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It 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: is Thursday, February twenty second, and we have got a 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: ton of hilarious stuff to talk to you about today. 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: Very excited and thanks to everyone who's been watching the 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: Love is Blind recap episodes. That's been great. We've been 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: hearing from all kinds of people about our Love is 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: Blind things. 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, an old family free go ahead, no you 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: go hey, cause you gotta know. 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: You said, old family friend. 33 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: Old family friend, like my mom when I lived out 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: in LA for like two years as a kid. I 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: was like three and four, Like I hadn't seen her 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: since that since that long. But she saw the video. 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: She saw the YouTube which her brother said to her 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: and was like, Yo, you should check out check this out. 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: I know you watched that show, and she was like, 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: he looked familiar. 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: What the you know what I'm saying? 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: And then she saw that Saint Louis had in the 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: background and she was like, John Anthony. 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: Hit my mom up. 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 4: They known each other for like shit. I don't know, 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: bro forty years long as I've been around. So yeah, man, crazy, 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, we're reaching the totally 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: different demos. Bro, you know, sixty black women. You know, 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 4: the brand is brolic Nigga. 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: We've also, I think we've also helped bring a new 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: demographic to Love is Blind, which is great. We've met 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people treating it us. It's like, I 53 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: was never gonna watch that show, but I don't want 54 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: to miss out on a Jakinsones recap. 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: We have we have for sure help them reach the 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: real nigga demographic as well. So you know, thought tapped in. 57 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: That's what I was trying to imply. Absolutely all right, 58 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: he's Jus Joe's host to buy Dragonfly Jones. 59 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 5: Aka Tyler, Hey, everybody have the gun. 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: But Jethro Jenkins aka John was Aunt Buba's GUARDI b 61 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: aka Mike another fucking Mike. And we are produced by 62 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: the lovely and talented Jackson staff. On why we are 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: also produced, I mean we have a lot actually, we've 64 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: got a lot of producers. We never really shout Josh 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: or Biko out, but becou the even lovelier than Jackson 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: producer Beco has recently moved to Turkey, so at the 67 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: end of the show, we're going to ask her how 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: that went. She just moved from America to Turkey with 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: a child, and I'm excited for those. There's nothing better 70 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: than traveling with the baby. Travel stories truly like someone 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: volunteering to be in a in an action movie that 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: you wouldn't want to be in. But first we have 73 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: to talk about the feud of the decade. JJ Reddick 74 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: and Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers said, when asked about the 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: the road trip that included going from Dallas to Utah, 76 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: that it was one of the hardest road trips ever 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 3: put together and that the person who made the schedule 78 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: quote must have never been on an airplane. He said, 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: I'd already know. When people looked at that schedule before 80 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: the season, they were like end of a road trip 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: back to back in Utah. JJ Reddick went on national 82 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: television on the Talking Heads Giving Hot Takes show and 83 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: said that he does not think that Doc Rivers takes 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: accountability or is accountable, and which I think I know 85 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: people who are who like Doc Rivers, who I think 86 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: would agree with that. I mean, he's got like a 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: highlight reel of some of the funniest accountability dodges you'll 88 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: ever hear a head coach do. But some people took offense, 89 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: including Austin Rivers, Doc Rivers's son, and Pat Bev who 90 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: lets to Doc river defense. Uh, Tyler, how did you 91 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: end up feeling about Doc and JJ and UH and 92 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: and all of this? And I'll promise you this, Tyler, 93 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: anyone ever says that you are not accountable on national TV, 94 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: I will find you two better people to defend you 95 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: than fucking Pat Bev and Austin Rivers. 96 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: I promise you that that ship was just like a 97 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: fucking royal rumble of fucking you know, Doc Rivers criticism 98 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: like we had Spencer Hall's chime in, we had marcine 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: Gar tat Trot chime in. 100 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 101 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: Basically, you know, after after JJ said that Pat Bav 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: who's going to bat for his new coach, which is 103 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: what you would want from a guy, right, I'm not 104 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: holding that against Tad Bav. You know he's someone who 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: who that's his appeal and I think he knows that's 106 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: where he makes his money. Is he someone who will 107 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: get in the trenches and mix it up when no 108 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: one else will when it's above other people. You know, 109 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: Giannis is are gonna hop out there and get into 110 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: a fucking you know, Twitter debate with JJ. So you know, 111 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: he's earning his key right right, like you know, and 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: I am mad at him because he's someone who had 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: to do the little things like that to kind of 114 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: stay around, right. 115 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: He's it's also two for one for Pat Bev because 116 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: he has the new player with that reputation. 117 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: And their time the Sixers together as well. Yeah, yes, 118 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 6: but he's also a podcaster who you know what I mean, 119 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 6: always be content. 120 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: Like right, like we like like we're gonna end up 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: I think agreeing with JJ Reddick obviously, but like the 122 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: best thing for the numbers of the show would be 123 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: for us to say something that allowed our lovely and 124 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: talented producers to clip out Jenkins and Jones blast JJ 125 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: Reddick for Doc Rivers comments, which is what Pat Bev 126 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: leaned into and achieved. Because we're talking about Pat Bev now, 127 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: so salute to that, man, I guess yeah, yeah. 128 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: And and basically, you know, all the defense for pat 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: On well for Doc Rivers, it was just you know, 130 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: there was they weren't refuting JJ's points. They were just 131 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: you know, Pat came at him basically saying, you know, 132 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: you ungrateful. He's the only one who gave you a 133 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: shot when no one else in the league wanted to 134 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: pay you, and blah blah blah, which JJ refuted, you know, 135 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: came with the receipts. And then you know, you had 136 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: Austin Rivers who's like, you know, your best years were 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: under Doc. 138 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 5: You know, this is just completely ungrateful. Like that was 139 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: his whole point. 140 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: No one would speaking to the facts of what he 141 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: said about how Doc Rivers is just a fucking infamous 142 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: accountability dodger. We all know that, right, So so that was 143 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: what was interesting to me about that, and then it 144 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: kind of scaled into a whole bigger discussion that JJ 145 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: took on the next day on first take about you know, 146 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: the NBA discorse. 147 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 5: If y'all want to hop into. 148 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: That, we'll talk about we'll talk about that in a 149 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: in a minute. But I want to I just want to, like, 150 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: I just want to to drill in on why can't 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: you just say he's won a championship, I think he's 152 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: a great coach and leave it at that, like like 153 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: like like you said. No one refuted JJ's argument at all, 154 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: And there's been so much conversation round, but I haven't 155 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: seen anyone say no actually, like that would have been 156 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: a real defense. No, no, no, no, Like in a meeting 157 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: after this game, Doc came and said, hey, I didn't 158 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: do a good enough job of this whatever. Instead, it 159 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: just surfaced the receipts of you know, there's the seventy 160 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: six ers loss, which was like a super comic hoal, 161 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: like a string of excuses, and it's like, yeah, man, 162 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: like that's you know, him going. No one gave me 163 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: credit for going up three to one in the series 164 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: that we ended up blowing the worst. 165 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: They could not dig in the crates, They couldn't dig 166 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: in the crates and find any film from this dude 167 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: just taking accountability after us. But we did find, though, 168 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: was a clip of film last year in twenty twenty three, 169 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: talking about the two thousand and three lead that he blew. 170 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: With the Orlando Magic. 171 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: We found him wreck conning throwing people under the bus 172 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: from twenty years ago. We found that where he was 173 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: just completely off face too, where he's like you know, 174 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: you know, you know. 175 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 5: We listened to pissons, what do you want to do 176 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 5: they won a championship that year, they did not win 177 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 5: the championship that year. 178 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: Was right for growing up three to one against the 179 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: eventual champions and they were not the eventual champs. 180 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: That's the thing. 