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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Frottle. We are

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Speaker 2: coming toy line from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

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Speaker 2: six am Eastern as usual, We've got an absolute jam

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Speaker 2: pack show. Might this be a November to Remember in

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Speaker 2: college football? Now it's become survive in advance, like tom

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Speaker 2: as I used to say. And you know, I understand

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Speaker 2: that the committee at some point claims to have you know,

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Speaker 2: they reserve the right to have the eye test influenced

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Speaker 2: their decisions. But at the end of the day, they

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Speaker 2: don't ask Cole just how many how many games did

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Speaker 2: you win? And how many games did you lost? Did

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Speaker 2: you lose?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Today was a little bit of a whole home day

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Speaker 2: in college football except for one game. I mean, my god,

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Speaker 2: if you wake up on the West coast and you

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Speaker 2: know you got a basically a nine am kickoff at

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Speaker 2: Fox Big Noon Saturday, they were out in Iowa. But

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you this Indiana penn State game was

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Speaker 2: abute because it started out. It started out well, you

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Speaker 2: had a situation where you know, they always have these

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Speaker 2: sideline reporters ask coaches questions, and I mean I think

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Speaker 2: the coaches would rather, you know, have three root canals

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Speaker 2: along with it. Over the years, There's been a few debacles.

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Speaker 2: I've ever Lloyd Carr bagging on him, and Greg Popovich

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Speaker 2: has never been too friendly. But so Kurt Signetti comes

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Speaker 2: out of the tunnel and the reporter asked him, what

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Speaker 2: are you concerned about today? There's nothing concerns me. We

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Speaker 2: gotta go out and it's time to time to go

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Speaker 2: to battle. And well, you know, in Indiana, team's never

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Speaker 2: won here at Penn State. Well, this team has never

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Speaker 2: played here at Penn State. Actually a very good response,

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Speaker 2: because both were right. Even though the Hoosias had never

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Speaker 2: won at Beaver Stadium, this version of Indiana ate the

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Speaker 2: same program that holds the FBS record wait for it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: for most all time losses. This one's got two dudes.

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Speaker 2: A wide receiver that will be competing on Sundays, two

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Speaker 2: cornerbacks that will be competing on Sundays. A quarterback who's otherworldly.

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Speaker 2: I believe in his ability to be great when the

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Speaker 2: moment demands greatness. Fernanda Mendoza, go ahead, book your trip

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Speaker 2: to the Heisman ceremony in December. You're going to be

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Speaker 2: there if you're not. Somebody's first in line for a

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Speaker 2: frontal a botomy. This is a star, a human being

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Speaker 2: in every respect, the way he talks, the way he

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Speaker 2: conducts himself, the way he delivers the biggest moment of

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Speaker 2: the season in the game's dying minutes, when the heat

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Speaker 2: is hot it's hard to breathe seemingly completely unbothered by

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Speaker 2: a four point deficit in a very hostile road environment.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure why cow I let him out, but

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Speaker 2: they did eighty yards in a minute, in fifteen seconds,

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Speaker 2: making multiple big time throws and give you again. Charlie

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Speaker 2: Becker made an incredible catch. He was well covered and

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Speaker 2: set up Indiana deep in Penn State territory. But then

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Speaker 2: that everybody will forget that because of what Omar Cooper did,

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Speaker 2: channeling his inner Mikhail Barishnikoff as he danced along the

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Speaker 2: and won. Take a bow, my friend. It's the catch

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Speaker 2: of the year. It may be one of the greatest catches.

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Speaker 2: The last time I heard a nation collectively gasped. Was

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Speaker 2: probably Doug Flutie to Gerard Fhalen Notre Dame, Boston College,

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four. Google at your knuckleheads. Unreal, They've only

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Speaker 2: showed it in a million highlights. But this was a

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Speaker 2: catch of the year. This secured the win for Indiana,

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Speaker 2: keeping them perfect on the campaign. And it looked like

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Speaker 2: this game. I may have actually got to Kurtzy Netty

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Speaker 2: just a little bit because he admitted he'd never seen

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Speaker 2: anything like that in his career. However, used to it,

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Speaker 2: Indiana fans something else, you know, you don't really see

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Speaker 2: a top ten matchup in Lubbock, Texas. But I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what, give it up to Texas Tech. This is

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Speaker 2: Mike Leech. He's long gone and he's no longer with us,

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Speaker 2: but his memory lives. But it's been fifteen years since

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Speaker 2: answer to the call ten point favorites over BYU were

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Speaker 2: didn't know it was this dominant. I may have underrated

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Speaker 2: how excellent they are. By you entered the game with

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Speaker 2: the nation's fourteenth ranked rushing attack, could only manage a

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Speaker 2: Fourteen tackles, one tackle for lost, picked off a pass,

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Speaker 2: had a fumble recovery. Other than that, not much. Final

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Speaker 2: score twenty nine to seven and Texas tex Texas Tech

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Speaker 2: completely flat. Mccouver's Oregon took care of Iowa again. Another

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Speaker 2: another close game, but not a Oregon. Excuse me, not

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Speaker 2: not a you know a result that's gonna surprise a

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Speaker 2: of fifties. Bama holds serve again UH and Texas A

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Speaker 2: but Texas Tech's really got my got my uh or attention,

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Speaker 2: even though they have one loss. But you know what

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Speaker 2: I really want to talk about. I really observe Penn

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Speaker 2: maybe even more good jobs out crazy jobs Florida, LSU,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State. I can't even think of them all right

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Speaker 2: now schools that are looking for head coaches. One certainly

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Speaker 2: top rope here and I am going to strongly suggest

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Speaker 2: to the Penn State brass you seriously consider Terry Smith.

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Speaker 2: You're a current Penn State interim coach. And before you

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Speaker 2: drive off the road or ask you if ive you know,

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Speaker 2: gotten into Grandpa's coff suerup, hear me out. You know,

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Speaker 2: back in nineteen sixty five, Penn State had a coach

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Speaker 2: by the name of Rip Engle. He's been there fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and four games, and decided to step down.

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Speaker 2: And Penn State was in a bit of a quandary,

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Speaker 2: come over from Brown University actually worked for Rip Engle

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Speaker 2: at Brown University god with the name of Joe Paterno.

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Speaker 2: Joe Paturna was an assistant on staff and he got

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Speaker 2: don't need to revise that history. But let's face it,

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Speaker 2: Joe Paterno, Joe pa had one time had a statue.

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Speaker 2: Now James Franklin has gone and he won the same

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Speaker 2: And you're gonna hear all the uh, the usual candidates.

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Speaker 2: I mean, somebody threw Urban Myer's name out there last week.

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Speaker 2: Don't plump me on that one. I don't have anything

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Speaker 2: I know what happened to Michigan State two years ago

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Speaker 2: when he visited East Lansing. If you don't believe me again,

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Speaker 2: get yourself a goal compress. But I don't think he

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Speaker 2: has any interest in Penn State. You know thin you

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Speaker 2: can hear about Joe Brady and Matt Campbell and Clark

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Speaker 2: Key at Georgia Tech and other coach Mike Elco. You

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Speaker 2: think he'd really leave Texas A and M I don't

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Speaker 2: know why I would do that. He doesn't have he's

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Speaker 2: coach roots, I get it, but he's pretty stilt at

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M Jeff Brohm. Well they got beat

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Speaker 2: by Calladay, Eli drink Winz. So they got beat today.

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Speaker 2: So anybody you replace, I mean, and then Matt Rule

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Speaker 2: extension and so do the aforementioned hurt signetty. So why

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Speaker 2: not instead of you know, goofing around and going through

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Speaker 2: this big, long process revolving to a process, you might

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Speaker 2: have a guy right on your staff. Give him a

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Speaker 2: three year deal. I think players will stay with the program.

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Speaker 2: They play hard from this guy. I've listened to him

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Speaker 2: in interviews. He's got deep Penn State ties. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about Terry Smith. He's a former wide receiver played there

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Speaker 2: four years, eighteen seven and ninety one. His nickname was Superfly.

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Speaker 2: He's a well regarded assistant. He's been on the coaching

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Speaker 2: staff twelve years, including as an associate head coach, So

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Speaker 2: there's going to be none of these candidates and understand

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Speaker 2: the program's culture and traditions currently better than Terry Smith.

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Speaker 2: By the way, as a defensive recruiting coordinator, Terry Smith's

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Speaker 2: been absolutely instrumental in securing twelve consecutive top twenty five

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Speaker 2: recruiting classes for Penn State. You think that might help

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Speaker 2: stabilize recruiting during the transition to a new head coach.

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Speaker 2: He's also proven his medal as a way above average

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Speaker 2: of developing NFL talent at the cornerback position. None of

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Speaker 2: his players since twenty fifteen have been drafted. He also

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Speaker 2: has an act for building deep, strong relationships with many

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Speaker 2: players on the current roster, so that could help retain

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Speaker 2: talent and provide stability. There are turbulent times in Penn

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Speaker 2: I get it that Matt and Rule play there a

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Speaker 2: long time, but he's not coming anyway. But think about this,

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Speaker 2: Just think about it, Penn State. I told you how

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Speaker 2: arguments against Terry Smith has very limited head coaching experience. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: his only head coaching experience came at Gateway High School.

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Speaker 2: I believe Gateway High schools in Florida. I think he

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Speaker 2: won one hundred and one games in eleven seasons. But

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Speaker 2: by the name of Don Shula. You can even do

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Speaker 2: in the midst of incredible turbulence. I know that people

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Speaker 2: that be a positive? He's gonna come in. He's already

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Speaker 2: around Penn State. And why do I say that works

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Speaker 2: for him? Because he doesn't bring in someone else's habits

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Speaker 2: don't hire Terry Smith. Watch some players hit the transfer board.

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Speaker 2: Watch it. Okay, he took over a very unenviable situation

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Speaker 2: you don't know what his game to impact is. He

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Speaker 2: was a position coach and a recruiter, but how's he

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Speaker 2: going to be in his strategic decision making and leadership.

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Speaker 2: I thought I saw enough of that these last two

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking at you, Patcraft, he's the ad at

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Speaker 2: Penn State. I know you're monitoring how Smith's leadership and

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Speaker 2: How's coaching, you know, is having an effect on the

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Speaker 2: players are playing hard for him and competing against tough

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Speaker 2: competition that should be crucial. That should be crucial in

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Speaker 2: the above, well, even referees now figure into the mix

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Speaker 2: because they have tendencies just like umpires who call balls

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Speaker 5: Doing good?

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Speaker 3: Bernie?

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Speaker 2: How are you good?

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Speaker 2: We had you on before the season, and now we're

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Speaker 8: Okay, so off the top, it's not a good home

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Speaker 8: They're the highest percentage of those penalties called over the

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Speaker 8: that combination of false start offensive holding combination. Forty six

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Speaker 8: That's compared to the league average, it's thirty eight point

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Speaker 8: The Eagles, conversely, just thirty two percent of those penalties.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting too, because you know, you don't call

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Speaker 2: they've got some new defensive reinforcements, as you say, some

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, there were two and zero lost season they

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Speaker 8: Claimont was the referreverw that night. The Eagles with three

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Speaker 8: they've had defensive reinforcements, fire some trades. You know Howie

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Speaker 8: I like the Eagles a lot on Monday Night.

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Speaker 2: Well you look, green Bay's five two and one, and

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Speaker 8: Yes, Allen X, he's something he stood he beginning twenty

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Speaker 8: twelve straight up seventy percent, twenty four and sixteen against

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Speaker 8: the spread sixty percent. This divisional home teams that Seattle

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Speaker 8: four against the spread in Allen X's career. So the

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Speaker 8: numbers trying to speak to themselves. Excellent home field advantage crew.

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Speaker 8: And the thing is Alan eck came from the John

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Speaker 10: So ECK is.

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Speaker 8: Essentially a continuation of what John Hosky's crew does. And

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Speaker 8: the numbers, you know, the numbers detail that I kind

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Speaker 8: I mean, if you look at a team what they need,

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Speaker 8: definitely have an officiating advantage tomorrow and it's a tough

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Speaker 2: So again, it's I know he's a good alan ACKs

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Speaker 2: you get a feeling the Seahawks. This Seahawks win the game,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I predicted twenty seven to twenty three. I mean

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Speaker 8: I like the Coginals team I'm really doing in pretty

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Speaker 8: much every game this year. If you look at that record,

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Speaker 8: like they come down to that one position late. Unfortunately

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Speaker 8: But they're a good team to again, We'll see what

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Speaker 8: happens tomorrow. That's why they play the games, all right.

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Speaker 2: Talking with Joe Gibbs NFL ref Stats, he's a devoting

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Speaker 2: analyzing the types of penalties referees call their pendencies, whether

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Speaker 2: He likes to blow the whistle a lot. What are

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so you're damn right about that. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 8: offense and special teams. That's well abobb. The league averaged

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Speaker 8: So these guys go above and beyond on like I said,

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Speaker 8: of that team. They ranked thirtieth in offensive penalties per

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Speaker 8: ranked second in penalty per game in those two And

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Speaker 8: the charge of that issue is on the offensive line

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Speaker 8: this year, which is kind of to be expected. And

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Speaker 8: I think that's going to be a problem tomorrow. And

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's huge.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Jim Harbor said it himself in the off season.

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Speaker 8: Other teams look at wide receivers as weapons. He looked

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Speaker 8: Those guys set the tone for the entire team. We've

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Speaker 8: guys have gone now, and you've got a Pittsburgh team

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Speaker 8: that's coming in. They found the mojo last week. Surfi

433
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Speaker 8: Stadium is going to be ninety percent Steelers fans. It's

434
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Speaker 8: just going to be Chargers don't have as many fans

435
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Speaker 8: to begin with, so it's going to it's going to

436
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Speaker 8: essentially be a home game for the Steelers. Charges offensive

437
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Speaker 8: lines reshuffled. I like the Steelers again tomorrow. I like

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Speaker 8: the I like the dog here I say the road dog,

439
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Speaker 8: but I'd say they're the home dog. I like the

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Speaker 8: Steelers outright and kind of a grinding out sort of game.

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Speaker 8: You know, you've got Mike Common versus Jim Harbor, and

442
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Speaker 8: you got offensive coordinators Greg Roman and Arthur Smith. These

443
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Speaker 8: guys aren't looking to blow anyone out. It's going to

444
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Speaker 8: be a grinding sward of game. So taking the points

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Speaker 8: to the Steelers is the way I'd look.

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Speaker 2: Well, and not for nothing, if memory serves, the Steelers

447
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Speaker 2: are the least penalized team in the NFL. To me,

448
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Speaker 2: that matters because let's say a team gets eighty yards

449
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Speaker 2: and penalties a game, that's like given the other team

450
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Speaker 2: eighty yards of offense. So does that during your prediction

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Speaker 2: as well the fact that Pittsburgh is I believe the

452
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Speaker 2: least penalized team in the league.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's different ways you can do it. People look

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Speaker 8: at total penalties. I do the penalties per game, but

455
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Speaker 8: they're in the bottom five and it's where you commit them. Like,

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Speaker 8: committing penalties is not necessarily a bad thing. I talked

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Speaker 8: to some of the teams about this, that committing penalties,

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Speaker 8: if you're on defense on a say first and ten

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Speaker 8: and you commit a defensive holding, that's actually a smart

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Speaker 8: thing to do. So they can be misleading. But the Packers,

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Speaker 8: I mean sorry, the Steelers offense has been super efficient

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Speaker 8: with Rogers, like I said, the thirtieth and penalties per

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Speaker 8: game average, so they don't get behind the change too much,

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Speaker 8: and they really can't afford to because they're not explosive.

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Speaker 8: Explosive and to become those you know, full start off

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Speaker 8: into holding penalties. And I think that'll play a big

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Speaker 8: part of it tomorrow night. Given their records, so about

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Speaker 8: this season with Rogers in charge.

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Speaker 2: So Joe, we talked about Alan Eck and Seattle being

470
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Speaker 2: very favorable to home teams. Land Clark is actually very

471
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Speaker 2: favorable to road teams. The Rams visit San Francisco Sunday

472
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Speaker 2: five and a half point favorites. I got to tell you,

473
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Speaker 2: home divisional dogs this year have been absolute nails. How

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Speaker 2: does land Clark in his career and his style and

475
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Speaker 2: tendencies perhaps favor one of these teams on Sunday since

476
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Speaker 2: historically land Clark it seems to be favorable to road teams.

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Speaker 2: But man, is that baked into the number here?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I don't know if I was making a bit. I

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Speaker 8: don't know if to make it even I who Land

481
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Speaker 8: clock is, but I do and I can tell you

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Speaker 8: the numbers right now. So for his career home teams,

483
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Speaker 8: thirty four fifty one and two against the just fourty

484
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Speaker 8: against the spread. That's the second work over the last

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Speaker 8: five five years. That includes two and five against the

486
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Speaker 8: spread this season. So this guy likes to play the villain.

487
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Speaker 8: He's kind of like Sean Hockeyley. So you know that's

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Speaker 8: just those are the numbers with that the Niners all

489
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Speaker 8: time with Lane Clark are one to three, including zero

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Speaker 8: to two straight up and against the spread when they're

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Speaker 8: play at home. The Rams are one to zero on

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Speaker 8: the road all time with Lang Clark. They're not a

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Speaker 8: huge sample size, but those are the numbers. Again, these

494
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 8: guys are above and beyond the setising penalties via offense

495
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Speaker 8: and special teams seventy percent of their penalties. And that

496
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Speaker 8: is big because the RAMS ranks is the least penalized

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Speaker 8: offensive unit in the NFL so far this season, and

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Speaker 8: that's huge with a crew like this that looks to

499
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Speaker 8: call those offensive holding false starts, legal shift stuff like that.

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Speaker 8: The Rams are super efficient. Mcveigh's teams always have been,

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Speaker 8: and so this year is no different. They're just taking

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Speaker 8: it to a different level. Also, the Rams are number

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Speaker 8: one beneficiary of automatic first downs via penalty. By that,

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Speaker 8: I mean you know, getting those defensive pass interferes call

505
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Speaker 8: the legal contact, defensive holding calls. These guys get a

506
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Speaker 8: lot of cheap oddage via big plays down the field. Now,

507
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Speaker 8: Clark's crew doesn't call as many of those defensive penalties

508
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Speaker 8: as most and so something has to give that tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: But you gotta bang up forty nine as defense. I

510
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Speaker 8: like the Rams in this one. I like them to

511
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Speaker 8: avenge that Thursday night loss which was inexpl inexplicable back

512
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Speaker 8: in I think it was like Week five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shanhan always gets up for the Rams. But there

514
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Speaker 2: is one factor in this game. I think there's gonna

515
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Speaker 2: be points, Joe. From what I understand land Clark, you

516
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Speaker 2: really can't touch the quarterback if you're in a land

517
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Speaker 2: Clark game because you're either gonna be a roughing passer

518
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Speaker 2: or unnecessary of roughness.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, these guys they ranked I think they ranked second

520
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Speaker 8: run this year in roughings, and they've always consistently ranked

521
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Speaker 8: highly for unnecessary roughness. Now that dog back on that

522
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Speaker 8: this year, but they picked up the slack with the

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Speaker 8: roughing apostle holes as you mentioned. So yeah, these guys

524
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Speaker 8: are big on those two categories, one way or the other.

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Speaker 2: Talking with Joe Gibbs NFL Refs Stats, Joe, let's jump

526
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Speaker 2: to the Minnesota Ravens game, another home dog. Both teams

527
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Speaker 2: looked pretty good last week. Minnesota looked very good. I thought,

528
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Speaker 2: really surprised me the way they strolled into Detroit and

529
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Speaker 2: took care of business. Now they are hosting a very

530
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Speaker 2: hungry Baltimore Ravens team who has designs on not only

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Speaker 2: getting back into the playoff hunt, but perhaps even even

532
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Speaker 2: winning their division. They will be the game will be

533
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Speaker 2: refereed by the aforementioned Sean hockey Ley. What are your

534
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Speaker 2: thoughts about this contest in Minnesota.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, Hockey's pretty much managed to run a foul

536
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Speaker 8: of every team and every fan base in his career US.

537
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Speaker 8: I mean, he really has. And now the only positive

538
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Speaker 8: here is not a prim time game, so I went,

539
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Speaker 8: you want to look for as much camera time. But

540
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Speaker 8: having said that, the bunkings of one team that has

541
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Speaker 8: a good record with Hockey le the bunkers of five

542
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Speaker 8: and zero all time with Shoran hockey Ley. That's a

543
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Speaker 8: small family size, but I thought I put that in there.

544
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Speaker 8: But in generally he's not a good home field referee

545
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Speaker 8: home teams is just forty three percent against the spread

546
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Speaker 8: in his career. Again, he's another one where big focus

547
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Speaker 8: on that combination of offense and special teams penalties. Special

548
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 8: teams penalties are up this year significantly versus previous years

549
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 8: because of that new Kypoff rule and Hockey Leagu's crew

550
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 8: co ranked number one in special teams penalies per game,

551
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Speaker 8: so keep that in mind for tomorrow. That generally leads

552
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Speaker 8: to less than ideal starting field position, and the Vikings

553
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 8: have struggled with special teams penalties this season. So a

554
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 8: bunch of other stuff with Hockey League. I mean, look,

555
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 8: everyone knows this guy that, or they don't know him that.

556
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 8: They've seen him on a lot of these games on

557
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Speaker 8: prime time, really getting in front of the cameras and

558
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 8: poking it up for that. But you know, it's the

559
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 8: same old thing with him. Unnecessary rough They ranked number

560
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 8: one for legal contact ineligible man down field. I like

561
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Speaker 8: Baltimore in this game. Minnesota hasn't won back to back

562
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Speaker 8: games this season, you know that that yet to put

563
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 8: together two wins in a row. And I had to wonder,

564
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Speaker 8: I was last week an outlier or was that the

565
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Speaker 8: sign of things to come? Whereas Baltimore, I trust, Lamar's

566
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Speaker 8: record against the NFC is well documented. I mean, I

567
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Speaker 8: like Baltimore in this spot. Not being high on Baltimore

568
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Speaker 8: for a couple of years, and I do like him tomorrow.

