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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, how's everybody doing on this Friday? You think

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Speaker 3: You're right about that, yeah, brown We we had a

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Speaker 3: quick mic check before we came on the air and

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Speaker 3: Brownie's mic did not work.

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Speaker 2: Well, we didn't have it plugged in, but you know,

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Speaker 2: we got to figured out right before he went on

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Speaker 3: Your eyes when you read the destroyer like you're having

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Speaker 2: Oh you know, and.

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Speaker 3: The first thing they always say is make sure it's

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Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, yours wasn't plugged in. Yeah that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we'll be good from here on out though.

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Speaker 2: Now that we're back in studio with training camp, reaching

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Speaker 2: a conclusion, operation operations shift here to One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 2: Right up, until we hit the regular season. And the

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Speaker 2: players had a walk through session today in advance of

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Speaker 2: their pre season opener. Because we are here.

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Speaker 3: I told Bobby Babbage I had five bucks, says he

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Speaker 3: gets caught with ten on the field. Now, wait, I

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Speaker 3: mean that's what today was all about for these guys.

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Speaker 3: They send out a personnel group in the game. Yeah

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Speaker 3: you're down, who's up? You know, and they got all

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Speaker 2: I have to tell you this, the phase of the

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Speaker 2: game that has the most challenging time in the preseason

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Speaker 2: is unequivocally special teams because of all the different people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because here's the problem. Here's what you think. So

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Speaker 3: on offense, you've got like fourteen starters. I know there's

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Speaker 3: know that kind of stuff. So you got like fourteen

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Speaker 3: guys that know that on the first snap of the

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Speaker 3: they have like fourteen guys there, So that's you know,

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Speaker 3: What is that?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's eleven times Yeah, y has sixty six guys.

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Speaker 3: sixty six slots that they go out there and substitute through.

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Speaker 3: And you've got to know who's behind you, who's ahead

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Speaker 3: go through it. It's a tradition unlike any other. So

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Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mailbag show, So any question you have

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Speaker 2: Game number one on tap tomorrow against the Giants, kickoff

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Speaker 2: one pm. As we know because Sean McDermott said it

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Speaker 2: Because if you've only gotten two practices in off of

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Speaker 2: There's value in that.

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Speaker 3: There is value in that. And certainly, while they did

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Speaker 2: Expected to play, the Bills signed free agent kicker Cayden

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Speaker 2: The Bills released wide receiver Kelly Acari. Davis had a

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Speaker 2: there's a chance that they all warm up tomorrow leading

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Speaker 2: probably unlikely at this time. Still nothing new on the

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Speaker 2: James Cook contract extension. Front team had a walk through

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Speaker 2: a risk. Hey, appsent a contract extension does not want

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Speaker 2: Not much news out of Giants camp concerning who is

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Speaker 2: Head coach Brian Dable did say Dart will play Saturday

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Speaker 2: also revealed that he has watched a ton of Josh

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Speaker 2: you have to raise the standards of everybody. Obviously schematics.

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Speaker 2: I think that what shows up on Coach Dave's record

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Speaker 2: I think at times maybe quarterbacks will predetermine things and

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Speaker 2: So there's answers to everything that you can really think of.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's it's an old story. Quarterbacks come in.

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Speaker 3: It's what happens from the neck up. And certainly when

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Speaker 3: But the position is all about the neck up and

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Speaker 3: It's simple, It's not easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Giants assistant at coach Mike Kafkas said that Dart

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Speaker 3: Abdull Carter has been apparently killing and that Giant and

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Speaker 3: the Giants are in a little bit of a dog

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Speaker 3: You got Russ Wilson, you got Jameis Winston. So they're

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and we already have talked about it on

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Speaker 2: there will they die in schedule is brood.

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Speaker 3: It is absolutely br just for real quick. They go Washington, Dallas,

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Speaker 3: Kansas City, the Chargers. What and then that's month one.

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Speaker 3: Then they get New Orleans, Okay, then they go that's

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Speaker 3: the rest. They go Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners, dear lord.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so and there's no let up there either. After that.

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Speaker 3: Then it's the Bears, which maybe we'll see, and then

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Speaker 3: it's Packers, Lions, Patriots, Command, Vikings, than Raiders, Cowboy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're hello, like nobody did the Giant.

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Speaker 3: It's the worst schedule in football. Yeah, it's the hardest

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't think it's close. It's it is

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Speaker 2: the Bears. But those games are both road games, Like

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Speaker 2: the perceived easiest games on their schedule are all on

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Speaker 2: the road. So yeah, it's I do not envy Brian Dable.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Shane this year. I mean, you got

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Speaker 2: to play who you gotta play, But my goodness, you

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Speaker 2: got a lot of playoff teams sitting there, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: good luck to them.

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Speaker 2: full preseason slate began last night. The defending Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: It doesn't take much to remind everybody why the preseason

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tough break for that Ravens rookie. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: around the NFL, presented by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. As we said, it is obl

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Speaker 2: Fan Friday Mailbag. Any question you've got under the sun

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Speaker 2: Fire away at eight oh three, five point fifty one

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Speaker 3: It, yep. And it's it's gonna be fun. And it's

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun. I'm I'm with you, Brownie. I'm

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Speaker 3: excited to see the young defensive lineman, the free agents,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's pretty evident that the personnel department, the

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, good afternoon. It's a beautiful day out there, Brownie.

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Speaker 4: Steve was good talking to you yesterday, and Steve, you

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Speaker 4: corllaborated a lot of what I said about the smelling

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Speaker 4: this mean that any player that wants to use smelling

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Speaker 5: What makes you say that, Well, because they said the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm beking they're going to have to clear

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Speaker 3: No, you're overthinking it, Tom, That's not that's not the case.

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Speaker 3: What they're saying is that the team will not give

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Speaker 2: So they have to provide it themselves.

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Speaker 3: The players have to provide it themselves. And I'll say

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Speaker 3: that wasn't collective. But the club, the club cannot provide it.

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Speaker 3: So it's like the club can't cover up their concussion

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Speaker 2: In the grand scheme of things. It's a legality cover

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Speaker 2: So if players still want to make use of those,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. This to me, this is like the legal department

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Exactly, did you bring him? Whose turn is it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ain't no. I hate to say it like this,

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Speaker 2: Right, Let's go to Ray in North town of Wanda.

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Speaker 2: What's up Ray?

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Speaker 6: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. I was just

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Speaker 6: I mean, you think when you think of yourself as

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Speaker 3: Usually it's coaches and executives in the first class seat.

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Speaker 3: But it's a regular plane, no question. And one of

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Speaker 3: So that's basically the way it works. But it isn't

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Speaker 3: It's not a pack jam packed plane.

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Speaker 2: Right, because you don't have a three hundred person travel party.

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Speaker 2: It's more like one fifty to one sixty.

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Speaker 2: do you got for is Jill?

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Speaker 8: I get a quick que question about during the preseason

434
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Speaker 8: when they can't go after Josh. Did you ever see

435
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Speaker 8: the police dogs how they train them. They have someone

436
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Speaker 8: in a full body suit. Couldn't they get somebody that

437
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 8: you know, Josh throws. They step aside so that the

438
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 8: defense doesn't have to stop and start, stop and start.

439
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Speaker 2: They want a real tackling Jill wants a real tackling

440
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Speaker 2: dummy out there. That's what Jill wants, a tackling dummy quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah good, Hey, I mean that sport specializes as much

442
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Speaker 2: as you'll ever see. There is more equipment. Now here's

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Speaker 2: an answer for you, Jill. They don't have this at

444
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Speaker 2: the quarterback position, but there are mobile tackling dummies now

445
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Speaker 2: and some teams have them, and you know, they'll run

446
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Speaker 2: pretty fast like those things. Motor and they'll have you know,

447
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 2: players tackling them on the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they yeah, what's you can It can't happen. They've

449
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: got dummies with that are on wheels and they're like

450
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: remote control things, and you can use them like that.

451
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Speaker 2: The guy you're seeing them used at the quarterback position.

452
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Speaker 2: But they can usually do that, and you know what,

453
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Speaker 2: they'll crow a ball to an arm or something.

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Speaker 3: What they can do too, is for big money programs,

455
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Speaker 3: they'll put the dummies on the defensive side and when

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Speaker 3: the ball is snapped, those dummies will drop back into

457
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Speaker 3: zones and the quarterback can read them like defenders. So

458
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: they can use them like that, and then the guys

459
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Speaker 3: run their routes and the quarterback can read the dummies

460
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Speaker 3: like you. And you don't need fifty guys to practice.

461
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: You need like your offensive you know, he's seven guys

462
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Speaker 3: to run routes. And then you can have the dummies

463
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Speaker 3: fall into different coverage schemes. But you know, it's too hot.

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Speaker 3: I see what you're saying. No, you can't because there's

465
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Speaker 3: no where's the dummy going to stand before the ball.

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Speaker 2: Snapped, right because the quarterback's there.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't.

468
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Speaker 2: It's hard to replicate.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah.

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Speaker 2: So now if you want to run, if a defensive

471
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Speaker 2: line coach wants to run a pass rush drill and

472
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Speaker 2: instead of using a poor assistant coach run for effect there,

473
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Speaker 2: and you want an actual tackle drill, yeah, you could

474
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Speaker 2: get a motorized guy and he's got a he's got

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Speaker 2: an r a dummy arm with all and they can

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Speaker 2: have him drop back like a quarterback, you know, throw

477
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Speaker 2: that guy in reverse. That's conceivable. But that's strictly for

478
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: a defensive line drill and an eleven on eleven setting.