181 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: Two thousand and three the fucking Spurs one, right, The 182 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: Spurs won. In two thousand and three, Bro, the Pissons 183 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: won two thousand and four. The pis team that beat 184 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: your ass, Doc was not the same championship caliber Pistons team, 185 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: because we all know, you know, we were there. What 186 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: made that Piston team a championship contender and individual championship 187 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: with a championship team was the acquiring of Rashid. While 188 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: it's in two thousand and four, he was not there 189 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, bro. So so yeah, man, 190 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: I mean, not only was he throwing people under the bus, 191 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: you know, from for some shit they did twenty years ago, 192 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: he was lying like a motherfucker too, Like, God, damn dude. 193 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: Is this the first time somebody's brought this up publicly? 194 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: Because I feel like we've been talking about this like 195 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: the entirety of the podcast existence. Every time we bring 196 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: up Doc, where we're talking about how he's not taking accountability. 197 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: Why is there such a huge reaction to this, as 198 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: if like the entire NBA, you know what I'm saying, 199 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: world doesn't look at him in that way? 200 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 201 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: So I want, is this the first time it was 202 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: brought up on like a talking head public show And 203 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: I'm surprised if that's the case. 204 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen someone who played for him. 205 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: I okay, who played for him and was successful under him. 206 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, I don't necessarily agree with 207 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 3: Pat Beverasin Rivers like JJ redick Owes is the end 208 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: of his career to die. I don't. I don't agree 209 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: with that, but like, but but but but he he 210 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: was successful under him, So, like, you know, I think 211 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: that's the thing. And I think JJ is sort of 212 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: the he's kind of like he's sort of like money 213 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: laundering this like widely held opinion into the like top 214 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: level sphere of consciousness of like a talking head show 215 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: and a dude of his stature saying, and I think 216 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: that's kind of what the difference is. But yeah, man, like, 217 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: and that's it's not just us, it's not just talking heads. 218 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: I mean that, like you said, There's plenty of people 219 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: in the NBA who feel the same way about Doc. 220 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: He's just a very like, well respected guy for whatever reason. 221 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, agreed, disagree. Everyone who is 222 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: around him generally says he's a good person. I'm not 223 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: taking anyone away from that, but like, yeah, this is 224 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: not like a this should not be a shocking thing. 225 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 3: I think it's more of a like, hey, everyone knows this. 226 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: Everyone knows your aunt is crazy, but we don't fucking 227 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: talk about your ampiing crazy. Like that's what it feels 228 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: like to me. 229 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 4: Who said it where they said it, that's basically what 230 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: causes show God that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I mean 231 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: yeah yeah. 232 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: Jj Reddick, who truly hates, I think to his core 233 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: being caught up in this kind of narrativizing of the NBA, 234 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: Like I think it actually like physically bothers him to, like, 235 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: you know, be in the center of a content storm, 236 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: then had a quote where he said, uh, on first take, 237 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: I can do a video on my podcast where I 238 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: break down the last nine games the Pelicans have used 239 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: Zion Williamson as the primary ball handler. Fifty four thousand 240 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: views on YouTube. But I want to call out a 241 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: coach yesterday. Oh that gets tens of millions of engagements. 242 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: That's the ecosystem we live in. So do fans actually 243 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: want to be educated or not? I venture not wereate 244 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: to school. This is an ex motherfucker. 245 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: Bro, Why do you think why you think we do 246 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: a Love is Blind recap episodes? 247 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 5: We like drama? Motherfucker. 248 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: But you know, I see the larger point that JJ 249 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: was getting at, you know, saying that you know, the 250 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: course course around basketball is toxic, and yeah, that's the case, 251 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: that is the case. But I mean, I just don't 252 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: I just don't think that you can. I feel like 253 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: there's just so many extremes on here. I feel like 254 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: people think that that people just want either informative coverage 255 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: or entertaining coverage. I think people like like a healthy 256 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 2: mix of folk, right. I think it's heavier leaning on 257 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: the entertainment side, of course. But but I'm just of 258 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: the belief that, bro, if you want, you know, deep dive, 259 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: analytical film breakdown, shit, there's so much out here for you. 260 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 5: There's so much out here for you. 261 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: You're not gonna find it on ESPN on first take, 262 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: of course, not, but there's so much out here if 263 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: if you're really you know, someone who likes to get 264 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: in the trenches and likes that shit. There's there's a 265 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: low post, there's a dunker spot with with Nikayas and 266 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: Steve Jones like they do incredible work. 267 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 7: Bro. 268 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 5: It's so much stuff out here for you to find 269 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: if if you want you. 270 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: Know, that type of stuff, and if you want to 271 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: hear the silly shit like you know, the drama and 272 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: and cracking jokes, you got shipped like us another pot, 273 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: other pots and first take. Yeah, yeah, And I don't 274 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: think there needs to be the civil war between the 275 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: Sillybillies and the and the you know, calculator pushers on 276 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: this ship. 277 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 5: There's enough for everybody here, bro. 278 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 4: Talking heads are made for the masses, you know what 279 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Those shows are made for the masses. People 280 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: will watch sports and that don't watch sports. You feel 281 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And that's what first take is, you 282 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like when you break shit down 283 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: is for the nerves. That's a smaller percentage, you know, 284 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: That's why you get smaller views, you know what I mean. 285 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: So it's just what it is, and I think it's 286 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: always been that way. You know what I'm saying, And 287 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: that's it. I think that's media as a whole. That's 288 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: not basketball. Yeah, I mean there's more of a soap 289 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: opera in basketball than maybe another sport. But I don't 290 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 4: think basketball in particular is that way when referring to 291 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: what he's talking about. 292 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: So it's just it's it's it's not necessarily an indictment 293 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 2: on sports fan. It's like this, that's just how people are, bro. 294 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: There's the reason. Yeah, there's a reason why why the 295 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: number one song on the Billboard Top forty is going 296 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: to be some light hearted, hey, let's party and get 297 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: drunk type shit instead of some heavy, deep thought provoken 298 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: ship most of the time, right, Like that's just the 299 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: way the people are, Like, you know, people kind of 300 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: you know, prefer the fluff and the entertaining shiit. 301 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: Bro, there's a reason why Scott do was this guy's 302 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 4: who is not the best rapper in the world. 303 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. They can wrap his ass off, 304 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: but like, oh, nobody's trying to Not a lot of 305 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: people are trying to hear that. You feel me. I 306 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: think there's there's there's there's two components of this one 307 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: is a larger media thing that I'm really happy. Actually 308 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: it's funny that JJ Reddick ends up being the way 309 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: this gets brought up. But like, as a journalist, like 310 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: I hear that all the time. You guys have probably 311 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: made the complaint. I've made the complaint. You see the 312 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: complaint all the time. Well, why does the media cover 313 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: blank and not you know, this like serious thing. And 314 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: the answer to that question is almost always because you 315 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: are clicking on the fucking gossip, like you are clicking 316 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: on this coach said this crazy thing. Like and as 317 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: someone who produces content and as someone who's a journalist, 318 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: I understand that I don't have any illu about what 319 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: people want. Like I'm not TMZ, I'm not out here 320 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: like trying to you know, ruin someone's life or something. 321 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: But like I know, if I put up, for example, 322 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: cut really good coverage that my team is produced of 323 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: a high school girls basketball game, It's gonna get X 324 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: number of trade It's gonna get X amount of traffic. 