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Speaker 2: Not what should we do about it? What should we

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Speaker 2: It's become crystal clear to me over the past few

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, maybe that's a spring project. Jesse,

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Speaker 2: just come up with an acronym. We need a good name.

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Speaker 2: The rest of it will take care of itself. We

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Speaker 2: need a good name. We're jampacked, We're high a type

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Speaker 2: a sparkling downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Tonight, someone tells me big

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Speaker 2: meteor shower on tap tonight. That was the talk of

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Speaker 2: the staff today, not Week eight predictions or Week nine predictions.

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Speaker 1: Or hot seed.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about meteor showers. Not on the show tonight, though,

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Speaker 2: But we do have the JP pole on the show tonight.

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Speaker 2: We do have Week nine predictions. We do have a

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Speaker 2: ton of hot seat talk. I've got some coaching search updates.

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Speaker 2: We've got best bets. I've got a badly strained neck.

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Speaker 2: I'm all hopped up on fourteen kinds of medication. The

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Speaker 2: Those of you familiar with the seventy four super outbreak

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Speaker 2: And are we against action on this show. Absolutely no,

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Speaker 2: You know it is prediction Night. Okay, so we got

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Speaker 2: some big games this weekend. We're gonna be at Vandy

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of rumblings, a lot of whispers out there.

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Speaker 2: With many of these coaching searches, it's not always as

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Speaker 2: It's just not paint by numbers. A lot of times

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Speaker 2: So they need alignment to make the move. Nothing aligns

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Speaker 2: And if that's Saturday, then I think we know what's

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Speaker 2: Store paytstatematerial dot com. How about the fall don't lie

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Speaker 2: So you've got your left tackle out if you're LSU,

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00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 2: and yet you've still got to find a way to

432
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 2: grind out some yards just any way possible. Can you

433
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: achieve offensive balance? Can you make them respect the fact

434
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: that you can run the ball. You're one hundred and

435
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: seventeenth in rush yards per game. And because of that,

436
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: that leads to the fact that, and this is another

437
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: paper popper, LSU has the lowest play action rate in

438
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: the SEC. Why is that, kids, Well, because nobody thinks

439
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: you can run the ball, so it's a waste of

440
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 2: time to run play action. So not only can your

441
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: quarterback not really throw it at his full potential, everybody

442
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: knows when he's gonna throw it too, So it's no

443
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: coincidence that the offense stalls consistently. And if it's third

444
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: and five plus if it's a bunch of obvious passing

445
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: downs again, third paper pop here A and M is

446
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 2: tenth and pressure rate and fourth in sacks and your

447
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: left tackles out.

448
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Speaker 1: Did I mention that?

449
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 2: Yes, I did it. It doesn't hurt to mention it again.

450
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 2: Now LSU does have something going for him here, and

451
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: that is two things. Actually. Number one, it's college football,

452
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: so desperation and talent can do some funny things to

453
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: someone's performance. Number Two, LSU is really good at busting

454
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Speaker 2: the huge capbuster plays. They're fifteenth nationally in plays a

455
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: fifty plus yards offensively. They had one last week against Vandy.

456
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: Now the dude got tackled at the one yard line,

457
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: and with LSU, that doesn't make it a foregone conclusion

458
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 2: that they'll finish the drive as we saw. But if

459
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: you don't get that, I'm struggling to see where LSU

460
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: finds enough offensive traction to win this game. But the

461
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: follow up to that is, maybe LSU's offense struggles, but

462
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: maybe American hero Blake Baker in his defense comes to play.

463
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: So can A and m's offense scale at Night in

464
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 2: Death Valley against LSU's defense. By scale, I mean, for

465
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: a long time on this show, we have believed good

466
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: college football offenses can get totally shut down by good

467
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: to great college football defenses. But the highest level college

468
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: football offenses will score against anyone. They won't score fifty

469
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: against anyone. But there is a certain threshold, the freeze point,

470
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Speaker 2: if you will, past which water is gonna freeze. It's

471
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Speaker 2: just a matter of how long it takes to freeze,

472
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Speaker 2: but it will freeze. Well. Likewise, with offensive college football

473
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: past a certain point, the rules are such that you

474
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: can't shut it down totally. Is Texas A and M

475
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: one of those offenses, because we've seen a couple of

476
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 2: times this year where Auburn held them to sixteen that

477
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: they haven't. They haven't consistently put up those big numbers

478
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 2: against everyone, but they have the potential to. So if

479
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: they play their A minus or better game, question is

480
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: do they have the ability to scale that offense? And

481
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: it's very multi faceted. They can run the ball well,

482
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: they can throw the ball well. They've got a very

483
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: dynamic dual threat quarterback, multiple high level pass catchers. I

484
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 2: think the outcome here is pretty Marcel red dependent. I

485
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: think you know, I've watched Diego Pavia against LSU last week,

486
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: and he killed them with a lot of off structure stuff,

487
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: just the Diego Pavia stuff, stuff that's not written on

488
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 2: any play sheet or grease board, just stuff that he

489
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Speaker 2: made happen when the original play broke down.

490
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Speaker 1: Marcel Reid can do that.

491
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Speaker 2: But also I think they can just create chaos through structure,

492
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: so it in many ways, it may be the toughest

493
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: challenge of the season for LSU defensively, so that's something

494
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: to watch. And in Texas A and M, they have

495
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: probably as good a depth of weaponry as LSU has

496
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: seen all year, and ls you've seen some good receivers.

497
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they've seen a collection of pass catchers

498
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: slash tailbacks, some of whom can catch the ball really

499
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: well out of the backfield that Texas A and M has,

500
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: So A and M's going to feature theirs. You swing

501
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: back to LSU and you ask, are you guys going

502
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: to feature yours? If the name of the game offensively

503
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: is getting the ball in the right hands of playmakers,

504
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: why doesn't LSU get the ball in the hands of

505
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: their playmakers more? That kind of goes back to what

506
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: I was talking about about there being a lack of

507
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: discernible design behind the play calling, and it just looks

508
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: like you're calling plays for the sake of calling plays.

509
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 2: And this is pretty rudiment stuff because I don't really

510
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: question play calling on the show. I've never really done it.

511
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: But philosophically, anybody can question that. You don't have to

512
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: know a whole lot about football to know Hold on.

513
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: So you put eleven out there, and some of them

514
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: have a job of blocking, and then there's some of

515
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 2: them who just mainly run the ball, some of them mainly.

516
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: Catch the ball.

517
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: There's one guy who throws it or hands it off.

518
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: But you're trying to score, right, Yeah, So you want

519
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: to have the ball in the hands of the people

520
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: that give you the best chance to score.

521
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: Right.

