WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: Could You Live Without a Refrigerator? 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.360 Hello everyone, it's your old pal Chuck one half of 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:06.480 Stuff you should Know. Josh is asleep. I can hear 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:09.880 him snoring next to me. And this episode for my 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:14.080 select pick, Could you Live without a Refrigerator? Sounds silly 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.240 from January two two. I guess it was our New 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.840 Year's special edish, but hey, can you live without a refrigerator? 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:25.120 It's really about slow food. Check it out right now. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:30.640 Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of My 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:39.559 Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.080 I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, and Terry's 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.599 over there. She's she's eating stalks of broccoli. Yes, not 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:52.120 in the floretts. She's eating chunky trunk. She throws the 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.560 floretts away. It's bizarre. No, she's I'm not into food way, 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.760 So she's eating every single bit. She's just munching on 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.880 it like a rabbit in there. Oh, I see you know. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.720 Oh no that I look more closely, I see that. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.399 You're right. That was just a clever lead into what 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.319 will be a great interrupt from you. No, that was 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.240 the interro. Okay, Jerry doesn't waste food. People, No food 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.240 waste is a terrible thing, and we're we're that's that's 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.399 only part of the tip of the iceberg of this 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.080 subject that we're about to touch. On the tip of 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:24.000 the ice box. This is a huge, rambling, enormous topic 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:28.039 that we're about to tackle. See, Chuck, you've heard of 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:32.840 green eco friendliness. Yeah, yeah, we like eco consciousness. You'd 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.600 like to push that racket when we can. Yeah, what 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.039 said is like more and more today it seems to 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.640 be well, there's parts that have becoming green, like people recycle, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.080 and like recycling is just the thing now, it's not 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.560 going anywhere. Like if you don't recycle, now you're kind 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.720 of like one of those people that throws cigarettes out 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.640 the window. Yeah, that's pretty bad too. You know a 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.160 lot of people still do that. Yeah, but I think 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.160 not to get off on my high horse, but I 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:58.960 think a lot of the people that toss the cigarettes 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.920 out the window probably like would say it's someone through 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.800 a McDonald's back out the window. They'd be like, how 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.960 can you do that? Yeah, Like they justify cigarettes somehow. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.600 I've seen that people throw those things out like eco 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.960 friendly people. I think just eco friendly smokers, I think 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.160 justify that because it's like, well, you still don't want 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.200 to cigarette in your car? Do you write, dude? Because 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.400 they stink they're there, It'll end up in in a 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.799 lake or something. A birdle eat it? Did you know that? 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.280 I was at um the gas station the other day 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.840 and I saw a guy driving off and as he 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.360 drove off, he held his hand out the window and 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.680 released a stack of apparently losing lottery tickets a stay. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.000 I'm talking like thirty, just right into the parking lot. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.679 I couldn't believe my eyes. I mean, it's a joke now. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.960 Literally on Anchorman in the original anchor Man, when they 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.880 finish all of their McDonald's, they just throw all their 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.680 stuff like in the park and the Madman had one 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.120 of those two they had like a family picnic, and 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.760 afterward they gathered up their stuff and just like picked 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.480 up the mine and throw all the trash out. We're like, 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.320 let's go right, That's how it used to be, though. Yeah, 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.519 isn't that weird that that used to be a thing 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.079 that it's okay to throw trash on the ground and 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.400 it's it's not okay, but some people still do it. 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:15.600 I've seen it, right, Um. But the point is, I 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.839 am making a point here. Believe it or not, there 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:23.119 is some parts of the green movement that have become entrenched, 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.400 ensconced in the mainstream culture, and it's having an impact. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.560 It's having a real factor. It's not having enough of 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:35.040 an effect. We're all headed for global catastrophe eventually. Um. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.000 But when we when we think about the green movement now, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.760 it almost seems past tense like it was. There's parts 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.840 of it that seemed like a bit of a fad, 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.720 you know what I mean, like being green? How green 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.240 can you go? Like what can you do? And uh, 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.160 there was this thing that kind of popped up in 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:56.320 two thousand nine because of a New York Times article, um, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:02.560 where people were starting to give up the refrigerators. Oh yeah, 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.640 as part of the green movement to be green, to 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.800 basically like say I'm greener than now. Right, you get 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.720 the impression that that's what they're doing. Ultimately they're saying, no, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.200 it's just one less thing that's using up um electricity, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.400 so it's saving c O two emissions. But it seems 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.200 