1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Tuesdays and the should a Big Blue kick 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: off live here on giants dot Com. Here's Paul the 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Tina I'm Lance Medal with you in the next sixty 4 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: minutes two zero five one three hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: It is all presented by Corps Light, So glad you 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: could join us. We're gonna get into the first preseason 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: game given the Giants just took part in their final 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: practice before they're gonna get set to kick off the 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: preseason on Thursday against the Jets. Will also get into 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: the unofficial depth chart that was released earlier today by 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: the Giants and get you caught up with all that 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: was said in the media session. So first, let's start 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: with the media session. Paul, and we just heard Pat 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Shermer talk with reporters and no surprise, he was peppered 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: with questions about who's gonna play who's not gonna play 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: in the first preseason game. First of all, it's important 17 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: to note they're playing the Jets in the first preseason 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: game this year. Normally they play in the third preseason game. 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: But the reason why they're doing it in the first 20 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: game is because the Giants are actually playing the Jets 21 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: in a meaningful regular season game this year, and Pat 22 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Shermer was part of the discussion and to say, hey, 23 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: since the third game is usually the dress rehearsal game, 24 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: and you tend to play your starters, maybe you show 25 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more than the other games. They don't 26 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: want to do that for either team, So that's why 27 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: they're having it in the first preseason game. That's first thing. 28 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: And by the way, that's the first we have heard 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: of that. Up until this point, nobody has offered any 30 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: kind of explanation as to why it was. It was 31 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: just that's the way the schedule is. But for the 32 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: first time, we have now learned that there was a 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: preference expressed by both teams because of the competition factor. 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: So that's new because we've been asked about this before 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: over the last couple of months, and we've told people 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: it just seemed to work out that way because that's 37 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: what we were told. Yeah, that was what the chatter 38 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: was since the preseason schedule has released, Paul, was the 39 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: fact that they don't want to have the third preseason 40 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: game against the team in which they go. There was 41 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: no chatter about I had heard. I did hear some chatter. 42 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying but there was no here, but I 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: did hear some conversations that that was the rationalet least 44 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: maybe it was in the studios that serious. Well, this 45 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: was the first time that I think somebody went on 46 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: the record to your point. Yeah, absolutely, but there was 47 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: at least some conversation, some chatter, whether it was speculation, 48 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: whether it was founded that that was perhaps the reason 49 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: behind the move. Anyway, Pat Shermer did confirm that, and 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: he also was asked about playing time. He did say, 51 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a number of healthy players that are 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: not going to take part in this game, which is 53 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: not necessarily a stunning development. Then they're going to clearly 54 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: rotate personnel. He didn't necessarily say who's gonna play first, 55 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: who's gonna play second, or how they're gonna handle the quarterbacks. 56 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: But when Daniel Jones spoke, he said, and you would 57 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: asked him this question, Paul, what is his priorities coming 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: out of this first preseason game, And you know he 59 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: said that clearly scoring points, executing, being able to move 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: the chains, pick up first downs, and really getting a 61 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: feel for what a non familiar defense throws his way. 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: Are I think three of the key priorities that he's 63 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: looking for in this first preseason game. Well, I think, 64 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: more importantly, to backtrack just a few seconds, Pat Shermer 65 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: did confirmed that Daniel Jones will play, and that's the 66 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: only player on his roster that he confirmed will play. 67 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: Didn't indicate how many or where in the game he will, 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: but he did confirm that Daniel Jones will play, and 69 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: he did indicate as we all know, the preseason snaps 70 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: are very important to his development. So suffice it to 71 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: say he's not going to play at least I think 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: you could assume in garbage time in the fourth quarter. 73 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: I would have to say that for the purposes of 74 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: his benefit, that is Jones's benefit, he will play some 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: meaningful snaps in the preseason if there is such a 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: thing against some of the first or second stringers. I 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: don't see there being a whole lot of benefit to 78 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: him playing mop up duty in the fourth quarter of 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: preseason games. I would think that to accelerate his development 80 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: and to enhance what he has brought to the table 81 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: so far, he would have to play earlier in the games. 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: And that's simply logical. Well, and I also think you 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: don't want to expose him, to let's face it, the 84 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: third or fourth string offensive lineman. To your point, Paul, correct, 85 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: I think that you certainly want to be able to say, hey, 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna put him behind the offensive linemen that are 87 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: competing for starting jobs, or offensive lineman that are going 88 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: to at least be in position for a backup role. Now, 89 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: it is important to note, and we're not giving out 90 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: any secrets because it was in the open media portion 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: of practice today. Eli Manning took first team snaps. Daniel 92 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: Jones took a bunch of second team snaps, just so 93 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: you know. So, as I said on yesterday's show, if 94 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones does take any reps with the first team, 95 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: those of you the first ones, he gets all summer. Correct. 96 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: Because Eli has been operating during practice with the first team. 97 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: There was even a press conference where they were asking 98 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: Pat Shermer's Daniel Jones eventually going to be working with 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: the first team at practice. I know that was one 100 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: of the press conference conversations last year. Eli Manning did 101 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: not play in game number one of the preseason, but 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the starters played about a dozen snaps 103 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: or so. So again it's it's really up in the air. 104 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: There's a huge question mark on all of this because 105 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: only coach Sherman really knows how he's going to play it. 106 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: But there are many many ways he could go with this. 107 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Bottom line is you'll have to tune and find out 108 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: absolutely and it's not necessarily a mystery because we really 109 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: have these conversations, let's face it, around this time of 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: the year about some are gonna play, some are not, 111 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: and it's basically at the prerogative of the coach whether 112 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: or not they want to expose certain players to these 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: circumstances or they want to hold them back. And Eli 114 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: Manning to your point, Paul has not necessarily played every 115 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: single preseason game since he's been with the Giants, so 116 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: it would not stun me if he did not play 117 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: in this game. I think they want to give Kyle A. Lennon, 118 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones of all the four quarterbacks, probably the bulk 119 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: of the reps because they're the youngest quarterbacks on the roster. 120 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: As far as some of the players that are dealing 121 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: with injuries. Sterling Shepherd did speak with the media and 122 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: he joking Lewis asked at the tann end, you know, 123 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: do you think you'll suit up, and Sterling said, well, 124 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: considering I'm wearing a yellow jersey during the course of practice, 125 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to said will not be playing 126 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: in this game. So he went on the record saying 127 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: that that wasn't Pat Sherbo. But you don't need to 128 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: be a rocket scientist to figure that one. There is 129 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: some news on Sterling's front, though he did say he 130 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: expects to have another X ray on his fractured left 131 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: thumb within the next couple of days. He said that 132 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: as it stands now, he's sure he will play Week 133 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: one against the Cowboys, and said, you know, there's a 134 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: possibility he doesn't play at all in the preseason because 135 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: if the trainers say you get the yellow jersey for 136 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: the next month, then he can't have contact and he 137 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: can't play. But that's irrelevant to him as far as 138 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: he's concerned. It's all about playing Week one in Dallas. Uh. 