WEBVTT - 02/25/21 DPS Hour 3 Tim Legler

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Jazz Roll the Lakers. We'll talk to Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Legler from the Mother's Ship on the rise of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jazz the fall of the Lakers. No updates on Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>Woods still in the hospital. If we get any information

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<v Speaker 1>in the next sixty minutes, we'll certainly bring that to

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<v Speaker 1>your attention. Got a pull question today, McLevin, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to update that? Okay, if you're JJ Watt, would

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<v Speaker 1>you sign for the Chiefs of the Bucks for seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half million dollars or a team like the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans or the Packers for fifteen million dollars? Seventy eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent say the seven point five million and the true

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<v Speaker 1>contender like the Chiefs. All Right, there's some rumblings over

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<v Speaker 1>here that we we stir it up a little bit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go with the the question to day, what's better Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City barbecue or Houston barbecue. Are we just going to

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<v Speaker 1>make people mad? Probably so. But Nick Wright started this.

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<v Speaker 1>We had him last hour at this time, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said that Houston barbecue was fraudulent, and he's all in

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<v Speaker 1>on Kansas City barbecue. I'm more of a Memphis guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had Kansas City, I've had Houston. Memphis just stood

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<v Speaker 1>out as something different and Kansas City was great. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Houston was good. I don't have any problem with

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<v Speaker 1>that Kansas City was special, but I thought Memphis was different. Yes, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to weigh in on this because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that clarification is in order. Kansas City has a style

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<v Speaker 1>of barbecue and lots and lots of great barbecue restaurants.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a style. Houston doesn't necessarily have its own

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<v Speaker 1>unique style of barbecue, but they also have great Texas

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<v Speaker 1>barbecue restaurants all over the place. Went to a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I think that's a differentiation here that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not Houston's not known as a barbecue city, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they have great barbecue. I don't know if we cleared

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<v Speaker 1>anything up there. We did, Okay, yea MC club. Do

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<v Speaker 1>people get more territorial about food? That their town is

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<v Speaker 1>known for, or their home teams, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Philly people and cheese steaks go insane. I know they

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<v Speaker 1>go insane over the Eagles, but like, if you like

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<v Speaker 1>say anything bad about our cheese steaks, we take it.

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<v Speaker 1>So personally, all I know is whenever Seaton brings up

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<v Speaker 1>In and Out Burger, he certainly hears from those in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles the best because you think In and Out

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<v Speaker 1>Burger is overrated. Sorry, five guys is just a superior burger.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, And these are facts I can't Yeah, MC club.

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<v Speaker 1>What about that beans and ketchup that they call Skyline Chili?

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<v Speaker 1>What's uh? Oh? So you're going into Cincinnatis, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't even know. You're not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even biggest Skylight Jili. Care you know? White Castles and

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<v Speaker 1>gold Star and Skyline Chili. That's what I grew up with.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you want to criticize it, go ahead, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. I'll tell you one thing that I don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>deep dish pizza. Now you're trolling Paulie everybody that right now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and get some Coney Allen hot dogs. While

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<v Speaker 1>people are very defensive in their hometown food to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where they have no wiggle room. Mel Kiper is

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<v Speaker 1>from Maryland and I used to work with Mel. We

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<v Speaker 1>once went to a restaurant. We're down south somewhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>I order crab cakes. He goes, you should be embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, you should never order crab cakes outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Maryland. He was he was dead serious, goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you should be embarrassed. Ball and he thinks they're the

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<v Speaker 1>only good ones. Some people think that the only good barbecue.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a barbecue or pizza? People think New York

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<v Speaker 1>pizza or whatever. Well, I will say New Haven pizza

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<v Speaker 1>is the best pizza in the world. Well, I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>America because I'm going to guess that, you know, are

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<v Speaker 1>Naples affiliate in Italy, that they'd probably be upset about that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you see. Is I just honestly I flared up with

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<v Speaker 1>anger because I think Brooklyn's right there. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>one A and one B in pizza. Yeah, Brooklyn is

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<v Speaker 1>more famous than New Haven nationally. People come to Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>on these tour buses to eat pizza. It's why else

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<v Speaker 1>would they Ever where you go, they like to call

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<v Speaker 1>it New York pizza, because New York has the best pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>No one ever says New Haven pizza. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a sign like that in a North Dakota or Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>Come check out our New Haven style pizza, Todd. If

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't from New York, would you be saying that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would if after after testing tasting New

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<v Speaker 1>York pizza, I don't think there's a close second. Not Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>not not any of these New Haven committant you say

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<v Speaker 1>Sparrow has great pizza, and as they have great pizza,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good being and it's good. I actually like to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't trust you with Italian food. New York has

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<v Speaker 1>more bad pizza than good pizza. They've got great pizza places,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've got some places that put out stuff. It

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<v Speaker 1>is left for hours out on a counter with flies

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<v Speaker 1>running around. Well I don't know about that. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but but you know what, at one thirty in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably looks pretty good. I would to defend my

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<v Speaker 1>back row partner here. If Sabarrow is so bad, why

