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Speaker 2: So yeah, sixteen fifty Magical Negro was the episode we

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Speaker 2: Well, I disagree with that, you know, and and but

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, it's just wild like that.

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Speaker 5: I just opt not to tap into that, but everybody

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Speaker 2: Great show is always you to a happy New Year, Karen.

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Speaker 1: And then the poll was able fool's porn yeah or nay? Nay?

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Speaker 2: Seventy five percent of y'all say no, So twenty five

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Speaker 1: Jared says.

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Speaker 2: While I am for this idea, I can only imagine

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Speaker 3: I'm not right.

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Speaker 3: I know who's watching porn to be ethical?

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure that's that's somebody's kink, But in general,

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Speaker 5: Seen some of it in it's decent, but truth be told,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's really looking for that scum baggery and we

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Speaker 1: Come on, that's like they know why you game, you

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Speaker 1: know whatever? All right? We had episode sixteen fifty two.

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Speaker 2: We had the guys from Three Guys on on the show.

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Speaker 2: White people going to white, even fictional white characters. Kochie

442
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 2: Nagger says, I had I mean, I agree. I watched

443
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Speaker 2: Roseanne a little bit when I was coming up, and

444
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 2: I always thought the show was like progressively groundbreaking, but

445
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 2: you know, and it was funny, you know, And I

446
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 2: have no doubt in my mind that this show is funny,

447
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: Like I'm sure the new show is funny too, But

448
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: it's just about can people take the racial stereotypes or

449
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: the jokes or or whatever about you know, the Trump

450
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: stuff and laughing at people taking the knee and shit

451
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 2: like that. And I think we're at the time in

452
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: our country where a lot of us that are black

453
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: have other venues of entertainment that we can support now,

454
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: and we didn't necessarily have that when Roseanne was coming up.

455
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: You know, now, if you have Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, all

456
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: these cable channels have TV shows, Why should I stop

457
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: what I'm doing to watch them watch Roseanne when I

458
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: can just go turn it to you know, my DVR,

459
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: to own Demand or to Netflix or Amazon or something

460
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: and just watch something that I don't have to worry about,

461
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: you know, pissing me off?

462
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: So right.

463
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Speaker 5: And the thing is, Roseanne has the right to have

464
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Speaker 5: that show. ABC has the right to allow her to

465
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Speaker 5: do that. I don't have no problem with the show

466
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 5: in the in the cons I mean, but I just

467
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with her having the right

468
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 5: to have the show and all that other shit. I

469
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 5: think my problem comes in is if you have if

470
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Speaker 5: you get that show Blackish, yall, I shouldn't have been

471
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 5: able to do the need not turn funny if if, if.

472
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Speaker 3: We're going to be neutral, let's be neutral across the board.

473
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Speaker 5: Let's not pick sides on a lot of shit, Like

474
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 5: we're not gonna pick size, let's not pick size on

475
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 5: any side.

476
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: Then Yeah, that's one of the things, you know, I'm

477
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: consistently talking about just in my life.

478
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't boycott anything.

479
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: So it's not even like a political stance of like

480
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna boycott this show, I'm gonna show Rose and

481
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. It's just a very like matter of fact,

482
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: there's other shit to watch, and I'm not hella pressed

483
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 2: to watch a Trump supporting family. I'll be okay without this,

484
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: you know, I'll watch some I watch Atlanta that I

485
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 2: have too much good TV. I'm behind on for me

486
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: to be worried about this show. But like I said,

487
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: I also do understand people kind of mourning the loss

488
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: of a woman that was a very progressive figure when

489
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: we were coming up, who you know, essentially just acts

490
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 2: like she's lost her mind. Correct, Kochie Nigger says, I

491
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: had to stop the play back to see the muppets

492
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: bone thus video.

493
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Speaker 1: How did I miss this? Yes, all of them uppets

494
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: singing cross Road. It's pretty cool.

495
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Speaker 5: And that that one is fucking hilarious. Oh and one

496
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 5: more thing, one more thing about the rose Inne thing. Also,

497
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 5: the thing about the Roseanne thing is that it pisces

498
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 5: people off that you could see the blatant racism not

499
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 5: in Roseanne the show, but it rose in the person.

500
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 5: How she's been showing ass on social media, but yet

501
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 5: she keeped the job. You let a nigger or brown

502
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 5: person go and be doing and saying and just acting

503
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 5: up on social media, the show probably would be canceled

504
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 5: by now.

505
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean look how they did Jamil Hill.

506
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: You know, like that's like the unfairness of it all

507
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: is really what I think bothers a lot of people.

508
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if they have the words to express it,

509
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: but that's what.

510
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: I think it is.

511
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: It's the clear double standard of you know, a person

512
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: that was black saying these kind of things on that network.

513
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: If Kenya Birds was out here saying these type of things,

514
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: it would have been like yo, Blackest got canceled or

515
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: the creator got fired or something, because you know, you

516
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: can't be out here tweeting conspiracy theories and deleting it

517
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Speaker 2: five minutes later.

518
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Speaker 1: You know, stuff like that. But you know, this is

519
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: a Trump's America now, so so I guess it's okay

520
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: for her. But Leah, like you.

521
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: Said, I'm not really I don't really have a problem

522
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: with the show.

523
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: Even she can do the north.