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: These next four weeks of preseason action are not really 140 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: on his mind very much, because he indicated that he's 141 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: out there with practice anyway, and his legs are good, 142 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: and he's still getting his timing down with Eli Manning, 143 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: and and he said quite Honestly, he's having some fun 144 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: trying to catch with one hand. Yeah, it's a challenge, 145 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: because he says, unlike Evan Ingram and Odell Beckham when 146 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: he was on the team previously, the guys who have 147 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: the big hands able to easily haul in the one 148 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: handed catch. He for it doesn't necessarily come as easy 149 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: to him, basically as what he was saying. I think 150 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: the other piece of news out of Shepherd's media briefing 151 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: is that he said the thumb, the left umb, doesn't 152 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: really hurt him except in certain instances, because he actually 153 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: has haught a few balls two handed out here at 154 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: training camp this week and said it depends on how 155 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: the ball hits as to whether or not he really 156 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: feels it. So his in his estimation, it's progressing. And 157 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: again there's very very very little doubt that he's going 158 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 1: to miss the Cowboys game. Well, Shepherd caught a pass 159 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: with two hands today in the back of the end 160 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: zone from Manning So and we were watching practice. By 161 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: the way, we were watching practice, and I even commented 162 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: to you right as he made the catch, I mean, 163 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: you look at what he's doing in practice right now. 164 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe that he won't be out there 165 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: for week one. But then again that's just me speculating 166 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: in my personal opinion. And think about how hard he 167 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: lie through that it was a rocket. It was I 168 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: mean a tight rope to the back of the end zone. 169 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: There was mustard on that one. But by you saying, hey, 170 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: he's taking part in practice, I think it's important to 171 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: note when you hear guys that are nursing injuries, Paul, 172 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: more often than not, they're spectators or they're riding the 173 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: bike right, they're on the side. Now, Sterling is very 174 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: much engaged in practice. You Basically, if he didn't wear 175 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: the yellow jersey, Paul, I would say, and you knew 176 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: nothing about the Giants and you came to you'd have 177 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: no idea that he was banged up or he was hurt. 178 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: So that to me is extremely encouraging, I would agree. 179 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: A couple of the quick notes, b J. Hill had 180 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: a little baby boy, and he arrived back here this morning. 181 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: He was working with the trainers on the side after practice. 182 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what time he got back to 183 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: the building, but he was on pro tonity leave if 184 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: you want to it that way, yes, well, and I hear, 185 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: I hear the baby is rather large. To no one's surprise. 186 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say he's ready to take a 187 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: few snaps at defensive Congratulations to b J and and 188 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: his significant others, so good for them, and uh, I 189 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: guess the The other item is that Alec Ogletree has 190 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: flop numbers with Jake Carlock. His fifty two goes to 191 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: Carlock and Carlock seven now goes to Ogletree. And if 192 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: you've been reading my Twitter at Giants w F A 193 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: N I have wondered aloud why Ogletree has yet to 194 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: change his Twitter handle which includes the number fifty two 195 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: in it. Well, this was, I'm sure something that happened 196 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: over the last few hours, so he probably hasn't prioritized 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: social media amongst some of the other things that are 198 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: on his plate right now, Paul. But I'm glad that 199 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: we're getting to the bottom of those hard pressing questions 200 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: here on Big Blue Kick on the dead hours of 201 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: training camp. So you can tell ya somebody's chopping at 202 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: the bit to get to the first preseason game. But 203 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: we're asking why his handle still has his old number. 204 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: But on that related note, Dan's Alimone did tweet out, 205 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: and I believe the Giants retweeted. Elgle Tree gave a 206 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: very very detailed explanation why he's making the move to seven. Uh, 207 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: there was a meeting behind the four, meaning behind the seven. 208 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: So if you have an opportunity to check out the 209 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: Giants Twitter handle, Dance Alimone's tweet is up there, you 210 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: can read why he chose to head in that direction. 211 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if there was any other parts of 212 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: the transaction, if it was just a clean number swap, 213 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to find out. I don't know if 214 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: there was maybe a sandwich from the cafeteria that was 215 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: involved or something else. We will bring that to you 216 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: as soon as we get to the bottom of that. 217 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: Paul is going to be working the phones after this show, 218 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I can assure you on that front two zero one 219 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: three hashtag Giants chat before we get to the phones. 220 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: One of the thing that I want to bring up 221 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: is the unofficial depth chart Paul that the Giants did 222 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: release earlier today. And I don't think that there's any surprises, 223 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: And keep in mind number one, this is unofficial number two. 224 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: The whole point of them releasing this depth chart now 225 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: is in anticipation of the first preseason game, and for 226 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: those of us who take part in broadcasting the game, 227 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: it's important for us to understand who exactly is one, 228 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: who is exactly two. That's the main rationale behind this. 229 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: The reason I say that is I don't really think 230 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: you should be reading too much into that, but it 231 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: is an informational point for the sake of our show 232 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: and things that perhaps jump off the page. John Hallapeo 233 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: is listened as the first center. Well, we knew that yesterday. 234 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Pat she were already indicated that Hallopeo has nudged ahead 235 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: and gets the first crack with the starters, so that's 236 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: no surprise. And even how Hunter basically said that when 237 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: he met with the media Paul last week. He said 238 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: that his goal is he wants to get Spencer Pully 239 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: at least two reps with the first team, but Hallapeo 240 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: is the guy that starts out, so that's not necessarily 241 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: a stunning develop Golden Tate and Sterling Shepherd ure the 242 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: starting wide receivers. Benny Fowler slash Russell Shepherd. Cody Lattimer 243 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: slash Russell Shepherd is listed as the two's in terms 244 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: of the wide receiver position, and that also should not 245 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: stunt anybody, but it just goes to show you the 246 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: veterans that contributed last year have the priority over some 247 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: of these young guys. And all of those guys you 248 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: could point to made plays at some point last season 249 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: when they were called upon because of the injuries to 250 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham clearly late in the season. Correct. And Golden Tate, 251 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: by the way, left a little while ago to go 252 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: to the NFL offices to deal with his pe D suspension, 253 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: which of course had to do with the fertility treatment 254 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: back in April, and the Giants are hoping and Golden 255 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Tate is hoping that the league will see fit to 256 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: make some adjustments to that. Right now, it is a 257 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: four game suspension that would cost him the first four 258 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: regular season games. It does not cost him preseason games, 259 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: It does not cost him practice time at training camp. 260 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: But it is over there now going through his appeal. 