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<v Speaker 1>would there be so many of them? Clearly it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>there's millions. It must be somebody got out of business

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<v Speaker 1>a lot time agreement. Is that your logic? I'm sort

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<v Speaker 1>of half joy, but there must be something to Sabaro.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they have survived all the years? I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the mall eating Sabarrow and you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're late eighties. There's a lot of fast food restaurants, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that have been open for decades. Yeah. Seton, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>very pop music take from Andrew, like, well, everybody likes it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it can't be bad, which that is the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of him. He is exactly if everybody likes it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the worst. I wouldn't order Sabarrow as if you put

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<v Speaker 1>a gun to my head. But yeah, of course, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the logic on mclovin coming up with pop music? Oh? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>pop pop? Nobody likes. Why is pop music so pop?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well it's pop. Music is short for popular.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little Yogi Barratt. This place is too crowded.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody goes there anymore. Paul sefe and get a barbecue

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<v Speaker 1>expert on the show. Well, you know what chatted Tregor

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<v Speaker 1>is a barbecue expert. Oh, I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he wants to go out on a limit.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a couple of barbecue journalists, which what a

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<v Speaker 1>job barbecue journalist. All right, welcome to the show. Already

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<v Speaker 1>in progress. As you can tell, been an interesting week

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<v Speaker 1>for Tom Brady. The Bucks GM Jason Light said that

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<v Speaker 1>the team would consider signing him to an extension. Then

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<v Speaker 1>a report came out that Brady is going to need

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<v Speaker 1>more than clean up surgery on his knee and might

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<v Speaker 1>be out a little bit more. He turns forty four

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<v Speaker 1>in August. And look, this is unchartered territory. You've had

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Vinnie test of Ardie and Warren Moon. They

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<v Speaker 1>made it that far. George blanda Hall of Famer, lasted

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<v Speaker 1>till he was forty eight, but he was a backup

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback with the Raiders, but he was their full time kicker.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not elite like Brady. And he strolled into Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay no preseason and led them to the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's easy to take for granted how difficult a

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<v Speaker 1>task it really was. I think it's his best accomplishment

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<v Speaker 1>in his career what he did in Tampa, doing it

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<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic, you know, trying to get to know

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<v Speaker 1>this team with a new coach in the NFC, and

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<v Speaker 1>he ends up winning the Super Bowl. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>the real issue in the offseason for Tampa Bay is

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<v Speaker 1>the personnel issues. Those are the real challenges. But would

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<v Speaker 1>I bet against Tom Brady? I would not. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to how long he wants to play, and

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<v Speaker 1>I look, I was in there with probably the majority

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<v Speaker 1>when Brady said I want to play. I'm forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, okay, forty five. He can't play to

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<v Speaker 1>his forty five. I wondered if anybody would want him

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<v Speaker 1>at that age. And now Tampa Bay is looking at

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<v Speaker 1>an extension. Who's on the phone, Paully, Chad the smoke

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<v Speaker 1>master from Treggers on the phone. He just got off

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<v Speaker 1>a flight and knows this as an emergency. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Chad Ward from tregger and our good buddy Nick Wright

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<v Speaker 1>was on from Fox Sports First Things First, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said that Houston barbecue was fraudulent Kansas City as the

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<v Speaker 1>best barbecue. Chad, you are a champion grill master. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you like to weigh in on the barbecue discussion? That

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<v Speaker 1>that is very that's a very strong take. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Paully would agree with me. We're both big fans

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<v Speaker 1>of Ronnie Killions, which is right there in Houston. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some really good Houston barbecue. Kansas City, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>there right there kind of you know they maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>maybe first, but I don't think you can call it

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<v Speaker 1>fraudulent at all. So that's that's my opinion. Okay, one

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<v Speaker 1>type situation, Dan, Okay, where's Memphis get in there with

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<v Speaker 1>the barbecue? For me, personally, I got to put it

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<v Speaker 1>behind Houston and Kansas City. I mean, they've got good work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a huge dry red fan, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>they're known for, but I think as far as quality

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<v Speaker 1>of joints, I would even put definitely Austin probably ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of Houston and Memphis. And that ranking what makes Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City barbecue the best barbecue. It's just for me, Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City is one of those places. One it's a home

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<v Speaker 1>of the burnt End, which is one of my favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>you know cuts to enjoy. And there's just so many

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<v Speaker 1>good ones. There's Q thirty nine, there's Oklahoma Joe's, They're slaps,

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<v Speaker 1>They're just a plethora. You could go to eight ten

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<v Speaker 1>joints and all of them be some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>barbecue Anybody's eight. So I think it's just a plethora

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<v Speaker 1>of barbecue places and just their their style with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being heavy on the burnt ends. What is the common

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<v Speaker 1>mistake that people make with barbecue? Common mistake people make

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<v Speaker 1>with barbecue is they usually don't pay enough attention to

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<v Speaker 1>internal temperature and they want to base everything off the time. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be done in five hours. Whereas to me, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where every almost kind of lived

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<v Speaker 1>a different lives. Some meats are tougher and more tender,

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<v Speaker 1>more marbled than others. So a good instant reek thermometer

