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Speaker 3: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
Speaker 3: I'm your host, Cony Witt, and today we have very
Speaker 3: special guest streamer and content creator Zoe Spencer is in
Speaker 3: the building.
Speaker 1: Wo.
Speaker 3: I was so happy to get the confirmation that you
Speaker 3: were gonna be on the show.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm excited to be here Eating while.
Speaker 3: Broke, Eating while Broke, and we're gonna have you in
Speaker 3: the kitchen cooking. I don't know how often people call
Speaker 3: you on shows and have you cook a throwback.
Speaker 1: They don't even allow me to cook on stream for real.
Speaker 1: I get I'm not a great cooker.
Speaker 3: Were you gonna show them today how it was done?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this smell though? I got this?
Speaker 3: You got this? What are you gonna have me eating today?
Speaker 1: Okay? So I'm gonna have you eating pork and beans
Speaker 1: with hot dogs. You gotta cut the hot dogs up,
Speaker 1: put it into the pork and beans. You got to
Speaker 1: add some butter in near, some pepper in he or
Speaker 1: some sugar. Mix it all, you've got to have a
Speaker 1: side of rice, or you don't have to have a
Speaker 1: side of rice.
Speaker 3: Do you decide to rice to balance like the sautiness
Speaker 3: of it?
Speaker 1: I feel like you do.
Speaker 3: I honestly, I want to have it with rice. I've
Speaker 3: never had it with.
Speaker 1: Rice, or you could put it with bread. I like
Speaker 1: the rice idea.
Speaker 3: I like, all right, So get to cook in just
Speaker 3: like that, Just just like that, you start. Okay, we
Speaker 3: try to give you about ten minutes to cook because
Speaker 3: I'm hungry.
Speaker 1: You got this. I kind of struggle in the kitchen.
Speaker 3: However, so that burner, that burner is to the right, yep,
Speaker 3: and then the next the one right up above.
Speaker 1: I should have given her this in the You got it? Alright?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're gonna do? So what are you doing?
Speaker 1: First?
Speaker 3: The hot dogs? You dump the can?
Speaker 1: How to make I should start off with the hot dogs?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't really, don't trust me. I've seen
Speaker 3: people make this on the show at least four times.
Speaker 3: Really well, this smell I know this meal country Wayne.
Speaker 3: He did, but he complained because he's a vegan now
Speaker 3: and so.
Speaker 1: He very hard. He's so vegan. I literally hate it.
Speaker 1: Do you know he had me eating, he had his
Speaker 1: cook making a cheeseburger, but the burger was obviously vegan,
Speaker 1: but the cheese was vegan. Could you taste the difference
Speaker 1: in the cheese?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 3: The only thing I will say that annoys me about
Speaker 3: him is the only thing is that he won't let you.
Speaker 3: He had us by brand new pots because he said
Speaker 3: that meat was cooked in it, and I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: but I give him grace because he shot it with
Speaker 3: us in antline was a trooper and then he had
Speaker 3: to reshoot because we lost the files. You so, so
Speaker 3: technically he could serve me. He could he he had
Speaker 3: every right to make me work extra hard on those pots.
Speaker 3: He was like, you kind of know you know that
Speaker 3: I I can't have animal products cooked in the same
Speaker 3: And I was just like, all right, it's only because
Speaker 3: he fell care.
Speaker 1: You want to know. That's a sad thing right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But but I give grace because it was two episodes.
Speaker 1: It was it was a two episode what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: shout out to him.
Speaker 3: But anyways, we've had quite quite a few, quite quite
Speaker 3: a few. But we're gonna see if your dish can
Speaker 3: trump theirs.
Speaker 1: Oh it can because I know, I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: And when this start gonna making noise, like when it's gonna.
Speaker 3: Start, do you have it up high?
Speaker 1: Okay? Good? Yeah, you may need Maybe I wanted to
Speaker 1: add something in there because if you really look like
Speaker 1: you don't cook, don't do that. Look you really know
Speaker 1: why I'm cutting the butty kind of crazy, but I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make noise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's electric. Be careful because it will eventually. I
Speaker 3: don't I don't know if it's gonna make it. You
Speaker 3: got to turn that fire up. It will it will, yeah,
Speaker 3: it will. Sorry, Oh, we can make a whole bloop
Speaker 3: of real with you cooking. I can see this going
Speaker 3: very far.
Speaker 1: I'm really matter of fact. You know how to make
Speaker 1: hot dogs? They usually boil them. No, you know how
Speaker 1: to make hot dogs.
Speaker 3: They put a bunch of random stuff in a tube
Speaker 3: and then you eat it, and then they say on
Speaker 3: the disclaimer and we think it's pork, chicken, beef, a
Speaker 3: bunch of blended stuff. What was the last time you
Speaker 3: ate this dish?
Speaker 1: That's a good sign. It had to be a while ago.
Speaker 3: That's a good sign. So take me back to what
Speaker 3: was going on during this pork and beans era.
Speaker 1: Okay, during the pork and beans ever, I had to
Speaker 1: be a little girl. I mean.
Speaker 3: That's the system. Yes, Now I'm cooking, so in your
Speaker 3: face you were so happy, right, Oh.
Speaker 1: I'm so. I'm adding more because I love how it sounds.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna add more. But during this ever, I was
Speaker 1: definitely a little girl at home with mommy and daddy.
Speaker 1: And this is very easy to make by yourself, obviously,
Speaker 1: But listen, I grew up with my parents they making everything.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't want to cook.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, did they teach you how to
Speaker 3: make this dish? Was this the one dish they taught
Speaker 3: you that you could cook? It doesn't sound like it
Speaker 3: sounds like you were definitely getting your meals cooked.
Speaker 1: I was definitely getting my meals kicked. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so easy. I don't really need them to teach me
Speaker 1: because you have. You stand there in the kitchen, you
Speaker 1: be like, oh, sho, was she putting the hot dogs
Speaker 1: in the pan? I need to know how to put
Speaker 1: the hot dogs in the pan?
Speaker 3: So, as a kid, was this your favorite dish or something?
Speaker 3: Is this why you picked this?
Speaker 1: Well? This is one of my favorites. I have another
Speaker 1: favorite as well, but this is one of my favorites
Speaker 1: because it's it's just so savory and just so good.
Speaker 1: Like the pork and beans. Juice is the best. I
Speaker 1: just like the soupy. It's so good. You know what
Speaker 1: you go also do? If you hook it up, you
Speaker 1: could do like an actual hot dog, Like you could
Speaker 1: add two meals together. You could do hot dog with
Speaker 1: the ketchup and the mustard and then put this, make
Speaker 1: the beans, and then you dip the hot dog in
Speaker 1: the beans. Oh my god. Or you take the hot dog,
Speaker 1: you put the beans, take the beans, put the beans
Speaker 1: on top of the hot dog. Oh my god. I
Speaker 1: should have told you about the bread.
Speaker 3: Someone asked me to and I said, no, she has rice.
