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Speaker 1: All right, We bring in Nick, right, and there's the

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Speaker 1: first thing. We got to get right right to the

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Speaker 1: important stuff. So Nick apparently show them Nick what you

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Speaker 1: have in your hand? He broke his hand.

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Speaker 3: I got a broken arm. I had a broken arm,

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Speaker 3: is what I have.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't notice this on our weekly TV appearance,

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Speaker 1: mostly because your arm isn't in the shot.

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Speaker 3: Mostly, Oh, my arm isn't the shot though. I'm waving

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Speaker 3: a sharpie all around. I'm pointing things out, but you're

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Speaker 3: so locked in so you didn't notice. So you're just

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Speaker 3: now realizing that, yeah, I would have a broken arm.

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Speaker 2: What'd you do?

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Speaker 3: Well, Colin? You know, I mean, this is I wasn't

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Speaker 3: going to bring this to the audience, but it's fine.

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Speaker 3: You know the you know the company I keep, the

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Speaker 3: circles I run in and when I send you a

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Speaker 3: you know, a panic text message and you wire me

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Speaker 3: thirty five thousand dollars and you leave it on red

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Speaker 3: or unopen like this is what happens, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? People were no nothing that cool or all

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Speaker 3: I felt I had gotten I got.

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Speaker 2: I was people at forty don't fall? What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, if you get knocked, if you're going down the

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Speaker 3: stairs holding a phone reading Twitter, Oh, and get get

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Speaker 3: sonime's your fall. And then and then don't want to

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Speaker 3: drop the phone and think you're going to fall gracefully,

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Speaker 3: and instead you don't. You break your arm, which is like,

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Speaker 3: can I tell you either that or I owed somebody

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Speaker 2: I have a fall story.

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Speaker 1: So I've had two really bad falls in my life,

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Speaker 1: I landed and I tried to save my coffee as

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Speaker 1: I'm falling forgetting that I'm old at the time, you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Was forty five.

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Speaker 1: I fell so hard one it eventually two days later

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Speaker 3: So you don't want to know what's funny. So because

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Speaker 3: guy like I'm gonna slow but steady. Yes, and so yeah,

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Speaker 3: So that's so, that's what it is I have. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So that's that's the embarrassing story there. But that's I'm

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Speaker 3: glad to talk to you. I also have a slight.

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Speaker 2: Beef with you, if he go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you and I, when you and I started

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Speaker 3: I've been off lately, and I apologize for missing last week.

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Speaker 3: One of the conceits of it was that we would

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Speaker 3: have a few drinks together and it'd be like a

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Speaker 3: And to your volume audience, it's like man Nick showing

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Speaker 3: up with a broken arm. He's drinking on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Like is he okay? Like it's there, doesn't look like

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Speaker 3: he's cut his hair in two years. Colin's just drinking seltzer.

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Speaker 3: He's out here drinking bottles of wine. So there, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So what I do?

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Speaker 1: You know? The second wife reality is when when when

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Speaker 3: You know, good for you. No, I I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Now we can go. So I was it was brought

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Speaker 1: And we were talking about I said, you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: I think the European structure is better than the AAU.

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Speaker 1: That's what's creating this imbalance in European stars and domestic stars.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing against our kids. AAU is about getting yours, playing.

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Speaker 1: European, their academies are playing against older, physical players and

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Speaker 1: Tatum and he's just not interested in that. Part of

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Speaker 1: Lebron was was magic, was Bird wasn't Doctor James Boby.

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Speaker 3: Was obsessed with you. Yes, Goby was obsessed with.