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<v Speaker 1>and cooking to a set finished temperature is something I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like enough. You know, people starting out too

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<v Speaker 1>and they get frustrated. Chad, thanks for joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>this very important topic. We apologize for interrupting your busy schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>That is that is Chad from Tregger, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>champion girl master. Thank you Chad. All right, Glad, we

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<v Speaker 1>tracked down Chad. Chad knows is barbecue and a not

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<v Speaker 1>go to Memphis anytime soon? Yeah, and Austin moves up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Chad just landed in Dallas. He didn't say anything about

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas barbecue there, although what's the steakhouse we went to

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas. I don't remember. There's a place in Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>called the Pecan Lodge and it's in this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>big building and they open and the line starts and

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<v Speaker 1>they just keep serving until you run out. But they

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<v Speaker 1>do a thing where you can get a plate for

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<v Speaker 1>four platter for four people. The Pecan Lodge was legit.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a steakhouse in Dallas and it's then two

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<v Speaker 1>people's names, like, it's not like PAULI we went there, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not Nick and riches its hold on. All I know

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<v Speaker 1>is that was the real deal um wolf Kangs. When

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<v Speaker 1>we went to Wolfgangs in Soho. That was good. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good spot. That one was. That's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those where you go, this is spectacular. Yeah, point, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was Nick and Sam's in Dallas. Yes, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can remember because the waitress says, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a special tonight. It's a Kobe beef steak. We only

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<v Speaker 1>have it a couple of times, you yark, Yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just about to say the press. Hey, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't picking up the jet. It was the best. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>here's why we don't have at this very often. But

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<v Speaker 1>I saw take it. Yeah, you're pinching me out of

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<v Speaker 1>the table getting day. Yeah, they were. They weren't the

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<v Speaker 1>salad days. They're the steak days. Oh good days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>our salad days included steak. We don't. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>those anymore, we we. It's basically my credit card, yes, mclo. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The two words of Golden Corral is Ponderosa. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys go to those places? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that's what steak was. You know, understand that my

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<v Speaker 1>seafood was Missus Paul's fish sticks growing up, that I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never had shrimp, cocktail, you know, calamari, any of that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, clams. I had Missus Paul's fish sticks. Yeah. See,

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty years ago, maybe my buddy had moved to

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<v Speaker 1>New York City and I had never been to a

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<v Speaker 1>nice restaurant or like steakhouse or anything. And he and

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<v Speaker 1>before that, no offense them, but my parents had always

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<v Speaker 1>cooked them and they kind of like their steak well done,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And so my buddy takes me to Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and Willinski's and he's just like, dude, I got it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna order like okay, cool. So we're there hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out and they brought out steaks, two steaks, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were still on the like sizzle, I think there was

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<v Speaker 1>sizzling and there was butter on them. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this? This is a steak. It blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea that it could be like that,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't We go with the executives of direct TV to

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Willinski's yea, and somebody ordered lemon chicken, lemon

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<v Speaker 1>pepper chicken. I did it as a joke because it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Supertense stable. You were in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a big negotiation and like everyone was sort of being

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<v Speaker 1>macho type A executive types, and I asked the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, tell me about the lemon pepper chicken. I

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<v Speaker 1>never knew you did that on purpose. Oh yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I love steak. I would ever were a

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<v Speaker 1>lemon pepper chicken. But you know those things on the menu.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, who, I've seen you order salmon at

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<v Speaker 1>a steakhouse. I think, haven't you done that before? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>with your salad before the steak? Dan would Dan, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do a surf and turf. But I don't think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just where you grew up. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>seafood was a big thing thirty years ago. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really blown up, like people didn't know. I couldn't, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, my family couldn't afford it, but it did.

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<v Speaker 1>Were rich people eating seafood back And I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea because I didn't go where rich people were eating.

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<v Speaker 1>None of us would know like where the rich people

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<v Speaker 1>were eating or what they were eating. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't belong to a country club, you know. See. I

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<v Speaker 1>once went to a diner in New Jersey with my

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<v Speaker 1>grandparents when I was young. I was I'm ten years old,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twelve or something, and one I ordered scallops at

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<v Speaker 1>a diner, which is kind of and I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother being like, oh, money bags show okay, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying for your day. You're getting a cheeseburger, okay, sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I am always amazed when lobster is on the

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<v Speaker 1>menu at a diner. You know, it's there's something wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with that picture where I don't know how long that

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<v Speaker 1>guy has been in the tank there. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'll have the lobster of all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've gone into a diner and the menu is

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<v Speaker 1>a men like It's crazy how big a menu is

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<v Speaker 1>at a diner. There is a thought that the more items,

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<v Speaker 1>the less good it is. You know, if it's four pages,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not good. One. All I know is hey, seven

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, veal parmer Jean. Yeah, thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going, who does that? It happens? I know

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<v Speaker 1>it does it? Does it? People order that? Sometimes? Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you're seven am started seven am yesterday and your clocks

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<v Speaker 1>a little often Yeah, a seven am veal palm, let's go, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we love it. But don't you have to wonder about

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<v Speaker 1>preparation of said veal palm? Like where are they pulling

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<v Speaker 1>this veal palm out of a thirty page venue? But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you can have all of that

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<v Speaker 1>food be made, you know in a diner. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you would think that the specialty would be this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we do, and we do this really well. Go

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<v Speaker 1>you go into a diner and I'm always amazed, or

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<v Speaker 1>like a cheese cake factory, pages after pages, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a binder of all these things on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the menu, and I go, how do they have

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<v Speaker 1>this ready to go? And it's every possible thing in competition?