Speaker 3: But you know what, it sounds like you get real
Speaker 3: creative with this dish, like you have home with it. Okay,
Speaker 3: So take me back to your household growing up, two
Speaker 3: parent household. It sounds like, yes, two parents, parents, parents
Speaker 3: stole together. Yes that's great.
Speaker 1: I know people are always so like shocked, like your
Speaker 1: parents are still together. I'm like, yeah, that means you
Speaker 1: believe in love and all that. Now, absolutely, Actually I
Speaker 1: love a girl.
Speaker 3: I always believe in love, okay, with with the without,
Speaker 3: so you don't hate if you're single, you don't be
Speaker 3: like believing, n did it? You walk past couples like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Totally had one boyfriend my whole life. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: twenty five by the way. Okay, yeah you're a baby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like.
Speaker 3: Are you still with him?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Well see the parents influence hasn't hasn't The
Speaker 3: real world hasn'tained you because of your.
Speaker 1: Parents' influence probably exactly.
Speaker 3: Okay, two parent household, middle class, upper class rich.
Speaker 1: What's the middle? The middle? Middle? What's the middle?
Speaker 3: Middle is?
Speaker 1: Wow? This take me back to school.
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you guys about middle class. Middle classes.
Speaker 3: You pay for everything and you don't get any Hell
Speaker 3: that's like there's no government assistance. There's no free medical
Speaker 3: or anything.
Speaker 1: Oh middle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so then you're middle. That means they paid the most. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: that's how it is, right because the rich can afford it,
Speaker 3: and then the poor get help.
Speaker 1: But the middle what the middle do?
Speaker 3: The middle don't get nothing. They just stay working hard,
Speaker 3: like both your parents had to work. Yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 3: working hard.
Speaker 1: They've been working all their lives I have a very
Speaker 1: working household. So like, you know, as soon as it
Speaker 1: was time for me to be able to get a job,
Speaker 1: like no hesitation. Like even my little sister now she's eight,
Speaker 1: have a little sisters who are eighteen.
Speaker 3: I thought you want to say she's eight.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, already, she's eighteen. She don't play
Speaker 1: no games. She already got two jobs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you come from that that see. But that's
Speaker 3: the thing about that middle class, So they you work
Speaker 3: hard because you know there's gonna be nothing given too.
Speaker 1: You're kind of used to that, right exactly.
Speaker 3: But I like that you come from this hard work ethic.
Speaker 3: What's one of your first jobs you had out the gate.
Speaker 1: Well, I only had three, nine to five's my whole life,
Speaker 1: So I'll just tell you all of them. The first
Speaker 1: one was I was working in the supermarket at sixteen.
Speaker 1: This was just a summer job for real. Once I
Speaker 1: got back to school in high school, I stopped working.
Speaker 1: And then after that I worked at Burlington. So this
Speaker 1: was my college job. So I started there when I
Speaker 1: was eighteen and I worked there for four years of college.
Speaker 1: So through COVID and everything. Oh, it was so crazy
Speaker 1: at that store during COVID. During COVID German COVID too,
Speaker 1: I was working there.
Speaker 3: I felt like everything was shut down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was shut down. But when they opened back up, Oh,
Speaker 1: we were right in there.
Speaker 3: Okay. When during COVID did you actually work or were
Speaker 3: you able to get unemployment?
Speaker 1: I was definitely unemployment. But then when the summer came
Speaker 1: and the world opened back up, everybody come to work
Speaker 1: and I was in there room, my mask on the
Speaker 1: line is out the door. Why is the line out
Speaker 1: the door? Because we've been Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people got used to living in pj's all day,
Speaker 3: not wearing makeup. You know what I'm saying. I got
Speaker 3: used to not wearing makeup for so long and cold
Speaker 3: because LA was shut down for like two years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so now I don't apparely wear makeup. It felt like
Speaker 3: two years. It was like a year and a half.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, two years, about two years. Okay, your hot
Speaker 3: dogs look nice and burnt and crispy, and they're not ready.
Speaker 1: They're too light, see they too light skin.
Speaker 3: Okay, they look like they getting close to charcoal.
Speaker 1: But hey, you're being a chef. Okay.
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, you got to make sure you
Speaker 3: make an extra one for my daughter.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Look we got three and we got three okay, all right?
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot to tell you the last job after
Speaker 1: I graduated college May two, I started breaking at the bank.
Speaker 1: So then I had kept my Burlington job and the
Speaker 1: bank jobs. I was working two jobs after college. Are
Speaker 1: you serious? Okay? Now, what were your aspirations in college?
Speaker 1: My aspirations was to always be an actress. I went
Speaker 1: to school for communication, Arts and performance studies, so I
Speaker 1: was doing like a lot of like acting in there.
Speaker 1: Nothing else really interests me. Like there was a time
Speaker 1: where I was thinking about dentists because I really like teeth.
Speaker 1: You have nice teeth, by the way, thank you. And
Speaker 1: then after that it was more like I just really
Speaker 1: love movies and TV and all of that film Like,
Speaker 1: I just love anything that got to do with entertainment.
Speaker 1: So I just so before.
Speaker 3: You went to college, I know, I was reading in
Speaker 3: some of your notes that like in high school you
Speaker 3: got voted like class clown, right or were you were
Speaker 3: you voted class clown in high school?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then did that have a pivotal like place in
Speaker 3: like the trajectory of your life being voted that?
Speaker 1: Not? Really, just because like even before getting that. I've
Speaker 1: just always just been this way since birth. And what's
Speaker 1: this way? Like outgoing? Just very outgoing and like very
Speaker 1: playful and loud and like I could step into a
Speaker 1: room and just own it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, own it, own it, own it. Okay, So
Speaker 3: you saw that very early on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people did. I used to be
Speaker 1: in the windows like this. Do you want to turn
Speaker 1: off that burner?
Speaker 3: She just moved it off. She said, forget turning it off. No, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're right, that's the right one.
Speaker 1: See why they don't allow me in the kitchen.
Speaker 3: Look those little burnt hot dogs.
Speaker 1: Don't do that crispy look at them?
Speaker 3: Then burnt crispies is the camera, and do it under
Speaker 3: the camera so it can see.
Speaker 1: These looks so pretty. You can't have them be life skinned.
Speaker 3: Look I like the little crispy shells. Matter of fact,
Speaker 3: does krispy shell in the soft inside?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Now, she's gonna move on to the beans.
Speaker 1: Yes I am, and I'm gonna just do the beans
Speaker 1: right here, although this one is already high ready for me. Huh.
Speaker 3: Okay, So take me to the decisions where you decide
Speaker 3: you're going to get a second job. Why did you
Speaker 3: have to get a second job. You're not You're obviously
Speaker 3: not living at home at this point.
Speaker 1: Okay, it wasn't. No, I am at home. Okay, can
Speaker 1: I tell you at home as we sit right here
Speaker 1: next to you.
Speaker 3: I still live in Brooklyn, but with your parents.