522
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: Yes, this is offensive football. It really doesn't have to

523
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: be more complicated than that. Sometimes when you have the

524
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: kind of skill that LSU has, they've made it more

525
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: complicated than that. Also, it is more complicated than that.

526
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what the model thinks. FanDuel

527
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: has A and M as a two and a half

528
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: point favorite right now. Our model has it at a

529
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: pick them because our model still respects LSU. There's a

530
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: lot of dynamics in play here, remember this, so we

531
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: take into account many things. We take into account that

532
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: ls you was at home in a desperation spot, so

533
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: they're in a due up spot off a loss. There's

534
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 2: a lot of noise they need to quiet. So you're

535
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: gonna get an all in effort from that coaching staff

536
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: this week. You're gonna get a back against the wall effort,

537
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: we think from that roster this week. Second time on

538
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: the road in two weeks is always a tough spot

539
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: in college football. The whole death valley at night thing matters.

540
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: I think the model may have overweighted that a little

541
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: bit because I took all of it into account. And

542
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: I still think A and M is gonna win the

543
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: game and cover. So give me Texas A and M

544
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: to win, Give me Texas A and M to cover.

545
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: And I keep sitting here saying I don't think anyone's

546
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: gonna go undefeated. I don't think any SEC teams going undefeated,

547
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: and yet I keep picking A and M to win.

548
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: So far they have, I keep picking them to whim.

549
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: Now they do have some tough games after this, and

550
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: maybe they'll lose at Missouri.

551
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

552
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: Are they ever going to play in college station again.

553
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take A and M to win. Close game.

554
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Not a strong feel there. Let's continue moving on. Let

555
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 2: me take a sip of water, right quick, got the

556
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: whole jug on the show tonight.

557
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who it is. It's Publics.

558
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: We appreciate them for not sponsoring the show, although they could.

559
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's continue Saturday at high noon Eastern time

560
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: on ABC, we have Ole miss at Oklahoma. Just banger

561
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: after banger in the SEC. Is that SEC bias? No, Mitch,

562
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: just using my eyes to look at the slate really

563
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 2: is all it is. This feels like a college football

564
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: playoff game. It really feels it's not an elimination game.

565
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: Both teams, well especially Ole Miss, would still be very

566
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: much in the hunt.

567
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: If they lost the game.

568
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: But it feels like the winner of this one is

569
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: in it for everything, and I'm not sure we're going.

570
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: To see the loser of this game in the postseason.

571
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: That's how it feels to me. Seasons are not linear. Okay,

572
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: So I was very high on Oklahoma in the preseason,

573
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: and then out of nowhere, like sting from the rafters

574
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: in the nineties, I picked them to lose to Texas,

575
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: and then I kind of foreshadowed a possible tough trip

576
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: to Columbia last week. And everyone think I'm down on

577
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma now, No, no, no, no.

578
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: First off, Matier got hurt.

579
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: You all know that the Texas game, for a million reasons,

580
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: I thought was easy to see coming. You rebounded nicely

581
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: last week. But seasons are not linear. You don't just

582
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: start here and then finish here. It's very very much

583
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: up and down and up and now you just hope

584
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: to have more ups than downs. So did ole Miss peak?

585
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Maybe Ole Miss peaked early in the season, and maybe

586
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: their descent started last week and we just don't really

587
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: realize it. Yet maybe maybe Oklahoma already dipped and they're reascending.

588
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: These things could be in the process of happening. I

589
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: just think we got another ranked versus ranked matchup at

590
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: eleven am local time, and I'm all in for it.

591
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: So Oklahoma right now. A couple of things as we

592
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: get into the preview that I would greatly prefer these

593
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: teams invert.

594
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Two paper pops.

595
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma one hundred and sixteenth in turnover margin. Don't like that,

596
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: Ole Miss one hundred and eighteenth in penalties. Don't like

597
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: that either. So what do we think here? Well, I

598
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: assume most of the country is thinking about Lane Kiffen

599
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: versus Brent Venables. I am too, but it's not where

600
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: my mind goes first and foremost in this matchup. I'm

601
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: thinking about Oklahoma's offense. I'm thinking about Ben Rbuckle versus

602
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: Pete Golding and the old mess defense. Because what John

603
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: Matteir did last week was enough.

604
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: He did enough.

605
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: He was eighteen of twenty six one hundred and fifty yards.

606
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: But over the past two weeks a critical part of

607
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: his game has been kind of on mute, and that's

608
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: the running portion of his game. Twenty two carries for

609
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: nineteen yards the last two weeks. So is that just

610
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: the new normal there or are we going to see

611
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: a breakout performance running the ball again? Not to mention,

612
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: we don't really know if he's In fact, we pretty

613
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: well know he's not one hundred percent throwing the ball yet,

614
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: but hopefully you're healing towards being one hundred percent again.

615
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: There they found success running last week, and ole Miss

616
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: has the ninety ninth ranked rushing defense in the country

617
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: right now. Now, ole Miss, that defense was on the

618
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: play or on the field for eighty plays last week.

619
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: This is important because that eighty plays has always been

620
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: a lot to play. In the modern age of college football,

621
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: when the games are more compressed and there are fewer

622
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: plays being run, not many people, not many teams are

623
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: on the field for eighty plays anymore. So you're going

624
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: back to back road right here. You're in Athens last week,

625
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: you're in Norman this week, and you're coming off having

626
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: played eighty plays defensively, and you got an Oklahoma team

627
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: here pretty desperate. Just just keep that in mind, especially

628
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: as that second half approaches.

629
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: So here's a catch. I got several of them.

630
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: The catch was for Oklahoma last week was good enough

631
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: because last week you played South Carolina and you could

632
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: pretty well rest assured that if you didn't turn the

633
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: ball over, if they did and scored defensively or on

634
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: special teams, twenty points was probably going to be good enough.

635
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: And it was more than enough. I'm not sure twenty

636
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: points is good enough against Old Miss. Could be defense

637
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: is really good there. I would not bank on twenty

638
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: points being good enough. Okay, here's a catch to that catch.

639
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's got the number one total defense in the country,

640
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: number one overall pressure rate in the country, so maybe

641
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: they will crowbar in the bicycle spokes for Ole Miss.

642
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: But there is a catch to the catch to the catch.

643
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: Get to follow me here. It's very high level intellectual stuff.

644
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: Old Mess has only allowed seven sacks all year, that's

645
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: number two in the SEC. And Trinidad Chambliss is a

646
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: lot bigger threat with his legs, plus has better weapons

647
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: to achieve explosiveness than any of the aforementioned teams, especially

648
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: South Carolina last week. So a lot of catches here,

649
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of things that could be but

650
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: maybe not. But explosives I think are the padlock stat

651
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: in this game. I do think when we're sitting here Sunday,

652
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: especially as it relates to ole mess.