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Speaker 2: It's not real.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this too, Jill, as much as our

481
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Speaker 3: listeners and Brownie and Ie, we sit here and talk

482
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Speaker 3: about this in different scenarios and different techniques we could

483
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Speaker 3: think of to make this work, and you know, give

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Speaker 3: the guys a better look. And coaches do nothing but

485
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Speaker 3: think about it. And if they don't, if they are

486
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Speaker 3: not doing it, it's because A it doesn't work or

487
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Speaker 3: or B it's impossible. It's it won't they can't get

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00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 3: it done. So they and that's what a coach's job is.

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Speaker 3: They come up with their own set of drills and

490
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Speaker 3: specialty protocols and stuff that the guys. They want the

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Speaker 3: guys to do individual drills, you know, tackling drills, running drills,

492
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: route running drills, tack you know, all the coverage drills,

493
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: and they come up with them to get them the

494
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Speaker 3: guys to do exactly what they're going to do in

495
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Speaker 3: a game. So if you can come up with an

496
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Speaker 3: idea that you think will work, there's probably been five

497
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Speaker 3: thousand coaches who've thought of that exact same thing if

498
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Speaker 3: they could get it done, and if they're not using

499
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Speaker 3: it's because it did not work.

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Speaker 2: So thanks for that call, Jill. We got to take

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Speaker 2: a break here, but when we come back, more of

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Speaker 2: your phone calls. We're wide open for the next half hour.

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Speaker 9: Here.

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Speaker 2: Paul in Atlanta gonna lead us off. When we get back.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the others holding at eight h three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty when we return here. On an OBL

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Speaker 2: Friday fan mailbag on One Bill's Live, presented by co

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Speaker 2: Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker on

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Speaker 2: an OBL Friday fan mail Bag and got to get

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Speaker 2: right back to the phone. He's got a lot of

512
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Speaker 2: people holding, so we'll rifle through these as best we can,

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Speaker 2: and we lead off as promised with Paul in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Paul?

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Speaker 7: Hey, I got a quick comment before my question. Guys.

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Speaker 7: Happy beer Friday, by the way, thank you. I'm with

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00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 7: the Bills backers of Atlanta and we are absolutely going

518
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 7: to rock this town when the Bills come down here

519
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 7: to play the Falcons. We are ready, willing, enabled. The

520
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 7: team is going to know we are there right. My

521
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 7: question to you both guys, when we hired Brandon Bean,

522
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 7: we were in cap jail. I understand that. I think

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00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 7: he's doing a great job. I think the whole staff

524
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 7: is doing a great job. But it seems like we've

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00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 7: got one all pro, certified all pro obviously Josh Allen.

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00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 7: No other are all pros on the team, first team,

527
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 7: you know, offensive defense, Yet we're always battling cap jails.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 7: I know we swung and missed on Von Miller. We

530
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Speaker 7: went for the went for the whole thing. I'm all

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Speaker 7: for that. I you know, you got up, you got

532
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Speaker 7: to take risks. But it just seems, guys, that we've

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Speaker 7: got one certified all pro, we're always up against the camp.

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Speaker 7: I'd like I'd like to know what your comments are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair question, Paul uh and thanks for

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Speaker 2: calling and we look forward to seeing you in week

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00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: six down there in atl So, thanks for the phone call. Look,

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Speaker 2: I think I think they've tried to shift their approach

539
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: here in the last couple of years. They no longer

540
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: have uh A top of the market wide receiver. After

541
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Speaker 2: trading Stefan Diggs, they took a thirty one million dollar

542
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: cap hit to move him off the roster, So that

543
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: was one Von Miller. They restructured a couple of times,

544
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 2: and that's now off the roster. And I think they

545
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: signed Joey Bosa, who by the way, is four years

546
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Speaker 2: younger than when they signed Von Miller, to a much

547
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: more team friendly deal with a void year in there

548
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: but one year twelve twelve million in change. So I

549
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: think they've made efforts to be more fiscally responsible with

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00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: the deals they've handed out. And talk to anybody that

551
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: covers the NFL the Khalil Shakir deal. People can't believe

552
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: they signed that guy for fifteen million a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really look at you know, being cap jay,

554
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: I get it. They only have what I look at

555
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: is the dead cap they've only got they've got twenty

556
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: nine million dollars in dead caps, so it sounds like

557
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: a lot, but it's like mid range in the league.

558
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: As long as you don't you're not paying guys, you know,

559
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars that aren't even on the team

560
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: at least the guys you've got on the team, or

561
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: you're paying them what you want to pay them, and

562
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: that's I think that's as important as anything. Certainly, the

563
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: cash out and the cap number and how far they

564
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: are under the cap is one thing, and how can

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00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: they get it done? Can they sign a guy? I

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Speaker 3: think most teams have or most people have looked at

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Speaker 3: the guys they've signed in Rousseau, Ed Oliver, Khalil Shakir, Epanessa, Milano.

568
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: All of these guys have have signed early in their

569
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Speaker 3: ability to be signed, and they've extended and they're none

570
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: of them are crushing, you know. So I think the

571
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: dead cap is what I look at, and I think

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00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: the bills at twenty nine million are actually doing pretty good.

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00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's like twenty percent of their cap

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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 2: So it's I think the reason fans are wondering, hey,

576
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: what's the deal is because they're they're over right now

577
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: in a manner speaking, and then when they get to

578
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Speaker 2: roster cutdown time August twenty six, they'll be down to

579
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Speaker 2: fifty three where only your top fifty one are sorry,

580
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: where everybody counts, including your practice squad and everything, and

581
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Speaker 2: they will be over. So there will be some decisions

582
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: that have to be made there and maybe even some

583
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: contracts adjusted, and who knows, they may even find a

584
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Speaker 2: trade partner where they can alleviate some of that cap

585
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: stress as well. So there will be some interesting decisions

586
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Speaker 2: that have to be made when they get to roster

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Speaker 2: cutdown day on August twenty six, because they are projected

588
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Speaker 2: to be over when they get to that point in time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to be you can't be over.

590
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's gonna be some tough decision. There always is.

591
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: But I think and I realize, like I said, yeah,

592
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: go ahead, you got to maximize the money you're spending

593
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: and get the most out of.

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Speaker 2: It, right, And I realize there's only one all Pro

595
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: on the roster. Well, the guy's commanding a lot lot

596
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: of salary because it's a quarter.

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Speaker 3: There's actually three Milano's in all Pro has been, and

598
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: so has Tredevious White.

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00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: You got guys who have done it in the past.

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00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: Dion Dawkins has been a perennial Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Right, So you've got some guys out there that are

602
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: that are high quality and have done it in the past. Certainly,

603
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 3: now Toredavious White's not making all pro corner money, Uhlan

604
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Speaker 3: and Milana would be underpaid if he played a full season,

605
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: So it goes both ways. But yeah, you're right, it's

606
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: a difficult needle to thread getting a maximum roster and

607
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: all these guys on there and and fitting them. I

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00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: don't know that the cap has not been a huge

609
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: issue for this team. They've signed who they wanted to sign,

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Speaker 3: and they've been able to go out and get guys

611
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: like Bosa and Leonard Floyd two years ago, and they've

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Speaker 3: gotten some guys in my even with limited cap space,

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Speaker 3: so worked around it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Paul's point is you look at a

615
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Speaker 2: team like San Francisco and you know they've got all

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Speaker 2: pros up and down their roster. If you look at

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Speaker 2: their roster now, they did have to vanquish themselves of

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Speaker 2: some all pros and thin their ranks so to speak.

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Speaker 2: You know, dra Greenlaw isn't on that team anymore. The

620
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: safety Lulfanga is not on that roster anymore.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at the New Orleans Saints. I mean,

622
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: so I think this. I have not heard that the

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Speaker 3: Bills have been like they haven't been able to go,

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00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: they haven't had to go shopping and not be able

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Speaker 3: to buy guys that they wanted. They have been able

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Speaker 3: to fit guys that they have wanted under their cap.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the key thing. I don't think

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Speaker 3: the cap has constrained them. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what the conversations are like. Certainly they're spending to

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Speaker 3: the CAP.

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Speaker 2: So I mean they're still trying to get an extension

632
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: done with James Cook.

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Speaker 3: Right, even that's on the table, I would think. So, yeah,

634
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Speaker 3: I get it. It's uncomfortable for some fans thinking, man,

635
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna be able to you

636
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: know what happens.

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Speaker 2: Or why don't we have it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's more for seam all pros. I

639
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: do nonsense in any shape or way, shape or form

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Speaker 3: that the Bills are wringing their hands over the CAP.

641
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they know they have to be.

642
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: They gotta be compliant.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: Let's they're gonna be right there again. I mean, they're

645
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: gonna be right at the in the tournament, they're gonna

646
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: be right there again in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So and as far as that's the key, and as

648
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Speaker 2: far as cash goes, the Pagoulas spent as much as anybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 2: I think just realize and rest easy in the fact

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Speaker 2: that this is a top flight roster. It may not

652
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Speaker 2: be dotted with as many first team All pros, as

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Speaker 2: Paul pointed out, but it's a very strong roster and

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Speaker 2: a roster that Sean McDermott gets the most out of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about what everybody was saying about this

656
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Speaker 2: team at this time last year and where they ended up.