Speaker 1: Yes, really, yes, I don't my game, I would, that's funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your parents don't try to push you out at
Speaker 3: eighteen or nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm not from like like any projects anything. I've olays
Speaker 1: lived in the house, so it's like I have the
Speaker 1: space and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, so no, my mama ain't
Speaker 1: trying to kick me out. She loves you too much.
Speaker 1: It's like, I guess they like I have older parents.
Speaker 1: They like I have older parents there. They in their
Speaker 1: fifty sixties now, so it's like they already know how
Speaker 1: life is outside. They've been through everything. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you leave when you're like absolutely ready. So
Speaker 1: they just be like on that kind of time, and
Speaker 1: you know, like you don't ever just have to like leave,
Speaker 1: like leave when you want to leave, you know, but
Speaker 1: it's time because I'm not gonna lie. I'm like grown
Speaker 1: out of the room. I close and your space and.
Speaker 3: My body, your body she's limp thick.
Speaker 1: Anybody, all the listeners tell them that I'm slim thick.
Speaker 1: She slim thick.
Speaker 3: Thank you slim, but she got the cakes. Am I
Speaker 3: supposed to say that inappropriately?
Speaker 1: No, that's I want to thank you because.
Speaker 3: They be thinking I'm just no. No, she's slim thick, period.
Speaker 3: All right, love that you. Yeah, you can use the water.
Speaker 3: That's your water.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: So tell me, So you're at home at what point?
Speaker 3: So you're you're you're making all this money. What is
Speaker 3: motivating you to work two jobs?
Speaker 1: So I wasn't making anything yet? This is like after college.
Speaker 1: So after college, since I was still working at Burlington,
Speaker 1: I didn't I'm not okay, I'm yeah.
Speaker 3: Put the pop back on it so you don't touch it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Mama not playing over here, y'all.
Speaker 3: We don't want her to. She talk with her hands
Speaker 3: and she gets the yeah.
Speaker 1: So boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 3: But it's gonna sit. It's gonna sizzle.
Speaker 1: I know you want to hear the sizzle.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you're working these two jobs. After college, you
Speaker 3: graduate with a degree in the arts.
Speaker 1: Yes, the degree. My bachelor's are arts. I got that
Speaker 1: degree and I have. I also ran track. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm slim there. That's where I get this from.
Speaker 3: So I real, I know that's so random.
Speaker 1: They kind of.
Speaker 3: Like they have the little slit right here, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about in the thighs.
Speaker 1: I know exactly that, but that kind of like leaves
Speaker 1: because that's myself that leaves. It leaves if you're not like, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: I got like big track thighs though.
Speaker 3: They're like, I love that for you, but how we
Speaker 3: get detailed? Okay, you started to talk about the yeah
Speaker 3: and you start to talk about track though.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I'm not a yeah because I'm very competitive,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like not a quitter. So I'm not about
Speaker 1: to just quit the Burdlinton job. They I'm not put
Speaker 1: it into two weeks. I'm like, I'm a juggle both, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever more money for me. And I just have a
Speaker 1: very hard working mindset. Like I don't know my parents,
Speaker 1: that's as I going back to that, like them working
Speaker 1: all their lives and giving us like anything whatever. I've
Speaker 1: always been on every vacation every year, we go around
Speaker 1: everywhere everywhere. I never really like like even if they
Speaker 1: were like middle class and hard workers and not making
Speaker 1: all this crazy money. I lived very comfortably and like
Speaker 1: always on vacations with my family every single year. So
Speaker 1: I have like a lot of memories with my family.
Speaker 3: But but where does that independence to want to work?
Speaker 1: Cause you want for myself, Like I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't like the whole mommy daddy money all the time,
Speaker 1: Like I did that during high school and then that
Speaker 1: first year of college, I'm like, I don't really cause
Speaker 1: that was like I got a boyfriend my first year
Speaker 1: at college, right, so now I'm ubering. Now now I'm
Speaker 1: starting these ubers. It was never uber when I was
Speaker 1: in high school. I was walking to school. So now
Speaker 1: I'm taking ubers. But the money's going quick. Like so
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 3: You didn't want to call your parents obviously because you're
Speaker 3: kind of grown. You're starting to get into that more
Speaker 3: grown state, Like.
Speaker 1: I'm going on, what was that going on? Now? Eighteen?
Speaker 1: Because I was seventeen going into college. So it's like
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep like asking for mommy daddy
Speaker 1: money to go see a boyfriend, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because now it's what they stop giving it to you.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to go see that you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like if you get if you you know,
Speaker 1: get the stuff you need for yourself, you ain't got
Speaker 1: to ask nobody exactly. I just always feel like I
Speaker 1: don't like asking people for nothing, even today, Like if
Speaker 1: I don't have it, I'm gonna figure it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3: But what drives you to get a second job? If
Speaker 3: you're comfortable? But I like it?
Speaker 1: I just I always just like why too well?
Speaker 3: Because because no, Because sometimes I think if someone's comfortable,
Speaker 3: like in your case, but I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't have anything when I came out of college.
Speaker 3: But you were at home, right, So you but to
Speaker 3: push yourself to say, Okay, I have extra little bit
Speaker 3: of time, I'm gonna go and get another job. There's
Speaker 3: some driving factor.
Speaker 1: In Okay, I understand what you're saying. So when after
Speaker 1: after I graduated, I wanted a new job because the
Speaker 1: Burlington job was like I'm going on like a year
Speaker 1: four now, so it's like, I want a new job.
Speaker 1: So I got a bank job and it was more money,
Speaker 1: I was getting paid more, the rate was higher, and
Speaker 1: then I just kept the Burlington job as some side
Speaker 1: joint got it. Yeah, so like, if I couldn't make
Speaker 1: it to work, I would just post my shift and
Speaker 1: people will take it because it's so many people that
Speaker 1: working at Okay, that same job.
Speaker 3: So so you used the Burlington as as like a side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that side pocket money and the bank.
Speaker 3: Did you ever get tempted?
Speaker 1: Actually, never got tempted. I was in there making my
Speaker 1: TikTok videos on my lunch breaks and stuff. It was cool.
Speaker 1: It was just that, like you have to be there
Speaker 1: with like to open up the bank, be two people,
Speaker 1: so like if you late, you got the other person
Speaker 1: waiting on you. And child was they waiting on me
Speaker 1: every single morning? Yeah?
Speaker 3: How long did you last?
Speaker 1: I lasted a year. I got fired a year later.
Speaker 1: They were shutting down my branch. Oh and they was
Speaker 1: everybody was losing their jobs shutting down my branch. So
Speaker 1: that's the only reason I got fired and I got
Speaker 1: I end up getting fired for fan girl. They fired me.
Speaker 1: You want to know why? Why? Because I kept posting
Speaker 1: the shifts, So I didn't never really do nothing. I
Speaker 1: kept posting. I kept posting the shifts and people kept
Speaker 1: taking it. So they're like this not even paying Yeah,
Speaker 1: this girl never here, so we might as well just
Speaker 1: let her go. So they just let me go because
Speaker 1: I was never coming. But I never really did anything
Speaker 1: to get fired.
