1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast can't seem better than Antonio around. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joining in 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Greg Rosendal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Happy Monday. 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: You got a case on the Monday's UG? You do, right? 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't know you've seen today and just you know what? 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: The Monday thing is real? It's like ug. It's the 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: worst Tuesday, Blah, Wednesday, hump Day, Thursday, underrated day, always 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: has been, and some people call it Friday JR. Friday, 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: the gentleman's Friday. West. You're back in Los Angeles and 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: according to a conversation, according to comments you made in 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: a conversation earlier today, that you made your last journey 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: on an airplane ahead of your wedding. That's good. Yeah, 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: I hope it's my last journey. Feels like we've been 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: traveling a lot. Cincinnati was fun. Bachelor party, no strippers, 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: no poker, no paintball. Success that's next week. Well, the 18 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: the family and friends. From the real part this was 19 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: that you were there for the paramore. Well, she had 20 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 1: her shower and simultaneously hard to keep track of this stuff. 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: My brothers through a bachelor party, we smoked dead animals 22 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: and through corn hole. It was perfect. That sounds nice 23 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: And Part two will be in uh Santiago with the 24 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast boys a week from Thursday. So 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: we've got some surprises. We're actually gonna smoke live animals. 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean they want to stay live, but as a 27 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: treat for you, Mark will be eating them as an entirety. 28 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: Is there any concerned because I mean you you know, 29 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: Lakisha's had a variety of um female oriented celebrations. I 30 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: noticed um and one of them that there was like 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: a fleet of stripper poles that they were dancing around 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: learning to do jigs and things. I mean, how did 33 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: you How do you feel about that? I think it's great. 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Kasia is a fantastic dancer. She danced in college. It's 35 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: a gift she has. I don't share that gift. And 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: maybe if I didn't have that gift, I'd be dancing 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: on stripper poles too. Well, you're saying all the right things, 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: learned a lot already. Ironic that it's West who says 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,559 Speaker 1: keep me away from the strippers for the bachelor party, 40 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: the wife to be bring of poles. That's sort of 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: one of my questions about these classes that the girls take. 42 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: Do you get an actual stripper who's an expert to 43 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: show you how to do the dances? Or do you 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: have some dancer who just kind of learned how to 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: do kind of stripper moves? Like, are you getting the 46 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: authentic thing or not? You gotta ask her, ask her 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: what one? Once? I took a stripping class. Stripper, yeah, 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: an exotic dancer, yes, yes, it's a preferred nomenclature. Yes, 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: and then how do we fact check? I mean, it 50 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: can tell us that, But how do I mean? It is? 51 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: It is an art? It is so much work. It's 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: also great core work. I know that I am not 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: nearly in good enough shape to attempt any of those 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: pool dance I'll tell you what though. And you weren't 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: here for our Friday softball recap. You were moving around 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: incredibly well at third base, making every play and uh 57 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: and and and hitting the ball very well with authority. 58 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: I didn't see you haven't skipped a beat physically, despite 59 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: many many comments that you've made in a self deprecating 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: manner that physically you're no longer the same man, or 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: you're working your way back. You seem to be all 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: man and then so it's very generous of you. I 63 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: would say the only positive thing I noticed was I 64 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: definitely have more flexibility than I did a couple of 65 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: years ago. But my wind was gone after the first 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: time I attempted to run. I didn't feel very rangey 67 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: at third base. So thank you for saying all that. 68 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: You're welcome, And that is actually Mark's favorite trade. A 69 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: man limber limber. Oh, there's no it's that. Then a 70 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: deep distance to number two. Alright, a big show coming 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: up today. Uh. Interesting Again, we're in a little weird 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: bubble of the NFL calendar that it feels particularly pronounced 73 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: this year. I don't know why that just there's not 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: a lot happening, but there's some stupid things happening. And 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some dumb things happening on social 76 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: media where a lot of dumb things happened. Uh. And 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: also we're gonna look ahead to the draft and specifically 78 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: who should be noivous about the draft When you look 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: at the current rosters in the NFL, established players, greg 80 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: who should look at at what you know. Mayok, well 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: not anymore. Excuse me, excuse me, the new Mayok move 82 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: the sticks. Who else we got Zerline? Bucky Brooks, Well, 83 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: that's a big it's a big, big spot for him, 84 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: big shoes to fill. But these players, these veterans looking 85 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: at the draft and and how that could change their careers. 86 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, we're gonna talk about some players who should 87 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: be a little noivous. I talked to Daniel Jeremiah this one. 88 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: He does not seem nervous. He seemed very comfortable and 89 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: very luxurious in his new role, happy to be there. 90 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: Then strike me as a very little to the next 91 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. He's prepared. It's it's it's when the 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: lights come on and it's show time. Does he strike 93 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: you as a nervous You've got the Wednesday mock draft beforehand. 94 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: People are keeping score. I mean, that's the big time week. 95 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: I feel bad for people keeping score on mock draft. Tom. 96 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: There's got to be something better to do with you, 97 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think Yeah, Jared Jared Goff wasn't nervous 98 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: during the bye week, although he maybe he was during 99 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: the bye week before the Super Bowl might not be 100 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: the best example. I've never seen anyone more nervous than 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: that man. Before we started the show. We ended up 102 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: stumbling into adds Internet wormhole. Grape lady who's stopping on 103 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: grapes uh, and then fell out of the grape thing 104 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: off the platform. And she had a lot of confidence 105 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: when she was stopping on the grapes greg uh. And 106 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: then the lights went up, the cameras were on, and 107 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: she and tumbling down. I mean, like a lesson learned. 108 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: Like many of our listeners, I have no idea what 109 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about. We should I mean, we can use 110 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: that audio. Yeah, you know what we're talking about. YouTube 111 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: it great, lady, there's an app for that. All right, 112 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: let's listen news Listen. You're cute, there's no getting around it. 113 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you like country music, but 114 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe one of these days we can 115 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: drive out to a field, grape up some tunes, spoke 116 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: a few back and neodles, maybe even toss a disk around. 117 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: But wait, who wow? I mean, who else got bombarded 118 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: in their mentions? Well for not knowing that the d 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: M that Ricky got from a mystery man was actually 120 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: a Andy Bernard from the Office, uh Pam interaction from 121 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: season three. I'm only a little surprised because I would say, Dan, 122 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: you're the biggest Office fan. I know I certainly was, 123 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: but I that could have slipped past my radar. But 124 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: when the fifty eighth person tells you in a twelve 125 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: hour span that it was from the Office, that's when 126 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: it really hit home that we pulled it from that show. 127 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: That it was pulled from that show, That's when I learned, 128 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: and I guess the lesson. There's a lesson there that, um, 129 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: it's great to have a big audience that we do 130 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: on this podcast, and we're all very proud and happy 131 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: to have this audience, but we get held accountable when 132 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: we mess up, and and sometimes it's really annoying. Were 133 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: you getting hitten mentions? I were in there? Your name 134 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: is I wasn't too active on social media. I wouldn't 135 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: say it's exactly what I needed and muted muted everyone 136 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: by now And I don't know, I think I saw 137 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: like one of those, but yeah, right, relentless like it 138 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: was frankly really annoying. All right, let's get into it. 139 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown I said there would be something stupid to 140 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: talk about here. It is Antonio Brown fell out with 141 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers, forced the trade to Oakland. The Steelers got 142 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: about forty five cents on the dollar in the trade. 