WEBVTT - Who Killed the Sheriff Who Killed Billy the Kid?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>On March first, nineteen oh eight, local Las Crusees, New

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico newspapers reported quote Pat F. Garrett fulfilled his own

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<v Speaker 2>prophecy that he would die with his boots on. Garrett

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<v Speaker 2>was killed between ten and eleven o'clock on the road

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<v Speaker 2>to his Bear Canyon ranch at a point five miles

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<v Speaker 2>from Las Cruses, best known as a lawman and the

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<v Speaker 2>slayer of Billy the Kid. Let's meet Pat and talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the events of his unexpected death. Was it self

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<v Speaker 2>defense or maybe a conspiracy. Pat was a high profile

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<v Speaker 2>guy and people had thoughts about what happened, and I

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<v Speaker 2>still do. Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Marian Tremarqui and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Holly Frye. In the Chihuahuan Desert outside of Las Cruces,

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico, is the site where famous law man Pat

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett was killed on February twenty ninth, nineteen oh eight.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll find a plaque under a kreosote bush noting the

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<v Speaker 1>scene of the crime. Pat had a big life on

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<v Speaker 1>the American frontier. He was sheriff of two different counties

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<v Speaker 1>in New Mexico and one of the first collectors of customs.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew President Theodore Roosevelt well and had been to

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<v Speaker 1>the White House on multiple occasions. And as we said,

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<v Speaker 1>he is best known for being the guy who killed

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<v Speaker 1>Billy the Kid. We know his impressive resume, but what

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know is who precisely killed him on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the road that morning in February.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's dive into Pat's life before we talk about his death.

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<v Speaker 2>Born in Alabama on June fifth, eighteen fifty, Patrick Floyd

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<v Speaker 2>Jarvis Garrett was raised on a cotton plantation his father

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<v Speaker 2>had purchased in Louisiana. He left home at about the

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<v Speaker 2>age of seventeen or eighteen, give or take on that.

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<v Speaker 2>With his sites on Texas, Pat wanted to be a

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<v Speaker 2>cowboy and a buffalo hunter. Garrett's whereabouts over his first

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<v Speaker 2>several years away from home are I mean, honestly, they're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty vague, but historians believe he did go to Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>where he did hunt buffalo and was probably a cattle rancher.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen seventy nine, he married Juanita Martinez, but tragedy

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<v Speaker 1>struck when his bride collapsed at their wedding ceremony, and

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<v Speaker 1>she died of unknown causes the next day. Pat then

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<v Speaker 1>settled into a job as sheriff of Lincoln County, New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>at a time when the Lincoln County Wars were happening

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<v Speaker 1>that was primarily a conflict between rival cattle ranchers in

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<v Speaker 1>the territory, And then on January fourteenth, eighteen eighty, he

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<v Speaker 1>remarried to a Pollinaria Gutierrez, known to friends as Pauline.

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<v Speaker 1>The couple had eight children together, Ada, Dudley, Elizabeth, Annie, Patrick, Paula, Oscar,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jarvis.

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<v Speaker 2>July fourteenth, eighteen eighty one is the day for which

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Garrett will always be known. It's the day he

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<v Speaker 2>led a posse to Fort Sumner, where he had tracked

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<v Speaker 2>the infamous outlaw William H. Bonnie, best known as Billy

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<v Speaker 2>the Kid, and fatally shot him. Despite his successes in

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<v Speaker 2>fame in Lincoln County, Pat didn't seek reelection as sheriff

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<v Speaker 2>the next year and instead moved to Texas, where he

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<v Speaker 2>ran unsuccessfully for a seat in the state Senate. There

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<v Speaker 2>he became a captain with the Texas Rangers, but he

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<v Speaker 2>stayed for less than a month before heading to Roswell,

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico. In Roswell, Pat became more of a businessman

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<v Speaker 2>than a lawman, having partnerships with three different irrigation companies

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<v Speaker 2>over the next few years.

