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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're about ready to get

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Speaker 1: out of dodge, at least some of us. I'm Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal here in the Indianapolis Convention Center. I have a

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Speaker 1: flight in about three hours, plenty of time for us

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Speaker 1: to honk as much as we want.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Rodrigue not anxious.

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Speaker 3: At all about that.

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Speaker 1: Greg, you have a meeting to get to you know

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Speaker 1: who can say if you'll get to it in time.

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Speaker 1: Big show today, more news coming up. We had a

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Speaker 1: handful more of coaches and gms at the podium here

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. We had more news come out on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: evening that I wanted to kind of get into this

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Speaker 1: show some more updates, and we heard from some listeners

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Speaker 1: shout out to Nick Costas, by the way, who's a

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Speaker 1: great show on Westwood One, who says he loves the

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Speaker 1: Little Nuggets episode. So we have a lot more Little Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: But we also have some big time interviews coming up

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Speaker 1: on this show. A couple of gms will wrap the show.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Brandon Bean of the Buffalo Bills and

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Speaker 1: Omar Khan of the Pittsburgh Steelers. But before that, we're

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Speaker 1: going to fly through the news and I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of screaming headlines, but the Colts are

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Speaker 1: a team that I'm going to start with. We'll call

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Speaker 1: this Colts Corner because there was about five things that

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Speaker 1: came out of their media availabilities. Number one to me

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Speaker 1: would be Chris Ballard's confidence that Daniel Jones and Alec

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Speaker 1: Pierce aren't going anywhere one way or another.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know that's a smart thing. That's a

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Speaker 4: smart decision. You obviously don't want other teams to pay

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Speaker 4: your good players that you've committed to. The injury has

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Speaker 4: always thrown a wrench into this, I think in our

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Speaker 4: thinking on the outside of this too. But clearly the

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Speaker 4: Colts are committed to the point where they're talking about

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Speaker 4: the deals themselves and how they could potentially get done,

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Speaker 4: and also the tools that Chris Ballard said could be

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Speaker 4: used to get those deals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said he doesn't want to use the franchise tag,

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Speaker 1: but they in the end if they had to. But

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Speaker 1: the way that he spoke about it, the confidence, just

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Speaker 1: gave the impression that both deals are potentially further along

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Speaker 1: than we would have any idea with about before he spoke.

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Speaker 1: So more in this space soon. They tried to shoot

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Speaker 1: down the Michael Pittman idea. We'll find out some other

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Speaker 1: nuggets though there. Charvarius Ward is expected to return to

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Speaker 1: the team. He had talked openly about retirement, and they

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Speaker 1: expect to Forrest Buckner back by training camp from his injury,

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Speaker 1: which means a he's not getting cut.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think he was retiring. He's still playing at

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Speaker 2: a high level.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't know about the status of those two veterans,

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Speaker 1: so I thought maybe that was a way they.

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Speaker 2: Could free up some cap space.

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Speaker 1: But those are two big time players, big time names

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Speaker 1: that we'll be back.

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Speaker 4: And when you talk about freeing up cap space, that's

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Speaker 4: what makes to me the extensions for both Daniel Jones

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Speaker 4: do that with extensions in the short term much better

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Speaker 4: than a franchise or any sort of of these quote

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Speaker 4: unquote tools that Chris Ballard doesn't like to use, rarely

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Speaker 4: rarely uses them.

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Speaker 3: And they talk.

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Speaker 4: They treat their Beat really well, Chris Ballard and Shane

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Speaker 4: Steiken do. They talked for like a couple of hours

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Speaker 4: just think it informs It's interesting because in those types

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Speaker 4: get done. I only say this to say it's very

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Speaker 2: And maybe Pittman, who they might extend.

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Speaker 1: I thought, like, that's another opportunity to lower his cap number,

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Speaker 1: Obviously Rokwon Smith's gone. They are allowing Edmunds to seek

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Speaker 2: I don't think it would be like for a.

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Speaker 1: Big a big cost draft pick wise, but maybe you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: I think this is kind of a classy way to

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Speaker 4: of make yourself as a front office look very good

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Speaker 4: it's kind of like a win win if you're the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it also means that Tremaine Edmunds would be making

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Speaker 2: You've been noticing.

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Speaker 1: Bo Wolf, who's been on the ground reporting on the situation.

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Speaker 1: It's been the year of the shacket here at the Combine.

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Speaker 1: I think it's been coming for a while. It worries me, frankly,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Rabel was sort of trendsetting. He's one of

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Speaker 4: So my theory is that they only owned like one

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Speaker 3: But it is certainly surging.

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Speaker 4: My group chat is commenting on this as well, very

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Speaker 1: Well, there was a guy who wore the exact same

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Speaker 3: Hear it made you miserable.

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Speaker 2: And he's been killed.

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Speaker 1: He's he's in a dumpster somewhere in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: You know what we never hit on the show.

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Speaker 1: Zach Kerr is the new defensive coordinator for the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel talked about that power does Zach Kerr, who.