Speaker 3: Okay, But now just to go back to the banking,
Speaker 3: just because I've never been in banking, Ye, did it
Speaker 3: change your perception on money or how you view people
Speaker 3: that had money versus not? Like, did people that have
Speaker 3: money look a certain way versus people that didn't? Were
Speaker 3: their mannerisms different. I'm just genuinely curious working in a
Speaker 3: bank from knowing.
Speaker 1: Whats in there?
Speaker 3: So for real, yeah, like you mean like people are.
Speaker 1: Here trying to come. I'm like, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: go to that lady over there. I don't know. You
Speaker 1: ain't finna do this under my account.
Speaker 3: Like cashing checks out and stuff.
Speaker 1: Exactly because there was like there was a time, I
Speaker 1: think there was a time where like something was going
Speaker 1: on where it was like a lot of fraud stuff
Speaker 1: that was going on, so people was coming in and
Speaker 1: cashing out or on some scamming stuff.
Speaker 3: It's so funny. That was the last thing I would
Speaker 3: think you would say. But I guess it makes sense
Speaker 3: because you know, sometimes banks give you a hard time.
Speaker 3: You'd be like, why why you even you should trust me.
Speaker 3: But now I see.
Speaker 1: You know what, I actually fully understand now the fdi C.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't understand that before I worked at the bank.
Speaker 1: I understand that. Now. What do you understand about it?
Speaker 1: That if you lose your money, you only getting two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars back. Even if you got
Speaker 1: a millionaire, you only getting they only you only get
Speaker 1: too Do.
Speaker 3: You understand the fdi C. Then I didn't know what
Speaker 3: the FDIC was. I'm guessing it's insurance. Yes, okay, but
Speaker 3: that sucks. But are you on the team of them?
Speaker 3: Are you on the team?
Speaker 1: No? I'm saying, like, that's crazy. I never knew that
Speaker 1: the FDIC's that. But now, like I was, as I'm
Speaker 1: working in the bank, I'm finding out all these different
Speaker 1: kind of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. So if I put a million in
Speaker 3: the bank and someone takes it.
Speaker 1: You only get your only thing insured is two fifty thousand.
Speaker 3: So why would anyone keep their money in banks?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Maybe after this we're gonna go
Speaker 1: take hour shut out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I don't have two hundred and fifty and
Speaker 3: if you came with but if I get over two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty and will it will manifactation and rearifestation
Speaker 3: if I get to it, when I get my two fifty,
Speaker 3: yea one two hundred and fifty one thousand, best believe
Speaker 3: that one thousand making it career? I don't know about you,
Speaker 3: but that's a that's a good that's a good life
Speaker 3: lesson to learn anyways. All right, So at what point
Speaker 3: do you start going on socials and making it a
Speaker 3: career choice?
Speaker 1: Wait? What do you mean by that break down?
Speaker 3: I love how she's I figured you would have done
Speaker 3: this before. I thought we were gonna eat him as holes.
Speaker 3: I have to judge eat him as what holes? Like
Speaker 3: a whole hot dog?
Speaker 1: Uh Uh? You better cut them up trying to choke
Speaker 1: on your food.
Speaker 3: Okay, So at what point do you turn content creation
Speaker 3: into a career choice?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. It shocked me too, as I
Speaker 1: you know, I never really like planted anything. Like everything
Speaker 1: just kind of start falling into place, won't God do it?
Speaker 1: Everything just start falling into place for me? Because during
Speaker 1: my last year of college, my senior year, that's when
Speaker 1: I was on somebody else's platform. So I was on
Speaker 1: a guy named Sean YouTube channel and I kind of
Speaker 1: took over his channel where like he had me as
Speaker 1: his like guest all the time. So it was like
Speaker 1: Zoe does this, though, does that? THO does this? So
Speaker 1: it was like, let's say like twenty videos straight of
Speaker 1: just us on his page. And that's what like really
Speaker 1: got me popular to where I made my own channel
Speaker 1: after college. That's how I got into my own contact.
Speaker 1: I started my YouTube channel after I graduated, and I
Speaker 1: got monetized in one week. It one week in a week.
Speaker 1: It took me. It took me a long time. I know,
Speaker 1: people were telling me, like like the boys that I
Speaker 1: were hanging around and stuff, like the creators they were
Speaker 1: telling me, yo, it took me like two years. Get
Speaker 1: mad at me. I'm like, brother, I don't know what
Speaker 1: y'all want me to do, y'all, but.
Speaker 3: You know what, I don't want to take it away.
Speaker 3: But you said prior you were on that YouTube channel
Speaker 3: for what a year building up? Yeah, so technically it
Speaker 3: took you like with a year, so yeah, but you
Speaker 3: earned it, ok. You worked, you worked it, you showed
Speaker 3: up right, and you you were in every episode. So
Speaker 3: cause I don't want to guests being like, oh she
Speaker 3: wasn't a lottery. It's like, no, you did a year
Speaker 3: stuff with him and then and then you decide to
Speaker 3: branch on your own exactly.
Speaker 1: And people were definitely seeing me and I was doing
Speaker 1: stuff like basically I was being put on like all
Speaker 1: these different like blind dates and stuff like I was
Speaker 1: like the blind date queen in New York, where like
Speaker 1: I was kind of like not being like during my dates.
Speaker 1: I wasn't always really nice. I was like, ugh, what
Speaker 1: you wearing, nigga? This what the fuck you're gonna put on?
Speaker 1: Coming in here with me? That's how I would talk.
Speaker 1: I've done anymore. But that's how like the videos went.
Speaker 1: So they were very entertaining the kids.
Speaker 3: Were they real blind dates or no, they weren't real? Okay,
Speaker 3: like both cast all the other person on the other side.
Speaker 1: All planned okay, but it was I would hit these
Speaker 1: people up saying hey, well that's when I started doing
Speaker 1: my own stuff. But like Sean used to get the
Speaker 1: blind data, sometimes I didn't even know who it would
Speaker 1: be anyway, because Sean would put me on the date
Speaker 1: and I would just be like getting in a car
Speaker 1: like this blindfolded and stuff.
Speaker 3: So but they were never real people.
Speaker 1: They weren't like real blind daters. I mean, like we're
Speaker 1: real people.
Speaker 3: They were real people, and you were, well, they gonna
Speaker 3: be robot no, you know what I mean. Like, it
Speaker 3: wasn't like, Okay, I put you on a blind date
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna treat them like however you wanna
Speaker 3: treat them. But the person they did not know that
Speaker 3: they were walking I guess they knew.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people don't be knowing what they're walking into. But
Speaker 1: then they know me some some of these people know
Speaker 1: as well, Okay, so and EI are like real people
Speaker 1: that would be like at studio videos with us or
Speaker 1: like they might do stuff for their own as well.
Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, so once you get monetized in a week,
Speaker 3: how addictive was it for you to continually put out content.
Speaker 1: I was definitely a YouTube bird. I was doing my
Speaker 1: YouTube thing. I started my own series of my blind
Speaker 1: dates and have one of my content creator guy friends Ron.