569
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Speaker 2: Do you think they cut Baltimore covers the four and

570
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Speaker 2: a half?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I do. I mean, I said, you know, twenty

572
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Speaker 8: eight twenty three, somewhere in that range, you know, thirty

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Speaker 8: to twenty four. I think it's going to be a

574
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Speaker 8: little bit high scoring. But yeah, in the end, I like,

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Speaker 8: I look pretty trust J. J. McCarthy or Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 12: I mean J. J.

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Speaker 8: McCarty's had one and a half good games in his career.

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Speaker 8: Well one in the quarter because he had a good

579
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Speaker 8: Monday night game against the Bed the last quarter. He

580
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Speaker 8: had a solid game last week. But that's really it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're not wrong, but the game, the matchup I'm

582
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Speaker 2: looking at is what is the Brian Florence, the defensive

583
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Speaker 2: coordinator for Minnesota, what defensive scheme does he dial up

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Speaker 2: against the Ravens to keep Yeah, any Jackson in check?

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Speaker 11: Is he doesn't?

586
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Speaker 5: He has experience?

587
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Speaker 8: Like that's the thing. Florence has experience against Lamark because

588
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 8: he used to be the defensive coordinator for Pittsburgh. So

589
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 8: there is that angle lere. Look, I've been high in

590
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Speaker 8: Baltimore for a couple of years now and then back

591
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Speaker 8: to full health. You know, there's an old thing in football,

592
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Speaker 8: and id you say it, Bernie, It's not who you play,

593
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Speaker 8: it's when you play them. And unfortunately in Minnesota. They

594
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Speaker 8: they're playing. They're playing Baltimore at the worst possible time.

595
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Speaker 8: Botimore is coming in off extra rest, they're relatively healthy.

596
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Speaker 8: They kind of got on.

597
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Speaker 3: A bit of a role.

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Speaker 8: He I do like Baltimore tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Joe just got about a minute. You have any thoughts

600
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Speaker 2: in the reds Almost called in the Redskins. The Commander

601
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Speaker 2: is hosting the Lions Lins lay in seven and a

602
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Speaker 2: half now, Just so people know, in fifty five games,

603
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: the Lions have not lost two in a row under

604
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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell. So they lost last night. The question is

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Speaker 2: they cover that seven and a half and they'll be

606
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Speaker 2: facing a backup quarterback at Marcus Mariota.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's funny we're talking about that homefield referee. The

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Speaker 8: referee for that game, Scott Novak, who's the was homefield

609
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Speaker 8: referee in the NFL since since his debut in twenty nineteen,

610
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Speaker 8: So the lines had that going for him. No, that's

611
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 8: a terrible homefield referee and home teams is just two

612
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Speaker 8: and five against the spread with him this season. Again,

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Speaker 8: he's a big folks on offensive penalties. There's a lot

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Speaker 8: of issues with Washington as far as the cohesion with

615
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Speaker 8: new quarterback players being out the lines are offensive jugger

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Speaker 8: on it, and they're very disciplined from a penalty perspective.

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Speaker 8: So it all shakes up verynestly for Detroit tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Joe, great stuff. Appreciate all your hard work and research.

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Speaker 2: Definitely gonna want to get you on later in the

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Speaker 2: season as we head toward, you know, the playoff matchups

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Speaker 2: on that type of thing.

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Speaker 8: You sounds good, buddy, and good luck tomorrow you too.

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Speaker 2: That's Joe Gibbs, NFL ref Stats, works for Warren Sharp

624
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Speaker 2: Rights for many magazines, and he's a guy who just boy,

625
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: you just turn them loose, and you listen to his

626
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: commentary and his knowledge of referees and their tendencies and

627
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: their history backed by none data is unsurpassed. All Right,

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Speaker 2: we are twenty minutes away from twelve midnight here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas where I live. The clock will strike twelve

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Speaker 2: midnight literally perhaps the same in your time zone, but

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Speaker 2: certainly figuratively, it's the midnight hour for all of us.

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Speaker 2: And it's the callers who are the stars. Eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine six six three six nine eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox. You'll call in, You'll give

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Speaker 2: your thoughts and I'm very much looking forward to hearing them.

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Speaker 2: We have three as usual, three pretty provocative topics, or

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Speaker 2: maybe not super provocative, but the type of topics that

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Speaker 2: should draw a range of response. So we will set

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Speaker 2: that up coming up here. As the as I said,

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Speaker 2: the Midnight Hour was now nineteen minutes away. Midnight hour

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Speaker 2: is figurative, meaning you get the last word. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Countdown to Kickoff resent It by BETMGM every Saturday and

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Coming up, we set up the topics the

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Speaker 2: midnight Hour. We are eighteen minutes away eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: nine to nine on Fox. We want to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to your line from Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back in the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are twelve minutes away from the midnight hour. It

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Speaker 2: turns midnight literally here in Las Vegas in twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven nine nine, six six three six nine,

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Speaker 2: And the midnight hours a figurative thing too. It means

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Speaker 2: you get the last laugh, no matter where you are

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Speaker 2: in the world, and we do get calls from around

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Speaker 2: the world. It is to bend that hour and you

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Speaker 2: get the last word. All right. I want to start

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Speaker 2: with the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 13: Now.

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Speaker 2: They're talking about Lebron returning here, maybe as soon as

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Speaker 2: mid November. So depending on where you live, it's either

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Speaker 2: November eighth right now from where I sit, or it's

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Speaker 2: November ninth. So I don't know what mid November means.

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Speaker 2: November fifteen, sixteen twentieth, I told Mark Medina, and we'll

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Speaker 2: be talking to him in about an hour. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's coming back to December first, but that could

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Speaker 2: be wrong. But here's the point. This is going to

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Speaker 2: be interesting. Lakers are off to a pretty good start.

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Speaker 2: They're competitive. They were seven and two and then they

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00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: got beat There's seven and three in their first ten.

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00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: Lucas looked out standing. And you know, when given the opportunity,

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00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: Austin reeves or they're all ball dependent. And you've heard

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Speaker 2: me say this before. Okay, the Lakers are a franchise

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00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: of eras. You had all the way back to the

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Speaker 2: George Mike and era when they were in Minneapolis. Then

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Speaker 2: he had the Jerry West Elgin Baylor era, then the

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Speaker 2: Showtime Lakers with Magic and Kareem and James Worthy, and

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00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: then that led to the Shaq and Kobe dynasty, and

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Speaker 2: then Kobe and the pau Gasol era, and then finally

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Speaker 2: Lebron James, which I've called the clown era. Now I

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00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 2: believe that Luka doncic era has begun, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: call it the no Bs Era. It's not really Showtime

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Speaker 2: and it's not a clown era, and I don't see

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Speaker 2: any dynasty coming. But I call it the Nobs era

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Speaker 2: because Lucas a band about his business and the team,

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Speaker 2: and I think JJ Reddi's doing a good job. So

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Speaker 2: what happens when Lebron comes back? Have you noticed. It's

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00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: eerily he's almost conspicuously missing. It's almost like, you know,

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Speaker 2: he was never a Laker, to tell you the truth,

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Speaker 2: He's no longer the centerpiece. That's obvious. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that they need Lebron to sell tickets anymore. And when

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Speaker 2: Lebron returns to the lineup, the question I have for you,

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Speaker 2: man that hour callers, is this gonna be a positive

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Speaker 2: or negative? Is he gonna screw this up or take

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Speaker 2: a back seat. Luca's got to have the ball to

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Speaker 2: do what Luca does, and really so does Lebron. And

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Speaker 2: I know Lebron's not afraid to pass, but you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be human if his feelings weren't hurt. And I just

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Speaker 2: don't know what it's gonna look like or feel like.

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Speaker 2: And then he got Austin Reeves. What's gonna be like

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Speaker 2: with all three up on the floor. So when Lebron

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Speaker 2: returns to the Lakers, whether it's mid November or December

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Speaker 2: or whatever, because the Lakers are doing well, is this

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Speaker 2: gonna be a positive or a negative? Might Lebron even

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Speaker 2: screw this up? Eight seven, seven, nine nine six sixty

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Speaker 2: three six nine And give me your thoughts are you're

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Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing him return or do you care

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Speaker 2: if he returns Jerry Jones, I just get the biggest

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Speaker 2: kick out of I think he's playing everybody for fools.

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Speaker 2: The man is a billion Come on, he built that stadium.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's fashionable for people to bash him.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder, though, if you can't rule this out,

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Speaker 2: is impossible. Jerry Jones might get the last laugh on

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Speaker 2: the Michael Parsons trade. Now, it's far too soon to

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Speaker 2: definitely say anything because the outcome was gonna depend on

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Speaker 2: Dallas's team success in the future, particularly if they ever

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Speaker 2: have designs in winning a championship, and the same with

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Speaker 2: green Bay. I expect green Bay get beat by Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: either gonna be five with five to three and one

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Speaker 2: and Dallas. Expect Dallas they're gonna buy this week, so

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Speaker 2: it's not like green Bay's running away with it. I

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Speaker 2: get that Mike is playing at a high level, but

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Speaker 2: you really couldn't pay Micah. You'd had half your shower

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Speaker 2: cap and three guys he acquired draft picks Jerry did.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, the Quinnon Williams trade got

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys a phenomenal player and not just renting for

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Speaker 2: one year. He's under contract through twenty twenty seven. He's

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Speaker 2: a tremendous pass rusher twenty eight years old. So look,

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Speaker 2: we'll see how that operates. But what I'd really like

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Speaker 2: to know if you think that it's possible, Jerry Jones

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Speaker 2: might have the last laugh on the Michael Parson's trade.

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Speaker 2: Just the way it's fleshing out, Green Bay is not

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Speaker 2: exactly running away with it. They get Quinn Williams. You

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Speaker 2: know where I'm going with that. So number one Lakers

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Speaker 2: are doing pretty well. What happens when Lebron comes back?

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Speaker 2: Is it a positive or negative? Do you want to

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Speaker 2: see if you care? And then Jerry Jones in the

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Speaker 2: Micah trade, it's going to be two or three years

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Speaker 2: before we really know this. Green Bay was a championship

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Speaker 2: this year. Okay, then you'd have to see that. That argument's

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Speaker 2: over with. But Mike Jerry still have the last laugh. Finally,

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Speaker 2: there was a play Friday night in the USC Northwestern

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Speaker 2: game that's got the world up in arms. Early in

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Speaker 2: the second quarter of SE's three touchdown victory, they executed

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Speaker 2: this wild, fake punk play that looked like a stroke

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Speaker 2: of genius kind of But according to the officiating analyst

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Speaker 2: Mike Pereira, the trick bay should have been called back

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Speaker 2: and the Trojans deserved a penalty. You saw what happened.

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Speaker 2: The punter comes on the field worring number eighty to

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Speaker 2: set up for a punt, but when he took the snap,

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Speaker 2: instead of booting it downfield, he threw a pass. Because

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Speaker 2: he's the backup quarterback. He's usc punter. Sam Johnson usually

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Speaker 2: wears number eighty, but he didn't throw that pass. It

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Speaker 2: was their third string quarterback, Sam Heward. So it's this

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Speaker 2: dirty pool that coach Riley played, dirty dirty pool, dirty

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Speaker 2: trick or just clever football. You can to defend coach

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Speaker 2: Riley or bag on him. The world's bagging on him.

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Speaker 2: So Lebron, you just screw it up when he comes back.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Jones, last laugh and Coach Riley fake punt, trick player,

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Speaker 2: dirty pool. KEEVI it locks the midnight hour. Bernie Friddle

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. That's right, you heard the band, The

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show keeps rolling right along. My name is

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddlewick Kenedy a line from the Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: studios here in Las Vegas. Take you up to three

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Speaker 2: am Pacific, six am Eastern. Three great topics. We've got

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Speaker 2: a situation where, well, Lebron's gonna be back soon, Lakers

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00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: doing well. Is it a positive or a negative? You

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Speaker 2: tell me. Jerry Jones, might he ultimately have the last

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00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: laugh of the Michael Parsons trade. And then Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 2: Friday Night marching out a punter who's really a backup

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Speaker 2: quarterback with the same number as the punter. Good trickery

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Speaker 2: or dirty pool, It's time for the Midnight Hour eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six,

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Speaker 2: six three sixty nine. Let's hear from you. We begin

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Speaker 2: with Andrew in Bakersfield. Andrew, welcome in. How are you?

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Speaker 10: I'm all right, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Bernie good Man?

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Speaker 10: Go ahead, Well, I got the leadoff spot. I'm show. Hey,

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Speaker 10: I'm just kidding there you go. I am a Lakers

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Speaker 10: fan and I'm looking forward to him coming back. The

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Speaker 10: sooner the better, Okay, And you know, I just hope

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Speaker 10: that it works out and he's a good teammate.

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Speaker 2: You that's very revealing. You hope that he works out

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Speaker 2: and he's a great teammate. And I don't want to

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Speaker 2: put origin the mouth spell out what you mean by

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Speaker 2: great teammate to find that for me in your world.

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Speaker 10: Well, you were talking about will it work, So if

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Speaker 10: it works, then he's a good teammate.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, Now to the next project.

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Speaker 10: What's the second one?

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Speaker 2: Well, Jerry Jones mighty have the last.

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Speaker 10: I think he might inadvertently if they can do well

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Speaker 10: this season. I think it was a good move to

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Speaker 10: get another deep, good defensive player. And then what was

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Speaker 10: the third one?

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Speaker 2: Well, Friday night, Lincoln Riley and USC pulled a fast one.

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Speaker 2: They looked like they were gonna punt number eight he's

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Speaker 2: the number of their putter. Turned out a second guy

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Speaker 2: had number eighty. He's a backup quarterback. Trickery Mike Perra

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Speaker 2: said they should have been assessed a penalty. I'll leave

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Speaker 2: it up to you guys, trickery or dirty pool.

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Speaker 10: Well, what does it say in the rule book? I

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Speaker 10: would that would be my forget the road book?

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Speaker 2: What do you think the game's over? And uh, I

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Speaker 2: mean we just got it. It happened and they got

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Speaker 2: away with it. I just wonder what your thoughts were.

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Speaker 10: I think it's okay the rules as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, appreciate you checking in. Andrew always uh,

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Speaker 2: Poppy and San diego back and second tonight, what do

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Speaker 2: you got for us? Poppy?

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Speaker 9: Okay, hold on, maybe I think Mark Medina I was

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Speaker 9: gonna like this. I can't wait for next Shaur. But look, Lebron,

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Speaker 9: James Horble, teammate, Morbo person fools gold right now, it's

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Speaker 9: looking good. The teams that can all telling us. But

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Speaker 9: you know, when it comes, very very talking, very negative energy,

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Speaker 9: the team's gonna be going down south. Don't buy them.

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00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 9: It's fool's gold right now, because when it comes, that

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Speaker 9: team ain't going nowhere. Everyone's pumping them up for no reason.

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Speaker 2: Bernie, you know what's interesting. She seems eerily They've played

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Speaker 2: ten games and it just seems like it's eerily silent.

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Speaker 2: He's not traveling, which I get is that's said, that's

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Speaker 2: their prerogatives. Maybe, but it's just he's always so omnipresident.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden he's not, and Luca Era has

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Speaker 2: begun and a gun. Like I said, Poppy in my open,

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Speaker 2: I said, it's a situation. Lebron's no longer the centerpiece.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they needed to sell tickets anymore. And

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Speaker 2: you know, ball dominant as is Luca as his Austin Breeves.

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Speaker 2: So when he gets back, he's just gonna work or

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Speaker 2: blow up. That's so you give it a good answer.

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Speaker 9: Go ahead, it's gonna blow up. It's gonna blow up,

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Speaker 9: and he's not gonna work out and onto the next one.

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Speaker 9: Jerry Jones Jerry ding Man Man, Jerry Jones, the most

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Speaker 9: entertaining person Cowboys, always on the spot line. We'll see,

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Speaker 9: we'll see. I mean I think he's, uh, you know,

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Speaker 9: having too many illusions. I think the Cowboys are in

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Speaker 9: the nineties. He's stuck in the twilight zone.

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Speaker 2: You know, all right, let's talk about us. He's game

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Speaker 2: Friday night. I'm sure you've heard about it. Uh you know,

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Speaker 2: they pulled the fast one with the punter. Go ahead.

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Speaker 9: I like that the trick or replays. They get away

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Speaker 9: with it good. They can get away with it sometimes,

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00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 9: you know, teams don't get called their way on the

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00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 9: other team. It's unport but hey, that's sports for you.

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Speaker 9: And uh, a little bit on my mind, Little Bernie Poppy, thanks,

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Speaker 9: I like some All the dogs on Mina is too.

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Speaker 3: Sanders.

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Speaker 9: Guys, you heard it here. First. He is gonna play,

856
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 9: He's gonna he'll take over the game. And I believe

857
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 9: Bernie he will. When he take over, he's going to

858
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 9: be the starting for the resisident for the Browns.

859
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: There's a hot take for you. So the Browns are

860
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: in New York. It's going to be very bad weather

861
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: Sunday in New York, New Jersey, and so you believe

862
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: they'll bench Dylan Gabriel Schudor will enter the game and

863
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 2: start the rest of the year. That's that's the poppy prediction.

864
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 9: That's my prediction, Bernie, Yes, I can.

865
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: Right, Poppy. Well, we'll see what happens. So all right,

866
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: appreciate chans always jam in Massachusetts, jump into the Frey

867
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: tonight you're bat And third.

868
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: Hey, how's going Lebron James? He might as well retire.

869
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: It's time for him to go because if he comes

870
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: back and they have problems after they're acting like a

871
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: well oiled machine. Now it's just going to be magnified

872
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: a thousand times over, especially in the media market like

873
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 3: La So I think.

874
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: So the opotive word there is this what do you

875
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: think is going to happen? We know Lebron basically has

876
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: to be ball dominant, so does Lucas Sodas Austin Reeves,

877
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: there's seven and three without him. Clearly the Luka doncic

878
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: era had started. I'm calling it the nobs era, and

879
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: uh so I get that if this has potentially the

880
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: potential to blow up, what do you think is going

881
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: to happen. I'm asking you to be Kreskin.

882
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: You it's it's it's gonna blow up. It's gonna blow up,

883
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: because like look at when Burrett at the end of

884
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: his season, when he had his bad back, no one

885
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: really knew how bad that was until afterwards. He came

886
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: out and played every night and he wasn't a whiner

887
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: in a crier. Well, Lebron's a whiner and a crier.

888
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: He just it's it's in his DNA. He can't help it.

889
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 3: And I just think he'll be more of a problem

890
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: than an asset.

891
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: So I kind of really agree with you. We'll see

892
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: what happens. I just he's always very passive aggressive, But yes,

893
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: all right, the Jerry Jones deal, Green Bay's not exactly

894
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 2: light in the world on fire and now he's got coinna.

895
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: One of your thoughts, I just.

896
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: Think, Jerry Jones, you know I told you this before.

897
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: He's got the idea of a house planning. He's not

898
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 3: going to come out smelling good like this, And who

899
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 3: really cares because Dallas isn't going anywhere anywhere anyway with

900
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: their records. So not this, not this year, not this year.

901
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: And on the on the rule thing, now, Bernie, I

902
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: haven't wrapped in fifteen years, but that is in the

903
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: rule book. It's rule two. When they talk go out

904
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: the field, and there's like a whole chapter on Jersey.

905
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: You just can't do that switch around like that. Now

906
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: they might get fined by the NCAA or however they

907
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: do it, but you just can't do that. But how

908
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: how are the officials supposed to know? You know, the

909
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 3: guy comes out and that shirt this, and that it

910
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: was just a bad, bad play. It looked good, but

911
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: it was illegal.

912
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: I think you know, Jim always appreciates your perspective.

913
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: One last question, Bernie, go ahead, one quick. Why did

914
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: they bounce the ad out of LSU. Remember we were

915
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: saying Kelly was going to finish the season. He didn't

916
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: even make the Seaton. But why is the ad out?

917
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: Because powerful people didn't want him there and they did

918
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: not want him having anything to do with hiring the

919
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: next regime. That's really kind of the short answer. Even

920
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: the governor weighed in, and so they take their football

921
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: very seriously down there in the Cajun country. But that

922
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: that's basically some very very powerful people in I placed

923
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: and said, we don't want that guy back making the

924
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: decision on who our next coach is going to be. Jim, Jim,

925
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: always appreciate you, man Martin and Orange California, welcome back in.

926
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: How are you.

927
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 14: Hey, How you doing tonight?

928
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: Man?

929
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: Good good to hear from me. What do that for us?

930
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, let me just attect given reverse order USC.

931
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 15: It doesn't surprise me that they're doing some jersey switching,

932
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 15: some uh safe plays. That's what their program has been

933
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 15: reduced to, running sakee plays against an IVY league from

934
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 15: the Midwest, like Northwestern. They're busy running the annexation of

935
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 15: Puerto Rico.

936
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 2: What great movies, little giants?

937
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, what what's what's next? Matt Leinert and Reggy

938
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 15: Bush is done in some jerseys so they can up

939
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 15: their play a little bit. I'm gonna tell you this,

940
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 15: instead of running sake plays, what they need to do.

941
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 15: I live in Orange County, Bernie the top Orange County.

942
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 15: None of them are going to USC They're going to

943
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 15: Ohio State.

944
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 14: They're going to schools like that.

945
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 15: He needed to work on that before he starts running

946
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 15: these damn trick plays.

947
00:49:59,160 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 14: Jerry Jones.

948
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 15: Jerry Jones has done two things right in his life.

949
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 15: One was finding that Glory Hall, not that one, Bernie,

950
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 15: the one with the oil. And the second thing was

951
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 15: hiring JJ.

952
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 5: That was his team.

953
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 15: He took them to the super Bowl. Since then and

954
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 15: since then nothing, He's made every decision wrong. He's paid

955
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 15: the wrong players, He's done the wrong moves. But I'll

956
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 15: tell you this, I agree with the Michael Parsons things

957
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 15: because that's the sexy position, but the real position is

958
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 15: the interior line, and he's trying to make a move

959
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 15: that way. I just don't have faith that Jerry Jones

960
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 15: can get it done. Last thing, Lakers. I'm a Lakers

961
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 15: Van Bernie. I'm in the land of the Lakers, and

962
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 15: I can't believe your colors are gonna have me decend Lebron.

963
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 5: Poppy.

964
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 15: You're in San Diego Noah Fense.

965
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 8: But you saying.

966
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 15: Lebron's a bad man. That man's never been in trouble.