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Speaker 4: We did a great job and in kind of a

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Speaker 1: The Cancas jam Trell Williams with an undisclosed role.

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Speaker 4: I think that's great because he's recovering from a very

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Speaker 4: that person does call plays on Rabel's staff. Zacher did

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Speaker 2: I Ali threw it out.

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Speaker 1: They you know, thought that once the Browns didn't get

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ready for the big US.

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Speaker 4: You can't if you promote him to defensive coordinator, which

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Speaker 1: To do absolutely in terms of a coordinator job. But

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Speaker 1: like Todd Monkin was today. You mentioned not wearing team gear.

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Speaker 1: He was wearing like a powder blue I think it

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Speaker 1: It's a little disarming when someone doesn't wear the team colors.

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Speaker 1: One thing someone's that with the Brown's got to talk

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. And I we could.

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Speaker 4: You know, we need to fact check this, obviously, Greg,

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Speaker 4: this is really important that we do. It looked like

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Speaker 4: one of those like fishing shirts that like.

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Speaker 4: You can't be a Brown Southern Southern guys wear like

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Speaker 4: Salt Life or whatever the hell it's called. Like, you

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Speaker 4: know this SPF, you know, the lights are so bright

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Speaker 4: on Todd Munkin right now.

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Speaker 1: I watched him because he's been so loose with the media.

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Speaker 1: He just says stuff and he's got that gravelly voice

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Speaker 1: that sounds like I think he's been smoking cigarettes always.

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Speaker 1: Like like if you were looking for an old coach,

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Speaker 1: like for a Friday Night Lights.

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Speaker 2: Reboot, like he he.

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Speaker 1: Would be perfect as like kind of like the former

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Speaker 3: He's back when football was real.

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Speaker 2: He's just that dude.

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Speaker 1: So I was like a little disappointed he didn't have

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Speaker 1: He wants ten million dollars per year according to Cowboys

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Speaker 4: Marry Jones does not care about resetting the market.

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Speaker 3: I promise you.

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Speaker 1: The kicker wants ten, the Cowboys are offering seven and

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Speaker 2: I bet it ends up around nine.

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Speaker 1: Like they have to pay the people all this money

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Speaker 3: You didn't get enough screen time this week?

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Speaker 4: He is just very calm, doesn't take the bait on

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Speaker 2: He noted that, you said too.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, no, He said that one of his coaches

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Speaker 2: Well, it's weird.

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Speaker 1: You got the Super Bowl winner with way less people like,

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Speaker 3: Mention me in that lineup.

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Speaker 1: Greg I you know, I love you know Tashay Spears,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a team that will never use the tag is

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Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk waiting to see if any interest pops up

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Speaker 4: I think it's an interesting way to handle that too.

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Speaker 4: We were talking in our previous show about where that

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Speaker 2: This is their move, It is Jimmy Garoppolo stuff. Back

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Speaker 1: They've done it with different guys that were holding out

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Speaker 1: They publicly also said earlier this off season offseason they

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Speaker 1: maybe want to get younger. So that strikes me as

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Speaker 1: maybe they're throwing the fishing line out just to see

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Speaker 1: if anyone wants to give up a pick for Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: Do you think anyone wouldn't?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Like maybe a late want.

448
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Speaker 4: It has to be a team looking for a bridge quarterback,

449
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Speaker 4: Like you're not just gonna trade for a backup right

450
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Speaker 4: like or unless it's a bridge quarterback or there's an

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Speaker 4: injury that is more significant or the timeline has changed

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Speaker 4: on an injury, Like it's absolutely if you're a team

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Speaker 4: in a bridge situation, and even then I don't think.

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Speaker 1: That that's thirty eight. He's looked okay when he's played lately,

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Speaker 1: but no, this.

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Speaker 3: Is like a couple of weeks bridge.

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Speaker 1: He's getting cut, is my takeaway. When you're hearing these

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Speaker 1: getting calls right before free agency, that indicates to me

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Speaker 1: and Tremaine Edmonds is more of an open one and

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Speaker 1: I think he could actually get traded. That they're just

461
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Speaker 1: they're just fishing and we'll probably see Andy Dalton reach

462
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Speaker 1: free agency. Jesse Minter spoke to the media and one

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Speaker 1: thing we missed we did talk about it a little

464
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Speaker 1: bit was that nomde Maide Vike is in great spirits,

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Speaker 1: that he's spoken to him, he's been in the facility.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention that and that the decision

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Speaker 1: whether to retire or not is quote up to him.

468
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Speaker 1: He has a big cap figure, he's one of the

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Speaker 1: better defensive tackles in the league. So just more on

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Speaker 1: this situation coming up in the in the next two

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Speaker 1: weeks and on NFL daily, because either they're going to

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Speaker 1: have one of the better at defensive tackles in the league,

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Speaker 1: or they're gonna have to cut him like there, or

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Speaker 1: he's going to retire. So we'll find out. Let's listen

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Speaker 1: to some sound. I just found this funny from Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned glancingly a few weeks ago about how bo

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Speaker 1: Nicks called his own press conference because he wasn't happy

478
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Speaker 1: about how Sean Peyton talked about his injury.