143 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown got a big pay day. He essentially got 144 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: everything you want. Maybe he didn't go to a Super 145 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Bowl contender, but he gets to go out west. He 146 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: gets to play in Vegas for a franchise that that's 147 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: on TV and people talk about. But for whatever, he's 148 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: an Antonio Brown is not fully willing to let go 149 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: of his Steelers days and the beefs that were built 150 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: during that time. Case in point, Juju Smith Schuster UM, 151 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: the reigning team MVP of the Steelers and another UM 152 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,359 Speaker 1: superstar in his own right at the position um. Antonio 153 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: Brown uh went after Juju uh specifically, and I'll read 154 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: it emotion boy fumbled the whole postseason in the biggest 155 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: game of the year. Everybody went blind, busy, blind, too 156 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: busy making guys famous. Not enough reality these days, by 157 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: the way, check But I can't really It's hard to 158 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: read anything Antonio Brown writes because the words are always 159 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: there's always like multiple words missing. Uh. And then Juju 160 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster came back at him crazy, how big that 161 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: ego got to take shots at people who show you love? 162 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: And then Antonio Brown just uh today West Monday. Uh 163 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: Then I guess in another way to try to dig at, 164 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: Juju pulls up an old um Twitter d M that 165 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Juju sent asking for ways he was a wide receiver 166 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: at USC at the time, asking Antonio Brown um what 167 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: he can do to get better and praising his play. 168 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: He was already a star on the Steelers Brown was 169 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: at that point. Uh So that has become the big 170 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: story of Monday and West, I know you're thrilled about it. 171 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Well, I guess it puts the lie to 172 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: the tepid take that Antonio Brown was only acting like 173 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: a crazy person to get traded and as soon as 174 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: he got to l a dyed his much dash back 175 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: to its regular color and we'll start acting like a 176 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: normal person. No. I think this is one of the 177 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: old the old saying when someone shows you who he is, 178 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: believe him. I think Antonio Brown has showed us who 179 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: he is. Well, he's he's like a small he's kind 180 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: of a small insecure guy, which is not atypical of 181 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: people at the very tops of their profession. It's kind 182 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: of a a strange dichotomy of, like, you know, sometimes 183 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: people to get to that point have an enormous ego 184 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: on one hand, but are also incredibly insecure on another. 185 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: This was in response to a fan pointing out that 186 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: Juju won the Team m Yeah one the Team MVP, 187 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: which clearly sticks in Antonio Brown's cross so much that 188 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: he's sitting there, who knows, if you know, what's going 189 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: on in his life at the time, but he's sees 190 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: that tweet and he just can't bear to not respond 191 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: to that because it bothers him so much. And because 192 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: of all this happening the last couple of days, some 193 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: people have been sending out this. Jesse Washington, I believe, 194 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: is the name who wrote an article on Antonio Brown 195 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: for The Undefeated UH last September, which I had, which 196 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: I missed the first time around down UH, and it 197 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: details a lot of different ways in which Antonio Brown 198 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: has kind of been small and UH struggled to maintain 199 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: the personal relationships he's had around him, not just with 200 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: the mothers of his children, but also his trainers and 201 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: other other people that have been close to him, where 202 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: he's kind of exhibited the same sort of behavior where 203 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: he's just I don't know, it's not just going hell, 204 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: it's just kind of had We had a d d 205 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: Ki kabwala uh the NFL network on our show when 206 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: we're at the owners meetings, and she's been close and 207 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: around the Steelers for years now for our company, and 208 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: she said it, and we've heard it from other places, 209 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: but I trust her coming straight from her to us 210 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: saying Antonio A. Broun just changed at some point through 211 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: his ego and whatever his personality and what was around 212 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: him and the success he had changed who he was 213 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: as a person, and and that led to what you're 214 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: seeing now. It's just a different person and doesn't sound 215 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: like a better person. I think, like the all of 216 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: year old me, I think about this sometimes with Twitter 217 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: that when I was young and a huge football fan, 218 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: it would have been my dream to be able to 219 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: communicate with players and tell them encouraging things and ask 220 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: them questions and just learn about their lives. But looking 221 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: at what happens in general, I do think that we 222 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: on some level live in a terrible time because this 223 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: is the perfect example of something where if you have 224 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: some acts to grind with anyone go handle it one 225 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: on one. Instead, it becomes everyone's drama and we all 226 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: have to deal with it, and it's completely unrewarding for 227 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: us to have to talk about it. And I don't 228 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: know who it is rewarding for. Is is Antonio Brown 229 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: coming out of this feeling better about the way he 230 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: handled I would imagine actually he will self punish after 231 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: realizing what this turned into. Two this is you do 232 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: it in the well, I know, but like you you 233 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: get it's a little just like he said, said like 234 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Shusters had settled down on the emotion, you know, 235 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: And He's right. It's like we've all felt that. I know, 236 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: I've guilty it toly. You hit send on a tweet, 237 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: you hit send on something you're like wait, wait, and 238 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: then later like I shouldn't have done that. I think 239 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown gets caught in this trap just too much 240 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: credit for his level of self awareness at this point. Well, 241 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: I know nothing about him. I do think he is 242 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: very interested in being one of the biggest superstars alive 243 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: or certainly in in sports. I think that's that's very 244 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: important to him. And so maybe, like like other people 245 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: who have risen high in this in this country. You know, 246 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: he's he's interested in attention for attentions sake, and isn't 247 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: even really picking between good and bad. In that article, 248 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: they pointed out he puts more on Instagram than literally 249 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: any than any major athlete, like like just by post. 250 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's he wants the attention on some level, good, 251 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: bad or whatever. He can find it on your diary, 252 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: you can find attention. Like when it's one thing, when 253 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: the student starts to turn on the teacher, you kind 254 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: of get it. That's the way of life. You think 255 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: you're better than your dad at basketball and the driveway 256 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden or whatever it is. But when 257 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: it's Antonio Brown turning on juju to me something about 258 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: that's going in the wrong direction. He's just totally on 259 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: appealing and he's like a two year old kid, and 260 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: he's just mad that he won the Team MVP Award. 