657
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Speaker 2: They were in the final four. So you may not

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Speaker 2: have the household names, but they make it work here

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Speaker 2: and I think that's the thing to hang your hat on.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to George and cheek to Wogan next. What's up, George?

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Speaker 7: How are we doing? Fellows?

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Speaker 3: Good? Good?

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Speaker 10: Actually, going off the cap situation, I have a two questions. Now,

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Speaker 10: what happens if they go over the cap is you

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Speaker 10: mayn't stay below?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you have to be cap compliant. Once they

667
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Speaker 2: get to August twenty sixth, then all the positions count.

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Speaker 10: All right, because I know in baseball they have a cap,

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Speaker 10: but if you go over it, you have to pay

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Speaker 10: a fine or a penalty or whatever.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a hard cat.

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Speaker 3: It's a hard cap. And it would also be it'd

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Speaker 3: be draft picks and all of that kind of Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you'd be penalized.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, okay. And then my second question is Joeann Dreesen. Yes,

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Speaker 10: he's making his hometown people very proud, as you guys know.

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Speaker 10: But I mean, what's his contract? I know, is he

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Speaker 10: get I know there's like the free agents at side,

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Speaker 10: undrafted free agents? Is at like one of those? And

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Speaker 10: how long is it and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 10: I had no idea where that is.

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Speaker 3: Let me look, I've got it.

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Speaker 2: That's a fair question.

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Speaker 3: Joe Ndreesen's contract. He's making just shy of a million

685
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Speaker 3: bucks this year, which is not that much. He's signed

686
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Speaker 3: through twenty twenty six, right, he's got one more year

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Speaker 3: left on the deal he signed last year. And his

688
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Speaker 3: his his base this year's nine sixties and da da

689
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Speaker 3: da da da. His cap pits nine sixty.

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Speaker 2: Now, if for some reason he gets on the field

691
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Speaker 2: even more than anticipated, they have the player performance enhancements

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Speaker 2: to a contract. You know, we've seen this before. If

693
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Speaker 2: there's some late round pick and suddenly he's in the

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Speaker 2: starting lineup. I remember Max Crosby benefited from this. He

695
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Speaker 2: was like a fourth or fifth round draft choice. He

696
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Speaker 2: starts and he gets like ten sacks as a rookie

697
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Speaker 2: and started like seventeen games for the Raiders. Well, his

698
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Speaker 2: performance based pay, which you know was based on his production, it.

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Speaker 3: Comes out and he.

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Speaker 2: Got it like an extra million dollars like in May

701
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Speaker 2: or something that comes out the following spring. But you

702
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Speaker 2: get a check for performance base pay if you play

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Speaker 2: more and perform better, then your contract indicates as a.

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Speaker 3: Rookie, that's right, And it's a it's on a scale,

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Speaker 3: it's all set in stone.

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Speaker 2: That's for year one, year two, yeah, three.

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Speaker 3: You know, So if Andresen were two all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden be forced into duty and started all these games he.

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Speaker 2: Finishes with, right, he would performance base get a fat check.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to Fred in Rochester next. What's up Fred?

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Speaker 7: Hi, guys, I want to talk about Maxwell Harriston a

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Speaker 7: little bit.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 7: Can you give me an update on his injury that

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Speaker 7: he got in the camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was a sprained l c L, which

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Speaker 2: is the lateral collateral ligament that goes along the outside

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Speaker 2: of the knee. Uh, it was sprained, not torn. From

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Speaker 2: what we've been told, and we've basically been given indication

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Speaker 2: that you know, he's going to probably be out a

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Speaker 2: few weeks. So that might go the duration of the preseason.

723
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Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see how quickly he can

724
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Speaker 2: return to action, but it looks as though there is

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Speaker 2: a chance he'll be ready for the start of the

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Speaker 2: regular season.

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Speaker 3: As with everything, it's it's a lot of it depends

728
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Speaker 3: on Max and how that injury is and how it compares.

729
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Speaker 3: But you're looking at anything from three weeks to like

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Speaker 3: seven weeks.

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Speaker 2: I mean hard and fast timetable that injury.

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Speaker 3: That's right. There's no hard, fast timetable in it because

733
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Speaker 3: it's an individual and the Bills don't like doing it anyway.

734
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Speaker 3: But history will tell you, you know, seven weeks is a possibility,

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Speaker 3: in eight weeks whatever.

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Speaker 2: We don't know this of the spring, but it's not going.

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Speaker 3: To be two weeks. You know, it's going to take

738
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Speaker 3: a minute. Uh, it won't be. It won't no surgery

739
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Speaker 3: and all of that, and it'll be how his rehab goes,

740
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Speaker 3: how it heals up, how fast a healer Max I mean, yeah,

741
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Speaker 3: Max is all of that. So but that's given a

742
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Speaker 3: thousand human beings, they're all going to heal up between

743
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Speaker 3: three and eight. Yeah, so take your pick.

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Speaker 2: And like we said, we don't know the grade of

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Speaker 2: the sprays at a grade one, grade two or grade

746
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Speaker 2: three sprain, we don't know. We don't have that information.

747
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Speaker 2: The only hard and fast information we have from the

748
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Speaker 2: Bills is that he's he's it's a week to week injury,

749
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Speaker 2: so could be three weeks, could be four weeks. You know,

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Speaker 2: it all depends on how he makes his way through

751
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Speaker 2: his rehabilitation and how he's performing as he recovers. And

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Speaker 2: that's set injury.

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Speaker 3: And also with young guys, they start to feel good,

754
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Speaker 3: they do one thing too much because they feel good,

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Speaker 3: and then they're set back two weeks.

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Speaker 2: There is something to be said. Also, young players tend

757
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: to bounce back quicker, they feel faster, less miles on

758
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Speaker 2: the tire, so to speak. So hopefully that's the case

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Speaker 2: for him. We got to take a break here, but

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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls when we come back, So

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Speaker 2: if you're holding at eight oh three oh five point fifty,

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Speaker 2: we will get to you in the next segment. Mike

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Speaker 2: and Williamsport, Maureene and Lancaster will lead us off when

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Speaker 2: a couple of those. Gonna hit ninety today. Hello, time

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Speaker 2: for a sweet treat.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: To get back to the phones. On this obl Fan

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Speaker 2: Friday Mailbag eight O three to five fifty one eighty

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty the number to jump

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Speaker 2: on board with us. As promised, we lead off here

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Speaker 2: with Mike down in Williams Pord.

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Speaker 12: What do you have first, Mike, Hey, Steven, Chris, thank

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Speaker 12: you for taking my call. First thing is I want

785
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Speaker 12: to say, me and my girlfriend just bought a house

786
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Speaker 12: two blocks away from the Bills backers bar, so I

787
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Speaker 12: can just walk up and walk back.

788
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: Well played my hike on down there.

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Speaker 2: That is well played.

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Speaker 12: And the one thing I'm looking forward most to tomorrow

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Speaker 12: is seeing how well the special teams does with the

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Speaker 12: new special teams. And as you were saying, Chris, the

793
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Speaker 12: defensive line, I'd like to see how well that young

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Speaker 12: defensive line plays out.

795
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. Usually in preseason games, special teams

796
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: don't play too much for whatever reason.

797
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Speaker 2: But some new stuff here.

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Speaker 3: But there's some new stuff. The kickoff is going to be.

799
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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a real change this year

800
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 3: that we'll notice. I think you're gonna get a ton

801
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: of kickoff returns. And here's why. Back in the day,

802
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 3: it was like, listen, there's always the chance you're gonna

803
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: give up a touchdown return, so you weigh that eventuality,

804
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Speaker 3: which is catastrophic against you, right with your faith in

805
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: your kickoff return team. Now, last year, if the kickoff

806
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: touchback was it the twenty five or the thirty. You

807
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Speaker 3: weigh the giving them to them at the thirty with

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Speaker 3: the chance that you may give something up or if

809
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Speaker 3: you allow a return, or how likely is it your

810
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Speaker 3: return team is gonna give you a significant advantage, like

811
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Speaker 3: tackle them on the twenty oh your coverage unit, your

812
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: coverage unit, if your kickoff team is gonna give you,

813
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Speaker 3: on average the twenty one yard line or the eighteen

814
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: yard line, it's like, I don't know, we might just

815
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: kick it off, let them return it because we got

816
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 3: a pretty good coverage unit. You weigh all that against

817
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: the fact that you may give up a big one.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to get a good returner.

819
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Speaker 3: Now somebody, if you're gonna kick it into the end

820
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: zone and they're getting it at the thirty five, even

821
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 3: a mediocre coverage team can cover it better than that.

822
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Speaker 3: Give it to you at the twenty five, Well, it's

823
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: like you're giving them a first down. Every time you

824
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Speaker 3: hit a touchback, you're giving your opponent a first down.

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Speaker 3: From the twenty five to the thirty five.

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Speaker 2: And think about this too, Steve. If you're gonna put

827
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Speaker 2: it in the end zone and give it to the

828
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Speaker 2: opposing offense at the thirty five, and you're playing a

829
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Speaker 2: team like the Bengals, they need twenty five yards and

830
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Speaker 2: they can bring their kicker on and kick a field goal,

831
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Speaker 2: that twenty five yards is all you need to put

832
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: points on the board, not a touchdown. But like, think

833
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Speaker 2: about that, Like, I think teams are gonna be thinking

834
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Speaker 2: long and hard about that.