967
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 15: He's a faithful husband, and he's a good brother. So

968
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 15: I don't know what you call a bad man, but

969
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 15: he's a good man. Being a bad teammates a different thing.

970
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 15: Don't assassinate a man's character because you don't like the ball,

971
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 15: the basketball he plays.

972
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: Will he be?

973
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 2: I think, just to be fair, everything you said is

974
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: correct and and and I get it. And that's all

975
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: well and very good. But when he steps back into

976
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: the leg, he takes up so much air in the

977
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 2: room because he's got an ego the size of Nebraska.

978
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: The question is is he gonna disrupt that chemistry passively?

979
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: Which is not beyond him? And this is what I

980
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: was coming to Britain.

981
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 15: Go ahead, It depends on how he's gonna take it.

982
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 15: This man has been the best player on his basketball

983
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 15: team since he was in sixth grade. Now we're talking

984
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 15: about him being a third option. And I'm seeing, at

985
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 15: this point in his career, with all his accolades, he

986
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 15: said want that. He said, hey, let me be that

987
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 15: third option. Let me get my game when you guys

988
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 15: need me. But if said ego, Bernie, We've talked about it.

989
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 15: Before Warriors go out on their shields. They always think

990
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 15: they're on top of their game. I'm hoping he humbles himself.

991
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 15: I'm hoping he writes the ship with this Lakers. I

992
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 15: love what Jajen Reddick's doing, the new culture he's bringing

993
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 15: to La and Bernie. I may be seeing the world

994
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 15: through purple and gold glasses, but I can see them

995
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 15: getting another title.

996
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bernie, I love you by all right, Strong call,

997
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: Strong Call Martin. Martin's called one of the newer callers

998
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: last years before we said really strong perspectives, and I

999
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: respect it. I can't say I totally agree, but I

1000
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: respect his position a lot. And you'll you'll knock me

1001
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: over with a feather if this this group wins another

1002
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: title with with Lebron But hey, you've heard me say

1003
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 2: it before, Bob Youuker once hit a home run off

1004
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: Sandy Kilfax. Damn near just about anything could happen. Spockxwed

1005
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: jumps in from Oregon. My man, what are you drinking tonight?

1006
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 11: Spot Hey Bernie, good good to hear from you. By

1007
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 11: the way, I don't know if anybody else besides you

1008
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 11: and me know who Creskin is.

1009
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: Oh, we got a very you know, we read a

1010
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: book people. You know we got a very sophisticate ter.

1011
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: Let's get I'll tell you what. Let's let's get to it.

1012
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: We got a ton of callers. I want to get

1013
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: to all three subjects. Go ahead and dive right in.

1014
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 11: You always tell me that, why not anybody?

1015
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: All right?

1016
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 6: Uh?

1017
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 11: Lakers, Lebron coming back. I think that he will do

1018
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 11: his best to be in that positive I don't think

1019
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 11: he wants to be the person who embarrasses the Laker.

1020
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 2: Will he be it?

1021
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 16: Will he be a team player?

1022
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 11: I think he'll try it first, But he does have

1023
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 11: a big ego.

1024
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: There it is my friends, see there? It is when

1025
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: that you just nailed it, Spock, you always do. The

1026
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: bottom line is there's going to come that moment when

1027
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: they look at He looks around and says, they don't

1028
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: really need me anymore. I'm not the centerpiece. They don't

1029
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: need me to sell tickets, they don't need me to win.

1030
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 11: Means you know, And what happens then then he'll go

1031
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 11: to New York and try to be a celebrity or

1032
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 11: something over there.

1033
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 16: But I don't know how that looks like.

1034
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: He wants had fifty two million dollars contract. What are

1035
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: your thoughts on.

1036
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 11: Jerry Jones all right, well, Jerry Jerry Jones, He's always

1037
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 11: needed control he had. He still drives a stick shift

1038
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 11: because he has to have so much control.

1039
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: But last lack on the Parsons, last laugh on the Parsons.

1040
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 11: Straight, Yeah, he is because he's going to save money.

1041
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 11: Parsons is going to do his his stats. But if

1042
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 11: he's not with a team that is really going to

1043
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 11: going to get it done, which he wasn't with the

1044
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 11: cow Boys either. But I think that the money the

1045
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 11: Jerry saves and if he ever gets anybody competent enough

1046
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 11: to do the picks, then then maybe, But if he

1047
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 11: continues to pick all these other people that don't quite

1048
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 11: measure up, I yeah, it's I think that he's made

1049
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 11: the right move.

1050
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: Though.

1051
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: You had to remember Spock, you know, if you just

1052
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: signed him, they'd have three guys tied up with fifty

1053
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: percent of the entire salary cap. Quinn Williams exactly taken.

1054
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: And frankly, they have drafted pretty well in the first

1055
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: round the last few years.

1056
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, we'll see what happened anyway.

1057
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the USC trickery, Friday Night trickery or dirty pool.

1058
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 11: Well, you know how they always say if you ain't cheating,

1059
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 11: you ain't trying, and it's legal.

1060
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 5: He did his he did his thing.

1061
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 11: If people can't if people can't catch him, yeah, it might,

1062
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 11: it might be dirty pool, but it worked. And frankly,

1063
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 11: my ex fiance went to Northwestern. I'm happy it happened

1064
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 11: to them. So that's that's pretty good.

1065
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: So all right, good stuff as always, my friend. I

1066
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: always appreciate when you check in Spockole. You forgot the tailors.

1067
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: What are you drinking tonight?

1068
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

1069
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 11: I'm drinking a Pelican Brewery West Coast Ipa, which is

1070
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 11: delicious seven point four white.

1071
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: Well done, my friend. You're always very creative with your libations.

1072
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm just a simple guy. Crown Royal, I mean, so

1073
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: you always got me beat there. Joy the rest of

1074
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: your evening. You always appreciate you.

1075
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 11: Man, Try some apple, all right, yeah, not bad?

1076
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: All right. Listen, we've got Kenny in New York, Jerome

1077
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: and Charleston, Rick and Louisiana, Jeff and Denver. Please don't

1078
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: go anywhere.

1079
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 3: I know who you are.

1080
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: I want to hear from all you, and we just

1081
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: got to get to some stuff here. But we're gonna

1082
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: dive right back in. I'm Bernie Froderwick Kennedy live from

1083
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio studios. Here in Las Vegas,

1084
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: don't go away? Do you listen to the midnight hour

1085
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: and the Bernie.

1086
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1087
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1088
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1089
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 4: listen live.

1090
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: We're back on the Bernie Fradles Show Fox Sports Radio.

1091
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: We are in the midst of the midnight hour talking

1092
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: about Lebron and his return to the Lakers. We will

1093
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: be positive or negative. Jerry Jones might he have the

1094
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: last laugh on the Mica Parsons trade and then the

1095
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: situation where the USC which to me felt like a

1096
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: tennis in a teapot. But Boyd did blow up today.

1097
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: And by the way, referee Mike Perera noted that he

1098
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: said there was one thing that potentially made the you

1099
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: know play illegal. He said, you know, Sam Heard was

1100
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: lined up as the punter, so therefore, quote that's actually

1101
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: a fifteen yard penalty because both he and Johnson the

1102
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: punter lined up as the punter in the game with

1103
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: the same number. Kenny in New York, thanks for hanging

1104
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,959
Speaker 2: on there, pal, What have you got for us tonight,

1105
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: Jenny in New.

1106
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 17: York, I'm loaded with all kinds of information tonight.

1107
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 18: Listen this thing with Fields and Tailor, I mean the

1108
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 18: Jets and Aaron Glenn. They're treating this like Starbacker, Starbuck, Morton,

1109
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 18: killmu Jorgensen, Robinson, Todd, Snake Darrel.

1110
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 7: I mean, and also to me, Aaron Glenn is Mike

1111
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 7: Singletary's mini me. I mean this guy, I mean, come on,

1112
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 7: I mean, the Jets pleased the cults because listen, sours Guardener.

1113
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 7: I'm not a Jet fan, but the Jet fans will

1114
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 7: tell you he's living off his first year last year.

1115
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 14: This year.

1116
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 18: The guy plays Patty Cake back there. He can't tackle,

1117
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 18: can't cover the big time receivers, and the Coole fans

1118
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 18: are gonna find this out.

1119
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 7: Very Quickly're going to do that, And I guess the

1120
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 7: Jets have to root for Dallas and Green Bay to lose.

1121
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 18: Because one of those picks, they'll take one of the

1122
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 18: words for those two picks, well, whichever draft pick is

1123
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 18: closer to the first pick in this draft.

1124
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 7: And also with U come out with Quenton Williams, man,

1125
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 7: you might as well call him Quinton Williams because he

1126
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 7: hadn't play good either this year.

1127
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, You're not wrong, but sometimes guys get

1128
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 2: a new uh change your scenery? Are Kenny? And you

1129
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: know he's only twenty seven years old. I'm not saying

1130
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: the go ahead.

1131
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 17: Well, I know what you're saying, his age and everything.

1132
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 5: Happy birthday twenty seven.

1133
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 8: The thing is with when the dis pack it in.

1134
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: Did we lose Kenny? Kenny? Are you there? Well, I

1135
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: don't know what happened, but Kenny, if you call back

1136
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: in and we'll we'll get back to you again. Jerome

1137
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: and Charleston. Where you been, Jerome? How you been?

1138
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 10: I want runners?

1139
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: That's right, that's Mike Singletary just channel Yeah, forty nine

1140
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: or so. I'm guessing that was like what nine two

1141
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: thousand and four or something that anyway, go ahead, Jerome, Hey.

1142
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 14: And I'm taking the hot stuff, Bernie.

1143
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: You want good to here?

1144
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 14: Good to hear man, I'm taking Mountain Dew with no

1145
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 14: chaser right there.

1146
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: You're not driving tonight. As long as you're not driving, Jerome,

1147
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: and we'll have spots week pick you up, take you

1148
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: where you need to go, all right, man, go ahead, Hey.

1149
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 14: As far as Jerry Jones. He once said, I'm never

1150
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 14: tend to control over this team to anyone, And after

1151
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 14: thirty years, he's right. I don't trust that. I trust

1152
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 14: that guy about as far as I can throw him. Okay,

1153
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 14: I don't trust it. I'm just look, I've had it

1154
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 14: with Jerry Jones went to talking in the distance and that,

1155
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 14: and look he's worth thirteen billion dollars between the Cowboys

1156
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 14: and his money and his own private money. All right,

1157
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 14: I don't trust him. Look just like one day he'll

1158
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 14: decide to turn it over. But as of right now,

1159
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 14: it's not happening. And that in that Southern care I

1160
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 14: watched that camp and I saw the guy throwing the path.

1161
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 14: He said, he's ard number in you. I said, oh, no,

1162
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 14: wonder And the Anasis were laughing about him. They thought

1163
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 14: that was fun.

1164
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 15: Ah.

1165
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 14: They put home the don't on a north Western You know,

1166
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 14: that's not integrity in this cutting integrity and sports you kidney.

1167
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 14: But with all the showboarding and the dancing and the

1168
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 14: and the well, I got money and I making I

1169
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 14: need to make money. We spend a lot of money

1170
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 14: because we make a lot of money. Come on, man,

1171
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 14: and so sleasy sometimes I don't know whether I need

1172
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 14: to take a shot or go get a shower, because

1173
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 14: it's just I mean, guys, like listen, like Iowa was

1174
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 14: quarterback to day. He played four years in one school.

1175
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 14: Then he gets a million dollar to come to Iowa

1176
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 14: and he wasn't that great. They're paying him a million dollars.

1177
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: He isn't.

1178
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 14: He can't even complete a part path and he's playing quarterbacks.

1179
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know. All you gotta get to Lebron.

1180
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: I gotta hear your take out of Lebron when he

1181
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: comes back to the Lakers.

1182
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 14: Honor for Lebron the One and the Leado jimp to

1183
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 14: another title, he's gonna have to show his soul to

1184
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 14: the devil look. One of his biggest missteps was when

1185
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 14: he went to Miami and kids him and says, not four,

1186
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,439
Speaker 14: not five, not trick. And when I said, I really

1187
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 14: mean it, I said, you know, never respect to disrespect

1188
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 14: the process of success and winning, because when you do that,

1189
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 14: when you disrespect it, you're going to find yourself on

1190
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 14: the other side, and the other side is losing. And

1191
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 14: he hasn't won a title him over ten years, and

1192
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 14: I don't expect him to do it. With the Lakers,

1193
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 14: and I also want to Joe Chuck alone, pretty boy

1194
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 14: head coach with the tattoos. Okay, come on, what's that do.

1195
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 15: He has to be the coach, no leads, and.

1196
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 14: He's the course of the lagers, and you believe.

1197
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 5: In him, not me.

1198
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: Fuck you outstanding, Joomy, Sure you're not drinking. Joel was

1199
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: along with that Mountain dew that was outstanding. By the way,

1200
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: just set the record store because you rarely make him.

1201
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't think if you ever heard him make a mistake.

1202
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: They did win a title in twenty twenty, so that

1203
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: was less than ten years ago. That was you can

1204
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: you can check in, but you can never leave. You

1205
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 2: can check out, but you can never leave the Hotel

1206
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: California playoffs, which I contend, which I contend Jerome, they

1207
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: didn't have to travel. They got to sit on their

1208
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 2: butt for two months. That helped the Lakers. They were old,

1209
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: Lebron was even old then. And oh, by the way,

1210
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: they had three months off to lick their wounds before

1211
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: the tournament started. So again, everybody else was in the

1212
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: same boat. And I hear it was really tough in

1213
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: the bubble, but they fitted from that.

1214
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 14: You got the last word really tough. Withe Okay, thank you.

1215
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they said. All right, Hey Rick in Louisiana,

1216
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: how you been Rick?

1217
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 5: You Bernie good Man, you hear from you. Yeah, I've

1218
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 5: been out for a while. Had to get me some rest. Sleep.

1219
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 2: Rest is good, rest is good.

1220
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: All right.

1221
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: So what do you think about these street topics? Take

1222
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: them at anywhere you.

1223
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 5: Want, all right. Let me start with the eighty eighty

1224
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 5: in college. You know they can do those. They have

1225
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 5: two players with the same number, so I think that

1226
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 5: was good. They managed to get away with it, you know,

1227
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 5: just send in the backup quarterback, so that was a

1228
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 5: good move. Secondly, as far as Jerry Jones, one thing

1229
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 5: that hasn't happened with all these moves he's made. Still

1230
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 5: can't stop the run.

1231
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 2: That's so true.

1232
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 5: True Boo scatter Boo, which is out now with an isray.

1233
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 5: But he was helping when they played Dallas and Denver.

1234
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 5: When Denver played, oh my goodness, man, they were running

1235
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 5: the ball like there was nothing. So if I mean,

1236
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 5: if these moves can get the run stopped, and I

1237
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 5: think he'll be okay. But he's not laughing yet.

1238
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: I've always liked no no, far from it. But I've

1239
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: always liked Quinnon. Williams with Kenny in New York was right. Uh,

1240
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: he did not really live anywhere near to his potential

1241
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: with the Jets. What are your thoughts on Lebron or

1242
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on the USC trick play?

1243
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that said with the trick play because in college

1244
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 5: you can have those A two eighties eighty eighty numbers,

1245
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 5: so you can that was a good move because they can't. Hello,

1246
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 5: you're still on oh okay, and so that was a

1247
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 5: good move. But then now to Lebron, my concern is, well,

1248
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 5: I put it like this, I just don't see Lebron

1249
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 5: being a person and I can be wrong that if

1250
01:05:54,800 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 5: if what's his name, the guard, Luca Luca. Yeah, if

1251
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 5: Luca becomes the main, you know, point of interest and

1252
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 5: he's leading the team, I don't know.

1253
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: I think he kind of I think we're kind of

1254
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: to that point now, be honest with you, I think

1255
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: we're now Rick, It's it's pretty much Luca's team now.

1256
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1257
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 5: So my question is this is that going to be

1258
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 5: a Lebron issue or is that going to be a

1259
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 5: coaching issue? If if him coming back disrupts the team

1260
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 5: and JJ Ridrick gonna have to make some decisions, you know,

1261
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 5: and we'll see it. But but you know what also

1262
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 5: is the issue is that that fifty two millions. So

1263
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 5: he may have to keep him in there, right, you know,

1264
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 5: because of the fifty two millions. But I still think

1265
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 5: that he needs to be prepared to say, hey, look man,

1266
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 5: you you know, he probably needs to start having some

1267
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 5: some talks with him now because one thing I believe

1268
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 5: Lebron two things I believe Brown will do when you

1269
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 5: get in the game. He may pass the ball, but

1270
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 5: he's no jack of them threes. And oh boy, he's

1271
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 5: not the best three point shooter, and.

1272
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: He's no longer the centerpiece.

1273
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 9: He's not.

1274
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: And we're going to see how that, how that plays

1275
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: with his ego anything else.

1276
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 5: Rick, Yeah, I don't know if you noticed, but Bill

1277
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 5: Belichick and his girlfriend has won the last two games.

1278
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: Man, I choose not to consume that content, my friend,

1279
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: I choose not to consume that content. They're going nowhere,

1280
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: all right, my friend. Appreciate it. Rick, You have a

1281
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: good evening. Jeff and Denver join. Just welcome in. Jeff, Hey, Bernie,

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Speaker 2: how you doing good, sir?

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Speaker 9: You I'm doing good.

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01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 17: I think you should look at the expense fund and

1285
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 17: maybe do some mobile events and get yourself out there

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01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 17: so other people can meet you.

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Speaker 11: You never know.

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Speaker 2: You never know. My wife and I do a lot

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01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: of travel it and I've been to Denver many times.

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01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 2: A great city. I used to stay in Littleton when

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01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: I went there on business. But your thoughts, appreciate that,

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts go ahead, Jeff.

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Speaker 17: Hey, So the first off, I want to chime in

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01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 17: on the Lebron things. As a Denver Nugget fan, I

1295
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 17: cannot wait for Lebron to come back because it's going

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 17: to totally jack up all the mojo that they have

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01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 17: going right now. I hate to say it, but the

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 17: Lakers are playing with pretty good mojo right now, the

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01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 17: balls moving, but Lebron's it's going to stop it immediately.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. It's going to be a

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01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: bug on the wheel of flying the ointment, isn't it,

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 2: because they're all ball dominant. Yeah, go ahead, Jeff.

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01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, everything's moving and flowing, and Lebron's going to come in,

1304
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 17: give me the ball, give me the ball, give me

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01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 17: the ball.

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01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 2: Passively. He'll do that, and I just think he's going

1307
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: to take up air in the room. Weren't completely in

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 2: agreement on that. Jeff thoughts on Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons.

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01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: You know the trade. He's got back some capital. Uh

1310
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: and and and we'll see if Quinn and Williams pans out.

1311
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, Green Bay is not exactly set

1312
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 2: in the world on fire. So Mike Jerry have the

1313
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 2: last laugh on that trade.

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Speaker 19: I never thought Michael was that good anyway.

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01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 17: Of all the top name pass rushers, his numbers were terrible.

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 17: I never thought he was that great anyway. So I

1317
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 17: think the guy is overrated. So that thing is like

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 17: Barry Jones to like get rid of him. But I

1319
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 17: don't see him doing anything anyway. He's not done anything

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 17: in Green Bay yet, So.

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01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 2: I guess you're right. So I guess the jury's out.

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01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 2: We'll see uh he's I think he's got all the

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01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: ability in the world. But the question is, you don't

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01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 2: you know, you just don't win super Bowls with one

1325
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 2: edge rusher, right, otherwise Michael Miles Garrett would have a

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01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,919
Speaker 2: couple of super Bowls. Well, finally, you have a situation

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01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 2: now here in the USC trickery or dirty pool on

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01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: Friday Night with the with the poll, both players were

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Speaker 2: in number eighty. I'll get to that.

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Speaker 17: As far as the edw's got two pass rushers that

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01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 17: are like killing it, we in sack so Mike I

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01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 17: can't do his own.

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Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, listen, listen, Denver keeps winning. They don't

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01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: ask Kyle just how many. They're not getting the respect

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 2: they deserve. But I think Sean Payton's doing a great job.

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Speaker 17: Well, our defense is great, but our offense is non existent.

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01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 17: But the whole usc thing. Any punter, whoever you put

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 17: in the position, a punter can throw a pass. It

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 17: doesn't matter the number or the trickery, any position.

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01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: That's a really good point. That's a really good point.

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Speaker 11: Punter.

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Speaker 2: That kind of says it all right there, Yeah, you're

1343
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: not wrong.

1344
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 17: What's the what's the issue about that?

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 8: Whoever they put back there can still throw.

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01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: A pass, right, Yeah, the original punter could have thrown

1347
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 2: a pass. You're right, all right? I remember, I remember,

1348
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 2: thanks a lot, Jeff. There was a punter Ollhouse, see that,

1349
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 2: a punter named Tom Tupa back in the day. He

1350
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 2: was actually the number three quarterback in the death shot.

1351
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: He was like an all State quarterback in high school.

1352
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 2: Tom Tupa. Hey, we're off and running. Callers have been fantastic,

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01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: Dick and Dayton, Miguel in Southgate. Please sit tight. We're

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01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 2: getting to you right quick. Next, I'm Bernie Frattle. We

1355
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: are comedy line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio

1356
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 2: Studios here in Las Vegas. Keep it lock listening to

1357
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddle Show the midnight hour and five.

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01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio all right.

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01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: Back at the Bernie Fraddle Show midnight hour. He got

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01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: four callers. I want to get to all of them.

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01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 2: Let's go out to Dayton, Ohio. Dick joins. Just welcome in, Dick. Hey,

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01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 2: how you doing, Bernie good sare you?

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01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 16: Oh good?

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 20: I was talking about your screener. You know, my family

1365
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 20: liston Cleveland and I've followed with them the Cleveland Sports.

1366
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 20: But I really think the Browns need a re shuffling.

1367
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 20: I think Tasanski, I think Adam Barry. I think they

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01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 20: need to It's pitiful about them in the Bengals the

1369
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 20: same way that's I'm sad about Joe Burrow, but the

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 20: defensive line is just terrible, and it's just you know,

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Speaker 20: it's just I don't understand. We've had, you know, in

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01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 20: the eighties, they were good. What do you think's wrong

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01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 20: with them? The Browns and Bengals?