261 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: By the way, thank you to the Steelers again for 262 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: keeping this Team MVP award. Going looking forward to them 263 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: announcing this year that James Washington was the Team m 264 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: v P and then Ben Roethlisber gets pissed. It's like 265 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: something new every year, doesn't Antonio Brown feel a little 266 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: bit like an off brand Terrell Owens the generation later, yes, yeah, 267 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: and then not that did things the right way either, 268 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: But it was something more entertainment. That was fresher, That 269 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: was fresher. This this is in the completely the category 270 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: of completely unnecessary and unrewarding to all of us. An 271 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's is more mean, right, It's more lashing out 272 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: at people and trying to hurt people, And Terrell Owens 273 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: was a lot of self destructiveness. All right, let's move on. 274 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen another a key name around the NFL draft because, 275 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: as we know, um Cliff Kingsbury, the new head coach 276 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals, big air raid guy. He's in love 277 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. They say, and that, and they that's 278 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna end with the Cardinals picking Murray with the first 279 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: overall pick, and that means curtains for Josh Rosen, the 280 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote franchise quarterback in Arizona. So where is he 281 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna end up? Well, a couple of reports over the 282 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: weekend's surface. ESPN's John Kinn believes there is a quote 283 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: solid chance Kim bomb uh Kim bomb in a big 284 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: spot that Washington will trade for Rosen. Peter King and 285 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: his Monday Morning Quarterback column UH called Washington the quote 286 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: favorite in the clubhouse to trade for Rosen, and it's 287 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: certainly greg that certainly makes sense from the standpoint of 288 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: Alex Smith, and Washington is very it's very in doubt 289 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: whether he'll play another step in his career after that 290 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: broken leg case. Keenum heads there and he's no one's 291 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: idea of even a bridge, I feel like at this point, 292 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: and Colt McCoy can't stay on the field, just have 293 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: another leg surgery. Josh Rosen would bring in a someone 294 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: with actual, true potential going forward and maybe not a 295 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: too bad cost, not at all. I think there's most 296 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: teams I think would be uh well served by giving 297 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: up a second round pick for Josh Rosen. I really 298 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: think there's more teams than not in the NFL that 299 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: I would say that's a good trade sending your second 300 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: or maybe maybe it's a high third, and the Redskins 301 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: would be high on that list. They're also one of 302 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: four teams Albert Brier marked as teams that have contacted 303 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals asking about Rosen. Trying to figure it out. 304 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: Is that there was the Giants, the Chargers, uh, and 305 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: the Redskins were another one of them. The Giants are 306 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: quote not in love with Rosen, so maybe you could 307 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: cross them up. The list doesn't seem right. It doesn't 308 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: seem right now that the list is that long for 309 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: people interested in Rosen. But also there's maybe a lot 310 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: that we don't know well. Theren't that many teams that 311 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: need the starter. But where we're like, Rosen is labeled 312 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: as not a fit for the air raid offense in 313 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: comparison to Kyler Murray. He does fit with Jon Gruden. 314 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: I think that John Cruden is in a make or 315 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: break season. I don't mean Jake Gruden. Excuse me. I 316 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: don't know how many years the Redskins want to go 317 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: on with this front office in this head coach. But 318 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: this is a quarterback that would fit very well for him, 319 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: So I think Jake Ruden would absolutely pushed to do this. 320 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: The Lord idea I found fascinating I think it was 321 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: from Breer's column, was that in the month or two 322 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, and maybe this goes from 323 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: February through late April, draft picks are worth so much 324 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: more to the people who have them than they are 325 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: in summertime or the off season, and why haven't analytics 326 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: found a way to exploit this this like gold rush 327 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: from February to August, where a number fifty overall pick 328 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: in the draft is probably worth what like a number 329 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: twenty overall pick in the draft. It just seems incongruous, 330 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: and I think, I think, and then it and then 331 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: it changes a little bit during the draft. Now that 332 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: in the Patriots have taken advantage of that. There was 333 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: a study of like who's done the most pick swap trades, 334 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: and they've done like a third of the pick swap 335 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: trades in the entire league over the last ten years. 336 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: Because I think once you get down the draft day, 337 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: then people just have guys that they want and that 338 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: they're willing to give him up. And for the record, 339 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen attempting appears to be attempting to minimize the 340 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: drama around the situation. He did report to the opening 341 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: of Arizona's offseason conditioning workouts, and not only did he report, 342 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: according to Ian rapp Report or NFL Media Insider, he 343 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: was the first man in the building. Is he listen 344 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: to Chaz Castle and Greig? I mean the first man 345 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: in the building, beat that general into the building, beat 346 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: the refrigerator guy into the building, beat the mass into 347 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: the building. Do we eat? Do they just have key cards? 348 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: I mean, who is even confirming this? It's just no 349 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: one's there to confirm it was there at like three 350 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, be like, hey, no one's here that. 351 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: How does everyone even anyone gonna know? Uh? He could 352 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean he could go in there like two in 353 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: the morning and then take a nap for seven hours. 354 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: He could have done that tests you know, the whole 355 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: first one in, last one to leave culture or quote. 356 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's overrated. It's overrated because we're not 357 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: We're not the first ones in the building. So to us, 358 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: it's over an overrated quality here. If you're talking invest 359 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and DeMarcus Lawrence got it done. They agreed 360 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Friday to terms on a five year, one and five 361 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: million dollar contract. Sixty five million of that guaranteed rap 362 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: sheet and Mike Garafolo reported that is the most guaranteed 363 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: money ever for a non quarterback and also the highest 364 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: first year payout for a non QB. The previous record 365 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: for defensive player was Khalil Mack. He made thirty one 366 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: million in two thousand eight. Lawrence, Mac and Aaron Donald 367 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: are the only three defensive players averaging more than twenty 368 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: million per season. Chris Westling, Lawrence turns twenty seven this month. 369 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: I believe he is. He's gonna have back surgery. Yes, 370 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: shoulder surgery. Excuse me, uh coming up. So that is 371 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: not inconsequential to this, but your thoughts on the signing 372 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: not only not inconsequential, but to me, the most interesting 373 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: part of this was the leverage he had because of 374 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: that surgery. He had played through a torn laborum and 375 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: his shoulder all of last year and part of two 376 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. The Cowboys wanted him to get this surgery, 377 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: and he you know, it's a big deal for a 378 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: player to go and undergo serious, major surgery. So he said, 379 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I'm willing to wait until the 380 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: week before the training camp training camp to do this, 381 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: which would have put a season in jeopardy. And the 382 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys said, no, we want you to do it now. 383 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: And they were able to find common ground on this 384 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: because they wanted him to have the surgery probably a 385 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: month or two ago. It's a reminder for teams that 386 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: have guys on the tag now that you know. I 387 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: think if if the best case scenario happens and the 388 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: guy stays healthy and plays well, you're gonna pay for it, 389 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: because you know Lawrence. I read a breakdown that he 390 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: was asking at one point for less money than Trey 391 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Flowers got from the Patriots, and I mean from the 392 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: Lions rather, not even that long ago. He was asking 393 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: for that, and then suddenly Trey Flowers signs and it's like, Okay, 394 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: that's the starting point. We're going to get more than that. 395 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: So the longer you wait and don't get a deal done, 396 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: which they maybe could have done during last season, you 397 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: end up paying a lot more. It's interesting that Stephen Jones, 398 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: their VP now, coming out and saying that the any 399 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: deal that they get together for Dak Prescott now and 400 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: quotes must be a team friendly. It's like, okay, well, so, well, 401 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: you know you've not solved all your problems. DeMarcus Lawrence 402 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: has been an All Pro caliber player for the last 403 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: two years. He comes in right under Von Miller and 404 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: Khalil Mackworth, which is where he should be. I mean, 405 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm not as down on Dak as Greg is. I'm 406 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: not that just can't stand him, that's true, just fine quarterback. 