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Speaker 3: Now you think it's a given me more returns this day,

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Speaker 3: for instance, you'd rather.

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Speaker 2: Put it in play than give it to them at

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Speaker 2: the thirty five.

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Speaker 3: Audi, that's right, You'd rather put it in play and

840
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Speaker 3: give your coverage team a chance to get maybe not

841
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: only give get it down on the twenty, maybe on

842
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: the inside the twenty. But what if they punch it out, right,

843
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: So you're not going to get a punch out if

844
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: it's a touchback, right, you're not going to get them

845
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: to get a fumble on the touchback. So all of

846
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: that stuff is in the mix on over the course

847
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: of a long season, you know you can get some

848
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: you can gain some advantage. And Brownie's right. If you're

849
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: playing Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and t Higgins in

850
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: that crowd. You want to you don't want to give

851
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: him an extra fifteen yards. Back them up, Back them up, man,

852
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: or say listen, our defense is pretty We're playing whatever

853
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: ticket we're paying, playing the Colts. Their quarterback is hurt,

854
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: we're playing. We're playing Billy bag of donuts, a quarterback

855
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: for that team. Well, their special teams are better than

856
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: their offense. Let's kick it in the end zone. Let

857
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: their offense at the thirty change. Game plans change week

858
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: to week, so it's and our defense is really really good.

859
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: They're not going to give up twenty five yards of

860
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 3: this crew, so well, we're not going to take the chance.

861
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: We'll kick them into the end zone. Let our defense

862
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: take the field, and we'll let them punt it from

863
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 3: their thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: There'll be a lot of those decisions this year. It'll

865
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Speaker 2: be interesting to see how they play out. Let's go

866
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: to Maureen in Lancaster here before the break, what do

867
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: you offer us, Maureen?

868
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 13: I want to thank you guys. You've saved me this summer. Love.

869
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 13: I love this through two hours every day. It's my

870
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 13: highlight of the day.

871
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: It's highlight of my day too.

872
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: The checks and the mail.

873
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 13: Well, I love that Billy Bega Donuts.

874
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 8: That was great.

875
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 13: I want to know. I you know, ever since we

876
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 13: signed the two players that came over that and as

877
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 13: soon as they came over, we knew what their punishment

878
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 13: was as far as the performance enhancing drugs whatever it was.

879
00:46:54,120 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 13: And six games seemed to me very little wrong. And

880
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 13: I wondered, first if there's ever a chance that they

881
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 13: can appeal that. And then the second part of my

882
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 13: question is, you know, there are a couple of teams

883
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 13: now that have players, one being Kansas City. Don't mean

884
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 13: to pick on Kansas City, but they have two players

885
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 13: Rashie Rice and Worthy who both had off season, right.

886
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 13: And then but yeah, and when does when does the

887
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 13: NFL's decision come out as far as how they're going

888
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 13: to treat this. I know, I know the local enforcement

889
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 13: people they dropped the charge or not, Yeah, they dropped

890
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 13: the charges or what you know, they they solved it

891
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 13: off off the off the legal way, right. But and

892
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 13: then the the other is Diggs. There was such a

893
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 13: big deal about Digs on the boat with the pink

894
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 13: whatever it was.

895
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 8: And so those are issues.

896
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 4: Yes, there issues, So.

897
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: Let me step in here, Marine, because there are two

898
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: different things that work here, okay, and I know Steve

899
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: will chime in on this also. So the off the

900
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: field stuff that the Chiefs players we're dealing with dealt

901
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 2: with the legal system, and typically what the NFL does

902
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 2: is they will conduct their own investigation, but they will

903
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: let the legal system play the case out and they

904
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: will usually not meet out punishment until the legal system

905
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: has reached a conclusion on the case, guilty, not guilty, sentencing,

906
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: et cetera. For the Bills players, those are infractions that

907
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: deal with the integrity of the game with performance enhancing drugs,

908
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: and the league takes that very seriously and there is

909
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: clear and defined punishment for those infractions, and as soon

910
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: as they fail a test, the league can meet out punishment.

911
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 2: So it takes it happens very quickly. With the case

912
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: of Rashid Rice and the case of Xavier Worthy, they

913
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 2: have to let the legal system play out the case

914
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: and then they can hand out punishment based on their

915
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: own findings and investigation. That's why it takes longer for

916
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: those anything.

917
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 3: To add to that, Steve, No, that's exactly that's it exactly.

918
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 3: The league takes very seriously the integrity of the game.

919
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: They don't got guys cheating and enhanced and performance enhancing

920
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: drugs or integrity the game, and they take that very seriously,

921
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: and they tend to punishment meet out punishment at a

922
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: pretty free handed They don't hold back on that. The

923
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: legal systems another matter outside the lines of the game.

924
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: They watch what the cops do, see how that all

925
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: plays out in the courts and all that, and then

926
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: they and then they punish accordingly.

927
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but our number

928
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: two is gonna be spent taking a look at the Giants,

929
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: and to help us do that, we're going to be

930
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: pulling in ESPN Giants reporter Jordan Raanan. He's going to

931
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: help get us up to speed on what to expect

932
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: from that crew tomorrow in preseason game number one. Here

933
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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live.

934
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Speaker 1: Stay with us, This One Bill's Live, presented by Calida

935
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Speaker 1: helth All.

936
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Speaker 2: Right, rolling into hour number two here on a Friday,

937
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Jasper and One Bills Live as we

938
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Speaker 2: get you set for Bill's Giants preseason game number one,

939
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: and here to help us with the four to one

940
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Speaker 2: one on the Giants, as ESPN Giants reporter Jordan Renan

941
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: joining us and Jordan, first of all, thanks for the time,

942
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: safe travels up here. And uh, I guess we got

943
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: to start, you know, at the quarterback position, because you know,

944
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: these Giants have four guys in camp at the at

945
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: the position only one real holdover in Tommy Cutlets. So uh,

946
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: Brian Dable didn't give us a whole lot on who's

947
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 2: going to be playing, other than to say the rookie

948
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: is Jackson Dart. What are your thoughts on quarterback rotation

949
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: if there is any.

950
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 14: Yeah, you get used to that when you talk to

951
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 14: Brian Dable regularly about not being told much.

952
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 9: But that's sort of a demo with these kind of things.

953
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 14: I think it's pretty clear though, from watching what they've

954
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 14: done the last couple of days, you're not gonna see

955
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 14: most of their starters. Look, they're left tackle. Andrew Thomas

956
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 14: is on puff right. He's their best offensive lineman. My

957
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 14: league neighbors has been a little banged up. He didn't

958
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 14: practice yesterday, so you know we're not We're not gonna

959
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 14: see Russell Wilson. I'm I feel pretty good about that,

960
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 14: and most of their major starter, Dexter Lawrence on the

961
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 14: defensive side, he's been extremely limited throughout training camp. Brian

962
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 14: Burns didn't practice yesterday. He's nursing a minor injury. Darius Slee,

963
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 14: and so without all those guys, I don't think it's

964
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 14: worth for the Giants to be playing. And they also

965
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 14: have joint practices coming up this week against the Jets.

966
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 14: I don't think it's gonna be worth them and risk

967
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 14: them Dable playing much of his starters, So what you're

968
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 14: gonna get is a lot of the backups, maybe starting

969
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 14: with Jamis Winston or Jackson Dart. They're sort of interchangeable

970
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 14: playing the first half or so maybe into the into

971
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 14: the second half, splitting between those two guys, and then

972
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 14: you know Tommy Devitoup. It's finishing out getting probably more

973
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 14: than maybe anybody else.

974
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: Okay, what's the story. What's the main story coming out

975
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 3: of Giants camp? I mean that certainly the quarterback competition

976
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: starts with it, you know, starts and ends every conversation.

977
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: What are some other players that are they need to

978
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: be talked about or they have an injury problems? The

979
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: Bills have a long list.

980
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 14: Uh, they're just very Conservatives, So I don't think. I

981
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 14: don't look at the Giants if they have anything serious,

982
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 14: like Dexter Lawrence. They've just been bringing along slow all

983
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 14: summer Andrew Thomas. That was always the plan coming off

984
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 14: Liz Frank surgery. So I think it's kind of their plan.

985
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 9: I don't they're not.

986
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 14: They haven't had really, you know, knock On Wood had

987
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 14: many injuries in camp, at least anything serious so far. So,

988
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 14: but you'll see most of their second team out there

989
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 14: and healthy.

990
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 9: And of course I mean that that quarterback.

991
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 14: Story is always the number one thing, especially when you

992
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 14: don't have a Josh Allen sitting around. Russell Wilson's the guy.

993
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 14: But the story of this game, in this preseason is

994
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 14: what is Jackson Dart?

995
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 9: Right?

996
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 14: Because it's possible we don't see Jackson Dart much of

997
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 14: this season, maybe at all. Who knows it goes really

998
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 14: well for them, So this is sort of his time

999
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 14: to shine. This as the fan base and the Giants

1000
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 14: opportunity to see him in live game environment. I think

1001
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 14: that's kind of what everyone's excited about here, is to

1002
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 14: see what Jackson Dart looks like in a Giant's uniform.

1003
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 9: And speaking to him yesterday.