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<v Speaker 1>But in April of eighteen ninety six, Garrett was once

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<v Speaker 1>again a lawman. He was sheriff of Donia Anna County,

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico, appointed to take over the investigation of the

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<v Speaker 1>disappearance or possible double murder of Colonel Albert Fountain, a

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<v Speaker 1>prominent attorney and politician, and Albert's eight year old son Henry.

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<v Speaker 1>Within two years, Pat had gathered sufficient evidence to get

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<v Speaker 1>warrants to arrest four men, Oliver M Lee, William mcnewe,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Carr, and James Gilliland. The outlaws he implicated for

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<v Speaker 1>those murders were tried, but they were all acquitted, similar

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<v Speaker 1>to Pat's own story. The disappearance of the Fountains has

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<v Speaker 1>puzzled lawmen and historians for more than a century.

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<v Speaker 2>On December sixteenth, nineteen oh one, President Theodore Roosevelt appointed

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<v Speaker 2>Pat to the post of El Paso Customs Agent. He

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<v Speaker 2>was also named one of Roosevelt's so called White House

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<v Speaker 2>gunfighters that was along with former sheriff of Dodge City

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<v Speaker 2>and US Marshal bat Masterson and Ben Daniels, who perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>is best known for serving as a lawman in some

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<v Speaker 2>of the roughest towns in the wild West. He's about

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<v Speaker 2>replaced Garrett with a new collector of customs the following

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<v Speaker 2>term on January second, nineteen oh six.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break here for a word

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<v Speaker 1>from our sponsors. No longer a customs agent, we will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how when Pat went back to work not

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<v Speaker 1>as a lawman but as a rancher, he may have

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<v Speaker 1>kicked off the first event that would ultimately lead to

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<v Speaker 1>his death.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about the death of

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Garrett.

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<v Speaker 1>Following his dismissal from his position in Texas, Pat returned

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<v Speaker 1>to New Mexico to his Bear Canyon ranch, located on

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<v Speaker 1>the east side of the Oregon Mountains. He was broke.

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<v Speaker 1>He owed back taxes and he was in considerable debt,

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<v Speaker 1>and the county had auctioned off his personal possessions to

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<v Speaker 1>satisfy judgments against him. He borrowed a few thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>from rancher William bill Cox, who owned San Augustine Springs ranch.

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<v Speaker 1>Cox was Garrett's neighbor. Garrett also agreed to rent some

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<v Speaker 1>of his land to ranch hand Wayne Brazil, who worked

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<v Speaker 1>for Cox.

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<v Speaker 2>Cox had a criminal history and has always been considered

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<v Speaker 2>one of the possible individuals who was either directly or

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<v Speaker 2>indirectly involved in the murder of Pat Garrett, but his

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<v Speaker 2>involvement is at best unclear. Of course, there are theories

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<v Speaker 2>about Garrett and Cox. One possible motive here is that

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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen ninety nine, Cox had become angry when he

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<v Speaker 2>returned to his ranch one day and found that then

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<v Speaker 2>sheriff Garrett and his deputy had entered his home and

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<v Speaker 2>killed an unarmed man. Another theory regarding Cox and Garrett

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<v Speaker 2>goes like this Garrett was killed because Cox wanted his ranch.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat leased his cattle ranch for a five year term

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<v Speaker 1>to Wayne Brazil and Archie Road, who was Bill Cox's

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<v Speaker 1>brother in law. Wayne and Archie raised sheep, although we

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<v Speaker 1>should note that there are a number of conflicting reports

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<v Speaker 1>that suggest that it was actually goats they were raising,

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<v Speaker 1>But regardless sheeper goats, it did not take long before

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<v Speaker 1>the men were involved in a hot dispute over that lease.