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Speaker 3: though he's in Minnesota, Colin he's so electrifying. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: the word again, electrifying as an athlete and as a player.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure you saw hustle. He's charismatic, he's a

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Speaker 3: But the other thing you pointed out, because I've always

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Speaker 3: the AAU circuit, because you've made a very clear, uh,

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Speaker 3: You've been very intentional about saying I'm not blaming the kids,

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Speaker 3: blaming the players, because a lot of the critiques of

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Speaker 3: me in the past slightly racist. It's always felt like

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Speaker 3: I so, but they're obviously, we now have almost proof

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Speaker 3: So why is that? I think a lot of it

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Speaker 3: the players would love it. I don't know. If here's

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Speaker 3: the only question I would have. Do you think one

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Speaker 3: of the reasons the NFL is so popular and the

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Speaker 3: NFL is so great is every game feels very important.

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Speaker 3: At some point that flips to eh, it's okay, do

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Speaker 3: you like at what number would you say they are

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Speaker 3: risking you know what I mean. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: say ruining a good thing, but hutting off some of

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Speaker 3: their own urgency.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've thought about that.

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Speaker 1: And baseball so laughably long and the NBA similarly in hockey,

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Speaker 1: are that the scarcity still exists even with eighteen games.

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Speaker 1: I mean baseball, literally, there's nothing that makes sense about

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games, twenty spring training games

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Speaker 1: of potentially eighteen to twenty postseason games. A team could

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Speaker 1: play two hundred games if they won the World Series.

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Speaker 1: So it's so insane, so many innings, so many hours,

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Speaker 1: that I still think there's a scarcity that sort of

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Speaker 1: like eleven games if you won the NATTI, or now

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Speaker 1: it's like fourteen or fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Well now you see, right, like Joe Burrowsell's you team

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Speaker 3: so they are approaching where the NFL was like Joe Paterno,

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Speaker 3: why I could you know what I mean, I could

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Speaker 3: be and so that has happened at a very rapid pace.

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Speaker 3: I have one other kind of big picture NFL urgency thought,

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Speaker 3: which is I don't know if you remember me ever

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Speaker 3: saying this, but I I'm a big believer that one

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Speaker 3: of the best things to happen to the NBA was

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Speaker 3: Lebron's Heat team losing that first year, because it made

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Speaker 3: every other year of that era feels so much more important.

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Speaker 3: Year two, Holy shit, if they lose here, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: break it up. Year three, are right, they won, but

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Speaker 3: we've seen them lose, you know what I mean? Can

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Speaker 3: they do it? If they don't do it, then it's

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Speaker 3: not really that impressive. Anyway, they win it year four,

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Speaker 3: all right, now they're going for a three beat check

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Speaker 3: Kobe Michael. Whatever they lose, I think the worst thing

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Speaker 3: to happen, not the worst thing, but I think it

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Speaker 3: was bad for the NBA that Durant and Staph one

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Speaker 3: year one. Had they lost Year one, I bet Durant

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Speaker 3: never would have left. But because they won, everyone's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we fucking knew you would win. That was too easy.

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Speaker 3: So I think sometimes like adversity can be good for

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Speaker 3: long term success of storylines. Whatever. Here's why I bring

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Speaker 3: all that up sneakily. I think while it was exhilarating

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Speaker 3: to watch and great for the legend of the player

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Speaker 3: and the coach for NFL conversation next season, I think

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl was a sneaky bad thing. Yes,

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Speaker 3: because now there is every NFL conversation is going to

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Speaker 3: almost either implicitly or explicitly include like nobody is going

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Speaker 3: to feel, I think, feel almost allowed to doubt the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: Like you know, if the Chiefs start four and four,

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Speaker 3: is anyone gonna feel comfortably and like, well, now they're cooked,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like now there And so

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Speaker 3: there is a level of because they looked so bad,

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Speaker 3: it was statistically record wise, all these things their worst year,

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Speaker 3: and then they won anyway, and it's not like, well

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Speaker 3: the bracket broke for him. It's like, no, they had

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Speaker 3: to be Buffalo, Baltimore, San Francisco. How is it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a tough sell on any of.

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Speaker 2: Those the volume.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to part one of the conversations with Nick.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget the check back for part two.