407 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: But if I were the Cowboys, I would say the 408 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: same thing to Dak Prescott. You have to take a 409 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: team friendly all out. He has a chance to be 410 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: like a more entertaining Andy Dalton type career. That's what 411 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That sort of seems to me more more 412 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: of a Donovan Nap. That'd be all right, though. I 413 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: mean Debarcus Lawrence, by the way, like three years ago. 414 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: It's crazy, you're two years ago was like a bust 415 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: coming off suspention one sack like change that narrative. Change 416 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: it pretty fast, alright, little draft talk, Uh, Peter King, 417 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: I believe in that same Monday Morning Quarterback column, here's 418 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: that Ohio State quarterback Dwayne Haskins is quote sinking and 419 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: he might be the fourth of those qbs. Let's go 420 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: over and again, Kyler Murray presumed at number one, Drew Lock, 421 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, and Dwayne Haskins. A lot of people say, oh, 422 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: we won't be surprised of all four of those goes. 423 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: All four of those players go in the first round, 424 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: and Haskins all of a sudden, according to this report, Uh, 425 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: maybe the last one off the board, and rap Sheet 426 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: reported that Haskins will visit with the Broncos and there 427 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: they are again, the Redskins this week. Well this brings 428 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: to mind a quote from Daniel Jeremiah Monday morning, note 429 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: to self, Everything you hear for the next two weeks 430 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: will be a lie m. I mean, how do you 431 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: know whether to believe this Haskin stuff or not? It 432 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: could be anything, lads. Aeroline UH had a similar take 433 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: to the King article, calling the perceived draft stock quote 434 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: more media created than team driven. Well, that's I mean all. 435 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 1: I think it's fair though, for us to completely ignore 436 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: every mock draft ever, or anyone who wants to do that. 437 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: You're you're gonna be fine if you don't look at 438 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: a single mock draft. But it's also fair if you're 439 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: doing them too. Push all these quarterbacks up because you can, 440 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: you can act like you're smarter than everyone in. Dwayne 441 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: Haskins is less valuable than some defensive tackle in terms 442 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: of actual pure talent. But every single year, these quarterbacks 443 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: get over inflated and move up. And I would be 444 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: surprised if he went back went past the Bengals. To 445 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: be honest, with you. I mean they talked about him 446 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: having some similar traits to Jared Goff and that Zach 447 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Taylors has done a ton of court work and sees 448 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 1: some similarities there. Who knows, We don't know, because there 449 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: are tons of guys who teams reach for quarterback wise, 450 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: but there are also tons of guys who are still 451 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: in the green room or fall to the second round 452 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: when you think they're going. He has the qualities like 453 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: anticipation and seeing the field that that is believed to 454 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: be some of his better at routes. That like, that's 455 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: what I like as as a prospect. That is what 456 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: a Zach Taylor I think wou like. But you're right also, 457 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: West Some of these times, some it's just impossible to 458 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: know sometimes these little whispers, and people thought Mike Mack 459 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: was crazy for believing the whispers that Aaron Rodgers was 460 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: going to fall in the draft and he people like 461 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: people mocked him at the time, like, oh, you're insane 462 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: where that's coming from? And there you go, Brady quit. 463 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: It was another one that like a couple of people 464 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: out right, but not many, but there are like like 465 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: the legit X factor of Josh Rosen filling someone's quarterback need, 466 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: and that could that's gonna take one of these guys 467 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: and drop him fart on the board. There is the 468 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: outside chance because if you do look at the mocks, 469 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: half of them seem to have the Raiders moving up 470 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: for a quarterback to and you can't. You'd have to 471 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: move Derek Hart in theory, or have that awkward situation 472 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: play out that would remove another quarterback opening. So we 473 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: just it's all these hope, like these unsolved situations. I'd 474 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: rather just wake up on like May fifth and be 475 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: like it's all over, thank you. Let's end the news 476 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: with a couple of quarterback notes. Sean Mannion uh did 477 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: not stick around with the Rams after four years, but 478 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: he signs with the Vikings, where he will back up 479 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. The Vikings were looking for a backup because 480 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: their former backup, Trevor Trevor Simeon went to the Jets 481 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: to back up Sam Donald and finally West, You said, 482 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, Well that's incorrect because uh uh, the former 483 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: Brown's quarterback. I feel like he's been on forty teams 484 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: since the Browns. But the former Brown's quarterback um now 485 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: goes by John manziel He he John different John John 486 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: manziel Uh. He told Dan Patrick that's what it is. 487 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: And West you had said that you saw that maybe 488 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: it was a joke. I'm being in various media reports, 489 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: including TMZ sports that he seriously is dropping the n 490 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: y from his name. He is now John manzil Uh 491 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: in an effort to grow up. And Uh, this is interesting, Mark, 492 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: because it whenever this happens, there's always a little bit 493 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: of like, remember when Debbie Gibson said she was Deborah 494 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: terrible idea, But yeah, I know you didn't know, Greg 495 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: No terrible start too. You were born. You missed Debbie Gibson. 496 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: Electric you remember that big, big period in the eighties. 497 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: She was like Taylor Swift before Taylor Swift. But she 498 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: tried to go to Debora and go to Broadway and 499 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: everybody was like, no, come on, well you try to 500 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: turn little Debbie where you suggested that when she became 501 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: an older rapstress that she could change her name to 502 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: what larger Deborah. I believe it was something like that. 503 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: There was also Larry Fishburn now that kind of work, 504 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: because he said, I want to be more serious. He 505 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: was on Pebebee's Playhouse as the Cowboy, and then he 506 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: became now yes, and he was Larry then and then 507 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: he ended up I think getting an Oscar nod for 508 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: the Tina Turner movie. Don't quote me on that. Also, 509 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: back in Danny Hansas told my mom one day, Mom, 510 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm going by Dan. Well that's smart. I mean, it 511 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: is kind of a big moment. It is a big 512 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: I think you have to have a level of gravity 513 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: toss almost to counteract if you're if you're going by 514 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: Johnny or Danny or a name like that as an adult. 515 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: And if if you're john Johnny Man's out. You don't 516 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: you don't have that. What age did you switch? Saying 517 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: so you felt at age eleven you had acquired the 518 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: adult like skills to switch from Danny to Dan. I'm 519 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: doubt you think back to it. I was entering junior 520 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: high essentially, and I probably Danny I associated with being 521 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, little Danny, the boy that has my parents 522 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: and all my families still call me Danny this day. 523 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: But I had I had to move on into a 524 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: more mature place in my life, and uh, it changed everything. 