261 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: Other things that jump off the depth chart, Chad Wheeler 262 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: is listed is the backup left tackle and right tackle 263 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: as of right now. If you're looking at who perhaps 264 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: is in line at the tackle position, Brian Mahallak is 265 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: listed is third at both left tackle and right tackle 266 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: Wayne Goldman the number two back. Paul Perkins rod Smith 267 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: share the third spot. As far as the defensive side 268 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: of the ball, Karee Martin is listed as the strong 269 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: side starting linebacker. Marcus Golden is behind him. Tay Davis 270 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: one of the inside linebackers next to Alec Oldletree, b J. 271 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: Goodson and Ryan Connolly are the backups. And as far 272 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: as the corners, you've got DeAndre Baker listed is the 273 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: other starting corner next to Genores Jenkins. Grant Haley is 274 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: the slot guy because he's listed behind DeAndre Baker, and 275 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton's is backing up Genera's Jenkins. So that just 276 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: goes to show you, if you just want to read 277 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: into something slightly, Hamilton's value on special teams. Also, what 278 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: we've seen the repsis received in practice, you know, that's 279 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: not a name to overlook. Paul and I feel as 280 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: if everybody throws that Sam Beale and Balantine's made strides, 281 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: and this is not to discredit them, but Antonio Hamilton's, 282 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: who made a number of key plays on special teams 283 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: last season, is still also now very much in the mix, 284 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: not just to make this team as a special teams guy, 285 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: but also a cornerback. There are so many guys in 286 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: this secondary that you'd like to keep. I don't know 287 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: that you can keep more than ten, and even that's 288 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: a bit of a stretch. It's gonna be a very 289 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: tough decision, and I think a lot of it will 290 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: also depend on injuries and developments that occurred during the 291 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: course of the preseason. I mean, it's, uh, it's a problem. 292 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sugarcoat this. The Giants 293 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: are gonna have an issue trying to cut down to 294 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: this fifty three this year, which is a great problem 295 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: to have because they've not had that in a number 296 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: of years. Around here. There are legitimately too many young 297 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: players who at least show reasonable potential that you're gonna 298 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: want to save on the back of that fifty three, 299 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's gonna be tough, and you're 300 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: gonna probably have to expose some guys who you really 301 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: are gonna WinCE at and hope that you can get 302 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: them back on the practice squad. Tuesday, one five one three. 303 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: That is the telephone number hashtag Giants Chat. So glad 304 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: you could tune in for Tuesday's edition, A Big Blue 305 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live. All right, let's open up the phone lines 306 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: as we move forward, and we check in right now 307 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: with stand in the Pocono Stan Welcome the Big Blue 308 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live. What do you have for us? Hey, fellas, 309 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: it's Dan. Actually, okay, you can call me anything you want. 310 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Will make a substitution with the syllables. Apologies for that. 311 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: So what's happening? Then? There you go? Not much, I 312 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: got it, just a couple of comments, not too much 313 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: to add to your to your program. But and two 314 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: questions too quick. First, Lance, are you gonna be doing that? 315 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Remember you got you were doing um going to the 316 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: to that bar in Manhattan on away games next year. Yes, 317 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: we are going to be at a bar this year. 318 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: They have not finalized where the bar is located in 319 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: which bar it is as soon as we know, will 320 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: certainly let you know. But yes, for every road broadcast, 321 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: we will be broadcasting Jeff Eagels and I from a 322 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: local bar, either in the Manhattan or New Jersey area. 323 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: And you know, if there's a bar open land, will 324 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: I canna show you that, they'll have to they'll have 325 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: to lift me up out of the bar. That's how 326 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: passionate I am. A problem is he can't see over it. Well, 327 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: we that's why we have that's why we have the 328 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: stools that are high enough to Uh. Yes, Dan, I'm 329 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: so glad you brought up this subject. Thank you very much. 330 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: By the way, Sorry, no, no, no worries and stuff. Anyway, Um, 331 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you also how much I 332 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: appreciate the show every every day. You know, It's just me, 333 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: like so many guys, it really gets us through the day. 334 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a house painter and I'm just like 335 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: at twelve or one or whatever time it shows on, 336 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: it's just like breaks up today, and it's just something 337 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: that looks forward to you know, and we really they 338 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: appreciate all you guys do with us. Appreciate thanks for 339 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: sticking with us. We appreciate it. Go ahead, yeah, no problem. 340 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: You know so many guys that like me to feel 341 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: the same way. And that was a great show last 342 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: night with Bob Popper and David Deal doing the gianting giants, 343 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, Training Camp Live. It was an awesome show 344 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: last night. Thank you. That was a lot of fun. 345 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: You know. We we had Phil Simms on to talk 346 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: about the offense and the quarterbacks Brian Baldinger. By the way, 347 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: that that that part with Baldinger talking about the offensive 348 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: line will run on tonight's edition of the program. And 349 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: I thought there was a lot of good information in 350 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: last night's UH, last night's MSG telecast. Oh absolutely, it 351 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: was great here and here in sims and and Brian. 352 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: Definitely it was awesome show. I'll be tuning in again 353 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: tonight and UH. I just wanted to just real quick 354 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: and I'll get off UM at last. I don't know 355 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: if you heard, UH. It's definitely what the with the 356 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: predictions they were doing on Friday, your favorite caller, Charlie 357 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: for main, definitely gets the best BOLT prediction. I don't 358 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: know if you've already predicted the Giants and the and 359 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: UH and the Browns and the Super Bowl this year 360 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: something else. Leave it to Charlie to really go out 361 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: on a limb there. I can't say I'm surprised I 362 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: did not hear it. Unfortunately, I'm a very busy person 363 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: and I don't always get to go back and listen 364 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: to Charlie's phone calls. But I guess I'll have to 365 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: move around my priorities now. But thank you for catching 366 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: me up on that. Dan, greatly appreciate it, no problem, 367 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: I know you you just you know, hang on every 368 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: word coming out of the right. All right, Dan, we 369 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call. Yeah, yeah, no, the point then 370 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: we lost, by the way, appreciate the phone call. I'm 371 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: sorry to say. Yes, Charlie was not drinking Grandpa's cough medicine. 372 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: It was his own. Well yeah, you know he makes 373 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: it out in his backyard, don't you know, because he 374 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: needs it. It's like a direct change that goes right 375 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: into him because with all the material that he comes 376 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: up on a daily basis and has to come from somewhere. 377 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: So I'm glad that he was able to weigh in 378 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: on the bolt adictions front. Let's move along here on 379 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. Peter is in the Florida Keys 380 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: and he joins us here on Big Blue Kickoff Live. 381 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: What's happened to Peter? Hey? Guys? Thought you doing today? A? Hi? 382 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: You doing very well? What's on your mind? Excellent? Hey? 383 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: I wanted it to have the opportunity to present two 384 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: bold predictions, possibly to be added to that wall you have. 385 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: Let's see, John, did he put a list up, Paul, 386 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: do you know over there in the yellow the yellow 387 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: paper against the wall, the yellow paper. All right, so 388 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: there's there's another one there that I yesterday. That okay, 389 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: fair enough, all right, so I'm gonna do is. I'm 390 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna get my pen out and I will add Peter 391 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: to the list. All right, Peter, we are all ears. 392 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: What do you have for us? Alright? First ball prediction, 393 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Dextraliance will rush for a Russian touchdown in this season. 394 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: Interesting you say that because he had one at Clemson. 395 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: It was a two yard touchdown plunge in a blowout game. 396 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: And I get the impression that he wouldn't be shy 397 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: about asking for the ball, not at all. I'd love 398 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: to see that package. Huh. That's a lot of beef indeed. Alright. 399 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: Second prediction. You know two thousand twelve was the last 400 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: time the Giants had a Pro bowler on the offensive line. 401 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for this year, not one, but two 402 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Pro bowlers on offensive line. Do you have two in mind? 403 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Are you're just gonna say just two random guys. I'm 404 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: going with Zeigler, and I think Hernandez is gonna make 405 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: it this year. Wow, all right, keep in mind, there 406 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: is a lot of competition at the guard position, specifically 407 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: in the NFC, so if that happens, that means very 408 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: very good things for the New York Giants this season. 