325 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: If I put up a column saying not enough people 326 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: support girls basketball because of sexism, that's gonna get X 327 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: times ten. Like that is just like that's just the 328 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: reality of it. Is like people want anger, and that's 329 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: actually why social media exists in the way it does. 330 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: You don't click on a link unless you are angry 331 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: or happy to the point of crying. Like that's what 332 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: makes you click on a link, that's what makes you 333 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: watch a video all the way through. You don't watch 334 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: a video Like there's more people doing that than there 335 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: are signing up to take enrichment courses at their local college, 336 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And you know the other 337 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: aspect of that on the entertainment versus education. Why is it? 338 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: I don't understand why this is a dichotomy people try 339 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: try and draw. In sports, No one watches morning talk 340 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: shows and goes, oh, the actors are just giving funny 341 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: anecdotes about other actors. They're not talking about the science 342 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: of acting, Like what the fuck is this? Like, No, 343 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: it's entertainment, like sports is entertainment. It is most people's 344 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: escape from their reality. Like that's what they are and 345 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: that you know, that's our audience obviously, Like and all 346 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: three of us are interested in sports, Like I used 347 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: to watch the ESPN NFL matchup shit that they did 348 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: right there was actually breaking it. Ron Jaworski breaking down 349 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: the fucking x's and o's of like this is this 350 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: team's advantage. They put that shit out at twelve thirty 351 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: in the morning, Bro, Like I understood what that meant 352 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: as an eleven year old. Oh, I must be the 353 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: only motherfucker watching this shit. I mean he was Tolby 354 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,479 Speaker 3: seriously was breaking down athletes. 355 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It was beautiful to watch. 356 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 4: That wasn't on television. You gotta go to YouTube, you 357 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You know what I mean, Like 358 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: you feel me, And that's Kobe fucking Bryant doing it, 359 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So, like, yeah, there's particular 360 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: people that love that shit, but that's generally not the masses. 361 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: And that's just how it is an industry as a whole, 362 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: and of all sports, especially in basketball. Let's be completely honest, Like, 363 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: I think your average NFL fan, your average Major League 364 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: Baseball fan, probably had a more involvement with the sport 365 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: than your average basketball fan. They're probably more aware of 366 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: some basic scheme stuff. I had a like, we both 367 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: all three of us have got friends who watch the 368 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: finals every year who call it who said that Lebron 369 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 3: James is a bitch right, like all three of us 370 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: have for who just are like Ron James a bitch 371 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: But that's like but but people, But that's so much 372 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 3: of the finals audience is like yea. 373 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 4: Like Lebron is soft, Like you watched six games this year, 374 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like yeah. 375 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: But that's why that's who you're counting on to watch 376 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: the finals. And we've talked about this with the history 377 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: of the sport. The magic Johnson and Larry Bird did 378 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: not drive the NBA to new heights because people were 379 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: technically aware of the things they were doing that were special. 380 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: It was because the narrative of a white superstar and 381 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: a black superstar like that basketball, we needed racist that 382 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: moves a needle, you know what I'm saying. But it's 383 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: a story like it's you know what I'm saying, like 384 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: like that, it's the The NBA is more like pro 385 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: wrestling than any other sport, like like whether you like 386 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: that or dislike it, it is more about the celebrity 387 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: and the personality. And did you see that Jokish looked 388 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: jealous when Brunson was coming up to Luca, Like it's 389 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: more of that than other sports because it's more about 390 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: the people playing it than the other sports. Right, you 391 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: could be a Niners fan and all you love is 392 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers quarterback. You don't give a fuck 393 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: who it is. Your your grandpa felt that way, your 394 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: dad felt that way. Whatever, basketball everyone forever. Like I 395 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: was a Lakers fan who loved Michael Jordan because he 396 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: was Michael Jordan, that was the leader of youth culture 397 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: when we were kids, Like I didn't know anything about wow, 398 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: Like his athleticism allows him to do X, Y and 399 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: Z that other people's athleticism don't. It's just did you 400 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: fucking see Michael Jordan the dunk from last night? Like, 401 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: so that's health and science? What's wrong with that? Sports 402 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: science was fire was fired. Michael Jordan's reactions are quick 403 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: as a jaguarre. 404 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I mean, 405 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: Like this ship that they would say was insane and 406 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 4: I love that shit. 407 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 5: But yeah, but I mean I think it's this as well. 408 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: I think that as beautiful of a sport, basketball is 409 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: as complicated as schemes and such are. It's entertainment at 410 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 2: his court, it's entertainment, And what gets you invested in 411 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: entertainment is when you are emotionally invested in it in entertainment, right, like, 412 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: like you know, JJ Reddick made up how his you know, 413 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: how his his film about you know, Zion being the 414 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: primary ball handle only got like fifty four thousand views. 415 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: But I'm sure there was probably some emotional stuff that 416 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: he touched on in the video. I haven't watched it, 417 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: but I'm sure he he was like, you know, I'm 418 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: wondering how Ingram's going to adjust to Zion being the 419 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: primary Paul handle now, right, Like, that's an emotional aspect 420 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: of things. You feel me, there's there's no way that 421 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: you could separate that from this. And you know, I'm 422 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: just I'm just not a believer that we need to 423 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: kind of just you know, eliminate the emotional aspect of 424 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: things and just kind of focus on on the X 425 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: and os and the you know, syntax of shit. 426 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 5: That's not my Also. 427 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: He's ignoring certain things like Zion Williams is not like 428 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 3: you know, Yiannis. 429 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 4: You know, he's not as popular as he once was, 430 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: and he's talking about a New Orleans basketball player that's 431 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 4: a very small market, not a lot of interest in that. 432 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 4: So I mean, you gotta take those two things into 433 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: account as well, you know what I'm saying, Like, so 434 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: that doesn't make it as much sense. I mean, if 435 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 4: you're talking about a player that everybody's a fan of 436 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: on a big market team, that will make more sense. 437 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 4: You know, can compare it to a talking head show 438 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: that everybody watches. But even with that, the numbers wouldn't 439 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: be as much. But also you're talking about Zion. 440 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: Williams in New Orleans. 441 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, The Pelicans are a good team, 442 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: but who probably people are turning on the television and 443 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: watching Pelicans, let. 444 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: Alone competing on YouTube for that video. 445 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, right, Like, yeah, the SEO 446 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: isn't gonna hit Bro, you feel mean. 447 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: Like yeah, and I and and I would add by 448 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: the way, like all three like we've all had frustration 449 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: with the media ecosystem around the NBA and sports like. 450 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 4: Oh that's why we like, That's why I said football 451 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: was good because you can learn while watching the sport 452 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: is a better product. 453 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 3: So I definitely agree there's a good medium. Yes, yeah, 454 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: so so, but I do want to make that clear, 455 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: like we're not none of the three of us are, Like, no, 456 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: the media ecosystem is fucking great around the NBA. We 457 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: talked about it a lot, like the frustrations with it, 458 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 3: but I do think you have to start at least 459 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: with a clear eyed understanding of who you're talking to 460 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: and who the fans of the sport are. And they 461 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: just are not people who are waking up going I 462 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: wonder what Brandon Ingram's off ball movement is going to 463 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: look like today. It's just not It's just not the case. 464 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: Like even for the most die hard NBA fans, that's 465 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: a that's a that's a tough that's a tough, right, 466 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: you know. 467 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: What I mean. 468 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: And also and also something that is just foundational at 469 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: the core of NBA fandom is confirmation biased, right, Like 470 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: you know, that's why we have all these stand accounts, 471 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: and and that's why we have you know, all these 472 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: these these these sects of you, you know, these sections 473 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: of people who who who just you know, root for 474 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: certain players or certain teams is because they're like, look, 475 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: I think Lebron is the greatest player ever. He is 476 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: on the path to prove that to y'all, And I'm 477 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm not coming off this boat until y'all are fucking convinced, right, 478 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: That's that's why there was such a visceral reaction to 479 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: what Jada said, because it was like, finally, you're saying 480 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: what we've all said. You are confirming our biases on 481 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: doc rivers, right, you know? 482 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 5: So so yeah, So that's a big part of it too, Bro. 483 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,239 Speaker 4: Every time I buy tickets is a weird pick your 484 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: own adventure experience with a bunch of hidden fees, and 485 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: I never know what I'm gonna expend. 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Seven two 525 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty hotel rooms and a minimum of three 526 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: five star hotels, convention center of six hundred and fifty 527 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 3: thousand square feet of exhibition space. This is our favorite. Number. 