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01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 2: They never should have let well, the Bengals is bad luck.

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01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: The Browns. Listen, They've had quarterbacks. You had Bernie Coosaar,

1376
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: you had Baker Mayfield. They were one and thirty one.

1377
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: He got into the playoffs. It's leadership from the top down,

1378
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: just like any other organization, Dick, you know, so anything else,

1379
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 2: but because I want to get to the air calls that.

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you checking in anything else.

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01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 20: Yeah, I just wanted to congratulate the Buck guys. So far,

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01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 20: I think they're going to go, oh yeah. But I'm

1383
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 20: a big fan. I watch Fox Sports, you know. I

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01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 20: like to see the Bengals and Bengals and what is

1385
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 20: it the Bengals and Browns and you know, I watched

1386
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 20: the Cavaliers, so it's kind of nice. I'm a big

1387
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 20: fan of Fox Sports.

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01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, man. I've been to Dayton, Ohio. My buddy

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01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: and I used to drink it thirsties here in Dayton, Ohio.

1390
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: And by the way, Cleveland's a great city. I don't

1391
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 2: care what anybody says, I mean that mcgallan, Southgate. Welcome

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01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 2: in Bernie fratershow Hey, what's going on.

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Speaker 21: As far as as far as the Lebron situation, Yes, sir,

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01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 21: I believe you got to give it a little sample

1395
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 21: size as far as like fifteen twenty games tops, and

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01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 21: if it doesn't work out, you have to sit them.

1397
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 21: You have to sit them down and talk to him

1398
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 21: and possibly look to trade trading him.

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01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, They're gonna that's gonna be a bear

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: because of the size of the contract, in his age

1401
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: and the injuries and all that, and idealistically you're not wrong,

1402
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: but boy, that's gonna be a tough not anything on

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01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: the other subject, said Miguel.

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Speaker 21: As far as far as Jerry Jones goes on this one,

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01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 21: I think he did get it right as far on

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 21: not paying Micah just because the team is not really

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01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 21: going to win a Super Bowl anytime soon. But overall,

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01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 21: Jerry Jones, I'm sorry to say, the companies are not

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 21: gonna be legit super Bowl contenders until he passes away,

1410
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 21: because he's never gonna let somebody else run the team,

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01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 21: somebody that can actually get him the players and the

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01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 21: team that can actually content.

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01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 19: For the Super Bowl.

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01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: You're not wrong in terms of the fact that he

1415
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: is the king. It's good to be the king. Anything

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01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: on the USC punter or fiasco, I think.

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01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 21: I think USC for a University of vat Kylibert to

1418
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 21: do something like that, it's a bad look. Especially it's

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 21: just I don't like it. Whether it was right or wrong,

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01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 21: penalty or no penalty.

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01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,560
Speaker 9: They shouldn't have done that.

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 2: Hey, Miguel, that's a really strong call. I appreciate you

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01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: checking in. Please don't be a stranger, man, Marco and Charlotte.

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: Welcome in, Marco.

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 8: What's going on, man?

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01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 19: How you doing?

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01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 11: Good?

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01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: Sir? Thanks for checking in.

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01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 16: So I just I just wanted to talk on two

1430
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 16: of the topics. I'm a Cowboys fan, so obviously I

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01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 16: want to talk about Jerry.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 16: I feel like I had already said to myself about

1434
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 16: a year ago that we should trade my good just

1435
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 16: after we signed that and signed CD and just where

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 16: we were at with those kinds, I was like, don't

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01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 16: make sense to pay Micah that much money on top

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 16: of that, like like just by default now because I

1439
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 16: didn't like him about default, we should have.

1440
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 8: Got rid of him.

1441
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 16: So I was cool with that decision, but I didn't

1442
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 16: like how Jerry went about it, Like I think he

1443
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 16: went about the situation the whole wrong way. It's like

1444
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 16: he wanted to make it a spectacle and it just

1445
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 16: seems like he wanted to be super disrespectful towards Michael,

1446
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 16: and Michael wasn't that way towards him.

1447
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 8: So I don't know.

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 16: I don't like the way Jerry handled it. And it's

1449
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 16: like they're talking about we're gonna sign Pickens, but Pickens

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01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 16: has the same agent that Michaeh had, So that's gonna

1451
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,839
Speaker 16: be that's gonna be pretty interesting to see what happens

1452
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 16: with George Pickens because Jerry obviously said he didn't like

1453
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 16: Michael's agent.

1454
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 5: And then.

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01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 2: How much you said excellent perspective, continue on, oh man.

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01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 16: Then with the Lebron thing, I've been I've been listening

1457
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 16: to all the other callers and stuff, and I don't know, man,

1458
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 16: it's like nobody actually watches the games, Like, do y'all

1459
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 16: remember Lebron playing with Luca last year?

1460
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 3: He played off the ball the whole.

1461
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 5: Time and he did great.

1462
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 14: He did he had way more energy.

1463
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 16: For defense, Like the whole reason the Lakers brought Anthony

1464
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 16: David to LA was because Lebron wanted him to take

1465
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 16: over and be number one?

1466
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 3: Did we all forget that?

1467
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 16: Like everybody's questioning whether Lebron can play in this type

1468
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 16: of situation, He's already wanted to do that. He did

1469
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 16: it for the twenty eight games that he played with

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Speaker 16: Luca last year, So like, what are we talking about?

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see if that plays out. And don't be

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01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 2: a stranger, Marco. I'd like to hear from you again.

1473
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 2: But those are excellent perspectives all the way around. Listen,

1474
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: signing Micaeh. They would have killed the salary cap with

1475
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: three guys, but you're right, the process was clunky and disrespectful,

1476
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 2: all right? Our last color of that DJ different in

1477
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: Kansas brand home for us.

1478
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 19: Hey, what's up there, Bernie bro I haven't haven't called

1479
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 19: you guys in a good while. For man, I apologized

1480
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 19: called work late. But look, let me just say this

1481
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 19: right here, right now, Garry Jones, he's getting people who

1482
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 19: they can who he could control period that let's to

1483
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 19: put it. He getting the coach of where he could control.

1484
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 19: Now Lebron, this is just my take, dude, sit down.

1485
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 19: Let other people take the range because you're getting older,

1486
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 19: like you was at Miami and Dwayne Wade said, look,

1487
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 19: you take over the control. Now he needs to sit down,

1488
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 19: let other.

1489
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 22: People take control, retire and go golf into the movies

1490
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 22: or productions that.

1491
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 5: He needs to do.

1492
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: All right. Anything on the USC punk Fiasco deal last night, Oh.

1493
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 3: Well that was bad.

1494
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 19: I'll just let's put it this way.

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Speaker 3: That was bad. That was bad.

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01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 22: That was majorly bad.

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 3: Period. That just bad. It just you can say about it.

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Speaker 2: It was bad, all right? Anything else said DJ.

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01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 3: Berdie.

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Speaker 22: Look here, I just want to say thank you for

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01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 22: getting up the time to talk and to express opinions

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 22: to other activity that's going on.

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 3: I'll listen to Fox Sports Radio.

1504
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 8: I keep it locked, like Chris.

1505
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 3: Rod say, keep it locked.

1506
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 22: When I wake up, I listen to it. When I

1507
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 22: get ready to go to bed, I listen to it.

1508
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 22: So you guys, you got doing a really good hookup

1509
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 22: job down there.

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01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 3: I like you guys a lot.

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01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: All right, we appreciate that. Appreciate you and all the

1512
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 2: callers tonight. And to piggyback on what Marco said from Charlotte, Look,

1513
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 2: Lebron has in the past shown defference. He did in Cleveland,

1514
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: he did in Miami, and he did last year with Luca.

1515
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 2: They didn't quit themselves well against Minnesota, but he did.

1516
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 2: I feel like the dynamics different this year. But let's

1517
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: see how Lebron is. Let's give him a chance, because

1518
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: he did want Anthony Daves to come in. Although Anthony

1519
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: Davis wasn't ball dominant like Luca is and like Austin

1520
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 2: Reeves is, You're gonna have three guys potentially ball dominant.

1521
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:07,560
Speaker 2: Now if Ron comes back and finds a role that

1522
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 2: essentially turns the playmaking duties over to Luca, and this

1523
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 2: is a pairing that has a potential to create a

1524
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: top tier offense, and we'll see how they do during

1525
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: the regular season and then into the playoffs. It's a

1526
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 2: very crowded West Division, so I was posing the question

1527
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: as objectively as I can. I don't know how it's

1528
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 2: going to work out. It just seems eerily quiet with

1529
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: Lebron not around, and you know, I don't think I

1530
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: just don't feel he wants to go out this way.

1531
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: But I think I've told this story a hundred times.

1532
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 2: Two thousand and three, I drove down to Cleveland to

1533
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 2: say Vincent Saint Mary's play, and I was shocked by

1534
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 2: three things. Lebron walks in the court and he's eighteen

1535
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: years old. He's built like an NFL linebacker. Go wow.

1536
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 2: Then he's a point guard bringing the ball up the floor,

1537
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 2: and I said to myself, this kid's got guard handles.

1538
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: He's incredible. And then he was very unselfish. Because I've

1539
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: seen a lot of high school stars play over the years,

1540
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: they take the air out of the room. Lebron was

1541
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: dishing balls off passing. He was not a ballhog at all.

1542
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: So I do think it's in his DNA and its

1543
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 2: nature to try to fit where he's most needed. The

1544
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: question is will he because there's a dynamic here in

1545
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 2: which Luca is now the centerpiece of the team and

1546
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: the guy may be selling tickets. But hey, like Marco said,

1547
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 2: he did it last year, let's see if he does

1548
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: it this year. And we'll talk to Mark Medina coming up,

1549
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: because we're gonna get into the NBA Medina Magic. Thanks

1550
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 2: to all the callers again on the MIDnet hour, You're fantastic.

1551
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show

1552
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Yup, that's right. You heard the

1553
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: man Bernie faddle Show keeps from rolling right along. My

1554
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: name is Bernie Fraddleick comedy line from the Fox Sports

1555
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: Radio studios here in Las Vegas, take after three and

1556
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: Pacific six am Eastern. Thanks to all the callers again

1557
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: for another Rockets Minette hour. You're outstanding getting compliments on Twitter,

1558
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: so really appreciate what you bring to the show. But

1559
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,839
Speaker 2: we got to switch to the NBA. Three simple words.

1560
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: It's that time. Mark Medina, our Fox Sports Radio guru,

1561
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: also a writer for Essentially Sports never fails. Always plenty

1562
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 2: of stuff to talk about, Mark, we haven't gotten to

1563
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 2: it the last couple of weeks. So why don't we

1564
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: start out with Browny's defensive gym against Victor Winbinyama, which

1565
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: I obviously say a ton in cheek, poor guy. I

1566
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 2: don't think anybody can stop winnby that night.

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01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 12: Your thoughts on what you saw, Hey, don't be talking

1568
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 12: in chick about Bronni. He had nine points in today's

1569
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 12: game against the Atlanta Hawks. JJ Reddick is praising him

1570
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 12: for how he's a great catch and shoot player. I

1571
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 12: mean he played eighteen minutes today against Portland last week

1572
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 12: nineteen minutes. He is playing legitimate rotation minutes here.

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I believe the Lakers lost to Atlanta today, correct,

1574
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: that is true. What would they be without Bronnie? That's

1575
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: that's really trying to.

1576
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,799
Speaker 12: Tie games in a row. And actually Victor one Minyama

1577
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 12: was struggling that game, not because of Bronny, but he

1578
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 12: did get into foul trouble. He wound up fouling out

1579
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 12: of the game. But you know, they're just sending multiple

1580
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 12: bodies at Victor, you know, so you want to get

1581
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 12: in the paint, and you know he actually was struggling,

1582
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 12: but had nothing to do with Browny.

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01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: No, that's fair, that's fair. So they get a couple

1584
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 2: of days off and they get to visit Charlotte. And

1585
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 2: that's what I was thinking. If there's no lebron, there's

1586
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: no Luca, and there's no Austin Reeves, you got Bronnie,

1587
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 2: who I think. Well, I don't think he was even

1588
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: ball dominant in high school. But that's a different story

1589
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: for a different day. All right, good stuff. That'll that'll

1590
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 2: conclude our Bronnie update. I want to go back to

1591
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: the Clipper situation. Apparently Steve Balmer was sued this week

1592
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: over the Kawhido, can you tell us about that?

1593
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean this is part of the lawsuit that

1594
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 12: they asked. Some of the former Aspiration employees were suing

1595
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 12: Sue Balmer because he was managing these payments as a

1596
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 12: way to circumvent the cap. Now all these things are

1597
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 12: going to be litigated, so anyone can technically file a lawsuit,

1598
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 12: but what to see what happens with how the court

1599
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 12: looks at this And this is tied to the larger investigation,

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01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,799
Speaker 12: Bernie that we've been talking about for these past few months,

1601
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 12: that they're going to look at all the evidence. But

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01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 12: I think it's again going to be something that gets

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01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 12: decided once all said and done, sometime next summer.

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01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 2: Talk with Mark Medina Medina Magic or Fox Sports Radio

1605
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: NBA Guruls, a writer for Essentially Sports. The dialogue or

1606
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 2: rhetoric is heated up in terms of the tough choice

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01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: that Memphis faces regarding John Moran, and I understand his

1608
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: trade market is not exactly robust, but there are some

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01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: teams showing interest. What do you expect is going to

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01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 2: happen with John Morant and the Memphis Grizzlies If I.

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01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 12: Guess I think that he stays with the Memphis Grizzlies,

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01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 12: I think that obviously, even though they are not good

1613
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 12: right now, I e. The one game suspension, I don't

1614
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 12: think that it's in jaws interest to request the trade

1615
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 12: because of what you just said that I don't think

1616
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 12: the market is that robust for him. I think with

1617
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 12: the Grizzlies, you know they're going through an uncertain period

1618
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 12: with how they're going to be in the Western Conference

1619
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 12: this season. Then trading your hometown favorite star player usually

1620
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 12: isn't a recipe for success. He's beloved in Memphis. They

1621
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 12: really identify with, you know, the grit and grind kind

1622
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 12: of personality he has and you know the kind of

1623
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 12: chip and chip on his shoulder mentality. Uh that I

1624
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 12: think that ultimately they're going to huddle their heads together

1625
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 12: and prevail. That you know, they did give the one

1626
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 12: game suspension to them. That showed the message that we're

1627
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 12: not going to let you just run things just because

1628
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 12: you're a star player. But I think eventually things will

1629
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 12: fizzle down. But that caveat of side, I could see

1630
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 12: Miami being a real realistic player in this because that

1631
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 12: he'd have a pretty good track record with taking guys

1632
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 12: on that don't really work out elsewhere because they feel

1633
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 12: like they can mold them, you know, under pat Ryo

1634
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 12: and Eric Spolser with all the conditioning commands and strong

1635
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 12: coaching expectations, and they have a really good reputation. But

1636
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 12: even if they might be interested, I don't think that

1637
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 12: they'll give up the farm to get them, and so

1638
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 12: I think ultimately he'll wind up Stanpo where he is.

1639
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: So this isn't exactly a man bite stock story. But

1640
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 2: Zion Williams heard again with an amstring. But I'm understanding

1641
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: this finally might be the year they do move move

1642
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: Zion from the Pelicans. What are you hearing?

1643
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's fascinating here because when you talk to the Pelicans,

1644
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 12: they always swear by him about not that he can

1645
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 12: stay healthy because clearly he has them, but that they say,

1646
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 12: you know what he's doing the work saying discipline. Kevan

1647
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 12: Mooney talked to me a few weeks ago. You know,

1648
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 12: he just joined them this year. He has a lot

1649
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 12: of equity with the warriors, and he himself said, yeah,

1650
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 12: I was wondering myself what the real deal is about him,

1651
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 12: because you always hear stories. But he was adamant that

1652
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 12: he's putting in the work and he's doing everything from

1653
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 12: a dieting training standpoint. But availability is availability. Even if

1654
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 12: you're doing the right things and you're not being available,

1655
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 12: there's only so much you can do. But I think

1656
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 12: for different reasons here, but similar to the job conversation,

1657
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 12: I don't see there being much of a market for

1658
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 12: Zion either because of availability, and so I think the

1659
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 12: Pelicans are just going to keep riding this out, and

1660
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 12: if there is going to be a change, the low

1661
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 12: hanging freak is going to be Willie Green. You know,

1662
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 12: I know that we talked about this last week, and

1663
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 12: I would I expressed a little bit surprised, but the

1664
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 12: fact that they keep persisting with their struggles. It's always

1665
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 12: inevitable that the head coach gets the first acts, especially

1666
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 12: when there is a new front office in charge.

1667
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 2: Would it surprise you, Mark if Trey Young is possibly created.

1668
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: He's entering the last year next year his two hundred

1669
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars deal, and it's not exactly like

1670
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: the Hawks are in a big hurry to sign him

1671
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: to an extension, and as productive as he's been, the

1672
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 2: Hawks just win forty games every year. Could you see

1673
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:22,839
Speaker 2: Trey Young elsewhere.

1674
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 12: You know, if we had this conversation at the end

1675
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 12: of last season, I thought it would be a matter

1676
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 12: of when, not if, he's he's being dealt. So the

1677
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 12: Hawks actually kind of doubled down on him by giving

1678
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:39,520
Speaker 12: some good supporting cast players around him with Chriss Porzingis

1679
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 12: and Alexander Alexander Walker, they're up dayson Daniels. He's a

1680
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 12: great defender. Luke Kennard another great shooter. So you know,

1681
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 12: they're they have this great win against the Lakers, but

1682
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 12: I think that, you know, that was more of the

1683
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 12: Lakers not showing up, but they have been undermanned with

1684
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 12: Trey Young having an injury. But I think they see

1685
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 12: themselves as you know what, the Eastern Conference is so

1686
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 12: wide open this year, and they have a better supporting

1687
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 12: cast around him, maybe they can catch lay in a bottle.

1688
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 12: So again, I thought, eventually, because they kept writing a

1689
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 12: brick wall off for that twenty twenty one playoff run,

1690
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 12: that they would just say, you know what, what's cutter losses.

1691
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 12: But with what they did this offseason makes me convince,

1692
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 12: you know what, Trey Young is here to say last

1693
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 12: name I.

1694
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: Mentioned in this subject matter, All of a sudden Janice

1695
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: and tenakoople guy. I think we all thought three or

1696
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: four months we had a guy on Twitter. Buck Jenner

1697
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 2: said he's going nowhere and so far is not what's interesting.

1698
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 2: He's really been productive this year. He's averaging like thirty

1699
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: three points a game. He's shooting almost seventy percent. Would

1700
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: you be surprised if Jannis ends up elsewhere? Does he

1701
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 2: finished his career with the Bucks.

1702
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 12: He had so much of a guessing game because I

1703
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 12: thought that the right on the wall last year is

1704
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 12: pretty clear. With another playoff exit, Damian having his achilles

1705
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 12: injury and then then making the tough but necessary decision

1706
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 12: to waive him, I thought that he would see the

1707
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 12: right on the wall. But to your point, he's already

1708
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 12: eclipsed his numbers last season. He's back in the MVP conversation.

1709
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 12: And even though you know they're not a perfect roster,

1710
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 12: having someone like Miles Turner has done wonders. Kyle Kuzmana

1711
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 12: has been a better player, Gary Crentton Trent Junior is

1712
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 12: a good outside shooter that you know. I think that

1713
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 12: even with all the imperfections, he's gonna wind up staying

1714
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 12: with Milwaukee, and that's something that was emphasized to me

1715
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:42,839
Speaker 12: before the season. I saw Marquise Johnson, who's longtime Bucks analysts,

1716
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 12: and he was stressed to me, even though Jannie has

1717
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 12: put on all these messages, he's just doing this to

1718
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 12: keep the front office of front office honest with making

1719
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 12: sure to the upgrade of the roster. But he said,

1720
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 12: knowing him, he's all about loyalty and he doesn't believe

1721
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 12: anything h elsewhere that would suggest that that loyalty's ever

1722
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 12: going to break because of just how he is as

1723
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 12: a person.

1724
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 3: So we had a very.

1725
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 2: Rocous midnight hour, a lot of it having to do

1726
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 2: with the Lakers and Lebron's return. We're going to get

1727
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: to that in a second, but before I do, I

1728
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 2: understand Austin reeves injury might be a little worse than

1729
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: originally anticipated. What is his timeline to return?

1730
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, he's in the past three games because of

1731
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 12: a right groinstring. JJ Reddick didn't give a timeline yet,

1732
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 12: but you know.

1733
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 3: I think that.

1734
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 12: He could return pretty soon. I don't think it's going

1735
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 12: to be Monday's game against Charlotte, but I could see

1736
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 12: at some point this road trip that he's back. But

1737
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 12: given that groin injuries are always delicate. They want to

1738
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 12: be cautious. So if I had a guess here looking

1739
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,879
Speaker 12: at the schedule, they'll sit them out Monday against Charlotte,

1740
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 12: Wednesday at Oklahoma Citi, but probably get him back for

1741
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 12: Friday's game in New Orleans.

1742
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 2: Interesting, so I said, sort of in a brazen fashion, Gosh,

1743
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: I think it was in September. I thought Lebron would

1744
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 2: be back in December, but now they're talking about maybe

1745
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 2: middle of the month. What's his Lebron's timeline?

1746
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, well it's JJ Redick has said what you just mentioned,

1747
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 12: probably the second third week of November. He's not with

1748
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 12: the Lakers right now on the road trip which extends

1749
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 12: them past Charlotte Monday, Oklahoma City Wednesday, New Orleans Friday

1750
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 12: in Milwaukee Sunday. So maybe he plays their first home

1751
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 12: game against Utah and November eighteenth, or maybe the two

1752
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 12: days before Thanksgiving November twenty fifth against the Lakers. He

1753
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 12: needs to do five on five work contact, but he

1754
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 12: is going to be evaluated technically in about a week

1755
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 12: or two, so we have.

1756
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 2: An interesting dynamic mark. We have to be honest, he's

1757
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 2: no longer the centerpiece. I don't think they need Lebron

1758
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 2: to sell tickets anymore. This is Lucas tem Luca has

1759
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 2: begun now. I know in his career Lebron can show defference,

1760
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 2: but this is a different dynamic because it's a passing

1761
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 2: of the torch, among other things, and he's playing without

1762
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: a contract next year. How do you expect this to

1763
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 2: honestly work? Maintaining your objectivity here? What does this look like?