653
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: They have to have achieved these.

654
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: They are the number nine offense in the country in

655
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: explosive play rate. Oklahoma is the number nine defense in

656
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: the country in explosive play rate. Brent Venables at home

657
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: with pressure against a very young quarterback normally doesn't work

658
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: out good. And that's even if he hadn't stolen your signals. Yes,

659
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: I heard it, Yes, I heard it. I heard it

660
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL. See you think I don't watch the NFL.

661
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: I never miss a forty nine Ers Jaguars game. I

662
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: never miss a forty nine Ers press conference during a

663
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: game week. So everything Lane Kiffin said earlier this week

664
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: about Brenton Venables, Hey, man, I heard him talk about

665
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: it three weeks ago in the NFL. He was just

666
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: reading the same script, don't let him steal your signs.

667
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say. It was nice

668
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: of him to let Hugh Freeze know after the fact

669
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: that oh, you had their signals though.

670
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: That was very nice of him.

671
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: This is a been R Buckle game for Oklahoma. It's

672
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: a been R Buckle game cause if they can make

673
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: some business happen here, especially if we can reignite the

674
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: running portion of John Mattier's game. I think the game

675
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: sets up fairly well for Oklahoma. Let's take a look

676
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: at what the model thinks. FanDuel's got Oklahoma minus four

677
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: and a half. Now occasionally I just flat out throw

678
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: the model in the trash, and the model loves ole miss.

679
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: This week, loves ol miss. In fact, we've got oh

680
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: so Fandel's got Oklahoma minus four and a half. The

681
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 2: model has Oklahoma minus one and a half. It almost

682
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: makes the game a pick him. I disagree. I disagree.

683
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: So all the stock everyone thinks I sold on Oklahoma,

684
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: I didn't, and it's just been in my pocket. I'm

685
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: pulling it all out immunity. Give me Oklahoma to win,

686
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: give me Oklahoma to cover.

687
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: We are back. We're back this week. We're back.

688
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: We're a playoff contender again. After this week, do not

689
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: embarrass me. They're watching us in Winston Salem, North Carolina, Fresno, California,

690
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: and winter Park, Colorado is tuned in about to be

691
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: a busy time of year, and win Park That's not

692
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: where I'll be Saturday. I will be in Nashville, Tennessee Saturday.

693
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: Why because the Fall Don't Lie Tour presented by Quick

694
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: Trip is headed right back to where it headed last week.

695
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: Vandy Homers. We are a Vandy Homer show. Now Missouri

696
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 2: coming into town and we will be there Saturday, three

697
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: thirty Eastern, two thirty local kickoff just down the street

698
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: from where we are right now. Bradley could ride his

699
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: bike to the stadium in five minutes. This game kicks

700
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: off on ABC at two thirty local time. So two

701
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: of six SEC teams with one conference loss. That's what

702
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: we have here, That's what we have on display.

703
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 1: Saturday, we got.

704
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: College game Day in town.

705
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: How about that? A lot of the guys just get

706
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: to drive to the game like we do.

707
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: This is another example across the SEC this week. It's

708
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: the third example already in the show, and we're only

709
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: thirty five minutes in of a team in the SEC

710
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: on the second leg of back to back road games.

711
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: Make of that what you will.

712
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Which side of the.

713
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: Mirror wins this game? It is shocking how similar these teams'

714
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: profiles look. So I'm thinking to myself, you look in

715
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: the mirror and the dude staring right back at you

716
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: is you, and in this game's case, that's kind of

717
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: team versus team. They are run first teams with quarterback mobility.

718
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: They are very very high third and fourth down conversion

719
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: rate teams. They're both top five in the nation in

720
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: those departments. They are more opportunistic than elite, I would

721
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: say defensively, but they're both top ten in pressure rate

722
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: without blitzing, So they've got dynamic enough athletes up front

723
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: to get home by just bringing four. They've both lost

724
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: to Alabama and that's it. And there's been some chatter

725
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: around both head coaches for other jobs. So where's the

726
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: separation here? Well, I don't know until they start to

727
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: play the game. And I do have a suspicion that

728
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: I'll talk about in just a second. But I don't

729
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: think you need to overthink the room on this game.

730
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: This is going to be some groundbreaking analysis I'm about

731
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: to give you. I like the team that grabs the lead.

732
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 2: Like I said, buckle up, buckle up, because we're hitting

733
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: you with the kind of analysis that you're not getting

734
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,479
Speaker 2: most other places. Who gets to play with the lead here?

735
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: If there's so much similarity, who gets to play with

736
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: the lead. They're both top twenty five and first half scoring,

737
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: So it could be either one. How effective is the

738
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: Missouri pass rush? Because if you can get Vandy in

739
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: third and five plus, and I have a suspicion they

740
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: can do it because of who they faced all year,

741
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: you give yourself a lot better chance to win. And

742
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: Missouri for all the hype Diego Pavia gets, and he

743
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 2: should get every bit of it. Remember who Missouri's played

744
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: this year. They've played Jalen Daniels for Kansas and he

745
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: had ten carries for twenty five yards. They've played Jackson

746
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: Arnold at Auburn he had seventeen attempts for fourteen yards.

747
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: They have played Leonora Sellers, they held him to mind

748
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: twenty eight yards. They faced some mobile guys at quarterback already.

749
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 2: Now Diego Pavia would watch that and say, I don't care.

750
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: None of them are me. They may not be, but

751
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: it's not going to be a shock to Missouri's senses.

752
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: I'll just say that, Could Vandy's defense be a little

753
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: more vulnerable than we give them credit for against the run?

754
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: Now that's a question I don't know the answer to.

755
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: Here's my concern right now. If I'm going with Vanderbilt

756
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: they're number twelve in the country and run defense very good,

757
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: very respectable unit. The problem is when you dive in

758
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: a little bit, if they are vulnerable against the run,

759
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: I don't know who will have exposed them. Because Bama's

760
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: in the one hundreds in rushing numbers LS using the

761
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: one teams, South Carolina is in the one twenties. Missouri

762
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: can run the ball now. Ahmad Hardy has been a

763
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: little off the last couple of weeks against Bama and

764
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Auburn relative to what he's shown he is capable of

765
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: last two weeks, thirty six carries for barely over one

766
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: hundred yards come by, and he had one hundred or

767
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 2: more in every game up until that point. So if

768
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: the Missouri ground game is there, one of the things

769
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: to watch early on is are they gash and Vanderbilt

770
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: very suspiciously like the kind of thing that's not supposed

771
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: to happen to a top fifteen run defense. If that's

772
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: the case, we may have found some openings that were

773
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: always there and just hadn't been exposed yet, Or maybe

774
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt's number twelve run d ranking is totally legit got

775
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: to find that out. Vandy's one hundred and third in

776
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: the country in penalties, Missouri's thirty eighth. Let's go to

777
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: the model. Vandy minus two and a half at FanDuel

778
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: right now is the number. Ladies and gentlemen, we think

779
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: the wrong team is favored. Well, by we, I mean

780
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: the model. The model thinks the wrong team is favored.

