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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the week seventeen Action Network Podcast, presented.

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Speaker 1: By Fan Duel.

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Speaker 3: Today we've got our player projections for week seventeen. I'm

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Speaker 3: your host, Chris Raybon, joining me as always one of

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Speaker 3: the top fantasy rankers in the game.

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Speaker 1: Sean Kerner, Sean, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 4: I hope you had a happy holiday, and hope you're

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Speaker 4: enjoying the cold back back East right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not enjoying code. It's been pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: But did have a good holiday, and hope everyone out

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Speaker 3: there listening had the same. Today we're gonna, of course,

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Speaker 3: jump into our top five of each position. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: some guys are high and low on and we'll throw

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Speaker 3: out some props. So let's get right into it. Who

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Speaker 3: are your top five quarterbacks for week seventeen?

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Speaker 4: So I got Josh Allen, Patrick Maholmes. I have Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts number three right now assuming he returns, and then

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields and Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 3: I got Allen Mahomes, Fields Burrow and Kirk Cousins number five.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: Nice all right? Who are you hi on?

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Speaker 4: High on Aaron Rodgers in that Kirk Cousins game. He's

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Speaker 4: my QB nine to open the week. And as we saw,

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones came through for us last week with a

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Speaker 4: big game against the Vikings defense. They have now allowed

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Speaker 4: three hundred or more passing yards in eight to the

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Speaker 4: lost ten games. Rogers, of course, he has yet to

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Speaker 4: you know, finish closer to the ceiling at least, and

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Speaker 4: Greevy hit right now they have the third highest team

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Speaker 4: total of the week, So this is mainly just his

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Speaker 4: upside of getting you know, two or more passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: This rank also does depend if Christian Watson is able

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Speaker 4: I'll probably bump Rogers down a bit. So this is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that Vikings defense does not say good. I am

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Speaker 3: high on Cousins. As I mentioned, I have ETHRQB seven.

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Speaker 3: I like him at the top five quarterback this week.

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Speaker 3: You look at his past three games thrown at least

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Speaker 3: he's thrown four to twenty five. Then he went for

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Speaker 3: last week. So this Vikings team is throwing. I think

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Speaker 3: passes right right to Green Bay. But they're week on

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Speaker 1: What should be a pretty high scoring game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and man, getting TJ Hawkinson mid season tray was

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Speaker 4: just massive. He is such a beast. So I mean

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Speaker 4: just him being there raises Cousins four and sealing massively.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, who are you low on?

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Speaker 4: I'm low on our boy Gino smith Man. You know

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Speaker 2: So let's go with Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: high you haven't projected right now? I have his passing

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Speaker 2: What's our record on props? How do we do? Last week?

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Speaker 1: You went to and zero and I went one on one?

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Speaker 4: So I'm high on Tyler Algier this week. You know

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Speaker 4: Last week he took over as the Falcons lead back.

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Speaker 4: They already know what they have in Cordella Patterson. He's

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Speaker 4: like Algier this week as sort of a low end

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Speaker 4: like this week with Mike White back, I don't think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I really like that.

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Speaker 3: Algier Cole that's the guy I had written down as well.

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Speaker 3: You know, fifty nine percent of the snaps last week

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Speaker 4: I am low on Derrick Henry, actually King Henry. He's

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Speaker 4: the Titans have nothing to play for this week. It's

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Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if he's limited here and we see

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Speaker 4: but he's my RB forty three. And I hinted last

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Speaker 4: last week, he saw thirty six percent routes run rate

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Speaker 4: So this just isn't a really, this isn't a good

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Speaker 1: And you know, top ten that's still pretty high.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense. Still want to risk a guy

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Speaker 2: More carries or even Malik Davis. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think Pollard still has the upside, but

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Speaker 3: You know he as you mentioned, you know, he kind

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I have fifty four. I think since

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Speaker 3: to be interesting this week. All right, let's jump to

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Speaker 4: He's my wide receiver forty four, and he and everyone

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Speaker 4: You know, he's probably more of a DFS play, to

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Speaker 4: But you know, with Nico Collins out, it's really just

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Speaker 4: I thought he just quit on the team for this season.

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Speaker 2: He is that good.

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Speaker 4: And the Jaguars is always a pretty good matchup. You know,

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Speaker 4: I just think Cooks and more kind of sneaky and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like that Corey Davis call as well.

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Speaker 3: on He's the easer wide receiver seventeen. I think he

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Speaker 1: All right, who are you low on?

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Speaker 4: I'm low and out of a feeling my wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't scored a touchdown since Week four, Yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: With with with heinike they were winning a lot more games,

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Speaker 2: How the MDIA have fallen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I got Kelsey, Hockinson, Kittle, Andrews Ingram. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: both same top five. Probably probably end up switching it.

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Speaker 3: I mean I can dropping, you can end up dropping even.

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Speaker 1: Outside the top five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just based on recent play, at least every Ingram

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Speaker 4: looks like just a beast, right now, So that's why

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Speaker 4: he's snack over. But yeah, it's been brutal for Mark

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Speaker 4: Andrews since like what week four or week six or something.

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Speaker 1: Man, all right, who you I on?

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Speaker 4: So Tyler Higbee he's my tight end nine. He came

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Speaker 4: back to life last week. You know, the Rams went

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Speaker 4: away from heavy eleven personnel. I don't I don't know

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Speaker 4: if that was more do the blowout or just due

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Speaker 4: to all the wide receiver injuries, but it was certainly

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Speaker 4: nice to see for Higbee. He went off for nine

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Speaker 4: catches and ninety four yards and two touchdowns, had a

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Speaker 4: seventy to nine percent routes run rate probably would have

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Speaker 4: been higher if it weren't for the blowout.