525 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: I have a situation with I'm not here if I'm 526 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: Danny Hansas. I'll tell you that right now. Well, you know, 527 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can flip and pancakes. I mean, 528 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: you're giving yourself nicknames left and right. So it's it's 529 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: still out. There is an option at some point, but 530 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: you could call me Danny. That'd be fine. Uh. That's 531 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: what's happening in the news football fanatics. It's April. It's 532 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: draft month, and that means we are just weeks away 533 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: from a special event that should make died in the 534 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: world Draft knicks hot in the pants. That's right. Your 535 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: chance to schmooze with NFL Network Draft Gurut Daniel Jeremiah 536 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, April in Nashville, Tennessee, the home of this 537 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: year's two thousand and nine NFL Draft. Five winners will 538 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: be selected to fly to Nashville and dine with Daniel 539 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: Jeremiah on the Proud Mary Cruise Line along Nashville's gorgeous 540 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: Cumberland River. Jump in one second, where you go. I mean, 541 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: you imagine he's so busy. He is now the number 542 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: one guy on our depth chart. He's going to take 543 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: out that time out of his schedule in Nashville for 544 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: this event. Yes, because I you know, talk at I 545 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: talked to him this morning. He very much cares about 546 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: the people that he's plugged in with the fans. He 547 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: knows that's a big good thing. It's a six hour 548 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: meet and Greek that will include an elegant four course 549 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: dinner with a vegetarian option and an open bar including 550 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: chilled bottles of Californian champagne from Paul Masson. Is your 551 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to pick the brain of a master for a 552 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: chance to win. Simply hit up Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter 553 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: at move the Sticks with your hottest draft takes using 554 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: the hashtag dining with DJ and one thing I forgot 555 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: to copy. Like we have. We are part of a 556 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: board that is in house looking at the winners. We 557 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: have only identified potentially one at this point because people 558 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: have done a sucky, sucky job at this These need 559 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: to be beefy, two d and eighty character hot takes 560 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: filled with facts. You've got to impress DJ and us 561 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: and it can be one of those ones. That's a 562 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: thread where it goes two character tweet into part two, 563 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: Part three, Part four. Stretch your wings please, you know 564 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: what it is. It's like, don't waste the man's time. 565 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: He is at the top of the food chain when 566 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: it comes to being a draft expert. 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I was 610 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: actually gonna go with a very much casual beach type 611 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: of look for the wedding, but after going to the 612 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: Black Talks, I mean I was dripping in that tuxedo, 613 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: poured myself into it. Last that was nice. Everything about 614 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: what you just said was great and I loved it. 615 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Very exciting for the wedding. And think about 616 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: the photos the four of us in penguin suits together, Mark, 617 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna bere racing too. The Graham with the first 618 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: photos on that don't know when what is it? The Princess, Prince, 619 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: Prince Harry and the TV star that got married. It 620 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: was like, who's gonna get the first photo of the baby? Uh? 621 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: That's Mark. When it comes to getting on the ground, well, No. 622 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: The one issue though with the four of us and 623 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: anyone that has made the decision to follow off more 624 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: of us on Instagram good for you. Uh notices that 625 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: we got into a trap where we all send out 626 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: the same photo within like three seconds of each other. 627 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: So the new move is to post it like two 628 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: months later and be like throwback to that time we 629 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: were doing this. So you're getting out of the scoop game, 630 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: don't you see a gram scoop? Scoop to who? And why? 631 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: What am I doing? Who cares? So? Over all? Right 632 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: here we go, let's get into it. Um, who should 633 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: be noivous about the draft? So let's throw out some 634 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: prominent players in the National Football League and why they 635 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: should be glued to their television sets for what happens 636 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday April. Um, round one and even round two 637 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: and three? You know, but um, let's get going here, Mark, 638 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: throw a name out there. This team has been kind 639 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: of whiplashed and taken down by fans for their lack 640 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: of activity the Cincinnati Bengals, But I I truly think 641 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: that behind the scenes that Zach Taylor has enough buy 642 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: in from ownership on down to explore other quarterbacks and 643 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: to take a shot at one, where the Bengals draftwise 644 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: have done very little of that. In general, there's been little, 645 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: very little threat to Andy Dalton. And I do believe that, uh, 646 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: and this comes from a little whisper her from someone 647 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: too behind the scenes, that this is the year that 648 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: they are going to add with the their They have 649 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: the best pick they've had in a while, number eleven. 650 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: You have a chance to get one of these four 651 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 1: quarterbacks we just talked about. Which one. Who knows. That's 652 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: not my job, but they're gonna grab one. And I 653 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: don't think that it means that Andy Dalton's, you know, 654 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: going to be replaced come week one. That will take time. 655 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: We'll see how that happens. That always is like, oh, 656 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 1: they're very comfortable and having Andy Dalton teach this rookie 657 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: that wrote, well, we'll see. Then by week four, when 658 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: the whole ship is sinking, then you make the switch 659 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: like everyone does. Andy Dalton can be moved or cut 660 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: even for literally zero deadcap money and sixteen plus million 661 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: in savings. I don't think that's gonna happen. I think 662 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: it's a trans But finally, and as they should, they're 663 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: going to take a chance on a different quarterback. And 664 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: that would mean, in a Joe Flacco like situation that 665 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: if he's worth anything, this would be the last year 666 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: of the Glowing Red gingerman in as what West likes 667 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: to call the city natty Town. Do not call it 668 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: natty Nats. How does Daniel Jeremiah feel about you giving 669 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: away all the information that did not come from Daniel 670 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: Jeremiah that I can promise you so I would that 671 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: would be too easy to connect those thoughts because I 672 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: mentioned him for four times that we could talk, not 673 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: about this talking to we did see you talk to Bucky? 674 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: Or why would I give that if so much for 675 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: that pep talk. I guess here's the thing, though, even 676 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: if they did draft Um a quarterback, You're right, they 677 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: would ben Janny Dalton the second that they're under five hundred, 678 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, after a quarter or more into the season. 679 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: But there are examples of guys like Alex Smith um 680 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: and is back in the day where I think Gatty 681 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: Dalton is going to be given a shot over any 682 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: of these guys. They're not necessarily viewed, especially where the 683 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: Bengals are drafting, as you know, guys that have to 684 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: be starting right away, and he'll get his shot to 685 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: try to lead them to a winning record. And if 686 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: you don't have it halfway through the season, you've probably 687 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: done in your pep talk, and you made a good 688 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: point that in that two thousand eleven draft there was 689 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbard and who's the Christian ponder? Jake Locker and 690 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: Andy Dawl and Kaepernick one pick ahead, and you also 691 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: he's also Sid Daltons had an incredible career, which was 692 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: too strong, But your point was well well made that 693 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: he has been he's been fine as a quarterback, and 694 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's been better than I bet I 695 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: could go through him, but I bet he's done better 696 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: than you know of the second round pick. My, my, my, 697 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: My take on this is with these again, we're talking 698 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: about the big four that are out there that everyone's 699 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: talking about. What are the chances that one or any 700 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: of those guys is better than Andy Dalton would Cincinnati 701 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: must be better off addressing other needs rather than to 702 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: replace a perfect, the average or above average quarterback. I 703 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: do think they have other needs. In the first one 704 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: precludes putting a rookie quarterback behind that offensive line until 705 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: they fixed that offensive line. I don't want a rookie quarterback. 