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<v Speaker 1>Think pretty crazy Rich in California. High Rich, What do

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<v Speaker 1>you have for me to do some credibility? I have

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<v Speaker 1>a junior at Dayton, Ohio so University of Dayton, and

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<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to shout out for the Santa Maria barbecue.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be ranked in at least the top two

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<v Speaker 1>or three. Oh thou so Santa Maria, California Barbecue. Correct. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me check on that. Paul check on Santa Maria.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be niche because I didn't know that Santa

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<v Speaker 1>Maria was a hot better barbecue activity. I'll look into

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<v Speaker 1>a nominal. All right, Well, thank you Rich. I should

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to Guy Fieri Diners, drive Ins and Dies.

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<v Speaker 1>See what he is to say about triple D. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>triple D. Yeah, he probably has a list there. All right. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me take a break here. Tim Legler will join

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<v Speaker 1>us on loan from Mothership, and I have some interesting

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<v Speaker 1>numbers this season on three point shooting college and the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>And Legler is one of the great deep shooters in

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<v Speaker 1>NBA history, so Legs will appreciate these numbers coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>But is this just sort of the normal downtime the

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<v Speaker 1>teams have or a law and that's what the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>are going through right now or is there a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>picture that he sees? So we'll talk to Tim Legler.

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<v Speaker 1>John is coming up next here eighteen after the hour

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick show. All to this food, and I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about getting a built bar. What do you think, Todd,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all in. I don't know where you're gonna find

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<v Speaker 1>them since I've got them all now. Well, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of boxes out there. They're not full boxes. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much longer they're going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've got the the erge, better go grabward.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that I have a camera on every room? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you had some cameras. Is it really everywhere? Everywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>So I could see someone like putting in their bag, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the backroom guys. The back room guys are sneaky

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<v Speaker 1>because they'll walk by and they know there's a camera

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<v Speaker 1>on in the mailroom and they'll actually try to hide

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<v Speaker 1>the behind the camera. I saw one throw like a

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<v Speaker 1>towel or a sweatshirt or something over. Then just grab

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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<v Speaker 1>got some numbers here before I get to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great deep shooters in NBA history, and Tim Legler

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<v Speaker 1>on loan from the Mother's Ship. In the NBA this season,

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<v Speaker 1>the overall three point shooting percentage just under thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>percent thirty one percent of all made field goals or

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<v Speaker 1>three pointers. In college basketball Division one, the overall three

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<v Speaker 1>point shooting percentage just under thirty four percent. Twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent of all made field goals are three pointers. And

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<v Speaker 1>I watch college basketball. It's tough to watch because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no the player to watch in college basketball. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talent, but man, this is starting out in

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<v Speaker 1>like fifth grade in sixth grade, where everybody thinks they're

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<v Speaker 1>a deep shooter. Everybody, and it's the Steph Curry effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry's probably had a bigger impact on the game

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<v Speaker 1>than any other player in history because you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be like Mike. Nobody could be like Mike, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like everybody can try to be like Steph Curry.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a result, you've got guys shooting threes who

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<v Speaker 1>have no business shooting threes. Tim Legler had business shooting threes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Legs joins us. Now, what advice would you give

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<v Speaker 1>these shooters now or maybe the coaches now, these kids

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<v Speaker 1>who are coming up in grade school in high school

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<v Speaker 1>that all think that's how you get to the next

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<v Speaker 1>level by being a three point shooter. Yeah, Dan, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big challenge because you're right, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what the NBA looks like now. I think for

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<v Speaker 1>me and I was a three point shooter. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>I made my living. It's a little monotonous for me

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<v Speaker 1>to watch basketball now because it seems like that's the

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<v Speaker 1>intent of every possession, to get a three point shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was used a lot differently obviously when I

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<v Speaker 1>played in this different air. The problem is this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually filtered all the way down to the youth level,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly AAU level. Go watch an AU tournament one weekend

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<v Speaker 1>and sit there and you know, watch six eight games

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<v Speaker 1>on the court in front of you. Pull up a

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<v Speaker 1>chair and just take a look at what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>You're one hundred percent right. There's a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>taking that shot because they've been empowered to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>because people are telling everybody, the analytics say that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way to play basketball now. And there's too many guys

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<v Speaker 1>to me that have the ultimate green light that don't

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<v Speaker 1>deserve it. That's that's what I see when I watched

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<v Speaker 1>basketball now. But I was wondering about this with Magic Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>Magic couldn't shoot when he first came out of Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he could run an offense, he was great,

