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Speaker 1: Now, the Shotguns Starting Golf is full of mathematics. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of setup work that we have to do

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Speaker 1: in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a

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Speaker 2: Go alright, alright, alright, did no man.

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Speaker 3: Dart Your.

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Speaker 4: Greetings are welcome to a Saturday edition of The Shotgun Start.

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Speaker 4: It is July eighteenth, Andy, how we doing.

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Speaker 2: Brendan, I'm doing fantastic. I gotta say I.

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Speaker 3: Regret.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just never going to take a day

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Speaker 2: off of major again. I couldn't believe, you know, lightly

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Speaker 2: following it while I was at an event and uh

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't believe I'm missing this.

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Speaker 4: In your defense, like taking a day off is kind

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Speaker 4: of a it's it makes it sound worse than it was.

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Speaker 4: You you were doing something for a friend and family.

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Speaker 4: Bever like you were, you were doing something. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: like you were out, you know, strolling all on the beach. Tough,

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Speaker 4: tough one to miss. I mean, probably would have been

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Speaker 4: better for you if it was just Jackson Jackson, Super

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Speaker 4: Lucas Herbert, you know, storming away with it nothing happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's this great story, I think Kivy details of when

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Speaker 4: when Tiger at the Flagstick and thirteen Washington Post columnists

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Speaker 4: at the time went to play golf Saturday morning at Augusta.

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Speaker 3: Which is like a sneaky.

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Speaker 4: Little window you can if you're gonna play, you can

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Speaker 3: The the drop, the drop stuff blew up.

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Speaker 4: So it's like always the time when you get like

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Speaker 4: And I think I talked to Gabby Herzig of New

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Speaker 4: York Times. You know, for me, that Tiger Saturday morning

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Speaker 4: Friday night, uh debate over should it be d keyed

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Speaker 4: was as chaotic and newsy as golf gets outside of

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Speaker 3: Last night I think was up there though.

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Speaker 4: It's like in that in that orbit with the Scotty thing,

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Speaker 4: and uh, what did you think as it was happening.

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Speaker 4: Not to go too detailed into what happened, but what

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Speaker 4: what was your perspective?

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, my perspective on this situation is I

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Speaker 2: And somebody's gonna send screenshots to me that say, look,

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Speaker 2: it's not any different.

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Speaker 3: You watch that.

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Speaker 2: Anybody that's played golf at a highly competitive level knows

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Speaker 2: said it out loud, which is you know, vitual reaction

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Speaker 3: On the flip side of it.

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Speaker 2: I find it strange interesting that this was penalized given

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Speaker 3: Bryson was doing the same thing. He was trying to

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 3: It was as clear as day what he was trying

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Speaker 2: And I think I think I've just shocked that they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a little bit of blowback last night

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Speaker 4: that's probably a good thing. Will it have its effect

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Speaker 4: non RNA adjudicated events. No, that's part of the problem

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Speaker 3: It wasn't long ago.

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Speaker 4: Where Like when you go into a hazard like Bryson

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Speaker 4: I think the this is a little bit of Rory's

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Speaker 2: I think that drops how basically nobody drops anymore. They

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Speaker 3: They should do this.

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Speaker 2: They should use the advantage rules to their advantage as

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Speaker 2: You know Bryce is doing. You know, Bryson probably took

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Speaker 3: People take it with the way you step behind that ball.

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Speaker 2: That being said, I think that everybody's using the advantage

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Speaker 3: They need to gain all the advantage they can. They shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: They shouldn't because it's against the rules. But if the

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Speaker 2: be like, hey, you know, we set the speed limit

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: The thing about the RNA is they have done this.

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Speaker 3: They identify things going on in the game that are wrong.

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Speaker 2: A couple of years ago they brought the CT machine out,

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Speaker 2: rules of golf are aren't being enforced by the PGA Tour,

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Speaker 2: and that that is the big problem here. The big

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Speaker 2: problem is that the leading golf professional golf organization disrespects

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was still a bit shocking that they went

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Speaker 4: at Bryson, and that's where you know it was just

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Speaker 4: KDB tweeted it through through our episode. You know last

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Speaker 4: night we shared a lot of that. It sounds like

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Speaker 4: and Murray notes that Bryson was lasting in an animated

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Speaker 4: conversation with the RNA Chief Executive Mark Darbin and their

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Speaker 4: tournament offices. I just walked right by those on our

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Speaker 4: looking quite comfortable. Thisg has crossed, the smile on his face.

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Speaker 4: They're very accessible. It's all kind of right there, and

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Speaker 4: we'll see maybe he's going at them. Bryson pretty admirable,

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Speaker 4: surprising under par round given the way it was going

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Speaker 4: one under sixty nine. He's not where he was obviously

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Speaker 4: he could be eight, could be two if not if

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Speaker 4: the penalty was not called. I think, you know, it's fine.

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Speaker 4: I'm good with it. I'm good with the penalty being called.

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Speaker 4: I was just really shocked that this was the one

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Speaker 4: it changes something a little bit. I tell you, it's

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Speaker 4: not a great look for Wyndham in the USGA when

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Speaker 4: we had a very similar appearing situation, maybe even more

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Speaker 4: egregiously on video, more like more.

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Speaker 3: Definitive on videos.

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Speaker 4: What I would say there were there was we didn't

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Speaker 4: know precisely where Bryson's ball was.

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Speaker 3: We knew enough that he was and he was muddling

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Speaker 4: It went off alarm bells. Rory's like we were in

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Speaker 4: the tournament or the player's lounge or whatever, and like

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Speaker 4: we all whoever he was with started looking at EA

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Speaker 4: show like that looked sketchy or that I don't want

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Speaker 3: It wasn't sketchy. They thought it was something.

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Speaker 2: Should we I mean, should we give the full Rory

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Speaker 4: He's off probably two hours before Bryce and went around

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Speaker 4: I won't pretend to be up here and defend Bryson.

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Speaker 4: I'm not particularly fond of him. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: Very aware that that the feelings are mutual from from

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Speaker 3: It's mutual. We're very mutual.

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Speaker 2: And then they had to go back out and look

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Speaker 4: And also round two was not done, so play goes

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 4: Scores weren't getting turned in in like a timely. There

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Speaker 4: So now you don't know what the final scores are.

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Speaker 4: You don't have entered scores, you don't have a T sheet,

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Speaker 4: It end up step or nine pen still get some sleep,

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Speaker 4: What do we have updated with with what's going on

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Speaker 4: with Bryson Tonight with with You? Is there anything further?

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Speaker 4: After confronting Mark Darman, Darth.

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Speaker 5: You and Ewan said, it's understood that he went in

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Speaker 3: That's the latest we have. I wonder if he's going

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Speaker 5: That's I was saying, maybe a YouTube giveaway or some

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Speaker 3: Is that bad that that's the first thing that comes

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Speaker 4: Maxhomma defends him. He said, it's not in his character.

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Speaker 4: That's not in Bryson's character.

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Speaker 3: I just want to, you know, give a full kind

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Speaker 4: I'm not wanting to be able to decide unfair because

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Speaker 4: hard to tell if it improves anything. All I know

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Speaker 4: is I've known Bryson for a very long time. Is

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Speaker 4: never cheat the game of golf. That's a really definitive statement,

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Speaker 4: how it happened. It's not that the R and I

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Speaker 4: professional golfer. Feels like it's written inherently to protect against

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Speaker 2: I don't think that Bryson's a cheater. I think this

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Speaker 3: He did the same thing intentionally. It was so clear

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Speaker 2: But anyways, I think what's happened is that players have

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Speaker 3: Xander, just dad. It's a tough one.

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Speaker 4: Who knows it's tough about to be when you're in

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Speaker 3: A tricky thing.

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Speaker 4: It's not something we're used to doing that often. You imagine,

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Speaker 3: Did you watch him walk around his ball on the

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Speaker 4: No, I was walking out to beat him on the

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Speaker 3: If you're not you're lie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just say how that's how people walk

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Speaker 3: If you're concerned about not improving your lie.

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Speaker 4: I you have to wonder if, like if not everybody

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that they will be happy to speak

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Speaker 3: Like you careful about a single day that you play golf.

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Speaker 3: When you go into hazard, you cannot be just you've.

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Speaker 2: Done the hitting the entire life, thirty years or twenty

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Speaker 3: Be like saying I don't know how to turn on

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Speaker 2: Equipment, which I don't know how to sometimes, but that's

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Speaker 2: It is what it is. He got He got stroke

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Speaker 3: Was a great round he played today. He didn't have

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Speaker 2: He kind of like Bryson's style play though, is like

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Speaker 3: When you hit it as hard as him.