524
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: Like when Andy described the joke about taking a knee,

525
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: I actually thought that joke is funny, like the whole

526
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: like Jackie, you won't take a knee, And I'm like, oh, yeah,

527
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: because she's a liberal one, I get like, I get

528
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: the joke, Like I'm not. I'm just I'm just more

529
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: flabbergasted by how people can't see the obvious bias of

530
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: a new of a station that will say, you know,

531
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: Rosene bar can say what she wants on Twitter. She

532
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: can have this show that picks fun at the fact

533
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Speaker 2: that we have a black show.

534
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: And that agent show on ABC. It can make fun.

535
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: Of athletes that take a knee, but you know what

536
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: black is, you can't talk about it even though you

537
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: have a black show. The taking a knee conversation is

538
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: the biggest, one of the biggest conversations, not the biggest

539
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: conversation in sports for black people, and you're like, we're

540
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 2: gonna pretend that part of the conversation doesn't exist because

541
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Speaker 2: we don't feel comfortable with it.

542
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Speaker 1: That's that's that bullshit.

543
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: It man, Charle says, I wish Roseanne will retire, but

544
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: she won't. I agree with book with shoe bab the

545
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: Connors were not right wingers back in the day.

546
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: But also, like she says, white people.

547
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: Going to white hashtag white nonsense, Alice right saying, it

548
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you think Chappelle's trans.

549
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: Jokes were not that bad or whatever.

550
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: A bunch of trans people have said it was hurtful,

551
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: since people do not get to decide what is or

552
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: is not transphobic. Not only do I agree, nobody said

553
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 2: the opposite.

554
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: Nobody said the opposite.

555
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: You know it's funny with stand up because I believe

556
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: this and I will always stand by. But I don't

557
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: really get to decide what the fuck is funny or

558
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: not funny for everybody else. I can only tell you

559
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: what I laughed at, what I thought was funny, what

560
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: I thought was good. And we're in an era now

561
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: where motherfuckers judge you for laughing, right, So it's it's

562
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: even with that shit, you know, I normally try not

563
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: to even share like oh yeah, I like this or

564
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: I like that, because.

565
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Speaker 1: It's it's just it's not worth it.

566
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: The main thing I would say, though, is we said

567
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: on the show at the time, and I went on

568
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: a long tangent about it right after Randolph finished talking

569
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: because he brought up one of the jokes.

570
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's I don't get you don't get to

571
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: tell somebody else they have to laugh, right, And the

572
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: conversation we had on the show was about how.

573
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Speaker 2: I feel as a black man who is you know,

574
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: on the liberal side of things. It feels kind of

575
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: disappointing even that so many of my like comedic contemporaries, heroes,

576
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them, people I looked up to,

577
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: have decided to be like, fuck it, I'm stuck here,

578
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: like I'm a black I'm a black man, and I'm

579
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: never developing my act or my furthering my thought beyond

580
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: the very simple shit that I could have said in

581
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: the nineties in the two thousands, like it's twenty eighteen.

582
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: I would love to hear, and I'm not saying they

583
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: obligated to and obviously they the one making a special,

584
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: and they selling out the room and they making all

585
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: the money. So it's not like I'm like representative of

586
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I don't think I'm representative of

587
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I think I'm representative of a

588
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: very small minority of people. But the truth of the

589
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: matter is I would love to see somebody like.

590
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: A Chapelle lending their voice to.

591
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: To inclusiveness and things of this nature, because I think

592
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: he is a person that can be funny and make

593
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: that funny. I agree, but he decided not to, and

594
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: that to me that it's sad that he decided not

595
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: to because he is so dope, But.

596
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: That's his right.

597
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: I don't get to tell him. I either get to

598
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: watch the special, not watch special. Think it's funny, not

599
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 2: think it's funny.

600
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Whatever.

601
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: But you'll never hear me give any fucking room for

602
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: being like he's not transphobic.

603
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: Or it's not that bad. You won't ever hear him

604
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: say that.

605
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 3: That's time we talked about it.

606
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked. Now, maybe you're new to listening to

607
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: the show.

608
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: I think this was your first comment, so maybe it's

609
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: just your new We've talked about this at length on

610
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: the show. We've had people right in and tell us

611
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: you shouldn't say Dave Chappelle is transphobic, or well, what's

612
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: so wrong with the jokes, and we broke it down,

613
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And like I said, I

614
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: do all this not from a perch on high I'm

615
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: morally better than you, but just to simply say, like,

616
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: some things are facts, and you have to deal with

617
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: how you feel about the fact. You know, the fact

618
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: of the matter is those jokes are transphobic. You know,

619
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: maybe not the one where you said, the very specific

620
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: one they ran out talked about, but nigga, that's twenty

621
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: minutes of transphobic jokes around that one joke.

622
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: Anyway, so it's not you know. And then he had

623
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Speaker 1: a whole special before that.

624
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: They had like twenty minute five maybe five or ten minutes,

625
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: but still a whole nother transphobic section. Riggy Gervais has

626
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: a transphobic section. Fucking Marlon Wayne's has a transphobic section.