Speaker 1: He was putting me, excuse me, he was putting me
Speaker 1: on all these different blind dates. When I started like
Speaker 1: my own series on my own channel, that went like
Speaker 1: really really well. And then I started doing best friend
Speaker 1: content head and I got introduced to twitch girl and
Speaker 1: I done left you too?
Speaker 3: Now does Twitch make you more money? Because it pays
Speaker 3: more to deal with Twitch?
Speaker 1: So with Twitch it's just like, well, I'm not even
Speaker 1: sure about like making more. No, I feel like you
Speaker 1: do kind of make more money. Actually, it just it
Speaker 1: just depends. Because with YouTube you have something called like
Speaker 1: the RPM, and then with the RPM, I got a
Speaker 1: Friday's up with the RPM. Just don't touch that, please
Speaker 1: got you? With the RPM, the higher the higher it is,
Speaker 1: the more money you make. So like let's say if
Speaker 1: it's six dollars or whatever, you're not making that much.
Speaker 1: But versus if it's like an eight dollar RPM, you're
Speaker 1: gonna make more from your video. Yeah, based off the
Speaker 1: views and stuff like that. But with Twitch, you have
Speaker 1: people in real time sending you gifts, sending you subs,
Speaker 1: or they can actually like if they want to speak
Speaker 1: on there and talk, they can sends where with the
Speaker 1: donation they're able to like tts where they can talk
Speaker 1: on your stream. Okay, like it will be like something
Speaker 1: like Siri talking like this user name says blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Zoe you are so gorgeous like something
Speaker 1: like that, and they'll donate money and then they can like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make me want to get on Twitch. Now
Speaker 1: get on girl club.
Speaker 3: Because now, well you're pro female content creators, which I
Speaker 3: think is unique in the female space because sometimes it's
Speaker 3: hit and miss whether females are pro female or semi
Speaker 3: hater female.
Speaker 1: Semi hater females. Yeah, we have many of those these days.
Speaker 1: But this is life. This is what comes with it.
Speaker 3: Were there any collaborations that you got and you were
Speaker 3: like surprised or and or extremely excited about. Yes.
Speaker 1: So when I first like was able to get sexy Red,
Speaker 1: I was so excited. Yeah, I was literally so so excited.
Speaker 1: And then when it when we went through with it,
Speaker 1: it was so successful. How did that collab come about?
Speaker 1: I think someone from my team because she was she
Speaker 1: came out to New York for like a whole week,
Speaker 1: so she streamed with another streamer and then myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so people are people on the team. We got behind this,
Speaker 1: We got behind the scenes people working helping me out grow.
Speaker 3: I was gonna, I was about to say, because now
Speaker 3: you're you're also adding another layer that you have a team. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: did you build your team or did they kind of
Speaker 3: approach you?
Speaker 1: I would say I definitely build my team and still.
Speaker 3: Is okay, hey you hear that, guys, there's some there's
Speaker 3: some room on the.
Speaker 1: Squad gang gang gang. But I definitely am building like
Speaker 1: a women's team though a woman's like.
Speaker 3: Or oh, you mean like your team is all women mostly? Really,
Speaker 3: do you think it's because you can depend on them
Speaker 3: more or are you I just.
Speaker 1: Like it's just black women just need to win, period. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'd rather be women. Okay, I like that
Speaker 1: for you. I don't got nothing against the men, like
Speaker 1: I'd be on here. I'd be on here going crazy
Speaker 1: with uplifting the women as I should. And it's nothing
Speaker 1: against the men. It's just that y'all got it all.
Speaker 1: So it's like that's the only reason why. So I
Speaker 1: love y'all men too. Still, but you gotta put the
Speaker 1: ladies first these days because it's just too much on
Speaker 1: women these days, Like it's just not the same.
Speaker 3: So this is my bias, and this is probably it
Speaker 3: could be inaccurate. Don't fact check me, but I feel like,
Speaker 3: if you have a team and it's men and women, yeah,
Speaker 3: the women end up carrying most of the weight and
Speaker 3: the men become manicaps. So it's it's like it almost
Speaker 3: works better if you have, say all men are all women.
Speaker 3: But I see guys coming in here and they have
Speaker 3: all men team, really, and I see women coming here
Speaker 3: and they have well, not that many women have an
Speaker 3: all women team, but I will say you today you
Speaker 3: had a whole woman's squad, which was impressive. But I
Speaker 3: don't think I have had a guest on the show
Speaker 3: that had.
Speaker 1: An all woman really squad.
Speaker 3: But not every guest comes with a squad.
Speaker 1: Now, it might be hard. It might be hard because
Speaker 1: we all get our periods. We all get our periods,
Speaker 1: we all have those days. But we should just still
Speaker 1: be uplifting each other because we just should a lot
Speaker 1: of people try to like bash us a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: and then it's like we don't get the same treatment
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so we should just come together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's how I feel.
Speaker 3: So what's the hardest part of your business?
Speaker 1: Right now? I would say some that smells good, thank you,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. The hardest part, I would say the hardest
Speaker 1: part is really like staying focused and being consistent because
Speaker 1: I feel like you get I get I'm of every
Speaker 1: I'm a person that gets distracted very easily, turn off girls.
Speaker 1: I'm killing her. Y'all people that watch you so scary,
Speaker 1: I really want to make and then.
Speaker 3: She talks like this and You're just like, please, God,
Speaker 3: don't let those fingernails hit melt. Okay, So now I
Speaker 3: got thrown off foes asking.
Speaker 1: Man, you said, I hold on. You said something good.
Speaker 3: You said I was like asking about the hardest part
Speaker 3: of your business.
Speaker 1: What's the hardest part of my business? And you said
Speaker 1: staying focused, staying focused, staying consistent, because you know, like,
Speaker 1: I get distracted very easily, and I feel like distracted
Speaker 1: by what though anything. You drop a pen, I'm focused
Speaker 1: on the pen.
Speaker 3: How how many hours a day do you put it
Speaker 3: into streaming?
Speaker 1: Okay, right now I'm not on my I'm not on
Speaker 1: my shit. I'm gonna be honest. Okay, right now I'm
Speaker 1: not on my shit. I'm gonna get on my ship.
Speaker 1: But right now I'm not on my ship. But when
Speaker 1: I was on it eight eight hours a day, not
Speaker 1: even a day, but maybe I might do like a
Speaker 1: three day thing. Eight if I game, it's gonna be over.