1764
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 2: Not just the first week Lebron's back, but throughout the

1765
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 2: remainder of the season. Can they make this cool exist simultaneously?

1766
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 12: They can, but it'll be awkward. It's going to be complicated.

1767
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 12: Here's why x as it knows. I don't think it's

1768
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 12: a problem. I think Lebron is good and gladly take

1769
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 12: a back seat because he trusts Luka Doncic. It helps

1770
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 12: his workload. He's a great passer. Last season he embraced

1771
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 12: being a defender. And also the medical people are going

1772
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 12: to limit his workload. I talked to a few outside doctors,

1773
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 12: you know, away from the team, and they projected he's

1774
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 12: going to be on minutes restrictions for at least the

1775
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 12: next month or so, and his production won't be the same,

1776
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 12: but he'll ramp up the second part of the season.

1777
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 12: I think where the awkwardness is, you know, him having

1778
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 12: command of the locker room, him having influence on what

1779
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 12: the Lakers do, lead into the trade deadline. But you know,

1780
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 12: I know they laid an egg against Atlanta, But I

1781
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 12: think at fairness, when Lebron was out, they've shown that

1782
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 12: they have a pretty good roster. They don't really need

1783
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 12: to make dramatic changes. They have Luca playing at MVP level,

1784
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 12: Austin Reeves playing at All star level, a lot of

1785
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 12: good role players being the best versions of themselves with

1786
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 12: Marcus Smart, DeAndre and Jaquaraba. Really the only question mark

1787
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 12: and negative part is he gave Vincent's injury. But he's

1788
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 12: supposed to be back at some point in the next

1789
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 12: week or two, so you know, x ason Os, I

1790
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 12: think it's going to be fine. It's just more all

1791
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:45,959
Speaker 12: the behind the scenes drama for the front office dynamic.

1792
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 12: Is he playing well enough that the Lakers would want

1793
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 12: to give him an offer next season? And you know,

1794
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,719
Speaker 12: how does he weigh when to make an announcement about

1795
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,080
Speaker 12: his future because there's always the farewell tour. So well,

1796
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 12: if it were only as simple as basketball. There want

1797
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 12: to be an issue at all because Lebron is all

1798
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 12: about the right things on the court. But as we know, Bernie,

1799
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 12: it's all the extra curricular that makes things complicated with

1800
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 12: Lebron and sometimes leads to some tension behind the scenes.

1801
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,799
Speaker 2: Well, you made that distinction about as well as anybody

1802
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 2: humanly can. I think that statement needs to be framed

1803
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: and hung on the wall to love next to the

1804
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 2: Mona Lisa, because Mark, you've essentially diagrammed the psychodynamic here

1805
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 2: and so yes, the x's and o's, we've already seen

1806
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: what that looks like. But last year at this time,

1807
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 2: Lebron didn't know the Lakers are going to basically tell

1808
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 2: me what the road and Ale it's Lucas team. So

1809
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 2: you have this fall from grace as it were. I

1810
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 2: don't want to be dramatic. So the real question is

1811
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 2: use the word awkward, awkward, perfect word. How does his

1812
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 2: awkwardness manifest itself as a practical matter, because I don't

1813
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 2: see how it helps him on the floor win games.

1814
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, well you know what, buy a ticket because even

1815
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:07,759
Speaker 12: if there's more losses or wins or it's a roller coaster,

1816
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,560
Speaker 12: it's going to be entertaining because the other thing that

1817
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 12: we don't really know is just how is his body

1818
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 12: going to respond. Well, we've seen his time.

1819
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 3: With the Lakers.

1820
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 12: When he's on the floor, I'm not going to say

1821
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 12: he's playing like his prime years, but he still plays

1822
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 12: at all star caliber level. But there's been a lot

1823
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 12: of games that he has been hurt with the Lakers,

1824
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 12: and when you're forty years old, you're coming off a

1825
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 12: back injury, all bets are off. So I think, in

1826
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 12: fairness to Lebron again, I only has any problem with

1827
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 12: Luca taking rains with the ball handling, taking more shots.

1828
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 12: To some degree, Austin reeves he does make the right

1829
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 12: basketball play, and because he has better talent around him,

1830
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 12: I think he's willing to take it back seat. Previous

1831
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 12: years he refused. He initially signed on board, but then

1832
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 12: refused to do it because he didn't trust guys like

1833
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 12: D'Angel Russell, Russell Westbrook. This is a whole other animal here,

1834
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 12: But again, the aw fourdness has to do with the

1835
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 12: uncertainty about his health, the uncertainty about how the front

1836
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 12: office views his future, and the uncertainty on you know,

1837
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 12: when he wants to make an announcement about his future.

1838
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 12: There's just a lot of unknowns and moving parts that

1839
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 12: again is going to make for very compelling soap opera coverage.

1840
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: Look, we've seen Aaron Rodgers do this in Green Bay.

1841
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 2: We've seen Brett Favre do this in Green Bay. It's

1842
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 2: going to be a distraction. We'll just have to see

1843
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 2: how it manifests itself. Finally, I want to run this

1844
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 2: by you. The WNBA and their CBA negotiations date agreed

1845
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 2: to extend the talks without us, you know, the CBA

1846
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 2: one more month after Halloween, when now we're already ten

1847
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 2: days into that month. That's not very long. Do you

1848
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 2: expect these two sides to strike a deal? Is the

1849
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 2: Commission have his eyes on this at all? Adam Silver?

1850
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 2: From your vantage point, what do you expect?

1851
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 12: I expect fact that they're going to reach a deal soon.

1852
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 12: I think the fact that there was an extension shows,

1853
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 12: you know what, we just need some time to dot

1854
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 12: the you know, dot I cross T's neither side want

1855
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 12: so lose any momentum. With the fact that the WNBA

1856
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 12: has gotten more popular because of star players like Caitlin

1857
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 12: Clark and other players. Regardless of how you look at

1858
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 12: labor negotiations and who's right, who's wrong, and philosophically where

1859
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 12: you land on it. When you're out of sight, out

1860
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 12: of mind. That's not good for business, but for the

1861
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 12: players because they only have a certain amount of years

1862
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 12: available to earn this kind of money, and for the

1863
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 12: business itself and especially the WNBA. They're catching lighting a

1864
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 12: bottle right now with you know, eyeballs finally turning on

1865
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 12: them after them playing second fiddle to the major professional

1866
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 12: sports team. So I don't think. I think both sides

1867
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 12: are very cognizant that they can't squander this kind of momentum.

1868
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:59,560
Speaker 2: That's a common sense, pragmatic viewpoint, and I understand, But

1869
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything common sense or pragmatic about

1870
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 2: the w NBA. It's almost a sensitive en titledmn. By

1871
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 2: the way, they lost money again this year, so we're

1872
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 2: going on a long time. But listen, I'm gonna take

1873
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 2: your word. Perhaps behind the scenes they realize there's a

1874
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 2: chance to grow from here, and you're right, any kind

1875
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 2: of interruption out of side, out of mind, which I

1876
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 2: think they're out of side, out of mind even during

1877
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,560
Speaker 2: the finals. But that's just me. The long and the

1878
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 2: short of it, Mark, because I think you make some

1879
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 2: valid points and we just have to see how it

1880
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 2: plays out. And I'll end tonight like I end every week.

1881
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,719
Speaker 2: I'm always anxious to see what the new cycle brings

1882
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,719
Speaker 2: us between now and next Saturday. I got a feeling

1883
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 2: there'll be something, some bombshell again, you get the last word.

1884
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, look, given what's going on in the NBA,

1885
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 12: with the gambling allegations and that investigation, we should urge

1886
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 12: the listeners to bet on it that there will be

1887
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 12: plenty of things to talk about.

1888
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 2: Mark, enjoy your week ahead. Nice punchline there, I'll let

1889
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 2: you have the last word.

1890
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 12: Good stuff, Pal, Thank you, I appreciate you.

1891
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 3: Bernie, you too.

1892
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,479
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1894
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Speaker 2: Hi, right back in the Bernie Frattle Show. Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Look, you

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Speaker 2: heard Mark Medina so eloquently say it, when Lebron returns

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01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 2: to the Lakers, the x's and o's should be read

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Speaker 2: relatively seamless. We had an earlier caller, I think it

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Speaker 2: was Marco, I think from Charlotte. He brought up a

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01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 2: great point and he said, hey, look, Lebron was more

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Speaker 2: than willing to do this last year. And he's not wrong.

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Speaker 2: It was a good call. That where I differ slightly

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Speaker 2: is last year, at this time, I really thought Lebron

1932
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Speaker 2: would be thought he would be offered an extension. Instead,

1933
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 2: the opposite happened. And this is he's essentially a lame

1934
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Speaker 2: duck with the Lakers. And we know I have a

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Speaker 2: situation where the Luca is the centerpiece, and Luca is

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Speaker 2: the one selling tickets more so than Lebron, I believe.

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01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 2: So Mark said, you know, he's got his finger on

1938
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Speaker 2: the pulse. He says, it could be awkward, and we

1939
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 2: don't know how that's going to manifest itself as a

1940
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 2: practical matter. The Lakers. I've said it a thousand times.

1941
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 2: They are an organization. They are a franchise defined by

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01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 2: their eras going back sixty seventy years to Minneapolis, when

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01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 2: they're keep player was George Mikeen, a seven footer. They

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01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 2: won five championships in the Minneapolis Laker era and their

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01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 2: key player was George Miken. Then you had the Jerry

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Speaker 2: West Elgin Baylor era. They won a championship, they reached

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Speaker 2: several ANBA finals. Boston was their nemesis, but that was

1948
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 2: quite an era. And then the one I'm most familiar

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01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 2: with because I was an intern at the Forum for

1950
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 2: three years and Front and Center had full access. They

1951
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 2: showed time Lakers era and Magic's rookie year. I saw

1952
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 2: virtually every game courtside. They were an exciting, running gun style.

1953
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 2: They had five championships. There were nine finals in twelve years.

1954
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 2: Kobe and Shack took over nineteen ninety six. They returned

1955
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Speaker 2: to dominance. They won three consecutive NBA championships from ninety

1956
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 2: nine to oh one. Shack left, Kobe and Paul Gasol rebuilt.

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01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 2: The Lakers returned to championship contention. They won two more

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Speaker 2: titles in nine to oh ten, there was a drought.

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01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: Lebron joined the team in twenty eighteen made them relevant again.

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01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 2: But I've often referred to Lebron air as a bit

1961
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 2: of a clown era. There's just drama, weirdness. In twenty

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01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 2: nineteen they signed them and began a new era. They

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01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 2: won the championship at twenty twenty. He was in the bubble,

1964
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 2: not taking it away from him. It's what I call

1965
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 2: the Hotel California. You can check in anytime, but you

1966
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 2: cannot leave tournament. And everybody was in the same boat.

1967
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 2: But you'll never convince me the Lakers didn't benefit from

1968
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Speaker 2: the fact that didn't have to travel and they had

1969
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 2: three or four months off to lick their wounds before

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Speaker 2: the tournament started.

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Speaker 5: Be that as it made.

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Speaker 2: They did win one. Now the Luca era is here,

1973
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 2: make no mistake, and I'm calling it the no BS era.

1974
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 2: Lucas just kind of an all business guy. Saw how

1975
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 2: he lost the weight over the summer. You see he

1976
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 2: plays hard. We'll see if it manifests itself in championships.

1977
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 2: We'll see, and we'll also see what it's going to

1978
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 2: look like this year. Sooner rather than later. Mark Thing's

1979
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Speaker 2: Lebron could be back by Thanksgiving with his side of

1980
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 2: a nerve a situation, and you'll still have a good

1981
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 2: sixty five games left to go in the season, plenty

1982
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 2: of time to get into the playoffs. And let's see

1983
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 2: what they do. That's where they live. That's the Lakers

1984
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 2: standard championships. But we switch gears. Hey, we're five hours

1985
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Speaker 2: away from kickoff resumption week ten. We already had the

1986
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 2: Raiders Broncos game on Thursday night. Five hours from now,

1987
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Speaker 2: we'll have a game in Germany, Germany, the Indianapolis Colts.

1988
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 2: We will see how they rebound from the situation last week.

1989
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: They face Atlanta. So get your pens and pencils ready,

1990
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 2: because you fantasy owners were coming up on crunch time.

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Speaker 2: It's time for the Fantasy Files.

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Speaker 13: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football segment.

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Speaker 11: Are you on one?

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Speaker 14: God?

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Speaker 2: When?

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Speaker 3: Alrighty?

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Speaker 10: What is up?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Bernie?

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Speaker 23: I am doing it live tonight, and I'm doing it

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Speaker 23: with a little bit of a head cold if my

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01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 23: voice sounds a little bit different, but we will persevere

2003
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 23: with is a city start selection time for this and

2004
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 23: we're gonna start with the Vonte Smith going up against

2005
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 23: the Green Bay Packers. I mean, the upside has been

2006
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 23: vast for a long time with him. You want to

2007
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 23: see more consistency. We're finally seeing it with him and

2008
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 23: Brown and this passing game. Give me Devonte Smith have

2009
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 23: a huge game against Green Bay on a prime time matchup. Now,

2010
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Speaker 23: I would sit Jameson Williams against the Washington Commanders.

2011
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Speaker 2: Two things.

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Speaker 23: One, I'm on Ross Saint Brown as due for a

2013
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 23: big game.

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Speaker 1: He's just due.

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Speaker 23: He didn't have one the last time they played. Jameson

2016
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 23: Williams actually had a touchdown the last time they played.

2017
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Speaker 23: And what have we seen from Jameson Williams throughout not

2018
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 23: only this season, but his career. He has one great game,

2019
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 23: one bad game, one great game, one bad game, and

2020
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 23: there hasn't been a string of great games. And they're

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01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 23: going to be ahead the entire game, which means they

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01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 23: are going to run. So make sure to sit Jameson

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01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:58,600
Speaker 23: Williams against the Washington Commanders. Start Jordan Addison against the

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01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 23: Baltimore Ravens. I really like this matchup for him. I

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01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 23: know Baltimore has looked better offensively, but defensively, they still

2026
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 23: can't guard to Parker.

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01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 2: We all know that.

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Speaker 23: Everybody knows that. And the issue with that is you

2029
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 23: open up for Justin Jefferson. They're gonna try and take

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Speaker 23: him away. Obviously they won't be successful, but I do

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01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,839
Speaker 23: expect Addison to have no pressure on him to perform.

2032
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 23: Obviously with their intentions to stop Justin Jefferson. Big game

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01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 23: for Jordan Addison against a bottom ten pass defense. Now,

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01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 23: this one might be a little questionable. Some people will say,

2035
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 23: but DJ Moore against the New York Giants, Man, I

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01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 23: just think it's a sit. Roma Dunsay's a start at

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Speaker 23: this point. Roma Doonsa had zero fantasy points last week

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Speaker 23: and I'd still start him over Dj Moore. Roma Donzay's

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01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 23: dad came out on social media and was like, Roma

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01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 23: Dunsay needs to get the ball. Marvin Harrison's dad did

2041
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 23: the same thing, Marvin Harrison Junior. Rather, his dad did

2042
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 23: the same thing Marvin Harrison Junior last week and what

2043
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 23: happened twenty plus fantasy points for Mark Harrison Junior. So

2044
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 23: I do think Romadonze can exploit this New York Giants secondary.

2045
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 23: We know where they have a good defensive line, they

2046
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 23: don't have a great secondary.

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01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 14: Sit.

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01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 23: Dj Moore though, because Romadunza is going to have the

2049
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 23: big day, So start Roma Dunza, sit Dj Moore, and

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01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 23: I would actually start Kenneth Walker against Arizona. Kenneth Walker

2051
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 23: always gives you a nine great games. In the rest

2052
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 23: he does absolutely nothing. I get Zach Charbonaguet's goal line touches,

2053
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 23: but the last game he played against Arizona he was

2054
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:30,759
Speaker 23: very efficient. I like Kenneth Walker to get a touchdown

2055
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 23: or two against the Arizona Cardinals, and which should be

2056
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 23: a very close game actually, and I would not be

2057
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 23: shocked if Arizona pulls off the upset. I'd sit Nick

2058
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 23: Chubb against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Really like Jacksonville's defensive line.

2059
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 23: I think this is a game where Houston's going to

2060
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 23: be down the entire game, which means they're not going

2061
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,720
Speaker 23: to run the football. And who's their pass catching back

2062
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 23: what he marks? It's not Nick Chubb, So I would

2063
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 23: make sure to sit Nick Chubb, of course, and look

2064
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 23: another guy that's a lock it and start I just

2065
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 23: mentioned him, Marvin Errison Junior. I mean, you guys should

2066
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 23: be starting him anyways. But people might say, oh, it's

2067
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 23: a tough matchup at Seattle has the number one run

2068
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 23: defense in the NFL, they don't have the number one

2069
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 23: pass defense in the NFL. Marvin Harrison Junior has been

2070
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 23: much better with Jacoby Brissett. I think he's going to

2071
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 23: have an excellent, excellent, excellent matchup. And another guy I love,

2072
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 23: Jalen Warren against the Chargers in primetime. The Steelers aren't

2073
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 23: favored in this game, which is wild considering that they

2074
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 23: basically have a home game because you know, Sofi Stadium

2075
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 23: is more filled out for Rams fans, not Chargers fans,

2076
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 23: but it's mostly the opposing team every time the Chargers

2077
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 23: play there, and the Steelers have a vast fan base,

2078
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 23: so Steelers need this win. Chargers down two linemen, I

2079
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 23: think that they'll be able to control the clock the

2080
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 23: Pittsburgh Steelers and Jalen Warren has a huge game. And

2081
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 23: another guy that I love, lock it in start and

2082
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 23: he should be starting every week. But I just want

2083
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,560
Speaker 23: to remind you guys, DeVante Adams is going to go

2084
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 23: nuclear against San Francisco. This is a game where the

2085
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 23: Rams are going to be super angry about the previous loss.

2086
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,919
Speaker 23: There's no Fred Warner this time for the San Francisco

2087
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 23: forty nine ers, so I am going with Davante Adams

2088
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 23: Karen Williams to both ball out and for San Francisco.

2089
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 23: I do expect Kendrick Bourne to have another big game.

2090
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 23: I do, even with George Kittle still back finally right

2091
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 23: Christ McCaffrey there, I expect Kendrick Bourne not to replicate

2092
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 23: the twenty Fantasy points that he had agains him last time.

2093
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 23: He had like ten or eleven for one hundred and fifty,

2094
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 23: but I do expect him to have fifteen Fantasy points

2095
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 23: and as a solid dart throw flex option. So that

2096
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 23: is Fantasy files for today, and let's all win our matchups.

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Speaker 23: You can find me at PSD takes on x, Brandon

2098
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 23: s Deutsch on TikTok and Instagram. Back to the Bernie

2099
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:41,879
Speaker 23: Frado Show. Let's all win our matchups.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks a lot, and again we have our

2101
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 2: first game here and just under five hours so it

2102
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 2: is upon us. And I'm sure there are plenty of

2103
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:55,560
Speaker 2: owners with the Colts players and Daniel Jones players and

2104
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,679
Speaker 2: things of that nature. And there are buys this week

2105
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 2: angles the Cowboys, the Chiefs and Tennessee. We are in

2106
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 2: that time of year. But I'm sure the fantasy owners

2107
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 2: all certainly are aware of all that. The guys are

2108
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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time devoted to their my sons

2109
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Speaker 2: in a league is in first place right now, they're

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Speaker 2: eight and one, and we'll see how He's got Justin

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Speaker 2: Herbert as his quarterback, and he lost his tight end

2112
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 2: Tucker Craft, but picked up Luke and so we'll look,

2113
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Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes. It's it's never easy, and

2114
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 2: everybody's always dealing with, you know, either injuries or buys

2115
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 2: or something, and juggling lineups and second guessing. So it's

2116
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 2: become quite the thing. Fantasy football is a very big

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01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 2: proposition in this country, really is. That's why we have

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Speaker 2: the Fantasy files every Sunday one thirty a and Pacific

2119
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 2: four to thirty Eastern. And again we're under five hours

2120
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Speaker 2: away from kickoff between in Germany between the Jets to

2121
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 2: check that, between the Colts and Atlanta coming up. You know,

2122
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 2: the NFL Fall meetings have come and gone somewhat quietly.

2123
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell has well, he's been working in pro football

2124
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Speaker 2: for four years and he's not prone to overstatement, but

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Speaker 2: he did basically say he's more excited after four to

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01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 2: four years, about this NFL season than ever, and we'll

2127
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Speaker 2: talk about the subjects that came up in the NFL

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Speaker 2: fall meetings. I'm Bernie Fraddle, Where Comedy Live from the

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked listening

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01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fraddle Show.

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01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:32,480
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radiow.

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01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 2: We're back at the Bernie Fraddle Show. Fox Sports Radio

2133
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,759
Speaker 2: Company live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio students

2134
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 2: will take you after three and Pacific six am Eastern. Now,

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Speaker 2: Roger Goodell's not wrong. Through nine weeks of play TV viewership,

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01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 2: they're averaging almost eighteen million per game. That's the highest

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01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 2: level in ten years when they set the record in

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01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:56,919
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Play on the field has been pretty compelling.

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01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 2: A third of the games they're decided in the final

2140
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,719
Speaker 2: minute of regulation. And even though I hate that goofy

2141
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 2: kickoff rule, the way it looks well, they've doubled the

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01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 2: kickoff return rates to seventy nine percent, which is what

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01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 2: the plan was. So life's good for the NFL, and

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01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:19,560
Speaker 2: competitive balance is good. Six of the eight divisions have

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01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 2: leaders or co leaders that did not win their division

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01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 2: last year, but there's always a big bud pee wee.

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01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 2: There's issues though, still keeping commissioner up at night. Remember

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01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 2: that Pro Bowl, Remember the old Pro Bowl. I don't

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01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 2: know what the hell it is now. It's a cluster,

2150
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 2: is what it is. They've reformatted the event and you've

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01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 2: got a new date, new locale, and what they had

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01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:48,480
Speaker 2: flag football and some kind of I can't intelligently describe

2153
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 2: what the hell the Pro Bowl is now, but I

2154
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 2: know that they have to do something about the Pro

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01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 2: Bowl and the Pro Bowl week. It's evolved into an uncompetitive,

2156
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 2: low contact farce. No one really wants to be there.