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Speaker 2: Is their trouble in Denver?

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to get into the injury. What I

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Speaker 6: meant predisposed is there was a slight that was he's

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Speaker 6: not and there weren't multiple. So I have a problem,

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Speaker 6: and Mike I apologize. I have a problem when someone's

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Speaker 6: quoting me to him on a conference call and they're inaccurate,

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Speaker 6: and they're one of our locals. That shouldn't be all right,

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Speaker 6: next question.

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Speaker 1: I just love this happened multiple times in this press conference.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton not only like ignored someone who was speaking

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Speaker 1: directly to him, he talked over him, ignored him and said, no,

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Speaker 1: you talk instead. And I'm he was punishing the local

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Speaker 1: beat writer that he thinks got him in trouble with

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Speaker 1: his quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He was as spired on and you know what, and

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Speaker 4: Sean Payton knows this. This is becoming appointment television these

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Speaker 4: press conferences, whether it's Bonix or Sean Payton or some

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Speaker 4: combination of the two. Certainly with Sean Payton in regards

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Speaker 4: to anything bon Nicks, it's becoming appointment television. He has

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Speaker 4: always been somebody who's enjoyed doing these types of things

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Speaker 4: or kind of playing these little these games and whatnot

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Speaker 4: with the media or through the media.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he has favorites.

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Speaker 1: He puts people in the penalty box for like months

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Speaker 1: at a time.

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Speaker 4: At his you know, a ten year and age and

505
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Speaker 4: at this point and his comfort level, you know, with

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Speaker 4: where he's at, he's just doing it right in front

507
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Speaker 4: of everybody more and gives no fs about it.

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Speaker 2: It was embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I was a tough situation, I thought for the reporter,

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Speaker 1: and I know broncos of fans will just be like, ah,

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Speaker 1: you're making something out of nothing here. It was misreported.

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Speaker 1: I went back and checked the tape. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that anyone did Sean Payton any dirty here. I actually

514
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Speaker 1: think John Payton is so annoyed because there's actually something here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ian do you actually think that.

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Speaker 1: Remember how bo Nicks made his own press conference because

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Speaker 1: he didn't like how Sean Payton handled his injury publicly.

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Speaker 2: Is there some there there? You know, a little a

519
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Speaker 2: little bo Nicks Sean Payton friction.

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Speaker 1: And then it came out a little bit on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: too where Sean Payton's really mad at the reporter he

522
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Speaker 1: thinks got got him in trouble with Bonicks.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think there's friction, but I think

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Speaker 7: it was a further emphasis that both of the very

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Speaker 7: important people in the Broncos organization would like to control

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Speaker 7: their own messa.

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Speaker 3: Aren't they similar to you?

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Speaker 4: They feel like such similar guys to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking so how it works closer you are to

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Speaker 2: the mic, yet they can hear you.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was okay.

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Speaker 7: This is like I'm like Freddie Mercury with the holding

533
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Speaker 7: the mic stand.

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Speaker 2: No, I thought it was I thought it was fine.

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Speaker 7: I didn't think there's any friction, because friction is more

536
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Speaker 7: like we're not on the same page. We can't co

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Speaker 7: exist in like a football sense. This was more like, hey,

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Speaker 7: stop talking about my injury. Hey, I'm a head coach.

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Speaker 7: I can do whatever. It's like but also like bon

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Speaker 7: Nix's is going to be one of the faces of

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Speaker 7: the Broncos and Sean Payton is currently the face of

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Speaker 7: the Broncos. That would be interesting to track as far

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Speaker 7: as like how it goes and who has the.

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Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. I like what you said about.

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Speaker 1: These are two men that are used to controlling the narrative,

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Speaker 1: and I just think there's a healthy amount of like

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Speaker 1: creative difference sometimes do so. Sean Payton called a pretty

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Speaker 1: crazy play call that got Bix heard right.

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Speaker 3: That's more that's more common.

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Speaker 2: I don't think b Nix is bad about that.

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Speaker 8: You can't predict.

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Speaker 4: Injuries though, that's more common that that tension.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you Ian.

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Speaker 4: That's Ian Rappaport. Everybody that there's that's more tension. There's

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Speaker 4: more tension like that in more buildings than people would think,

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Speaker 4: because because it's all about like who is the face,

557
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Speaker 4: who wants to be the face of something? And sometimes

558
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Speaker 4: it is a clear infrastructural system that makes sure that

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Speaker 4: everything all roads leap back to the coach. And we're

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Speaker 4: seeing a lot of it with the like the tree guys,

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Speaker 4: for example, and if the quarterback has two tree yeah,

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Speaker 4: as Patrick would say, the tree.

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Speaker 3: But if the.