409 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: It is al that's for sure. Well you are on 410 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: the list, Peter, congratulations, I am putting you on the wall. 411 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: You know, Hernandez was an All NFL Rookie selection last 412 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: year at left guard, so he's already guarded some accolades 413 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be surprising if he had a spectacular 414 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: season that he does get you know, some some Pro 415 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: Bowl votes. The thing that bothers me about Zeitler is 416 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: that for as many plaudits as he gets around the 417 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: league and everybody universally talks about what an absolute dynamic 418 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: and physical force he is at the guard spot. In fact, 419 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: we've heard many times the analytics people say he's the 420 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: best pass blocking right guard in the NFL. Eight years 421 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: in the league, he's never gone to a Pro Bowl 422 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: and he was a first round pick with the Bengals. 423 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: I still don't understand why he hasn't gone before. Well, 424 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: you would figure with the injuries that maybe he would 425 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: have gotten at least a fill in opportunity as a replacement. 426 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean, forget starting. He's certainly a Pro Bowl level 427 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: level player, absolutely, and he's played with a number of 428 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: different right tackles. By the way, if you go back 429 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: to at the beginning of his career at Cincinnati through Cleveland, 430 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: went five straight seasons playing next with for right tackle. 431 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: And there's nothing new for him. As Baldinger told me 432 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: in our interview, what he was with the Bengals, that 433 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: was one of the best offensive lines in football at 434 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: that time. So people should have thrown him bouquets of flowers. 435 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: He should have gotten a trip, you know, to go 436 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. But no, here he is in 437 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: his eighth season, has never gone. So I don't know 438 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: what he has to do to get in unless maybe 439 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: busting some holes for Barkley. He will do the trick. Well, 440 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: it certainly will make you look good, There's no doubt 441 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: about that. All right, let's continue to move along here 442 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: on Big Lolo Kickoff Live' got Brandon in New York. Brandon, 443 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: welcome to board. What do you got for us? Hey? 444 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: You guys? All right, I'm just starting to ask a 445 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: quick question and then quick little rapid fire on bold predictions. Um, 446 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: just quick question for Michael Crabtree. Do you guys honestly 447 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: think that you know, we would be better off with 448 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: the guys that we have on our roster right now, 449 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: just trying to build them up and get them going, 450 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: rather than reaching out to Michael Crabtree or what do 451 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: you guys think would be a good price to bring 452 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: him in. I heard something about the My coworker was 453 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: telling me something about the fact that he worked out 454 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals the other day and he lowballed him 455 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: something like that. Well he did. The initial report was 456 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: that he actually was going to sign a deal with 457 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. That's what I saw late last night, and 458 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: then early this morning I woke up to news that 459 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: they actually didn't get the deal done. So Crabtree is 460 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: still a free agent. His name has been thrown out 461 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: when we were discussing some potential opportunities for guys to 462 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: come in when Golden Tate, not when Golden Tate, excuse me, 463 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: when Sterling Shepard got hurt. And you know, my feeling is, 464 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: I think they have veterans in house that they believe 465 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: are reliable, and I think they want to continue to 466 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: develop the young guys Plus, they just brought in t J. Jones, 467 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: who is a veteran, so you know. T J. Jones 468 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: to me, fits the bill of a Michael Crabtree, a 469 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: guy that has experienced, and a guy that has been 470 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: in camp for at least a week. So I think 471 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna move forward with the group they have. I'd 472 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: be very surprised if they make another splash with a 473 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: veteran free agent, unless unfortunately some he goes down to 474 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: the preseason game or practice of court nine. That definitely 475 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: would be extremely unfortunate. But okay, so that sounds that 476 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: sounds great, And I just wanted to know if I 477 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: can give you guys quick rapid fire on defense offensive 478 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: bold predictions that you don't have to write them down 479 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: that if it's what alright, So for offense, I'm gonna 480 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: say it's funny because the caller, I think the two 481 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: ahead of me, said that Dexter Lawrence was rushing for 482 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: one touchdown. I have them right here rushing for two. Okay, 483 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: we're doubling up on the previous caller. I got Evan 484 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: Ingram playing fourteen games this year, missing one game on 485 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: each half of the season, as say Kwan going for 486 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: over a thousand yards rushing, anatar thousand yards receiving. I 487 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: think Court, I think Valentine is going to lead the 488 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: team and interceptions with six. I think the X Man 489 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: is going to lead the team in shacks with ten. 490 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: And I think the Giants are going to go nine 491 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: and six and make the playoffs. Yeah, sorry, sorry sorry, 492 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: nine and seven yes, okay, sikes at first, but reevaluate 493 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: it and make the playoffs. And that's what I got 494 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: for you, guys. I hope you guys have a great 495 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: day and I'll continue listening off there. Appreciate the phone call. 496 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: That's why it's six. Would not only be bold, it 497 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: would be impossible. Well that's why that's like it would 498 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: be unless he says nine, six and one, that would 499 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: be possible. It would be the the Dexter lawrence. Two 500 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: touchdowns is kind of intriguing because if you think about it, 501 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: if you're down there on the goal line, it's the 502 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: only time he's gonna get it. I mean, you're not 503 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: gonna have him in if they're out at the five. Okay, 504 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: if he's going to be in the game to run 505 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: a short yardage plunge, they'll be at the one. I 506 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: don't think even at the two, they might not want 507 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: to give it to them. But if they're at the one, 508 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: But then by doing that, you're not giving the ball 509 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: to Markley, you know, and the second guess. The second 510 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: guessers would have a field day with that and say, 511 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: how can you not give the ball to see Kwan 512 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Barkley if you're on the one yard line. Well, I 513 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: will say this on the subject. Andy Reid is known 514 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: for using defensive lineman okay, around the end zone on 515 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: two fridge back. But when the reason I'm bringing up 516 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: Andy Reid with Don Terry Poe, if you go back 517 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: to Kansas City against Denver, I know he utilized him. 518 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: Pat Shermer is from that Andy Reid school of thought. 519 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: So if Shermer looks at his personnel and read looked 520 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: at his personnel when he sees a big body on defense, 521 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, let's explore opportunities. It would not surprise 522 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: me if they go that route. But I'm gonna ask 523 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: you to put yourself into Pat Shermer's shoes. You're sitting 524 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: there with the ball on the one yard line, are 525 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: you honestly believing that Dexter Lawrence has a better chance 526 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: to punch it in than se Kwan Barkley does, and 527 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: when you weigh that scale, chances are Barkley is gonna win. Well, 528 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: I would do this. I would. It's an interesting thought, 529 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: garbage in garbage time, I might do it. Well, this 530 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: is what I would do. I would line up Dexter 531 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: Lawrence is my full back. I'd have say Kwan Barkley 532 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: behind him, and let's keep the defense guessing because I 533 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: can hand it off. The decks are gonna hand it 534 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: off the Barkley. Why not that I don't think you're 535 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: predictable into that circumstance. I got a better idea, go 536 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: jumbo package and put Dexter Lawrence out there on the 537 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: edge as the extra tight end and run right behind him. 538 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: That would work as well. Even you could score a 539 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: touchdown from the one. Absolutely. But see, that's how I 540 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: think you can get creative. Because my concern is when 541 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: you put Dexter Lawrence on the field, you're getting the 542 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: defense's attention, but you don't want it. You don't want 543 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: to get it to a point where they have a 544 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: feeling you're absolutely gonna go to him. So if you 545 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: move him around to my mind as the tight end 546 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: is the fullback, let him. It doesn't matter. He's six 547 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: four pounds. You you you basically tell everybody in the 548 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: stadium we're running it right up his back. Go ahead, 549 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: weare we dare you. Well, listen, he's big enough to 550 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: create space. Let's put it that way. And that's who 551 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 1: I want down on the goal line if it does 552 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: get to that position, knowing, knowing that the balls come 553 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: in your way and Dexter Lawrence, it's leading the charge. 