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<v Speaker 1>After signing with Garrett, Brazil then entered into an agreement

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<v Speaker 1>for ranchers JP Turner of Fort Worth, Texas and Carl

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<v Speaker 1>Adamson of Roswell, New Mexico to sublet Garrett's property, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was also agreed that Turner and Adamson would buy

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<v Speaker 1>the sheep or goats. Garrett, though, had not been involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this new agreement, and he objected and stated that

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<v Speaker 1>he believed that Brazil had forfeited his lease in making

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<v Speaker 1>this sublet deal and that he was going to see

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<v Speaker 1>him in court. Spoiler alert, they do not work this out.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Carl Adamson's account, as he the Rio Grand

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<v Speaker 2>Republican a few days after Garrett's death, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to paraphrase him a bit here. He's long winded. He

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<v Speaker 2>had stayed the night at Bear Canyon Ranch and the

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<v Speaker 2>two left in the morning of February twenty ninth, and

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett's buggy they were headed for Las Cruses, only a

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<v Speaker 2>few miles away, to work out a new deal with Brazil.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the account of the tragic ride when pat

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<v Speaker 1>was fatally shot next to his buggy on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the road, as told by Adamson quote, Garrett was

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<v Speaker 1>dressed carefully when we set out for Los Cruses. He

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<v Speaker 1>placed his Winchester pump gun in the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>buggy before we started, and then about a mile from Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>they overtook Brazil, who was riding alone on a horseback.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett and Brazil began arguing immediately upon seeing each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and they continued to argue as they kept going for miles.

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<v Speaker 1>When Adamson and Garrett pulled over to answer the call

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<v Speaker 1>of nature, Brazil stopped too, who recalled Adamson quote, while

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<v Speaker 1>I was standing there, why I heard mister Garrett said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>damn you. If I can't get you off my ranch

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<v Speaker 1>that way, I will another and I will do it now,

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. After those words passed, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>a racket and I just turned my head like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I turned it, Garrett was on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat's shotgun was also on the ground. Brazil had drawn

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<v Speaker 1>his forty four caliber Colt revolver and fired twice. The

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<v Speaker 1>press reported that quote. Garrett was standing on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>by the buggy when he made the grab for the shotgun,

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<v Speaker 1>which cost him his life. His death was practically instantaneous.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Adamson's eyewitness account. After the shooting, Brazil turned

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<v Speaker 2>to him and said, quote, this is hell, ain't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I Am going to town and give myself up to

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<v Speaker 2>the sheriff. An alternate account was published in local papers, stating,

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<v Speaker 2>quote Brazil at once turned the six shooter on Adamson

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<v Speaker 2>demand that he'd take him at once to Los Cruses

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<v Speaker 2>and tell the story of the killing exactly as it happened,

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<v Speaker 2>whether Brazil demanded it or not. The two men left

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<v Speaker 2>to see Sheriff Filippe Lucero in Las Cruzes. There, Brazil

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just confess to the killing. He also told the

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<v Speaker 2>sheriff he feared Pat Garrett was going to kill him,

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<v Speaker 2>and stated he had acted out of self defense. So

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<v Speaker 2>that seems like an open and shutcase, but and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our butts, it wasn't. The sheriff didn't really believe Brazil

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<v Speaker 2>was capable of carrying out such a crime and didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think the confession was true. He wanted more evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>A coroner's jury convened composed of B. F. Baker, Hugh Clary,

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent May C. S. Pedrigan, at Satterley, Face Sperry, and

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<v Speaker 1>Justice of the Peace and Coroner Manuel Lopez. They viewed

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<v Speaker 1>Pat's body where he had been killed. They reported that

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<v Speaker 1>one bullet had passed through the head, entering from behind

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<v Speaker 1>and exiting over the left eye. A second bullet had

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<v Speaker 1>entered the left breast at about the seventh rib and

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<v Speaker 1>had exited between the shoulder blades. Pat's body was lying

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<v Speaker 1>on its back and his arms were outspread. His shotgun,

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<v Speaker 1>loaded with number eight shot, was on the ground about