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Speaker 4: Quarterback and the quarterback sort of there's an understanding there, right.

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Speaker 4: And it's interesting because I I love this because this

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Speaker 4: is two guys and Bonix and Sean Payton in my opinion,

567
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Speaker 4: who are so similar, so similar, and so of course

568
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Speaker 4: when you know two like minds are gonna be in

569
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Speaker 4: tensely competitive situations, like, there's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Some tension, right, And you mentioned there's more of that

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Speaker 1: in in every building, and it's like, yeah, that there's

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Speaker 1: more of that in every workplace, in any place where

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Speaker 1: there is power to be.

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Speaker 4: I know Greg that you are the brand, so don't

575
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Speaker 4: don't ever worry about that with me.

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Speaker 1: It's the year of the co hosts. All right, let's

577
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Speaker 1: fire through so you can get to your meeting here.

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Speaker 1: Brian Gouda Kuntz was very confident when he spoke to

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Speaker 1: the media and look, I'm not above admitting mistakes here.

580
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Speaker 1: If some of these little tidbits slipped through yesterday, I

581
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Speaker 1: want to get them on the show today. So I

582
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Speaker 1: missed this, but he was very confident and essentially said

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Speaker 1: Rashaun Gary's going to be back on his team. And

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Speaker 1: he was a guy that I speculated could be cut

585
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Speaker 1: because they could really open up a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: So Rashaun Gary back with the Packers. Taylor Decker of

587
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: the Lions, who openly considered retirement, I thought he was

588
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: leaning that way.

589
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Speaker 2: He is going to be coming back.

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Speaker 1: He announced that on Instagram, and so that solves their

591
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Speaker 1: left tackle problem for now and they might invest in

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Speaker 1: that position for the future.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: It's a long way from now to training camp and

595
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Speaker 4: then going through training camp. I have covered teams where

596
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: and been a training camp like the day at different

597
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 4: camps that the day of the players like, I don't

598
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Speaker 4: really actually want to do this. I'm not fit words

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Speaker 4: in anyone's mouth. But we'll see. There's a long way

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Speaker 4: from here till now.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's letting them know and they've been together so

602
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: long to count on him for this season. But you're right,

603
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: they do change sometimes. The Lions we mentioned are going

604
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: to play overseas. We got more overseas news. It's just

605
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: been coming out day by day. On Wednesday, there's gonna

606
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Speaker 1: be two Jags games this year in London and one

607
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: Commander's home games. So those are the three home teams

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Speaker 1: in London this year. And now the Jaguars that you know,

609
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Speaker 1: they played back to back games in London. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they were the home team in both. So they

611
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Speaker 1: because they're building that new stadium and they're reducing capacity,

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Speaker 1: they actually might play three games in London next year,

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Speaker 1: which is crazy while they're getting that new stadium up

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Speaker 1: and running. But they'll have two in London this year,

615
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Speaker 1: one at Tottenham and why am I forgetting the other

616
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: ones at Wembley? And the commander says one at hot Tottenham.

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Speaker 1: And now the Jaguars have a little fuel because they

618
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: misspelled Liam Cohen's name in the press release for this.

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Speaker 1: I mean co h e n is how they spelled it.

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Speaker 1: It is not that way. It is without the age.

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Speaker 1: I feel like if you have the H in there,

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Speaker 1: you're more likely to be Jewish. Either way you could be,

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Speaker 1: but Liam is not.

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Speaker 2: I checked.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what's gonna happen now, this is chipwatch

626
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: it starts now.

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Speaker 1: You can't even spell our Coach of the Year candidate's

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00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: name right in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: He has a point on this one.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break, let's come back, and

632
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: on the other side of the break, you are going

633
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: to hear from two playoff general managers. They each led

634
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: their teams to the playoffs last year. Neither one of

635
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: them ended the season how they wanted the Bills. You

636
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: obviously had that magical Jaguars game, but then it got ugly.

637
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: We'll hear from Brandon Bean right after the break, and

638
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: then after that we will hear from Omar Khan, the

639
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Speaker 1: GM of the Steelers. We will wrap up the show

640
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: on the other side of that. All right, we are

641
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: here with Brandon Bean, the general manager of the Buffalo Bills.

642
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Speaker 1: It feels like speed dating right now, so we don't

643
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Speaker 1: have you for too long, although I know you know

644
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: are our co.

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00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: Host here, Joran Rodrigue. Well from your days in Carolina,

646
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Speaker 2: A lot of days.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you just can't get rid of me like a

648
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: bad Barnacle. Here I am again, Hey, going on my

649
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: business card.

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Speaker 3: Good Barnacle. I love that. I love that.