554 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: That's one thing. Stopping it's another. Well, that's why I said, 555 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: if you were a defense and you have to deal 556 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: with Elijah Penny versus Dexter Lawrence, Okay, is the fullback? 557 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: Who do you think you want to deal with? I 558 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: think you'll take Elijah Penny any day of the weekend, 559 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: twice on Sunday before you have to at least, no, 560 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: no disrespect all It's just one guy is much larger 561 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: than the other. I think it's common sense here. All right, 562 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: let's head back to the phone lines. Will Is in Houston, 563 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: will welcome the Big Blue kig Off Live. What do 564 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: you have for us? Yeah, appreciate you guys taking my call. Absolutely. Yeah. 565 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: So I'll tell your mind. Yeah. Yeah, So it's a 566 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: couple of months. As I called, it was actually the 567 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: prem remorse signing. UM. So I just wanted to get 568 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: in before the first preseason game to give my bold predictions. 569 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: And then I have one quick clarification question about the 570 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: game on Thursday as well too. UM. The first bold 571 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: prediction I have, UM is I do not believe that 572 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: b J. Goodson will be on the fifty three pant 573 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: roster after cut some day. That's not number one. I 574 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: actually don't think that his replacement is currently on the roster. 575 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: I think that that sports inside linebacker role will be 576 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: filled by more athletic, coverage capable inside linebacker. I don't 577 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: think he fits the scheme as well. UM. And it 578 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: seems to be the trend also from the last regime 579 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: kind of guys not being able to stick around as long. 580 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: So that that's number one. UM. You can if you 581 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: think that's bold or not. I just think that's UH 582 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: one one possibility. M. The second is that the team 583 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: will finish pen and six and will have a playoff birth. UM. 584 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that it will be m 585 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: be a wall card or division title. I think that's 586 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: probably more difficult to predict than just simply being in 587 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So we'll just go with the ten and 588 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: six record UH and a playoffs birth UM. And then 589 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: the last one is actually a two parter on on 590 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: se KWin. I think that se Kuan will be a 591 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: finalist in the MVP voting. UM, so one two or three. UM. 592 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: You know, I won't I won't go super into depth 593 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: with that. I think that he will be one two 594 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: or three. And the reason for that is because I 595 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: think that his stat line will will be this. And 596 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: I came to this conclusion because Stephen Jackson, with his 597 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: recent UH retire from the league, there was a stat 598 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: that I saw that said that he was the only 599 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: NFL running back in history to rush for fift hundred 600 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: and to receive for eight hundred in the same UM 601 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: in the same year. UM. And I think that se 602 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: Kwan will be the second player to do that in 603 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: the league. UM, which see kind of far fetched, but 604 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: it's actually not too far Oh. I don't think that's 605 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: far fetched at all. I think that's very reasonable. Yep. 606 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: And again, I you know, he was only a rushes 607 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: rushaurants away from my last year and seventy nine away 608 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: from it in the UH perceiving, So you know, with 609 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: the improvement in the offensive line, I think that he 610 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: very shortly could have put it for yards rushing in 611 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: the first half of the year. And I think that 612 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: we'll see a scheme change where he will be used 613 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: for more down the field in the receiving game, with 614 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: less receptions and more yards uh. And I'm really excited 615 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: about that. Um. So those are my bold predictions. I 616 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: do have one clarification question regarding the game on Thursday, 617 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: though I believe this was mentioned UM yesterday from you, 618 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: Paul Um. The website will be having a live stream 619 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: of the game, correct that I hear that correctly. Yeah, 620 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: from what I understand, if you're interested in following the 621 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: game Thursday night against the Jets at seven pm Eastern Time, 622 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: you'll have a bunch of options. If you want to 623 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: watch it UH. In New York, you turn on w 624 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: NBC TV channel four and see it over the air. 625 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: If you're out of the New York metropolitan area. NFL 626 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: Network is picking up the simulcast of w NBC TV 627 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: channel for New York, so it will be nationwide on 628 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: NFL Network. In addition, to that, I've been told that 629 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: the Channel four New York affiliate stream will be on 630 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Giants dot com, so you can watch the telecast on 631 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: the internet or on your phone or whatever it is 632 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: that you're gonna use whatever device you have and you 633 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: could watch it there. In addition to that, the game 634 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: will be on the radio on w f A n 635 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: A M six sixty. Okay, the FM one on one 636 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: point nine will have the Yankees game f A N 637 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: w f A n dot com on the stream on 638 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: the web will also have the radio call for the 639 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: Giants Jets, of which I'll be doing the play by 640 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: play with Shawn O'Hara. Perfect. Yeah, the live stream on 641 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: the website's really I thinks I don't have NFL network 642 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: and I'm at a out of out of the market, 643 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: so that actually works really well. Is that the case 644 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: for all of the preseason games or is that just 645 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: for the snow people. Well, as far as I know, 646 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: the six sixty deal with the split signal for with 647 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: the Yankees is only when there's a Yankees conflict, and 648 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: I think I think we'd have to check the Yankee schedule, 649 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: rainouts and different different things as more. For the NBC 650 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: broadcast whether or not. The three remaining games are also 651 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: going to be streamed, and oh ye does stream I 652 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: believe I believe that is accurate. The Giants first two 653 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: preseason games, the Jets game and the Bears game, they 654 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: are going to be simulcasting the Channel four New York 655 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: feed on NFL Network live. The last two games against 656 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati and the Patriots will be on tape delay. In fact, 657 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna do a solid 658 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that schedule up right now on Twitter 659 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: because I have the schedule of when all the Giants 660 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: games are going to be on NFL Network, the two 661 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: live games and then the two tape delade games. I'll 662 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: put that up on Twitter for you now, so you 663 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: you're able to have that. But to answer your question, well, 664 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: because you just said you don't have NFL Network and 665 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: you obviously out of the New York market, I do 666 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: believe that NBC will be streaming all four of those 667 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: preseason games at Giants dot Com should be putting it 668 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: up on its site. So I think for the sake 669 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: of the preseason, you should be in good shape. And 670 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: if you can't, the radio broadcast is going to be 671 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: streamed most likely for all four games online as well, 672 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: so you should be covered with respect to the preseas. Yeah, perfect, 673 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: all right, thank you guys so much for taking my call. 674 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: You thanks so much for giving us a ring. Appreciate it. 675 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: Two zero one five one three is the telephone number. 676 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: Let's head back to the lines. We've got Woody in Rochester. Woody, 677 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: welcome aboard to Big Blue Kick Off Live. What do 678 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: you have for us? Thank you for taking my call 679 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: on first time caller from Bill's Country. And I actually 680 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: had the two two points one. I think I'm suffering 681 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: from giants um acute giants withdrawal because I was literally 682 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: dreaming about some of the storylines with this game. You know, 683 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: with some people, you know, looking at Eli versus Donald 684 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: or Barkley versus Bell. Obviously they won't play much and 685 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: elis my boy and Barkley's my boy. But there's that. 686 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: And then UM wide Receiver helped I think in looking 687 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: for folks that we could use one unconventional thing that 688 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking about as I'm a pro football junkie. 