627
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what makes Dave Chapelle able to quote

628
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: unquote pull it off for more people than Ricky Gervais

629
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: or Marlon Wayin's, but I think all of the jokes

630
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: are kind of crash and not well thought out, and

631
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: they feel hacked to me. Now, I can't decide what

632
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: other people think, but for me, they feel hack more

633
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: than anything else. Everyone makes the you're gonna cut your

634
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: dick off joke, Everyone makes the fucking like, uh, it's

635
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Jenner and he was Bruce Jenner. I'm a misgender him.

636
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: Isn't that funny? Like they do this like angry rant

637
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: on stage because that's the perspective that they have. But

638
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: to me, it's not really funny. But I don't know

639
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: what to say when a whole room of people is

640
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: laughing and people walking around calling people the best ever

641
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: and saying they're brave for basically being transphobic. I don't

642
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: know what to do with that environment, you know what

643
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: I mean the same way I don't know what to

644
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: do with the environment that you know, calls white people

645
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: men brave for calling saying racist shit that call me

646
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: and brave for being misogynistic, Like that's the brave state.

647
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: The thing that has existed on this earth for thousands

648
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: of years is the bravest stance you can take right now,

649
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: Fuck out of my face. So no, I don't believe it,

650
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: you know, at any rate. But all that being said,

651
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't get to decide if Dave Chappelle gets another special.

652
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't get to.

653
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: Decide how people review his shit. And he has decided

654
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: that this is the hell he will die. He's gonna

655
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: figure a way out to talk about trans people badly,

656
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: and people are.

657
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Gonna give him a pass. Like I said when we

658
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Speaker 1: talked to.

659
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: Randolph, at this point, Dave Chappelle can make people laugh

660
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: about anything, right, and he gets licensed to do ten

661
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: to fifteen minutes straight of no jokes in the middle

662
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: of his sets. It's like he a comedy god. He

663
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: just get to do whatever the fuck you want to do.

664
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: So how would he ever know that he's wrong because

665
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: he can always come back and make you laugh about

666
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: how wrong he is. And then that's what happens. People go, well,

667
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: it couldn't be that bad, you know. And I've heard

668
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: people who have said he's not transphobic or the jokes

669
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: aren't transphobic, but they always are from transphobic people. I mean,

670
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: I think everybody has some transphobia in them, but it's

671
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: always from people who are very blatantly like that. And

672
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: I think what bothers me and gets to me the

673
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: most is how often those voices are black men, like

674
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: Sis had, Black men that want to be part of

675
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: this wave of making sure that we have these attitudes

676
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: that we know in danger and oppress a huge part

677
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: of our own community, And yet we won't want like

678
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: and yet we don't understand how we can be a

679
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: menace at times when we when we do that kind

680
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: of shit, the things we say about women. We can

681
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: be a menace at times when we do that kind

682
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: of shit, but we don't want to take any responsibility

683
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: because hey, I'm a black man and I'm also oppressed.

684
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: You know, cops see me and shoot me. I can

685
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: get killed and nobody will care, like nobody will stop.

686
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Okay, cool, you're right, that's wrong. I

687
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: agree we should so should be done about that, and

688
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm on your side. But then if I if that happened,

689
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: that same thing happened to a trans person, you'd be like, yeah,

690
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: fuck that. I don't have to care, and that that

691
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: shit bothers me. But you know, anyway, I just want

692
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: to be on record. It's funny that Andy said people

693
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: will people get so uptight these days are so scared

694
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: to laugh that the second so one even brings up

695
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: a topic, they start.

696
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Hearing what they want to hear.

697
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: And this is this is how this feels, because that's

698
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: not what happened in that conversation. You know, like Dave

699
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: Chapelle definitely has transphobic jokes, and I don't get to

700
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: decide how bad they are. And other people can say

701
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: it's not bad to them, because I also don't get

702
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: to decide for them.

703
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: But I think it's bad. I'll just leave it at that,

704
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, so.

705
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: But I appreciate you right now, Jane says, I totally

706
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: missed the second guess, the race the mom who takes

707
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: their son to get them up for Easter church. I

708
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: didn't realize black had upgraded from leather belts to extension

709
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: cords to tass. I ain't technology grand Come on, I

710
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: know kids getting their ass with tases. Now that's the

711
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: wild shit. Even he says, I haven't watched Roseanne's reboot

712
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: even Yo. By the way, this is another thing that

713
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 2: gets on my nerves. Man, It's really difficult to watch.

714
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: And this is just this intersection I live at, or

715
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: just this this the things I can't help but notice

716
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: it's really difficult to watch people talk about how they won't.

717
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: Watch the Roseanne reboot and it's not funny.

718
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 2: But they were the same motherfuckers that were like up

719
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: in arms at anyone that had a word to say

720
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: about Chappelle and his transfho of you, Like, I don't understand,

721
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: how can't you see it's.

722
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: The same fucking thing, you know what I mean?

723
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: Like, how can't you see that the impulse that the

724
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: white that white people who love Roseanne right now, the

725
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: same anger they have towards us to like, how these niggers,

726
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch this show, fuck with their it's funny.

727
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: So if you can't make jokes and let you agree

728
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: with him and shit like that, that's the same thing

729
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: I heard people saying about the Chappelle shit. And Dave

730
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: Chappelle is a man who quit his job because a

731
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 2: white person laughed wrong at the wrong part of his joke.

732
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle's the same.