2157
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:05,799
Speaker 2: There was a time players loved to go to Hawaii.

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01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 2: The game is competitive. There was pride long gone, long gone. Look,

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01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl is a two week convention for the NFL,

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01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 2: culminating by a game, culminated by a game. I don't

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01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 2: know what the Pro Bowl is anymore, but the NFL's

2162
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,799
Speaker 2: talking about it and they're saying it's a critical priority.

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01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 2: What that means, I don't know, but that was on

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01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 2: the docket, so we'll see what happens. One of the

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Speaker 2: things they talked about in the meetings was the eighteen

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Speaker 2: game season. The NFL has made no secret of their

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01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 2: desire to expand the regular season by another game, but

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Speaker 2: that's got to be collectively bargained, and the Players Association

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01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: is still the midst of They don't even have their

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01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 2: executive director after the resignation of Lloyd Holland July, so

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01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 2: they've got an interim leader right now and negotiations on

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01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 2: that issue are on hold. But if the expanded season happens,

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01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 2: it will open up a lot of new possibilities around

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01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 2: revenue generation, and it will increase their domestic media rights,

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01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 2: and I think we will open the door for additional

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01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 2: international play. So the negotiatings around the hole will make

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01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 2: no mistake. They're headed for a collision course on that,

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Speaker 2: and I believe the NFL will get their eighteenth game

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01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 2: and the union. There will be more money in the

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01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 2: coffers for the players Union. Now, the touch push has

2181
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 2: come up many times on this show. I've had it

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01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 2: as a as a subject matter in the Midnight Hour.

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01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:31,680
Speaker 2: I got no beef for the touch pusch. If you

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01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 2: don't like it, stop it. I know that one of

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01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 2: the rationale in terms of perhaps eliminating it. Someone talked

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01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 2: about the injury factor. That's fortune cookie wisdom. There aren't

2187
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 2: any injuries in the toush Puss that anybody can remember.

2188
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 2: There's been a proposed measure to kill this, you know,

2189
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 2: heavily debated short yardage play. It failed in May, but

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01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 2: that's really not the end of the story. Since the

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01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 2: new season's unfolded, the tush push has only gotten more

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01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 2: difficult to officiate in real time, and the replace you

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01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 2: know show early movement by linemen. And it's not certain

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01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 2: whether a new measures of band to play will surface

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01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 2: in the off season. I predicting you won't because the

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01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 2: team that that you know wrote the referendum to get

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01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: it turned over in the first place is sort of

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01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 2: backed off their demand. There's one team that doesn't well,

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles. Other people have versions of it, they

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01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 2: don't do it as well. And even the Eagles tricked

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01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 2: everybody when they line up in the touch push. It

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01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 2: ended up throwing a pass or running an end run

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01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 2: or something. So look, from an officiating standpoint, that's a

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01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 2: bit of a cluster. I get it. They've got to

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01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 2: get better at identifying when someone is in the neutral

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01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 2: zone and when someone leaves a little early. But beyond that,

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01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 2: I just think it's a lot of sour grapes because

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01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 2: teams can't stop it, and the Eagles seem to have

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01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 2: cornered the market on the touch push TV viewership has

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01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 2: talked about it's not about on eyeballs. That's not an

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01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: issue because when the NFL is king, whenever they're on TV,

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01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 2: they beat everything else by a considerable margin. However, you

2213
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 2: know they're having some issue with the Nielsen Agency, the

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01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 2: measurement agency, and the NFL has raised the flag and

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01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 2: see what I did there, as it pertains to the

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01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 2: belief the NFL believes that the the the you know,

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01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 2: the Nielsen people, they're the the they're the official measurement agency,

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01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 2: that it's all their viewerships not being counted due to

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01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 2: what are considered to be perceived gaps in their methodologies.

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01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't know. Maybe the NFL,

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01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 2: maybe there's even more people watching is not being captured.

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01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 2: Bad Buddy came up. So unless you've been under a

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01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 2: rock or living on Mars or not. Bugs Bunny, not

2224
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 2: the crazy wabbit. We talk about Bad Bunny the rapper.

2225
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 2: He is a rapper from Puerto Rico and Roger Goodell,

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01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 2: I guess took some heat for saying that Bad Bunny

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01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 2: would be the halftime show, but he stood pat at

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01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 2: the meetings and he affirmed there'll be no change. Bad

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01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 2: Bunny will be the headliner. And he's a bit of

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01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 2: a bit of a lightning rod. He's been you know, criticized,

2231
01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 2: and so long and short of it is, the super

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01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 2: Bowl halftime show is going to generate significant viewership like

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01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 2: it always does, and Roger Goodell went on to say,

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01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure we've ever selected an artist where we

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01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 2: didn't have some blowback or criticism. Yeah, I'm gonna have

2236
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 2: to go ahead and disagree with you there, Bill Lumberg.

2237
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 2: We covered the super Bowl in two thousand and six,

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01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 2: and I don't believe anybody was pissed off about Mick

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01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 2: Jagger and the Rolling Stones or when they had the

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Speaker 2: Motown show, or I don't know, did anybody start a

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01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 2: protest where they did up with people back in nineteen

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01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 2: sixty seven or whatever the hell it was. There've been

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01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 2: some damn good halftime shows most and most people don't

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01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't watch them, not that you care, but I

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01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 2: don't watch them. But some of the good ones I watched.

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01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 2: The Bears want a new stadium and new stadiums for

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01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 2: the Bills and Titans. You know the one if you've

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01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 2: seen in the Buffalo Bills on TV. I still call

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01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 2: it the old Rich Stadium, the beautiful, big, beautiful stadium

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Speaker 2: right next door. It's just about finished. And Tennessee there's

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Speaker 2: as well in the construction the Commanders and Browns. Apparently

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01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 2: they're making headway and getting you know, dome versions of

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01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 2: their own new stadiums. The Bengals, Cincinnati Bengals recently got

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01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 2: approval for a major renovation. The Chiefs they're even considering options.

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Speaker 2: I hope they never leave that area though, if you've

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01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 2: ever been to a game, I still call it Arrowhead.

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01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 2: It's just so cool, right next to Kaufman Stadium, where

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01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 2: the world's play. But the Bears have issues. They want

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01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:11,240
Speaker 2: to build a five billion dollars stadium and mixed use

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01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 2: development on their own land way out in suburban Arlington Heights,

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01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 2: and they say they'll pay for most of it themselves.

2262
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 2: But it's getting a lot of sharp criticism from lawmakers

2263
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of unresolved issues now. Roger Goodell,

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01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 2: even though it came up at the meeting, he did

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01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 2: not commit to getting more directly involved in the political

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01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 2: landscape there in Illinois, but he did say the league

2267
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 2: is available to do so if the Bears seek their help.

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01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 2: All right, But moreover, Roger Goodoll's very excited about all

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01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 2: the new stadiums popping up, with these multi generational new

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01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 2: facilities that are glorified. I mean, they're beautiful. They're a huge,

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01:59:55,480 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 2: big conglomerate edifices that have mas of you know, party,

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02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 2: you know, room to whole parties and suites and all

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02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So anyway, the Fall meetings don't

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02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 2: necessarily make a lot of headway in terms of media coverage,

2275
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,120
Speaker 2: but they're there. But I'll tell you what did a

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Speaker 2: pretty raucous trade deadline this last week. If you found

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Speaker 2: yourself looking at the trade line deadline Tuesday and saying, wow,

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02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 2: this seems like a lot busier than usual, you were right.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk about the winners and losers of the NFL

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Speaker 2: trade deadline. Coming up, it's Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fraddle Show keeps

2282
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Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie fraddermock comany lion

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Speaker 2: for the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: take up to three in Pacific six am Eastern. We're

2285
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Speaker 2: only four and a half hours away from the resumption

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Speaker 2: of Week ten in the NFL, another international game in Germany.

2287
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 2: The Colts believe their six point favorites over the Atlanta Falcons.

2288
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:08,120
Speaker 2: So Tuesday was the NFL trade deadline, and most of

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02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 2: the time it's relatively non existent in terms of the

2290
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:19,600
Speaker 2: mainstream and headlines. But if you were on the impression

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02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 2: that this year was a little different and busier, your

2292
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 2: impressions were right. There were eight trades, eight trades made

2293
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 2: on Tuesday before the four o'clock Eastern deadline. That's tied

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Speaker 2: for the second most deals on deadline in the last

2295
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Speaker 2: thirty five years. Now, between October first and the deadline,

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Speaker 2: there were eighteen trades. That's also tied for the most

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Speaker 2: during that time span. A lot of them were inconsequential,

2298
02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:51,880
Speaker 2: like I bet you bet you didn't drop your fork

2299
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:54,320
Speaker 2: when you heard the Bears acquired reserve defensive end Joe

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02:01:54,440 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 2: Tyron Shrinka. I didn't either. But there were some blockbusters

2301
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 2: hop out the New York Jets. They completely blew it up,

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02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 2: as probably they should have. They're one and seven. They're

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02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 2: not going anywhere. So New York was widely expected to

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02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:13,240
Speaker 2: be an active seller at the deadline. But who they

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02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 2: sold is what came as a surprise. They showed the

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02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:21,240
Speaker 2: door to two former All Pro players, cornerback Sauce Gardner.

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02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:23,880
Speaker 2: He went to the Colts. I'm assuming he's going to

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02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:27,680
Speaker 2: play in Germany, and defensive tackle Quinn and Williams to

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02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:31,879
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. And they actually brought They got a boatload

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02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 2: of draft picks in a return. Okay, now, the Sauce

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02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 2: Gardner trade was the most significant of any of the

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Speaker 2: deals made during the entire deadline period, in part because

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02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 2: of what the Colts had to give up to acquire him.

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02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 2: They gave up two first round picks and a receiver,

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02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 2: a Donna Mitchell, and also because remember, Sauce Gardner had

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02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 2: just been signed to a fairly big contract extension just

2317
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 2: five months ago. Four months ago, Gardner's four year extension

2318
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 2: made him the highest paid corner in the NFL and

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02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 2: an average of thirty million dollars per year. But I

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02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:08,280
Speaker 2: believe the Colts are very happy to get him. He's

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Speaker 2: going to join a Colts defense has been good, but

2322
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 2: not great against the pass. Indianapolis the only ranks twenty

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02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 2: sixth in passing yards allowed per game, but that's misleading

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02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 2: well because the Colts have played much of the season

2325
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 2: with big leads and forcing their opponents to go through

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02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 2: the air on the fourth quarter. But be that as

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02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:31,680
Speaker 2: it may, the Indianapolis is respectable now and adding Gardner

2328
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 2: should only strengthen their pass defense now. The return Dallas

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02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 2: scot Or checked at the return the Jets got for

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02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 2: Quinn Williams was also pretty lofty. The Cowboys, well, they

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02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 2: gave up a second round pick in twenty twenty six

2332
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 2: and a first rounder in twenty twenty seven, as well

2333
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 2: as defensive tackle Mazzie Smith out of Michigan, who really

2334
02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 2: isn't panned out in the NFL like I thought he would.

2335
02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 2: But I we had a caller from New York earlier.

2336
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:05,600
Speaker 2: I think it was Kenny. He was ripping Quinn Williams

2337
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 2: and he would know okay, so he probably saw more

2338
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:10,200
Speaker 2: than I did. I high hopes for the guy coming

2339
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:12,960
Speaker 2: into the league. He hasn't performed and that's why he

2340
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:15,600
Speaker 2: was expendable, but Dallas had to give a boatload to

2341
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:19,320
Speaker 2: get him. The good news is he signed through this season.

2342
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 2: Next season, in the twenty seventh season. So if he

2343
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 2: can straighten up and fly right in Dallas, I'm not

2344
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,320
Speaker 2: saying it makes up for Michael Parsons, but what I

2345
02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:32,240
Speaker 2: am saying is Dallas got themselves, I think a potentially

2346
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 2: very good player. So who were the real winners and

2347
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 2: losers of the NFL trade deadline this past week. Well,

2348
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with Sauce Gardner, who I just mentioned

2349
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:49,440
Speaker 2: because it's shocking again he just signed one hundred and

2350
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:54,920
Speaker 2: twenty million dollar contract extension in July. But it's also impactful.

2351
02:04:56,960 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 2: I didn't even know if Soas Gardner was in the

2352
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:02,240
Speaker 2: trade mill and then all of a sudden it's announced,

2353
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:04,960
Speaker 2: And at the time of the extension looks like it

2354
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 2: looked like the Jets were committed to SaaS Gardner for

2355
02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:11,280
Speaker 2: the long term. But then they trade him five months later,

2356
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:15,280
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the team friendly deal. We

2357
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 2: now know why that he gets it a team friendly deal.

2358
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:22,200
Speaker 2: His signing bonus, Gardner's signing bonets when it hits the

2359
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 2: Jets books this year, He's only you know, thirteen million

2360
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:29,720
Speaker 2: in dead cat money because most of Gardner's guaranteed money

2361
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 2: was an option bonuses down the road. Allah show, Yeah, TONI,

2362
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:38,960
Speaker 2: but nothing quite like that. Look, Gardner is only twenty

2363
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:41,080
Speaker 2: five years old. The Colts get a good player, a

2364
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,840
Speaker 2: good bargain the cost of an average of about twenty

2365
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 2: six million, they remaining five years in a deal. And

2366
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 2: if he he's considered more valuable than the other two

2367
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 2: top corners Derek Stingley Junior and Patrick's are Tan or

2368
02:05:57,120 --> 02:06:00,360
Speaker 2: pats are Tann the second in Denver who's currently injured.

2369
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 2: He's considered one of the best top ten covered players

2370
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:08,720
Speaker 2: in the NFL. He's having a bad year in New York.

2371
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 2: This year he was his numbers were not good, but

2372
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 2: allegedly Gardner was blindsided by the deal. He did not

2373
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,240
Speaker 2: ask to get out of New York. But now he

2374
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 2: goes from a team that only won one game all

2375
02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 2: year to a team that's only lost two games in year.

2376
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:29,440
Speaker 2: That's a big move up in the standings. And if Gardner,

2377
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:34,880
Speaker 2: you know, is he is he it becomes that type

2378
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:38,800
Speaker 2: of lockdown player that the Jets needed him to be,

2379
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:41,080
Speaker 2: even though the Jets needed a lot more than that.

2380
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 2: It's a big win for Gardner, it's a big win

2381
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:47,360
Speaker 2: for the Colts and again coming off that extension. It's

2382
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 2: good to be Sauce Gardner right now. The Colts have

2383
02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:54,320
Speaker 2: weakness at the cornerback. There's their cornerback two as long

2384
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:57,360
Speaker 2: as Shivaris war is injured, and their linebackers are not

2385
02:06:57,440 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 2: great in pass coverage, so they need Garden to return

2386
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 2: to his twenty twenty three for him because he can

2387
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:04,320
Speaker 2: take away one side of the field. It's a win

2388
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:09,760
Speaker 2: for Safts Gardner. Deadline loser. I think the Cowboys are

2389
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:13,280
Speaker 2: going to be considered losers in the trade deadline because

2390
02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:18,200
Speaker 2: although Jerry Jones has said he's obsessed with fixing Dallas's

2391
02:07:18,280 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 2: run defense so far, you know, it's like saying the

2392
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:26,360
Speaker 2: operation was a great success, but the patient died, all right,

2393
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:33,680
Speaker 2: Dallas's defense couldn't stop a nosebleed. Now, Quinnon Williams is

2394
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 2: theoretically a big, reliable run defender, and he's still got

2395
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 2: you know, the rest of this season, and his contract

2396
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 2: ends when he's twenty nine. They got it for a

2397
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:51,080
Speaker 2: total of forty seven million for all three years. I mean,

2398
02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 2: that's almost as much as Michael Parsons makes in one year.

2399
02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:55,880
Speaker 2: So nothing against Michael Parsons, but the truth of the

2400
02:07:55,960 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 2: matter is Dallas really would have been in salary cap. Hell,

2401
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:03,200
Speaker 2: had they kept Michael Parsons, you'd had three players Ceee Lamb,

2402
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:06,920
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Michael Parsons take up fifty percent of the

2403
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 2: salary cap. And I'm not you know, I'm kind of

2404
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:15,240
Speaker 2: impressed with the way Brian Schottenheimer's conducted himself in this

2405
02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:19,080
Speaker 2: big mess. But when you consider how much teams like

2406
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 2: Dallas give up, if you just judge his trade in

2407
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 2: a vacuum, you remember, you remember the Cowboys traded Parsons

2408
02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:33,040
Speaker 2: away for two first rounders, all right, and now they

2409
02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:35,360
Speaker 2: give away a first and a second and they get

2410
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 2: Quinn Williams and they're paying Quinn Williams with the money

2411
02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 2: they would have used in part to pay Parsons. So hypothetically,

2412
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:47,080
Speaker 2: this could work out for Dallas, but if you're really

2413
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 2: break it down, it's not smart business. Although you never

2414
02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 2: I'll never bag on Jerry. I know people love the

2415
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 2: bag on the guy. I'm just not one of them.

2416
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:59,160
Speaker 2: But I can't say Dallas came out small like a

2417
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 2: rose in the trade deadline. Here's a winner. Jacoby Myers,

2418
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 2: a wide receiver of the Raiders. Okay, this last summer

2419
02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 2: he really wanted to be traded. He requested to move

2420
02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:16,800
Speaker 2: over the summer, and now he gets traded. But in

2421
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 2: much the same way, Jacoby Myers was a winner because

2422
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 2: for some reason he wanted out of Las Vegas. He's

2423
02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:26,440
Speaker 2: a loser because his new home in Jacksonville. I don't

2424
02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:30,920
Speaker 2: know that the Jacksonville Jaguars offense is appreciably better than

2425
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 2: the Raiders.

2426
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:32,240
Speaker 3: Not good.

2427
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:37,720
Speaker 2: Raiders passing offense not good. Raiders' offense not good. This

2428
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:39,760
Speaker 2: is a team that would have troubles scoring in a

2429
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 2: women's prison with a fifth full of fifties. And by

2430
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,960
Speaker 2: the way, Travis Hunters out and Brian Thomas and Dianmi

2431
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 2: Brown are not healthy. So that's going to create our

2432
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,120
Speaker 2: opportunity for Jacoby Myners, at least in the short term.

2433
02:09:54,200 --> 02:09:56,240
Speaker 2: But he turns twenty ninety as one year remaining on

2434
02:09:56,360 --> 02:10:00,960
Speaker 2: his deal. He could generate a solid market for himself

2435
02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 2: if he, you know, has a good year this year.

2436
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't see Jacksonville as a playoff team,

2437
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:13,920
Speaker 2: and it just they're not buttoned up right now. It's

2438
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:17,200
Speaker 2: not his best landing spot. I think Jakobe Myers would

2439
02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 2: have been a double winner if you ended up in

2440
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,560
Speaker 2: some place like New England or Pittsburgh, but he's happy

2441
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 2: to be out of Los Angeles. Another deadline loser, with

2442
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:29,040
Speaker 2: all due respect the New Orleans Saints. They traded Rashid

2443
02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 2: Shaheed to the Seahawks for a fourth and fifth round selection.

2444
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:37,680
Speaker 2: They got a decent return, all right. It's frustrating though,

2445
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:40,920
Speaker 2: because the Saints acquire a twenty seven year old receiver

2446
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 2: this year where they sent a fourth and seventh round

2447
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 2: pick to the Broncos, and he's barely contributed to the

2448
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:50,480
Speaker 2: Saints offense. So the Saints Cats got worset whide receiver

2449
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:54,200
Speaker 2: in the past few months, and they're losing talent, and

2450
02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:58,880
Speaker 2: they're gaining in cap space, but they're losing talent. I

2451
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:01,840
Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna have to go the deadline winner. The

2452
02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 2: Jets a deadline winner for if you are willing to

2453
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:09,720
Speaker 2: fast forward to twenty twenty seven. Okay, Now the Jets

2454
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 2: start out, they ship off two of their best young players,

2455
02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:16,280
Speaker 2: although I know that the Quinn Williams that's going to

2456
02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:19,560
Speaker 2: be debatable. But they added three first round picks, a

2457
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:23,120
Speaker 2: second pick, second round pick, two young players in a

2458
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:26,800
Speaker 2: matter of four hours. Now, in terms of long team

2459
02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:30,880
Speaker 2: I'll check that long term, a long term view on

2460
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 2: reconstructing this team. The Jets have a chance to turn

2461
02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:37,840
Speaker 2: their over, you know, the roster, in much the same

2462
02:11:37,880 --> 02:11:40,360
Speaker 2: way the Lions did a few years ago. Think about

2463
02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:43,560
Speaker 2: how Detroit nailed the twenty twenty three draft because they

2464
02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:45,760
Speaker 2: got two first round picks and two second round picks.

2465
02:11:46,080 --> 02:11:48,960
Speaker 2: They got Jamiir Gibbs, Jack Campbell, Sam Laporte, and Brian

2466
02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 2: branch not bad well. The Jets have two first and

2467
02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 2: two seconds next year. Also, one loaded draft class can

2468
02:11:57,480 --> 02:12:02,440
Speaker 2: fundamentally change a franchise's future. You don't believe me. Paigrin

2469
02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:07,120
Speaker 2: herkle herschel Walker nineteen eighty nine, that built the foundation

2470
02:12:07,240 --> 02:12:09,400
Speaker 2: of the Cowboys to win three Super Bowls in the nineties.

2471
02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is that. But as you can see,

2472
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:16,640
Speaker 2: the Lions have been very relevant in the last three years.

2473
02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:20,400
Speaker 2: And all those players I just mentioned, Jack Campbell and

2474
02:12:20,440 --> 02:12:23,560
Speaker 2: Brian Branch on defense, Sam laport and Jamier Games Out offense.