1004
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 14: You know, he's got that boxy that aura to him,

1005
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 14: kind of like Josh Allen, Like he's not as big

1006
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 14: and strong, but he kind of plays similar to him,

1007
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 14: and that he wants to put his head down and

1008
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 14: run through you, which isn't always great for their quarterback,

1009
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 14: but that's the kind of the attitude he brings. And

1010
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 14: you heard that come to this game. He's like, I'm

1011
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 14: not scared to make mistakes. I'm not scared. I'm just

1012
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 14: gonna play my game and you know, try to make

1013
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 14: tough throws if I have to, and so forth and

1014
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 14: do what he does. And kind of what we've seen

1015
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 14: in training camp is a little bit of up and

1016
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 14: down there. But yeah, but if I'll do Carter plays also, Man,

1017
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 14: he's been impressive this summer.

1018
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 9: I'm not sure you're gonna get it a taste of that,

1019
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 9: but it's possible.

1020
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 14: We see a little bit about Bill Carter's to get

1021
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 14: him in a game and he.

1022
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 9: Looks like a really really you.

1023
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 14: Obviously it with von Miller when he was there as much,

1024
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 14: but that then, that's the great players have around the edge,

1025
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 14: Like God, Dull Carter has that.

1026
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, not surprising. I know we're probably not gonna see

1027
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: my league neighbors tomorrow, Jordan. But you know, we hear

1028
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: these reports about him dealing with a toe thing that

1029
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: he thinks will be manageable throughout the course of the season.

1030
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: How severe is it and do you think it will

1031
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: inhibit him to some degree or to varying degrees as

1032
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: he makes his way through the season.

1033
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 14: If it stays the way it is has been so

1034
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 14: far this summer. I think the answer is no, because

1035
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 14: he's looked pretty awesome.

1036
00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 9: Nobody can guard him.

1037
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 14: I was hoping to see next week came against Sauz

1038
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 14: Gardner and you know, to see, okay, is he just

1039
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 14: unguardable by any corner cornerback er?

1040
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 9: You know?

1041
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 14: Is it because the Giants don't have necessarily have a

1042
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 14: shutdown lockdown number one like pauls Ladiba's proven to be

1043
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 14: a good player in the sleep, but he's not quite

1044
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 14: that level.

1045
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 9: But yeah, I think.

1046
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 14: With myleak, Neighbors just might be something that you deal

1047
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 14: with throughout the season. He seems like just from what

1048
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 14: I heard about him and Ali Shoot, even in parts

1049
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 14: of his rookie year, he's the kind of guy who

1050
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 14: might be on the.

1051
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 9: Injury report every single week.

1052
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 14: He's gonna be there and play on Sunday and you're

1053
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 14: not really gonna notice it throughout the weeknd one's gonna panic.

1054
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 14: They're gonna have to manage it, and you might not see.

1055
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 14: There'll just be fridays where my leak neighbors wasn't on

1056
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 14: the field last year at the end of last year

1057
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 14: and you're like, what, like, is it cold?

1058
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 9: Is he hurt?

1059
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 7: Like?

1060
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 14: And they're being like, you know, it's his hamstring, it's

1061
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 14: a grilling, it's this, it's that shoulder. And then all

1062
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 14: of a sudden he goes out there and he plays

1063
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 14: really well on Sunday. So I think this just might

1064
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 14: be something they managed throughout the season, unless it gets worse,

1065
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 14: which you can't predict that, right, I don't know. I

1066
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 14: don't know how you can sit here and predict that.

1067
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 14: Then he'lly just find dude, it's a really really high

1068
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 14: end player.

1069
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Speaker 9: All right.

1070
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 3: Well, you know we're all about the Buffalo Bills over here,

1071
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: So give us an idea, give us a general generalization.

1072
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: I know there's a spectrum what a Giants fan looking

1073
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 3: for from their team this year.

1074
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, the Giants have a very different expectations than the Bills.

1075
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 14: The build it's almost like got bol well lassoom over there,

1076
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 14: uh here.

1077
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 9: They're just looking to show improvement.

1078
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 14: But they're coming off three and fourteen the Giants, right,

1079
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 14: and they've really been going in the wrong direction with

1080
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 14: the pressures on Dable and even general manager Joe Shane.

1081
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Speaker 9: They went six and eleven and three and fourteen in

1082
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Speaker 9: the last two seasons.

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00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 14: John Maroly says he needs to see progress when he

1084
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 14: walks up the field in the final game of the season.

1085
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 9: Now, it's not that easy to make progress.

1086
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 14: I mean, that shouldn't be that hard to make progress

1087
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 14: when you went three and fourteen last year. But I

1088
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 14: think any where near, like you know, seven eight nine

1089
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 14: wins is considered a huge success for this team this season.

1090
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 14: So they just want to see them get better. The

1091
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 14: preception is the defense is going to be really good,

1092
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 14: the offense still sort of a work in progress. Let's

1093
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 14: see what we have in Jackson Dart and then they

1094
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 14: you know, from from the outside, they look at Buffalo like,

1095
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 14: that's what we wanted to Joe Shane and Brian Able

1096
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 14: to build, right. I think that that's kind of what

1097
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 14: Giant fans a looking at hate. That's what they were

1098
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 14: supposed to build, but they never got their Josh Allen.

1099
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 14: They're hoping that, you know, Jackson Dart is at least

1100
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 14: a portion of Josh Allen.

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00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: You know, who should we be looking at tomorrow. Who

1102
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: has been a pleasant surprise in Giants camp that maybe

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: is turning some heads that will get playing time tomorrow.

1104
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: Anybody from you know, I mean, you mentioned Abdul Carter,

1105
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: but I'm wondering if there's a couple of surprise players

1106
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: in camp that have really turned some heads that you know,

1107
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: maybe Bill's fan should keep an eye on.

1108
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean Amir Smith. Marsett's a wide receiver. He's

1109
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 14: been a returner in this league. He's trying to show

1110
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 14: that he could be a receiver too, and he believes it,

1111
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 14: and he's gonna be getting a lot of work with

1112
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 14: that second team. You'll probably see a lot of Gunner

1113
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 14: Olshewsky too. I don't know how much you know about Gunner.

1114
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 14: He's you know, he's been a returner and that's been

1115
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 14: around the league a little bit, and he was just

1116
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 14: signed recently, so he's been working with that second and

1117
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 14: third team and making a lot of plays. So I

1118
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 14: think I think you're going to see a lot from

1119
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 14: him in this game and potentially doing I wouldn't be

1120
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 14: surprised if you told me he's their leading receiver in

1121
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 14: this game. And then in that secondary, that's something the

1122
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,959
Speaker 14: Giants are still, you know, trying to develop depth there.

1123
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 9: There's a lot of guys sort of in that mix.

1124
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 14: Nick Nick Jones is the guy who kind of has

1125
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 14: impressed this summer, kind of out of nowhere. You're talking

1126
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 14: about a slot type cornerback, so I think it'll be

1127
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 14: interesting to see him in a game. And then some

1128
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 14: of their younger, you know, front seven guys. Darius Alexander's

1129
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 14: the third round pick who kind of got off to

1130
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 14: a slow start this summer. He was banged up in

1131
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 14: the spring. He's the guy I think the Giants would

1132
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 14: love to see something at it because that's their pass

1133
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 14: rush is only as good as their run defense is

1134
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 14: gonna let them be right, and also they're and score

1135
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 14: some points.

1136
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 9: Let him get the lead.

1137
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 14: They kind of need Darius Alexander to play, so he's

1138
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 14: a guy I would look out for on the interior

1139
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 14: of the defensive line.

1140
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: What's been the word coming out on how the quarterbacks

1141
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: have played. I know you said that Russ Wilson is

1142
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 3: the guy. I guess they're probably and certainly are running

1143
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 3: Brian Day balls offense. What's it look like when Russ

1144
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 3: Wilson takes snaps with the Ones?

1145
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 9: It's funny.

1146
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 14: It looks like what you'd expect it to be with

1147
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 14: Russell Wilson as the quarterback. Right, dump dump dump dump

1148
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 14: deep pass, DePass DePass moon ball, like that's that's his thing.

1149
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 14: He's not a big I mean, this is demo throughout

1150
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 14: his career. Right, He's a smaller quarterback. He's not a big,

1151
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 14: middle of the field kind of guy, intermediate routes kind

1152
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 14: of guy. So like it's it's kind of looked like

1153
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 14: they quickly tailored it to what Russell Wilson does. And

1154
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 14: then when James Winston's in there, it looks different with

1155
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 14: him being.

1156
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 9: Super uber even in practice.

1157
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 14: Man, you'd be mean, James Winston is exactly what you

1158
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 14: think you would be. It's like ridiculous throw squid, Like

1159
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 14: you're like, why do you even throw that between like

1160
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 14: two or three defenders and then guy wide open like

1161
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 14: overthrowing it and airmailing it by like fifteen yards. You're like,

1162
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 14: this is you know, and that's and isn't that like

1163
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 14: what you kind of expect from him, But let's be honest.

1164
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 14: Russell Wilson's been their best quarterback in camp and you

1165
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 14: could see that.

1166
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 9: And for Jackson Dart like, you could see the talent,

1167
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 9: but he it's been what you'd expect from a rookie.