733
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: Dude that had a long ass like rant on I

734
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: think it was Oprah interview or whatever about how he

735
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: would never wear a dress as a black male comedian

736
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: because of how they try to domean black male comedians

737
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: by putting them in dresses, and so he understands the

738
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: nuances and the psychological warfare and all this shit when

739
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 2: it comes to this stuff. But yet if you bring

740
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: up this transphobic shit, he completely opts the fuck out.

741
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: And it's frustrating because I know he can get it,

742
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 2: and I know he probably does get it, but when

743
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: it comes to that, it's just jokes. But it's never

744
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: just really jokes with him, because that dude is a

745
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: political commentator. That dude is a philosopher at times when

746
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: he wants to be. People will repeat his bits for

747
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: years because they resonate, like the Clayton Bisbie shit or

748
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: the you know or even like you know, his bit

749
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: about you know, white people reading a paper killing niggas

750
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: an't left jazz and shit like that, like even some

751
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: of those jokes gentrification we talked about DC. Like maybe

752
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: he didn't quote unquote mean to be that guy. Maybe

753
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: that's the whole point. But I know he can get it,

754
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: and he's emblematic of a lot of brothers, a lot

755
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: of brothers that can get it.

756
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: That's sharp.

757
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: They just don't want to get it when they're on

758
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: the other side of that equation.

759
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: Well, it's not convenient, then fuck it. But I've seen

760
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: so many.

761
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: Niggas opine about like I won't support Roseanne. It is

762
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: normalizing Trump votings, which is normalizing racism, which is normalizing bigotry,

763
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: and we shouldn't do this is sanitizing this, da da da,

764
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: And they have all these things to say. And then

765
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: if I say, well, isn't Chappelle kind of normalizing transphobia

766
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: and isn't that like some shit that he can improve on? Man,

767
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: First of all, if you don't think it's funny, fuck

768
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: you don't watch. Okay, Okay, we get stuck here again.

769
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: So it's frustrating. But as a black man, this is

770
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: the world I live in.

771
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: These are my.

772
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: Peers, these are my contemporaries. If I had to if

773
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: I was only friends with niggas dad was on the

774
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: shit I was on, I wouldn't have no friends, to

775
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: be honest, That's how fucked up it is.

776
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: Eve.

777
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: He says, I haven't watched the Roseanne reboot. Even though

778
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: I used to watch the original series and enjoyed it,

779
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: I won't watch it now because frankly, Roseanne is a

780
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: horrible person.

781
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: And while I try to separate the person from the art.

782
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: I refuse to support that.

783
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: The fact that dope, that dope forty five called to

784
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: congratulate her stealed it from me. They're trying to normalize

785
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: its presidency, and I want no part of it. Roseanne

786
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: is basically trying to get people to say, even though

787
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: you voted for the jackass.

788
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: You're not a horrible person. Right, Well, she's just the

789
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: latest one to do it, and they've been looking for

790
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: a vehicle to do it, and she has really found

791
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: a way to capitalize on it so far. I heard

792
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: the second rating. Second week ratings were very strong as well.

793
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, like twenty some million people, and that wasn't even

794
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: including like the DV, Like a lot of people actually

795
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 5: watched that she lies m m. That wouldn't include in

796
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 5: the DVR. The next stage, you know how all those

797
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: numbers and they were saying that those numbers were.

798
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: Even gonna be higher, and they said something.

799
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 5: Like she captured like a huge percentage of people that

800
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: was fifty and under.

801
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, it just talks.

802
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: That's another example of just how small the circles that

803
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: I live in are, because I don't know anyone's watching

804
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: that show, but It's probably the highest right to comedy

805
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: on TV right now.

806
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: It is number one.

807
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: All my people watch Atlanta and Shit, and I bet

808
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: you it's not even fucking with Roseanne ratings.

809
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: That's wild. I have a theory about this show anyway.

810
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: My guess after the ratings come out for the double

811
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: for Mere was the ratings will eventually dwindle down, not

812
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: saying it won'ts to have a following, but it won't

813
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: be this big. They've already decided to decline after the

814
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: second week, started to decline after the second week. He's

815
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: the writers begging people to give a show a chance. Nope,

816
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: fuck Roseanne. Yeah, I don't know. I heard the ratings

817
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: are strong going into the second week, but maybe I'm wrong.

818
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what I read anyway, That's what

819
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: I read.

820
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: Through, So I don't know, And it would probably be

821
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: they would probably have to fall off quite a way,

822
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: you know. And if people are just watching out a

823
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: spike and the show's not funny, then I understand. But

824
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: if Randolph and Andy were correct, I mean, you got

825
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: norm writing for that ship, you got Wander writing for

826
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: that shit. I mean, the motherfuckers are funny, like they

827
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: gonna find a way to make that form of Roseanne acceptable,

828
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: and it's funny we do. We can't separate people from

829
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: the art as much anymore because of social media with

830
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: some folks, like to a certain extent, like some people,

831
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: social media is so overpowering you can't even ignore them

832
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: if you want it to really dark. Knight says, I

833
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: rock with the three g O podcast. He's cast introduced

834
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Speaker 2: me to the world's best documentary American pimp, so cautable,

835
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: so good. I'm out here trying to get me a nice,

836
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: pretty young bench and on the on the topic of Roseanne,

837
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: I ain't got shit to.