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<v Speaker 1>three feet away. The report also noted that his trousers

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<v Speaker 1>were unbuttoned. Within the results of the inquest, it's written

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<v Speaker 1>that Pat Garrett was reported dead in Dounia, Anna County,

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<v Speaker 1>about five miles northeast of Las Cruces, on February twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh eight, and that quote the deceased came to

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<v Speaker 1>his death by gunshot wounds inflicted by one Wayne Brazil.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a break for a word from

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors. When we're back, we'll talk about Wayne Brazil

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<v Speaker 2>and why he wasn't the only suspect in this murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about the trial that

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<v Speaker 1>barely was.

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Garrett's friends were convinced that his murder was the

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<v Speaker 2>result of a ruthless and cold blooded conspiracy and when

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett's brothers arrived by train from Louisiana, they told the

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<v Speaker 2>press they had the same theory. Though the coroner's jury

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<v Speaker 2>found that the first bullet that struck Pat was the

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<v Speaker 2>one that hit his head, many of Pat's friends and

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<v Speaker 2>supporters argued no way. They believed he fell after the

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<v Speaker 2>shot to the chest, pointing out that that wound was

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<v Speaker 2>found to have been made by a bullet that ranged

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<v Speaker 2>upward from, like we said, the seventh rib, to its

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<v Speaker 2>exit between the shoulder blades. Some believed that the bullet

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<v Speaker 2>that entered the left chest was fired after Garrett had

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<v Speaker 2>fallen to the ground, because if Pat had intended to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot Brazil, he never would have turned his back to him.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a great deal of discussion in the newspapers

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<v Speaker 1>about an alleged conspiracy to kill Pat Garrett. Many people

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<v Speaker 1>believe there was and is more about the circumstances of

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<v Speaker 1>the killing yet to be shared or yet to be discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>Said one local resident to the press at the time, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't understand how Pat Garrett would be reaching over

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<v Speaker 1>into a buggy for a gun, jumping out with a

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<v Speaker 1>gun in his hand, or otherwise giving his opponent first

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<v Speaker 1>chance to shoot. There is something queer about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the story of the killing does not fit in with

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett's lifelong methods of fighting. Furthermore, it was not like

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett to loose his head and make a bum play

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<v Speaker 1>like that, no matter what the dispute was about.

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<v Speaker 2>The case went to trial about a year after Pat's death. Brazil,

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<v Speaker 2>the defendant, was represented by A. T. Jerney and future

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of the Interior Albert Bacon Fall. The single witness

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<v Speaker 2>to the shooting, Carl Adamson, never testified. He was under

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<v Speaker 2>arrest for allegedly illegally smuggling Chinese workers into the United

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<v Speaker 2>States at the time. In his own defense, Brazil claimed

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<v Speaker 2>that he did not draw his gun until he'd seen

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett had reached for his shotgun first. Those who knew

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<v Speaker 2>Brazil as a ranch hand testified to his character that

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<v Speaker 2>he'd quote always borne a good reputation and never sought trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Brazil's trial, which was a one day event, concluded on

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<v Speaker 2>May fourth, nineteen oh nine, and court records show that

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<v Speaker 2>without the star witness Carl Adamson, Brazil was acquitted.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat was killed in nineteen oh eight, and to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>there are theories of conspiracy and a murderous revenge, none

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<v Speaker 1>of which have been substantiated. Sentiment on this is divided.

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<v Speaker 1>Some believed and believe that the killing was done by

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<v Speaker 1>Brasil in self defense, and others just don't buy that story.

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<v Speaker 1>Some theories consider that if Wayne Brazil wasn't actually the killer,

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<v Speaker 1>someone still conspired to execute Garrett, a lawman with the

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of wild West enemies that lawmen have in their

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<v Speaker 1>line of work.