1168
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 14: Whereas there's some really good plays and you're like, wow,

1169
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 14: that's some throw he made right there, squeezed in the

1170
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 14: you know, a tight window throw downfield the run, and

1171
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 14: then you know they're taking delay games or he's taking

1172
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 14: a snap off the head and or you know, so

1173
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 14: the ups and downs I think that you generally see

1174
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 14: with the rookie. And it's been said coming into the season,

1175
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 14: a lot of people thought, you know, he'd be benefit

1176
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 14: from sitting and you know sort of the obviously not

1177
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 14: the Josh Allen route, the more like the Patrick Mahomes

1178
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 14: rout or the Aaron Rodgers type route where he sits

1179
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 14: and learns his rookie year. And I think that's kind

1180
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 14: of showed a little bit throughout the summer, which is

1181
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 14: why I think everyone's intrigued to see what they have

1182
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 14: here in the preseason. And then then Tommy DeVito has

1183
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 14: kind of been almost the odd man out, you know,

1184
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 14: quite the fall from grace for him. You know, the

1185
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 14: sort of folk here, local folk here here in New York,

1186
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 14: New Jersey.

1187
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: Got it. Jordan, thanks for the time. Is always safe

1188
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: travels man, and we'll see you up here.

1189
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 9: Take care, you gotta guys. Joy.

1190
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: That's ESPN Giants reporter Jordan Ranand joining us. And he's

1191
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: not wrong about Jameis Winston. If he's anything aggressive, he's entertaining.

1192
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: It's a roller coaster if he's on your team, but

1193
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: he is entertaining. As a matter of fact, the people

1194
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: on the Giant's website miked him up for a couple

1195
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: of practices and they titled it miked up Jameis Winston.

1196
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: You're welcome.

1197
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: And I'm sure people have seen some of the viral clips.

1198
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: Brian Dable gave the Giants an opportunity to get out

1199
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: of evening walkthrough if one of the quarterbacks could hit

1200
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: the crossbar on the uprights from thirty yards away, and

1201
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: a couple of quarterbacks missed. Jameis Winston is up and

1202
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: he says, you know, I know this is if we

1203
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: hit this here, we're going to get out of walkthrough tonight,

1204
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: but I'd like to see you all at three thirty

1205
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: Bible Study this afternoon. So I'm testing your faith with

1206
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: this throw. And then he throws the pass and sure enough,

1207
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: right off the crossbar and the place goes bananas. They

1208
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: get out of walk through and he goes, all right, now,

1209
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: how many am I going to see you at three

1210
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: thirty Bible Study?

1211
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: Come on? Now? I mean that's who he is. He is.

1212
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: If that guy doesn't walk in to a network studio

1213
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: or a network booth when he's done playing, I will

1214
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: be stunned. Because if he is, if he is anything,

1215
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: he's entertaining.

1216
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 3: He's hard not to like. Yeah, I mean even you know,

1217
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: he's just hard not to like. So there he that's it, man.

1218
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: He is entertaining.

1219
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: He's entertaining, and he's he's always got an upbeat. Even

1220
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: he comes off the field after're throwing a bunch of

1221
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 3: pick sixes and he's he's entertaining. Yeah. So that's been

1222
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: his hallmark, the hallmark of his career. He's always got

1223
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 3: a place to play because he is gifted. There's no

1224
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 3: question about it.

1225
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 2: We're still taking your questions from the OBL Friday fan

1226
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: mail bank, So if you have one, feel free to

1227
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: fire it off at us at eight oh three, oh

1228
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: five fifty one, eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty

1229
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: the numbers to jump on board with us, and we

1230
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: do have open lines for you. We do want to

1231
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 2: dive into the mail bag from the tweet sheet and

1232
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: there the first question comes from Joey Steve. How much

1233
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: did Steven Gosnell pay to get number eighty nine? From

1234
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: what I've heard and read, he's had a strong showing

1235
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: at camp. Thanks as always and go Bills. Well you

1236
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: think of your They didn't fellow number receiver.

1237
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 3: They're never going to retire my jersey. They washed it.

1238
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 3: I mean that's it. I mean that so yeah, no, hey,

1239
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: he's playing. Well, it's an opportunity and we'll see how

1240
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: what he makes up. But certainly he's got some gifts

1241
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: and he can he can play. I'm I'm listen, I'm

1242
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 3: cheering for him. I hope he wars. I hope he

1243
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: wars the jersey and quits himself extremely well, yeah, I.

1244
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: Mean he he has been the beneficiary of more reps

1245
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: with all the injuries at the receiver position. Much like

1246
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: guys like Christian Wilkerson and others. And I'll say this,

1247
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: he's a clever route runner. Like he's never gonna burn

1248
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 2: up the Stopwatch. But I think he's a clever route

1249
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: runner that can be sneaky at times in terms of

1250
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 2: getting separation and making some plays.

1251
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: And he's a bigger guy and he catches the ball

1252
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 3: really well. He's got good hands, so so he's not

1253
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 3: a surest thing together, he's got a shot at it.

1254
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: And with the added opportunities if he keep let's put

1255
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 3: it this way, if he keeps doing as well with

1256
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 3: each preceding opportunity that he earns, I mean they're gonna

1257
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: have a hard time getting rid of him.

1258
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that will be somewhere in the building, right like

1259
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: practice squad if anything. So yeah, we'll see where it goes.

1260
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: I do have to say, like, you got three Virginia

1261
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: Tech kids here on this roster, and they've all flashed

1262
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: in training camp. Dorian Strong, the sixth round pick, Keyante Jenkins,

1263
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: the undrafted rookie linebacker, and then Gosnell. They've all flashed

1264
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: through the course of training camp. So you know, as

1265
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,479
Speaker 2: far as the Hokies go, they've done pretty darn well

1266
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: here in Bill's camp, thus far grimmy on the tweets,

1267
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: she'd asks do tight ends, especially those who will be

1268
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: blocking like Jackson Hawes, receive coaching from both their position

1269
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: coach and coach Chromer. Their position coach is Rob Boris,

1270
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: the tight ends coach, and the answer to your question

1271
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: is yes and yes because they do get some instruction

1272
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: from Coach Chromer in terms of executing the blocking techniques

1273
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 2: and such that are required if they're going to be

1274
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: the in line guy. The quote unquote why tight end? Well,

1275
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: but they do work with Rob Boris. Primarily every team

1276
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: does it.

1277
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 3: I mean you'll have days where the tight ends will

1278
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 3: go into the O line meeting room and talk about

1279
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 3: how the plays the run game that they're gonna run.

1280
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, it just by happenstance, you'll get coaching from

1281
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: the O line coach. But yes, there will be some

1282
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 3: specific I don't know that he'll take him over and

1283
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 3: do individual work with him. Boris will do that. Yes,

1284
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: But Chromer and Boris are you know, they're on the

1285
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: same team too, So.

1286
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: I mean even here in the field house when they're

1287
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: not practicing, we'll often see coach Boris and Coach Chromer

1288
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: together and you know they might be just going for

1289
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 2: a stroll to get out of their office, right, you know,

1290
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: to stare at something else besides their screen. And they'll

1291
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: be here walking around the field house doing laps together

1292
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 2: and they're talking. You know, they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Stuff, probably not talking about the weather.

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Speaker 2: No George asks, how is the Bills defense doing to

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Speaker 2: change in regards to third down? Terrible last year and

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Speaker 2: hoping to see major improvement Go Bills. Well, I think

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Speaker 2: the change was based on the investment We witnessed free

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Speaker 2: agency defensive lineman side.

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Speaker 3: Three three defensive Mike and Joby and.

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Speaker 2: Joey Bosa, draft three drafted Landon Jackson, TJ. Sanders, Dion Walker.

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Speaker 3: So coaching and coach a new coach, defensive coordinator from

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Speaker 3: a year ago brought in here to be a defensive assistant.

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Speaker 2: So you have defensive line coach Marcus West, but now

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Speaker 2: you also have assistant defensive line coach Jason Rebrovich and

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Speaker 2: senior defensive assistant Ryan Nielsen. All three of those men

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Speaker 2: are working with the defensive line specifically, and it's for

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Speaker 2: a reason to get better on third down. But to

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Speaker 2: get better on third down, as you know, you have

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Speaker 2: to be better on first and second down to get

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Speaker 2: to those pass rushing opportunities to affect the quarterback on

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Speaker 2: third down. So that's a long way of saying all

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Speaker 2: of this investment is aimed at that. It's plain and simple. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's see what that translates into. They've added talent, both

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Speaker 2: veteran talent, young talent, and they've added coaching experience to

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Speaker 2: that position group. Let's see what all of that yields

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Speaker 2: for the group when it comes to the money down

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Speaker 2: third down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's I mean, that's a lot of we've

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Speaker 3: talked about it over the last month or two about

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Speaker 3: how much they've thrown at that defensive line, and it's

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Speaker 3: not all about third down, but it's about third down.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of assets thrown at that at

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Speaker 3: that But.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you just in the interactions we've had

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Speaker 2: with the coaching staff and the personnel department, they are

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Speaker 2: very excited to see what it brings to the field,

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01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: all of these investments they've made along the way, you

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01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: can tell the personnel department and the coaching staff on

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01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 2: that side of the ball is excited to see what

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Speaker 2: all that investment will bring to the product on the field,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully it's very very positive and much improved results.

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Speaker 3: They've always they always want, they always want a mix

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Speaker 3: of youth and veteran, savvy, young legs, old experience, you experience,

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Speaker 3: big guys, fast guys, exit the whole thing, and they

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Speaker 3: are very excited about the group they've got in there.