to me to fall along the line of the people 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.200 who like had themselves sterilized so they couldn't contribute to 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:31.160 the growing population, global population. You're saying those are about 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:36.320 the same, it seems to me, although the the refrigerator 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.720 one is far more reversible because you just go out 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.880 and buy a refrigerator and plug it in. Then bam, 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:48.080 I'm back baby. Well you can reverse your your procedure 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.680 to not have kids to these days. Yeah, I think 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.880 it's kind of it's a roll of the dice. Oh 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.760 really was if it'll work again? Oh? I thought you 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.839 could get it REVERSI open the sweat. They can, you know, 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.120 reverse it, but it doesn't necessarily work. Okay, I thought 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:07.120 it was pretty good. All right, man, that was a sidebar. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.320 Uh So should we talk about food waste? Well, let's 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.120 talk about this refrigerator thing. You're really fixated on the 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:15.880 food waste thing, aren't you. Well, it's a big part 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.560 of whether or not you can go without a fridge. Well, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.839 let's let's talk about what happens or why people go 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.839 without a fridge first, chuck, if feel bear with me. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.200 So people are pulling the plugs on these refrigers, or 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.440 they were in two thousand nine, or at least three 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.479 people were in two thousand nine one in Canada. I 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:36.200 think yeah, um, and but I get the impression from 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.800 reading the original New York Times article that there were 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.240 there were, It was just kind of the sub thing 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.719 among the green It wasn't all the rage. No, like 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.280 bamboo flooring a cork flooring. No. And the New York 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.479 Times article pointed out that it seems to be a 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:56.440 dividing line among green the eco conscious in the eco crazy. Yeah, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:01.760 like where some people say that's preposterous, that's the dumbest 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.720 thing I've ever heard, And then other people were like, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.440 look at how far I'm willing to go to be green. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.520 So what's the what's the benefit of all that? Well, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.440 a refrigerator uses electricity, and I guess we can give 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.560 you a couple of stats to bring it all home 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.440 for you. Typical fridge post two thousand uses about four 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:26.160 watts per year. Yeah, that's thanks to the Energy Star ratings. Yeah, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.640 which is better than it used to be for sure. Um. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.599 And if you want to translate that into uh, cheeseburgers, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:37.280 no way, into miles driven in your car, because we're 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.960 talking about the emission of c O two. Uh, that's 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.520 about eight hundred miles driving your car about eight hundred 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.480 miles depending on what kind of mile did you get 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:52.440 because really it's gallons of gas. Uh yeah. So even 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.360 then in the article they point out that it's kind 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.039 of low on the list. It ranks behind clothes dryer, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.800 central air in your furnace. Yeah, your furnace is like 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.320 six thousand kilowats a year. It's amazing. So you're you're 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:10.200 a refrigerator um is four and fifty kilowat hours of 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.760 electricity per year. So it's not even super high up 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.200 in your household. No, it's nowhere near. But I think 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.040 the people who are pulling the plugs on these refrigerators 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.400 are saying every little bit counts. Yeah, and they probably 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:28.120 have already taken other green precautions, like they probably don't 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.720 run their furnace like this, you know, like they might 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.120 have a pot belly stone. They they better not if 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:38.239 they use a normal old like yeah, terrible electric furnace. 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.960 They then I'm going to go to their house and 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.120 have a little chance like shaking outside their house. Yet 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.120 they're eating out of a glocooler, right, and that's what 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.760 they do. I mean, like when when when you pull 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.480 the plug on the fridge. I wish I could just 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.880 come up with another phrase that rolls off the tongue. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.680 So I'm tired of saying that when you go out 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:02.920 a refrigerator dee fridge defridge chuck nice. When you de 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:09.480 fridge um, you still need typically some source of cooling 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.800 inside of your home, something that can keep some food 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:17.200 items from perishing, because we apparently refrigerate a lot of 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.600 stuff we don't need to. That is true. Yeah, you 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.679 can keep that ketchup and mustard out on the counter 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.080 hot sauce. Oh yeah, I've read it goes three years 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.720 in a regular pantry. Really, Rachi, just keep it out there. Yeah, 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.400 we kept growing up, kept a lot of stuff out 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.160 of the fridge, and not for any reason other than 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.440 that's just how it was in my house. Like I 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.880 remember butter like in a tray on the counter. Butter 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:42.640 is better that way. Room tip. Oh man, are you 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.720 kidne me? Yeah, it's like it's already it's so spread herble. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.000 I keep mine in the fridge just to keep it 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.040 longer because they don't need that much butter. But man, 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:54.040 if you go to a restaurant and they give you 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.480 butter and it's cold, just like, what do you do? 