651
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Speaker 1: I look at your off season. I just did a

652
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: top one oh one free agency list. I'm sure you

653
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: have you know yet to see it, but we got

654
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Speaker 1: a couple. We've got a lot of Buffalo Bills on it,

655
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Speaker 1: but especially your your offensive lineman near the top. Conmra

656
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Speaker 1: govern David Everards, and I am wondering you've had such

657
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: great continuity at that position and you have a change,

658
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Speaker 1: uh in terms of your offensive line coach, kind of

659
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: how does that affect your maybe ability to keep those

660
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Speaker 1: two guys and thinking about all the teams that are

661
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Speaker 1: here this week that are probably excited to see some

662
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Speaker 1: really experienced, quality veterans maybe become available.

663
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's the part of the business.

664
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Speaker 10: You don't love Greg, it's it's you want to keep

665
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 10: them all and those guys, I was telling our radio guys,

666
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 10: you know a little bit ago it We got both

667
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 10: of those players in free agency three years ago in

668
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 10: kind of different you know, we signed Connor as a

669
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 10: guard and on we may move them to center when

670
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 10: Mitch Morse when it was time to part ways with him,

671
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 10: and Dave was actually became overs as a late signing

672
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 10: as a kind of a sixth o lineman, and we

673
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 10: kind of had our mind with his agent like, hey,

674
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 10: in a year, I think a spot will open.

675
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Speaker 9: Just just hang tight.

676
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 10: And so those two guys the last couple of years,

677
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 10: as Connor at center and him to guard, have done

678
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 10: an excellent job for us and on and off the field,

679
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 10: and you know, the business is the business. They've earned

680
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 10: the right to go to free agency and see what

681
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 10: their market is. You hate to lose guys like that,

682
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 10: and we're not giving up, but we also know we

683
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 10: have a cap and when you pay Josh Allen, once

684
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 10: you pay him, it sometimes can limit you know how

685
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 10: many guys.

686
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 9: You can retain.

687
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm curious about that too, because you have a

688
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: new head coach, another maybe short term Carolina guy, but

689
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: you you know you yourself being former Carolina guy. It's

690
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: like I think when people think about bringing in an

691
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: offensive minded head coach, there's like a total shift in

692
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 4: thought process and everything. But I think people have to remember,

693
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 4: like you've been building it holistically the entire time. When

694
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: you think about like what Joe Brady wants to do

695
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: and where he wants to sort of make an impact

696
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: early and maybe lift the floor of what this offense

697
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: can be, especially with Josh in his prime years, do

698
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: you think about or like revisit some of your your

699
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: team building strategy. Do you think about, Okay, this is

700
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: we've been investing here for so long, and now maybe

701
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: we want to invest in different spots or do you

702
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: sort of have a like five year plan all the

703
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: time that you sort of stick to it, and here too, well.

704
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Speaker 10: You're trying to five is hard because contracts and you know,

705
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 10: injuries can happen, and it's hard to keep continuity. Mean,

706
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 10: we've we have basically top seven or eight zero linemen

707
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 10: for two straight years, which is which is hard to do,

708
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 10: and we were fortunate that it worked out.

709
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Speaker 9: But you know, the more things changed, more of the

710
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 9: state of the same.

711
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 10: I guess I think the way I look at it

712
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 10: is the game is always up front, and I believe

713
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Speaker 10: after you have a quarterback, you got to be stout

714
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 10: both sides. That part doesn't change, but the game does evolve.

715
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 10: I mean, if you remember some of the earlier iterations

716
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 10: of our Buffalo Bills teams, we were in ten personnel

717
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 10: and eleven you know, we had digs Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley,

718
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 10: John Brown, Gabe Davis. Like we were throwing it up

719
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 10: and down the field. But there were also some games

720
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 10: where the weather we were in Buffalo where the weather

721
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 10: matter and we need to be able to establish that

722
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 10: line of scrimmage and so we need to run the

723
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 10: ball more and not try to throw at forty forty

724
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Speaker 10: five times and we you know, we went and found

725
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 10: a James Cook and made sure, you know, some of

726
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 10: these moves at the O line, you know, panned out.

727
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 10: And when you have that, you try to be as

728
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 10: two dimensional as possible. You don't want to be one dimensional.

729
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 10: But you saw this year, go back to the NFC

730
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 10: Championship game, Rams and Seahawks, a lot of I was

731
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 10: just talking about ten to eleven. That was a lot

732
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 10: of thirteen personnel, and we did more of that this

733
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 10: year as well. So you're always as what happened is

734
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 10: is it was more spread. People found these more athletic

735
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 10: defensive players to match up. And so now you're like,

736
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 10: all right, if they're gonna go light and that, we're

737
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 10: gonna try and pound them a little bit. We're gonna

738
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Speaker 10: put a fullback in the game, We're gonna put you know,

739
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 10: three tight ends. And so as defenses start to get big,

740
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 10: guess what we'll start to do. We'll start to spread

741
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 10: them out a little bit. So you're just constantly trying

742
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 10: to stay ahead of the curve.

743
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you just resigned one of our favorites on

744
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: the show, Alec Anderson, who can to help bring in

745
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: that sixth offensive lineman trying.

746
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: I know, you gotta get going.