528 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: Three seventy five NonStop domestic flights and at least twenty 529 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: international flights. The NBA told Indianapolis the same shit we 530 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: told Indianapolis, but we didn't start talking about your hotels, 531 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: whack your airports bullshit. They got their wize nigga. You 532 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I don't like the way you 533 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: smell your jeans a week nigga. Your shoes is dirty, 534 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 3: your haircut trash nigga. You know what I'm saying. Like 535 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: they got into wize on that mum, but they start 536 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: to flaming them niggas. 537 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: Bro brought convention centers and everything in this moffuck Like, 538 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: oh you' your city's never hosted a comic. 539 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: Con right, right right, you don't have three five star 540 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean hotels? 541 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: You know, like that shit got nigger, that shit got crazy, 542 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: you feel me? Oh christ Yeah. 543 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 7: And the flight thing actually is brutal. 544 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 8: There was like no NonStop flights Indianapolis. And when I 545 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 8: went and I was like, oh, we booked our shit 546 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 8: kind of late. That's probably why they're all booked up. 547 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 8: And I just but I just looked at it for 548 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 8: a random weekend in a few weeks. There's only three 549 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 8: NonStop flights from La' to Indianapolis, and one of them 550 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 8: is a red eye, like for when you're descending La 551 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 8: Nigga from Los Angeles and you're la these people all 552 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 8: at once. I mean, I'm not I'm not trying to 553 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 8: like say say I can't take a flight with the stop, 554 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 8: but like it's kind of crazy, Yeah, it's not convenient. 555 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna say this. 556 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: I just cannot believe how much I have been leaning 557 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: Republican with so much of this All Star shit LA 558 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: and I do not like this, Like, you know, we 559 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: crack our jokes on how in Indianapolis is a city 560 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: that probably shouldn't have the All Star Game. But I 561 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: would have never thought the NBA would have taken, you know, 562 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: take an action like that. And you know, especially you've 563 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: got small market teams like, okay see building a new arena. 564 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: The understood unspoken rule was you build a new arena, 565 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 2: you're eventually getting an All Star Game, right, Like That's 566 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 2: how it's been throughout the history of the NBA. And 567 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: I just feel like, you know, the small market teams 568 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: are getting cheated. I'm really turning into that guy. You 569 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: know that the small market teams are you know, get 570 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: the short end of the stick again. And like, like 571 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: we said before, all Star games for the kids, bro, Like, 572 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: like from like fucking seven to like twelve, Like that's 573 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: the prime demographic of the people who truly, truly, truly 574 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: enjoyed the All Star Game. And I feel like, you know, 575 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: some okay see kids just got screwed over here. 576 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they don't have the money to pay to 577 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: go to the All Star Game though, you know what 578 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 579 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: So I think this is about that, you feel me? 580 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 4: I just I don't know, bro, Like do we It's 581 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 4: like we just said, it's about entertainment, nigga. 582 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 583 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: You go to the All Star Game and you're spending 584 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 4: your money out there, you want to be entertained. Who 585 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 4: are the people that are going there? They're not going 586 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 4: to get the same amount of entertainment. And okay, seeing 587 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 4: Indianapolis as other cities, and so I see why they 588 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: there was issues, you feel me, It's odd that the 589 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 4: NBA would come out and just say fuck y'all, you 590 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like I thought. 591 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: They would do it. 592 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 4: I thought they would do it a little bit, be 593 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 4: a little more slick about it, you feel me. 594 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 3: But this was pretty overt, you know what I mean. Yeah, 595 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: I mean to both of your guys's point. That's what 596 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: was surprising to me. They could have just not scheduled 597 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 3: the All Star Game in Indianapolis. Instead, they released a 598 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: list saying, here are the ways in which we found 599 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: you specifically inadequate. That's crazy to me. 600 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 5: Big bro. 601 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: I just it's it's just so odd to me that 602 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: this is these are the measures the NBA takes, right 603 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: like after you basically had so many superstars saying bro, 604 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: we do not take this ship seriously, and they're like, okay, well, 605 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: we are going to only have this in cities that 606 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: are going to be an even bigger distraction from the 607 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: on court ship, right, Okay, you couldn't locked in Indianapolis. 608 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: Atlanta and Miami are the answer, now, Like, really, how 609 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: does that make sense? 610 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 5: Bro? I just don't get it. 611 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: What cities would y'all want to see the All Star Game? 612 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: And it's l A, Miami, La, New York. I love Chicago, bro. 613 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, he ball. 614 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 3: Midwest one even if it is fucking negative seventy degrees whatever. 615 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: It's fun though, that's it. Houston, Hell yeah, Houston? Hell yeah? 616 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: Did you say Atlanta? Y'all said Atlanta? 617 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 618 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 8: When they inevitably expands to Vegas and Seattle also, I 619 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 8: would put those two on the list. 620 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 7: Maybe not Seattle for the masses, but for me. 621 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: See, but Seattle, to me is a great example of 622 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: using the All Star Game for a purpose. Right, that's 623 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: a great I mean you you hard launch, like hey, 624 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: and then you announced that an All Star Game in Seattle. 625 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: The Sonics are coming back with this ownership. I mean 626 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: like that's bro, that's a moment. And it is a 627 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: like you're you're like you're almost like acknowledging, like this 628 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: is fucked up. We let this city that we won't 629 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: even let host an All Star Game. Take the take 630 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: your Seattle SuperSonics. We're back here as like, you know, 631 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: you haven't had the NBA in Seattle in too long, 632 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: So here's the All Star Game. We're bringing all the 633 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: superstars here because we robbed you of fucking Kevin Durant. 634 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: James ared like this was not like the fucking Baltimore 635 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: cult sneaking out of ball, Like this is like we 636 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: took the biggest names like in basketball to Oklahoma. We 637 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: took him away from you in Seattle. Yeah, Anyway, I think. 638 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: That you don't think the demo to go like, you know, 639 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: I think any apples they say it's great at hosting 640 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 4: shit like n C Double A Tourney and all that shit. 641 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 3: I feel like that's a very different demo from the 642 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: All Star. 643 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 4: People that go up to All Stars, go to All 644 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: Star want much different from I think people that are 645 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: traveling to watch the NC Double A Tournament. So like, 646 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's a it's not good at hosting shit. 647 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: I'm just I don't think it's probably good at hosting 648 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: an All Star I think there's very few cities equipped 649 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: to you know, fulfill the people that are going to 650 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 4: be a tending All Star Game. They're traveling for All 651 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: Star Games. You know what I'm saying. 652 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, NBA and NC Double A fans are two different 653 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: different breeds. 654 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: Bro, Bro, I mean, you go to this ook and 655 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 4: you bring your whole family with you a lot of times. 656 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's a totally different experience 657 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: all Star Bro. You might you know it's it's wild 658 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: boy time you feel or a wild girl you know 659 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: what I mean. You're not inclusive over here or wild 660 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: day you know. Hey, you know what I mean. But yeah, 661 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: all right, Uh, let's talk about h This connects too. 662 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: I just didn't want to talk about him that high 663 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: up on the show. But this does connect with the 664 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: Doc Rivers. Rick Patino challenge ing Doc Rivers for worst 665 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: accountability taker in the sport of basketball right now. Rick Patino, 666 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: after a recent loss, said, the coaching this year at 667 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: uh it says Saint John's I believe correct that he's coaching. Yeah. Yes, 668 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 3: he said that it's been the worst experienced, the least 669 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: enjoyable experience of his life. He said that quote, our 670 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: lateral quickness and toughness is something I've never experienced. He 671 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: specifically named individual players as being too slow. Laterally retired. 672 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: He said, we're unathletic defensively, we have no lateral movement. 673 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: It's not the effort. This is your basketball team. Unlike 674 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: Doc Rivers. You produly, You built this score. 675 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 5: You like y'all ever see that mean that said? How 676 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 5: you say subway trash? Nigga, you made the sandwich. 677 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: Like it's basically this, right, it's basically this in basketball terms. 