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Speaker 2: And the reality is he has such great control, but

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Speaker 2: He gets he he's so gritty. I like, I think

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Speaker 2: I have like a lot of opinions about Bryson as

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Speaker 2: all of which we have. Like every person on this

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Speaker 2: to watch him grind out around like.

442
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: He did today. I would agree with you.

443
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 4: I could not believe I thought we were just I

444
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 4: was just going to be writing about Sam Burns essentially,

445
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 4: or covering talking about Sam Burns by you know, aside

446
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 4: from the drop gate or the penalty gate. I should say,

447
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that he came in under par It

448
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 4: was just kind of receipting. He's just kind of languishing

449
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 4: around even seventy five under four under uh putted decently

450
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: on the day, but didn't seem like he putted when

451
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: he needed that needed it, and like you said, didn't

452
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 4: have full control. He just didn't And and you know,

453
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 4: some of that strives that just don't cover and the

454
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: way he needs them to. But a lot of them

455
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 4: he wasn't great on approach today. He was a little

456
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 4: sloppy even when he put himself in good position off

457
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 4: the tee. Yeah, you're right, like control, it just didn't

458
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 4: seem to be in full control.

459
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't think he I just think that's like kind

460
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: of an optical illusion with Bryson how he is. You're

461
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 2: never gonna like he doesn't play with the technical precision

462
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: of a Scottie Scotty. Sure, he's not gonna look as is.

463
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: It's not gonna look as as clean and beautiful as

464
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 2: Rory full flight, but the talent is undeniable, and you

465
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: know what, he's locked in. I think he's so locked

466
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 2: in on this. It's interesting. Like, you know, we made

467
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: fun of his approach to the week with the YouTube videos.

468
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: He was ready to go, you know. I he is

469
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: just a content.

470
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 2: Machine and the sport is so much more interesting when

471
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: he's in the mix.

472
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: He sort of cracked the code a little bit at

473
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: the Open. Now it has been a fairly windless open

474
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: and port Rush didn't necessarily have you know, vicious winds either.

475
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: They did at Shinnecock. Uh so, maybe it's more of

476
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: a wind issue than a links golf issue. For Bryson,

477
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: you mentioned.

478
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: Rory looking beautiful and clean and Scotty having full control.

479
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what has full control looks clean and

480
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 4: beautiful as the Mercedes Benz suv and from compact to powerhouse.

481
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: Mercedes Benz offers a variety of SUVs with flowing lines,

482
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 4: precise edges, and expertly balancing elegance and aerodynamics. They have

483
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: intuitive MBUXAI learning capabilities that recognize your habits and driving

484
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,600
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485
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 4: were on the road this morning in our Mercedes rental

486
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 4: from London Heatthrow had the MBUX going for KVV. After

487
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: driving around all week. You know whether it's the speed control,

488
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: the lane shift assist, all that. Kevin's driver profile is

489
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 4: getting up to speed after a week with the Burmister

490
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 4: three D surround system going and you can experience the power,

491
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492
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493
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Speaker 4: an official patron of the Open Championship and a supporter

494
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 4: of our work this week.

495
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: Hey, BP pick, thanks for you to parlay us right

496
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: into our first storyline that nobody's talking about.

497
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: What's that?

498
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's gonna talk about perseverance with Bryson fighting

499
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: through this penalty, staying in the fight, being in the

500
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: mix to win a major. How about Ludwig, Ludwig Mercedes

501
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: Benz Ambassador, He's usually at a comfort advantage every week,

502
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: he usually drives, you know, he's got the the mbux

503
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: Ai technology helping him drive more safely, more comfortably to

504
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: the course. Everybody's got it this week, and Ludwig is

505
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: still in the mix, content in contention, real chance to

506
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: win his first major championship. And I just I just

507
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: think it needs a round plause. The perseverance to uh

508
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: to be playing, you know, relative at a relative disadvantage

509
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: because everybody gets his usual advantage of the Mercedes Benz automobiles.

510
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: I love that.

511
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 4: I love that he's on more of an e been

512
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 4: even footing this week. He shouted three under sixty seventy

513
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 4: six under for the championship. So we've mentioned Ludwig at six,

514
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 4: under mentioned Bryson at six under. Where are we going

515
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 4: with contender pretender? Do we want to do Andy's real

516
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: and or fake leaving.

517
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: I want some observation to the ground.

518
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: Before we got from the ground, you watched the Burns

519
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Bryson group.

520
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit about what it was like

521
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: out there. kV V and I decided to split off.

522
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: KVV went and did Fleetwood duty, which looked like it

523
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 4: was going to be the fairy tale story book. Sunday

524
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 4: still can be kind of give you away coming in

525
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: talk to talk to a member and a few other

526
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: fans are a fire up about that.

527
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: So he went to Fleewood. I went to Bryson.

528
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: Burns felt like the obvious story, given last night's performative

529
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: stuff and the penalty, and then Burns, you know, being

530
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: one of the best Major championship performers all year, contending

531
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 4: at the Masters, contending at Shinnecock, and then again, despite

532
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: being not a fan of Links golf, going out to

533
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: see Burns, who's our fifty four hole leader by two?

534
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: It was an interesting atmosphere. I would say the English

535
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: crowds or the open crowds were generally on the side

536
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: of Bryson.

537
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: He used it.

538
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: He was, you know, he nearly drove the green at

539
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: nine and then walked off and did double guns, put

540
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: both fists up and flexed as he's walking off the

541
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 4: tea box like we're at bay Hill or something like.

542
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: He was just doing a lot of antics. There was

543
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: one Marshall said at one point a few scousers, who

544
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: are just the locals this region, Liverpool region of England.

545
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: A few Scousers said, come on, Bryson, sheeting bastard. But

546
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: other than that, it was more or less just the

547
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: entire there was nobody left to watch Jackson, super and

548
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: Lucas Herbert. Everybody went to them. Camyon fell off behind him.

549
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: It was it was it was an electric atmosphere and

550
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 4: it got rowdy at times, and Bryson fed into that.

551
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: I think he loved being.

552
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: Like starting from last night, well you know, even before

553
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: the penalty game, he loved being in the hunt and

554
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 4: loved being the spectacle, and so he was kind of

555
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: playing in the crowd throughout the trip around. I'd say,

556
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: like one there were there were several, I mean several

557
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: shots stuck out to me. Both of their shots into fifteen.

558
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: Bryson shot into fifteen. I think, like we said, the

559
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: wind has been kicking up, you know, wind has been

560
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: somewhat limited, but it kicked up there kind of hit

561
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: low low bullets, low rockets into fifteen really soft soft

562
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: landing in the front pine. I think the downwind issue

563
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: like will continue to be the biggest challenge. I thought

564
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: Sam Burns is like biggest slip up of the day

565
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: was sending one over the green at nine, super tricky.

566
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: It was whipping down wind there. Bryson didn't have that

567
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: issue because he essentially drove it to the front of

568
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: the green, still made a par couldn't get up and

569
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 4: down for three. That for me was the one time

570
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: where Burns looked a little shaky. But that's the challenge

571
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: like that, I he's demanding, you know.

572
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you probably still weren't, you might

573
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: not have still been out there that yeah, with like

574
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: four iron six iron. I hated the mentality on seventeen.

575
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: The thing about Sam, Sergeant Sam really you know, he's

576
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: he's ascending up the ranks. But the thing about Sam,

577
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: his iron play in majors has just been incredible. The

578
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: iron play today was outstanding, I thought, And you know,

579
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: that was the thing that stuck with me from Shittacock

580
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: and I feel like we saw earlier in the year.

581
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: He's just taken it a whole step to I.

582
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: Feel like a different each line of player than he

583
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: has been in past, And a lot of people are

584
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: going to look and say like he's folded before he

585
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: shot an eighty.

586
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: Obviously at Troon.

587
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: He's had some bad Sundays and he had bad Sunday

588
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: at Augusta. He's had some bad Sundays and Majors. But

589
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: I just think he's a different player than he was before.

590
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.

591
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: He's unquestionably the favorite going to Sunday, just based on

592
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: where he is in the leaderboard and based on how

593
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: he's performed at the at the Majors.

594
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 3: Kind of feels, you know.