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Speaker 3: But they got that group's got to produce it now, see,

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Speaker 3: let's see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us here more of your questions,

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Speaker 2: both on the phone lines at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five fifty and on the tweet sheet at one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a Friday,

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Speaker 2: and the OBL Fan Friday Mailbag is open for any

1348
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 2: and all of your questions about the team, the roster,

1349
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 2: the depth chart, preseason, the schedule, whatever you got on

1350
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: your mind. Fire away at us at ato three oh

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Speaker 2: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five point

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Speaker 2: fifty and we go to Richard in Rock. Yes you're

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Speaker 2: and next, what do you got for us? Richard?

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Speaker 15: Good Afternoon's good to hear discussion your earlier segment. Amount

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Speaker 15: of soul so my thunder, but it's you know, I

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Speaker 15: love our gentle manager. I think he's done well with

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Speaker 15: our coach and synchronizing. But this defensive line. I heard

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01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 15: what you said earlier, but it resembles more like throwing

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01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 15: the kitchen sink at it versus having a very clear

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Speaker 15: defined plant. And so I don't know if it's the players,

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Speaker 15: the scheme, the coaches. I can't figure out what's going

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Speaker 15: on there because we're the slow development of Ed Oliver

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 15: not being able to do much with Boogie basham Epanessa,

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Speaker 15: not really firing, Rousseau doing okay.

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Speaker 9: I just.

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Speaker 15: I'm still not confident and I'm I'm worried because that

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Speaker 15: I think is our major culprit and get into the

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Speaker 15: yeah yeah from.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that either. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it's certainly if not, I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: one reason why the Bills can't, you know, get to

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Speaker 3: the super Bowl and win it, because there's so many things.

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Speaker 3: There's so many moving parts in every given The end

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Speaker 3: of every season is a little bit different than the

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Speaker 3: end of every other season. So I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: any one reason, but certainly getting to that point, I

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Speaker 3: think the defensive line and the way the defense played

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: last year was a big factor in it. They had

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Speaker 3: one They did one thing last year and one thing well,

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Speaker 3: and that was get turnovers. Everything else was a roll

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Speaker 3: of the dice in a given week. Certainly, once in

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01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 3: a while they'd get some sacks and you know, you

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Speaker 3: go back to some of the games you think, oh, yeah, man,

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01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 3: they got like four sacks in that game, but it

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Speaker 3: was a forty to seven blowout.

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Speaker 2: Right, So they were eighteenth in sacks last right, Eighteenth

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Speaker 2: is after being second the year before.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's an issue. I'm not saying the d

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Speaker 3: line is the only thing that they needed to work on,

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Speaker 3: or there is the magic lix ur for whatever, but

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, it's obviously this team puts some effort

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Speaker 3: into getting that group better. There's no reason to think

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01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 3: they felt like they needed to do that two years

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01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 3: ago because they were you know, like I say, second

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Speaker 3: in the league in sacks, and when they dropped off,

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Speaker 3: it dropped off big, so I think they missed it.

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Speaker 3: I think they put some effort into getting back to

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01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 3: that point, and I think the ripple effects of having

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Speaker 3: a dominant defensive line affect every aspect of the team,

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Speaker 3: and I think they realize it and they're trying to

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01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 3: get better quick I think, but I say this, Brownie

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01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: said it. The guys who are actually in it, they're

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 3: excited about it. They want to see it. They're excited

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01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 3: about what's happening over there during this far, during training camp,

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01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 3: obviously early, but they're excited about what they've seen so far.

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Speaker 2: I think they feel they're equipped with all of the

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Speaker 2: elements that you'd like to have for a defensive line.

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Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is they feel they've

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Speaker 2: assembled some elite talent. It's not all elite, but there's

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Speaker 2: some elite talent there. Bosa notably. I think they believe

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01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 2: Rousseau can get to elite status and this might be

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Speaker 2: the year where we finally see that happen. I think

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Speaker 2: they feel they have added an influx of youth, and

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Speaker 2: youth usually holds up better up there. Through the course

1415
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: of the season. They recover faster from little nicks and

1416
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: bumps and whatever, and I think they feel they've added

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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 2: valuable veteran experience, which in turn has given them depth,

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01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 2: so talent, youth, proven production, BOSA and experience. I think

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Speaker 2: they feel they have all of that in droves, more

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Speaker 2: than maybe they've ever had before. In the McDermott era,

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Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of one year contract players over

1422
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Speaker 2: the years. We've seen them assemble spare parts through the

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Speaker 2: course of the year. Last year included you know, Jordan

1424
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 2: Phillips and Quentin Jefferson come in here at the end

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01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: of the year because they're so shorthanded. I don't think

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Speaker 2: we're going to see that this year because of all

1427
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Speaker 2: the investments that we've talked about that have been made

1428
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Speaker 2: over the course of this offseason. Veterans, young players, coaches. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's see it and how it plays out. But I

1430
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: think they feel they the cupboard is as stocked as

1431
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 2: it has ever been for the defensive line, I believe

1432
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Speaker 2: in the McDermott era.

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Speaker 3: Right, we'll see if it worked plays out to that.

1434
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 3: Two years ago when they got Leonard Floyd, he turned

1435
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Speaker 3: out to be a home run for them, but he

1436
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 3: signed a one year deal and he moved on his way. Now,

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01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 3: he was in San Francisco last year, came back here

1438
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 3: and played in the snow game. Remember they did hit

1439
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 3: it with him. Now he was also playing with Vaughn

1440
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: and then Vonn got hurt, and then Vonn got hurt.

1441
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 3: So they were second in the league in sacks that year.

1442
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Speaker 3: So it worked. That plan does work. And you know,

1443
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: to Georgia's from Rochester's call, he said he felt like

1444
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 3: they were just throwing out this kitchen sink at it

1445
01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 3: without a real plan. Believe me, they've got a plan.

1446
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 3: They've got a plan and it and it before they

1447
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 3: execute any decision, before they signed Boza, before they signed Hoyt,

1448
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 3: before they sign Oguin Jobie, before they draft Walker, Sanders

1449
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 3: and Jackson, they look at what their options are at

1450
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 3: any given moment and they choose a plan from their options. So, uh,

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01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 3: this is the plan that they that they're executing, and

1452
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 3: they seem are the early going. They seem very happy

1453
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 3: with how it's gone.

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01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to some of our previous callers points, they've

1455
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 2: have had a lot of other plans and the results

1456
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: have been mixed at best. So the criticism is fair.

1457
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 2: But let's see what what this iteration of the defensive

1458
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: line brings this year because you can tell, like you

1459
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,919
Speaker 2: can visibly tell, the coaching staff and the personnel department

1460
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 2: is excited about what they've assembled for that defensive front

1461
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: this season. Let's hope the proof in the pudding is

1462
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 2: just as good. We go to Carl and Amherst next.

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Speaker 3: What's Carl.

1464
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Speaker 2: Carl Radio, Bud, what do you got?

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon, guys, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 16: What I'm calling about is I've heard a lot a

1467
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Speaker 16: lot on your defensive line and what I want to know, Uh,

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Speaker 16: what do you think of our draft choice, Devon Walker,

1469
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 16: our monster there a defensive tackle. Do you think that

1470
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 16: he's a bust? Or do you think that he's doing

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01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 16: well in camp?

1472
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Speaker 3: Well, it's Dion Walker, but yeah it.

1473
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't know played the game.

1474
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 3: He hasn't played it down. The upside on Dion Walker

1475
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 3: is enormous, just like his body is. He has shown

1476
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 3: the ability at the highest level of college football to

1477
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 3: play extremely well. He was projected two years ago to

1478
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 3: be a top fifteen pick in the NFL draft and

1479
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 3: then his uh, his back was hurt. He had a

1480
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 3: cars defect that the club that when they put their

1481
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 3: doctor's hands on him, when they got their medical report,

1482
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: they were not scared of that injury. They feel like

1483
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 3: he's going to be able to overcome that and move

1484
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: on to have the career he should have had and

1485
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 3: recover from it. If he does that, the Bill's got

1486
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 3: a top fifteen draft pick in the fourth round. They

1487
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: are handling him in the way they seem the team's

1488
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 3: best to them. They're going to get him on the field.

1489
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 3: And no, he is not a bust at all. He's

1490
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: a fourth round draft pick. The floor is low on

1491
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: a fourth round draft pick. His upside, though, is off

1492
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 3: the charts. We'll see where he heads. But they do

1493
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 3: have a guy that they have a lot of faith

1494
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 3: in it. Yes, there's no way you can say he's

1495
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 3: a bust after two weeks of training camp and twelve practices.

1496
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, give the guy a chance to let's see

1497
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 3: what he does. I mean that we're all in that

1498
01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: same spot right now.

1499
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: And the good news is coach mcdermoy pretty much said

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01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 2: at the outset of camp he's got a clean bill

1501
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: of health and he's good to go. Now. He's still

1502
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: going to be monitored because of that injury history, but

1503
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: they have not put any limitations on him after carefully

1504
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: monitoring him through the spring, because he went from getting

1505
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 2: three snaps in a team period to getting four snaps

1506
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: in a team period to getting five and then six

1507
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 2: and now here in training camp. You know the limitations

1508
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: are off. And where it goes from here, I think

1509
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 2: we'll see in the preseason when he gets to play full,

1510
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: all out football, because part of the reason his production

1511
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 2: dropped off so precipitously in his final year in college

1512
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: from what it was in the twenty twenty three season

1513
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 2: was because of that pars defect that went undetected and

1514
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 2: he played hurt. And when you're a six foot seven

1515
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: man at three hundred and thirty pounds and you have

1516
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 2: a lower back problem, you're not going to play with

1517
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 2: the same leverage you did when you were healthy, and

1518
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 2: it compromised his effectiveness as a player. If he can

1519
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: get back to being a pain free player, which all

1520
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: indications are he is now, and he can cut it loose,

1521
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 2: you might have something. Yeah, let's wait and see it.