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<v Speaker 2>Beginning the day after Garrett's murder, newspapers began publishing conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theories about the incident. Some figured it was a revenge

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<v Speaker 2>killing for the death of Billy the Kid, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>highly unlikely. The men's deaths were nearly thirty years apart.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an awfully long time to hold a grudge, and frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's also an awfully long time to stay alive as

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<v Speaker 2>an outlaw in the wild West, it would seem. There

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<v Speaker 2>are also theories regarding cold hard cash. One suggests Garrett's

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<v Speaker 2>death happened because of a land dispute, specifically the sale

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<v Speaker 2>or lease of his Bear Canyon ranch. Another idea suggests

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe he was killed after a financial dispute about

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<v Speaker 2>sheep or goats, and yet still another theory considers nothing

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<v Speaker 2>more than this. Pat Garrett just didn't think he could lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil was the obvious suspect, after all, he turned himself

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<v Speaker 1>in immediately after the incident happened. But once he was acquitted,

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<v Speaker 1>the case went cold and it was fair game at

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<v Speaker 1>pointing fingers at the possibilities. Four other suspects have been

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<v Speaker 1>seriously proposed and or considered. The first three you'll recognize

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<v Speaker 1>from their involvement in Garrett's ranch deal Carl Adamson, Bill Cox,

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<v Speaker 1>and Archie Road. Historian and author Leon Metz wrote of

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett that quote, Bill Cox himself ambushed and killed Garrett,

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<v Speaker 1>and interestingly, Metz also wrote that quote, The Garrett family

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<v Speaker 1>believes that Carl Adamson pulled the trigger. Mark Lee Gardner,

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<v Speaker 1>in his twenty ten book about Billy the Kid and

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Garrett to Hell on a Fast Horse, suggests that

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<v Speaker 1>Archie Road was the killer.

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<v Speaker 2>So that doesn't help us at all. But we said

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<v Speaker 2>four suspects, and the fourth isn't a name we've mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>at all. He's an interesting character in this though. He's

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<v Speaker 2>James Miller, a cowboy and hired killer known as killing

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<v Speaker 2>Jim and Killer Miller. The theory around Miller's involvement is

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<v Speaker 2>that though Brazil confessed, Miller is believed by some to

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<v Speaker 2>have actually committed the murder and was paid to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then who paid him? That's just another rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 2>for us to go down.

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<v Speaker 1>So many open ends.

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<v Speaker 2>So many, so many, and wow, I'm I'm not surprised

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<v Speaker 2>to see the three names that popped up as other possibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. No, would you like to step into

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<v Speaker 1>the cooler as we consider this mess?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Let us Okay, So this is one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where my brain is like, it was obviously Brasil right,

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<v Speaker 1>like why would he confess if he didn't, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? But apparently not at least on the

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<v Speaker 1>official finding.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I found myself invoking the phrase that I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>associate with kind of you know, men of Pat Garrett's type. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that this whole thing is clear as mud, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that is the name of the drink. And then that

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<v Speaker 1>gave me an idea where I was like, so I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make a drink that looks like a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that is obvious and easy to anticipate, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>not that thing. And it's different than anything we've done before.

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<v Speaker 1>I also realized rum has yet to be used this season,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a rum based drink.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're fixing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're fixing that. Leggety split, And this one is

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting. You're gonna you may initially have a weird

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<v Speaker 1>but come with me, I promise. So the clearest mud

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<v Speaker 1>is very easy. You are going to start with a

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<v Speaker 1>half ounce of the jew from a mandarin orange like

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<v Speaker 1>snack thing, you know what I'm talking about, those little, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>rather canned mandarin oranges or the little like single serving

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<v Speaker 1>packs that have the little like a plastic film on

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<v Speaker 1>them that you can peel off. Just a half ounce

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<v Speaker 1>of that and then you can eat yummy mandarin oranges,

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<v Speaker 1>hope you like them. And then a half ounce of

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate syrup. And you're actually gonna mix these two things

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<v Speaker 1>together to make sure you get like a smooth consistency