838
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: Say, but fuck her. The poe was when Roseanne retired

839
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: because of Twitter, because you know, you couldn't hire because

840
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: y'all were too mean to her on social media.

841
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: Yes, she can't take it. Seven percent ninety three percent

842
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: say no, she just talking shit.

843
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Shoebase says, Roseanne is a shit talking and attention seeker.

844
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: She don't know how to keep quiet.

845
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: Lakita says, I was initially excited to hear Roseanne was

846
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: coming back because this was my ish growing up. It

847
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: was super relatable and probably the first time I heard

848
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: the phrase the check is in the mail, Lol. But

849
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: hearing all the recent bs about her hateful tweets and

850
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 2: bullshit conspiracy theories, like she tunes in to Alex Jones

851
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: all day, I found myself loosely quoting Caring when she

852
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: unforgettably said in one of your movie reviews about Batman

853
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: versus Superman, fuck that movie and this mama.

854
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: I was upset.

855
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 2: So in the words of the queen, fuck Rosene show

856
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: and this mama, I feel for those affiliated with that foolishness. Man,

857
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: as long as the check is in the mail, they'll

858
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: be all right. Eve says Roseanne ain't going nowhere because

859
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: she said that back in December and she's still here.

860
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: She just likes the wine with the rest of her

861
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: maga brother. Yeah, that would be like.

862
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: I'm the real victim with my millionaire ass. You think

863
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: that all these like fly of state ass like I

864
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: hate limousine, liberal California, you know that shit. You think

865
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: they would be offended at Roseanne's depiction of them while

866
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 2: she gets rich.

867
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: To the millions. But no, no, anything that's on their side.

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Speaker 2: They fucks with Period correct Episode sixteen fifty three, Popping

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Speaker 2: pH Done says, I hope Gregory is in his car

871
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Speaker 2: with Nigga. Why did Jadas let nigg and Nigga live. Well,

872
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: you can't have Jadas killed Nigga.

873
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: I mean we know that.

874
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 2: And then, uh yeah, I didn't think about that. Maybe

875
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: Gregory's one in the car instead of Foller. M But

876
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: what would Gregory's one of the way Gregory impact of Gregory

877
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: coming back would be on the would have on the plot.

878
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: Nighan barely seen the light Gregory in the first place.

879
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: Correct.

880
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: I think Paulicy's in that car, y'all. But if it's Gregory,

881
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: I guess so, I mean, I don't know even he says,

882
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to add the brother who spit on JADUs

883
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 2: to my list of people who need to die by.

884
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: The end of the season. I won't even remember his face,

885
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: but I hear you that was just gross.

886
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: So right now, my list so far as Knee and

887
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 2: sim and terror, Edith, Rosita, Eugene Dwhite, everyone on Elcher side.

888
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: And now that's fitting, dude. All those people can go

889
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: and Jesus can go to We need some real shooters

890
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: on this squad.

891
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: I agree, Jesus don't want no smoke. Will Rosita and

892
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: Darryl try to kill Eugene to just kidnap.

893
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: Him, I say, kill them.

894
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: Kidnap thirty one percent, talk him out of helping the

895
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: Saviors thirty five percent, kill thirty five percent. I hope

896
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: they kill him, but I feel like it's gonna be

897
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: number two. Talk them out hiself with helping.

898
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: The Saviors, right and here for grind and die the

899
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 5: hands of somebody else.

900
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna be some bullshit. Come on, all right,

901
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: we had one voicemail and play that.

902
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: Hey, Rod and Karen, it's I'll stand and calling from Brooklyn.

903
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: Been working my way backwards with all of the episodes

904
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: because I was on a cruise from the nineteenth to

905
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: the twenty fifth, So anyway, I wasn't able to get

906
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: wind of this whole killer mic mess as usual. This

907
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: dude is just a I don't even know what to say,

908
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: and the fact that people don't remember his antics in

909
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 4: regard to Marissa and how she dragged him about it

910
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: is just even crazier to me. But anyway, I just

911
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: wanted to touch base with you guys and say thanks,

912
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: and I can't wait to get to the backlog of

913
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 4: my episodes to enjoy y'all. So anyway, take care bye, oh.

914
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: I thank you, glad you Enjooria Cruz.

915
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, glad you Enjoyedia Cruz and thank you for listening.

916
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling in. It's always number seven or four, five, five,

917
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: seven zero when they six. We appreciate everybody that takes

918
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: time out to do.

919
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: That two minutes or less. So we didn't set the limits.

920
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: Skyke would be like Bobby.

921
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: Itch where like when you like start call like you got.

922
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, Marissa definitely called him out on Twitter, but

923
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of a reach that is

924
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: considering who Killer Mike is and the platforms that he's on.

925
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: And that's one of the scary things about all of

926
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: that shit, Like so many people that were activists and so.

927
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: Many people that like really.

928
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: Confronted Bernie Sanders and stuff, and with so much like

929
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: support behind him by willfully ignorant people, by people that

930
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: just fled straight up lying and Russia. It's like they

931
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: drowned out the truth.

932
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: You know.

933
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: It's funny to see now people picking up on some

934
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: of his comments from I think twenty fifteen, where he

935
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: talked about most drug dealer that black people get arrested

936
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: for selling drugs because black people sell drugs more often.

937
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: And you know, it's just funny watching it come back,

938
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: because it's just like.