781
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: Now the model last week, remember, led me to LSU

782
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: and we already had the graphics ready and Bradley was

783
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: ready to punch the button and it was going to

784
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: say on the bottom of the screen, I'm taking LSU

785
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: to win and cover. And I had a change of

786
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: heart right here. I don't know that it's ever happened before.

787
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: I had a change of heart. Something spoke to me.

788
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: Who knows, Maybe someone spoke to me and said Vanderbilt.

789
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: And I took Vandy, and I looked like a genius,

790
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: and Vanderbook won and vander Brook covered. Maybe I should

791
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: do it again, but I'm not doing it again. I'm

792
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: taking Missouri to win, and I'm taking Missouri to cover

793
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: because if they win, then they have done that. And

794
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: I am just gonna say as humbly but as forcefully

795
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: as possible. If we go to another Missouri game and

796
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: Eli Drinkwitz can't get it done. He is not the problem.

797
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: We are the problem, and we will have to forsake

798
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: Missouri until further notice. I think that's completely fair. Okay,

799
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: if we pick you, that means we believe in you.

800
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: And if we believe in you and you let us down,

801
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: you fool us. Want strike one, fuollst twice, strike three,

802
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: as Mema would say. Academy Sports and Outdoors has never

803
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: let us down. And that's a fact. Missouri may implode

804
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 2: in on themselves like a dying star Saturday, or maybe

805
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: they'll win. Academy will be open either way. And Academy

806
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: friend of the program, but also a friend of the

807
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: military and friend of first responders. And the way I

808
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: know that a rare Academy paper pop is because on

809
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 2: this sheet of paper in front of me, because it's

810
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: written in hand by me. Military and first responders get

811
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: ten percent off in store and online purchases through November eleventh,

812
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: eleven eleven. Very easy to remember. Ten percent off?

813
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: How about that?

814
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: And I know good and well, you guys need it anyway?

815
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: What is it?

816
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: Well?

817
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: A number of different things they have there. Do you

818
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: need a new tent? You need a new baseball bat.

819
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: Do you need some big league Chew? Has someone somewhere

820
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: out there strategically weighted until this time to get ten

821
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: off their big lead, Chew? If you have more power

822
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 2: to you, In fact, I would love to talk about

823
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: a business proposition with you. We'll do that off air,

824
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: though appreciate academy sports and outdoors. It is the time

825
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: of the show where we have to well, we have

826
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: to call out some casuality, not a casualty, casuality front

827
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: of the program. Todd Furman is getting drug all over

828
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: the internet, and I, as the future commissioner of this sport,

829
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: cannot stand by and let this happen without participating. So

830
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: Todd took to Twitter last night in front of God

831
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 2: and everyone, and he said, and I quote, college football

832
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: parody is great until we get USF versus Georgia Tech

833
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: in the first round of the playoff, and nobody watches.

834
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong, tell me I'm an elitist, but

835
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: the ratings won't lie. And I read that, and the

836
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: first thing I did was I gave it five minutes

837
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 2: because I thought to myself, Todd's a smart guy, Surely

838
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: he'll delete that. And I came back five minutes later,

839
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: and unfortunately it was still there, which left me no

840
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: other option. You see what he said on the second line,

841
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong, tell me I'm an elitist. Well,

842
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: I responded to Todd, Todd, you are wrong, and you

843
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: are an elitist. Now I like Todd from in a lot,

844
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: friend of the program, friend of mine. This goes back

845
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 2: to a couple of memoisms that I got to drop

846
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: on his head tonight. First memoism is the classic buffet rule,

847
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: and that is that everything is not for everyone. Most

848
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: people at the buffet are gonna hone in on the

849
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: prime rib. Most of them are getting to cut of

850
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 2: the prime rib. Not everyone likes Candied Yams. But if

851
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: you like them, or if I like him, do you

852
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: or I really care if anyone else likes him? In fact,

853
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: in the buffet case, we would prefer no one else

854
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: like them, so we get them all, not necessarily an

855
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: Apples to Apples or a Yams Toms comparison to the

856
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: way the playoff works. But my point remains, I don't

857
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: care really if you don't like it or anyone else likes,

858
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: as long as I like it. So the second thing,

859
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: and it's this kind of an evergreen statement on the

860
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: show that we have to use every now and then,

861
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: mainly for people we love, like Todd is smart. People

862
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,479
Speaker 2: say casual things. Casual people rarely say smart things. Todd

863
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: Furman is not a casual He is a very smart guy.

864
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: He happens to have set a casual thing here. Now

865
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: I know the point he was trying to make, So

866
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: there's a lot of truth to what he's saying. What

867
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: he's saying is hey, at its core, If USF and

868
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech play in the first round of the playoffs,

869
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: far fewer people will watch that than if it was

870
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: Ohio State Tennessee. Well, of course that's true. Here's the

871
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 2: follow up. It doesn't matter. Todd doesn't run a network,

872
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: nor do I, so I don't know why he would care,

873
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: nor why I would care about what our TV rating

874
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 2: is going to be. Keep this up for just a second,

875
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: Bradley immunity. So let's read. Let's read a couple of

876
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: things he said there. He said college football parody is great.

877
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: Think most of us agree with that. But notice the

878
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: last thing he said, ratings won't live. Those two things

879
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: are the fundamental flaw the greatness of college football has

880
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: nothing to do with TV ratings unless you're a television executive.

881
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: And if you're a television executive, if you're one of

882
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: the high level mustaches, what makes college football great to

883
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: you is different than what makes it great to us.

884
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: Many people who profit off this sport because of the

885
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 2: media rights attachment don't really love the sport for the sport.

886
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: They love it for the profitability. I'm not even demonizing

887
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: these people.

888
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: I would just greatly.

889
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: Suggest that if you love the sport for the sport,

890
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: if you grew up watching it as a kid, like

891
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: I know good Andwill Todd Furman did, and like most

892
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: of us did, why in the world have you divorced

893
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: yourself from your own baked in passions and loves and

894
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: adopted that of a network executive. What do you care

895
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: if the ratings are low? What do you care if

896
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: no one watches? Question?

897
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy it?

898
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: Would you enjoy you personally? Would you enjoy watching Alex

899
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: Golish get a shot on the road on a Friday

900
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: night in Atlanta against Brent Keat, both of whom are

901
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: in the playoffs as head coaches for the first time?