706 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: Let's let me ask you one one follow up though, 707 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: because I feel like if you go get Zach Taylor 708 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: one of these so called like young offensive minds, and 709 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: unless Zach Taylor simply went in and his absolutely, you know, 710 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: it feels the way Greg does about Andy Dalton, Like 711 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: I I don't think you can tell a new coach 712 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: that there's a mandate to have any power at all. 713 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that job. It's just a new theory 714 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: that because you have an offensive coach, you have to 715 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: get a new quarterback that he wants. Like sometimes the 716 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: GM and the owner are more powerful and say, hey, coach, 717 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: deal with the quarterback on the roster. That could certainly 718 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: be the case, but I don't think it's new to 719 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: think that coaches who view themselves as offensive gurus, whether 720 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: they verbalize that or not, want to pick their own quarterbacks, 721 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: want their own guy in the next that happens. I 722 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 1: don't think it'd be a bad idea for the Bengals, 723 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: even though I gave that PEP doc to be thinking quarterback, 724 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: whether it's the first or the second round, to to 725 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: try it. They haven't tried anyone in a long time. 726 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture Andy Dalton nervous. That feels like, 727 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: oh golly, just put him in a playoff game. I mean, 728 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: he doesn't strike me as nervous or overly confident in 729 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: the middle West, throw another one out there, who's Noive's 730 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: who should be noives? Well, as we know, the NFL 731 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: stands for not for long, so everyone should be nervous 732 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: except Eli Manning, who is gonna run out there and 733 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: he literally calcifies into the statue they want to feature 734 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: outside their state. But the second letuls save a lot 735 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: of money. The second person I thought of after Eli 736 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: is Jimmy Graham because he had a terrible year last 737 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: year for the Packers. He was awful. He didn't block, 738 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: he didn't catch, contested passes, cost West a sandwich, cost 739 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: me a sandwich, which maybe that explains why I'm bitter 740 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: about the way he played last year. And there are 741 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 1: two Iowa tight ends in the first round who would 742 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: look good in Green Bay. Um, I think Jimmy Graham 743 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: he needs to be concern learned about. He needs to 744 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: be neuivious, does he? I'm trying to remember what his 745 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: contract situation was. Is he a guy who potentially could 746 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: lose his son if you cut him after June one? 747 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: It's eight million dead, four million in savings, which is 748 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: tenable if you're gonna if you wanted to move on 749 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: from the paid him though five millions that he was 750 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: someone where I don't think he would be too nervous 751 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: because in his mind he probably is like I got 752 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: one more big time year to get paid and then 753 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: and he got it. They gave it to him on 754 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: He should be nervous about his snaps, right, but he 755 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: got it five days into the league here. I thought 756 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: he might get cut to your point, Mark and they 757 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: could have gotten out of it. But they gave him 758 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: five million guaranteed, so he's on that rock. I think 759 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis would be quickly applying for jobs elsewhere. He's 760 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: purely blocking at this point. I can't believe he's still 761 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: in the league. All right, Um, I'll throw it out there, 762 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: all right, this is more well, well, it concerns the 763 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: man as well, and I'm sure he wouldn't be thrilled 764 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: about it. But um, when I talk about nerves rams fans, 765 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: maybe UM would be more nervous about the draft if 766 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: I told you there's a chance, what if they you know, 767 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: go and find a Todd Gurley compliment higher than people expect, 768 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: because what what do we know about the Todd gurleyy situation, 769 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: just that it is not something that's potentially gonna heal overnight, 770 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: that it's something that has to be I believe the 771 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: word was maintained going forward. I mean there was a 772 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: lot of talk at the combine from the leaders of 773 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: the RAMS that this is a situation that's it's kind 774 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: of a new reality around the RAMS. And if I'm 775 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, I'm wondering what happens here because they let C. J. 776 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: Anderson walk. Uh, they resigned Malcolm Brown, but to peanuts 777 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: he makes relatively Um, so what is what is else? 778 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: What's in their backfield? Uh? What if they have at 779 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: the thirty first overall pick? You know what if they 780 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: are attempted to to grab someone to thunder and lightning 781 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: or just give Todd Gurley the rest, if they really 782 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: if if Todd Gurley isn't actually a financial investment, uh 783 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: for them, it probably behooves them to have someone in 784 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: there that he could split the workload with. Uh there's 785 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: one name I'll throw out there. I'm not a draft expert, 786 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 1: but I've been reading up on some of Josh Jacobs 787 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: of Alabama is supposed to be the guy that um 788 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: goes in the first round, the running back that goes 789 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: in the first round. A lot of mocks. In fact, 790 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: all of our experts on NFL dot Com all have 791 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: them going except with the exception of one. Analysts have 792 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: him going to the Eagles. At that's kind of where 793 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: he's going right now. Uh, mid to late first round. 794 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: Would the Rams potentially go get Jacobs or someone else? Uh? 795 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: They also have the pick in the third round something 796 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 1: to track as the Todd Gurley mystery goes on, they'd 797 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: be insane and they'd get killed. You know, they had 798 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: they just gave Todd Gurley that money. What's the money for? 799 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: They just in Malcolm Brown. He's only making two million. 800 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 1: That actually one of the highest paid backups in the league. 801 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: I think they've got so many issues because they're a 802 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: young team. But they haven't had many draft picks lately, 803 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: like any high draft picks. And they're missing a second 804 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: rounder again this year. I'm not sure which trade that 805 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: was part of. I'm sure any research could have picked 806 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: that up. But like they've got one pick in the 807 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: top of nineties. It's like, well, I'm just saying why 808 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I've mentioned that because anyone listening can 809 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: easily what I'm saying is you say it's insane. But 810 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: what if what we're hearing is that Todd Gurley no 811 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: longer is. I think that's getting overblown. I think he's 812 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: gonna be I think it's gonna be a big part 813 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: of their I think he's gonna be a big part 814 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: of their offense. And so worst case scenario, he's like 815 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: splitting you know, he's he's one A to Malcolm Brown's 816 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: one B and that's why you paid Malcolm. What I 817 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: would find absolutely um delicious about it is this that 818 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: everything they've said over and over, contrary to you know, 819 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: flying to Switzerland or whatever, said other things, he's doing 820 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: it to pick to get his knee looked at. Like 821 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: he's absolutely fine, everything's absolutely fine, Like we have no concerns. 822 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: He's going to be the same player he ever was. 823 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: We're also going to have someone else take some of 824 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: the workload up. But then if you drafted someone at 825 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: thirty one, you can't roll into that press conference with 826 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: all these benign statements. So I don't I don't mean 827 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: it would be happening, but it would. I just think 828 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: they have huge. They have other big market high alright, uh, 829 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: end of the first round. But if they use it 830 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: on either of their three picks they have, as I said, 831 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: in the third round, that's going to just, you know, 832 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: build more drama around the situation about how much rest 833 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: girl he's gonna need going forward. I really like Malcolm Brown. 834 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: I think they do too. All Right, you're up. I'm 835 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: you know. You said notable players when we're like prominent 836 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: players that should be nervous. I don't know if mine's 837 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: really that prominent, Gina, but I don't care. It's a 838 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: prominent position that swing TA talk about. Damian Williams of 839 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. He's all excited, he's all excited 840 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: about finally being like guy. He is the starting running 841 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: back right now for the Kansas City Chiefs. Carlos Hyde 842 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: is probably the backup, and they've talked up Damian Williams 843 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: is like this guy is He's gonna get a chance. 