939
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: It's anyway, it's frustrating.

940
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: A lot of people have a lot of different opinions

941
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: when it comes to politics and who they was gonna

942
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 2: vote for and all this shit.

943
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: But I just felt like a lot of people.

944
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: Gave him like a pass, They gave him a level

945
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 2: of perity he couldn't even pass. And Killer Mike was

946
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: instrumental in going over there to be the black friend

947
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: of him.

948
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: But in the end of the day, I don't think

949
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: Killer Mike has enough pull. Obviously, Bernie Sanders still got

950
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: his ass kicked by Hillary Clinton in all the measurable

951
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: ways that ass kicking happens in voting. So it's not

952
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: like he was actually a real candidate.

953
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: It's just people hate Hillary Clinton enough to try to

954
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: act like he was, but he never had a chance

955
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 2: and Trump would have whooped.

956
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: His ass even worse. So it just is what it is,

957
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: you know.

958
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: But but yeah, killing Mike dep I was.

959
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: I still remember that day to I still remember that day.

960
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: Marissa, like, let the gun spray on him on Twitter,

961
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: and that shit was funny. But yeah, ultimately he just

962
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: ignores people and just pretends it didn't happen. So not

963
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: surprised he got used by the NRA, and not surprised

964
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: that he ran.

965
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: Over there to get used. And he'll be back and

966
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: he'll be fine, just fine. We had a few emails.

967
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: Gena writes, and Hello Queen, Karen and Rico. I meant

968
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: to write this a while ago. It just didn't have

969
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: the right words. I've been listening to a wonderful podcast

970
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: now and have recommended it to my friends.

971
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: Thank you.

972
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: A few episodes ago you listed signs of an emotionally

973
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: abusive relationship. I listened as always, and then realized I

974
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: was finishing some of those signs myself, because I, apparently

975
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: and unfortunately, am on the receiving end of such treatment.

976
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: It took a lot to amend it to myself and

977
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 2: a therapist who agree, by the way, that I'm being

978
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: emotionally abused. I didn't have words afore, but I do now.

979
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: Thank you.

980
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: Thank you for being a bright spot and what has

981
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: been a rather dark time, and thank you for helping

982
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: me see that I've been enduring what I've been enduring.

983
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: Thank you for hopefully helping someone else see that all

984
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: the abuse isn't physical and that doesn't make it okay,

985
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: deserved or hurt any less.

986
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Right, Just thank y'all.

987
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: So I enjoy your insights and your thoughtful, hilarious commentary

988
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: and Karen's ten for ten playing game. Sincerely, Gina Lawyer,

989
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 2: listener and subscriber to Black Mama Monthly.

990
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, yeah, thank you.

991
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

992
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: Sometimes like I'll be looking up news articles or something

993
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: and then I'll just see something like that and I'll

994
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: be like, you know, let's just talk about this instead,

995
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: because everyone talks about the news all the time, and

996
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean, and our show can kind of be whatever

997
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: you want it to be. So you know, i'll read

998
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: something it will resonate with me, or I'll be like,

999
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: maybe this can I can spread some information to some

1000
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: people they'll listening to show and be like yo, that

1001
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: So those are the signs or either they maybe they

1002
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: dealt with it, maybe they've never dealt with it, or

1003
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: maybe you're in it like you said, and you're like, yo,

1004
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: oh wait a minute, this sounded real familiar.

1005
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: So I'm happy to help.

1006
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: And I believe this is pronounced Keana, who says saving

1007
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: your energy. This episode was everything. This conversation about saving

1008
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: your energy and preserving your peace was everything. I grew

1009
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: up in a family of strong and opinionated women and

1010
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: basically learn how to be a people pleaser and bought

1011
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: it for the love of my family. It was taking

1012
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: a toll on my mental health, and I was having

1013
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: panic attacks and gaining weight like crazy and depressed and

1014
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 2: borderline suicidal because I wasn't happy. When I turned twenty three,

1015
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: I decided I wasn't going to keep doing this to myself,

1016
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: and I decided to really work for where this fear

1017
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: was coming from so I could uproot it. Even if

1018
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't coming from me. It was a fear of

1019
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: abandonment and rejection that was crippling me.

1020
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: I had to have a real.

1021
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 2: Come to Jesus talk with myself and learn to wean

1022
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 2: myself from some folks and how to cut others off

1023
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: all together.

1024
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: My mantra has to come.

1025
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: I don't have to create and maintain the space for

1026
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: anyone to abuse me. It's by no means always been easy,

1027
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: because as a people pleasing you learn to justify and

1028
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: reason away and turn the blind eye to abuse and foolishness.

1029
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: But I've learned so much about myself that I will

1030
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: and what I will and will not accept in my personal.

1031
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: Relationship I've had.

1032
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 2: I've had to reconcile myself knowing I may never get

1033
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: an apology and love folks from the other side of

1034
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: the city. Come on, and I'm good with that AnyWho.

1035
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: Conversations like this one of the many reasons I love y'all.

1036
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: Still trying to figure out how to adopt myself in

1037
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: the y'all's family as a little cousin. As soon as

1038
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: I figured out, it's all love you too, for real,

1039
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: for real, thank you, thank you, and yep, I know

1040
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: that I know that feeling.