595
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: You know, there was this concern that, you know, the

596
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: leaderboard stinks, didn't have any major winners, and one Burkedale

597
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: person remarked to me, it's like, oh, we would be

598
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: in line with the Burkedale lidiage that one of the

599
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: best players in the world at the time and Sam

600
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: Burns would win this open.

601
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: Shit. So there's different ways you could spend it.

602
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: No major winners on the board or Birkdale would argue

603
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: top player in the world winning at the top I.

604
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: Would say Uh ce wu Kims one of players, So

605
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: that doesn't count. That doesn't count. Can can we get

606
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 3: to another storyline?

607
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: Uh?

608
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: Nobody's talking about Please?

609
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: Sam Burns on the campaign trail feels like started. Sam

610
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: is might be plotting a run for district attorney, an

611
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: attempt to overtake the sheriff as the head of law enforcement.

612
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: You think he's going to overthrow the sheriff. I would

613
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: love to hear more about Scotty's day on television and

614
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 4: how I love.

615
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: That Burns has started the week by saying I hate

616
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: links golf because of bad bounces, unfair bounces, and now

617
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: finds himself two shots in the lead. It's just like

618
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: it's always that thing of oh if there, if somebody's

619
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: complaining about this, you could just write him off the

620
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: leader yees, just cross them off the leaderboard. It's the antithesis.

621
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: It's a performance that's fucking what usually happens. If somebody

622
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: usually complains about Links golf, you're just like, okay, I'm

623
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: gonna cross them off by board. Sam Burn's just bucking

624
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: golf treads this week, bucking on the trail perspective of

625
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: you know, the birth of his sexon just having a kid.

626
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: It's just cool.

627
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: That will be a cool story if that happens comes

628
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 4: Sunday night.

629
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: How is Scotty's day? You watched a little bit of

630
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: that TV scott Oh.

631
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: My god, I mean it honestly was It was shades

632
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: of like twenty two when he just got nothing out

633
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: of the putter and then you just saw it eventually

634
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: like wear into his game.

635
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he hit it so good.

636
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: I was thinking about like and again I go to like,

637
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: how just aesthetically their games look but Bright shoots one

638
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: under Scotty shoots even from tee to green. Scottie outplayed

639
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: I think everybody in the field today. I don't know.

640
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at any stats. I'm sure there's some

641
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: stats to the back that up he was. He was

642
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: so damn good. He had looks all day he hit

643
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 2: like the thing that killed that I think killed Scotty's

644
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: round is is the He had so many great looks

645
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: that just didn't go in, Like great putts too, where

646
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: he hit it like it just hard, lipouts, burning edges

647
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: had He had a one plut that you know it

648
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: hopped along the way ends up a revolution short. So

649
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: just a tough luck day. I think it might have

650
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: just really like one shot too far out of the

651
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: too far back. It's that, you know, he had the

652
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 2: short miss on sixteen, you know, just just really bad

653
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: putt there on sixteen. And I feel like if he

654
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: was at five, you'd feel really good because the putts

655
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: have to go in eventually.

656
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, a frustrating feels like a frustrating week for Scottie

657
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 4: in a way that I'm playing good or I'm striking

658
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 4: it well, and.

659
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: Micro cosm though his of his whole year. You know,

660
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: I thought like that, you know, he's hitting it so

661
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: good all day. You know, he hits it in a

662
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: bunker on fifteen or fourteen, you know, one of the

663
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: real scoring opportunities. And I think at this point with

664
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: ways Scotty's putter's going this week, he's looking at like

665
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: I have to take advantage of five. I have to

666
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: take advantage of these par fives. And in terms of

667
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: fifteen or fourteen, he hits it in the in a bunker,

668
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: has to kind of.

669
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: Splash it out.

670
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: He has one sixty five in and all said, he

671
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: does make berdie like you know, it's like everything gets

672
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: harder when you're puttering and that's the difference of the

673
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: last like the last couple of years in particular, like

674
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: when you think about Port Rush, he's traditionally not putted

675
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: really well at the Open. The Open has given him

676
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: troubles and I and at Port Rush he putted so

677
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: beautifully that week and he blew the doors off the field.

678
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: The Open is always going to be a ball strikers tournament,

679
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: and this is a ball strikers tournament. He's he's out,

680
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: he's outplaying everybody, t degree everyone. He's just the worst

681
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: putter in the field, maybe maybe the worst, maybe one

682
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: of the five worst putters in the field this week.

683
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: It's a little sort of the reverse of of some

684
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: of the Bryson stuff you're talking about, Like you're not

685
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: surprised he shot sixty nine. It just doesn't it doesn't

686
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: always look like it's gonna be that at the end.

687
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: And Scotty's like you watch it and it's like, oh,

688
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 4: you know, another even or that was a one under

689
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 4: sixty nine felt like it should have been sixty five.

690
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: That's what the weeks felt like. Scotty Verse six.

691
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: When Scotty's putter is put the way it is right now,

692
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: it routinely like, yeah, what you said about Bryson. Bryson,

693
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna like this comparison. Bryce's has got a lot

694
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 2: of like speifism in his game.

695
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: He's like a souped up.

696
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: Speef frankly, where like it goes he hits it really far,

697
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: but it's like junkie, look the way it gets in

698
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: the hole. But you look at the end of a round,

699
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I guess he did shoot that. Scotty

700
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 2: is like the complete opposite, where it's like, I don't

701
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 2: know how he could have shot more than he shot today,

702
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: Like I don't know how he could.

703
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: Have shot worse than even part of today.

704
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: And I think, like frankly, like a lot of people,

705
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: if you took like a lot of like good midams

706
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: and just let them putt for.

707
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: Them, come on, oh, come on, God, he has so

708
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: many dead red looks. He's worked with Phil Kenyon, they'll

709
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 3: get it right. I mean, he's still like, analytically like

710
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: a top twenty putter.

711
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: I think the difference between Scotty this year and last

712
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: and this is why I'm not like a huge Strokes

713
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: game guy, because they don't they haven't gotten to the

714
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: level they need to get but I'd be fascinated to

715
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: look at like Scotty's strokes game putting on Sundays or

716
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: on Saturdays and Sundays or in majors, just doesn't feel

717
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: like he's the same putter as he was last year.

718
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: And when it actually like really matters, he misses short putts.

719
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: He just doesn't. He doesn't look as confident over the

720
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: golf ball.

721
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: I'd love, you know, I'd love somebody to ask Scotty, like,

722
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: what does it feel like when you're hitting putts on

723
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: weeks like this, because it seems like it just is

724
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: frustrating the crap out of.

725
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: Him, Like it's it's just a sense of unease as

726
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: soon as he stands over or or Yeah, it's.

727
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: Not like he has a yips or anything. No, right,

728
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: I think, yes, it just like it kind of feel hopeless.

729
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kevin to the studio. Yeah, let's bring

730
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: him in. Let's bring in KVV. We talked about Bryson.

731
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: He was obviously on the scene there a lot yesterday. KVV.

732
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: Who did you follow? What are your reactions from the

733
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: day today? You were with Tommy for a little.

734
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 7: Bit, Yeah, I was with Tommy for a lot of

735
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 7: the day.

736
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 6: I would say I kind of juggled a little bit

737
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 6: between asking players for their reaction on the Bryce and

738
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 6: stuff and then dipping back out to see Tommy for scenes.

739
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 7: The scenes were awesome.

740
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 6: I mean, I think Brendan it reminded me a little

741
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 6: bit of Port Rush when you follow Rory around on Saturday,

742
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 6: just this like collective will of the people, like trying

743
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 6: so hard to you know, imbibe the imbue what's the

744
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 6: right word, like inject energy into Tommy and make him

745
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 6: feel like he's worthy of this moment. And I thought

746
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 6: Rory had a really interesting thing. They said later He's like,

747
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 6: man that that support is so great, and also it's

748
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 6: like can be a burden because you feel like you're

749
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 6: trying to have to do it for those people. And

750
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 6: I think, you know, some of that maybe got to

751
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 6: Tommy a little bit. Just I mean, it was a

752
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 6: huge reception on eighteen. And then he makes like a

753
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 6: super disappointing Boge, not a good third shot in there

754
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 6: that went way left and hit just a pretty mediocre

755
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 6: put and kind of was lucky to save Bogey. He

756
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 6: talked for a long time after the round just about

757
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 6: like how much it meant to him how much he

758
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 6: sort of loves the open, how much you know it's

759
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 6: but almost like how much it's out of his hands now,

760
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 6: Like he knows he can shoot the best round possible

761
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 6: tomorrow and he still needs a bunch of help.