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful passer. I wonder how the NBA would treat him

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<v Speaker 1>if he was just coming out and he couldn't shoot

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<v Speaker 1>the three or you know, there's probably you know, tens,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty players that you can think of that how

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<v Speaker 1>would we view them now if they were coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Kidd, Jason Kidd couldn't shoot. He became a good

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<v Speaker 1>three point shooter, But how do you think basketball would

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<v Speaker 1>have treated, you know, legend Hall of famers like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. Well, you're talking about guys now at the

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<v Speaker 1>very top of the food chain, right, so you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about magic the most unique weapon in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the game at that position, six nine, powerful, playing downhill,

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<v Speaker 1>yet you know, no three points shot. But people would

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<v Speaker 1>look at him as a weapon that you can use

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<v Speaker 1>to set up three point shooters if he was coming

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<v Speaker 1>into the league now, because when you combine you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his ability to rebound at that position, his ability to

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<v Speaker 1>guard bigger guys, because the league now is set up

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<v Speaker 1>that way that you want a four or five man

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<v Speaker 1>that can switch out and guard guards. That's what he

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<v Speaker 1>would be. Yeah, but Ben Simmons like that, But Ben Simmons.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ben Simmons is a great defender, he can get

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<v Speaker 1>to the hoop, he's a good passer, he just can't

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<v Speaker 1>shoot deep, and you know, we go, how can he

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<v Speaker 1>be an All Star? So it's a very valid point

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<v Speaker 1>as particularly when you look at Ben Simmons, because you

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<v Speaker 1>look at him and people are still and I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia area, still I live here, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>the team that I follow that most of my conversations

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<v Speaker 1>with my friends and people are are about the Sixers,

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<v Speaker 1>and specifically usually about Ben Simmons. I've kind of given

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<v Speaker 1>up on that thought that he's going to add this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not going to happen. This is what he is,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're always going to view him as a guy

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<v Speaker 1>as a result that's lacking this one skill that a

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter player needs in the NBA now, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to beat you from anywhere on the floor. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get the superstar status in today's game unless

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<v Speaker 1>you have that. So I think that's a very valid

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<v Speaker 1>point about Magic. The one thing about Magic guy will say,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the type of guy that could probably

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<v Speaker 1>add it, adapt to it a little bit better than

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons certainly has been willing to even compromise at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's actually regressed in terms of his willingness

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<v Speaker 1>to look at that shot from fifteen feet much less

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<v Speaker 1>the three point line. Could you help Lonzo Ball? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying fix, could you help Ben Simmons? Maybe not fix?

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<v Speaker 1>No question in my mind. You know, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>that these guys they spent money, the teams have spent money.

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<v Speaker 1>All these guys now have shooting coaches they work out

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<v Speaker 1>with in the summer. There's no question I've done it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not done it with a guy at that level

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, but I've done it with countless players,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a process that you go through, and

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I think there is just if you can get a

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>guy to focus on two or three things. And I

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.159
<v Speaker 1>think there's about maybe literally ten to twelve things that

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I could talk about ad nauseum what goes into it,

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the mechanics of it. But you can't overwhelm a guy

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>because what's going to happen If you give someone too much.

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>They're going to end up not having success early and

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 1>they're going to go right back to their old habits

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>because that's where they're comfortable. So you've got to break

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<v Speaker 1>it down to two or three things. And each guy

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>is different. It might be something different with that particular player,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do think there's a way to break through

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<v Speaker 1>that barrier mentally and get them to buy into two

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>or three things from a mechanic standpoint and help guys.

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any question about it. I can

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>sit and look. It's the one thing I've been good

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<v Speaker 1>at in my life is doing that, and I know

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>how to teach it. I know how to communicate it

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>in a way that maybe they've never heard before. So yeah,

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm confident that I could do something like that. And

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 1>I was always taught that you start about three feet

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 1>out from the basket, just underneath, and get your form,

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and then back up. Make ten in a row, Make

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 1>ten and a row, ten and row, ten and row.

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Get to the free throw line, make ten in a row,

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and then you get to the top of the key.

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's the progression. Just get your form, get the feel,

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>get the release, and then you can kind of build

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>up your confidence. But you know, you watch Lonzo Ball.

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>He runs away from shooting free throws at the end

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>of a game, he's got a wide open three. How

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>did he get to that point in his career. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I will give him credit because when he came into

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<v Speaker 1>the league, I had never seen any player shoot a

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 1>basketball the way that he did. A right handed player

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.239
<v Speaker 1>releasing the ball from his left eye, suck it. I

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>had never seen anything like it. And as a result,

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 1>he's a guy with great vision. He's a good defender.

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>So he has all these skills that help you win.

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>But that was a big problem, and I said, well,

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>there's no way he can ever shoot a mid range shot.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.880
<v Speaker 1>How can you shoot a shot going to your right,

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>your strong hand have to stop and bring the ball

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>back to the area where the defender has chased you from.

