. So she, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: and I love garselve unfortunately, she's proving their point by
Speaker 1: every time you talk about us, you don't say to
Speaker 1: our faces. When she made that comment about p K
Speaker 1: and Derey and the robbery, she didn't say it to
Speaker 1: Dure's face.
Speaker 2: When she made the comments about.
Speaker 1: Sutton and Kyle and how Sutton is striving for Kyle's
Speaker 1: approval or attention, she didn't say that to Sutton's face.
Speaker 1: So when you're on that stage at a reunion, people
Speaker 1: where their cast gets to see things that they don't
Speaker 1: get a chance to witness and person, it's their opportunity
Speaker 1: to address it. So stop saying they ganged up on Garsel. No,
Speaker 1: Garsel had to be held accountable for the thing she
Speaker 1: said without them being present, and that's exactly what they
Speaker 1: were doing.
Speaker 3: Well, there you got, there you go? Was that question
Speaker 3: I made.
Speaker 2: You want to chime in, Hunter, you can, but that
Speaker 2: was my declaration.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think that's the take. That is the take.
Speaker 3: I think Garcel also was like, I'm fucking over this.
Speaker 3: You girls are bitches, and I've already not signed next
Speaker 3: to season, like you know, she's already No, she's when
Speaker 3: she's she's like, I'm out of here, I'm working on
Speaker 3: my things, I'm doing my things. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 3: dealing with this bullshit. But then behind the scenes, when
Speaker 3: you like bitch to your friends, you fucking girls are
Speaker 3: like really up in my business, like and so I
Speaker 3: think she's just sort of like venting naturally. But then
Speaker 3: she's not going to like put herselves out there and
Speaker 3: like engage in fire because it's stressful being an Orenian
Speaker 3: is like talking to having to confront these problems. I
Speaker 3: think she's just sort of over it. That's my impression.
Speaker 1: It was the moment she said down I had I
Speaker 1: had third seat.
Speaker 2: I think she was over it.
Speaker 3: I think yeah, no, she was like, I'm not getting them,
Speaker 3: hold I'm not.
Speaker 2: I think she was over it.
Speaker 1: And again when she left the stage and she pretty
Speaker 1: much was like, you know these women on my friends,
Speaker 1: fuck these girls. Obviously something is included in that. So
Speaker 1: when something came knocking on the.
Speaker 2: Door and goes, well, how are you feeling? And she
Speaker 2: goes not good. I'm like, God, I say, I'll tell
Speaker 2: Son to her face how you feel.
Speaker 3: That's why I just didn't understand why she had to
Speaker 3: bring up the like Threet robbery from last year. I
Speaker 3: was like, you're already on your Leo, why are you
Speaker 3: got to throw that Jabin Like, I feel like she
Speaker 3: has so much that she wants to say. I feel
Speaker 3: like she's resentment towards Dreiy, like she doesn't like Dai
Speaker 3: and it's like boiling up and she has like something
Speaker 3: she wants to get off her chest about her that's
Speaker 3: of like a mean And I don't know why she
Speaker 3: needed to say it. She could have just walked off
Speaker 3: like it didn't need to be brought up. It wasn't
Speaker 3: even part of the season.
Speaker 1: Where do you think the cast goes from here? Because
Speaker 1: we do know Garcel left. We have a cast full
Speaker 1: of women where the only friendship I believe is strong
Speaker 1: is the friendship between dury Bose and Erica.
Speaker 2: And I believe that.
Speaker 1: I believe that Kyle and Erica are close, and I
Speaker 1: believe Sutton is just something just wants desperately to be
Speaker 1: Kyle's friend because of the status that Kyle has in California.
Speaker 1: But it's going to be interesting to see something without
Speaker 1: Garcel because I'm going to predict this. I'm always right.
Speaker 1: Suton is going to come in next season saying I
Speaker 1: just want to have fun this season, I'm going to
Speaker 1: have fun. She's not going to get into with everybody.
Speaker 1: She's going to be so boring. I promise you. Sudden
Speaker 1: teeth that she has when she's insane, like the kick
Speaker 1: she has and just the grit, We're not going to
Speaker 1: see that because she does not want to be iced
Speaker 1: out because she lost the only alliance that she had.