762
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 7: I don't know.

763
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 6: I think like Tommy is like truly one of the

764
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 6: nicest people in sports that I've ever kind of been around.

765
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 6: And everyone will tell you that it sometimes makes me

766
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 6: feel like, man is being such a nice guy in

767
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 6: sports is it's such a like an actual detriment to

768
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 6: who you are because you you care about the people

769
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 6: around you and you want to do it for them

770
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 6: instead of doing it for yourself, and that selfishness sometimes

771
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 6: helps you drag it over the line.

772
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: He's a defending FedEx Cup champion. I don't know if

773
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 4: you noticed that PGA Tour Comms tweeted defending FedEx Cup,

774
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: like as if that's that's the frame of reference that

775
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 4: we're going with for Tommy. You mentioned asking players or

776
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: different people about Bryson anything from that exercise you clean.

777
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: We've obviously we've gone pretty well over Rory's comments and

778
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 4: Max others.

779
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: What did you glean from your discussion?

780
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 6: I had a very interesting exchange with Scotty, I asked him,

781
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 6: you know, hey, like a lot of players have been

782
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 6: in here, you know, weighing in on the Brighton stuff.

783
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 6: Did you see in the coverage last night? And the

784
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 6: best way that I could describe his comments was he

785
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 6: really really wanted to say some things and has some thoughts,

786
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 6: but he walked it back in his mind probably about

787
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 6: three or four times, Like I, if the video is available,

788
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 6: I would encourage people to go get it. I'm gonna

789
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 6: ask Austin to tweet it and to clip it in

790
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 6: this part because he comes so close to I mean,

791
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 6: I can't sort of guess what his opinions are, but

792
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 6: he really has some opinions about this, Like he's like,

793
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 6: I just I don't want to go down that road today.

794
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: I have a tournament to focus on. I'm gonna hit

795
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 6: a few balls. And he was like, I'm just not

796
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 6: gonna do it today. And I was like, oh, you know,

797
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 6: can I follow up in a few weeks and he again,

798
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 6: what almost said it? You could tell he was like

799
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 6: processing his mind. He was like, I just don't feel

800
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 6: like right now is a time for me to comment,

801
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 6: but yeah, I have a lot to say, and that

802
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 6: was really interesting because you.

803
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 3: Know that for Scotty play together to be clear, yeah,

804
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: that he was in that group.

805
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 6: You know, I think there are a lot of players

806
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 6: right now, having talked to a couple of people out there,

807
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 6: like on the record, off the record, who feel like, hey,

808
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 6: I would say that, you know, I know Max would

809
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 6: defended it deeply. I also asked this about Rom and

810
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 6: Rom was like, you know, like I don't know, like

811
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 6: I don't have a good angle on it, but I

812
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 6: think you kind of essentially have to accept the penalty,

813
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 6: like you know, it's it's not a great but you

814
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 6: got to be more careful in there. But I would

815
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 6: like to see more angles before I really await you.

816
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 6: I know there are some players and this is not

817
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 6: rory if you're guessing the thinking that I've talked to

818
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: who really feel like players at this point are on

819
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 6: the wrong side of the line that it used to

820
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 6: be your obligation was to be careful and to be

821
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: really aware when you stepped in around the ball that

822
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 6: you were not to disturb the area. That was your

823
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 6: expectation when you were a kid growing up, And now

824
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 6: there are some players who feel like there are too

825
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 6: many guys on the wrong side of the line. Too

826
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 6: many guys who are just if they're not like consciously

827
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 6: trying to gain an advantage, they are being too reckless.

828
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 6: They're just acting like it doesn't matter, like I'll get

829
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 6: the benefit of doubt anyway.

830
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 7: I think it.

831
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: Doesn't great way to put it. It's a spectacular way

832
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: to put it.

833
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: I thought watching today there was there was a restoration

834
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: of people being careful around a golf ball.

835
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, it isn't just this stuff.

836
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 6: And I think like what people think of is like, oh,

837
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 6: when the players get upset over what a drop might

838
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 6: be or whatever. But a lot of the players get

839
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 6: upset over this kind of thing who they feel like

840
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 6: they're don't do it. And there's another thing that I

841
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 6: was talking to somebody days said, there's players all the

842
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 6: time that like tap down, you know marks, and they're

843
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 6: essentially like digging a trough in the green that they're

844
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 6: making a path for themselves. And that infuriates a lot

845
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 6: of guys, you know, especially if it's you know, they're

846
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 6: not the best of putters, because they're like, that's really

847
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 6: an unfair advantage and you're completely dishonest in the spirit

848
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 6: of the rule.

849
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 4: And so a putting thing, by the way, has become

850
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 4: almost a part of like your routine in terms of

851
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: like you walk here to any point like that is

852
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 4: a part of almost the pre shot or pre putt routine,

853
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: where it's like almost quite frankly, to to run against

854
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 4: the careful part, or it's almost become a subconscious part

855
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 4: of the route.

856
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: You're very conscious.

857
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 4: Of course I'm not excusing it, but almost like this

858
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 4: is part of the routine. Like when you get take

859
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 4: a free throw, you spin it twice. That's what they do.

860
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: But they're creating.

861
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: Troughs or stamping down anyways, go ahead, sorry, Kevin, you.

862
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 6: Know some of the I would say, there are definitely

863
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 6: players I talk to a little bit of them today,

864
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 6: a couple of them who do not like Bryson and

865
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 6: feel like, you know, they still don't feel like he

866
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 6: did this intentionally. I'm talking to another player who's like,

867
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 6: genuinely likes Bryson and absolutely feels like he deserved the penalty.

868
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 6: So it's a little bit of a mixed bag, I

869
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 6: would say, in terms of opinion, but I think that

870
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 6: there are a growing subset of players who really feel

871
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 6: like there should almost be like a come to Jesus

872
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 6: Rules Summit where we sort of reset and say, hey,

873
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 6: like we need to be more conscious of this because

874
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 6: it really is BS in a lot of ways for

875
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 6: some people.

876
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: Interesting.

877
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 4: I think this will be one of the great takeaways

878
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: from the week for sure, certainly what players are talking about.

879
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: Do I expect the PGA.

880
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 4: Tour to start looking after this the three album, of course,

881
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 4: not no, no no. I mean this goes like quick

882
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 4: fight back to their contra I you know, honestly, Brian Rollapp,

883
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised, if you know, the adage on

884
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 4: on tour has always been like, oh, these guys are good.

885
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 4: It was the slogan for a long time, the good

886
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 4: Guy Tour, like everybody's a great guy.

887
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: There's all these like great people go off the game

888
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: of honor if you want.

889
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: You know, honestly, controversy is good for the sport, breaking

890
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: into the into the you know, they should be pedalizing

891
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: players all the time. You get infractions in every other sport,

892
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: and these guys do things that deserve infractions on a

893
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: weekly basis, but they just don't get popped because of

894
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: the tour is terrified, terrified of upsetting players and that's

895
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 2: been the motto of the tour for years.

896
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: You know, I get that, Gig.

897
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 4: I get that the stakes are high, and and that

898
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: people just say, like, you guys are like idiot podcasters

899
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: who've done and that's true. We are idiot podcasters, but

900
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 4: who don't have like skin in the game, and you're

901
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 4: not in the heat of battle. The stakes are super high.

902
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 4: But this is sort of of a piece with the

903
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: the sort of preferred lies, the prevalence of preferred lies.

904
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: It's like a.

905
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: Different game than you would play on your Saturday, Like

906
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: like I'm.

907
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: Not gonna ranstand locations.

908
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna like fuck around, excuse my language with

909
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 4: the lie, like even if I'm one hundred yards on

910
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: the other side of the green and no one can

911
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: see me, Like I just I get it. We're not

912
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: playing for really anything. But I'm also never I've never

913
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: played left cleaning place really like with that often well,

914
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 4: you know, but once a year at the most. Now,

915
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 4: I don't think that it's just like kind of morphed

916
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 4: into this different arrangement. And that doesn't mean they're worse

917
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 4: at golf, but it's not the same piece. It's just

918
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: a different, different sort of Arena.

919
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 2: I think, you know, Brenda one thing to just point out,

920
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: as you know, and this is just a kind of

921
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: a big storyline, probably a better topic for another day,

922
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: Yach Saturday of a major of our final major championship

923
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: of the year.

924
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: But this is like a.