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Can't happen. As a result, he never really takes a

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>mid range shot. Now, I will give him credit his

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>stroke and release. It's night and day from when he

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>came into the league. He's now at least a viable

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 1>three point shooter. He's a threat from out there, and

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you play against with Zion and Brandon Ingram, you're gonna

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>have to do it. He's at it. I give him

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of credit. He put the work in. Very

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:22.959
<v Speaker 1>few guys that have had that much success to that

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:24.919
<v Speaker 1>point in their life would be willing to put the

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<v Speaker 1>time in. And I think that's where Ben Simmons, I

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>think you can absolutely critique him. That's not important enough

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 1>to him. So I will give Lonzo Ball credit that

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he's gotten it to that point. How he ever got

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<v Speaker 1>a stroke that looked like that in the first place,

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.399
<v Speaker 1>that's beyond me. I don't know. How anybody along the

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<v Speaker 1>way didn't stop that at a very young age and say,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, what is this. You're the only person

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>on earth who's ever shot a basketball that way. But

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant does start on the left side and brings

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it over. Now it's not as pronounced. It's not like

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>a windshiew wiper with Lonzo ball. But you know Durant,

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I always tell people ball that you know, like a

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>golf swing, don't look at everything until the point of impact,

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Like where are you with club and the ball? And

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing when you shoot, however you get there,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it look like when you end up releasing

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the shot and the great point? And Durant ends up

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>in perfect position. He may not start, but he ends

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>up in a perfect position. He absolutely does. And you're right,

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and guys are going to get it there differently. And

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>also I will say to something to younger players, those

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>aren't necessarily the guys you want to emulate, like like,

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>for instance, Dirk Navsky is one of the greatest shooters

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 1>in NBA history. I would never advise a player that

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I was working with to shoot the ball with a

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty four foot arc. I mean the distance that drk

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Navski's ball travels from his fingertip to the rim maybe

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the greatest of any player in history that was a

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>good shooter. That means there's there's far less margin for

0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>error because of the distances traveling. But he a freak.

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant is a freak. So what you want to

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>what I want to try to do with guys is look,

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>regardless of what feels comfortable to you, how you're getting

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it up there. Bottom line is by the time you

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>get to just before release, it should look the same

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>with everybody if you are going to be a really

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>good shooter. I think one of the things that I've

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>noticed with players, they have a really difficult time getting

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball to transfer from their entire hand to their

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 1>fingertips before the release, and that's a big problem that

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>guys just never seem to be able to break through.

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>They also have a hard time dan having their wrist

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and elbow lock at exactly the same time. Some guys

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>never get the full extension, like Zion Williamson will be

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a great example of that, and he can make an

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>occasional three, but can you imagine if he ever felt

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>comfortable taking that shot with the amount of distance that

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>people have to give him because he's so explosive. I

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know he's gonna get there because he doesn't extend

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>his left arm. Ben Simmons is the same way. His

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>wrist never makes it to this position. So they're little things.

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And look, part of it is the player. How much

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>repetition are you willing to put into this? He's Tim

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Legler ESPN NBA analyst. Yet. I don't know if you

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>knew this, but we had Ray Allen in the studio.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>This was I don't know, a couple of years ago,

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and Ray had the ball on the palm of his hand.

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>He was just holding it, and I corrected him. I said,

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Ray and his look. I don't know why I did it, Tim,

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>but I did. Here's here's maybe the greatest shooter, one

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest shooters. I mean, it's like critiquing Warren

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Buffett on investment portfolio. And I said, I said, Ray,

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you got the ball on your palm of your hand.

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>And I was always taught you don't have the ball

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>on the palm of your hand. Was I wrong to

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>critique Ray Allen? Uh No, No, in the context that

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.959
<v Speaker 1>that would be a great segment that's that's hilarious. But

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy like that, like, for me, he was the

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>greatest shooter that I had ever seen for probably about

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a decade until Steph Curry came along. Miss Steph Curry's

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>taken the art of shooting to a I'm not sure

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it will ever be replicated. Honestly. He's a once in

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a lifetime players and he's you know, I do think this, Dan,

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I do think there's a generation of players that Steph

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Curry has helped, and I know the concept of the

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>game maybe and philosophically, offensively it's hurt some levels and

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>some teams and some players. It's also helped guys because

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole lot of kids out there. They looked

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>at a guy that's six foot four, slightly built, not

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of muscle definition, and he simply made himself

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this good through skill repetition. Because I think Steph Curry

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>might be the greatest combination of the three skill elements

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>of the game past dribble shoot that we've ever seen.

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he is the highest combination of those three things.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And it was simply done through repetition. And you don't

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have to be a physical freak to do it.

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>So I think that gives some kids actual hope and

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>it makes them go work on the game a little

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>bit harder, which is a good thing. Are you all

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>in on the Jazz As far as being an NBA

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>title contender? This is not something that's a great story

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>or a great start. I'm watching them deep dive every

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>night again last night, perfect example. Here's what they do

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>differently than anybody else. And I do compare them to

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors a little bit when when we first that

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>splashed on the scene, We've never really seen that kind

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>of ball movement, player movement, quick decisive reads and actions

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and then ending up in the hands of a great shooter.