1522
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: At least, as Steve said, let's at least give him

1523
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: a chance to prove what he can do on a

1524
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: football field. And he's learning on the job, just like

1525
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: everybody else in terms of the draft class and the rookies.

1526
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: So let's see how he progresses through his rookie season.

1527
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 2: We got to go back to the tweets sheet to

1528
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 2: get some more of the questions there. TL asks, I'm

1529
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 2: anxious to see Dalton Kincaid this season. Do we know

1530
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: how he feels this year? Who will Josh's target be

1531
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 2: in the middle of the field. I think it's safe

1532
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: to say that after battling knee injuries in both me

1533
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:05,480
Speaker 2: that in my estimation, compromised his speed and separation ability

1534
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 2: in the passing game, that Kinkaid feels considerably better this year.

1535
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he was basically playing last year with a

1536
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 2: torn pcl in one of his knees, and he played

1537
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:19,879
Speaker 2: through it. He was clearly impacted by it. He's healthy

1538
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 2: now and he really hasn't missed much time. I think

1539
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: he missed one or two practices with some knee soreness

1540
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,799
Speaker 2: that was remedied, and he hasn't shown any ill effect since.

1541
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: So everybody crossed your fingers right. You know, he gets

1542
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: through the preseason healthy and it's good to go in

1543
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 2: the regular seas.

1544
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: He is the thing about this offensive philosophy, the bills

1545
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 3: proved worked last year. Everybody eats a mentality. I mean,

1546
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 3: when somebody goes down on this offense, man, it's like

1547
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 3: changing a tire. It just keeps going because they don't

1548
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 3: depend on anyone guy. Now you had a problem four

1549
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 3: or five years ago when Steph Diggs goes down. If

1550
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 3: Steph Diggs went down, they got a whole in their offense.

1551
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,560
Speaker 3: They don't have anybody to fill this offensive philosophy. And

1552
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 3: one of the reasons it works so well is that

1553
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 3: if if Dalton Kinkaid is down, or if he's not,

1554
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 3: if he's not one hundred percent or what you've got

1555
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir, you got Keon, you got Curtis Samuel, you

1556
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,799
Speaker 3: got go down the list, and now you got Palmer,

1557
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: and you got more, you got Chanauld, you got all

1558
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 3: these Shavers. You've got a ton of other guys that

1559
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: are there. It's not This offense doesn't have this center people.

1560
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 3: And with an exception, maybe James Cook, you can make

1561
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 3: the argument for but even he rotates in and out. Yeah,

1562
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 3: I would love to see Kinkaid come in and play well.

1563
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 3: But even if he does, I don't know that it's

1564
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 3: gonna inflate his target share. You know, same thing with Knox, Cook, Coleman,

1565
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 3: Shakir Jackson, Hawes is now going to get you know,

1566
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 3: squeeze his way into that menu. So certainly the health

1567
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 3: of these guys is important because they want you want

1568
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:11,799
Speaker 3: him to play their best. But on offense, we got guys,

1569
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 3: you got guys, and nobody is so important that when

1570
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 3: you pluck him out of there, at least at the

1571
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 3: skill position, unless you know Josh, you pluck him out

1572
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 3: of there, it's gonna make a hole in your roster.

1573
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 3: So yes, I would love to see Kim Kid come

1574
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: out and be everything we hoped he'd be. But it's

1575
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: a crowded room. And one of the reasons this philosophy

1576
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 3: works so well is that many nobody's absence is going

1577
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 3: to make a big hole in it. Keon came in

1578
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 3: and blew it apart in a couple of weeks there

1579
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 3: with Seattle, and he came out in that was the

1580
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 3: Rams game, and the next week I can't remember what

1581
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 3: it was. There's a couple of weeks there where Keon

1582
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 3: was like, Wow, this is the guy we thought he

1583
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 3: was gonna be. He gets a wrist injury and the

1584
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 3: offense just hums along.

1585
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: So Kim Kaid can't run, he misses a month, and

1586
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 2: the offense just keeps keeps rolling. Thirty burgers every week.

1587
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yes, you want good players make you better,

1588
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 3: no question about it. Knox, Kincaid, Coleman, Shakir and the

1589
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: rest Cook Johnson, ray Davis, Ray Davis. I mean, this

1590
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 3: thing just keeps rolling. And it's because of this offensive philosophy,

1591
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 3: the way they use their people that nobody leaves a

1592
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 3: hole when they're not there.

1593
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 2: So, to answer your question, TL, he does feel better.

1594
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 2: He looks like he's running better. He looks back to

1595
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: the tight end we saw in his rookie season when

1596
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 2: he was getting separation and he was a viable target

1597
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: on a consistent basis. So as long as he stays healthy,

1598
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: hopefully that is what we see more of the production

1599
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: we saw in his rookie season when he broke a

1600
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: team record for tight ends in a single season with

1601
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 2: seventy three receptions. Gotta take a break here, one segment

1602
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 2: to go. When we return, we'll answer some more of

1603
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 2: your questions next here on an obl Friday fan mailbag

1604
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: edition of One Bill's Live. Because anybody call out health.

1605
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back here, I want

1606
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: Bills live, Chris Brown. Steve had asked me one second

1607
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 2: to go here and we'll answer a couple of quick

1608
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: questions left here on the tweet sheet in the OBL

1609
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 2: Friday fan mail bag, and Jack asks, I'd like to

1610
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 2: know about this punter Robbins. I've never heard of him.

1611
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: Is he experienced? He obviously beat out Kamarta, but how

1612
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: is his leg? Has he been getting good hang time?

1613
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: How about holding experience with bass out? I'm nervous. Also,

1614
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: how has Syracuse native Casey Rogers looked?

1615
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 9: All right?

1616
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 2: A lot in there, Jack, But I will say, through

1617
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: the course of the spring, when Kamarta was still here

1618
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: and there was a quote unquote punting competition, Steve and

1619
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 2: I felt similarly. We both felt Brad Robbins was a

1620
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 2: more consistent punter of the two. And then when they

1621
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 2: had to make a roster move because they had a

1622
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 2: ash of injuries at a position and they had to

1623
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: add there, what they did was they Camarta was expendable,

1624
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: and they clipped him, and all of it, for all

1625
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: intents and purposes, ended the punting competition it was started.

1626
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a consensus with all the casual guys

1627
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 3: that don't have any skin in the game, the media

1628
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 3: that he was better, punted better, bigger leg more consistently,

1629
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 3: the whole thing. They just noticed he would have been better,

1630
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 3: and that's why they made the move. When the roster

1631
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 3: got to the point, they said, let's make the decision now,

1632
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 3: so they did. Robbins. He's got plenty of He's got

1633
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 3: plenty of leg, yes, and.

1634
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 2: His hangtime has been good. He can drive the ball

1635
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: if you need him to, he can hang it.

1636
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 3: He can do the.

1637
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 2: Aussie style pun as we know, where it bounces back

1638
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 2: away from the end zone when you're trying to place

1639
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 2: it somewhere. He's demonstrated all of that and in camp

1640
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 2: and just for his history, just for a little background,

1641
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 2: he's a Michigan product. He was a sixth round pick

1642
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 2: of the Bengals in the twenty twenty three drafts, so

1643
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 2: a good enough punter where he got drafted, which isn't

1644
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: always the case. And he spent a year with the

1645
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals in the twenty twenty three season.

1646
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 3: You can your concern about his holding in the operation

1647
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 3: for fieldals. That's legit, I mean bass hasn't been out there,

1648
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 3: so they don't we haven't seen it. Now. He is

1649
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 3: the guy who when they brought Caden Davis in and

1650
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 3: signed him the kicker. He's the holder, so if the

1651
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 3: guys are working out, he's the guy's holding for the

1652
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: guys working out. So apparently he was good enough to

1653
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 3: get a guy signed by the team, although they didn't

1654
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 3: have a choice of holders, so they're happy with him

1655
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 3: doing that. Otherwise they wouldn't have made the movie either,

1656
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 3: So that seems to be okay. But you're right, that's

1657
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 3: a legit concern because we haven't seen it because of

1658
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 3: Bass's injury, not so much about Robins.

1659
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, and we'll see Robbins has got to perform

1660
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: in the preseason. But he's done very well in training.

1661
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 3: And you'll see Casey Rodgers on the field this weekend,

1662
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

1663
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been running with the third team most of

1664
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 2: the time here. For people that aren't as familiar with him, Yes,

1665
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 2: he's a Syracuse native, you know, played out West you

1666
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: know in college, and he was with the Giants, got released.

1667
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 2: Bill's picked him up and Steve's right, he will get

1668
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: a lot of playing time. Finally, from Patrick will the

1669
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: Utah alums get on the field. Cole Bishop and Dalton

1670
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 2: Kincaid seem to spend a lot of time injured. Kincaid's healthy,

1671
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: He's going to get some time tomorrow. Bishops still hurt

1672
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 2: with the quad injury. He will not play tomorrow. Kickoff

1673
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: is at one pm. I'll be on the radio side,

1674
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 2: Steve will be on the TV side, and we'll see

1675
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: you back here on Monday to recap it all at

1676
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:37,799
Speaker 2: one o'clock.