2475
02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:30,120
Speaker 2: They're all franchise type players. So the Jets are a

2476
02:12:30,280 --> 02:12:35,680
Speaker 2: winner in this year's draft deadline if you fast forward

2477
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:40,280
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty seven, but they're also a loser when

2478
02:12:40,360 --> 02:12:45,720
Speaker 2: it comes to twenty twenty five. Okay, so to add

2479
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:51,520
Speaker 2: some similars to be clear about this, you can understand

2480
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 2: at least in theory of what the Jets are doing

2481
02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 2: and why they're doing it, But everything else beyond that

2482
02:12:57,360 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 2: is theoretical. It's hypothetical future drafts. You hope they work out,

2483
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:08,480
Speaker 2: But as Arnie likes to say, the shows tonight, the

2484
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:12,760
Speaker 2: games are today. The Jets lost two excellent young players. Okay,

2485
02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:15,880
Speaker 2: those are the types of players they hope to draft

2486
02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:19,560
Speaker 2: and develop over the next two draft classes. So you know,

2487
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:23,960
Speaker 2: I've backed down the Raiders call me an idiot, but

2488
02:13:24,040 --> 02:13:26,280
Speaker 2: I still think they should have never traded Khalil Mack.

2489
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:28,000
Speaker 2: I was told they'd be in Sally cap Hell, but

2490
02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:30,320
Speaker 2: what the hell have they done with it since? And

2491
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:33,720
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have traded Josh Jacobs, but they did so

2492
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:35,960
Speaker 2: they got action gent and I don't know who. Look,

2493
02:13:36,040 --> 02:13:39,520
Speaker 2: Max Crofty's a fine player, but what are they doing?

2494
02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 2: So you can move chess pieces around? But you know,

2495
02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:47,800
Speaker 2: the risk reward is always something you really have to weigh.

2496
02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:52,840
Speaker 2: Because the in every major league sport, make no mistake,

2497
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:57,720
Speaker 2: the future is now. Fan bases are impatient and picks

2498
02:13:57,760 --> 02:14:01,240
Speaker 2: and plans are gambles. You gotta make smart ones. Now

2499
02:14:01,280 --> 02:14:05,480
Speaker 2: on paper, it looks like the Jets have, but for today,

2500
02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:08,880
Speaker 2: when the game is played, they got dramatically worse on defense.

2501
02:14:09,320 --> 02:14:13,000
Speaker 2: They lost young stars, all pro players stole in their prime.

2502
02:14:13,480 --> 02:14:17,960
Speaker 2: You gotta be honest here, some very good top flight

2503
02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 2: players who were certainly highly regarded were sent packing in

2504
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:25,160
Speaker 2: New York so the new front office and new coaching

2505
02:14:25,240 --> 02:14:28,400
Speaker 2: staff could have a better chance with a blank slate,

2506
02:14:29,080 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 2: to build it their way with the stockpiling of draft choices.

2507
02:14:33,160 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 2: Not a guarantee, I see, does guarante? You know those

2508
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:42,400
Speaker 2: disclaimers future you know, if future performance is not guaranteed

2509
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:44,480
Speaker 2: or something, whatever the hell it says. You know what

2510
02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. They're trying to build a competitive roster,

2511
02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:50,480
Speaker 2: but they're down two players that they thought they were

2512
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:53,200
Speaker 2: building a competitive roster with when they were drafted three

2513
02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:57,240
Speaker 2: years ago, Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams. If you're telling

2514
02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:59,440
Speaker 2: me the Jets are better this week then they were

2515
02:14:59,560 --> 02:15:03,120
Speaker 2: last week, I'm saying no, And they weren't very good

2516
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:07,000
Speaker 2: last week and now they're worse. But when you trade

2517
02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:10,840
Speaker 2: good players away, you get draft capital. Here's a chance

2518
02:15:10,920 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 2: to remake yourself. How about one deadline winner the Baltimore Ravens.

2519
02:15:17,480 --> 02:15:20,920
Speaker 2: They executed three trades before the deadline this year. They

2520
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 2: got an edge rusher Dumont Jones from Tennessee. And since

2521
02:15:26,200 --> 02:15:30,240
Speaker 2: we by the way, by the way, I'm not going

2522
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:31,720
Speaker 2: to go for all their trades. The truth of the

2523
02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 2: matter is Baltimore has been thin along the defensive line

2524
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:40,560
Speaker 2: all season, and Jones is going to provide snaps on

2525
02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:44,280
Speaker 2: the edge and the interior, and he's got a high

2526
02:15:44,320 --> 02:15:48,360
Speaker 2: ceiling and he provides depth. And so in terms of

2527
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:51,800
Speaker 2: the Alohai Gildman trade, the safety the Ravens acquired with

2528
02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:54,640
Speaker 2: the fifth rounder from the Chargers in exchange for A

2529
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:57,720
Speaker 2: Daffiola and a seventh rounder, he's already made a big impact.

2530
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:02,240
Speaker 2: Remember that you October you can start trading October first.

2531
02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:05,800
Speaker 2: This was just the deadline. The Ravens also sent Jaire

2532
02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:08,240
Speaker 2: Alexander and the seventh round pick to the Eagles for

2533
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:11,840
Speaker 2: a sixth So the Ravens, if you pay close attention,

2534
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:16,120
Speaker 2: had a good deadline. The New England Patriots not so much.

2535
02:16:16,360 --> 02:16:18,320
Speaker 2: Of all the teams that stood pad at the deadline,

2536
02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:21,560
Speaker 2: as you notice, Tampa Bay didn't do anything. Denver didn't

2537
02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:25,160
Speaker 2: do anything. The Steelers didn't do anything. I think it's

2538
02:16:25,640 --> 02:16:29,400
Speaker 2: surprising that the Patriots didn't. The Colt Scott aggressive they

2539
02:16:29,440 --> 02:16:33,119
Speaker 2: wanted a blue chip player. You can see what they're

2540
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:36,240
Speaker 2: trying to do. But the Patriots have really shown flashes

2541
02:16:36,280 --> 02:16:40,880
Speaker 2: are looking like a legitimate AFC contender. Drake May is

2542
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:43,560
Speaker 2: everything you could ever want for in a young quarterback

2543
02:16:43,560 --> 02:16:46,720
Speaker 2: and he's playing on a rookie contract. The Patriots do

2544
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:51,680
Speaker 2: have good depth along their interior lines, solid play. They

2545
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 2: got French starters that play well, and I think they

2546
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:00,840
Speaker 2: could have made a move or two to you turned

2547
02:17:00,879 --> 02:17:02,880
Speaker 2: them into a team that could make noise in the playoffs.

2548
02:17:02,920 --> 02:17:08,160
Speaker 2: But again, water under the bridge. Finally, one deadline loser,

2549
02:17:08,360 --> 02:17:14,280
Speaker 2: running back Breshall. I thought for sure Bresaw was gonna

2550
02:17:14,360 --> 02:17:17,359
Speaker 2: end up in Kansas City. I think there was dialogue,

2551
02:17:17,879 --> 02:17:22,480
Speaker 2: The Chiefs were interested. Breswall wanted out. At the end

2552
02:17:22,520 --> 02:17:24,720
Speaker 2: of the day, Bresall is staying in New York. He

2553
02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:28,160
Speaker 2: even tweeted out saying you wanted He was implying he

2554
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 2: wanted to get out of New York and then waited

2555
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:34,560
Speaker 2: by his phone and the call never came. So Brisall, unfortunately,

2556
02:17:34,640 --> 02:17:37,680
Speaker 2: I think is a Bristall's not a loser, but in

2557
02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:45,160
Speaker 2: terms of the deadline, he trade deadline aspect of Brestaw's career,

2558
02:17:45,520 --> 02:17:47,440
Speaker 2: he didn't come out of winter. I think it's a

2559
02:17:47,480 --> 02:17:52,520
Speaker 2: little surprising the Jets didn't move Brisaw. I was told

2560
02:17:52,560 --> 02:17:54,520
Speaker 2: they wanted a fourth round pick and the Chiefs would

2561
02:17:54,520 --> 02:17:57,440
Speaker 2: only offer a fifth round pick. I don't know. I

2562
02:17:57,840 --> 02:17:59,720
Speaker 2: didn't do that much research like I've done with some

2563
02:17:59,760 --> 02:18:02,760
Speaker 2: of the things. But he's having a good season. Bristaw

2564
02:18:02,879 --> 02:18:05,360
Speaker 2: is only twenty four years old, should have another full

2565
02:18:05,440 --> 02:18:08,360
Speaker 2: contracts worth a good football ahead of them. It's always

2566
02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:12,120
Speaker 2: he could be franchise tagged fourteen million, transition tagged, and

2567
02:18:12,280 --> 02:18:15,320
Speaker 2: that's relatively cheap these days, even for the running back position.

2568
02:18:16,240 --> 02:18:19,320
Speaker 2: So you know, Bresaw seems like a really good dude.

2569
02:18:19,360 --> 02:18:21,440
Speaker 2: I can't picture of making a stink this offseason. Try

2570
02:18:21,480 --> 02:18:22,520
Speaker 2: to get out of New York to go to a

2571
02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:25,880
Speaker 2: more competitive team. But the Jets hold all the cards.

2572
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:28,080
Speaker 2: Then they can retain him and control them for another year.

2573
02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:30,840
Speaker 2: But again, the Chiefs, who need better play for the

2574
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:34,560
Speaker 2: running back position desperately. Man, that would have been cool

2575
02:18:34,600 --> 02:18:37,040
Speaker 2: seeing brees Haall in Kansas City. I thought for sure

2576
02:18:37,760 --> 02:18:39,840
Speaker 2: he was going there, I really did, but he didn't.

2577
02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:42,920
Speaker 2: So he'll be stuck in New York grinding away three

2578
02:18:43,040 --> 02:18:45,879
Speaker 2: or three or four yards of carry while the Jets

2579
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:52,640
Speaker 2: attempt to impersonate an NFL team. By the way, if

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Speaker 2: Before we get to the world of soccer, we'd like

2595
02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:47,920
Speaker 2: to get something off my chest. Here's a team in

2596
02:19:47,959 --> 02:19:51,920
Speaker 2: the National Football League that's believe there's seven and two

2597
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:55,080
Speaker 2: and people are calling them frauds. I'm gonna address them

2598
02:19:55,120 --> 02:19:57,959
Speaker 2: a second, but always cracks me up into that team's

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02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:01,360
Speaker 2: a fraud. There a fraud. I have a little bit

2600
02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:04,160
Speaker 2: of a law background, and I well a little fun

2601
02:20:04,280 --> 02:20:08,920
Speaker 2: here for you law buffs out there. And this is

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02:20:08,959 --> 02:20:10,680
Speaker 2: why I would It always bugs me when I hear

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02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:14,359
Speaker 2: somebody calling a team of fraud. There are five elements

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02:20:14,440 --> 02:20:17,800
Speaker 2: of fraud in the legal world. One, you have to

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02:20:17,840 --> 02:20:20,080
Speaker 2: provide a false statement as a material fact.

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02:20:20,920 --> 02:20:21,080
Speaker 3: Right.

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02:20:22,040 --> 02:20:25,279
Speaker 2: Let's say like you're trying to get somebody to invest

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02:20:25,320 --> 02:20:29,520
Speaker 2: in your business, but you give a false statement to

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02:20:29,680 --> 02:20:33,200
Speaker 2: potential investors. The second thing is you knew the information

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02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:37,640
Speaker 2: was giving you were giving was correct. Okay, the information

2611
02:20:37,720 --> 02:20:42,240
Speaker 2: you gave was incorrect, right, but you knew it was incorrect,

2612
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:46,000
Speaker 2: you did it anyway. And the third part of the

2613
02:20:46,040 --> 02:20:49,320
Speaker 2: element of fraud is you intended. You intended to deceive

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02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:55,400
Speaker 2: the victim. Fraud is intentional. You cannot accidentally deceive somebody

2615
02:20:56,200 --> 02:20:59,720
Speaker 2: or mist lead somebody. You intend to deceive them, right,

2616
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:02,320
Speaker 2: you provide a false statement as if it was a

2617
02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:05,840
Speaker 2: material fact, you knew the information was incorrect. And three,

2618
02:21:05,920 --> 02:21:09,840
Speaker 2: you intended to deceive the victim. The fourth element is

2619
02:21:09,959 --> 02:21:16,280
Speaker 2: the victim relied on your false statement. They counted on

2620
02:21:16,400 --> 02:21:20,960
Speaker 2: the information that you gave them as being gospel. But

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02:21:21,080 --> 02:21:23,360
Speaker 2: the fifth element, and this is perhaps the most important one,

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02:21:23,959 --> 02:21:27,120
Speaker 2: the victim had to suffer damage as a result of

2623
02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:31,880
Speaker 2: trusting and relying on your false information, and you have

2624
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:36,840
Speaker 2: to mitigate your law. You have to show damages. Okay,

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02:21:37,120 --> 02:21:43,320
Speaker 2: these are the five elements that comprise fraud charges. So

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02:21:43,480 --> 02:21:46,039
Speaker 2: when someone says that team's a fraud, are they really

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02:21:46,120 --> 02:21:49,600
Speaker 2: intending to deceive you and lose games? And they're telling

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02:21:49,680 --> 02:21:51,440
Speaker 2: you what they're trying to do and you're relying on

2629
02:21:51,520 --> 02:21:54,119
Speaker 2: their statement, it's false and you suffered real damages because

2630
02:21:54,120 --> 02:21:56,800
Speaker 2: they intended to deceive you. So they're talking about the

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02:21:57,120 --> 02:22:03,120
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos odd narrative is gaining traction because, well, I

2632
02:22:03,200 --> 02:22:05,600
Speaker 2: get it that the offense has been inconsistent. They do

2633
02:22:05,720 --> 02:22:09,320
Speaker 2: have a strong defense, but you don't go seven to

2634
02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:13,480
Speaker 2: two in the National Football League by accident. Now, critics

2635
02:22:13,480 --> 02:22:17,120
Speaker 2: are gonna say, yeah, they're winning, but they're winning by

2636
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:19,160
Speaker 2: the skin of their teeth, and they're winning close games

2637
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:22,520
Speaker 2: and they're relying on their defense, and their defense isn't

2638
02:22:22,520 --> 02:22:24,000
Speaker 2: gonna be able to carry them all year. But the

2639
02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:27,680
Speaker 2: defenses is very much a strength. They lead the league

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02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:29,760
Speaker 2: in sacks, and the defense is going to keep them

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02:22:29,800 --> 02:22:33,720
Speaker 2: in any game. Defense travels. The offense is drawing a

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02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:38,840
Speaker 2: lot of heavy criticism because well, they've been inconsistent. The

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02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:42,560
Speaker 2: National Football League is easy, and people say, well, you know,

2644
02:22:42,600 --> 02:22:45,160
Speaker 2: they're living in dying in one score games. That's the

2645
02:22:45,240 --> 02:22:47,880
Speaker 2: symptom of not being a great team, but rather a

2646
02:22:47,959 --> 02:22:52,560
Speaker 2: team they can't put teams away. So the public perception

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02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:54,800
Speaker 2: and the fraud label of the narrative, the group think

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02:22:54,840 --> 02:23:00,680
Speaker 2: echo chamber chamber is starting to you know, characterized the

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02:23:00,760 --> 02:23:04,240
Speaker 2: Broncos as frauds, even though they still have the tenth

2650
02:23:04,320 --> 02:23:07,359
Speaker 2: pet dodds to win the Super Bowl according to FanDuel.

2651
02:23:07,360 --> 02:23:09,840
Speaker 2: Although people say they don't deserve to be there three

2652
02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:14,080
Speaker 2: reasons they think Bodenecks is way too inconsistent and uh,

2653
02:23:14,959 --> 02:23:17,959
Speaker 2: Thursday night, a lot of penalties and the offense looked

2654
02:23:18,480 --> 02:23:21,960
Speaker 2: not great and they're putting that on bo Nix. He

2655
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:24,560
Speaker 2: played his worst game of the season, sixteen to twenty

2656
02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:28,600
Speaker 2: eight for a buck fifty. Struggled to run too, but

2657
02:23:30,080 --> 02:23:33,080
Speaker 2: they won, okay, and this is a national win. The

2658
02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:36,400
Speaker 2: game that's right, thank you. And the bottom line is, look,

2659
02:23:36,800 --> 02:23:38,840
Speaker 2: I covered the Lions for ten years and I covered

2660
02:23:38,879 --> 02:23:43,120
Speaker 2: at TV one one sixteen, two thousand and eight, two

2661
02:23:43,160 --> 02:23:45,800
Speaker 2: thousand and eight. Yeah, Rod Marinelli. So if you win,

2662
02:23:45,879 --> 02:23:46,160
Speaker 2: you win.

2663
02:23:46,720 --> 02:23:46,879
Speaker 3: Now.

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02:23:46,959 --> 02:23:49,520
Speaker 2: The running game has also not been great JK. Dobbins.

2665
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:55,160
Speaker 2: You know Grant for seventy seven yards, which is a

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02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:57,480
Speaker 2: little deceiving because most of those were in the fourth

2667
02:23:57,560 --> 02:23:59,600
Speaker 2: quarter and the Broncos were trying to sult the game away.

2668
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:05,040
Speaker 2: But the narrative is the Broncos win close games, are

2669
02:24:05,080 --> 02:24:08,720
Speaker 2: inconsistent bolnecks. Isn't that good? And the belief is that

2670
02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:13,920
Speaker 2: the defense can't carry the offense all season. Now I

2671
02:24:13,959 --> 02:24:16,880
Speaker 2: don't I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that.

2672
02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 2: Did you forget what they did ten years ago against

2673
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:25,040
Speaker 2: Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers. You know, Peyton Manning

2674
02:24:26,360 --> 02:24:29,160
Speaker 2: was was at the very end of his game. Now,

2675
02:24:29,240 --> 02:24:33,359
Speaker 2: he threw a past the beginning of the name across

2676
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:35,640
Speaker 2: the seam that went for fifteen yards. It was awesome,

2677
02:24:36,600 --> 02:24:38,560
Speaker 2: But it was really the Broncos defense that won that

2678
02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:41,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. And we've seen the We've seen the Ravens

2679
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:45,920
Speaker 2: do that with Trent dilferd Okay, but the narrative is

2680
02:24:46,040 --> 02:24:51,280
Speaker 2: also that this Bronco defense hasn't really been tested and

2681
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:53,800
Speaker 2: a better offense could put up points. And yes, the

2682
02:24:53,879 --> 02:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Broncos defense dominated the Raiders, but what will look like

2683
02:24:58,360 --> 02:25:01,360
Speaker 2: when they play the Chiefs or the charge Argers. Okay? Now,

2684
02:25:01,440 --> 02:25:03,480
Speaker 2: by the way, the Broncos have already played the Chargers

2685
02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:07,000
Speaker 2: and lost twenty three to twenty Week three. They also

2686
02:25:07,040 --> 02:25:10,000
Speaker 2: lost twenty nine to twenty to the Indianapolis Colts. However,

2687
02:25:10,120 --> 02:25:15,040
Speaker 2: they did beat the Philadelphia Eagles. So in Week eleven,

2688
02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:17,920
Speaker 2: the Broncos are going to host Mahomes in Kansas City

2689
02:25:18,360 --> 02:25:21,879
Speaker 2: in Chiefs, and then they'll head to the Washington Commanders.

2690
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:24,200
Speaker 2: They won't have to face Jade Daniels. Then they'll head

2691
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:26,280
Speaker 2: to Green Bay, and then they got a Christmas Day

2692
02:25:26,320 --> 02:25:28,800
Speaker 2: game at Arrowhead Stadium against the Chiefs and Chargers. So

2693
02:25:28,920 --> 02:25:32,800
Speaker 2: at some point the narrative will be the Broncos are

2694
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:36,520
Speaker 2: living up to what their building was hopefully was. But

2695
02:25:36,640 --> 02:25:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm not calling on frauds. Okay, they still think they're

2696
02:25:39,680 --> 02:25:43,480
Speaker 2: going to the playoffs. It just said it's a common

2697
02:25:44,320 --> 02:25:48,640
Speaker 2: moniker that people unfairly put on teams when they're rooting

2698
02:25:48,680 --> 02:25:51,040
Speaker 2: against them, or perhaps they're not living up to the

2699
02:25:51,080 --> 02:25:53,640
Speaker 2: potential that people thought they had. But I do not

2700
02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:57,040
Speaker 2: believe you could be seven to two and be a

2701
02:25:57,080 --> 02:26:00,400
Speaker 2: fraud in the National Football League. Trust me, I covered

2702
02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:03,400
Speaker 2: an NFL team for ten years. It ain't easy going

2703
02:26:03,480 --> 02:26:05,200
Speaker 2: seven to two. So we'll see where it goes from here.

2704
02:26:05,760 --> 02:26:08,200
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll revisit this, Maybe we'll do this in a

2705
02:26:08,240 --> 02:26:11,200
Speaker 2: midnight hour coming up. In the meantime, we covered all

2706
02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:15,200
Speaker 2: here on the Bernie Fraddle Show, including the sports felt futbol,

2707
02:26:15,360 --> 02:26:19,160
Speaker 2: football that we call soccer. It's time for Chris Perfett's

2708
02:26:19,160 --> 02:26:19,720
Speaker 2: World of Soccer.

2709
02:26:21,400 --> 02:26:31,879
Speaker 13: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

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02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:39,920
Speaker 1: Hi, it's all here in this report from the world

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02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:40,640
Speaker 1: of Soccer.

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02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:42,000
Speaker 24: Well, Bernie, here we are.

2713
02:26:42,120 --> 02:26:45,680
Speaker 25: We are at the doorstep of the final match of

2714
02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:50,440
Speaker 25: Round one of the MLS Cup playoffs. So just in

2715
02:26:50,560 --> 02:26:53,240
Speaker 25: case we've all forgotten how the MLS Cup format works,

2716
02:26:53,320 --> 02:26:55,520
Speaker 25: just because it seems to change almost every year, and

2717
02:26:55,560 --> 02:26:58,000
Speaker 25: you might as well rite the rules on a whiteboard.

2718
02:26:58,480 --> 02:27:02,360
Speaker 25: Round one, which is actually after the wild card, is

2719
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:05,680
Speaker 25: a best of three, and then the conference semi finals,

2720
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:07,960
Speaker 25: the Conference finals in the MLS Cup itself are all

2721
02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:11,720
Speaker 25: single elimination matches, as was the wildcard round before this

2722
02:27:12,320 --> 02:27:15,720
Speaker 25: for eight versus nine, So this is the only round

2723
02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:19,320
Speaker 25: that is best of three. We've already seen Philadelphia, New

2724
02:27:19,400 --> 02:27:24,880
Speaker 25: York City, Cincinnati, Minnesota, LAFC, and Vancouver all move on.