678 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: But but you know, to Patino's credit, I think this 679 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: is trash. I was just never be a fan of 680 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: calling out college kids by names like in the pros, 681 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: go ahead and do that, right, Like, but. 682 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: This brown ass man, you feel me? 683 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'll never be on on the side of that. 684 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know we can necessarily say that this 685 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: is Patino of being under the bus thrower. I think 686 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: he's just a brutally honest dude. 687 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 5: Y'all. 688 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: Remember when he was being investigated, this man put his 689 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: hand on the Bible and said in front of a 690 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: court that he only lasted like fifteen seconds when he had. 691 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 5: Sex with that woman. Like this is a dude who's 692 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 5: going to be a. 693 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: Straight shooter at talking about himself, don't nigga, yeah, putting 694 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: himself on black. 695 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: It's different when you clop piling out. You know what 696 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Nineteen twenty twenty one year olds, you feel 697 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 698 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, I think that's trash, that's inexcusable. 699 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 2: But I do you think this dude is just a 700 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: super honest, straight shooter bro, like like like, you know, 701 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: I think that he's I wouldn't necessarily say call him 702 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: an accountability dodger, like like doccus Men, because we've never 703 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: seen Doc you know, say hey, yeah, I'm trash, you know, say, 704 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: we've never seen that. 705 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: I'll last eighteen seconds. 706 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: Nigga, I'm motherfucking bed, I'm short stroker, nigga before Jesus 707 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 4: stroke shorty. 708 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't. Yeah, I feel like what 709 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 3: a chip off is. Like, Bro, how much money do 710 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: you have? Well you know what I mean? 711 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: And you are on television this frustrated. This is the 712 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: worst experience of your life. 713 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: Nigga, lead Bro, don't waste no more time, baby, It's 714 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: over with dog. You know, if you worst experience in 715 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: your life, it might not be thing for you to do. 716 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 5: No more. 717 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: Enjoy the money, Enjoy the rest of your life though, 718 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: spend time with your grandkids. 719 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: My boy, crazy. 720 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't imagine, couldn't imagine being that having that 721 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 4: much money, being that age, talking about I had the 722 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 4: worst experience of my life. 723 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: The fuck you mean? How mid season? Fuck would y'all 724 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: think legacy built? Okay, I'm out of here, nigga, you 725 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: feel me? Ain't no way? All right, let's talk about 726 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: the new food Sensation dropping tomorrow on February twenty third. Tyler, 727 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: this nigga, got that? Or you talking about some shit? No, no, no, no, no, 728 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: this is this is Tyler brought this to my attention. 729 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't otherwise, But KFC is debuting a new pizza 730 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: inspired fried fried Chicken menu item called the Chizza. It 731 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: is uh fried chicken. I assume strips with cheese and 732 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: tomato sauce and pepperoni on top of it. Tyler, it 733 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: did a little something for you. I'm not gonna lie. 734 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 5: Look, I'm I'm curious. 735 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: Like, for one, fried chicken is the listen, maybe not KFC's, 736 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: but pizza is the listener to be used. 737 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 5: To be fire. 738 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: And you combine the two and like, bro, what's not? 739 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: What's what is there not? To being treated by. It's 740 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: basically chicken parmesan with pepperoni. Like you know what I'm saying, 741 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: chicken palm baby, that's it, man, I am, I am 742 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 2: willing yet, Yeah, I'm willing to venture out there and 743 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 2: try that ship. 744 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 3: Ain't no way I'm eating that ship. 745 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 4: But this was the most American meal I've ever heard 746 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 4: described in my lifetime. You feel me, Pizza and chicken, 747 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 4: you know you can't eat them. Let's make them one motherfucker. 748 00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 4: Let's see what happens done. 749 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 5: I'm the surprise how it tell me how I'm honestly. 750 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: Surprised with with with the with with with the with 751 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: the marriage that chicken wings and pizza spots have that. 752 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: No one's ever made chicken pizza wings before. Like it's 753 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: right there, Bro, you got all the ship, Like, so 754 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: it's a. 755 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 4: Pizza on top of the wings or they just putting 756 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 4: wings on it. 757 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: It's no, it's it's it's like some chicken tenders and 758 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: they put you know, the Marionnaire sauce and the cheese. 759 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 5: And the pepperoni. 760 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 7: It's like fried chicken is the crust. 761 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 4: Yeah basically yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Hey, I don't know, bro, 762 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 4: I think that. I think it's a lot of steps 763 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 4: you have to take to get to that point, you 764 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 4: know what I mean, chicken on the pizza, but like 765 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 4: a stack of chicken and then we can put some 766 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 4: pizza on top of it. 767 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: That's I see why it took that long to get there. 768 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: But they clearly have. 769 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 9: An interest in making I hear you making chicken as 770 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 9: bread because they also used to have that chicken sandwich 771 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 9: where there was two chicken as the blayers of bread 772 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 9: on a sandwich, so they clearly it was chicken to 773 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 9: bread pipeline going. 774 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 7: On in KFC. 775 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: It's got breading on it, right, Yeah, it's got flour 776 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 3: on there. 777 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: I mean every piece of fried chicken is a chicken sandwich. 778 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: Technically it's fried bread on him. 779 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 3: I love that. Wow, that's a great point. Wow, it 780 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 3: is there. 781 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 2: Bones and is He's like, yeah, it's like chicken tender 782 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: type ship. 783 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, this makes more sense to me. Okay, okay, 784 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 4: I thought it was like actual chicken wings. Like, yeah, okay, 785 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 4: it makes more sense. 786 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I love that. We're hot dog is a sandwich? 787 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 8: Who cares fried chicken? Now that's a sandwich tired and 788 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 8: wired baby, that's what we are with it. 789 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 4: Eat that sandwich and had that that had that glazed 790 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: donut as the bread, the chicken sandwich with a glaze 791 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 4: as the bread. 792 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 3: I didn't have it. That was actually where I got 793 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 3: off the bus. I tried every disgusting fast food creation 794 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: this country produced prior to that, and that was the 795 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: one where I was like, it's time to grow up, 796 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: time to put childish things aside. I hate when I 797 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 3: got three bites in it with my hair started hurt. Nigga. 798 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, dog, I'm too young for this to be. 799 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 3: Sugar in your eyeballs. 800 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 4: Man, I'm like, jig girl, I'm like, this is not 801 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 4: blood pressure was I'm like, damn brow, how hard did 802 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 4: the mcgriddle hit you out when it drop? 803 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 3: Oh? That shit was crazy? I still me. And Rother 804 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 3: was talking about making her own the griddles at the 805 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 3: crib niggas you. 806 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 4: Feel me like figuring out how to put honey into 807 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 4: like pancakes, you know what I mean, and making the 808 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 4: pancake the bread and then adding like, you know, the cheese, 809 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: eggs sausage type shit. She don't eat sausage, but you 810 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 4: know what I mean. For me, I'm at a sausage. 811 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 4: The griddles is nigga top tier bro. 812 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 2: I vividly remember the summer mcgriddles drop Summer Old three. 813 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 2: I remember me and the homiesa going to Virginia Beach 814 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: for the Fourth of July. We had drove back to 815 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: the crib. It was like six in the morning. We 816 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 2: stopped at fucking McDonald's and try mcgriddles for the first time, 817 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: and we was playing for real front and I was like, dog, 818 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 2: this was a perfect fucking day. Like listen, mcgriddles will 819 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 2: always hold a place my heart. I haven't eaten them 820 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: in like five six years, but when they first hit 821 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: the dog fivers. 822 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 5: Six, you. 823 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 3: That recent, nigga, that's crazy. 824 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 8: I didn't know the memory of any human being on 825 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 8: the season that was. 826 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: You would have to remember that night forever. 827 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 4: That was also he also remembers the time that he 828 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 4: stole that he stole some fries. His homie had a 829 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 4: friar dip the fries in. There was like, this will 830 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 4: be the best day of my will never get better 831 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 4: than this. 832 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 3: No, no, no. 833 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: Bag bag of McDonald's chicken. I was working at McDonald's 834 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: high school. Me and the homies decided to cut school 835 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: one day and play fucking Golden Eye and listened to 836 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 2: a Quimini and I had a bag of frozen McDonald's 837 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: nuggets for a fucking seventeen year old. 838 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 5: Do you bro got high? 839 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 2: Right? 840 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 5: Okay, first we got high. 841 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 2: So we were some seventeen year olds listening to a 842 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: Quimini eating McDonald's fries, smoking, Bro. 843 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 5: Life doesn't get any better than that. 844 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 4: A lot of your memories are surround to buy food, 845 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 4: and I think that's a lot of people. I guess, 846 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, you took a bite 847 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 4: of that motherfucking mcgriddle and like the fucking the sunshine. 