902
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: Would you Todd Ferman watch that yes, yes, and you

903
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: text me all throughout the game because you know I'd

904
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: be watching too. Why do you care if anyone else

905
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: is watching? I don't.

906
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't.

907
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: If you're enjoying something, do you ever care if anyone

908
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: else is? You understand where I'm going with this. Okay,

909
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: we're talking about sporting events here. Keep it clean, Keep

910
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 2: it clean. And there's an understanding with college football. Even

911
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: the least watched playoff game is being watched by millions

912
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: of people. So if you're some kind of person who

913
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: really does desire that communal feel, they are going to

914
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: be millions of other people watching this game if they

915
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 2: put it on at three am. It's it's not gonna

916
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: match Alabama versus Michigan or anything like that, but it's

917
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: gonna get a pretty nice TV rating. It's gonna do

918
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: a lot better than Matlock's doing on TV Land. And

919
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: we all know how great Matlock is so USF Georgia Tech.

920
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 2: If it's forty percent of the audience for the biggest

921
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: first round game, but you love it, what does it

922
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: matter if anyone else loves it? College football greatness is

923
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 2: on display when the sport is on display, Like college

924
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: football greatness is when the best of the sport is

925
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: on display. And that's not the same thing as high viewership,

926
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: because high viewership is just when there's a mass interest

927
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: that gets peaked, and a lot of times that means

928
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: drawing in the casual audience, the audience that watches the

929
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: big brands, the audience that couldn't tell you the name

930
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: of any of the players or anything like that, and.

931
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that.

932
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: And some of the high profile matchups will draw that crowd.

933
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: And then there are there are other matchups like this

934
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: one that would be mainly for the diehards and the

935
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 2: p ones as we would call them, and the sickos

936
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: and whatnot. That's okay, which crowd would you rather hang

937
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: out with? You're one of us? Todd Furman's one of us.

938
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: This tweet may not make it look like it, but

939
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 2: Todd Furman is one of us. And here's something else

940
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: we know. It's a twelve team playoff, okay, So if

941
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: you get a USF in there, and you get a

942
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech in there, that comes with the understanding that

943
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 2: it's loaded up elsewhere with SEC and big ten teams

944
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: and God created the semi finals in the championship game

945
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: for a reason, and it's because these teams are probably

946
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: long since filtered out by that point. So you're gonna

947
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: get your George's. You know, you're gonna get your Ohio

948
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: States and Texas's, maybe not this year in Alabama's. You're

949
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: gonna get your big brands at the end of the day. Heck,

950
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 2: most of the first round will be made up of them.

951
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: But if I'm about to sit here and listen to

952
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: someone say it's a bad thing, it's to the detriment

953
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: of college football. If Brent Key and Georgia Tech are

954
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 2: playing against Alex Golie USF in the first round, don't

955
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: let it be someone I like saying that there are

956
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: plenty enough casual minded people out there that could spot

957
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: off that nonsense. I don't need the Todd Furmans of

958
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: the world trafficking in that.

959
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't need it. Now, here's the good news for Todd.

960
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: He's a really sharp guy and he defended himself, but

961
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: really he knows he messed up on this one, and

962
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: that's okay.

963
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: That's okay because as.

964
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: Future commissioner of this sport, if you've built up enough

965
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: goodwill and equity in our community.

966
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: You get a couple of mulligans.

967
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: So here it is October twenty first, I think he

968
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: tweeted that yesterday, so retroactive to October twentieth, we have

969
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: officially applied one of Todd Furman's mulligans for the year.

970
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: And that's it. Hands clean and we all move on

971
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 2: and we yell, go Jackets or go Bulls. Come December,

972
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: watch that matchup happen. Now, well, just watch it happen.

973
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: If it happens, does he attend the game? Do we

974
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: get him credentialed? Does he come to the game with

975
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: us our balls in his court? What's gonna happen at Florida? Sorry, Bradley, Yeah,

976
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm moving on now. What's gonna happen at Florida? The

977
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: job's open, there's no speculation, there's no hot seat talk anymore.

978
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: Billiy Napier has been fired. I kind of completely agree

979
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: with the popular sentiment right now around this job. And

980
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: if you haven't been paying attention, let me get you

981
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: up to speed. It won't take long. The popular sentiment

982
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: with this job is they're gonna go after Lane Kiffin.

983
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: And that's the popular sentiment because Florida is going to

984
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: go after Lane Kiffin, and Lane Kiffin may end up

985
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: taking the job. Now this is a matter of much

986
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: debate and speculation right now, and I'm gonna get into

987
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: it in just a second, but I do want to

988
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: say that Pete Nakos has been doing a really good

989
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: job over and on three of updating this. I was

990
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: just reading some of his work before we went on air,

991
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: although I don't know why, because I could just go

992
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: BADGEROIM at his desk.

993
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: We work in the same.

994
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: Building, after all, and I did do that today, and

995
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: so one of the things he knows. One of the

996
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: things Pete noted that I think is one true is

997
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: that hiring a coordinator or a group of six coach

998
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: is not an option for Florida.

999
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: That's just their prerogative.

1000
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: They have decided we're not taking a chance on a coordinator,

1001
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 2: So we're not doing what Oregon did. We're not hiring

1002
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning and hoping it works out, even though it

1003
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: did work out for organ but we're not doing that.

1004
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: We're Florida.

1005
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: We don't have to take a risk, and we're not

1006
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: going back to the G five or group of six

1007
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 2: ranks because they just went to Louisiana and got Billy Napier,

1008
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 2: and some people wanted to call him blue Chip Billy,

1009
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: and some people wanted to call him sun Belt Billy.

1010
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: And now he's unemployed Billy. And so the boosters are saying,

1011
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: we're not doing that again. Hey man, John summerl may

1012
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: be a good coach, or Alex Golis may be a

1013
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: good coach, or Willie Fritz may be a good coach,

1014
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: but Willi Fritz is in the.

1015
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: Big twelve now.

1016
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: But they probably still don't know that we're not going

1017
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 2: that route. We want to proven winner, and that's Lane Kiffin.

1018
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: And if it's not Lane, then that's elij Rinkquit's at Missouri. Now.

1019
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 2: I would go down the list and give you five

1020
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: more names. I don't think they're getting past those two.

1021
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: One of those two guys is probably going to be

1022
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: the head coach at Florida. That's really not the point

1023
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: of contention here. Most of the time people are debating

1024
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: who's going to take the job at Florida. At the

1025
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: very least, I think most people understand who's going to

1026
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: get offered the job. The million dollar question, in fact,

1027
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: the ten or fifteen million dollar question, is will he

1028
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: take the job?

1029
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1030
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: I have I have a very very like fifty three

1031
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: forty seven percent type feel on this. My feel is

1032
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: he will take the job very slightly, very slightly. Now.