925
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: Whole part of like what's going to be the growing

926
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: schism between the Tour and the majors. There's a huge

927
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 2: financial piece to this, where you know that the tour,

928
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: the tour doesn't own any of these events, and there

929
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: were they're the most valuable properties in sport, and in

930
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: the sport they're run differently. They they play by different rules,

931
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: completely different rules. As you just illustrate, it's a different

932
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: freaking game at these and there's going to be I

933
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: just I imagine that this is going to be a

934
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: growing storyline for the next five years in the sport.

935
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: Is going to be this kind of stuff where it's

936
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: like the tour of the players come This one luckily

937
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 2: was Bryson in the sense, like imagine if they did

938
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: this to like Justin Thomas, the outcry.

939
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 4: I mean, the I ask you to Joseph point, do

940
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 4: you think they would have done this to to Justin Thomas,

941
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: to Roy McRoy to Tommy Fleetwood too.

942
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: You know what's not saying those guys do the same tactics.

943
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 3: But if it was go ahead.

944
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: This was reminiscent of when they didn't want Hideki Matsuyama

945
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 2: to win a mere field, so they gift trapped. They

946
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: gave him a slope play penalty and gift wrapped Phil Major.

947
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: Are you generally you.

948
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 6: Can totally predict that Phil was going to shoot sixty

949
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 6: six on that day.

950
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 7: That's the saw it coming.

951
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 6: We're like, you know, it's not Hunter mayhon Or Tiger

952
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 6: or Lee West when we need to block here, it's

953
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 6: Phil Nicholson, who's a terrible links player.

954
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 7: We have to do something about this.

955
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: Just had to do that for that's that's just one

956
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: of my favorite old hits. But it's very similar to

957
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: the Hidekie thing. And at that time twenty fourteen, Hideki

958
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: was you know what eighteen, and it was like, oh,

959
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: they're they're going after the kid that like nobody's going

960
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: to say it. I mean, I think it was Johnson

961
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: Wagner was who he was playing with that day, and

962
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: he was like apoplectic about the penalty.

963
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: You love this, you love fritting this up. You love it.

964
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: Reminder of it. It's just like out of the blue.

965
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, Arnie, they've done it with the drivers,

966
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: the CT machine and then the Hidekie penalty and out of.

967
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 4: The blue or like we're going to force this rule

968
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: they gave Shane Lowry one last year at Port Rush. Yeah,

969
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: but it was on video pretty pretty conclusively on video.

970
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: Is ball moving?

971
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 4: Do we have We have many criticist criticisms and critiques

972
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 4: of the r Day some of their work and decisions.

973
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: Do we have any sort of quibble with them in

974
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 4: this case? Okay, I just wanted to follow follow up.

975
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 6: I think that I got a little bit of equibble

976
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 6: with the putting in this statement. It was unintentional, Like

977
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 6: I don't know that you could protecting of the player right,

978
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 6: Like Garrett wrote a good piece of this.

979
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 7: On our live blog. How do you know what's in

980
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 7: a player's heart? How do you know?

981
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 6: Like I don't know that it matters whether it's intentional

982
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 6: or not, Like that was either a penalty or not.

983
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 6: That stuff is sort of meant to try to soften

984
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 6: a little bit to blow and the yes, I don't

985
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 6: know that I would put that in there at all.

986
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, really unnecessary. It wasn't intentional, that's just taking bryce

987
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 4: and that I don't know, just say it's a penalty.

988
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 4: They don't have to include that little you know, butter.

989
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: It up a little bit. Okay, anything else from your day, Kevin.

990
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean just you know, I will say one

991
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 6: follow up I was thinking of is here is a

992
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 6: lot of the players feel like it's a very awkward

993
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 6: situation to like call someone out in the moment of

994
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 6: this because like if it if the rules don't get enforced,

995
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 6: if it's not a penalty, then it's like, well, you

996
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 6: have to see this person in play with them all

997
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 6: the time, and it becomes like you tried to f

998
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 6: them over. And so a lot of them are frustrated

999
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 6: that that's like, you know, players used to police each other,

1000
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 6: but now that's why they kind of rely on the rules.

1001
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 6: They're just they have a difficult time being confrontational of it,

1002
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 6: like obviously matthis, Patrick vic shor Hovlin, those guys have

1003
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 6: a little bit less issues with bringing it up occasionally.

1004
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 3: Talk about something real quick.

1005
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't want to what a bunch of soft

1006
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: ass bitches.

1007
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, think about.

1008
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: Think about if the NFL, like if defensive lineman didn't

1009
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: call out offensive lineman who false started, or you know,

1010
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 2: NBA players didn't didn't like say hey that's a foul.

1011
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: You know, like.

1012
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: That's that's more adversarial a little bit. And isn't this

1013
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: the those sports? But I know they're trying to beat

1014
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 4: each other on the leader board.

1015
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you can't. It's about protecting the field.

1016
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: I agree, I'm not defending it.

1017
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 4: I just I don't know if the analogy is after

1018
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 4: But isn't this, Kevin, you can agree, you could jump

1019
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 4: in here. Isn't this sort of the modern the state

1020
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 4: of the modern athlete right where all the players are

1021
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: buddy buddy and the dream team are Buddy Buddy, and

1022
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 4: they join up to make the heatles and you know,

1023
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 4: the the NFL players become buddies off the field, like

1024
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 4: they hate each.

1025
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: Other, but not really banana boat like.

1026
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 4: Isn't that like that's what makes quite honestly, Rory's comments

1027
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 4: and whatever Bryson might say in return, so refreshing to

1028
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 4: have a real life genuine not just rivalry, but like,

1029
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 4: guys do not like each other.

1030
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: They don't like each other. They say it out loud

1031
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: and we know it, and that is totally okay, and

1032
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: because we don't really get that that much anymore, and

1033
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 3: I think that's the modern athlete, and they don't want

1034
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 3: to they don't want to piss at each other's cheerios

1035
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 3: that much.

1036
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 6: It's interesting because I think, like there's a lot of

1037
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 6: money to be made in these like showcases where they

1038
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 6: play together whatever and they're kind of buddy buddy, but

1039
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 6: also there would be just as much money to made

1040
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 6: if they like genuinely didn't like each other. Like how

1041
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 6: much less interesting did the did the Brooks and Bryson

1042
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 6: stuff get when they were like pretending to be pals.

1043
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean, I just think there's a

1044
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 7: little bit of the again.

1045
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 6: Opinion was divided amongst players of like, yeah, Rory, you know,

1046
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 6: did that because he just flat out doesn't like Bryson.

1047
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 6: And Rory like straight up admitted that, you're, like I

1048
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 6: don't care for him, which credits him. But there's a

1049
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 6: couple other players who were like, you know what, there's

1050
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 6: a lot of people who are afraid to speak their

1051
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 6: mind because they just know become a thing and like

1052
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 6: they could asked about it over and over again, it'll

1053
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 6: be a huge distraction so credit to Rory for at

1054
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 6: least like stepping up and saying how he felt instead

1055
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 6: of just hiding behind the you know, pr of like, oh,

1056
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 6: I don't know, I didn't see it. You know, it's

1057
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 6: hard for me to say one way or another. Like he

1058
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 6: was pretty adamant about it. And look, if you don't

1059
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 6: like Rory, you're not gonna like Rory. That's just who

1060
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 6: you are. But I think, like if you are interested

1061
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 6: in someone's candid feelings, whether you agree with or not,

1062
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 6: you can appreciate that he just came out and said it.

1063
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 6: Wasn't afraid to say it.

1064
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: All right, you got to write who who you're picking

1065
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 3: tomorrow before you go, who's your pick to it?

1066
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 7: You know what I'm gonna give. I'm gonna go Sam Burns.

1067
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 6: I've never I think maybe Sam Burns was the the

1068
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 6: best player to never not have a major all along.

1069
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 7: You know, maybe maybe Sam Burns is always better than

1070
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 7: Cam Young.

1071
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: Need to do that to the boys, But you know,

1072
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: you know what, thanks for bringing up bringing up a

1073
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: storyline nobody's talking about.

1074
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 3: Blame the boys. Does a lack of fan support lead

1075
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: to the back nine stumble from Cam Young? That was

1076
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: tough that was.

1077
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 4: It felt like it was all there for him to

1078
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 4: kind of be be basically where Burns is like, it

1079
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: felt like the most likely started the day that would.

1080
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 3: Be that could have been camp or should have been camp.

1081
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: The issue is he might have tuned into a certain

1082
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: podcast looking for self belief and confidence and it's Speacon

1083
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: for self belief and confidence and put them in his

1084
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: top five players.