689 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: I watched UM the Arena League, and the championship of 690 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: the Arena League is going to be, I believe tomorrow, 691 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: and there's a wide receiver in there. His name is 692 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: Malakai Jones and you know he you know he's related. 693 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: What's that he's related to t J. Jones. Yes, yeah, 694 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: he's on the Giants right now with the former Lion. Yeah. H. 695 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking about, you know, whether the Giant should 696 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, give him a look because obviously it's going 697 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: to be available pretty soon. Okay. I mean, once again, 698 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: my answer is gonna be the same thing would he 699 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: to the previous caller. I think the Giants right now 700 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: are content with what they have in house. You also 701 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: have to consider when you bring in a wide receiver 702 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: this late in the game, they have to play catch 703 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: up because they don't know the playbook. I mean t J. 704 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: Jones is playing catch up right now. He's a veteran 705 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 1: and he's still learning. And I think that with guys 706 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: like Alonzo Russell, Reggie White, Demari Scott, Alex Wesley coming 707 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: off of pup recently, you know, they want to evaluate 708 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: those guys they feel good about Benny Faller, Russell Shepard, 709 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: and Cody Latimer. So, you know, bringing in a wide 710 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: receiver at this point, especially somebody no disrespect from the 711 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: Arena League. I don't know if that's really going to 712 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: be that big of an X factor for them. Here 713 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 1: for the remainder of the preseason, I can fee your point. 714 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: One thing I would like to to say is that 715 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: you know, obviously he's you know, on the Elitement League, 716 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: which which obviously doesn't probably mean that much. But you 717 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: think that a guy who runs really sharp routes on 718 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: a fifty yard field could be of value. Maybe not obviously, 719 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: not like the second or third but maybe it's a 720 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth light receive. Well, here here's what I 721 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: will say. Again. I understand that that he's t J. 722 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: Jones brother, but I'm looking at his resume in the 723 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: Arena League. First of all, he had a free agent 724 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: deal out of Appalachian State with the Atlanta Falcons and 725 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: didn't stick. Was gone by the end of rookie Minicamp. 726 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean anything. Sometimes a guy needs a 727 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: second chance. But he's been with the High County Grizzlies, 728 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Havoc, the Albany and Empire. Then got another 729 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: shot in the NFL with the Chicago Bears and didn't 730 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: last but a couple of months. Then went to the 731 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: Atlanta Legends, and you know, I mean in the Alliance, 732 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: and now he's back with the higher in the Arena League, 733 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: so he's bounced around kind of like a ping pong ball. 734 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to believe that if he had something to 735 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: offer somebody, what have stuck with him by now? That's fair, 736 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. For another guy, by the way, 737 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: that I even mentioned when I was listening off the receivers, 738 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: also Darius Slayton, who is still obviously nursing the hamstring injury. 739 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: But he's another guy that you need to factor in 740 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: if they keep five or six. So you can't you 741 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: can't think about him right now because he's unavailable. And 742 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: quite honestly, if his hamstring lingers as long as Odell 743 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: Beckham juniors did when Beckham was a rookie, well he's 744 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: probably gonna find himself on I R to be to 745 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: be quite frank with you, because either he's on the 746 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: fifty three opening day or he's gonna be on I R. 747 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: Because I don't see any way the Giants would just 748 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: cut him because obviously he showed enough where they're gonna 749 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: want him around. You're not gonna want to get rid 750 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: of this guy, and he made strides during this. Pat 751 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: Schremer spoke very highly of him, no question, But what 752 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: if he what if he can't what if he can't 753 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: get back? Now he's working on the side, okay. I 754 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: saw him do high steps a couple of days ago. 755 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: Then he did back pedals okay, and he's still with 756 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: the trainers on the side. But bottom line is, if 757 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't get out there for the entire preseason, you 758 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can keep him on the grade. Well, 759 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: you put him on I R. He can always return 760 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: because remember he could be the guys to return. You 761 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: don't necessarily lose him for the season. But because he's 762 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to sit out about half the season, that's 763 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 1: why obviously there's not necessarily a rush to put somebody 764 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: on I R. Point is, I don't see him getting cut. No, 765 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: I don't see him getting cut either. And it's August six. 766 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: We've got a few weeks here before they got to 767 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: finalize the fifty three. I mean, if he could get 768 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: back on the field for the final preseason game, you know, 769 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: then I think that gives them enough confidence that put 770 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: him on I R. Nobody's saying he's got to play 771 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: three of the four preseason games. He gets out there 772 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: for one, I think we're fine. And the reason I 773 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: brought that in, uh, let's assume he gets on the 774 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: field from preseason game, because I mean, it's not as 775 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: if he tore a ligament or anything. So when you 776 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: do the numbers game, once again, we're talking about bringing 777 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: a guy from the Arena League. I don't even see 778 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: the guy from the Arena League in a hypothetical conversation 779 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: you're getting over some of these other younger guys. I 780 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: don't see that either. So and and this is in 781 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: spite of the fact that there's a realistic chance the 782 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: Giants will not have to count Tate on their fifty 783 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: three for the absolutely first if we get suspended, they 784 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: will not because a suspended player never counts against the 785 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: fifty three, right, So you know that that won't impact 786 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: the rest of the roster. It's just when the four 787 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: game suspension finishes up, you then have to activate him 788 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: and make a roster move. But going in, if Golden 789 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: Tate suspension is upheld, then they know they could keep 790 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: five or six wide receivers and Golden Tate is not 791 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: one of them. And he doesn't count against Really, how 792 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: about this, if you want to be crafty about it, 793 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: Let's say Slayton isn't able to play during the preseason 794 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: because of the hamstring. You know what, maybe you just 795 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: buy the extra time the tate if he gets suspended 796 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: to use for Slaton just to carry him to see 797 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: if you can get healthy. You might even be able 798 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: to do that. It's another option. Certainly you can explore it. 799 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's different options based on how the injuries 800 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: play out. And remember, you know we're now operating on 801 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: what the roster looks like now after four preseasons. It's true, true, 802 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: you just you never know. Not that we're wishing anybody 803 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: get hurt, but let's face it, somebody is going to 804 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: get banged up. Here's what I do every he's the 805 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: only guy in that wide receiver's room who can run 806 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: a sub four four and they want a guy who 807 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: can do that on this team because he brings yeah, yeah, 808 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: more of a reason why he has value whether he's 809 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: or not. Let's head back to the phone lines. We've 810 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: got Mr E in Brooklyn. Mr E, welcome aboard. What 811 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: do you offer us? Hey? How you doing? Guys right? 