Speaker 1: Twelve if I game, Oh, if I get the gaming,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be over ten hours for sure. Wow, gaming,
Speaker 1: you get locked into there? So what are you distracted
Speaker 1: by currently? Currently? Okay, I'm about to get a little
Speaker 1: bit sentimental now. So right now, I'm just at a
Speaker 1: point where it's like I'm just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out my like my career because
Speaker 1: I really want to be an actress and I really
Speaker 1: want to get started on locking in with that. Like
Speaker 1: you can do everything at once, yet if you put
Speaker 1: your heart in one thing, more like it's gonna work out,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like like I'm dedicated to streaming
Speaker 1: right now. But if I'm dedicated to streaming, how am
Speaker 1: I gonna become this big movie star? You know? So,
Speaker 1: like I'm really trying to figure out like that part
Speaker 1: of my life right now. And then like with streaming
Speaker 1: right now has become less fun. It's become less of
Speaker 1: me wanting to do it because of all of like
Speaker 1: the it just starts. It just started to get very
Speaker 1: like right now, like streaming kind of just became less
Speaker 1: fun and just like it's more like very acting now.
Speaker 1: It's like because it used to be very just like
Speaker 1: improv and just fun and just yeah, short, short, short
Speaker 1: and proven I got you. It's like this.
Speaker 3: Look your hands begins, so turn it off. Turn it off,
Speaker 3: all right, So plate the dish, eat us. What are
Speaker 3: we doing rice?
Speaker 1: Oh it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3: We're gonna we got some cold rice here.
Speaker 1: Yes, we have some. You should have had some balls.
Speaker 3: I didn't know how you ate this, okay, I didn't
Speaker 3: know if it was gonna be a rice with beans
Speaker 3: on the side.
Speaker 1: Here. Use this as, oh, you really want a bowl?
Speaker 3: No, you're gonna sacrifice, okay, because I want to get
Speaker 3: into your story right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, leave it, leave it.
Speaker 3: So now let's go back. Yes, and we're gonna go
Speaker 3: back to some of the hurdles up streaming.
Speaker 1: This looks great on the side, however you do it,
Speaker 1: I really do it in a bowl and eat it
Speaker 1: like its soup.
Speaker 3: But then where do you put the rice on the side? Look,
Speaker 3: sorry for ruining your bowl fantasy. Let's try this. So, guys,
Speaker 3: I was trying to figure out the difference between baked
Speaker 3: beans and pork and beans, and according to the can,
Speaker 3: this is tomato sauce. I don't know if the baked
Speaker 3: beans always come out sweet. So that's that was my conclusion.
Speaker 1: Tomato sauce. In tomato sauce.
Speaker 3: Now she's gonna view her her thing differently.
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead try it. Oh, you try it
Speaker 1: in tomato, so I don't beginning. I went in the hood.
Speaker 1: I get Canto's porking beans. Girl. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: You're gonna eat it.
Speaker 3: It tastes the same, you madcal This is tomato sauce.
Speaker 1: Don't judge your own. Get down with this right now.
Speaker 1: I like it with the rice, even not in a bowl.
Speaker 3: Good, good, Joey.
Speaker 1: I like the way you did your hot dogs. Nobody
Speaker 1: ever really liked that.
Speaker 3: I like it with the crunchy, little fake burnt, the
Speaker 3: overtan in the tanning bit too.
Speaker 1: Long, It's still nice and soft. Mm okay, I could cook, Joe.
Speaker 3: What were you saying about the streaming being like more
Speaker 3: like fake and less improvably.
Speaker 1: Yes, so yes, so basically I like how we really
Speaker 1: like this though.
Speaker 3: I like how you you eating it too, though I
Speaker 3: was scared you weren't gonna eat it because of the tomato.
Speaker 3: All right, go on, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It feels like Brooklyn in here. M Jesus is great,
Speaker 1: thank you, and you have to have you see why
Speaker 1: you have to have sugar. You cannot be without the sugar.
Speaker 3: That's why why we don't taste the tomato sauce.
Speaker 1: Real to make like I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 1: It don't look like tomato sauce. But yes, So as
Speaker 1: of right now, it's like I really want to, like
Speaker 1: I really want to start going into like my career
Speaker 1: path of acting and getting into like some classes and
Speaker 1: doing some like going out there. What do I do
Speaker 1: when you like auditions, going to do auditions, like really
Speaker 1: landing something for real, because like I don't want to
Speaker 1: stream forever obviously, and then right now with streaming, it's
Speaker 1: like I feel like some of the love has kind
Speaker 1: of been taken out of it. It's just like like
Speaker 1: people like people make things, you know, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like people people like, for example, if you go to
Speaker 1: a party, people were going to make the party, right yeah,
Speaker 1: So I feel like people make like the platform what
Speaker 1: it is and what it's becoming is, and like it
Speaker 1: has become so it has become like so like fake.
Speaker 1: It's not fun anymore. I can see that.
Speaker 3: How do your parents that you've been doing it for
Speaker 3: a while, how do your parents perceive your career when
Speaker 3: it comes to the streaming and the online content.
Speaker 1: So at first, with like the whole content thing, they
Speaker 1: didn't really like, you know, again, my parents are older,
Speaker 1: so they weren't really like like, you're really making real
Speaker 1: money from this, Like this is really making you money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was kind of like I feel like it was
Speaker 1: a little bit unbelievable at firsts that I'm until I
Speaker 1: really start making money and like attention start. Like if
Speaker 1: I'm outside with my parents and they're seeing all these
Speaker 1: people come up to me for pictures, It's like what
Speaker 1: the hell? They literally like what the hell? They're literally
Speaker 1: like what And like today now obviously it's like one
Speaker 1: hundred percent they believe everything, But at first it was
Speaker 1: just like you ain't like you gotta go get a
Speaker 1: real job where you gotta go get benefits and you
Speaker 1: need to go get your your health insurance and get
Speaker 1: your dentals and all of that.
Speaker 3: And what about the acting side though? Are they also like, well,
Speaker 3: you got a degree in arts, Like what are you
Speaker 3: doing with that?
Speaker 1: Well with the whole acting thing, because I've been like
Speaker 1: so like tonal vision or like content, I haven't really
Speaker 1: like talked about the whole acting thing, but recently, like
Speaker 1: this summer, I was doing like a lot of self
Speaker 1: tapes and stuff. So I'm showing my family and stuff.
Speaker 3: But are they but are they taking it positively or
Speaker 3: do you feel like there's a little bit of negative?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: for sure positive. I'm always out though. So my mom
Speaker 1: be like, you need you need time for yourself. You
Speaker 1: need to sit down and you need to just relax
Speaker 1: for a second. You can't go work at all these
Speaker 1: places and go to all these events and everything. You
Speaker 1: have to take time for yourself, which is true, because
Speaker 1: you do got to sit down sometimes.
Speaker 3: Is she feeling like now you're working out too much?
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes, but she definitely like understands no.
Speaker 3: Because what she's saying you need time for yourself, it
Speaker 3: almost sounds like there's like.
Speaker 1: A because sometimes like let's say I'll be like on
Speaker 1: a two week run, Like let's say I'll go like Atlanta,
Speaker 1: New York, LA, which I just did. So it's like
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting down right now, like on a two
Speaker 1: week run, and like if I get back home, it's
Speaker 1: like sit down, okay, like that just you know, I'm
Speaker 1: still their little baby.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it's harder to come from the
Speaker 3: content creator space to cross over into acting now, I'm
Speaker 3: starting to feel like they're being a little bit more
Speaker 3: lenient on content creators.