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Now they don't have step and play on their team,

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>but they've got a stable of guys that can do it.

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>But the mentality is exactly the same. Everything is quick

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and decisive. It's all based off a high ball screen

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a dive by Gobert Favors. And now we're just going

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to get you to react to that because if you

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>know they're going to score at the rim, and now

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>we've got super high IQ players, the ball is going

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to start hopping around a perimeter. We're always going to

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>make the extra pass and you're not going to catch

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>up to the basketball. And it's a beautiful thing to

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>watch because for me, that's a great offense. Looks like

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I know we were talking about the three points out

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and the heavy reliance on it. Well, when you get

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>looks that good, you should play that way. Because they're

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>making eighteen of these things at night. And you think

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>about the Warriors Dan when Steph first flashed on the scene,

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>we thought that was the greatest shooting team we'd ever seen.

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>They were making thirteen at night. This team is making

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>eighteen a game. That's how different this is. So yes,

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is they defend. This isn't a

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>one trick pony where they've got to outscore you. They

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>will defend on nights where they're not shooting well. And

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I think they're legit title contender. Absolutely would not be

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>shocked to see them, say, beat the Clippers in the

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>second round if it ends up that way, and end

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>up with the Lakers in the conference final. Okay, talk

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Laker fans off the ledge, Well, look here's the thing

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you have. Obviously you're missing a D and Street or

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that that's enormous, but here's the other thing. They're a

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>defending champion. Go back through history defending champions. You get

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to mid season, there's typically going to be a foot

0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>off the gas a little bit mentality, because the freshness

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>of the season is in your rear view mirror. And

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>they retired because they had a short turnaround. But the

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>adrenaline of a new year gets you going. That's gone.

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>The playoffs are too far away. It's cold as hell

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>anywhere you go right now to play. That's a downer.

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>The skies are gray, you're in a rut. You're also shorthanded.

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>It's the perfect time mentally for them to sort of

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>be going through the motions a little bit. And that's

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 1>what I see in this team. There is absolutely nothing

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to worry about. As long as Anthony Davis comes back

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>healthy and stays back healthy, this team is going to

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the NBA Finals. Utah might have something to say about that.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not as definitive on that as I was

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>before the year. I made a joke when they added

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Arrow and Streeter, that's just make it a ten game

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>season and play to play the finals, because nobody can

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>beat that team. I don't feel as definitive about that

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>now because of the jazz particularly, but still if you've

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>got a d and you've got that kind of versatility

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>with Lebron and ad and they're so unique and the

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>problems they caused for you on both ends. For me,

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it's still the Lakers, so nothing to worry about. It's

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>typical midseason. Dulgrums for defending champion. That's shorthanded. Leg's great

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to catch up with you again. We appreciate your time

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 1>as always, always great. There. That's Tim Legler from the

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Mother's Ship. We'll take a break. We got some really

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>interesting news regarding Russell Wilson. Big news. Have that for

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0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Just saw this story on the athletic website. McLevin just

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:51.280
<v Speaker 1>brought it to my attention. Russell Wilson's camp this, according

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to Pro Football Focus, has approached the Seahawks about a

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>potential trade. Now, let me give you a couple of

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>key lines in this article by The Athletic. And this

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>started on our show when Russ came in and he

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>was the NFL Man of the Year, and I just

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>started talking to about a number of times he's been sacked,

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden he opened the door.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I said, do you have impact? You want input? And

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>he goes, why don't, But I'd like and then all

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden it opened the door. And then we

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>started talking. And then we had a source who then

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>was listening to that interview who got in touch with

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 1>us and said, Hey, what Russ is saying is this

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>relationship is not sustainable, that this won't continue this way.

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And I thought, okay, and then it kind of turned

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the NFL on its ear because then people thought, well,

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>as Russ available, now what is he saying? Here is

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the key paragraphs in the article in The Athletic.

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Before the Thursday night game against Arizona, Wilson met with

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>his coaches. For some time, Wilson has sought, even pushed

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>for influence within the organization regarding scheme and personnel. In

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the meeting, he outlined his own ideas for how to

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>fix the offense. His suggestions were dismissed. Multiple sources told

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.399
<v Speaker 1>The Athletic another reminder to Wilson that the Seahawks did

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>not see him the same way he saw himself, as

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>a player who had earned greater control over his situation,

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>his future, his legacy. Russell Wilson stormed out of the room.

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>That is just part of the article here, And I

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know if Russ once out, But according to Pro

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Football Focus, Russell Wilson's camp has approached the Seahawks for

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>a potential trade, and then they go on to say

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>potential destinations including Dolphins, Jets, Saints, and Raiders. I don't

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>know if they're reporting anything. You know, when this started,

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>when Russ was on our show and I wondered if

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he wanted out, The first team I brought up to

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>dan Ens was the Raiders because I thought, all right, Russ,

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>his wife Sierra, they could be the face of Vegas

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>there and John Gruden always loves the quarterback he doesn't have.