844 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: He looked really exciting last year. But when I think 845 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: of guys that should be nervous going into the draft, 846 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: it's not so much superstars with guaranteed money. It's guys 847 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: that have never really quite at an opportunity like Damian 848 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: Williams and he's thinking, this is my chance. And the 849 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: Chiefs are in this weird spot with the Tyreek Hill 850 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: situation hanging over their heads. Uh. You know, they adapted 851 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 1: to life without Kareem Hunt quite well. Their their offensive 852 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: lines a little bit in transition. Uh. I just think 853 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: that they're gonna need another running back that they're not 854 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: going to go into the season with. Damian Williams is 855 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: their clear starter, even though I thought he looked great 856 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: last year. And that's a guy where one year as 857 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: the chief starter, could you know, change his life. I'd 858 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: be worried if Damian Williams wasn't almost a perfect fit 859 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: for the Andy Reid offense that they came out. The 860 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: one thing about Brett Veach, I feel like he says 861 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: what's on his mind. I don't think he's um at 862 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: the point where he's like spinning whispers left and right, 863 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: where he's able to fool everyone in the room. Like 864 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: all last offseason he kept telling us Patrick Mahomes like, 865 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 1: we're all in, we love me, He's the best player 866 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: we've ever seen. And they just went on and on 867 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: about Damian Williams that they love his fit, and they 868 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: love the way he played, and he costs next to nothing, 869 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: like he could have competition. But he's a good fit. 870 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: That's the If he wasn't, I'd be more concerned. I 871 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: feel like he should be cautiously optimistic about where he 872 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: is right now, right with an eye on the draft, like, oh, wait, 873 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: are they really going to let me? Because in it 874 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 1: all it would take is a third or fourth round 875 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 1: pick that you actually hit on and then that guy's 876 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,479 Speaker 1: you're starting week one. Yep, alright, one more time around 877 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: the horn. Mark, Well, Dan, I don't mean to do this, um, 878 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: because this is your guy. What was also like two 879 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 1: other people's guys in this room at various times, but 880 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 1: three time making the leap candidate Lamar Miller. I mean, 881 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: I know that, I know the Texans. Oh this is 882 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: one where I feel like they protest too much, where 883 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: they keep telling us that Lamar Miller is everything they 884 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: could ever asked for at the starting running back position. 885 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: But you look at that whole running back round. There's 886 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: injury questions around the rest of the crew and Miller 887 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: to me, you could cut him and it would cost 888 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: you one million dollars. Not that they need to cut him, 889 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: but it's just that he's not the future and there's 890 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: no reason not to grab another running back because they 891 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: also ignored, essentially outside of UM taking Matt Khalil and 892 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: free agency, their entire offensive line. So I don't know 893 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: where you get that running back. I'm not saying it's 894 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: a first round pick, but that position needs to be 895 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: addressed for a more balanced offense in Houston. I think 896 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller would be the odd man out at the 897 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: hit hit on someone Um. Greg. You and I were 898 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: standing next to each other when Pearl River native and 899 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: Texans general manager Brian Gaines spoke, and I remember it 900 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: registering in my head that he was kind of going 901 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: through the motions in terms of praising uh, Lamar Miller's 902 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: like he called him at three down back, and he 903 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: said that he almost ran for a thousand yards, as 904 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: if running for a thousand yards was almost And you 905 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: just got the feeling between his underwhelming season outside that 906 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: one Thursday night game and the Doctor Freeman coming off 907 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: the torn achilles in the back that there's gonna be 908 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 1: someone else in there, and the fact that they didn't 909 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: use free agency. I'd be really surprised if they didn't use. Um. 910 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: Let's see there, they pick twenty three, so they're right 911 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: in the Josh Jacobs area according to draft experts, and 912 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: then they have two second round picks fifty four and 913 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: fifty five. I would think of running back ends up 914 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: being picked there, and I can save six million by 915 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: cutting him, and they could use the money. Couldn't we 916 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: all well that kind of money? Please? I wouldn't be 917 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: here on Wednesday. You would quit if you were rich. 918 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: Now I would not. I would actually think would be 919 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: much more easy to do any job that you enjoy. 920 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: If you suddenly just for wicked rich, you'd start giving 921 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 1: more people a piece of your mind. That might be true, 922 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: a little guff, give people some guff. No one would 923 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: have any rule over me at on any level. Mark, 924 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: what do you think about the idea of Aunt Becky 925 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 1: doing time for the college admission scam? Do you think 926 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: she should gotta yell? Do you think she should go 927 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: to prison for this? Yes? Or no? Totally unrelated but money, No, 928 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: because I think that what would happen is she would 929 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: be put in one of those um, those very rich 930 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: people prisons where you're allowed to like uh mate with 931 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: your partner and read like books right off the tennis. Yeah, 932 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: it's like it's sort of like, are you describing the 933 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: rest of development? Yeah, it's like I I think that 934 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: anyone would want to be in that situation where you 935 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: don't really have any responsibility other than to read all 936 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: day long and eat meals and then you're out. Mark's 937 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: newtake prison. That's avat. I don't like. I don't like 938 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: what she did, um that whatever. I mean, it just 939 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: seems like a rich person type crime, like something else 940 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: should be done to her. All right, let's just curious 941 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: your thoughts. It's hard to follow. I actually I wanted 942 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: to see if I could get a defensive player in here. 943 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: Two time Pro Bowler Dolphins safety Rashad Jones coming off 944 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: labor SIR three struggles and coverage do thirteen million this year, 945 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: and they reportedly want to move Minca Fitzpatrick to safety. 946 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: If they draft another safety, Sean Jones might find himself 947 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: without a job. I can see that new coaching staff 948 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: shortly had quiet profusely sitting on his couch a quietly 949 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: had a you know, controversy. I don't even know if 950 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: we ever mentioned on this show where you know he 951 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: left the field last year. There was some Oh yeah, 952 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: remember you know, kind of are we in the fish stake? 953 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: I think I think we're back in the back in 954 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 1: the fish stake. Today he told that he pulled himself 955 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: from the game, kind of like our reverse when Santonio 956 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: Holmes got kicked out of the huddle. Wo. He counts 957 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: seventeen point one six million dollars against the cap this year. 958 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: That is insane. Would that make it more confident or 959 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,919 Speaker 1: less confident? I think they could and he doesn't gonna 960 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: get that money. If they caught him after June one 961 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: or trade him after June first, I think they can 962 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: save a ton of money. Um, I'd be Nois. I'm 963 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: gonna throw this name out there because I thought you 964 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: were gonna do it Mark, And I don't know what 965 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: Gregg's last one is, and I think we should hit him. 966 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: Um the Raiders, Derek Carr. Uh. It just as as 967 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: much as we're hearing all the all the positive things, 968 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: if Dave Gentleman has taught taught me anything in this 969 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: lost off season for the Giants, it's just not to 970 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: believe anybody when they say anything. Uh. And as much 971 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: as John Gruden has said positive things about Car, it 972 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,439 Speaker 1: comes down to this boys. It's been a long time 973 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: since this happened. I think the Jets had it back 974 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: in two thousand. Uh. One of my historians here can 975 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: help me out what the researchers a little bit of 976 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: research and help research. But the four first round picks 977 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: for the Raiders, and I'm thinking to myself, when a 978 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: team has a bounty like that, one of those four 979 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: first round picks won't be a quarterback. Certainly could happen. 