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Speaker 2: So like his upside this week.

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Speaker 4: He's seen a thirty eight percent target per reut run

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Speaker 4: rate the past two weeks, so he clearly has good

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Speaker 4: chemistry with Baker Mayfield. So against the charges this week,

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Speaker 4: I think he's back inside, you know, being a top

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Speaker 4: ten option.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Higbee finally, I mean the broncos man, it just

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Speaker 3: keeps getting harder and worse.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if now that they actually fired Hacket, if

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Speaker 4: they you know, rally this week or something. But that

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Speaker 4: was just one of the biggest enplosures I've ever seen

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Speaker 4: for a team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny, Yeah, because I was.

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Speaker 3: I think they were my money wine dog pick on

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Speaker 3: the on the action priv with Stucky and he's been

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Speaker 3: so hot on these money line dogs. I think he

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Speaker 3: hit like nine on the season and he's like, no, man,

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Speaker 3: there's no way to Broncos blowing against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I'm like it.

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Speaker 3: I've seen this happen over and over, especially with Russ

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Speaker 3: Back and of course.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, akers Higbee, they balled out.

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Speaker 3: I am high on on Evan Ingram just mentioned him,

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Speaker 3: but I think this Houston matchup is great for him.

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Speaker 3: You know, indoors Houston number twenty two and DVOA on

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Speaker 3: defense against tight ends and ust to know, it's a

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Speaker 3: lot of the fewest targets per game to wide receivers,

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Speaker 3: so there's something of a you know, a tight end

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Speaker 3: running back funnel kind of defense that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: They play a lot of his own coverage, that's what you

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Speaker 1: usually see.

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Speaker 3: You have to check it down a little bit more,

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Speaker 3: hit some of the underneath stuff. So Evan Ingram's been

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Speaker 3: balling thirty three targets, twenty six catches, three hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty seven yards and two scores over his last three

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Speaker 3: games alone, so.

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Speaker 1: I think he has to keep it up. I think

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Speaker 1: he keeps it up at this point.

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Speaker 3: So love Ingram this week as the top five guy

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Speaker 3: who you won one.

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Speaker 4: Darren Waller he's my tight end sixteen against the Niners.

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Speaker 4: And you know, he did have a good game. He

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Speaker 4: managed to go four for fifty eight in the rain,

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Speaker 4: sleep Colt ever what was going on in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: But he only had.

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Speaker 4: A forty nine percent routes run rate, and so that's

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Speaker 4: gonna be tough for him to maintain this type of

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Speaker 4: production with that kind of usage. And DeVante, you know,

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Speaker 4: only caught two passes for fifteen yards. So have to

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Speaker 4: figure he's gonna break out as soon as this week obviously,

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Speaker 4: and that's gonna come at someone like Waller's expense. Plus,

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Speaker 4: this is a brutal matchup against tight ends. The forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers ranked fifth in DVA against tight end. So

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Speaker 4: I think if you have Waller and there's there's no

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Speaker 4: better option, you're like streaming, you stick with him. But

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Speaker 4: either way, I think you just need to lower your expectations.

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Speaker 4: So he's my tight end sixteen.

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt tough matchup.

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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 1: Ye I'm all on Juan Johnson.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I say this every week, but when

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Speaker 3: this guy doesn't catch a touchdown, I don't think he

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Speaker 3: should be on that like you know, tight end one

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Speaker 3: two fringe. I think he should be like it's turt

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Speaker 3: like a clear tight end too, because sixty he only

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Speaker 3: runs a route about two thirds at the time. He's

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Speaker 3: averaging two point six catches a game, but he's cought

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Speaker 3: a touchdown on nineteen percent of those catches. So when

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Speaker 3: you don't get a touchdown, which is like eight you know,

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Speaker 3: there's most of most of his games he's not getting

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Speaker 3: a touchdown, or at least you wouldn't expect him to.

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Speaker 3: He has gotten a touchdown in quite a few, but

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Speaker 3: you know, just based on his usage, you would expect

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Speaker 3: a touchdown you know, twenty to forty percent of the time,

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Speaker 3: and he's just not doing that, you know, in this matchup,

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Speaker 3: I don't think the touchdown projection is that high.

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Speaker 1: So got to go low on Juwan this week.

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Speaker 3: Just just not enough usage from week to week here

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Speaker 3: to justify putting him up, you know, close to the

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Speaker 3: top fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree, with that, and as always, he's

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Speaker 4: a touchdown er bus guy. But the tight end streamer

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Speaker 4: pool this week is really bad and he's actually one

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Speaker 4: of the top options, so in those cases at least

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Speaker 4: you know he does get the touchdowns occasionally. But if

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Speaker 4: you look at the waver warres, it's a brutal week

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Speaker 4: for streaming tight end. So that's why he's probably going

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Speaker 4: to be a popular ad this week, but certainly he

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be inside the top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Being a popular ad. Let's go with Tyler Higbee. Yes

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Speaker 1: for the prop. Let's go receiving yards. Let's go forty

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Speaker 1: two and a half.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I have it at forty one. So that's

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Speaker 4: that's a good line. And that's with like five catches,

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Speaker 4: So I'll go out the under. But I do think

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Speaker 4: that's a good line, just that you know, you have

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Speaker 4: such a low a dot sometimes you can catch five

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Speaker 4: or six balls and still be held under that.

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Speaker 2: So I'll go under here.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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