1033
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: Last year I was like ninety ten that if they

1034
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: offered him the job, if they had fired Billy last

1035
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: year and they had offered him the job, I thought

1036
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: Lame was going to go. There's still like a slightly

1037
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: larger part of me than not that believes he would

1038
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: take the job.

1039
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1040
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, because it could be that his mind

1041
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 2: sh changed, It could be that the landscape has changed.

1042
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: It could be that both things are true. It's what

1043
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: you gotta ask you stuff. Has anything really fundamentally changed here? Well?

1044
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: First off, we've got to ask were we right? Was

1045
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: I right last year? Would he have taken the job

1046
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: last year? Strong indications he would have, strong indications he

1047
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: would have, But we can never prove that. So let's

1048
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: just assume I was right and he would have taken

1049
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: it last year. Will he take it this year? There

1050
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: are some people who think he would because Florida is

1051
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: a better job. There are other people who think that

1052
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: Florida is a better job. But it's not that much

1053
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: better that he should leave Old Miss. There are other

1054
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: people who think Florida's not a better job than Ole

1055
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: Miss at the very least, it's negligible. And there are

1056
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: some other people who probably just think Old Miss is

1057
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: the best job in the world.

1058
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: What does Lane Kiffin think?

1059
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: Because he's the only candidate therefore, he is the only

1060
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 2: opinion that matters here.

1061
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: But to the people who will.

1062
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 2: Come in the comments section, and I respect you, guys,

1063
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: I just told you, I don't know what he's gonna do,

1064
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: but I know I'm going to kind of get ahead

1065
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: of it because I assume where you're going to go

1066
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: with this. I know there are some people, many people,

1067
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: thousands of people actually will be in my comments and

1068
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: they will say, why would he take that job? Why

1069
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: would you leave Old Miss where you already have everything

1070
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: set up the way you want it to take the

1071
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: Florida job? And I thought Shane Matthews did a really

1072
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: good job. Yes, he's a former Florida player, but a

1073
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff he laid out he was doing

1074
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: either a radio show or a podcast. I mean, Shane

1075
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: laid out a lot of stuff that you can't really

1076
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: push back on all that much. He talked about how

1077
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: the facilities are better there. I've been in both places.

1078
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: Florida's got incredible facilities. They're brand new, so it's better

1079
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: there than it is at Old miss Geography, if you

1080
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: prefer to live in Florida, I mean, there's some people

1081
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: who would prefer to live in Oxford, Mississippi, over Gainesville.

1082
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: Most people would probably prefer Florida. But look, man, Oxford,

1083
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: Mississippi is a really nice place. So like that may

1084
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: be more a matter of opinion. So I'll grant you that.

1085
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: If you're pushing back on that. The alumni base is

1086
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: bigger at Florida, if that matters to you. The game

1087
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: day environment unequivocally is better at Florida. In stadium, now

1088
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 2: you can go hang out in the grove indefinitely, and

1089
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: that's about as amazing a scene as there is in

1090
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: college football. They don't decide third and eight in the grove.

1091
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: They decide it in the stadium, and the swamp is

1092
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: second to know when it comes to that. The media

1093
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: market proximity, again, this doesn't matter to fans, it don't

1094
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: matter to some coaches, but it may matter. But when

1095
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: you keep stacking that stuff on top of each other

1096
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: there's a solid argument to be made there Florida is

1097
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: the better job. Here's the question, does Lane Kiffin care

1098
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: about any of that?

1099
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: That's really all that matters.

1100
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: The case can be made as to why, generically a

1101
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: coach would leave Ole Miss for Florida, But that's a

1102
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: generic coach. Lane Kiffin's not generic. He is a specific

1103
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: person here. And the thing that I wonder, there's one

1104
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: word that matters here to me, it's legacy. How much

1105
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: does that matter to Lane Kiffin? So a couple of

1106
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: things I wonder. I wonder if he's made up his mind,

1107
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: because there's one thing for to be a theoretical there's

1108
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: another thing for it to be an actual. And you know,

1109
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: as well as I do, any of the big decisions

1110
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: you've ever made in your life, you could theorize at

1111
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: all you want to. When someone puts a piece of

1112
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: paper in front of you, sign it yes or no,

1113
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: only then do you really find out.

1114
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: Where your heart's at.

1115
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,479
Speaker 2: So he may already know, or he may think he knows.

1116
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: That's when you'll find out. And I just wonder what

1117
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: legacy means to him. This is kind of the case

1118
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: I would make if I roll Miss Yes, are there

1119
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,479
Speaker 2: are edges that Florida has, but this is twenty twenty

1120
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: five college football. Those are not the edges they used

1121
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: to be if this were nineteen ninety seven, if this

1122
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: were twenty ten, it's understandable. It's twenty twenty five, and

1123
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 2: truth be told, our NIL structure may be even better

1124
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: built right now than theirs. Is Ole miss was ahead

1125
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: of the curve and has been ahead of the curve

1126
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: on that front. The Florida folks would push back and say, yeah, well,

1127
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: how many staffers have you lost that you want to retain?

1128
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: How many have we lost down here? And we had

1129
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 2: a guy on en route to being fired. Yours can

1130
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: stay there as long as he wants to, and he

1131
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: still can't retain staff. He would never have that problem here.

1132
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: And if we got the right coach here, the machine

1133
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: behind him that will build with NIL will dwarf anything

1134
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: you have. Okay, maybe that's true. How much does legacy

1135
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: mean to Lane Keifvin? Because right now Lane's been in

1136
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: Oxford for a while and he's at the pinnacle of

1137
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: his career. And if you're watching in real time, you

1138
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: never really know like you're in the good old days,

1139
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: you're in the prime of your career. But you got

1140
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: to think of it in like documentary terms. Fast forward

1141
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: thirty years. Your career, I would guess, is over. You're

1142
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: looking back on it, and there's a fork in the road,

1143
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: and you're either going to decide my life is in Oxford, Mississippi.

1144
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm the head coach at Old Miss, and if you

1145
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: decide to go that route, you'll end up winning several

1146
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,479
Speaker 2: more years at Old Miss and you will fundamentally alter

1147
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: that town and there will be stuff named after you

1148
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: in buildings and streets named after you one day if

1149
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: you do your job correctly. Okay, that's one. That's one

1150
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: path at the fork in the road. The other path

1151
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: is you want to find out how you would do

1152
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: at the University of Florida because you think you can

1153
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: win a national championship there and you're not sure you

1154
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: can win one at all Mess and that means more

1155
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: to you than legacy. I'm not saying either is wrong.

1156
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: I am quite literally asking what matters more. That's what

1157
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: you'll find out if this goes from theoretical to actual.