848 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: Like lower petals. 849 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 4: Bro, It's like food is his version of mushrooms, you 850 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like the colors on the on 851 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: the on the grass and the leave like are way more. 852 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 3: Vivid when he took the bity of that motherfucking mgriddle. 853 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 4: Maybe that's not fool I think McDonald's because a lot 854 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 4: of your you know, the experiences are surrounded by McDonald's, 855 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. 856 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 3: I mean, that's why McDonald's. 857 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 4: Brom Fish would like go crazy, though, but would like 858 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 4: go crazy. 859 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: I'll give you mcgriddle is wild fish is fine. I 860 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 3: think I genuinely think that's what I talked to my 861 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 3: kids about that all the time. You also, I think 862 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 3: I sent you the picture of the of the Kurvana 863 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 3: get quote we've had up in Vinnie's room since he 864 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 3: was a baby, the like you know, noted like, uh, 865 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 3: I urge you to notice, like if this isn't nice, 866 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 3: you know what is like? I really think appreciating those moments, 867 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: the like not the like, oh I'm at the fucking Oscars, 868 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 3: but like the quiet daily moments like that. I texted 869 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 3: y'all a Sunday a couple of weeks ago that was, 870 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: like all I did was play with my kids, go 871 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 3: to the park, watch fucking football, and cook today. It 872 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: was like this was just like a perfect fucking day. 873 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, I think that's a real Everything in 874 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 3: this country is pointed to making you not realize that 875 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 3: that like how cheap most of those days are. Also, 876 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But I have the same 877 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 3: thing as Tightler, Like when I was a kid, we 878 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 3: were home all summer and my parents were both working 879 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: and my best friend lived three doors away. I remember 880 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 3: every night I would go to bed, like you know, 881 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: like fourteen years old, Like it's probably not gonna be 882 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 3: the case for very long in my life that my 883 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 3: best friend is three doors. He's a thirty second walk 884 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 3: from my house, and we played video games in basketball 885 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 3: and football all day. That's all we do. I just 886 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: remember being aware of that as a kid, like, damn, man, 887 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 3: this is gonna go away because my parents don't ever 888 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: do anything. 889 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: Like this living a sitcom life. Bro, Whenever I watch 890 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: the sitcom, I'm always in here. I'm like, Bro, you 891 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: and four of your best friends live in the same 892 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 2: apartment on it, Like how perfect is that? 893 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 3: You know what? College? That's because like for the people, 894 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: you only get that shit out, Yeah exactly. 895 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 4: I feel like my memories are surrounded by like earth shit, 896 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 4: like the planet, you know what I mean. 897 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 3: Like, Oh, this motherfucking this is a beautiful fucking day. 898 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 4: I remember, like in seventh grade playing basketball and it 899 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 4: was spring in Tennessee. Sat down on the ball and 900 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 4: just was like, this is fucking beautiful. I can't believe 901 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 4: you get a chance to live here, you. 902 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. So like usually like outdoors is 903 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 3: like where I'm. 904 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, you know what I mean. Like 905 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 4: that's when I have like those moments. I know I'm 906 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 4: in that moment. I knew I'd never forget that moment, 907 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I was like, I will 908 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 4: never forget this moment, like it felt a particular way, 909 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 4: and I just think like Earth, like Earth is my mgrib. 910 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I have those moments traveling 911 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 3: now too. I did not have that at all when 912 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 3: I was a kid. It was just where are we? 913 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? All right, well, I might 914 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 3: be about to have one of these moments right now. 915 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 3: I have procured a Reesis Caramel big cup. Boy, if 916 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 3: you guys are okay watching me eat for fifteen seconds, 917 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try it right now. This is hot off 918 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 3: the presses. Thank you to my unnamed assistant in helping 919 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 3: me get one of these. All right, I'm nervous about 920 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: this because, first of all, the big cup is not 921 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: my favorite Reesis product. I do not prefer the ratio 922 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 3: when there's this much peanut butter. Peanut butter. 923 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, so can you describe this? 924 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 8: So it's like a bigger Receis cup, and I was 925 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 8: supposed to have caramel inside in addition to the peanut butter. 926 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 3: Yes, and if I'm to go by the packaging, it 927 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 3: looks like the caramel is in a layer on the bottom, 928 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 3: which also makes me worried textually about it. Because of 929 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 3: peanut butter. One of the things I love about a 930 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 3: Reese's seasonal peanut butter candies is that you get the 931 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 3: juxtaposition of the dry peanut butter with just a little 932 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 3: bit of the moistness from the chocolate. You know what 933 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 3: I mean, But I don't know. 934 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 7: A JJ Redick style. 935 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: I don't know you position talking about fucking Reese? Is 936 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: this crazy? But go ahead, brother, They a lot of 937 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 3: They sell a lot of them off that junction position. 938 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 3: Important question. Do people want to be educated or not? 939 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,919 Speaker 8: Okay, I want to be educated, which is why I'm 940 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 8: advocating that you go against your three normal strategy of 941 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 8: one bite. 942 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 3: I can't do a big cup, and you have to. 943 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 7: I want to see a cross section. I need to 944 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 7: see I want to see the. 945 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 3: Oh okay, these are too big. It's probably twice dog. 946 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 3: It's probably twice the size of at least's peanut butter cup. 947 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, I would. I wouldn't personally crack. 948 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 7: It one bite. Everybody knows like a. 949 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: Like an animal me, Bro, don't leave us hanging that. 950 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 7: Mike's picking up that chew sound and hear that carmel smack. 951 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, smacking, that's caramel in there. 952 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 3: Oh you don't like it. It's mad to you. It's 953 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 3: mad to you. So the caramel is on the bottom. Okay, great, 954 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,959 Speaker 3: it's not a real high quality caramel. You ain't fucking 955 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 3: with it, Jackson. 956 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 2: That ship looks solid, it looks it looks great. I 957 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 2: don't know, man, that caramel ain't goofy enough for me. 958 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 3: Bro, that's what That's what I'm saying. I was expecting 959 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 3: it to be like a Giadelli type like actually like kind. 960 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 7: Of is that what you're saying? Or like what it's not? 961 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 3: And it's it's not the right consistency, which is difficult 962 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 3: because if they put if it was truly a soft caramel, 963 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 3: it probably melts in with the peanut butter. 964 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 4: Is this your only the only reasons you taste were 965 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 4: it's just been mid to you because it seems like 966 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 4: you're just you're Reese super fan, like you know, I've. 967 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: Tasted every Recis product they've ever put out, and I've 968 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 3: only talked about the ones that truly like mean something 969 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 3: to me, you know what I mean? 970 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 8: So a lot of the seasonal well, I'm okay, sorry, 971 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 8: I don't want to open up Pandora's box. 972 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 3: How do you feel about the Reces Take five? This 973 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: is a long standing debate between me and Sharp preferred. 974 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 3: You know, you know you don't know what to take five? 975 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 5: Bar Is bro I said, I'm not a fan. 976 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 3: I had him like when people will give them away 977 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 3: for Halloween, but I never would buy one this. 978 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't do that. I don't do the sweet, savory. 979 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: Sweet and salty. You don't fuck with it, Tyler, But yeah, 980 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 3: I I love I love the Reces Take five. But 981 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 3: shar preferred to take five when the peanut butter was 982 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 3: not Reeseus because she because it's like it's almost like 983 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 3: too sweet for her, that it's like too much sweet 984 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 3: and too much salty, because she liked the salty with 985 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 3: a little bit of sweet that went too far. I 986 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 3: feel like that's kind of how I feel about this. 987 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 3: It's I wouldn't say it's mid. I mean, I'm still 988 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: going to finish this. 989 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 4: If you're gonna finish it, I'm like, you look like 990 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 4: you put it down I'm like, you put down the 991 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 4: ress like I put. 992 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 3: It down because we probably don't need more audio of 993 00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: me chewing. But but yeah, no, it's they didn't do 994 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 3: for me what I was hoping it would do if 995 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 3: it had to, if it had like a soft caramel 996 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 3: in it. I feel like they would really have done something. 997 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 998 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 3: You think it's because it's the early release. 