1085
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 4: All right, Kevin, go right, go right, get out of here.

1086
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us, thank you for your reporting

1087
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: on the ground. Blame the boys.

1088
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: Andy. Let's get to your real and or fake leader

1089
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: board or contender pretender. Let's just pretend. Let's run down

1090
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: the board. Let's start.

1091
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 4: Let me throw you. I'll throw you, I'll throw you.

1092
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: VP here, Sam Burns, we're all in the line. Is

1093
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: the contender? Oh yeah, contender? Foxy Proper World Player goes

1094
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 4: sixty two early on played with Xander Shaffley. Xander was like, ah,

1095
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 4: I was asked about pins, like, I didn't say sixty

1096
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 4: two out there, and I don't think they can make

1097
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 4: harder pins, So I'm not sure what they're going to

1098
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: do tomorrow. Because it's two to straight days of sixty two.

1099
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 4: This was as hard as the pins could be, and

1100
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 4: Foxy goes and gets it, made a ton of strokes

1101
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 4: up on putting was approach obviously, as you can imagine.

1102
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 3: Contender, pretender. I mean the thing.

1103
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: About tomorrow is Ryan Fox shooting sixty two. He matched

1104
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, he matched Herbert at the at the top

1105
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: of the board. And it's like you expect after watching

1106
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: the morning with Xander and him going out and making

1107
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of birdies, they're like, Okay, this lead's going

1108
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: to be pushed to like eleven or twelve, and he's.

1109
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: Not going to be that close. I mean, he's almost

1110
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: in the almost the solo, like he's almost tied for

1111
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: the lead.

1112
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: If it wasn't Sam Burns having this great back nine

1113
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: eight under.

1114
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Would have been on the lead. Must have the day, yeah,

1115
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: most of the afternoon.

1116
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 2: And so you think about it as like somebody could

1117
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: go shoot sixty two again tomorrow morning. It's very available

1118
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: here sixty two, sixty three, sixty four. I think the

1119
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: thing about the way this golf course is set up

1120
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: is it's very, very very hard. If you're not It's

1121
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: so I think, like what people are missing and you

1122
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: see it with like the scores, it's so hard to

1123
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: play really great golf on it, and you're gonna like

1124
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: trip up, You're just gonna it's gonna.

1125
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: Paper cut you along the way.

1126
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: And like Sam Burns the last two days, sixty two,

1127
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: sixty five incredible, does he have another like if he

1128
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: gets it, if he shoots sixty eight, I think it's

1129
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: hard for for somebody to beat him. You know, can

1130
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: can the world's most proper player Ryan Fox? I mean

1131
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: most proper player. He's a proper player, is.

1132
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 3: A Ryan Fox supporting podcast in general? I can't. I

1133
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: just can't put him in pretender.

1134
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: I want to put him pretender, but I can't put

1135
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: the world's most proper player as a pretender.

1136
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: Just cuts cuts against what his name is.

1137
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: I will, I'll join you Fox and Burns sounds like.

1138
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: You know, ah.

1139
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: The thing is if we put him as a as

1140
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: a pretender, Brendan, Yeah, you'd never be able to call

1141
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: him a proper player again, that's a straight face.

1142
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 4: Seawoo Kim also on eight under uh contender pretender.

1143
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think he's he's live. Yeah, he's too bad.

1144
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 3: I'm called pretender just to disagree with you. Here to

1145
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: go in a different direction, Seawo hasn't tooken jack s jack.

1146
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 4: At a major before, and now he's in potential position

1147
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 4: to do it, which.

1148
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: Is really honest. He never wins, always top five.

1149
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, watching NBC, I didn't even know Seawu was contending

1150
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: until very late on Saturday.

1151
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: It was like oh, it was like they were like,

1152
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: oh shit.

1153
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 8: In the second place, we first show us some shots

1154
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 8: of him coming down the stretch, but he teed off

1155
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 8: usually in contution the whole day, So I have no

1156
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 8: bearing of like I didn't get to watch bunch of

1157
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 8: Sea Wou.

1158
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: I will just say this about Seawou Kim. Throughout his career,

1159
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: he's done things extraordinarily great for his age. He was

1160
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: the youngest player I think ever to earn a tour card.

1161
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: He was the youngest winner of the players. He won

1162
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: numerous times in his in his and is uh you know,

1163
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: early years on tour, and that's usually a sign that

1164
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: someone's a great, great player. And I just think, like

1165
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: I would not be shocked if he won a major

1166
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: because of that stuff.

1167
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 4: He has one top ten in thirty seven starts in majors.

1168
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 3: I mean he would have had another, but he broke

1169
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 3: his putter.

1170
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 4: Sure, okay, he went, all right, there's one more which

1171
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 4: I don't I won't concede, but I'll let you just

1172
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 4: for the sake of the players, Ryan Gerard or Gerrard,

1173
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 4: which somebody told me a funny story about how you

1174
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 4: know the great one of the great Liverpool players of

1175
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 4: all time is Steven Gerrard. Like they were telling, right,

1176
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 4: you got to call around Liverpool all the fancy restaurants, just.

1177
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 3: Say, use your name. They're gonna think you're a Gerard

1178
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: or Gerrard and they'll just give you every every table

1179
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: he want, right, And he's like, I think they have

1180
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: like a song for him, Stephen Gerard.

1181
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so he's seven under. Is he a contender

1182
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 4: or pretender? Favorite of ours? Another favorite of the Frida

1183
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 4: Egg industry or the Frida Egg enterprise.

1184
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: I win, I win a very pretty penny if ran

1185
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: Gerard wins. So I'm not putting he know putting the

1186
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm not putting a schmus on him.

1187
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 3: He's he's a contender, he's live.

1188
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 4: God am I the only one I've said pretender for

1189
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 4: sea wou just to mix it up Lucas Herbert.

1190
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: I think I think if listeners are listening Keighley. They

1191
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: will be able to understand that where where I would

1192
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 3: fit on the line. But I have you know you

1193
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 3: weren't corrupted.

1194
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lucas Herbert Herbert a seven under had the sixty

1195
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 4: two shot one over seventy one day pretender.

1196
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 3: Ludvig, contender uh Bryson. Do you think he's a contender? Yes,

1197
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: I'm with you on Ludwig. If I was going to.

1198
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: Rank rank somebody's chances of winning, I think i'd put

1199
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: him my second most likely. Wow, I think he he's

1200
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 2: the player. He's the player that hasn't played.

1201
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: Like the great round on this leader board.

1202
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: He's played good, He's played very good golf, but like

1203
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 2: when you think about he played a very good round today,

1204
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: but if you think like, okay, he had like a

1205
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: mediocre first round shot even part, is there one great

1206
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: round in there?

1207
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: And is there?

1208
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: And often it's like you get one great round in

1209
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: a tournament that you're playing great and like one truly

1210
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: great round And I think like some other players Bryce

1211
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: since was yesterday?

1212
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: Do happen happened on Sunday? For the lately? I mean,

1213
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: like very steady.

1214
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: The only way, the only way you get you get

1215
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: chances to win is if you're in the arena and

1216
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: I people tend to think that it's a problem when

1217
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: you don't get it done. I think that are all

1218
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: learning experiences, and I would not be shocked if he

1219
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: I like, if I was looking for a good value

1220
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: bet I might I would probably point my money towards

1221
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: Ludwig the Shamba.

1222
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 4: We're both saying as a contender for obvious reasons, Jackson

1223
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 4: super at the sixth.

1224
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 3: Under, No, it's not going to happen. They're full golf.

1225
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 3: I will join you in that pretender Rasmus York got.

1226
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: We've got a couple of storylines nobody's talking about about

1227
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: some pretenders.

1228
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 3: Please Edge of Desire.

1229
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 5: This was a PJ PJ special here, this was Joseph

1230
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 5: and I have been waiting all week to work in

1231
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 5: a John Mayer reference to Jackson Suber here, he's right

1232
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 5: on the edge of desire. I don't he's feeling the

1233
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 5: gravity of the situation as he enters Sunday with a

1234
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 5: chance to win a major.

1235
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's happening.

1236
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 5: When I made this, he was, he was still in

1237
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,439
Speaker 5: second place and then kind of peered off from there.

1238
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: He is no, Herbert the next generation mayor like the

1239
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 3: next era John Mayer.

1240
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 5: I mean they make different kinds of music. They make

1241
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 5: different kinds of music. I think it's disrepectful to John Mayer.