Speaker 1: Seems a little bit more lenient now. I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of things are more lenient now, and I
Speaker 1: feel like they go hand in hand because you know,
Speaker 1: like with content and like with all of the videos
Speaker 1: that I've created so far, I work on my craft
Speaker 1: while doing that. So like I'm like in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm in my acting bag right now,
Speaker 1: although I'm shooting content and I'm my authentic self, but
Speaker 1: I'm still like acting as well, because I mean I
Speaker 1: do still turn it on for the camera. I'm not
Speaker 1: really turning much on because I'm the same way, but
Speaker 1: I'm still like turning it on. Yes, know how to
Speaker 1: turn it off.
Speaker 3: Is there a parameter that is there a you sound
Speaker 3: like me, that's how I'll be talking.
Speaker 1: Is there a.
Speaker 3: Bar that you have in regards to like accepting roles
Speaker 3: for acting? Is there, like it does it have to
Speaker 3: have a certain paycheck or does it have to have
Speaker 3: a certain cash Like do you have a I don't
Speaker 3: want to see the word barameter again.
Speaker 1: Bar No, I get it now. When you said bar
Speaker 1: I put it together. So as of right now, I'm
Speaker 1: going to say no just because I don't have projects.
Speaker 1: So it's like you can't be acting for all of
Speaker 1: this if you don't got nothing to show. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I got something to show in a different world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But those are two different worlds because I feel like
Speaker 1: the directors don't get don't care if you got ten
Speaker 1: million you're the best content creator in the world. You
Speaker 1: have to be the best actress actor in the world.
Speaker 1: It's two different worlds at the end of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they're looking for like good actors and actresses. They
Speaker 1: don't always care about those numbers because then you would
Speaker 1: see so many content creators in movies. You don't see.
Speaker 3: That, no, But I do notice that when content creators
Speaker 3: do crossover, there's like I know, like Melvin Gregg, I
Speaker 3: don't know if you know who he is. He's an
Speaker 3: LA content creator. Like once he started switching over the movies,
Speaker 3: you see him completely. It's almost like distance himself from
Speaker 3: content creating.
Speaker 1: But just like DC Young Fly, Remember he was seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of content and then he was in that
Speaker 1: movie on Netflix or something like that, and he got
Speaker 1: the show too, what show look?
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. He dc owns his whole everything.
Speaker 1: And then he did that movie. Do you remember that
Speaker 1: movie on Netflix? It was like a funny movie about weed.
Speaker 1: It was like a weed. He was how High I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look? Okay, he was in something called How High?
Speaker 1: And yeah, after that, you said, the other guy, he
Speaker 1: distanced hmself from distance.
Speaker 3: But it's weird because now you're seeing it more and
Speaker 3: more movies, content creators pop out. So I feel like
Speaker 3: you working hard on your numbers on this end. It's
Speaker 3: beneficial and just now you guys gotta I guess crossover
Speaker 3: on the acting side and improves the people.
Speaker 1: Why so how these numbers can benefit y'all and get
Speaker 1: all of that? No, for sure?
Speaker 3: Is there any type of acting role that you're specifically
Speaker 3: would like to try out for?
Speaker 1: Is it comedy? Drama? Definitely? Comedy? Definitely. I want to
Speaker 1: do a movie with Regina. A lot of people compare
Speaker 1: me to her. I get a lot of comparisons where
Speaker 1: they're like, you guys need to do a mommy' daughter
Speaker 1: okay film? I think that would be so hot. Did
Speaker 1: you see a man of her too. I love Regina Hole.
Speaker 3: Did you see my I saw, I saw it.
Speaker 1: I saw Yeah, I got the braids, every piece of
Speaker 1: outfit down to the ground. I was looking just like
Speaker 1: that lady. I think that would be really good. But
Speaker 1: the roles that I would definitely want a book is
Speaker 1: things that I'm uncomfortable with and comfortable with, as far
Speaker 1: as like uncomfortability, as far as like doing something that's
Speaker 1: just like out of my Yeah, what would that look like,
Speaker 1: because like obviously people look at me like as like
Speaker 1: I'm just like this comedy. I could do like some
Speaker 1: comedy for sure, and some drama, but something on the
Speaker 1: sides of like scary movie but like actually a scary
Speaker 1: movie or something like sentimental where it's like she's like
Speaker 1: they never see me serious, like when they see me seriously.
Speaker 3: I feel like I would be shocked to see you
Speaker 3: like play like a serious like dead asst Like I
Speaker 3: feel like halle Berry does a good job at like.
Speaker 1: You kinda look like Ali hilarious but but like I
Speaker 1: ain't even see that to your.
Speaker 3: But I do feel like she does a good job
Speaker 3: at like like because I do think when you're physically
Speaker 3: beautiful like, I think Michael B. Jordan's physically beautiful, which
Speaker 3: makes it kind of hard, in my opinion, to see
Speaker 3: him as an actor. Sometimes I feel like I feel
Speaker 3: like his beauty kind of takes away from his no way,
Speaker 3: ye no. But I feel like halle Berry and j
Speaker 3: Lo do such a great job in acting that even
Speaker 3: though they're both very stunning, they're not afraid to like
Speaker 3: downgrade their stunningness. But I think because Michael B. Jordan
Speaker 3: is literally like, you can't unmake up him, it's hard
Speaker 3: to see him as a great You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Have you worked for him, by the way, No, but
Speaker 1: but manifest that.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I manifest him as my husband, Michael,
Speaker 3: my any of the above. If you work with him,
Speaker 3: you you You know what I'm saying. I got friends
Speaker 3: that know him, but they haven't connected because I heard
Speaker 3: he's like a little ho ho.
Speaker 1: I mean shit, I get it.
Speaker 3: I get it, That's all I get it.
Speaker 1: If I look like him, I'll probably be a little yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay. There was a content creator that was talking about
Speaker 3: mental health and sometimes how the numbers of followers don't
Speaker 3: equate to the actual money. Can you talk on that
Speaker 3: your perspective obviously.
Speaker 1: So the numbers don't equate with the money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, like I think there's an assumption that, oh,
Speaker 3: this person has and it was a content creator that
Speaker 3: put out a video like a couple of days ago,
Speaker 3: and he was just like, an assumption is I have
Speaker 3: say four million followers on this platform. Then the assumption
Speaker 3: is that I'm making a crazy amount of money.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can say that they actually don't equate because
Speaker 1: he got four million, But what if he got that
Speaker 1: four million like a while ago or something and he's
Speaker 1: not producing, like that's content and like being consistent and working.
Speaker 1: It's it's not the same, you know, like I have.
Speaker 1: I think I just hit four hundred sub followers on
Speaker 1: Twitch now four hundred thousand. Sorry, I just hit four
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. But I haven't been consistent, So I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna see all this big money if I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: doing anything about it, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: then how's the mental health? I can say that, like
Speaker 1: sometimes the numbers, like being in the midst of it,
Speaker 1: it can discoverage you a little bit because it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's say let's say I haven't streamed for
Speaker 1: a while and I come back and now I got
Speaker 1: like three hunting, I'd be like, oh, so like irritated.