980 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they could go all the courts, all different routes, 981 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: but I wonder if it's John Gruden's final domino in 982 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: this massive rebuild. I don't and I'm not saying I 983 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: think it should happen or I think it will happen, 984 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: But I think if I'm Derek Carr, I'm very nervous 985 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: for draft day because can I trust this guy? Do do? I? 986 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: I know, you know everyone's putting out the story that 987 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: we get along well, but can I trust him when 988 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: there are four first round picks on Here's why I 989 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: didn't put them at the top of my list. Was 990 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: like Rashad Jones number one, A hundred thousand dollars. They 991 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: say if they cut them and they lose all the 992 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: rest and dead money. And I looked at Derek carrs 993 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: they save a hundred thousand dollars if they cut them, 994 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: and they are on the hook for twenty two point 995 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: four millions, so you have to but they can keep 996 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: them this year. You could keep them and that right, 997 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: so you keep them this year and then you move 998 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: you can you can deal that down the road, or 999 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: you could try to move them, which we've discussed some 1000 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: scenarios that could potentially I growd into Grooden type thing 1001 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, but we don't here. There's no buzz around that. 1002 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,879 Speaker 1: But I agree with you that the visits we keep 1003 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: about with Oakland over and over our quarterbacks. They are 1004 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: looking at quarterbacks. It's not one of these teams where 1005 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: we've got our guy and there's no curiosity. There is 1006 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: a clear curiosity. And I thought it was interesting he did, 1007 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 1: uh you know, he did a little social media testing 1008 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: to the waters there, you know, just sending the eyes 1009 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: emojis last week when they were hosting Kyler Murray. So 1010 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: that's the guy that's nervous. And let me correct myself. 1011 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: They have three first round picks, but there um fourth 1012 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 1: pick in the draft is thirty five overall, So it's 1013 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: right out. It's right in the second beginning of the 1014 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 1: second round. So this is a team with four quarterbacks 1015 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: that everyone says we'll go top thirty, top forty, maybe 1016 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 1: top twenty. There are four names out there, and there's 1017 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: Derek Carr and John Gruden, who has been on a 1018 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: quest for you know, fourteen months in counting or whatever, 1019 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: rebuilding this roster in his own and his own image. 1020 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: Will he survived? You can also trade Derek Carr in 1021 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: October when someone's knee gets you know, absolutely removed from 1022 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: their body. Yes, always do that. Once again, Mark rooting 1023 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,399 Speaker 1: for injuries. No, I'm not rooting for it. I'm just saying, 1024 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: be smart with your trade options. Close it out. I'm 1025 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna go with James Conner. I think that the Steelers 1026 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: really fell part in part because they didn't have anyone 1027 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: behind James Conner. As I think James Conner is the 1028 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: third round pick behind the best offensive line in the league, 1029 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: and he's good. But are they going to go into 1030 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: the year just with James Conner and just hoping a 1031 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: that he can stay healthy, which you know, he had 1032 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: a lot of workload last year, and so I'm not 1033 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: going to kill him for not making it through the season, 1034 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,879 Speaker 1: but be they don't have anyone behind him at all, 1035 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 1: and it who knows the second or third round pick 1036 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: in this draft, which it's not top heavy at running 1037 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 1: back but fairly deep. I think they could bring in 1038 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 1: some competition for him. You're thinking overall workload, though it's 1039 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: not going to be replaced as the starter for good. 1040 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean he was a third round pick. I don't know. 1041 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't look, I don't view I think 1042 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: he's a great player, but I don't view him. If 1043 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 1: they did draft someone as someone that would be question 1044 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: that surprises. He was one of the most productive running 1045 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: backs in the league when he was healthy. He was 1046 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: really good. And it wouldn't be something where you would 1047 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: think the guy would come in and be a Week 1048 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 1: one starter. But are they going into the year with 1049 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: James Conner and Jalen Samuels and to me, running back 1050 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: of any position sometimes it was six, second, third, fourth 1051 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: round picks. I mean, we've seen it over and over 1052 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Or they come in and 1053 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: they're very productive, like James Conner or like Cream Hunt 1054 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: right away, and and and then he's got some some heat. 1055 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: That's a great situation to be in to be the 1056 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: running back on that team. Hell yeah, great line, great 1057 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: quarterback playmakers everywhere? Do it all right? Good talk, guys. 1058 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: One last thing, We've had several British listeners request that 1059 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: we talked about Christian Wade, rugby star who just signed 1060 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills on their international player program. And 1061 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: what do we think he's going to be. We have 1062 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: no idea. I mean, I've never seen him play rugby, 1063 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: much less play in the NFL. I will say that 1064 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: of all all the positions where talent matters more than skill, 1065 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: running back would be pretty close to the top. You 1066 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: could come in and do it. That said, until you 1067 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: see the guy play football, how will we know. I mean, 1068 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't see him coming in and unseating Lashawn McCoy 1069 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: kind of learned from an all time great and Frank 1070 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: Gore the right way to be a running back. I mean, 1071 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: we had Jared Hank come in with the forty Niners 1072 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 1: and he was supposed to be one of the better 1073 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 1: rugby players. I know, I'm gonna get all kinds of 1074 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 1: tweets union rugby versus League rugby and all these other 1075 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: different kinds of rugby. Whatever. This guy was hyped so 1076 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 1: much and like barely made an impact. What's funny you 1077 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: say you don't know you know what's gonna happen with him? 1078 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: I do, um two forty six yards this year, but 1079 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: next year becomes a legit international uh star success story 1080 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 1: one thousand fifty yards as the starter would be against 1081 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: him making the final fifty three man Brian game to 1082 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: be thrilled about that fifty yards killer. Alright, good rugby, 1083 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: talk good luck to that man, and uh we'll be 1084 00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 1: back on Thursday, our next uh time. We're all together. Well, 1085 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,919 Speaker 1: we're on NFL network every day now. Um, they're using 1086 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 1: us right now. And I made the analogy before the show. 1087 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: It's like you go to summer camp and you're all 1088 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're the pretty girl and and he 1089 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: wants to take you to the dance, and then you 1090 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: go back to school in September. And also you know 1091 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,439 Speaker 1: he's also back at school with everybody else, and he's 1092 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: not paying attention anymore. We're getting a lot of tension 1093 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: on network right now. That's good. What happens when we 1094 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,280 Speaker 1: go back to school, We're gonna get that same attention. 1095 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: It's a fair point, apt I think we're gonna get 1096 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: probably dumped. So you can check us out on Up 1097 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: to Up to the Minute on NFL Network Monday through Friday, UM. 1098 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: And our next time together here in the studio is 1099 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,240 Speaker 1: our Twitter Show, which again we haven't been great about 1100 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: promoting it, but also the Shadowy League figures have been 1101 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: moving this thing all around the dial. But right now 1102 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: we are on Wednesday morning, ten thirty a m. Pacific 1103 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: one thirty pm Eastern, and I believe that's six thirty 1104 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: in um London, London time over in the UK. I 1105 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: don't know that there's some five hours ahead of New York, 1106 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,399 Speaker 1: but there's a time that we didn't move with them 1107 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 1: on the daylight savings I believe. Anyway, I don't know. 1108 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: Check out the Twitter show and then our next podcast 1109 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: audio show will be Thursday. Connie Fox will be back 1110 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: with us. Um uh so check that out. All right, 1111 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: let's get out of here. Stan hands a signing off 1112 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the old Boss Ricky Hollywood 1113 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: behind the glass. Still was that