812 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: We'll tell your mind. Thanks for having my call um 813 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: to second time up called really quick though, one quick point, 814 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: one quick bull connection, and one quick question for as 815 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: quick point is I'm curious as to why every season 816 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: we have another quarterback drafted, regardless of the round, it's 817 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 1: still another quarterback, like another new player, and yet the 818 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: height that builds up around this quarterback is going to 819 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: be the new era. Parent to Eli, it's constant. It's 820 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: it's so redundant that every season it happens. I watched 821 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: the industry with Eli yesterday and he said he's used 822 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: to it, and yet nobody factors in this can emotionally 823 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: and psychologically be a deterrent. And I granted these the professionals, 824 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: and they should and it should be so to speak, 825 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, oblivious to that, but still the human and 826 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't understand why it's not second place like the 827 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: old days, where you're going to be drafting a new quarterback, 828 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: give the clipboard, let him learn instead. Now we put 829 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: the pressure on, Oh there's a new guy coming, and 830 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: Eli is, well, we've done it's gotten better. That was 831 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: my first comment. Well, let me just answer that by 832 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: saying there is nobody inside the Giants organization who is 833 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: rushing Eli out of here, reporting pressure on him. You're 834 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: talking about a segment of the fan base that, for 835 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: some reason, perhaps because they read and hear a lot 836 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: of stuff, that has pushed the the table in that 837 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: direction or the needle in that direction. Is actually the 838 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: phrase I'm looking for. This has nothing to do with reality. 839 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: Reality is the door is open on Eli Manning, not 840 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: only to finish this season, but if the Chips fall 841 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: the way that the Giants hope they do, and they're 842 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 1: optimistic about it, the tour is open that Eli maybe 843 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: the starter in two thousand twenty. And that's the reality 844 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: of it. But you know, there are a lot of 845 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: people who simply don't want to believe that. And it's 846 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: and as far as the other stuff, here's here's what's 847 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: funny about it. The same people who put in print 848 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: or on their computer screen that Loletta was going to 849 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: challenge Eli in terms of taking his job last year. 850 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: It is laughable. Kyle Loletta never took one snap in 851 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 1: practice with the first team during the entire season. Now 852 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: you tell me you you you obviously are a good fan. 853 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: You tell me, why would anybody with any sense of 854 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: logic whatsoever, try to promote that theme when the quarterback 855 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: that you're talking about has not taken a single solitary 856 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: snap with the starters. Are you seriously going to look 857 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: somebody in the eye and say that there's a chance 858 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: that he's gonna supplant the lie Manning? How ridiculous is 859 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: that theory? True? True? True that I agree with you, 860 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: But I always wonder why all these accommicators of sports 861 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: writers go crazy over it. Because they need the clicks. 862 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: They need the attention. They need the attention and the clicks. Okay, 863 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: my Bowl prediction, my one Bowl prediction. And I know 864 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: people are gonna think I'm gonna crazy say Kawan Barkley 865 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 1: will rush for over two thousand yards this season. Who yeah, 866 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: I know it's crazy, trust me, it's bold, as bold 867 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: as can be. But I got a solid feeling. I 868 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: watched every game, every second. I've rewatched every game from 869 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: last season. I watched the offensive line. I've watched the 870 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: move in the Sa Kwan. I've watched the comfortability of 871 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: the left side of the line solidifying with Zimmer, Ramors 872 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: and Zeiler on the right side. That is what he needs. 873 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: I looked at all of Barry Sanders based runs best 874 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 1: games and here the crappiest line, which we all know, 875 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: but what he did have with natural ability. So you 876 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,240 Speaker 1: imagine you give Barry Sanders at that time a decent line, 877 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: the numbers will be ridiculous, say quantity we did last 878 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: year when arguably one of the worst lines or inconsistent, 879 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: Not that I'm hating on my team, but he still 880 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: did what he did. You solidify this line like they've 881 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: done now on the right side, the potential is unbelievable, 882 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: especially since he's more comfortable, and we always know when 883 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: you get comfortable in that second year. I believe that receivers, quarterbacks, 884 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: and running backs show the most aggressive performance in their 885 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: second year of comfortability, primarily because if they take their 886 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: nervousness out of it, not saying the other guys don't, 887 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: but I think they're more inclined to be more explosive 888 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: in that second season. Here's the one thing I'm gonna 889 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: tell you, and it's not even about the second season. 890 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: It's about a running back having the confidence that his 891 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: offensive line is going to block the play correctly so 892 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: that when he wants to hit the hole and make 893 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: his move, the hole is going to be there, and 894 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,760 Speaker 1: to be honest with to be honest with you, that's 895 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: more important than being familiar with the scheme for the 896 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: second season, because if if if the blockers don't block it, 897 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: and they don't have an instinctive feel for where the 898 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 1: running back is going to make his move, and then 899 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: vice versa, the running back have that kind of feel 900 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: for his offensive line, then the numbers you're talking about 901 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: are simply impossible. It is those things that have to 902 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: happen more than just saying it's the second year in 903 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: the system and they feel comfortable. That is so much 904 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: hogwash compared to the actual chemistry that Barkley must build 905 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: with these offensive linemen. And keep in mind, keep in mind, 906 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: seven guys in NFL history have run for two thousand 907 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: yards in a single season. That's it, just seven. Well, 908 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: he's certainly talented. No, I'm not saying. I'm not saying 909 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: Barkley is not talented enough. My point is that from 910 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: a perspective standpoint, seven guys in the entire history of 911 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 1: the NFL have done that. It's not as if this happens, 912 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, once every five years. He's also a generational 913 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: n he has one presented generational talent. But Barry Sanders 914 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: also he is one of the guys that did it. 915 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: He only did it once during the course of his career. 916 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: And while yes, he didn't have the greatest offensive line, 917 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: the Lions also had a number of key weapons around 918 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: by Sanders too, So it was a good offense and 919 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: may not been a great offensive line, was good offense 920 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: where they're more than cable putting points on the board. 921 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: And even under those circumstances, he only did it once. 922 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,479 Speaker 1: So I'm just providing some context in terms of age 923 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: with that. Agree with that and my last statement that 924 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you guys go us about our receivers. 925 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that you know there's a high 926 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: level of attrition in most receiver rooms, and that's the case, 927 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: and I guess on anybody, and you want the best receivers. 928 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: I love the idea that we have these young guys 929 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: who are coming. I had liked the idea. However, I 930 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe they're trying to push it. Maybe you 931 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: got can educate me better. I'd like Darius Slayton. I 932 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: hate the fact that you've got the hamstring issue. I've 933 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: always wanted the Giants to have take it off the 934 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 1: top receivers, height end or speed. Either or or height 935 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: doesn't always work if you don't have a lot of 936 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 1: speed and terrible hands, but speed kills and Darius Slayton 937 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: sub for three. I mean, so sfore for that's ridiculous. 938 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: Kick this kid healthy. Get some speed. I think two 939 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: years ago we had another really speedy guy in camp 940 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know what happened to him. He day 941 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: was he was another speedy speedster. I don't know why 942 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: we don't get a lot more juicy, speedy guys to 943 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: go there. I mean, look at the lines on I've 944 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: watched him in camp. He's looked ridiculous with his um 945 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: powered accuracy. Give him some receivers well to your point though, 946 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: and appreciate the phone call mystery more importantly, give him 947 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: some time to throw it well that too. But what 948 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say is is that speed is great, but 949 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: the big part of it is if the guys can't 950 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: catch the ball consistently and make plays, speed is irrelevant. 