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<v Speaker 1>that the chocolate syrup isn't like clumped.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm excited so far because I really like a

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<v Speaker 2>chocolate orange combination.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you just hang on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So to this, you're gonna add two dashes of

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<v Speaker 1>Angustura bitters. If you really want to go harder with orange,

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<v Speaker 1>use orange bitters. Both are good. And then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do an ounce and a half of rum and two

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<v Speaker 1>barspoons of water because you really want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that chocolate syrup is thinned out, which it will be

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<v Speaker 1>all ready with the rum, but just it. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>better consistency if you had a little bit of water.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you are gonna shake this in your shaker

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<v Speaker 1>with tons of ice and pour it into like a

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<v Speaker 1>ideally a highball glass with a big ice cube like

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<v Speaker 1>you would use for an old fashion because we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in those proportions and you don't want to water

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<v Speaker 1>it down anymore. That's why you use the big ice cube.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to melt as fast and do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always looking for an excuse to use my big

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<v Speaker 2>ice cubes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. If you're an old fashioned drinker, you got this.

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<v Speaker 1>You got all your equipment handy. This tastes like a

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like it's gonna be a chocolate milky drink,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not because there's no dairy components. Because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most chocolate syrups that you would buy are chocolate flavor

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<v Speaker 1>and sugar. If you have one that has some dairy

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<v Speaker 1>in it. It's pretty minimal at that point, but it

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<v Speaker 1>tastes like a chocolate orange. And what's really interesting is

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<v Speaker 1>that it, at least on my palate, does the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that a chocolate orange does, where it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing you taste is chocolate, and then the orange

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<v Speaker 1>is the subtle flavor, like the secondary kick in. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not hyper sweet because we're not doing a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of syrup and we're adding some water, so you get

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<v Speaker 1>the flavor without that heaviness, which I really like.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Pat Garrett was that much of a

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<v Speaker 2>sweet guy anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it didn't seem right to do like a mud

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<v Speaker 1>slide or something.

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<v Speaker 2>For it, right, I think you wo have been like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Order that, right, right, something is more appropriate, little more

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<v Speaker 1>grown up. So that is the clearest mud. Now for

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<v Speaker 1>the mock tail, we're gonna do something a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>different because this is one where normally the kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>things that I sub out for rum are things like

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<v Speaker 1>low sugar, white grape juice or another juice, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>too much sweet. So we're gonna instead make this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like an Italian soda so you're gonna bump up

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<v Speaker 1>the amounts of your mandarin orange juice and your chocolate syrup,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna do an ounce of each will be

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<v Speaker 1>a bit sweeter. But then, and it's this one's very simple.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just gonna stir those two together, make sure they're

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<v Speaker 1>nice and smooth, and then you are going to pour

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<v Speaker 1>those over ice and top with two to three ounces

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<v Speaker 1>of club soda. That two to three is to your taste,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you like most, and then you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>an odd chocolate orange soda.

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<v Speaker 2>Which actually sounds just as yummy as the cocktail. Michel

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<v Speaker 2>on this sound equally yummy. Out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're different, for sure, but they do have a

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<v Speaker 1>similar landing point in terms of flavor on your palate,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, I'm sort of fascinated by how this one worked.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is the clearest mud. It seems obvious, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not much like Pat Garrett's case, because it seems obvious,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's apparently not. It's very shady. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the directions of those bullets are really where we get

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<v Speaker 1>very very confused in all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel as Holly and I had a separate conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about how the coroner's report differs from what Pats friends

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<v Speaker 2>and family I think may have happened with those bullets,

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<v Speaker 2>and it shows exactly what conspiracy brain can do to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're just trying to trying to figure figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But in any case, hopefully this beverage will not do

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<v Speaker 1>anything bad to your brain. Please drink responsibly always. I

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<v Speaker 1>love to drink, but I'm actually not a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of getting drunk. That's that's for when I was much younger. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I just like to experience a yummy drink. Yes, hope

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