999 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 4: Maybe they'll change it up a little bit and get 1000 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 4: three Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's we get the update. Maybe 1001 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying better you feel me? 1002 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 3: No, I think it's very similar to I mean, this 1003 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 3: is gonna be the same thing with the chizza. You 1004 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 3: can't have the if the Marinera gets into the breading 1005 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: and makes the breading soft, that's going to be disgusting, right, Like, 1006 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 3: that's that's not what you would want from the chizza. 1007 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 3: I feel like they had a similar issue. They had 1008 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 3: to go with a thicker, more sedentary, uh caramel, because 1009 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 3: otherwise it just gets absorbed by the peanut butter. But why, 1010 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, that'd be great. That sounds 1011 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 3: like it'd be I'm not mad at but people are 1012 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 3: gonna eat it and go, oh, it's just a car. 1013 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: It's just caramel flavored peanut butter. I can't see, do 1014 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? But people want to. It's 1015 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 3: like sexual because I aren't on the motherfucking you know pumpkins. 1016 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 3: So yeah, they got to see the caramel. Yeah, all right, 1017 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 3: before we get out of here, Biko, can you can 1018 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 3: you hop on? All right? Hi? Biko? Hi hi ai 1019 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 3: our wonderful producer. Biko has recently moved with her daughter 1020 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 3: to Turkey because her husband is playing professional soccer there, 1021 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 3: which is probably the only reason that you could ever 1022 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 3: have seen yourself moving to Turkey, I would assume. But Ko, 1023 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 3: how has it been in Turkey for the last week? 1024 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 3: And can you tell us the story? Tell the listeners 1025 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 3: the story of taking a baby across world, cross globe. 1026 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 10: Yeah. 1027 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 11: I so, my daughter is twenty months and so a 1028 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 11: year and a half, and she she's just at that 1029 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 11: age where I mean, you guys know, like she's just wild, 1030 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 11: like all over the place, exploring new things, learning that 1031 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 11: she can throw things on the floor. It's so the 1032 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 11: last few weeks she's like hit that phase like majorly. 1033 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 11: So I was kind of nervous flying with her already 1034 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 11: have anxiety as viz. 1035 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 12: So I'm like, Okay, what can we do to prepare 1036 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 12: for this? I've flown with. 1037 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 11: Her a lot, but this is was my first international 1038 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 11: flight with her, so I was definitely prepared. I like 1039 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 11: did the whole Like I had a carry on backpack 1040 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 11: with like I brought like a roly luggage, and I 1041 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 11: put another carry on in the luggage so I could 1042 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 11: like pull that. 1043 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 12: And then I had her stroller, which if. 1044 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 11: You guys don't have the Duna, I definitely say Duna 1045 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 11: stroller is a fucking game changer. I've traveled with that 1046 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 11: with her. It's like one of those things that collapses 1047 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 11: and it goes into a car seat. When they're a team. Yeah, 1048 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 11: it's so worth it. But anyway, so I basically got 1049 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 11: on the flight. We were lucky enough to fly business, 1050 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 11: which I think my story would be very different if 1051 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 11: we had to fly economy. 1052 00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 12: Hats off to the. 1053 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 11: Parents do that on an international flight, because I could 1054 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 11: not imagine like not having space with a toddler. 1055 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the. 1056 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 10: Flight was crazy. 1057 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 12: We get there and I had five bags with. 1058 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 11: Me, so that in itself, you know, five large bags 1059 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 11: were moving here for a year and a half and 1060 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 11: uh that and then my carry ons and she was 1061 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,439 Speaker 11: actually pretty good. I feel like it's wild to say 1062 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 11: that this was the best she's ever been when I've 1063 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 11: flown with her. 1064 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 12: But I think because. 1065 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 11: We had like our own seat, and she had like 1066 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 11: headphones and I don't really let her watch her like 1067 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 11: iPad that much. So I was just like full on 1068 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 11: survival mode of like we had talked about this, you 1069 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 11: guys gave me advice of like throw the mom guilt 1070 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 11: parent gail out the window, and I like downloaded a bunch. 1071 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,919 Speaker 3: Of shows some days to get through bro for sure. 1072 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:53,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1073 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 11: And not only that, but like I looked up some 1074 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 11: toys that were like magnetic that wouldn't go everywhere. But 1075 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 11: of course, you know, our first flight was to Chicago, 1076 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 11: and of course we sat on the tarmac for an hour, 1077 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 11: and that one was just like the two and two plane, 1078 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 11: so it was really small airplane where the very first 1079 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 11: seat and thank god the guy next to us. This 1080 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 11: is what I also have to say about flying is 1081 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 11: most I've had a great experience. There's only been one 1082 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 11: person that has given me evil eyes when my daughter's 1083 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 11: been wild and. 1084 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 12: But yeah, but this guy next to me, my daughter 1085 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 12: did not want anything to do with me. 1086 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 11: So she's like crawling all like kind of like going 1087 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 11: up to him and like you know, like looking at them, 1088 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 11: kind of tapping him. 1089 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 12: And I'm like, please, like if she's bugging you, like 1090 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 12: just tell me. And he's like, no, no, no, it's okay. 1091 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 11: You know, which is weird to think about, because I 1092 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 11: feel like, as a parent, you're like, this is weird. 1093 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 11: I shouldn't let my child go to this stranger. But 1094 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 11: I was just kind of like, I don't know, you're 1095 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 11: sitting right next to me, like, you know. So, yeah, 1096 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 11: in our flight, our second flight, so we ended up 1097 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 11: sitting on that one. 1098 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 12: For an hour. And then we get to Chicago and 1099 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 12: they're pretty much like, oh, now you have to run. 1100 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 11: And I had to wait for my stroller and I 1101 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 11: don't know if you guys have ever like gate check 1102 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 11: strollers forever. 1103 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, they put it in. Yeah, you know what I mean. 1104 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's crazy. So they finally bring it up and 1105 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 12: they're like, you have to run that way. Take this bus. 1106 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 11: The bus is gonna take you to the other terminal 1107 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 11: that's terminal five. You have to get there, and then 1108 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 11: you're gonna have to run and you have ten minutes 1109 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 11: to get there, and I'm like, you've got to be 1110 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 11: fucking kidding me. So I'm like sprinting through the airport 1111 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 11: with her in the stroll. I'm like running with like 1112 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 11: my like luggage. 1113 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 3: And you're doing the home alone. You're just straight out. 1114 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 11: Oh my god. 1115 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 12: I also looks like an asshole. 1116 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 11: But and then I get to this this thing and 1117 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 11: the woman's being like, you need to get her out 1118 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 11: of the stroller. So then I have to figure out 1119 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 11: how to hold her, hold the stroller and hold the bag, 1120 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 11: walk down a bunch of stairs, I get on this bus. 1121 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 11: The bus is like outside waiting for these planes to 1122 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 11: take off, so we're just kind of sitting there, and 1123 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 11: then this guy helps me grab my bag because he's like, oh, 1124 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 11: you're going to Istanbul too, Like I'll go with you. 1125 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 11: I'll like carry your luggage for you. And then the 1126 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 11: plane left without us, so we had to stay the 1127 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 11: night in Chicago. Next morning, got on the flight to 1128 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 11: come here, and then when we got here, we had 1129 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 11: what was supposed to be a three hour drive, but 1130 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 11: it ended up being a five hour drive in an 1131 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 11: hour ferry. 1132 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 3: So it was a really long but. 1133 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 7: I'm really lucky she was. 1134 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 11: She was really good, and like we just came across 1135 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 11: people that were great with kids and all had kids. 1136 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 12: So if you could, like people would look at you 1137 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 12: and just kind of know and they just start playing 1138 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 12: with her with the toys in front of her, and yeah. 1139 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 11: I would just say, like I think the thing of 1140 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 11: about traveling I have to always remind myself is there 1141 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 11: are those people who have kids or have kids who 1142 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 11: are older and they you just have to ask for help. 1143 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 12: And I'm not good at asking for help. 1144 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 11: So it's like if you look at someone you're like, 1145 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 11: can you please get my suitcase from the top, it's 1146 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 11: going to follow me and holding my kid like. 1147 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 12: People are more than willing to do stuff like that. 1148 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 10: Yeah, And the one thing about Turkey I will say 1149 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 10: so far is like there's a major obsession with kids, 1150 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 10: Like they love kids here where if you're walking on 1151 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 10: the street, you never get this. 1152 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 12: In America. 1153 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 11: People like will want to come up to Ryan like 1154 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 11: like pinch her cheeks, like straight up, like come into 1155 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,959 Speaker 11: her face and be like, you know, like start talking 1156 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 11: to her, and I'm like hi, and then they realize 1157 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 11: I'm American. 