1242
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you might say that. Wow, all right,

1243
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 4: what's our next storyline? Nobody's talking about namesake?

1244
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 5: Much like Justin Herbert his cousin. Can Lucas get it

1245
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 5: done in crunch time? Or is this all just a hypothetical.

1246
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 4: I thought he was Bobby a Bears cousin. He's Herbert,

1247
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 4: all right, I can't keep it straight.

1248
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: Okay, analytics, the analytics nerds love.

1249
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 3: The analytics loves him measurable.

1250
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 5: If this was a hypothetical tournament, Lucas Herbert would have

1251
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 5: won already after yesterday. But we get down to crunch

1252
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 5: time and and and the chips start getting down.

1253
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 3: Really, you know, what did you see the graphic NBC

1254
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 3: put up VP. You didn't see this?

1255
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: He had gotten He hit the longest drive on I

1256
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: think it was on fourteen, to get the longest.

1257
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: Drive of anybody in the field. That's like a perfect

1258
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert staff or what about Yeah, he's got seventy

1259
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: seven miles an hour. I mean he's got to be great.

1260
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 4: What about posting the sixty two on Friday it's going

1261
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 4: for like it's going like forty for his fifty five

1262
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 4: for three hundred.

1263
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 5: And ninety five yards on football against Then then we

1264
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 5: get then we get to December.

1265
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rasmus Nyeerguard Peterson is five under, has one, loves

1266
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 4: links golf, has won on the sand belt, went at

1267
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 4: Royal Melbourne. His caddie I just discovered, is wearing a

1268
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 4: shotgun starting hat. It isn't our best interest if he's

1269
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 4: on the camera tomorrow going low the.

1270
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 3: I hate guy on the back.

1271
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm having to send our guy in the

1272
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: bank some more gear.

1273
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 3: We need to get his name and address. We'll send

1274
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 3: him more gear. But I'm going to give him the

1275
01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 3: pretender today. What if he goes Royal Melbourne style. I

1276
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 3: would love that. I'd love for the s to be

1277
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 3: all over the place.

1278
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 4: I'm with you, he needs to jam it face Tommy

1279
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 4: Fleet with the home toom favorite of five under. He's

1280
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 4: five shots back the lead with you know about ten guys.

1281
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 3: Between them, and I don't see it. He's not having

1282
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 3: a good year.

1283
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 4: Just because it's a narrative win, right, he's placed.

1284
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: I don't like the situation of a guy who doesn't

1285
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: win a lot being five five shots back.

1286
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 3: That just doesn't to me square up as like this

1287
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 3: is going to happen.

1288
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, of all the of all

1289
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: the guys that could get real hot, you know.

1290
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you know what, I'll put her to be

1291
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 3: back and I'll put it put him in contender. He

1292
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: could shoot if he.

1293
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: Should three, he could win, right any other contenders now

1294
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 4: that we are below five under, we have Xander at four,

1295
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 4: rom at four, Scottie at four, and he got.

1296
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 3: He could choose sixty two tomorrow and thus he could win.

1297
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 3: He's hitting it so good? Are we coming? Rom h

1298
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 3: the Obie ball on one? What a just a crip

1299
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 3: lake start, And like legitimately if he you.

1300
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: Know, this is so easy to do this, but like

1301
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 2: legitimately he had ironed the second.

1302
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 3: Time he teed off. He had driver the first time,

1303
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 3: and he is an obi and then he is an

1304
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 3: iron and he hit an iron. He had one hundred

1305
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 3: and fifteen yards in.

1306
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 4: He's been getting kind of ripped for hitting iron off

1307
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 4: the TLL. Some people in the grounds, coaches players have

1308
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 4: told me, like why the f is he hitting iron

1309
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 4: at five?

1310
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, being a little too conservative, but you

1311
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 3: think he's in it. Our shuffler, rom, I don't think

1312
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 3: m's in it. Okay at four? A decie at four,

1313
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: missed him? Okay, shawfully at four? What about Kazuma KABORI

1314
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 3: talking about what if I can? What? What if you're

1315
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 3: Eric Cole? Do the sixty two get to twelve and win? Kazoo?

1316
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 3: I think honestly, honestly people would riot.

1317
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 4: I don't know if they'd riot, but yes, anybody below four. No, No,

1318
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 4: we're going too far. There's no great names. There's Cameron

1319
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 4: Young and Bobby Mack and yeah, you know.

1320
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: Scotty's Scotty's gonna have He's got like a fairly early

1321
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:34,839
Speaker 2: time for that slot.

1322
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 3: He he's hanging so freaking good.

1323
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna I'm curious with data golf where he's at.

1324
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 4: He was eleventh today in strips game Tea Green number

1325
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 4: one was it was Sam Burns.

1326
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 3: I believe.

1327
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: Let's see he's uh he's plus two approach. Oh this

1328
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 2: was just round threeurnament. Yeah, yeah, he's plus one.

1329
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 4: Point two's second behind Burns and Tea Green for the tournament.

1330
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 4: So hitting it good as you would suggest, not.

1331
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: That the sheriff and the sergeant one two one. It's

1332
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: kind of unbelievable law and order.

1333
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 3: Well, you know what it is.

1334
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: What it's the fairest open venue, so naturally the fair

1335
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: police are out just out in force.

1336
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 3: I I guess you like the venue. We're gonna we'll

1337
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 3: go big on this Sunday night.

1338
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 4: Any minor points you want to make about the venue Saturday,

1339
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 4: that's fine. I didn't know if there's a little little point,

1340
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 4: a little hole we should watch, you know what.

1341
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 3: I agree with your rant yesterday.

1342
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: I'm just done with like online discourse about about like tournaments,

1343
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 2: tournaments set up.

1344
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: It's just they're long tournaments and people just have to have.

1345
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody who complains has has attended like

1346
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 2: less than ten majors in person.

1347
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really try not to be prisoner of like.

1348
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 2: Or having fun because I'm golf tournament is a media member,

1349
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: like nobody like as like it as someone part of

1350
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 2: like the part of a covering a tournament, like the

1351
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: people that are complaining about tournaments set up.

1352
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really try not to be a prisoner of

1353
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 4: being here. Like am I just saying this is great

1354
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,879
Speaker 4: because I'm enjoying myself here, like, I think it's awesome.

1355
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 4: I would tell you like Oakmont wasn't great, Like I

1356
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 4: will tell you like there are ones that I felt like, huh, unfulfilled.

1357
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 3: But I'll stand for you. You were trying to get there.

1358
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: I think it was a great week. This has been

1359
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 4: a great I think it's been awesome. And I just

1360
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 4: I guess I snapped that having to hear about I

1361
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 4: don't know something.

1362
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: Your point, your point about people complain when they see

1363
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 2: water on the greens.

1364
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 3: Like, I've got a news news flash for everyone.

1365
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: When you maintain greens at like point one inches, when

1366
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: you maintain grass at that height, you have to water

1367
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: it to keep it alive. So, no matter what, there's

1368
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: water has to go down on the ground. They have

1369
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: to put water down to keep grass alive.

1370
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: Hollered about stuff. Where is?

1371
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 4: This is what we've come to every major We're just

1372
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 4: gonna have to talk about water being put down anything else. Farmers,

1373
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 4: who's your We got it. I got one more little

1374
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 4: game for you. We're doing the sign game again. This

1375
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 4: is a fun little Saturday night game. I've been having

1376
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 4: fun with Jeff Shagford on the site all day or

1377
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 4: all week. The open just loves putting gobbly goods up

1378
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,919
Speaker 4: on every billboard, every sign, every wall, just these slogans.

1379
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 4: So we're going to try to do inout alternate. You

1380
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 4: have to guess fake a real slogan on one of

1381
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 4: the grand stands here this week.

1382
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 3: Number one, I.

1383
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 4: Will read aloud, at the bridge between the past and possibility,

1384
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 4: At the bridge between the past and possibility, Nature's greatest

1385
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 4: stage awaits.

1386
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: But this is real. I mean, I.

1387
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 4: Couldn't make it up if I tried. At the Bridge

1388
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 4: between past and possibility, Nature's greatest stage awaits, honestly feels

1389
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 4: like Claude or something just barfed that out.

1390
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: Awful. That's at the first.

1391
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 4: T time tested, Mother Nature approved.

1392
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: That's not that's like American verbiage. That's not the royal

1393
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 2: and ancient verbiage. That's not a real sign.

1394
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 3: Very well done. I believe many k v or Joseph

1395
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 3: submitted that one uh, some courses aren't meant to be tamed. Mmmm.