Speaker 1: And I promise you she is going to really be
Speaker 1: nice to Drey. I promise you that.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I didn't like. Would did you
Speaker 3: catch that part when like basically Kyle was saying to
Speaker 3: Dread or implying to Dread if you didn't want to
Speaker 3: be back this season, like I wouldn't have you back,
Speaker 3: Like they were talking about how well you're friends with
Speaker 3: the producer, so you would know if I wasn't aspect
Speaker 3: like she was basically implying that the drama around her
Speaker 3: divorce was like a storyline to get her back on
Speaker 3: the show. Did did you guys pick up on that?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 2: I did? I did?
Speaker 1: But calling Kyle out like it's your show continue but
Speaker 1: go ahay Roxy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was like, hold on a second, this
Speaker 3: is a weird position for Duriid because once, like I said,
Speaker 3: you go against your boss, you go against like you.
Speaker 3: You want to go against things, you know, you ruffle feathers.
Speaker 3: And I think like Dorie like showed up this season
Speaker 3: and was actually honest and open about things she was feeling,
Speaker 3: and she like spoke up for herself, and I feel
Speaker 3: like very much she has secured a next season. But
Speaker 3: they either need to do two things. All these women
Speaker 3: need to move forward together, and like, let's see how
Speaker 3: all of this unfolds. Let's see what life for Durid
Speaker 3: is like next season with the new world that she's navigating.
Speaker 3: Let's see what Kyle's world is like with her kids
Speaker 3: moved out and her husband gone, and now what that
Speaker 3: looks like for her. We need to see all of
Speaker 3: this unfolds together or we need to complete redo, Like
Speaker 3: it's I don't, I don't. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 3: very hard for them to bring new people in and
Speaker 3: integrate them in. I think it's I think like it's
Speaker 3: either got to be a new, fresh take or we've
Speaker 3: got to watch. We've got to continue to watch this
Speaker 3: group because they're so intertwined unfold together. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: It does make sense, yea.
Speaker 3: Because I just don't think everyone has enough that they're
Speaker 3: willing to share a show on their own to like
Speaker 3: carry them being on their own, Like what's Kyle going
Speaker 3: to show in her personal life? Like is she gonna
Speaker 3: be able to carry the show if she didn't have
Speaker 3: these relationships and history with Dori and with with Sutton
Speaker 3: and with well her relationship is new with Bose, But
Speaker 3: like is there I think like they're so entrenched that
Speaker 3: that's the story now, is their relationships, because no one
Speaker 3: has like a personal life that is you really want
Speaker 3: a spotlight on. I mean, let's be serious. Everyone's kind
Speaker 3: of in a situation that was kind of sad this season,
Speaker 3: Like we watched relationships that we loved fall apart. We
Speaker 3: watched we watched beautiful marriages that had children involve, you know, dissolve,
Speaker 3: and like that's sad, So we don't want to spotlight
Speaker 3: on their personal life. So instead the spotlight is on
Speaker 3: their personal lives together, their relationships, and so I think
Speaker 3: they all either need to progress together or when Kyle's
Speaker 3: decided she just wants to go to Aspen, then they're
Speaker 3: all cut Cayle, those AskMen and she's like, I'm done
Speaker 3: with this. And when she's ready to be done, I
Speaker 3: think then the whole past will need a refresh. And
Speaker 3: if she's not ready to be done, I think everything
Speaker 3: carries forward with her, and the relationships that are close
Speaker 3: to Kyle will carry forward. That's just my two cents.
Speaker 3: Like I said, tell the to send just secure you
Speaker 3: to my home and love.
Speaker 2: We will make that up. We'll make that happen. Roxy.
Speaker 1: Well, look, thank you so much for coming in to
Speaker 1: recap this episode. I'm so happy we did this together
Speaker 1: and once again let them know where that can find you,
Speaker 1: follow you and support you on social media and everything
Speaker 1: else you have going on.
Speaker 3: Roxy, So well, thank you. This was so fun. Carlos.
Speaker 3: I end it with I love all of them. I'm
Speaker 3: well some of them. I'm sending love to many. I'm
Speaker 3: sending love into the universe, and I hope all of
Speaker 3: these women from Beverly Hills as the season wraps, like
Speaker 3: go on to live like happy and peaceful, loving lives.
Speaker 3: So I want I want the best for them because
Speaker 3: I love them and they've entertained us, and then for me.
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Speaker 2: Ill love it all right, rain jobs.
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