WEBVTT - ADOREE' JACKSON 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.640 This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.920 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.920 Steve Smith Senior and I'm Little John, and this is 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:16.320 cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. Let's 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.880 get down to do it. Good do it. We asked 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.160 the questions you always want to know, but no one 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:29.600 ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard about it, 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:39.240 then we're about to let you. Now it's all. We 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.880 got a special guest today. You know, some people say 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.080 here returned specialists. As a former wide receiver, I would 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:49.320 say he is a corner that is very much always 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:55.120 in your pocket, right nicknamed sweet Pee, but also uh 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.720 here in North Carolina and near South Carolina. They sometimes 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.400 get it twisted when you as he's from the real 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.600 USC University in southern California. Welcome to the cut to 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:12.119 a podcast A Dory Jackson like like we said that, 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:19.720 welcome man, welcome a man, appreciate you. I think this 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.400 is the first time I realized that. And maybe it's 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.800 just a the camera you kind of kind of got 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.560 the Kendrick Lamarlak going on, or does Kendrick look like 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.800 you You know you ain't ain't the first out. You 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.520 heard that. Now, I might say he could be a cousin. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.720 You know what I'm saying, a little relative. Look good kid, 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.839 man said you I ain't mad at it, the fact 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.120 that I don't want to go crash said for sure. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.920 Well man, let's get go ahead and get started. Um, 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.360 we just do do a little ice breakers, man, dickies 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:02.840 or overalls. I'm gonna go some dickies. Yeah, see that's that. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.240 That's that calie right there. Yeah, I got I got 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.320 me two pairs, just in the back of the closet, 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.880 just thinking, never never know when you have to outd 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.720 The problem is what comes with those dickies is never 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:22.760 a good conversation because that's that old that's coming out. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.560 I thought, first of all, if I thought some dickies 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.960 and I'm and I'm chilling like it's gonna be some shorts. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.160 But if I thought them some dickie pants, all of 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:38.600 a sudden you start hearing. Right, if it's a car 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.480 full lovers with dickies and we come to your house, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:50.560 button up, but it's gonna be a little conversation and 0:02:50.680 --> 0:03:01.880 a whole down. Oh man, hey man, what's your favorite color? 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:06.440 And why? Oh man, my favorite color is red. Um. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.480 I don't know. I just grew up just liking red 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.119 um pretty much my favorite color. My family members don't 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:18.919 like me that my hair color, but red. Alright, alright, um, 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.679 since you know, obviously we'll get into where you're from, 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.040 but you know coming from back home, man, I gotta 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:29.560 I gotta ask you. Um, you got three choices, Ragel Waters, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:34.280 Magic Mountain. Uh you're in the league now, so you can. 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.640 But we're not gonna throw out the Disney Uh not 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.000 you very form. Which three are you going to? I 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.680 do those three choices, I'm gonna say raging Waters, My 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.760 mom gonna pull up the reging waters. Um, just because 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.120 I actually see when I was a kid, see it 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.360 on TV, the stuff on TV, like the water partial 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.480 goes to the Disney Land scourging them cruises. I was 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.800 a foks I could ever get to to like actually 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.640 been on the slide and some water something like that. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.839 So that's probably why I would choose because or mom 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:02.080 and nostalgica. When I used to see that growing up, 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.680 like that was a close thing I can reach. But 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.480 now it's like you're saying you're gonna attain that now. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.400 But I said Reginald Waters probably be the thing that 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.360 I gravitate to. You ain't been lately, huh No, I 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.320 haven't been since I was young. Yeah, it ain't as 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.480 big as it it was when we were young to 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:23.920 It's actually a little bit disapporting a minute. Like, Bro, 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.920 I took my kids. I talked it up. I took 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:34.440 my kids. Wassappointed? Man, I was disappointed. I took him. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.159 It was probably like seven eight, I don't know, probably 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.839 about ten years ago. He talked it up. Right. We 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.400 was coming back home. Man, We're going to Raging Waters. Man, 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.760 I'm telling you, man, we got that thing. I walked 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.320 in and I was like, this is it time to go? 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.600 I mean it was literally it was like, you know, 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.719 you talk about a big old mancher sixty thousand square 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.479 feet walking that thing, but but eight hundred and sixty 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.599 four square feet man. So as I walked in, I 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.520 was out. But it was it was good. It was 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.240 The kids make fun of me till this day. Is 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:14.200 it as nice at Raging Waters? Dad? They're gonna get 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:18.120 your hard time and show show. Um, But let's get 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.920 into it, man. Um. You know, tell us where you're 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.400 from in the place you call your hometown. Uh So, 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.839 I grew up in Illinois, so a place called East St. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.800 Louis and Belleville. So UM. Growing up, I stayed in 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.039 East St. Louis UH, and then I went to school 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:32.880 out in the place called Belleville. So I went to 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.360 UH West a man on the MegaR School, Cintra Drina High. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.119 Then went to a school called Belle East after school 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.880 and everything. But I was always at East St. Louis 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.800 with my my family, my brothers, hanging out with them. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.800 Then when I got into my somewhere high school, I 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.400 moved out to California, UM and went to Sarah. But 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.839 I feel like East Louis my my home home. Yeah, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.440 and I hear in California's like my home. A boy 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.240 from home. I took people like I was born in Illinois, 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:02.680 but I felt like I was raised because I came 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.000 out here when I skipped team in l A and 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:11.520 so I feel a kid. Yeah, exactly. Was just about you. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.840 Literally the living embodiment of the movie The Wood. Only 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.240 he was from North Carolina. Shameless, That's what I'm saying. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.159 So it really I've seen that movie when I first 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.880 got out here and then actually living it's like, oh damn, 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.400 this is this is for real. So which one do you? 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:28.640 Rend I can tell? Uh? I mean I do both. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.440 I always go back home, but I mean you can't. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.679 You can't beat the weather this way, um and everything. 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.320 I went to s C. So I feel like, uh, 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.239 like I said, that was why I was raised kinda 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.159 like that's why I met all the people that transformed 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.159 my life from what I knew to give me to 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.040 where I was. So they helped me and pay me 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.240 the way in a certain in certain sense, I mean, 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:54.080 so live living basically until you know, young team, a 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:59.120 young teenager, you know it shaped you obviously you said 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:04.920 it shaped you in that a. But I'm imagining Illinois 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.839 gets some credit because you you know, you never were 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.560 a finished product. We're never a finished product really until 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.680 you know, until we're in the dirt ultimately, so we're 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:20.040 always growing and evolving, you know, some of us, not everybody, right, 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:26.600 So that's just that's just how it goes. But how 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.960 different were the two for you because you were at 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.240 of age you know, like my my my youngest who's 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:38.480 who will be eight? You know he we live here 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:42.760 in North Carolina, but he remembers right now and each 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.680 year goes by, he remembers less and less, but right 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.160 now he's still he still remembers Baltimore. He still has 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:54.880 that part of his life where you can't remember. I mean, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:08:01.640 technically seven years old. You you technically you haven't even 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.880 lived half of your life one or the other. You 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.480 know a lot of your roots, a lot of the 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.160 things that makes you who you are, even with going 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.960 in she even moving to l A, A lot of 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:19.600 it would start when I started in Illinois, right, So 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.240 that's why I said that from like l A my 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.120 home away from home. But like you said, like growing up, 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.520 I feel like it taught me how to maneuver and 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.600 how to l A or Illinois in Illinois, So I 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.360 feel like it made like like the transition of part 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:34.959 a lot easier. So when I moved out there, I 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.600 stayed with my sister, My parents stayed back home, so 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.720 I had to go from everything that I was raised 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.679 brought up on, learning you know your p's and Q 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.840 dot in your eyes, crossing your ties, the street smart part, 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.480 and then when I'm out of my own somewhere else, 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.400 still trying to have that and remember that. So I 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.560 feel like it made the transition easier in l A. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.040 Like knowing who the mess with, who not the mess with, 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.640 just being a peep be behind the scenes and seeing 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.360 and thinking before I even speak a move. I feel 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.920 like my my dad and my older brother really helped me, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.960 So I guess grow faster. It's got It's like crazy, 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:08.640 like they didn't know this was gonna happen in my life. 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.640 But at the same time they he was preparing me 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.480 before I even knew this was gonna happen. So when 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.280 I went out there in fifteen, is like, all right, 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.920 I had a good understand of I don't say life, 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.679 but loring. I mean it can. It can hit you 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.320 anywhere in any form. But being able to have an 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.920 older brother dad, I can just call up on there. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:27.800 Maybe I feel like I'm in some trouble and need 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.679 some help with something. They can help me. But saying 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.000 like you know right for wrong, like we already talked 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:33.360 to you. You You know how, you know what it is 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.600 and what it ain't, so you can you can you 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.920 can survive out that way. So UM, them being able 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.680 to trust me and think that I was responsible enough 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.000 and ready enough to move that life. Um, I feel 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.760 like that helped me out a lot. You've got a 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.640 deep relationship with your family. Would you tell us about 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.320 that bond and it's importance. Oh? Man, I just feel like, 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.240 you know, I watched them TV shows as a kid 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.880 and actually seeing it in my household, like my mo, 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.240 my dad there, I got an older brother, older sister, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.959 and you know, going to church every Sunday even if 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.120 I didn't want to. You're a kid. You want to 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.280 hang out, dude, you want to do like they's telling me, like, 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.040 all right, you can go out, but you gotta wake 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.640 up in the morning, or my friends come over, make 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.400 sure they've bring their church clothes. They want to stay like, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.280 you know what I'm saying. So that's really how it was. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:20.920 And I feel like my mom instilled a lot of 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.400 a lot of faith, uh, a lot of people person 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:29.120 being respectable and treating up any person like human first 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.920 and going that way. So I feel like just for 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.320 having both both backgrounds, my mom being from l A, 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:35.960 you know what I'm saying, So she taught me a 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.600 lot of the l A stuff. With my dad being 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.520 from East St. Louis and then going out to l 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.080 A and meeting my mom and they're coming back to 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.640 eat St. Louis. So I had a little bit of 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.160 vestboath worlds in a sense, and I feel like just 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.480 seeing them. And you know, I was the youngest, So 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.760 I was seven years younger than my brother and fourteen 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.080 years younger than my sister. So I technically grew up 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.120 pretty much like by myself. But now when my older 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.880 brother was kind of like the father figged two at 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.320 the same time, even though he's my old brother, making 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:02.960 strong with him all the time and keep me right, 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.920 keep me aline. So I think that's my my I'm 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.600 so tight with my family because I was so young, 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.000 but I always wanted to hang out with him because 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.320 I don't want to hang out with nobody else because 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.200 that's all I knew. Um, so just at sports growing up, 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:15.720 We're trying to hang out with my brother, I'm seven 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.240 heat fourteen trying to play sports with him, or my 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.079 sister was doing something when she was in college. I'm 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.640 trying to hang out with older guys from eighteen nineteen 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.720 years old. So, um, just them show me the ropes 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.520 and being loved and treat me the way that they 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.000 treated me. I think that's what made us so close 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:35.240 to this day. Oh, just that old soul. Yeah, what 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.280 was your dad like as a father. You know that, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.240 and how did he impact uh, you just individually as 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.160 as you know as a as a man you are 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:49.080 today now man, super strict, But what's super strict? Though? Good? 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.160 Gives understand that until later, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.840 give us detail on super strict because he was cool though, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.040 like everybody knows, I had the type of dad with 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.440 everybody loved my dad. But as a kid, it's my dad. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.960 I'm saying, I don't know my dad like I know 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.000 my dad. You know what I'm saying. So um, But 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.360 as I got older and obviously when I moved away, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.320 and it's like, man, all those that's you taught me 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.640 at a young age, like I made it to understanding now, 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.360 But when I'm able to maneuver and do what I 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.240 gotta do, it's like, oh, this is what you meant 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.680 by that. He's always But like anything that you've done, 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.640 I probably did before. So I don't think you slick. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.160 Just that in the third saying, I don't want you 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.559 to follow the same steps some mistakes that I made, 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.320 So he let me do what I want to do. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.000 But at the same time, before I even had to 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.200 make a decision, it was like all right, I know 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.440 the path and which ways it can go, and trying 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.120 to figure it out. Obviously know being annoyed and having 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.120 the blessed of the Lord be able to protect me 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.120 at all times was being like the same thing can 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.960 go south an any given time. But I feel like 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.120 my dad was just an old school dad, like you said, 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.400 an old soul, and it was only tough, but he 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.000 wanted the best for me, so um, you know, always 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.720 at all the games, I always making sure that he 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.319 was there for me when I needed, taking me to practices, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:00.280 um in the backyard with me. Um like my if 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:01.880 y'all know, like he barbecue is all the time. But 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.920 I started when I was in Pop Warners, my first 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.640 ever part wanted season. He'll put the barbecue grill on 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.480 the back of the truck and we're going to the 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.920 games away home and he barbecue. And so I think, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.120 just him, I want to say, living us living the 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.839 same dream together. Obviously he didn't never force me to 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.439 do anything, but it's me forcing him. Like when I 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.800 wonder if football, I used to tell him all the 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.280 time for like six months, and I finally found I 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.400 was serious about it, and he finally came into football. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.719 So it was never him forcing. It was always him 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.680 to let me make my own decisions. And he's always saying, well, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.120 I was just waiting on you to tell me something. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.080 So that's how I learned every young gage like it's 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:37.599 really about what I want to do and how I 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.640 want to go about it. And he was gonna support me. 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.040 I no matter what decision I wanta with with your 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:47.360 with your dad, you know, barbecue Andy, I'm assuming he 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.200 had a business, right man, take take us through that, 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.600 you know with your dad, you know, being a cook 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.880 and and and just going through that as a young man. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.600 I would imagine it did have an impact on you 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.520 a little bit, right, Yeah, I didn't really understand the 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.520 sense of like I was for my dad like twenty 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.520 four seven. So it was just from the sense where 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.600 like we'll go pick up the spices and make his 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.280 own spices. So we'll drive all the way the same 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.160 little wits, go to space called to Lower get all 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.640 the spices. We go restaurant deepot get all the different 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.000 stuff that he needs for that. He was on barbecue saw. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.080 So it was actually me just seeing the ropes and 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.360 seeing how everything is dumb, and I mean that's my 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.120 first person that probably show me like how to get 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.680 to it, like how to hustle in and make money. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.920 So seeing his drive and seeing how hard he worked, 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.080 not just at his regular job, but just trying to 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.160 serve people, that's that's just what he loved to do 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.240 people person So I feel like that was one of 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.240 the things that I gravitated too, is the most Like 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.080 although I thought he was super strict, man was a 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.400 good dude. That hard and everything he did was for 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.320 for a reason and for a purpose whether you knew 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.120 it or not. But then the day you can see 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.120 the other people like impacted by and infected by the 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.000 things in the cities he made. So that barbecue thing 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.240 was cool because if somebody else's dad wasn't there, like 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.840 he can be like that father figure somebody else barbecue 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.800 and making him laugh, joking and stuff like that and 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.520 everybody having a good time. So I feel like that 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.320 was like the the glue and all my teams that 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.320 we played with, everybody was like family oriented. You know, 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:26.400 I appreciate it that favorite dish or favorite barbecue. You know, 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.200 what's what's your what's your favorite meal? You know, Pops 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.600 can't Pops can't get down with. Uh, it makes makes 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.440 turkey legs. I probably everybody go turkey leg cut or 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.040 go to Dasney work at a turkey leg. That's pretty good. Um. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.160 If I think called mansa troli that he makes it 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.360 kind of like who ziya, but it's really he said, 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:48.760 who what was it? I's got the turkey league. Maschli 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:53.280 is like, h it's kind of pasta dish. Um. It's like, yeah, 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.880 I don't know how to explain it, but it um 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.520 off the chain. I love his chicken wings. He makes 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.680 ribblits turkey, Uh, turkey ribs, I mean the whole ship back. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:08.600 But anytime barbacue. Growing up, I've heard of turkey. I've 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.280 never had them. I've never had turkey. We're gonna have 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.360 to get you something I've heard. He said. It's like 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.680 see your face. I'm like, yeah, he never tapped. I 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:24.880 saw that up in there. Yeah, I've heard of it. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.480 I was I was dissected a turkey, you know. I 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.360 was like, I didn't say the turkey turkey's ribs. Yeah 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:39.160 I didn't say that. Some baby backs right there. But yeah, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.400 he throw anything on the grill. Man. That's that's one 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.000 of the cool things about it. He wouldn't even tell 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.160 me what it was though, Like I just tried to 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.280 real quick, I'll try. That's probably rabbit, I was dear 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.240 that might have been the squirrel. All this some short 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:56.280 this agan anything sure shot man, anything can get work 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:01.520 on this girl. That squirrel, rabbit getting worried. We're gonna 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.679 get you right now. We don't get your right tell me, 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.600 ain't rabbit. We're gonna, we're gonna. We're gonna just say 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:13.280 it's chicken, Okay, it dude, tastes like chicken. Yeah, I'm 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.560 not sure I had duck, but I haven't had rabbit. 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.080 I had. Uh what's the difference when them swim when 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:26.479 them don't. It's a huge difference in my baby, So 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.920 you you moving, you move out to you move out 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.800 to l A. Take us through that transition. You know, 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.360 how did you how did you come to the conclusion 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.480 to to to move to l A and and and 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:45.320 the regions? Why? Uh man, crazy story. I was eighth 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:50.800 great year, I loan jumped eleven and so somebody was talking. 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.960 My brother in law was talking to this this coach 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.600 at uh Sarah at the time was the high school, 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.920 went to him he was like, man, you know my brother, 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.439 my freshman go by. I went twenty three eleven, so 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.480 my freshman and he's like, oh, I gotta my little 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.760 brother drop twenty three eleven and um high school coach like, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.800 now you're maybe twenty ft three eleven and just not 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.840 no clinker level. And he was like, all right, let 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.719 meet the kid. And I grew up a huge SC 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.800 fan and so my my brother in law was like, yeah, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.320 let's go to this SC camp. So I'm like, all right, 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:21.720 that ain't nothing like I go to that C camp. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.159 That's cool. So I go out there, I perform and 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:25.679 it's asked me where I was from. My I'm from 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.639 um from Illinois. And the guy, his name coach bigs Uh. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.639 The trains me still to this day. It was my 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.720 long jump coach in high school and he, uh, you know, 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.840 took me to Sarah. I was like, yeah, let's go, 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.560 you know, walk around see all this and think about 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.399 transferring my mom. I'm like, I'm not coming out here 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.600 like my parents stay back home. This don't even make sense, 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.480 but you know, I'm just good sport following the be 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.000 like all right, that's cool, that's cool. This was in 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.720 June a month go by, I go back home. I'm 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.479 actually at my football camp. But the high school I'm 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.280 supposed to be attending, um getting ready. We just had camp. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.960 They called my dad. The schools like get your son's 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.040 supos to transfer? UM. So I just remember hing my dad. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.359 I remember like yesterday my dad voice called me, said 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.320 my full night. I said, Dad, I must be in trouble. 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.439 I never forget that. I'm laying down, like on my 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.240 bed and I heard called my name. I'm like, damn, 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:13.760 I ain't even do nothing. I was trying to think 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:15.320 like did I doing it? Going through your mind like 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.720 what did I do? Or what did he find out? 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.880 That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I just had football camp, 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:22.840 Like we didn't do that crazy up there. So I'm 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.720 like I walked in there and he was like, hey, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:26.879 why is these people calling me? That's first thing. I'm like, 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.639 why these people call him? Like? Who call him? Is 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.600 not the school say he's supposed to transfer? And I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.359 I visited there, but I mean I didn't think I 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.680 was gonna go because we stay out here, like there's 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.920 no way that we're gonna all move and go out 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.040 there and he said, Okay, I think about it. I 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.320 thought that was it. You know. Three days later he 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.119 just told him, like a right back, your bagage is 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.399 gonna stay with your sister. So I remember, like the 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.840 first night I got out there, I was that was 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:52.399 the first and I was like homesick, been away from 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.880 my family for real, like knowing I'll go back home, 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:56.800 like I can spend a night or go someone, I'm 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.240 coming back home. It's the first time that I was there, 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.359 and so I stayed up night and um, I ain't 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.760 I hate it up like it was. I felt like 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.320 it was the worst thing ever. I told my mom, 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.200 my dad, someone, mynor ready to come home, and they're like, no, 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.000 just stick it out, you know, go through it. And 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.360 I think that's what made college so easier as well, 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:15.360 because I was already gone from home when I spit 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.720 to him. Um. But yeah, my first nights there, in 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.840 my first couple weeks, hated it. But meeting the guys 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:23.679 the way I did, it's kind of like you know 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.520 the movie The Wood, Like they took them into their 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.000