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>You could get Russell Wilson in there. We've always thought that,

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, Derek Carr, he's the quarterback now with the Raiders,

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>but not necessarily for the future. I don't know if

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>any of this comes to fruition. But I do think

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>that there was a backstory that Russ had with Seattle.

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why Seattle was upset. According to my source,

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>that Russ went public with this. He tried to do

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>it privately. He tried to have input, and I was

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>not given a heads up. I had no prior knowledge

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>of Russ not having any input. And the reason why

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I brought it up, I was not tipped off in

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>any way that, Hey, if you ask Russ, he's going

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to tell you this what I brought up. And I

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>was trying to connect the dots. Is Russell Wilson was

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>with his wife and the commissioner at the Super Bowl

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's being honored for the NFL Man of the

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Year and he's watching Tom Brady in front of him.

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>So Tom Brady is the goat, and then you got

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes who is the future. And Russ is going,

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>what am I doing? I haven't been to a conference

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>title game in seven years? And I think he saw

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the NFL moving past him. I mean, when you think

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:28.839
<v Speaker 1>about it, you know we talk about quarterbacks, you now,

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought Russ was going to be the MVP last year,

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and he started out that way, and then something happened

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 1>during the season. It felt like they relied on the

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the home run ball. You know, Pete Carroll still loves

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.959
<v Speaker 1>to run the football, play great defense, all of those things.

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>They don't have the Legion of Boom anymore, and they

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>don't have Marshawn Lynch. And I always thought that they

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 1>relied on Russell to kind of, hey, all else fails.

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Just asked Russ to win the game for us. But

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, if he's watching Tom Brady. Tom Brady

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>leaves New Wing, Glynn goes to Tampa and then brings

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:07.439
<v Speaker 1>in some players Gronk, Leonard Fournette, Antonio Brown, and Russ

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is probably going, why is it I can't have that

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>same kind of power. I'm younger than Tom. I'm a

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>decade younger than Tom. I should be able to have

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that kind of input. Now, that's prior to the interview

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that we did, that he was having these concerns or

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>issues with the Seahawks, and now you have this whatever

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 1>was going on. And then my source who followed up

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>was correct, because I had people questioning that, like, oh,

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>where's that coming from the source that I told me

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that was not affiliated with Russ or the Seahawks. It

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:46.439
<v Speaker 1>was somebody who said, hey, this is real, this relationship

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>is not sustainable in its current form. Well, I didn't

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>know what was happening prior to and now we know.

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole lot more going on with Russ and

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks. Yeah, mclub. Yeah, they talk a lot about

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the interview with you in here. There's two paragraphs to

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.280
<v Speaker 1>talk about you as being a result of the Super

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Bowl that Monday, he came on and expressed his frustration.

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>But the other teams came from Jason lockcom for that

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>week too that he said the Raiders, Dolphins, Saints, and

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Jets were among them. So this story didn't break that

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>aspect of it. I guess lacom For had wrote a

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:24.240
<v Speaker 1>column and speculated that I don't know how short it was. Well,

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>you might have just gauged interest there. But you know,

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought after hearing Russ and then we thought, gosh,

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>could he get traded? And I was wondering could he

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>get traded? And what about the Raiders? You know, if

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the Jets are in there or the Dolphins in there? Okay,

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Saints sort of makes me, Yeah, the Saints that I

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>still feel like the Saints and Sean Payton waiting for

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Sean you know, for Drew Brees to retire. That I

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't rule out Sean Payton doing something, whether it's Russell

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Wilson or somebody else. But this is it's a big deal.

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a big yeah, po. Miami Dolphins have a lot

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of picks. They have a young quarterback on a rookie

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:07.280
<v Speaker 1>contract that they're not possibly not sold on. That seems

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>like a destination that Russ and Missus Russ would like. Yeah,

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>generally a good franchise, Yeah, competitive franchise, Eli. Yeah, but

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you're not even the best team in your own division. Well,

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean I look at them now. They're the third

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.760
<v Speaker 1>best team in their division, probably behind the Rams and Niners.

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, Pauli's already got tomorrow's pull question ready today.

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>That's that's how efficient we are, that's how that's how

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>researched we are prepared. Who will be traded before next season?

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson both neither right? Sure? Why not? Yeah, mcclub.

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>There's another part in here that you've talked about before

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that the Seahawks looked at Josh Allen and Mahomes in

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the drafts eight. Okay, they loved Josh Allen. I have

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>that on great authority. They loved Josh Allen, and I

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 1>think that could they have done something, they would have

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>done something with Josh Allen. I don't know how they

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>could have made that happen. I'm just saying. I think

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>if you gave Seattle to do over, they would have

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>tried to have trade Russ and then taken Josh Allen. Yeah.

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I think Russell Wilson ends up a saint. Oh he

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>is a saint in our eyes in more than one Oh. Okay, yeah,

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees retires like russ Us. Come on, yeah, Paul,

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 1>is it my birthday? We talked barbecue J. J. Watt

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and Russell Wilson. Is there a Rush album dropping anytime soon?

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Is Walter Payton Beck? If only WHOA? If only Russell

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Wilson would change his first name to Rush Wilson. Oh,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.960
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