1158 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 12: Because I still don't speak. 1159 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 11: But yeah, that's kind of the best thing so far 1160 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 11: is Yeah, people just like really love kids, So that's 1161 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 11: just a lot easier because yeah, I don't know, I 1162 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 11: tweeted the other day, like going to lunch or breakfast 1163 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 11: or anything with your toddler is just like an experience 1164 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 11: in itself. So it's nice that people are around and 1165 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 11: like stay high. 1166 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm glad you guys are settled in. I 1167 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 3: feel like you actually just touched on what we were 1168 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 3: talking about earlier, which is like when you view the 1169 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,240 Speaker 3: world primarily through social media, the algorithm is like juiced 1170 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 3: to show you people yelling at a mom about having 1171 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 3: a kid on a plane. But that's so few people 1172 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,280 Speaker 3: in the actual world. And yes, like we've traveled with kids, 1173 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,879 Speaker 3: Shargs travel with the kids solo when they were very young. 1174 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 3: I've done the same almost every person, even if they 1175 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 3: probably are someone who's like I hate kids, Like, there's 1176 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 3: so most people are so helpful and nice if you're 1177 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 3: like in a vulnerable situation, especially with your kids, and 1178 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,919 Speaker 3: there's just no algorithmic reason for social media to show 1179 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 3: you that data, you know what I mean. 1180 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, Yeah, that's like been the nicest thing is like 1181 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 11: I said to my daughters, Like, alrighty an extrovert. 1182 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 12: She just like literally is the girl. 1183 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 11: She's like in the front of the plane like high 1184 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 11: fiving literally everyone walking on or going. 1185 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 5: Like this, And I'm just like, oh my gosh, that's great, though. 1186 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 12: Looks at me if someone doesn't give her a high five. 1187 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 12: So so yeah, most people, most people are great, And so. 1188 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm giving you a child a high five should be 1189 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 3: a crime, you know what I mean, Like you should 1190 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 3: go to jail for not giving a child a high pot. 1191 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 3: That is so fucking weird. 1192 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 11: But like y'all were saying, if you're having a bad 1193 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 11: day when like a child being like hi, yeah, yeah, bro, 1194 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 11: Like what type. 1195 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 3: Of human are you? 1196 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, like the people on planes, like I remember 1197 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 4: like Sony's worst flight where we were like, oh my god, 1198 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 4: we finally made it, and they were like eight people 1199 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 4: that said y'all did great, Like you. 1200 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. 1201 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 4: She was that like even like when you're like, oh 1202 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 4: my god, you know we've been there, y'all handled it great. 1203 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 3: There's so many supportive people, so that one person that 1204 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 3: was weird. 1205 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 4: It's so such an anomaly, like you have to really 1206 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 4: be an asshole to look at somebody, you know, flying 1207 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 4: with a kid and like to give them like the 1208 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 4: evil lot. That's crazy, Like even as a single you 1209 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 1210 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 3: Person. 1211 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 4: Prior to this, I was like, you know, like, you know, 1212 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 4: there's this understanding, there's a social contract we have with 1213 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 4: people who are flying with kids. Bro, you know, don't 1214 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 4: be an asshole. It's already hard enough. And then breaking 1215 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,919 Speaker 4: that contract really fucked those type of people for sure. 1216 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1217 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 11: And the thing I remind myself to is most people now, 1218 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 11: which we're lucky about, are wearing headphones. So I'm like, 1219 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 11: most people are watching something or not really paying much attention, 1220 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 11: and the only person that's bugging is you and your kid. 1221 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 11: And I try to remind myself of that, like you're 1222 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 11: living in this moment, they're living in their own right. 1223 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 12: So I think that also helps me. 1224 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,760 Speaker 3: If you can't people can't afford noise canceling over your headphones, 1225 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 3: that's their fucking problem, you know what I mean. It's 1226 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 3: it's if you're broke, that's on you. You should have 1227 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 3: worked harder. You shouldn't. You shouldn't have spend so much 1228 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 3: money on starbar. She could have buy yourself some heads 1229 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 3: to block out the sound of my baby crying. 1230 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 4: You got on Jordans, but you can't afoord fucking noise 1231 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 4: cutch the headphones. 1232 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 3: Priorities the other thing too. 1233 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 1234 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 12: Flight attendants are generally really kids too. 1235 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean some of me got invited to the 1236 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 4: coalkpit a couple of times, you know what I mean, 1237 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 4: Like they really they're really helpful when it comes to that, 1238 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,959 Speaker 4: giving extra snacks and ship. 1239 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a man, kudos to you. I just 1240 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 3: don't know how you did that twenty four hours. 1241 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 4: And you know, kudos to baby riots too, like I 1242 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 4: mean for her to go through that too, like and 1243 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 4: be and do and be you know, do it, go 1244 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 4: through it and handle it the way she did. 1245 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, manie, Yes, babies are so much better at those 1246 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 3: kinds of experience though, because they have so little expectation 1247 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 3: of what reality is. It's just like, I guess this 1248 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 3: is what we're doing now, but like, you know, like 1249 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 3: not not crying. Lets me watch the iPad now, cool, 1250 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 3: let's do it show me crying and ship. So yeah, 1251 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 3: she didn't do that, that's dope. 1252 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 11: They have The prayer goes off, you know, I think 1253 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 11: like three or four times a day and right now 1254 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 11: we're staying in a hotel and the mosque. 1255 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 12: Is like right there. In the first few days, she's like, 1256 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 12: who is this yelling? You know, because it's on the 1257 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 12: speaker right next to her. Now she just sleeps. She 1258 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 12: sleeps right through it. 1259 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 11: And it's just funny because those are the things that 1260 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 11: you worry about, like this is a next twenty She's 1261 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 11: gonna wake up screaming and out. 1262 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 12: Like Dominique was telling me. He's like, oh, she slept 1263 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 12: through it. That's what I did too, But he's like, 1264 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 12: she's hell allowed, it's like right there. 1265 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 3: So how does that feel? 1266 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 4: Like, Like I think that'd be Like little things like 1267 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 4: that are like whoa, I'm really in a totally different world, 1268 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 4: you feel me. But I think those are the things 1269 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 4: that are really dope about traveling and experiencing different countries 1270 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 4: and like open your mind to different exits. 1271 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 3: This is you know, But anyway, how does that feel 1272 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 3: for you? 1273 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 4: Like to like little stuff like that, like the kids 1274 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 4: pincheck them being so like you know, loving of kids, 1275 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 4: and like you know, the mosque be next there and 1276 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 4: they're doing the Like how's that experience? 1277 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 3: That's that transition for you? 1278 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 1: I feel like, since I've only been here for a week, 1279 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm still kind of sitting in it to figure it 1280 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: out because I was thinking today to like here it's 1281 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 1: so like I don't think. 1282 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 12: I do still think twice. 1283 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 11: About people coming up and like talking to my daughter, 1284 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 11: but trying to figure out like how I would react 1285 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 11: in America if someone did that, like especially. 1286 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 4: Like what are you doing? 1287 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 12: And I'm still a little bit like that. 1288 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 11: But people, their energy, the energy I think is just 1289 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 11: really different here, like so far right, So yeah, I 1290 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 11: mean it's gonna be interesting. He has he has a 1291 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 11: game on Saturday that we might be going to, and 1292 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 11: I feel like that atmosphere is going to be really 1293 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 11: cause it's like I said soccer to someone the other 1294 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 11: day and I was like, oh shit, my bad. 1295 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 12: Like they looked like I had no idea what I 1296 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 12: was talking about, and I was like, oh football. 1297 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,919 Speaker 3: Sorry to John's point, I love traveling, and I would 1298 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 3: love the afternoon in the evening prayers, but the fager 1299 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 3: that's not for me. It's too early. It's too it's 1300 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 3: too early in the day for me to experience other cultures. 1301 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 3: You give me till eight a m. 1302 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 12: Please, Yeah, six SAMs a little early, a. 1303 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 3: Little early, all right, Vicoe. Well, thank you so much 1304 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 3: for telling us about your story. We're excited to have 1305 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 3: you out there and to hear more about it as 1306 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 3: you as you guys are settling into Turkey. And good 1307 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 3: luck with the game. And uh, that's all the time 1308 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 3: we got for today. We'll see everyone on Monday with 1309 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 3: our next regular episode. We'll see all that. Bye. 1310 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: The volume