Speaker 1: I'd be kind of wanting to get off, But you
Speaker 1: can't get off because I have built it back up
Speaker 1: again because they haven't seen you in a while, so
Speaker 1: they're not coming to your pay because you ain't been
Speaker 1: here in a while. They thinking that, Okay, she's not
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yah, So that kind of
Speaker 1: like that kind of like messes with the mentor a
Speaker 1: little bit. But if you know, like I'm very confident
Speaker 1: in myself. I know that I can leave and I
Speaker 1: could come back and be popping again because I have
Speaker 1: it in me. If you ain't got it in you,
Speaker 1: then it's like you need to think about your life
Speaker 1: and yourself. However, when me, like, I got it so bad,
Speaker 1: not being cocky, I have it so bad that like
Speaker 1: it's my gift, so I don't be too bothered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think it's interesting that the numbers
Speaker 3: do mess with you, because I'm starting to wonder if
Speaker 3: social media is actually good for us, even at content creators.
Speaker 3: I mean they're not like because content creators also, like
Speaker 3: you guys, put in a lot of work. You know
Speaker 3: and then sometimes because the algorithms are the forces that
Speaker 3: are invisible, that be change or up, it can also
Speaker 3: affect you. But like, are you guys, are you looking
Speaker 3: at the numbers?
Speaker 1: Are you looking at the dollars?
Speaker 3: You know, I think it sounds like you look at both,
Speaker 3: but definitely the do you look at both? But it seems
Speaker 3: like the numbers kind of but they mess with you
Speaker 3: a little, but.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really like it doesn't really like sometimes it does.
Speaker 1: But it's my fault though, you know, as far as
Speaker 1: like you can see numbers and you can see all
Speaker 1: this greatness for yourself if you're doing what you have
Speaker 1: to do. If I'm coming in and I'm like getting
Speaker 1: mentally stressed out about numbers, well, why is your numbers
Speaker 1: that way? You got to take some type of accountability
Speaker 1: for yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like you can check yourself out personally, Zoway.
Speaker 3: But it does sound like there is a there's a
Speaker 3: pre just discussion there. There's like, oh man, the numbers
Speaker 3: are low, and it does affect you a little bit,
Speaker 3: even though you're it sounds like you're able to recover
Speaker 3: and self talk and like you know what you bring
Speaker 3: to the table. But I do think that it still
Speaker 3: needs to be acknowledged some degree that it does play
Speaker 3: with your mental a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm so hardcore hunk. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 3: Because you're from New York.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I don't care, and then you got
Speaker 1: pieces of you in the back that care.
Speaker 3: But do you have a like a bag amount that
Speaker 3: you have to make a month where you like, no
Speaker 3: matter what, I gotta do work every.
Speaker 1: I don't even really like set money goals of like
Speaker 1: what I want to make every month. I actually don't
Speaker 1: do that. That's actually something I should do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, and just figure out a way to like
Speaker 3: maintain it. What advice would you give to people trying
Speaker 3: to get into this lane, especially the female streamers, because
Speaker 3: I know you're in support of.
Speaker 1: Them absolutely well to the females of course, So you
Speaker 1: just really have to, like you have to like coming
Speaker 1: into this, you really have to like be mentally prepared, physically, spiritually,
Speaker 1: and mentally because it's not like it's very male dominated.
Speaker 1: It's not like they don't. It's not for us, but
Speaker 1: it can be and it should be. But you just
Speaker 1: really have to be grounded in this because any anything
Speaker 1: that you may do that, the world may not like
Speaker 1: they will get you quicker than they would get a male.
Speaker 1: So you just really have to stay grounded and be consistent,
Speaker 1: be strong, and if it's something that's really for you,
Speaker 1: then do that. If it's not, don't because a lot
Speaker 1: a stream is not for everybody. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: people say, how can you sit there and have just
Speaker 1: camera on you all day? And there's no time for yourself.
Speaker 1: So it's like, do it if you really want to
Speaker 1: do it, you know, and also really try hard to
Speaker 1: try hard to be consistent and focused because I struggle
Speaker 1: with that personally. So if you're eys have a person
Speaker 1: who struggle struggle with being consistent and very focused, that's
Speaker 1: what you really need in this field for sure. And
Speaker 1: to be strong for real because people and we end
Speaker 1: up seeing a lot of girls crying on twitch on
Speaker 1: twitch me myself and I was one of them. So
Speaker 1: you just really got you really gotta be strong because
Speaker 1: then yeah, but shout out to the ladies though, because
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie. They actually been eating on
Speaker 1: twitch is we have? So it's so many girls on
Speaker 1: twitch now, which I.
Speaker 3: Love, And do you ever get to collab with each other.
Speaker 1: I've collabed with. I've collabsed with some Right now, I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to lock in with myself and really like
Speaker 1: get myself on on here. Good.
Speaker 3: But and and it seems like you're also considering pivoting out,
Speaker 3: not pivoting out, but I guess adding, adding, adding.
Speaker 1: Not even pivoting out. Actually, I'm gonna juggle as long
Speaker 1: as I want to juggle, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You definitely look like you could do it too.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I call myself a jack of old trade. I
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Speaker 1: you serious?
Speaker 3: This whole time? You let me say A one hundred times.
Speaker 1: Because my name is Zoe. Wait, like, my name is Zoe,
Speaker 1: so your name is Zoe Spencer.
Speaker 3: I don't understand this is this is the real Oh
Speaker 3: that's how you're supposed to spell.
Speaker 1: No, No, this is like my real name, Zoe. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: and that's my real actual name. How you spell it?
Speaker 1: But I don't spell it like that. On my platform.
Speaker 1: It's just Zoe for short.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, let me see that again.
Speaker 1: I'm getting confused. Okay, so this is if I'm allowed
Speaker 1: to say that out loud. Yeah, don't. This is really me.
Speaker 1: But this is really my name. Okay, but Zoe Spencer
Speaker 1: for sure, because so Zoe Spencer Spencer. But if you
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Speaker 3: So I get the past.
Speaker 1: I got no, you're you can say whatever you want
Speaker 1: Zoe Spencer. But you know, God whispered in my ear
Speaker 1: Zoe's real name, and so I went with it.
Speaker 3: And that's what we do on eating while broke. We
Speaker 3: do our researcher make sure that the real name is represented.
Speaker 1: But Zoe Spencer.
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Speaker 3: I want to do a reintro in No, it's okay,
Speaker 3: it's okay.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you that was I get why you
Speaker 1: did it, though, I always tell people that.
Speaker 3: I get why because it's your real name is Zoe.
Speaker 3: So that's why you would people because it's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: Zoe Spencer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's Zoe Spencer. That's how I that's how
Speaker 1: we get the name.
Speaker 3: And yes, thank you guys for tuning in.
Speaker 1: Peace Out, peace Out,