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.640 It's literally Emily's big pet peeve is well, I agree 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.080 with cold rolls with cold butter or hot rolls with 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:06.920 cold but Yeah, because you get the hot rolls, you 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.199 think this place knows what they're doing, and you get 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.679 this cold pad of butter. So I've developed the technique, Um, 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.480 you know, the under the arm pit method that well, 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.360 it's close. It's it's you just cut your hands and 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.319 you put a couple of those little foil wrapped You 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.160 want to make sure it's wrapped in foil pats of 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.560 cold butter, and you heat them up pretty quick. And 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.080 I'll tell you what. You can make some friends around 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:29.960 the table if you eat somebody's butter up for him, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.160 because nobody likes cold button. Then you hand them a 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.440 little butter pat and you're like, here, take this, it's 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.440 my gift to you. I like it when they just 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.640 have a little olive oil and balstomic enegar. You know 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.559 that's good too. But I like good room temperature butter, 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:48.040 especially like milk fat content or more good butter. Um. So, 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.120 like I said, I like butter out. We left Um 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:56.120 remember certain condiments being left out? What about fruits and vegetables? Um, yeah, 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.199 like a lot of vegetables. I don't refriger right now, 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.600 Like I never frigerate peppers and onions, and well you 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.440 don't want to. If you do refrigerate an onion, it 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.920 will last longer. But if you're going to use it, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.360 you want to take it out of your refrigerator and 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.640 bring it up to room temperature before you cook with 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.560 it or use it in food, because it takes a 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.680 lot of the temperature white. But that's also a tip 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.840 if you hate crying. Um oh yeah, because if you 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.440 cut a cold onion, the enzyme that eventually sets off 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.320 the chain reaction that makes you cry is contained. It's 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.880 not as volatile. I've noticed that. So that's your your 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:38.040 tip from Chuck and Josh my eyes killed me too. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.800 With onions, it depends on the onion. And it's not 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.560 just like oh it's a little tears. It's like massive burning. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.800 It's really bad. Really Yeah, yeah, you should super sensitive. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.880 I did it. Don't be dumb on it. That explains 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.400 exactly what's going on with you. I've seen that. Okay, 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.240 so you know, um so yeah, a lot of the 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.520 vegetables I don't keep, like it depends on when I'm 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.599 gonna eat it. If I bring home some like a 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.440 big head of cauliflower. I'll keep that out in the 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.000 fruit basket for a couple of days. I've never seen 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.520 that before my entire life. What cauliflower out? Yeah, I've 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.160 only seen it in like a crisper drawer. Yeah, I've 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:16.320 left cauliflower and broccoli out like green onions, and I 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:22.120 can see that lemongrass, garlic, of course, Potatoes I don't 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.559 want to refrigerate. I think I would like stop short 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.920 in the point if I saw like cauliflower out in 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.600 like a fruit pat be like, what is that? That's 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.520 just fine. I haven't even been to your house. I 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.520 didn't notice that. Well, I mean I don't always have, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.000 had you gone through the coliflower, yeah, just eating it um. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.920 Tomatoes are another one too. There they'll last longer in 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.240 the fridge, but if you're gonna cook with them, you 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.319 want to bring up to the room temperature. Some stuff 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.440 you just don't want to refrigerate. Potatoes apparently don't do 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.080 very well in the fridge. You put them in a 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.840 nice brown paper sack in your pantry away from the sunlight. 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.440 They keep for a really long time. Yeah, you know, Jerry, 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.920 I think Jerry showed me the little trick was that 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.920 you with the cilantro Jerry and the what I need 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.560 to know this because I eat a lot of cilantro. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.880 You the cilantro you don't use Just fill up a 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.840 glass like half full of water and just throw it 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.280 in there and just leave it in your out in 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.640 your kitchen. Oh yeah, like the base of it in 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.760 the water and just stay fresh, like super long. And 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.599 you know, the fridge can beat up cilantro after like 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.120 a day or two. I like your optimism, by the way, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.160 thank you. Um, the avocado is what always kills me though. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.600 I well, I eat a lot of avocado as well. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.240 It's hard to keep those fresh. Uh, tried a lot 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:36.200 of tricks too. Well, here's here's your trick. You're ready, okay? 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.640 Oh you're cutting up an avocado and like, yeah, that's 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.839 it for the avocado. I have no trick for that. Well, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.719 what do you eat a whole? Yeah? Pretty much. I 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.640 don't understand what. Well, I don't know. I don't like 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.079 eat the skin and everything. No, that's not what I mean. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.520 It's like, once I could into an avocado, all of 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.320 that avocado is about to be consumed by me. So 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.120 that's the tip. Yeah, but I do have another tip 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.920 for you though. With avocados. You know how you go 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.199 to the store and you like squeeze them, and you 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.240 you can find one out of a hundred and fifty 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.200 that's squeeze a bowles. Pretty annoying, it is. But that 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:13.040 squeezed one is gonna be nasty and bruised and just disgusting. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.520 There's gonna be basically like rot wherever you and everybody 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.840 else squeeze that avocado. So you can have a lot 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.679 less usable avocado. So you want to get one that 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.840 you can't squeeze. It's so firm it can't be squeezed well. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.160 But then you just have to wait a few days 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.000 to eat it. You can wait one day, it's all 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.040 it takes, my friend. And here's how. You take a 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.600 brown paper bag and buy a banana, and you put 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.880 the banana and the avocados in the brown paper bag, 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.360 roll it up pretty tight, but leave a little space 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.320 in there. And they do it, and the game right, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.120 they get it on, uh, And what happens is the 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:52.280 avocados ripening. Really yeah. The the banana as it ripens, well, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.280 it puts off a gas interesting um that ripens the 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.280 avocados I'm gonna try that, and I'm not kidding. Twelve 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:03.160 to twenty four hours you have totally ready avocado. Yeah, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.520 because I like my avocados firm still. Oh, you're gonna 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.079 love this, Chuck, and not mushy but not not hard 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.520 but just firm. You're gonna thank me later. I'm excited 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.120 about your avocado experiences now I am too. So there's 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.880 plenty of stuff that doesn't need refrigerating, So that's one 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:24.240 way that people can defridge. Yeah, this is turning into 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.440 like food one on one with Josh and Chuck. Yeah, 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.880 I hope that's okay. Um. Yeah, plenty of stuff that 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.080 you don't have to refrigerate. Um, but people still use 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.960 some sort of cooling mechanism. Yeah, like a cooler, Like 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:39.480 if you have meats or dairy products. Um, if you 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.880 want to go without a fridge, most people use a cooler. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.040 And the thing that annoy me with this article, as 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.360 they said, or they use a mini freezer to make ice. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.680 I'm like, well, that's probably just about as bad as 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.800 you're stupid fridge. Well, it's pretty close. So like one 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.560 of those little chest freezers. Um, I didn't see the 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.240 size of it. Oh a six point four cubic feet 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.840 chest freezer, which isn't big, but it's not that small. Um, 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.080 But apparently that's the that's the thing that people who 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.400 defridge use. That still uses two kilowatt hours a year. 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.800 So really, by unplugging your refrigerator and using a chest freezer, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:19.360 you're saving about fifteen gallons of gas a year. Yeah. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.680 I don't know if that's your best, like spend your 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.960 time doing better things for the environment and the well. Again, 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:26.760 I think people who do this are saying, I'll do 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.560 this on top of stuff and then kind of cleverly, 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.360 if you ask me, they're using this the ice chest 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.920 to um will basically fill up like a two lead 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.200 bottle of water which they didn't allow to go to waste, 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:44.040 the two leader bottle um, putting those in the freezer chest, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.760 and then having like a separate cooler that they put 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.360 the frozen water bottles in to keep cool their milk 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.920 and their meats and stuff like that. Uh yeah, and well, 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.680 you know what, we're going to talk about some tips 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.360 for shopping to accommodate in this lifestyle. But porst, let's 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:18.400 take a little message right all right, So you're talking 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.920 about the cooler full of frozen bottles of water to 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.560 keep like your milk in some of your dairy and stuff. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:26.920 But if you when you go to the store, if 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.680 you're gonna try and live this way, you can't probably 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.000 buy the gallons of milk unless you really go through 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.800 a lot of milk. You might want to buy quartz 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.520 of milk. You can't go to Sam's Club and buy 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.280 eight gallons of mayonnaise unless you eat that pretty quickly. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.000 If you should focus more attention on your mayonnaise habits 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.320 than what you're doing for the environment. So you're gonna 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.520 have to buy smaller amounts of things, which they say 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.600 can cost a little more. But if you're not wasting 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.520 food though, like if you added up the food you waste, 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.000 you're probably burning a lot of money and there's gonna 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.520 be far less food waste if you're buying in smaller amounts. Right. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.359 The other the other side of that, though is um 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.200 if you're you know, eco friendly or eco conscious, um, 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.520 you're one of the things that you're probably trying to 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.320 avoid is packaging as well. And if you buy smaller 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.760 amounts of food, that means you buy more packages. And 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.959 think about that, and if you have smaller amounts of food. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.760 That means you have to go to the store more often, 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.440 and then you may have to drive more often, which 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.880 doesn't matter if you're riding a bike or something like that, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.160 but if you're driving a car, then you're burning those 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:35.160 gallons of gas that you might necessarily not have been anyway. Yeah, 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.480 you like you get in your old seventy to pickup 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.800 truck and drive the twelve miles to get like a 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.359 pint of Mannames. You have to stuff and fill up 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.439 at least once during that. So can we talk a 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.119 little bit about food waste though, Yeah, because it's a 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.440 it's a pretty big thing. Like if you have no refrigerator, 0:17:53.200 --> 0:18:00.080 the chances of your food spoiling just simply increase if 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:05.240 you have no refrigerator. Well not so apparently, according to 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:09.400 a report, and less develop countries they have no refrigerators, 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.879 they experience less food spoilers. Bam, you just faced me, 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.040 because they're like they're eating what they need. You know, 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.919 they're not going to Sam's Club and buying seven dred 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.040 chicken McNuggets to put in the freezer. I hear that, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.280 And I guess if somebody who defridges uses the developing 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.399 world as a model for their food consumption. Yeah. I 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.320 wonder what hang ups there are though that would keep 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.199 you from successfully doing that, or if it is just 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.760 entirely possible to just watch how you're eating enough so 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.080 you don't have very much food waste. Let's talk food 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:49.520 waste finally, Uh, in developing countries, post harvest losses of 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:55.320 food grains can reach his high dude in developing countries, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.080 and that a sad statistic. Yeah, because one of the 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.240 things that makes that, so, said Chuck, is that that 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:06.840 food has been harvested and is ready to go. So 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.159 not only is it ready to go, it just doesn't 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:15.000 make it to somebody's stomach. Um, all of the energy 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:20.879 used to produce, harvest, and transport that food has already 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:22.760 been used as well. Yeah, I didn't think about that. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.760 So that's a huge waste there too, since as food waste, 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.600 you add a double bummer onto every bummer that I expressed. 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.720 I'm good at it. The US spends about a billion 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.800 dollars a year to dispose of food waste in this 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.199 country a billion dollars a year, and the e p 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.240 A says that food leftovers are the single largest part 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:45.040 of our waste stream by weight. Right, they make up 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.919 about twelve percent of municipal landfills, which are pretty awful 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:54.520 word in and of themselves, because municipal landfills are responsible 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:59.119 for about thirty four of methane emissions globally, or at 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.920 least in the US, and methane is twenty one times 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.120 more damaging as a greenhouse gas than CEO two. Yeah, 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.240 and all that food waste is producing like tons of methane, yeah, 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.399 which is I don't understand why we're not trapping that 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.160 methane and burning it off as energy. I know there 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.520 are some pilot projects, but I don't understand why it's 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:21.120 not a bigger thing now. Yeah, didn't we study something 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:25.240 about cow farts? Yeah? I saw that. I seemed that 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.600 rings a bell from the past. Yeah. Livestock is a 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:32.800 huge contributor to methane emissions UM, and nobody knows what 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:34.560 to do about it. But there were plans to kind 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.480 of try to trap it and burn it for electricity. 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.680 I think there was a farmer who was doing he 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:40.840 was using cow poop or something. I think that Dirty 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.680 Jobs episode did something like that. I definitely remember looking 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.080 at that UM. But I agree methane, let's trap it. 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.600 Hey there's a T shirt. So yeah, so food waste 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:56.040 is a I thought it was. The potential was increased 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.639 without a refrigerator. You've opened my eyes here. Um. But 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.399 another those those double bummers that I did, add the 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:07.080 more packaging and more trips to the store. Um again 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:11.159 if you have if you lived near a store, you 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.480 can bike two or something like that. Um that gets 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.520 around that. And then also if you are one of 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:21.520 those zero waste people, like have you heard of b Johnson? Yeah, 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:25.919 she's pretty remarkable. What's her website? Uh? It is zero 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:28.679 Waste Home. Yeah, she's one of these people that is 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:33.159 doing like the family experiment, like let's see what we 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.520 can really do and putting it, putting it on a blog. 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.160 She Um, I think her family is the one that 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:43.560 has produced a court of waste in a year, a 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.120 quart of trash in a in a year. Everything else 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.359 is reused. She has five rs. You think your three 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:53.719 RS are worthwhile reduced reuse, recycle? What are her other two? Refuse? 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.280 So she's saying like, even if it's free, you know 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.520