1396
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: I would say that this course, whether the sign is

1397
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,839
Speaker 2: real or not, has been tamed with three sixty twos

1398
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: and and four sixty twos, and it's it's recent major history.

1399
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,879
Speaker 2: It turns out fairness isn't isn't a good scoring deterrent.

1400
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this is real.

1401
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: It's fake, super fake. I don't know, step into something timeless.

1402
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 3: It feels like a watch commercial and I'm gonna say

1403
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 3: it's fake. That is real.

1404
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 4: That is real as you're walking in step into something timeless. Look,

1405
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 4: I mean by nature, it's stupid. Champions write history.

1406
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: This feels real, Yes, very real where I like Jano

1407
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 3: in the picture.

1408
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 4: Sure, I mean, dude, do you don't know amount of

1409
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 4: effort and time? I actually want to put it in

1410
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 4: this as soon as I see it. I just take

1411
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 4: the most haphazard photos so I won't forget about it.

1412
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: That's the I love that, the that yourself took this picture,

1413
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: and then PJ, who put this little slide deck together,

1414
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 2: didn't even even crop the photos so that everybody could

1415
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: actually see it.

1416
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 4: I am just taking these so I don't forget them,

1417
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 4: and I have a record.

1418
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 3: It is a good team effort.

1419
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 4: Ah where every bounce has a story, every bounce.

1420
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 3: Has that's not real.

1421
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 4: It's seeking claret on a golden links. This feels real,

1422
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 4: super fake, definitely fake, where the elements play real, that's real.

1423
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 4: I believe they ran that one back if I'm not

1424
01:16:55,240 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 4: mistaken from a lad from lad to greatness?

1425
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: Awaits is this about Tommy?

1426
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 2: Um?

1427
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 3: I don't think this is real. That's fake. That's fake.

1428
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 4: Uh, there's greatness. Greatness is used on everything, walk in

1429
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 4: the footsteps of legends.

1430
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 3: I think that's real. I feel like I've seen that

1431
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 3: at the twenty twenty two Open. That is true. That

1432
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 3: is true.

1433
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 4: The word greatness is used about four different times open

1434
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 4: to all claimed by one not real fake good job

1435
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 4: you're doing well, doing decent only at the open, only

1436
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 4: at Royal Birkdale.

1437
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 2: I think this is not real too, that is not

1438
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 2: that is can't.

1439
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 3: Believe there this many slogans.

1440
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 4: So that's what I have to take these shitty pictures

1441
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 4: because I won't forget about them.

1442
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 3: That's it.

1443
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 4: I don't even think we included the ball PJ. I

1444
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 4: think there were a few we left on the cutting

1445
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 4: room floor.

1446
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 3: That's all it is. It's just boom, what happened?

1447
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 5: They were three or four we left on the cutting

1448
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 5: room floor. I didn't I didn't want to go to

1449
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 5: real ones.

1450
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, real ones left, yes, so they're even more

1451
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 3: up there they're even more up there.

1452
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: Andy, all right, who's your pick? Who are your guys picks?

1453
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: Are you taking care? Did we not even touch on cam?

1454
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 2: Cam didn't even get treatment? Do you tumble that far?

1455
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: He's three about Oh my god, god, Yeah, it was

1456
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 3: not good. It was bad.

1457
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 5: It was the back din was really bad, really tough.

1458
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 5: After the bar on fourteen, it was pretty clear that

1459
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 5: that it was not going to happen today.

1460
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 3: Do I think you let go of the rope?

1461
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 6: Oh?

1462
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 3: Whoa see a quitter? PJ in in a minute or two.

1463
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:52,520
Speaker 3: Who had the worst day? Cameron You? Kevin Kissner? Oh?

1464
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: Good toss up?

1465
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 7: Right?

1466
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 3: That is?

1467
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 5: That is a good toss up. If you were to

1468
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 5: ask Kevin Kissner, he would say Cameron Young. If you

1469
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 5: were to ask potentially anybody else on Twitter, I think

1470
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 5: it might be Kevin Kissner.

1471
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 4: Kevin Kevin, Yeah, yeah, what happened?

1472
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 3: Kissner just said the walking rules official. He blamed him.

1473
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 5: Kisner opens when they transitioned from Tariko to the A team,

1474
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 5: I believe at ted am Eastern, Kisner and and Dan

1475
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 5: are on the screen doing their open and Kisner is

1476
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 5: uh is explaining, you know, giving his take on the

1477
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 5: Bryson thing. He doesn't really give a take about whether

1478
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 5: it was a penalty or not, but says that you

1479
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 5: know there's a walking official with every group. That guy

1480
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 5: should have gone over there. He should have been monitoring

1481
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 5: the situation the whole time, like not outwardly blaming the

1482
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 5: rules official, but questioning why the rules official was not

1483
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 5: on the scene. And this is this is tweeted, this

1484
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 5: is Joseph put it in the live blog saying like,

1485
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 5: how do you not have an opinion about whether it

1486
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 5: was a penalty or not. You're just just saying that

1487
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 5: the rules official should have been there. Kyle Porter tweets

1488
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 5: that Kissner blames the rules official, which I think, like

1489
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 5: blames might be like a tinge too far, but it's

1490
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,919
Speaker 5: in the ballpark and uh No. Laying up account tweets

1491
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 5: over it, and Kisner, who is on the air at

1492
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 5: one pm Eastern time on NBC, decides to start mixing

1493
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 5: it up on Twitter with the luminaries there.

1494
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,919
Speaker 4: That's that's crazy that he blamed the walking rules official.

1495
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 4: It just seems like there should be more larger.

1496
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: I think he blamed the walking rules official, but that

1497
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: was all he had far, That's all I mean.

1498
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 5: I don't blame is not the word I would use.

1499
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,799
Speaker 5: He was questioning why that guy was not okay?

1500
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 3: So worst day than Cameron? On who we picking? Who

1501
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 3: do we like?

1502
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 2: I'm taking to the sergeant, I bet, I tweeted on

1503
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: I tweeted on June ninth, Sam Burns is.

1504
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 3: Going to win a major?

1505
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 5: Oh God, I mean I'll take I'll take it even

1506
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 5: back further than that. I had Sam Burns in my

1507
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 5: End of year ow GR top ten in December.

1508
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it clean. I'm gonna make a clean sweep.

1509
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 4: I think Sam Burns has looked really really good on

1510
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 4: major championships Sundays. He hasn't trebled from the moment he

1511
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 4: played awesome at Chinnacock, played awesome at the Masters, and

1512
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 4: now he's doing it from the lead dog position those

1513
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 4: he was not. And so I don't think he's shown

1514
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 4: any kind of weakness or or you know, turtling up

1515
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 4: house cap behavior on Sundays. And now he has a

1516
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 4: lot elite And I like that combo for.

1517
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 3: Sam Burns on Sunday. I think that does it.

1518
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 4: Any other cleanup we got will be going home and

1519
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 4: live tomorrow night some point, not too late England time,

1520
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 4: but uh probably let it breathe, let the Claire drug

1521
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 4: ceremony happen, and that we'll be live on YouTube having money.

1522
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 3: Up against the World Cup.

1523
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna, oh gosh, I would imagine we're going.

1524
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 3: I think we're going to be. I met. I'm not gonna.

1525
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 4: I don't want to podcast at like eleven local, but

1526
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 4: let's I guess I could.

1527
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 3: We're not scared of it.

1528
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: We know what brings the bacon home, and it's these

1529
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: live YouTube live numbers.

1530
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 4: How about this third place? Yeah right, how about this

1531
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 4: third place game? I didn't even know that was the

1532
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 4: thing today. So they got that going on England.

1533
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 3: I don't I can't believe that they have that. They

1534
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 3: need inventory to sell thunder calves.

1535
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 5: Man, you could have you could have gotten a bronze medal.

1536
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 5: You could all over it. We should just start doing

1537
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 5: that here.

1538
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 3: No, I have questions about that.

1539
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 4: I have questions about horse cops, which are just rumbling

1540
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 4: around everywhere this week. I don't know that there's any efficacy.

1541
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 4: What's the utility of cops on horse at this point?

1542
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 4: It's just done everywhere. We're not cleaning up all right,

1543
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 4: that does it? The Saturday edition of the Shotgun start.

1544
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 4: We'll be back Sunday night after play at some point,

1545
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 4: thank you for your support, Talk to you.

1546
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 3: Then posts story instant past s