1158
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: If it's put in front of him, you have an

1159
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: offer in front of you to be the next head

1160
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: coach of the Florida Gators. Then and only then will

1161
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: you really find out and everyone's got everyone's got these

1162
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: slam dunk theories. Oh he'll absolutely take it, or oh

1163
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: he's not leaving. You don't know.

1164
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: He may not.

1165
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: Even know, or maybe he does, but if he does,

1166
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: by my estimation, he hasn't.

1167
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: Told many people.

1168
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: So we'll see. The good news is whether you live

1169
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: in Gainesville or Oxford, flex power generators can be there

1170
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: for you.

1171
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: Wops to amongst us saw that turn.

1172
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: We gave away a flex power generator at Vanderbilt's game

1173
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: last Saturday. We uploaded the video today if you want

1174
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: to check it out. The easiest trivia questions in the

1175
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: history of mankind. That's all you had to answered. Guy

1176
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: asked us, Wait a second, what's the catch. There's no catch, buddy,

1177
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: What do we ask him? We asked him name a

1178
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: Heisman winner that was under six feet tall. He went

1179
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: Manziel Dean, who was the team in twenty seventeen that

1180
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: claimed a national championship even hung a banner in their

1181
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: stadium UCF And who was the coach that won the

1182
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: most at Vanderbilt. I can't remember how we worded it

1183
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: prior to Clark Lee. It was James Franklin. That was it,

1184
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: that was all he needed to do. We gave him

1185
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: a brand new generator. I can't do that with all

1186
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: of you, but I can say if you go to

1187
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: my flexpower dot com forwards last Josh Pate, they got

1188
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: some really good deals over there, and I know last

1189
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: night our power went out. I don't even know why.

1190
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 2: Don't get caught. Don't get caught in the dark immunity. No, no, no,

1191
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: there's no need to live like that. This is the

1192
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: modern age. This is flex power. These are flex Power

1193
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: years here, so you can go to myflexpower dot com

1194
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: for slash Josh Paie, they got you covered. Jesse, you're

1195
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: under isscrewed. I'm sorry. JP Pole is out for week nine.

1196
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: Not rankings, not rankings, not rankings. These are not rankings

1197
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: at all. I think most of you are well in

1198
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: tuned with what this is by now. We have had

1199
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: a shocking little amount of controversy around the JP Pole recently,

1200
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: and it makes me proud, makes me really proud, because

1201
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: it makes me think most people have gotten with the

1202
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: programmer round here.

1203
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: There you go. These are not rankings. These are power ratings.

1204
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: I have the model right here. I don't always agree

1205
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: with the model. In fact, you're gonna see right off

1206
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: the bat, I don't agree with the model on the

1207
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: number twenty team. But what we're trying to figure out

1208
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: is who would be favored against two on a neutral field.

1209
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: And if you're wondering to yourself, why does that matter?

1210
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: I guess to you it doesn't matter. We just happen

1211
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: to have fun with it. We think it's a good

1212
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: predictive tool. For instance, we never had Alabama below Florida

1213
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: state after week one. We never dropped Texas below Oklahoma,

1214
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: even though the season started the way it did well.

1215
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: Since then, that's made a lot of sense. But in

1216
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: the moment we got criticized heavily for it. So let's

1217
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: dive in number twenty again. I can't stand behind this.

1218
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: The model still has Penn State at number twenty. Of course,

1219
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: drugs goes without saying I made pres I think, hand

1220
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: draw an asterisk and write the word drugs on the graphic.

1221
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: That's how in protest I am of my own model

1222
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: put in Penn State at number twenty. It's just how

1223
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: heavily it bakes in talent. And understand now most of

1224
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: the time, that makes sense, but when a team has

1225
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: tapped out, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

1226
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: But who knows, man, maybe Penn State, maybe there's going

1227
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: to be an inspired effort second half of the year.

1228
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: Penn State should not be number twenty even in a

1229
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: power rating. They shouldn't. Louisville' at nineteen, Vandy is at eighteen,

1230
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: USC seventeen, Utah sixteen.

1231
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: Notice, by the way.

1232
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: Miami got beat by Louisville the other night and everyone

1233
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: just trashed them for it, and they were thirteen and

1234
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: a half point favorites, and they had a bunch of turnovers.

1235
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: But I look at it and I say, if you

1236
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: have a bunch of turnovers against the top twenty team

1237
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: with a guy who has a coaching edge on most

1238
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: of the country in Jeff Bromp, you should lose. Like

1239
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: that's not a shocking result. And so as much as

1240
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: people may think, oh, Miami got too much credit for

1241
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: the Florida State when they may get they may be

1242
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: get a little bit too much criticism for the Louisville loss. Yes,

1243
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: I had them number one of the Commissioner's pull and

1244
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: I need to justify it somehow. Let's continue Number fifteen.

1245
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: LSU didn't move because people told us we had them

1246
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: underrated last week. No, we had them properly raided. So

1247
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: since we had them where they belonged, we don't need

1248
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: to move them until they're still number fifteen. Texas Tech

1249
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: is number fourteen. Oh, we got Tennessee thirteen, Missouri twelve,

1250
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma eleven. And now look at the top ten.

1251
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: Something notable has happened here. So Texas is the number

1252
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: ten team in the country, Ole miss is nine, and

1253
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: A and M is number eight. If you'll remember and

1254
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: trust me Billy Lucci does. As of the past several weeks,

1255
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: the model still had Texas over Texas, A and M.

1256
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: And now we have A and M ahead of Texas.

1257
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: So for the first time I think this year the

1258
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: model would favor Texas A and M over Texas. So

1259
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: congratulations to Mike Elko. You have arrived. This was the

1260
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 2: goal you guys have been working towards. The outcome this

1261
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: Saturday is kind of secondary, but the primary goal of

1262
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: being rated ahead of Texas and the JP poll has

1263
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: come to fruition. Congrats guys. Miami dropped to number seven,

1264
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: so they dropped four spots. But in terms of the

1265
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: raw power rating, we deducted two solid points. Well, the

1266
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: model deducted two solid points from Miami. That's a pretty

1267
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: big deduction. Frankly, and this is just my suspicion. I

1268
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: think the model may have dingmed Miami a little bit

1269
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: too much. It was a multi turnover game against a

1270
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 2: pretty good team. Now, I think what the model was

1271
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: baking in is that kind of performance is a hallmark

1272
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: of past Mario Christobaul teams. The model was thinking, maybe

1273
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: they've moved on beyond that. But since they exhibited that

1274
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: they haven't coming out of a bye week, well, now

1275
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: we got a yankin back down to earth. And if

1276
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: you know, if that's what you're thinking, it makes sense.