747
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: But a big change on the defensive side too, obviously

748
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: with John McDermott moving on and maybe a little bit

749
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: of a different system. Are you just looking for different

750
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: types of players there on defensive offseason?

751
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think at the end of the day,

752
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 9: we're looking for good players.

753
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 10: And you know, Jim Leonard came in and one of

754
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 10: the attractive things that Jim was talking about, you know, defense,

755
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 10: that's that's multiple and looks and uh five down front

756
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 10: and three four, but there will still be some four

757
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 10: to three looks like just trying to basically trying to

758
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 10: mess with that quarterback. And and as Joe Brady even said,

759
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 10: mess with the coordinator. He goes, I know what looks

760
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 10: as the coordinator gives give me a little bit of like,

761
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 10: oh man, I got to get him out of this

762
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 10: play type of thing. So I think ultimately it's making

763
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 10: sure that we have good football players. And Jim came

764
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 10: in and talked to all I had our scouts in

765
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 10: a couple of weeks ago, you know, for about ten

766
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 10: days going through a lot of these draft prospects, and

767
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 10: so I said, Jim, just come in and let's talk

768
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 10: about you know what, what does an ideal Sam Becker

769
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 10: look in your in your system? What does what does

770
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 10: the ideal nickelback like? What is your your nose tackle?

771
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 10: What does your front look like? And we talked about those,

772
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 10: but he at the end of he really comforted all

773
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 10: the personnel guys by saying, guys, it's my job and

774
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 10: our and our coaches job to you give us good players.

775
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 10: You know, we're not going to square peg round hold

776
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 10: this thing. We'll get them on the field. And if

777
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 10: our best look is a four down three, we'll do

778
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 10: that too.

779
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Speaker 9: And so that's refreshing to hear.

780
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Speaker 1: So it been a lot of continuity in Buffalo since

781
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: this man came aboard. General manager Brandon being appreciate your time.

782
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks, guys.

783
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: Really excited to be joined for the first time by

784
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: Omar Khan, the general manager of the Pittsburgh Steelers, a

785
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: man who I know is cooler than most gyms because

786
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: he's from GM from New Orleans and uh a graduate

787
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: of Tulane University like myself. You left right before I

788
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: got there, and the good days started with Sean King.

789
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 8: Oh nice one, were you there?

790
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Speaker 2: I was there ninety seven to one.

791
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Speaker 8: Oh wow.

792
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, let me just tell you the school

793
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: spirit from this one. I love it.

794
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 8: I love it.

795
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: It is exciting to see the green wave, you know, rising.

796
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 11: And how about what they've done with that program the

797
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 11: last few years. It's been it's been a tremendous, absolutely tremendous.

798
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Speaker 1: It has been amazing to see a little disarming. I

799
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: did a little announcing actually when they went undefeated back

800
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: in the day.

801
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: So I wish we had the.

802
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 8: Play back in nineteen ninety eight.

803
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: I think Seaun King could have gone far. So that, yeah,

804
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: he gave us some great quarterback play. How about that

805
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: for a transition. You know, I watched a little bit

806
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: of you at the podium and I saw you talk

807
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: about Will Howard that you guys, you know you're looking

808
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: for your forever franchise quarterback, and said he could be

809
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: that guy. But with having him there prevent you from

810
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: maybe looking hard and maybe draft at a quarterback in

811
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Speaker 1: this draft.

812
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 11: You know, it's it's it's early to tell, you know,

813
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 11: right now Will's getting into our coaches.

814
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 8: Our coaches getting no Will. But we think very highly

815
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 8: of Will.

816
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 11: You know, we liked him coming out last year and

817
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 11: watched his progression last year. Unfortunately we didn't get see

818
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 11: him play, so it's sort of a red shirt year

819
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 11: for him.

820
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 8: But I really like where he's at, and you know,

821
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 8: what we know about him.

822
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Speaker 4: It's kind of a weird thing in my head, so

823
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: stick with me here. But when I remember Will Howard

824
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: and him coming out and how much it meant for

825
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: him to be a Pittsburgh Steeler, then fast to Mike

826
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 4: McCarthy's press conference talking about how much it meant to

827
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: him to be a Pittsburgh Steeler.

828
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 3: They kind of.

829
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: Match to me, like they feel like similar, very similar vibes,

830
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 4: very similar people, and the passion is very clear about

831
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 4: where they are.

832
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 11: Oh absolutely, you know, we we when we go through

833
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 11: the process with the scouts, I always talk to them

834
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 11: about identifying guys that are Pittsburgh Steeler, people that are

835
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 11: Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, and what does that mean? I mean,

836
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 11: it's it's it's just hard to say, hey, these are

837
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 11: the twenty characteristics of being a Pittsburgh Steeler.

838
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 8: But when you're around it, you just know.

839
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 11: And I can tell you we feel that way about

840
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 11: Will Howard and Mike McCarthy. Certainly, Mike McCarthy and it's uh,

841
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 11: you know, it's interesting with Mike. It just how much

842
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 11: he loves Pittsburgh. Like it's it's I mean, we all

843
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 11: love Pittsburgh. He loves Pittsburgh. I mean there is just

844
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 11: when you bring up Pittsburgh, there's just the conversations are there.

