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Speaker 1: Never told your production of I Heart Radio. Samantha. Do

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Speaker 1: you get into the Olympics, It's according to what's happening.

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Speaker 1: I get into the hype after I hear something good,

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. I used to watch a lot

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Speaker 1: What about you, I'm kind of the same where I

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Speaker 1: And I mean, they're professionals and usually it's fine and

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Speaker 1: for for that potentially, because this is going to be

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Speaker 1: an interesting Olympics. And yeah, as we release this, the

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Speaker 1: which is July, is the opening ceremony. So just starting

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Speaker 1: happy Olympics if that's something you're into. But yeah, disclaimer,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of issues to unravel with the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: and specifically these Olympics in this case of you know, classism, sexism, racism,

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Speaker 1: able is um this year. The pandemic still very much

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Speaker 1: not under control in Japan. Uh In fact, back when

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Speaker 1: but it's not really up to them. So yes, all

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Speaker 1: For this episode, though, we did want to look back

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Speaker 1: into some of the history of women in the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: and you can see an episode I did with Eves

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Speaker 1: are Very Lovely friend and co worker Eves on this

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Speaker 1: not too in depth, because honestly, each of them could

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Speaker 1: course they got paid nothing and still do so that

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Speaker 1: gloating about that because we want everybody to make it,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, why are we even having to fight

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Speaker 1: for this? It should be like, yes, the proof is here. Right. Also,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not good at determining how you'll score that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I know those are big things. Uh, difficulty levels and

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Speaker 1: how long you say up those. But of course we

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Speaker 1: of Simone Biles. Uh. And despite again the ridiculous scoring

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Speaker 1: system and how messed up it is, a Simone Biles

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's fine. They just can't keep up

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Speaker 1: with me. And that is a queen act. She has

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. I love the future athletes will be like,

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Speaker 1: some mom Biles. That's beautiful. And yes, as you kind

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Speaker 1: particularly black women athletes. Um, it's really unfortunate. We continue

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Speaker 1: to see these stories like it's frustrating that so many

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Speaker 1: history are still here right. Well, the fact that that

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Speaker 1: to also talked about New Zealand's Laurel Hubbard becoming the

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Speaker 1: first trance athlete to compete in Olympics. Excited to see that. Um,

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Speaker 1: of course we've still been seeing some disappointing transphobia, constant

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Speaker 1: disappointments constantly even from other Olympic athletes, which is not

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Speaker 1: surprising and still disappointing. Yes, yes, yes, yes, so those

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Speaker 1: some ups and downs real roller coaster here, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was It's kind of like the Olympics is it

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Speaker 1: has been, especially when it comes to women trying to

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Speaker 1: compete in all these intersections of UM find it of

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Speaker 1: like racist and ablest and transphobic and homophobic things and

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Speaker 1: trying to make spaces for everyone to compete. But yes,

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Speaker 1: that is what we have to say about the Olympics.

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