951 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: So you know that's a big part of it. That's 952 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: more of a reason why Slady needs to get back 953 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: on the field to continue to gain that chemistry with 954 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: Eli Manning. That's why you know a guy with speed, Yeah, 955 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: you want him to get past the corners. You also 956 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: want him to consistently make those plays. So that's something 957 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: to keep in mind when you evaluate his upside and 958 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: his outlook on the team. Let's go to Mike in Virginia. Mike, 959 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kickoff Live. What do you have 960 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: for us? Hey, guys. First off, Lance, I gotta tell 961 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: you you were right about following Charlie on Twitter. God, 962 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: that's foreign. Well, I'm not telling anybody anything. They don't 963 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: know if they've been following the program and so forth. 964 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: So it really, it really is. But I have I 965 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: have a bold prediction. I'm gonna say that is going 966 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: to Rue pass and catch a touchdown in a game. 967 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 1: Uncatch and pass for a touchdown. Yes, I haven't seen 968 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: him throw very much, so I don't know if I 969 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: can if I can buy that one as being plausible. 970 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 1: Certainly it's bold. I just don't know if it's plausible 971 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 1: A short pass if they run something in the red zone, 972 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: I guess. I guess it could happen to Cohen last 973 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: year through a touchdown pass for the Bears and I'd 974 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: like to I'd like to see se Kwan actually throw 975 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit before. I believe that in 976 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: the practice. I haven't seen him try. I remember Fiegel's 977 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: Jeff Fiegel's are are a broadcast partner. When he was 978 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: a punter here with the Giants, he used to beg 979 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 1: for the opportunity to throw a pass at a game, 980 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: and all the time at practice on the side he'd 981 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: he'd be throwing spirals, and it was it was always 982 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: intriguing to think that Fiagles might actually throw one in 983 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: a game exactly. And one more thing, Paul, I want 984 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: to tell you that I'm I'm as old school as 985 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,879 Speaker 1: you are. Um, I've been a giant stance in um 986 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: you know those are those are the lean years. Let 987 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 1: me tell you, oh baby, they sure we're well, you're 988 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about the Yale Bowl right there, nineteen seventy 989 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 1: four exactly. But anyway, again, that's my that's my bold prediction. 990 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm on board with you, Paul on that 991 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm in love with C. J. Conrad, that that kids 992 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 1: have studied. Yeah, he really is. And and I will 993 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,959 Speaker 1: tell you this all right, Lands and I were talking 994 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: about the practice today, the Giants are rolling in all 995 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: of these tight ends at one time or another. With 996 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: the starters. They're all getting an opportunity, so no one's 997 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna be able to complain by the time they make 998 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 1: their decision on the tight end depth chart that they 999 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: did not get a chance because everybody is getting some 1000 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: run with the first team and even the second team. 1001 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: So whoever wins, may the best man win those jobs. 1002 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: Because and I'm a C. J. Conrad guy, but I'm 1003 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: telling you this competition is really fierce. And one more 1004 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: and and like you said, one more. Thanks, Sorry, guys, 1005 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,879 Speaker 1: but do you see Conrad possibly being an h back? 1006 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: They don't. Let's put it this way. When he's out there, 1007 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 1: he's running as a tight end, so you know, could 1008 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: it happen? I guess it could. We know he's a 1009 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: terrific blocker if you watched his work at Kentucky, and 1010 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: even coach Schumer said his blocking is certainly ahead of 1011 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: his other skills. But I think he's a real good 1012 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: receiver from what I've seen here too. Uh, he's not 1013 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 1: afraid to knock people over, and he is very strong 1014 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: and physical, So could it be? I guess? I guess 1015 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: they could use him that way. I just I just 1016 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: like to see him on the fifty three because I 1017 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: think he's got a lot of one Yes, al right, guys, 1018 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: take care and I will continue listening as always, and 1019 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,280 Speaker 1: much I hate to say it, I'll follow. I'll follow, Charlie. 1020 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a train wreck. You don't you 1021 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: you don't want to look, but you have to. Well, 1022 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have to train wreck. I 1023 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: agree with you that I appreciate the phone call. I 1024 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: don't think anybody should be forced to look or listen 1025 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 1: to him. We just uh have the kindness of our heart. 1026 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 1: Try to field his phone calls once in a while. 1027 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: We don't play the intro though, Remember when I'm at 1028 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: the controls, that's only when John is here running the show. 1029 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 1: So that's also a rare occurrence. Getting back to Conrad, 1030 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 1: if they don't keep a fullback on the roster, you know, 1031 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: could they entertain maybe the idea of him as an 1032 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: age back. It's possible, but I would agree with what 1033 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: Paul said. I don't really see that right now. I 1034 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: see them utilizing him solely as a tight end. And 1035 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: you know Pat Schrmer's comment that you're referring to Paul 1036 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,919 Speaker 1: was that when he was asked about Conrad last week, 1037 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: he said he's a really good blocker, and he emphasize that, 1038 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 1: but the blocking is ahead of the route running is 1039 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: the term that he used. So I'm anxious to see 1040 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: if he gets opportunities in these preseason games. You know, 1041 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 1: how many times do they get him to run a route? 1042 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 1: How many targets does he get and does he make plays? 1043 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: Because that I think would then really help him solidify 1044 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: a shot on the fifty three man. Can I add 1045 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 1: after the ellipsus another part to what I think I 1046 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: would put to Shermer's statement, He's got terrific hands. I've 1047 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: seen him only drop two passes at camp, which is 1048 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: what he should continue to do. Don't give the coaches 1049 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: any reason to doubt having you on the fifty three man. Rossa. 1050 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: But another guy, in fairness to not overlook, and this 1051 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,839 Speaker 1: goes back to the numbers game. Do you keep three 1052 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: tight ends? Do you keep four tight ends? Is Scott Simons? 1053 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: I know? And if they elect to clearly say hey, 1054 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram and Red Ellison are guys, then could it 1055 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,439 Speaker 1: become a battle between Simon's and and Conrad. And let's 1056 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: just say, hypothetically, if Conrad didn't make the fifty three, 1057 00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: do they have a shot to retain him on the 1058 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: p act the squad. I think a lot may depend 1059 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: on how he does in the preseason, because I wouldn't 1060 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: rule that out. I would not rule out that even 1061 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: if they don't keep him for the fifty three, maybe 1062 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: passes through waivers and they can bring it back. We've 1063 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: seen that sometimes happen, where you know, somebody who everybody 1064 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,280 Speaker 1: thinks he is gonna get claimed and then he doesn't, 1065 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: and the Giants wind up retaining the services of a player. 1066 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: Of course, there's Dickerson also, who they've been as well. 1067 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: Point it's it's a tough competition. I would only say this, 1068 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: if Conrad does get sliced from the fifty three, I 1069 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 1: certainly hope myself that he winds up on the practice squad, 1070 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: because after all, he's my undrafted rookie free agent dark horse, 1071 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 1: so he's got to make me look good. But I 1072 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: want him well he anyway goes out makes statements in 1073 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: the preseason, I think he'll put himself in a very 1074 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: good position to do that. All right, that is gonna 1075 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: wrap up the latest edition a Big Blue Kickoff Live. 1076 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,800 Speaker 1: We'll be back up and running tomorrow at one pm 1077 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: Eastern has Owe's. It is all presented by Cora's Light. 1078 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: We appreciate the phone calls. We don't an opportunity to 1079 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 1: get to tweets because we got a lot of calls. 1080 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: We'll trying to anin them off the air. Certainly appreciate 1081 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: everybody with their feedback. For Paul to Tino, I'm Lance Meadow. 1082 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: You wanted to throw one more item in or you 1083 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,959 Speaker 1: were pointing dor, but what you wanted a United States 1084 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: cap live. Never get out of here for Paul the 1085 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: Tino on Lance Meadow. Enjoy the rest of your day 1086 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: and stay locked to Giants dot com. Have a good one.