845
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 8: They're pretty cool.

846
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: You said also that you spoke with Aaron Rodgers a

847
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: week ago. You know the fact that you guys are

848
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: so open to bringing him back, that tells me you

849
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: thought there was like a baseline of performance from him

850
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: that you guys were were happy with or felt good about.

851
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 9: Last Yeah.

852
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 8: You know, I think we we we signed him last year.

853
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 11: You know, I think we all maybe expected it just

854
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 11: to be a one year thing, you know, but the

855
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 11: experience was awesome. I mean it really was. And Aaron

856
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 11: was great to have around. He was a great teammate.

857
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 11: You know, we had some great conversations. And I mentioned earlier,

858
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 11: like the one thing about Aaron people don't talk enough

859
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 11: about is.

860
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 8: How tough he is.

861
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 11: Like he is a tough football player, and he's a

862
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 11: great leader, you know, and you don't know where this

863
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 11: is gonna go with him, but you know, we've had

864
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 11: some good conversations and he knows how we feel.

865
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 12: And so we'll see you guys competed, especially down the

866
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 12: stretch of the season, like nobody there's no quit in

867
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 12: that team and the offense you could start to see

868
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 12: and flashes some of the vision.

869
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 4: And I kind of wonder, like, regardless of who the

870
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: quarterback is, and especially with Mike coming in and knowing

871
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: the way that he aligns just on that side of

872
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 4: the ball, how do you raise the floor of what

873
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 4: this offense can be, especially knowing how healthy your cap

874
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 4: situation is right now and also how much you have

875
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 4: invested currently on the defensive side.

876
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's a good question.

877
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 11: So, Uh, the exciting part is, you know, Mike, Mike's

878
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 11: got an offensive background and just listening to some of

879
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 11: the stuff they want to do, some of the things

880
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 11: they're gonna they're gonna do offensively, and that's this design

881
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 11: helped the quarterback position.

882
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 8: Uh. That that's that's that's really exciting to see.

883
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 11: Now from my standpoint, obviously, you know we didn't we

884
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 11: didn't win a football we didn't win a playoff game

885
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 11: last year.

886
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 8: That that's not good enough. We have to be better.

887
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 11: And some of that is you know, we have to

888
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 11: evaluate room by room, position by position, who's on the roster,

889
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 11: and you know, it's my job to get better players

890
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 11: that are going to help us and uh more players

891
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 11: that are going to help us.

892
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 8: And that's where we're at. It starts right here.

893
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Do you take kind of the obviously you take a

894
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: big picture of you as a GM, but just like

895
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: looking at literally just how the money was allotted last year,

896
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: was you know, the most expensive defense in the league.

897
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: If you look this year at least right now, the

898
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: defense and the offense in terms of the difference in

899
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: the money spent, is is even a little more? Is

900
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: that something you want to like think about big picture

901
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: to correct and make it more even Yeah, I.

902
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 11: Would necessarily say it beeds correct. Some of that is

903
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 11: a function of where the roster was. You know, we

904
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 11: we you know, I don't think we go into the saying,

905
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 11: hey we're gonna spend x percentage on defense.

906
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 8: It's it's just a function.

907
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 11: Of where players are, where players to develop, and who

908
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 11: you're extending.

909
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 8: You know, who comes available. So it's it's really just

910
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 8: a fluid process.

911
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 11: But I can tell you it's not someone where we say, hey,

912
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 11: we're going to spend x percent of our money on

913
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 11: defense versus.

914
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: Receiver a position you know you just have three like

915
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: on the roster right now that you think free agency

916
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: would would be something you look for there.

917
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 11: Well, certainly, you know, you go into the season with

918
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 11: five or six some some teams go with more, and

919
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 11: so obviously not just the receiver position, but other positions

920
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 11: we're gonna be looking at to improve.

921
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 4: Well, it's a fun week, combine week. I know you're very,

922
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: very accustomed to it. I now we appreciate it because

923
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: we you know, I know you've liked to be behind the.

924
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: Scenes and all of that.

925
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 4: We appreciate you kind of showing your voice, showing your face,

926
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: your personality a little bit more. Omar Khan, the GM

927
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh Steelers, thanks for being on with us.

928
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 8: Have me appreciate it.

929
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 9: Thanks?

930
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, here's a test, Jordan, we tape that on Tuesday.

931
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: What do you remember most from those two interviews.

932
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 4: Yes, the thing that stuck out to me the most

933
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: about Omar Khan was him truly buying into this concept

934
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 4: or this theory that Mike McCarthy and Will Howard are

935
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: extremely alike individuals and are very expressive in UH and

936
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 4: open and how much they are similar, and the fact

937
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: that Omar was gushing about Will Howard, whether it was

938
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: on the podium or saying positive things with us as well,

939
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: and notably also said really wants to make sure that

940
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: the floor of this offense is lifted beyond what it

941
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: was obviously last year with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. That's

942
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 4: us saying that he didn't overtly come out and say that,

943
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: but he did agree that the floor needs to be lifted.