1041
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 5: Man, I one hundred percent agree because, like I said,

1042
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 5: I come from the foundation of people pleasing sorority, like

1043
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 5: I am a part of that sorority and fraternity, you know,

1044
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 5: because men can be like this too, but it is

1045
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 5: it's executed differentely in men. So I know because there's

1046
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 5: a lot of people out there that are people pleaser

1047
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 5: and they don't realize that they are people pleasers.

1048
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: And a lot of times.

1049
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 5: People that are used can spot you out really really easily.

1050
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 5: And it's easy for them to take advantage of you

1051
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 5: because those type of people, they will actually sit listen

1052
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 5: to you, find out your quotes, find out how you tick,

1053
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 5: and then they will use all those things that gets

1054
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 5: you to manipulate you to you so that you can,

1055
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 5: at the end of the day get done whatever they

1056
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 5: want done, not.

1057
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: Really caring nor concern about you and how you feel.

1058
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 5: And you know, if you're okay with this or if

1059
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 5: this is something that you want to do. Some people

1060
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 5: do it unconsciously, some people purposely do it. It doesn't matter.

1061
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 5: The end result to you is the same. So because

1062
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 5: the end result to you it's the same, you're affected

1063
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: by it.

1064
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 3: You have to make a decision.

1065
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 5: And what I realize is that once I got to

1066
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 5: the point that I made a decision, that this is

1067
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 5: something that I wasn't gonna deal with because I have

1068
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 5: to wake up every day and I have to live with.

1069
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: The decisions that I made.

1070
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 5: I have to live with what I am going to do,

1071
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 5: what I'm not going to do, what I'm going to

1072
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 5: put up with, what I'm not going to put up with.

1073
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 5: I am the one that determine my happiness, not somebody else,

1074
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: you know, and that's very hard for a people pleasing

1075
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 5: person to deal with.

1076
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: And once you start doing the shit that you want to.

1077
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 5: Do, it's gonna be a problem because a lot of

1078
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 5: people are so used to you doing the things that

1079
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 5: they want to do that you start dealing with people

1080
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 5: that become jealous of you because people don't want to

1081
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 5: see you grow, you know, because sometimes people can see

1082
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: a light in a talent within you that you don't

1083
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 5: even see within yourself. And so a lot of times,

1084
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 5: once you stop you know, I'm not gonna please you

1085
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 5: no more. I'm gonna do the things that I want

1086
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 5: to do, it becomes a problem. And what I realize too,

1087
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 5: is that once you step out of there and be like,

1088
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do what I want to do, you have

1089
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 5: to let people go because everybody isn't willing to go

1090
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 5: to the next level with you.

1091
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 3: And this includes family members.

1092
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 5: It could be your mom and your daddy, your sister,

1093
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 5: your brother, your husband, whoever this person is, sometimes they

1094
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 5: are not willing to go there with you. Sometimes you

1095
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 5: can maintain a relationship with them and grow, and sometimes

1096
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 5: you can't.

1097
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: And if you can't, let it go.

1098
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the things I was saying

1099
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: on Twitter. Somebody hit me up and was like, when

1100
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: we talk when I said that, I'm wared of people

1101
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: that can't keep friends, and I am I still, I

1102
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: am I always really And she was like, well, sometimes

1103
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: you have to cut people off they can't come with

1104
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 2: and I said, whoa, I'm not talking about you got

1105
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: to keep friends with everybody.

1106
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: That's weird.

1107
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: I mean, like everything has a season, right, like people

1108
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: fall in and out.

1109
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: Of life all this shit.

1110
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: But there's also like people that continually just always got

1111
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 2: a new crop of friends. It's almost like how you know,

1112
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: it's like they searching for the mark, you know what

1113
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: I mean? Like you you consistently just everybody, you just

1114
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: everybody your best friend that you just met, because you can't.

1115
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: You don't have nobody that goes back. And I feel

1116
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: like that is a sign. If you can't keep any

1117
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: of your friends, look around, man, maybe it's you. You know,

1118
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: like that's weird to not be able to keep people

1119
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: in your circle for long, you know. So, But but

1120
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: absolutely everybody can't come with you everywhere, you know, and

1121
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that. You shouldn't feel guilt about that.

1122
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 2: And some folks are users, Some people like, like Karen said,

1123
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: they get jealous. There's people that are cool with you

1124
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: at one point in life, but when you start making

1125
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: changes or doing anything different, they all of a sudden

1126
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: they find themselves not as cool with the idea of

1127
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: you as blank. You know, so I you know, I

1128
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: one of the last conversations I had with when I

1129
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: still had white friends, actually probably the last conversation, but

1130
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 2: one of the dudes tried to say some shit about

1131
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 2: the podcast, like oh, your little podcast, da da da,

1132
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, you've seen quite upset about me

1133
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: out of the lane that you thought I should be in. Look,

1134
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: I give my opinion for a living, but we worked

1135
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: hard to do this shit. Come on, and at no

1136
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: point am I gonna feel ashamed or embarrassed or what

1137
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: I do for a living. This this is the dream

1138
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: I wanted. This is a dream that we wanted. This

1139
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: is the thing we set out to do. You know,

1140
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: since that time, you know, this podcast has taken me

1141
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: more places than I'm sure it's taken than whatever he

1142
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: does is taking him, you know, you know, but he

1143
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 2: you know, I know that person was miserable at work.