1277
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: That's just a little moment between me and the model. There,

1278
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 2: let's go five through one. Number five, Georgia, number four,

1279
01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: Bama number three, Oregon back up, back up four spots

1280
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: to number three. There, Indiana is two Ohio states one.

1281
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 2: So the heavily sec biased model that we have here

1282
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: has the Big ten with the top three teams in

1283
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: the country. What's its angle? What do we think Certainly,

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Speaker 2: certainly Bama and George are going to make a move here, right,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm starting to think the model doesn't

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01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: really recognize conference affiliation at all, and it just rates

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Speaker 2: teams blindly based on preset criteria. That's what I'm starting

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Speaker 2: to think is the case. If you want to know

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Speaker 2: how large the gaps are here, Georgia is five, so

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Speaker 2: Ohio State's number one. We've still got about a four

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Speaker 2: point gap between them and number two. Now here's what

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Speaker 2: I'm interested to find. This model is not powered by FanDuel.

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Speaker 2: That's a misconception. Sometimes this model is laying out these

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Speaker 2: teams as it would favor them on a neutral field. Now,

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Speaker 2: a lot of times it's going to very very closely

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01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: mirror what fan duel would have. And sometimes when you

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Speaker 2: just flat out don't believe one team could be favored

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Speaker 2: over another one, I'll go to fan Duel and I'll say, hey,

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Speaker 2: could you give me the hypothetical line just so it

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Speaker 2: backs us up.

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: But the reason I'm mentioning that is, let's say it's

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship game. Let's say it's Ohio State

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Speaker 2: versus Indiana. Do we really think Ohio State's only a

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Speaker 2: four point favorite against Indiana? A lot of you have

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Speaker 2: your own models out there. What would you make that game?

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Speaker 2: The model would have Ohio State minus four? What would

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Speaker 2: you have Ohio State versus Indiana?

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Speaker 1: Because that's a risk.

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Speaker 2: That's you're hanging Ohio State minus four, you know you're

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Speaker 2: going to take heavy Buckeye action. Now, one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest lies that people have ever told about Vegas in

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Speaker 2: general is that the point spreads they put out are

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Speaker 2: just meant to garner equal action. That is not the case. Okay,

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Speaker 2: every single week, there is a side in most games

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Speaker 2: that they're going to be heavy on, and I can't

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Speaker 2: think of one off the top of my head, but

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Speaker 2: like there have been several examples just in the past

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Speaker 2: few weeks of lines where as soon as they released it,

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Speaker 2: you know they're gonna take heavy money towards the favorite

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01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: or towards the dog. They're just more comfortable with their

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Speaker 2: position than the public position in those games. So in

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Speaker 2: the Ohio State Indiana game, if they really believe four

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Speaker 2: should be the number, they may tack on a half

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01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: point to a point towards Ohio State because they know

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Speaker 2: they got they got to charge a premium for people.

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Speaker 1: To bet the Buckeyes.

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Speaker 2: Because they're a public team, kind of like Dallas Cowboys

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01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: in the NFL. But it's not gonna be by much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can tell you confidently if Fanduels internal

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Speaker 2: numbers said Ohio State minus three and a half is

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Speaker 2: the real number, they're not putting Ohio State minus seven

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Speaker 2: out they're not. The reason that can't happen if you

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Speaker 2: just think this through logically, is because there are too

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Speaker 2: many other sharp people out there whose numbers would spit

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Speaker 2: out a true.

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Speaker 1: Points just like Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Just like FanDuel A lot of times, what you'll find

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Speaker 2: is there's this defense mechanism that people kick into when

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01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 2: they see that their team's not favored by as much

1341
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: as they think it should be, or maybe their team's

1342
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: an underdog, and they say, oh, that doesn't mean anything.

1343
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: That's not what Vegas really thinks. They're just trying to

1344
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: get equal action. As if as if the real Vegas

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01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: opinion would be like six and a half points detached

1346
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: from the number they put out. That never happens because

1347
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: just think it through for a second. FanDuel guys walk

1348
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: in the office and they look and they say, all right,

1349
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: our numbers suggest Ohio State about a four point favored

1350
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 2: against Indiana. However, we're going to put out Ohio State

1351
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: minus nine. Well if the real number, if the true

1352
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: numbers around Ohio State minus four. There are so many

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01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 2: sharp model based predictive types out there that understand what

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01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: the numbers should be that if fandueld even a field

1355
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 2: goal off of what their internal numbers actually said, the

1356
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Speaker 2: number we get hammered so quickly. It happened last week.

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01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 2: It happened with the Penn State. Iowa came last week.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: They put Penn State minus out and that thing crossed

1360
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: zero like that because enough people picked up on the

1361
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: fact that they had deviated off what the true.

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01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: Number should be too quickly.

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01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: So there are four points right now between Ohio State

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01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: and Indiana. There are four points between Indiana at number

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01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 2: two and Texas at number ten. So the gap between

1366
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 2: number one and number two, for the model's sake, is

1367
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: as why does the gap between number two and number ten.

1368
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: There is a ten point gap between number two and

1369
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 2: number nineteen, So there is not a lot of separation here.

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01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: It still looks the same. It's just Ohio State has

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01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: distanced themselves a little bit. You can go bet all

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Speaker 2: that at FanDuel. You can't bet the model at FanDuel,

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Speaker 2: but you can go bet on games at FanDuel, the

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Speaker 2: exclusive odds provider of the show. It is where we

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Speaker 2: bet the ROMANODL Express, which I'll give you in just

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Speaker 2: a second, and we appreciate them, and there is a

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 2: lot of shifting in the conference odds. I was looking

1378
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: at that today, I was looking at the Heisman market today.

1379
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 2: That one's starting to come into focus. But the Conference

1380
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: Championship odds and the Big twelve specifically fascinate me a

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Speaker 2: little bit. So you can go bet at all at FanDuel.

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Speaker 2: Okay, romin little Express And then we got to get

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Speaker 2: out of here. So I got on Arkansas the other night.

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01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 2: Arkansas plus one and a half was the game we

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01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: moved on the other night. Not so shockingly, that game

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01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: crossed zero shortly thereafter, and now Arkansas is a one

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01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite, but we got him at

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: one and a half point dog, So Arkansas plus one

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01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: and a half. We are adding these two games. Appalachian

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01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: State plus fourteen and a half. They are playing Old Dominion,

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01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: and we're adding Cal plus four and a half. Cols

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01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: flying cross country to go play at Virginia Tech. We

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01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: do not like Virginia Tech laying this many points right now.

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01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: I think that's a Friday night game in Blacksburg. That's okay.

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01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna take Cal plus four and a half.

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01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 2: All right. The show did go over an hour and

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Speaker 2: two minutes. The over hit by eight minutes, and I'm

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