944
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: And then on Brandon Bean, they've been saying it for

945
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: a couple of years and now they might actually do

946
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: it with Joe Brady. As head coaches, load up and

947
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: get heavy personnel, make your tight ends at a lot

948
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 4: bigger part of what you do in heavier personnels versus

949
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 4: staying small. And then I think that also gets Brandon

950
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 4: Bean sort of sliding sideways out of the receiver conversation.

951
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: So it's a win win if you're branded Bean.

952
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: And yet they will be signing receiver at least a

953
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: receiver because they need some. I do think it was

954
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: interesting to think about, though the sea change on defense.

955
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard is going to be their defensive coordinator and

956
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: they're just going to be looking for entirely different types

957
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: of players, so they were one of the teams. I'm

958
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: really curious how they're gonna attack this offseason. And I

959
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: did want to, you know, while we're talking, Bills mentioned

960
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: Joe Brady had his first podium session here at you know,

961
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: the Combine, and I did find this one quote telling

962
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: of what his tenure is going to be.

963
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: Like, this is your one, it's not your ten right,

964
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 5: And I think that that's Look, there's been a foundation

965
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 5: that's been set here and it might be a little

966
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 5: different in a sense of we understand what expectations and

967
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 5: everything that comes with it, right, but this isn't just Hey,

968
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 5: you know, Joe Brady's in and everything's just as business

969
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 5: as usual, right, And so it's important that everybody in

970
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 5: the organization knows it because if we continue to speak

971
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: about how things used to be, then we'll never continue

972
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 5: to go forward. And so I have so much respect

973
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 5: for the for the past, but it's your one in

974
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 5: organization right now.

975
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I like how they are really positioning, like, hey, we

976
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: know Brandon beans here, we know Josh Allen's here. It

977
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: all kind of looks the same, but like, no, this

978
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: is the Joe Brady era. It's going to be a

979
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: little more coach run maybe than the last one, and

980
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: more importantly, like we are starting over and it's going

981
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: to be completely different. I've I've been impressed with what

982
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: I I've heard from Joe Brady.

983
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've covered Joe Brady for a long time,

984
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 4: starting back when he's a GA at Penn State.

985
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: Right, So I got to get him on the show.

986
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: I know, I would love to have him on the show.

987
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 4: It would be great to have him because the way

988
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: he thinks about football is really cool, and he's he's

989
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 4: kind of in that cross section between he came up

990
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: and like a real old school but yet so progressive

991
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: for its time, coaching trees under Payton for a while

992
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: and then sort of started molding his own things. Was

993
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 4: the fall guy in Carolina as well at one point.

994
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 4: And you know, it's interesting, but he does think about

995
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: the organization and the infrastructure of an organization in a

996
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: similar way to a lot of these like young offensive

997
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: coaches that are trending and all of these things. So

998
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to be really interested to see how this

999
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: works out, kind of blending the traditionalist with the new

1000
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: that's I think the line that he wants to walk,

1001
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear him talk about it on the show.

1002
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: Brady is part of the Sean Payton tree, and you

1003
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: said the tree is obviously the Shanahan McVay tree, but

1004
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: this Sean Payton tree's kind of sneaking up here. Yeah,

1005
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Ben Johnson, Joe Brady, Declan Doyle. I think

1006
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: you can throw in there because he was an assistant

1007
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: back way back.

1008
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: I think for well and a Ben Johnson disciple too.

1009
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: It's happening. Yeah, that John Payton Tree. Let's get Jordan

1010
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: out of here. I'm getting out of here too. I

1011
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: am going to catch a flight in just a couple hours.

1012
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: But we are not done for the week. We have

1013
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: boots on the ground here in Indianapolis through the weekend.

1014
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: His name is Nick Shook. They're gigantic boots, also gigantic

1015
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: arms and triceps and just everything.

1016
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 4: He's also going to be participating in the combine bench

1017
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: press drills.

1018
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: Now he will not be doing that, but he will

1019
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: be in the stadium. He gets access that not a

1020
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: lot of the reporters get to have access. So we're

1021
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: going to be tapping into that and getting his recap

1022
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: of the combine winners and the losers. We also have

1023
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: a few more interviews coming up on the show where

1024
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: we have a big panther corner Dan Morgan and their

1025
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: head coach Dave Canalis.

1026
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: And also the absolute best line from Greg Rosenthal that

1027
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 4: nobody noticed in real time.

1028
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna have to find out what that is.

1029
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: That's coming up on Thursday show, which also, yeah, have

1030
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: our first you know, results from the combine and we're

1031
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: excited to start really diving into these prospects. Until then,

1032
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: let's get to Jordan to our media on time. I

1033
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: gotta go catch up.

1034
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: We'll see you