1144
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: I know that like some marriage shit going on or whatever,

1145
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: like I you know, I know they had a bunch

1146
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: of issues, but those aren't my fault, you know what

1147
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: I mean.

1148
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 1: Like it was just he was uncomfortable with me being

1149
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: out of the box.

1150
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: He thought I belong then, right, and so I understand

1151
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: that impetus. And that's why, you know, when we talked

1152
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 2: about it, it's like you can't wait for closure on everything,

1153
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: Like if I was waiting for that dude to come

1154
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: back in a minute he was wrong for that shit,

1155
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: I still be I die waiting, you know, like like

1156
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't do that, you know, And I'm

1157
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: not even sure he didn't apologize at some point. He

1158
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: probably did, but you know what, it was too like

1159
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: I didn't give a fuck. We don't like we're cool.

1160
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: We don't talk anymore.

1161
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: We you know, I haven't seen that dude one time

1162
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: since then, and that's absolutely fine. But that's the kind

1163
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: of point of Look, man, I'm not here to be abused.

1164
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm not here to be looked down upon or patronized

1165
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: or whatever. Like if we can't meet and respect each

1166
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: other as equals, let's move on. You know, family, friend,

1167
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: whatever the relations coworker, whatever relationship is none of these

1168
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: motherfuckers are pertinent to my existence. If you don't want

1169
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: to hop in and help improve my life and we

1170
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: mutually like support each other, we have like kind feelings

1171
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: towards each other, then what is the purpose of our relationship?

1172
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: So I just don't stress about that shit. But I

1173
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: absolutely understand where you're coming from, and I'm glad you are.

1174
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad you resonated with what we was

1175
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: talking about.

1176
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 5: Because at the end of the day, in my opinion,

1177
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 5: I just want people to be and it's very hard

1178
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 5: but to be free of the expectation that other people

1179
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 5: put on their lives, because you only have one life

1180
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 5: to live and nobody can make that choice but you.

1181
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 5: And a lot of times to kind of peegyback on

1182
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 5: some of the stuff you was saying. Sometimes people like

1183
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 5: you in a certain place because they feel superior to you,

1184
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 5: and a lot of people don't realize that people feel

1185
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 5: that way about them until you start doing other shit,

1186
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 5: like right I said, bringing outside of the box, making

1187
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 5: them feel uncomfortable, making them challenge themselves, and then the

1188
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 5: things and the ways they really felt about you will shine.

1189
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 5: So I've learned to love people differently and like you

1190
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 5: said love from across town.

1191
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

1192
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: We got a couple more emails, Teresa Wright saying they're

1193
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: writing Karen. First, let me say I love your podcast.

1194
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: This episode where you guys talked about letting things go

1195
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: closer and things about man. A lot of people like that,

1196
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: so things along that line touched me to my core.

1197
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: I've always thought I needed closure in relationships, but have

1198
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: come to realize as a non factor, I can't control

1199
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: how someone someone feels about me.

1200
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: Yo. Another reason I'm scared of that like closure shit.

1201
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: A lot of times the things that people people that

1202
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: dangle that closure shit out there for you, they also

1203
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: use it as a way back in correct, you know,

1204
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: like oh I'm back and I you know, I just

1205
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: I was so wrong like nigg at the time to

1206
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: say that was a long time ago bye, and thinking

1207
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: about it drains my energy makes me sad and I'm

1208
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: done feeling that way. Thank you by listening to this

1209
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: particular podcast confirm what I was doing is what I

1210
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: need to do and me putting myself firstus Okay, you

1211
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: guys give me hope. I can feel the love between

1212
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: you guys, and I love how Rod shows his love

1213
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: for you.

1214
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: Care as a woman.

1215
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: It lets me know there are good men out there

1216
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: who knows how to treat a lady.

1217
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: But you know, I try to you know, I try

1218
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: to do what I could do.

1219
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: You know.

1220
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: You know it's I mean, I can't say it's a

1221
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: lot of men out hear that could do it like

1222
00:57:59,480 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm doing it.

1223
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: But you know, it's good to see people try. You

1224
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I like to give hope to

1225
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: the hopeless.

1226
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 3: You know, high expectations. You know, you know I ain't

1227
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: even gonna lot of expectations. It, you know, is pretty high.

1228
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 5: And like I said, I ain't gonna lie. I am

1229
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 5: spoiled righting, and I have certain expectations.

1230
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: Well I try. Okay, stay blessed and continue to good work.

1231
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 1: You are doing, terry, So thank you, thank you.

1232
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: I just think the bars that load for men come

1233
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: on like just for the most part.

1234
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: And it's the bars loaded, the bars like did you

1235
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: beat them right?

1236
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: Nope, that's a good man, you like, just a little

1237
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 3: bit motive ship than that.

1238
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's it for this week. Man, Thank you

1239
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: everybody that I wrote in, everybody emailed in. Appreciate y'all,

1240
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: and uh yeah it was a quick feedback show.

1241
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: But y'all get out there and tackle the day, all right, guys.

1242
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: We should be back with more guests this week and

1243
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: we'll let you, guys know who and when and what

1244
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: and why. Okay, so we should see you tomorrow for

1245
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: another episode.

1246
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: So until then, I love you.

1247
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: I love you too.

1248
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: Why