2725
02:27:25,400 --> 02:27:29,760
Speaker 25: On Sunday, you will have San Diego against the Portland Timbers.

2726
02:27:30,160 --> 02:27:34,320
Speaker 25: But I want to talk about Leonel Messi because this

2727
02:27:34,760 --> 02:27:37,600
Speaker 25: is the Leonel Messi we've kind of been promised for

2728
02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:40,000
Speaker 25: these playoffs. After a bit of a slump near the

2729
02:27:40,120 --> 02:27:44,000
Speaker 25: end of the year, Leonel Messi turned on against Atlanta

2730
02:27:44,400 --> 02:27:47,720
Speaker 25: on the penultimate game of the MLS season back in October,

2731
02:27:47,800 --> 02:27:51,280
Speaker 25: he had two goals. Against Nashville on the final game

2732
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:54,320
Speaker 25: of the regular season, he had three, and then you

2733
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:58,160
Speaker 25: pull Nashville again in the Round one of the MLS Cup.

2734
02:27:58,440 --> 02:28:00,880
Speaker 24: In the first game which Miami won, he had two goals.

2735
02:28:01,320 --> 02:28:03,680
Speaker 25: Then he had a goal last Saturday and a losing

2736
02:28:03,760 --> 02:28:07,560
Speaker 25: effort which gave us a defining Game three between Inter

2737
02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:11,760
Speaker 25: Miami and Nashville. And that game, which is now final,

2738
02:28:12,440 --> 02:28:15,760
Speaker 25: saw Leonel Messi score a brace, which is two goals.

2739
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:20,119
Speaker 24: So did his teammate Allende. So four nil. Your final

2740
02:28:20,240 --> 02:28:21,680
Speaker 24: score inter Miami.

2741
02:28:21,800 --> 02:28:23,840
Speaker 25: Moving on, you can start to do the math here

2742
02:28:24,320 --> 02:28:27,080
Speaker 25: on how many goals Messi has suddenly been up to

2743
02:28:27,640 --> 02:28:30,840
Speaker 25: in the last five matches he's played, not counting, of course,

2744
02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:36,520
Speaker 25: the international Argentinian appearance against Puerto Rico, but in MLS

2745
02:28:36,640 --> 02:28:41,160
Speaker 25: that racks up to about ten goals in five matches.

2746
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:46,840
Speaker 25: It's a tremendous, eye watering, staggering amount. And has Lionel

2747
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:49,840
Speaker 25: Messi been saving himself for the MLS Cup playoffs, Well,

2748
02:28:49,879 --> 02:28:51,920
Speaker 25: we would hope. So he is the weapon, he is

2749
02:28:51,959 --> 02:28:54,240
Speaker 25: their best chance, and he is what they want to

2750
02:28:54,320 --> 02:28:58,640
Speaker 25: put on the big stage. It is again, if you've

2751
02:28:58,680 --> 02:29:00,760
Speaker 25: missed some of this, I cannot blame you. It is

2752
02:29:00,879 --> 02:29:05,320
Speaker 25: on Apple TV Plus and the MLS Season pass. Apple

2753
02:29:05,400 --> 02:29:07,440
Speaker 25: TV Plus has kind of become the home for a

2754
02:29:07,520 --> 02:29:11,160
Speaker 25: lot of, shall we say, the international style of sports,

2755
02:29:11,480 --> 02:29:14,160
Speaker 25: especially as they also picked up Formula one, which was

2756
02:29:14,600 --> 02:29:18,200
Speaker 25: in a lot of people's wheelhouse. Some early mornings amongst

2757
02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:20,160
Speaker 25: some have been trend you sorts kind of like what

2758
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:23,280
Speaker 25: you know soccer was for a long time, with more

2759
02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:27,320
Speaker 25: healed sports fans in the Eastern United States getting up

2760
02:29:27,360 --> 02:29:29,800
Speaker 25: early for the Premier League like I do. Although I

2761
02:29:29,920 --> 02:29:31,480
Speaker 25: kind of do that because I am a freak and

2762
02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:33,960
Speaker 25: I love this sport. So we'll have to keep an

2763
02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:38,560
Speaker 25: eye as the MLS Cup continues. Meanwhile, out in Europe,

2764
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:40,119
Speaker 25: a real shake up.

2765
02:29:40,120 --> 02:29:41,040
Speaker 24: In the Premier League.

2766
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:43,720
Speaker 25: Arsenal actually got held to a two two draw at

2767
02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:47,760
Speaker 25: Sunderland on Saturday. It has stopped them from really opening

2768
02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:52,960
Speaker 25: up a massive lead here at the third way mark

2769
02:29:53,240 --> 02:29:57,280
Speaker 25: of the Premier League season, they now set only six

2770
02:29:57,400 --> 02:30:02,120
Speaker 25: points above Chelsea, man City and aforementioned Sunderland at nineteen

2771
02:30:02,560 --> 02:30:05,600
Speaker 25: on their heels, while Liverpool has kind of dropped into

2772
02:30:05,680 --> 02:30:09,680
Speaker 25: a tied with for five to six with Tottenham. The

2773
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:14,800
Speaker 25: defending champions after a tremendous start once again have dropped

2774
02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:19,320
Speaker 25: four games since we last I think really talked a

2775
02:30:19,400 --> 02:30:21,800
Speaker 25: lot about it. They got their teeth kicked in in

2776
02:30:21,879 --> 02:30:25,440
Speaker 25: the Carabell Cup by Crystal Palace. They dropped a match

2777
02:30:25,520 --> 02:30:28,560
Speaker 25: a while back to Manchester United before then going on

2778
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:31,320
Speaker 25: a tear picking up two wins in the Premier League

2779
02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:34,200
Speaker 25: and also picking up two wins in the Champions League,

2780
02:30:34,200 --> 02:30:36,240
Speaker 25: which is ongoing and we'll touch on that soon enough.

2781
02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:41,560
Speaker 25: But this match here eleven thirty am Eastern Time on

2782
02:30:41,720 --> 02:30:46,760
Speaker 25: November ninth, Sunday, Liverpool at Manchester City might be a

2783
02:30:46,800 --> 02:30:49,960
Speaker 25: pretty good test for both clubs, especially for Liverpool to

2784
02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:53,880
Speaker 25: get back on track and try to get to what

2785
02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:57,440
Speaker 25: we expect the boys Manfield to do. Manchester City has

2786
02:30:57,520 --> 02:30:59,879
Speaker 25: been getting back to form. It's not at six, one,

2787
02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:02,280
Speaker 25: one and three. Maybe it's not the most dominant start

2788
02:31:02,320 --> 02:31:06,920
Speaker 25: they've had, but Earling Holland looks fantastic. How fantastic you ask.

2789
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:09,360
Speaker 25: He's gotten ten starts in the Premier League and he

2790
02:31:09,440 --> 02:31:13,080
Speaker 25: has thirteen goals, and with the twenty twenty six World

2791
02:31:13,160 --> 02:31:17,080
Speaker 25: Cup draw just a month away, Norway, the country of

2792
02:31:17,120 --> 02:31:20,480
Speaker 25: which Holland belongs to, has two more matches to play,

2793
02:31:20,600 --> 02:31:24,240
Speaker 25: once against Estonia and one against Italy, who's three points

2794
02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:27,000
Speaker 25: behind them. They sit atop the standings right now in

2795
02:31:27,240 --> 02:31:31,080
Speaker 25: Group I. If they get number one, they automatically qualify

2796
02:31:31,160 --> 02:31:33,680
Speaker 25: for the World Cup. Position two qualifies for the World

2797
02:31:33,720 --> 02:31:35,800
Speaker 25: Cup playoffs. There's a good chance they'll be in there.

2798
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:39,440
Speaker 25: Estonia should probably be easy points for them at a

2799
02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:43,680
Speaker 25: plus twenty six goal differential, which is extremely eye watering

2800
02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:47,800
Speaker 25: to see right now. Italy and Norway already played once

2801
02:31:48,280 --> 02:31:51,640
Speaker 25: so far in these qualifiers, and we must remind people

2802
02:31:51,760 --> 02:31:55,360
Speaker 25: that the tiebreaker would go to gold differential here, of

2803
02:31:55,480 --> 02:31:58,199
Speaker 25: which Norway has a massive lead. But in case Norway

2804
02:31:58,280 --> 02:32:01,080
Speaker 25: does stumble, it does leave a final match against Italy

2805
02:32:01,160 --> 02:32:04,160
Speaker 25: at the end of the qualifier rounds. I've got to say,

2806
02:32:04,640 --> 02:32:07,560
Speaker 25: come the World Cup, Norway will absolutely be a country

2807
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,000
Speaker 25: to keep an eye on. And I would say eighty

2808
02:32:10,040 --> 02:32:12,840
Speaker 25: percent of that is because of Earling Holland. We mentioned

2809
02:32:12,879 --> 02:32:16,080
Speaker 25: his pace for man City thirteen goals and ten matches.

2810
02:32:16,520 --> 02:32:21,199
Speaker 25: Well for Norway he's had twelve goals in six matches.

2811
02:32:21,400 --> 02:32:23,560
Speaker 25: We'll see you next time, Bernie. On the world of soccer,

2812
02:32:25,280 --> 02:32:26,520
Speaker 25: all right, the world of soccer.

2813
02:32:26,959 --> 02:32:30,800
Speaker 2: And we're spout six seven weeks a week from six

2814
02:32:30,959 --> 02:32:32,880
Speaker 2: or seven weeks away from the new year, which means

2815
02:32:32,920 --> 02:32:36,320
Speaker 2: we will be in another World Cup year, which is

2816
02:32:36,400 --> 02:32:39,640
Speaker 2: when we started this old World Cup Soccer thing back

2817
02:32:39,720 --> 02:32:43,920
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. Heading into November and Friday after Thanksgiving,

2818
02:32:44,040 --> 02:32:50,560
Speaker 2: all the anticipation with you know, the US and England,

2819
02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:53,840
Speaker 2: and of course it you know, deflated like a tijan

2820
02:32:53,879 --> 02:32:57,680
Speaker 2: a breastand plant. But one of these days, maybe or

2821
02:32:57,720 --> 02:33:00,520
Speaker 2: maybe not, the US team will make us proud. The

2822
02:33:00,560 --> 02:33:02,640
Speaker 2: World Cup's a big event and it's the coming to

2823
02:33:02,800 --> 02:33:07,680
Speaker 2: North America, so we'll have plenty of reportage on that

2824
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:11,240
Speaker 2: coming up. We wrap up the show and oh, by

2825
02:33:11,280 --> 02:33:16,080
Speaker 2: the way, we've got show he Tani we've had each year.

2826
02:33:16,120 --> 02:33:23,400
Speaker 2: Oh we have Yamamoto is perhaps a Japanese Babe ruth

2827
02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:30,360
Speaker 2: poised to come across the Pacific Ocean and playing the

2828
02:33:30,440 --> 02:33:32,920
Speaker 2: major leagues next year. I'll fill you in on the details.

2829
02:33:32,959 --> 02:33:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie fraddlework Company line from Las Vegas Fox Sports

2830
02:33:35,320 --> 02:33:37,960
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie

2831
02:33:37,959 --> 02:33:38,760
Speaker 2: Fradle Show on fire.

2832
02:33:39,640 --> 02:33:42,360
Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

2833
02:33:44,840 --> 02:33:47,760
Speaker 2: All right, we're wrapping it up on the Bernie Fradle Show.

2834
02:33:48,200 --> 02:33:53,560
Speaker 2: I want to thank my producers, Mark and Brandon while

2835
02:33:53,560 --> 02:33:56,000
Speaker 2: the professionalism, hard work, keeping a plane in the air,

2836
02:33:56,120 --> 02:34:03,440
Speaker 2: keeping the show on the air. Thank you very much. Clearly,

2837
02:34:03,720 --> 02:34:08,920
Speaker 2: the influence of Japanese Major League Baseball players has greatly

2838
02:34:09,120 --> 02:34:12,800
Speaker 2: enhanced the fandom of Major League Baseball and the success

2839
02:34:13,840 --> 02:34:16,279
Speaker 2: we were treated to Itchiro for the past couple of decades,

2840
02:34:16,320 --> 02:34:19,880
Speaker 2: and of course Shoheotani, and it goes much deeper than that.

2841
02:34:20,680 --> 02:34:25,400
Speaker 2: Yaomota was phenomenal in the World Series. MVP Rookio Sasaki

2842
02:34:26,480 --> 02:34:31,039
Speaker 2: now don't look now, but you're about to most likely

2843
02:34:32,720 --> 02:34:37,560
Speaker 2: hear about a gentleman soon if you haven't already. And oh,

2844
02:34:37,600 --> 02:34:46,000
Speaker 2: by the way, he entered Friday, something called the posting system.

2845
02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:51,360
Speaker 2: That's the process. It starts, essentially the Japanese free agency.

2846
02:34:52,080 --> 02:34:55,840
Speaker 2: This is a twenty five year old gentleman who's already

2847
02:34:55,840 --> 02:34:58,720
Speaker 2: had two hundred and forty six home runs in his

2848
02:34:58,920 --> 02:35:02,920
Speaker 2: Japanese you know, major League baseball playing career. It's called

2849
02:35:02,920 --> 02:35:06,400
Speaker 2: the Nippon Professional Baseball League. He's a left haned slugger.

2850
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:09,240
Speaker 2: He's a third baseman. In twenty twenty two, he won

2851
02:35:09,280 --> 02:35:12,400
Speaker 2: the Triple Crown and set the single season home run

2852
02:35:12,480 --> 02:35:16,520
Speaker 2: record of fifty six home runs. And he said, well,

2853
02:35:16,560 --> 02:35:20,600
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I thought Sadaharu oh was the champion

2854
02:35:20,680 --> 02:35:23,440
Speaker 2: home run king in Japan. Well he was. For his career,

2855
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:28,200
Speaker 2: he ate under the sixty eight home runs, but the

2856
02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:31,600
Speaker 2: most all ever hit in the season was fifty five.

2857
02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:35,160
Speaker 2: Did it back in nineteen sixty four? Tuffey Roads tied

2858
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:37,440
Speaker 2: it in two thousand and one, and all of a sudden,

2859
02:35:38,160 --> 02:35:43,840
Speaker 2: this gentleman, Munataka Murakami hit fifty five. Checked that fifty

2860
02:35:43,879 --> 02:35:46,680
Speaker 2: six home runs in twenty twenty two.

2861
02:35:46,920 --> 02:35:47,080
Speaker 3: Now.

2862
02:35:47,200 --> 02:35:50,000
Speaker 2: This last year he only played a limited number of

2863
02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:53,280
Speaker 2: games due to an oblique injury, still hit twenty two

2864
02:35:53,280 --> 02:35:56,920
Speaker 2: home runs in fifty five games. And for his career,

2865
02:35:56,959 --> 02:36:02,360
Speaker 2: he played for the Tokyo Yakult Swap and his career

2866
02:36:02,440 --> 02:36:06,199
Speaker 2: averages two seventies at two hundred and forty six home

2867
02:36:06,280 --> 02:36:08,600
Speaker 2: runs in his career seven hundred and twenty two RBIs

2868
02:36:08,680 --> 02:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Now he does strike out a lot. When you consider

2869
02:36:12,080 --> 02:36:15,760
Speaker 2: he's hit two hundred and forty six home runs in

2870
02:36:16,959 --> 02:36:22,240
Speaker 2: only eight hundred and ninety two games, that equates to,

2871
02:36:23,879 --> 02:36:27,440
Speaker 2: you know what, just under averaging fifty home runs a year.

2872
02:36:28,760 --> 02:36:30,760
Speaker 2: So just to understand how this works, there's a thing

2873
02:36:30,840 --> 02:36:36,480
Speaker 2: called the posting period, and the Tokyo Swallows posted Maurakami

2874
02:36:37,240 --> 02:36:40,160
Speaker 2: just Friday, which is the first day he could do it. Now,

2875
02:36:40,200 --> 02:36:42,960
Speaker 2: he has a forty five day window to negotiate and

2876
02:36:43,120 --> 02:36:46,360
Speaker 2: sign with any of the thirty Major League Baseball teams,

2877
02:36:47,240 --> 02:36:51,760
Speaker 2: which opened up Saturday, Yesterday, November twenty eighth, eight eight

2878
02:36:51,800 --> 02:36:55,000
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning Eastern time. It's going to last

2879
02:36:55,720 --> 02:37:00,920
Speaker 2: for forty five days, So Monday, Umber twenty second, at

2880
02:37:00,959 --> 02:37:05,480
Speaker 2: five o'clock Eastern time, the window to negotiate and sign

2881
02:37:06,360 --> 02:37:09,080
Speaker 2: for Murrakammi with any of the Major League Baseball teams.

2882
02:37:09,120 --> 02:37:11,760
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the teeth nashing if the Dodgers get

2883
02:37:11,840 --> 02:37:13,520
Speaker 2: this guy, Well, they already got Max Munsey. He's a

2884
02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:17,400
Speaker 2: left anything third baseman. You imagine he's twenty five years old. Again,

2885
02:37:17,440 --> 02:37:21,160
Speaker 2: Murray Commedy's twenty five years old. He's actually played eight

2886
02:37:21,240 --> 02:37:25,600
Speaker 2: seasons in the NPB, and he is not subject to

2887
02:37:25,640 --> 02:37:29,000
Speaker 2: any of Major League Baseball's international bonus pool restrictions. He

2888
02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:32,120
Speaker 2: can actually sign for a contract of any size. Now,

2889
02:37:32,160 --> 02:37:36,720
Speaker 2: there are fees if you if you sign Murrikami, any team,

2890
02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:40,640
Speaker 2: any Major League Baseball team that signs Murrikami, they'll pay

2891
02:37:40,640 --> 02:37:43,520
Speaker 2: a posting fee to the Tokyo Swallows, and it's basically

2892
02:37:43,959 --> 02:37:47,720
Speaker 2: calculated on the total guaranteed value of his contract. So

2893
02:37:47,840 --> 02:37:49,920
Speaker 2: they'll pay twenty percent of the first twenty five million

2894
02:37:49,959 --> 02:37:52,840
Speaker 2: that's five million bucks, seventeen and a half percent of

2895
02:37:52,879 --> 02:37:54,800
Speaker 2: the next twenty five and fifty percent of Mini mioun

2896
02:37:54,879 --> 02:37:58,600
Speaker 2: over fifty So that's not a chump change. Now, the

2897
02:37:58,800 --> 02:38:05,400
Speaker 2: rumors as to what Murakami is gonna draw or command

2898
02:38:05,520 --> 02:38:09,880
Speaker 2: in terms of a salary, and by the way, the

2899
02:38:10,600 --> 02:38:14,960
Speaker 2: previous record for a Japanese position player Masataki Yoshida signed

2900
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:18,240
Speaker 2: a five year, ninety million dollar deal. They are projecting

2901
02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:21,640
Speaker 2: that this gentleman, the Babe Ruth of Japan, Mudataka Murakami,

2902
02:38:22,280 --> 02:38:25,320
Speaker 2: will sign a deal for most likely in the area

2903
02:38:25,360 --> 02:38:28,440
Speaker 2: of six years about one hundred and forty million, could

2904
02:38:28,440 --> 02:38:31,480
Speaker 2: be as high as one hundred and fifty eight million.

2905
02:38:32,879 --> 02:38:35,200
Speaker 2: He has tremendous upside give it. His agress is only

2906
02:38:35,280 --> 02:38:40,160
Speaker 2: twenty five, and his power. Some analysts think he could

2907
02:38:40,200 --> 02:38:42,240
Speaker 2: even get a two hundred million dollar deal or even

2908
02:38:42,440 --> 02:38:47,080
Speaker 2: more like other young sluggers like Austin Riley. Got Now,

2909
02:38:47,160 --> 02:38:51,400
Speaker 2: who who are the teams that Murakami is expected to

2910
02:38:51,959 --> 02:38:53,160
Speaker 2: draw the most interest from?

2911
02:38:53,879 --> 02:38:54,119
Speaker 1: Wow?

2912
02:38:54,320 --> 02:38:59,280
Speaker 2: Come on, Yankees, Mets, Cubs usual suspect talking about the

2913
02:38:59,360 --> 02:39:02,480
Speaker 2: giants in the mid Oh? Yeah, did I forget to

2914
02:39:02,640 --> 02:39:07,680
Speaker 2: mention the Los Angeles Dodgers. Can you imagine the teeth

2915
02:39:07,680 --> 02:39:11,600
Speaker 2: gnashing that some poor people have if the Dodgers get

2916
02:39:11,720 --> 02:39:17,080
Speaker 2: Munataka Murakami. So this is a guy who's got tremendous

2917
02:39:17,080 --> 02:39:22,119
Speaker 2: slugging prowess. He can also play first base and there

2918
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:24,360
Speaker 2: are He's not the only Asian player coming over, but

2919
02:39:24,440 --> 02:39:26,959
Speaker 2: he's considered the crown jewel of a deep class of players,

2920
02:39:27,240 --> 02:39:30,080
Speaker 2: but imagine that a left handed hitting third baseman two

2921
02:39:30,160 --> 02:39:34,240
Speaker 2: hundred and forty six home runs. By the way, don't

2922
02:39:34,280 --> 02:39:37,119
Speaker 2: poop poo this because the Dodgers added choe Yo Tani

2923
02:39:37,200 --> 02:39:40,359
Speaker 2: two years ago, they won the World Series, added Yoshinobu

2924
02:39:40,600 --> 02:39:44,920
Speaker 2: Yamamoto this last year, and they're both worth every petty.

2925
02:39:44,959 --> 02:39:47,560
Speaker 2: They led the Los Angeles Dodgers to World Series victories,

2926
02:39:48,440 --> 02:39:50,600
Speaker 2: and the Dodgers guaranteed more than a billion to sign

2927
02:39:50,600 --> 02:39:53,400
Speaker 2: Otani as a free agent, and they plug Yamamoto for

2928
02:39:53,440 --> 02:39:57,480
Speaker 2: the Orcs Buffaloes through the same posting season that Murakami

2929
02:39:57,920 --> 02:39:59,560
Speaker 2: is coming through now, so keep an eye on it.

2930
02:39:59,560 --> 02:40:04,199
Speaker 2: We're gonna f all the story, all right, Munataka Murakamedi,

2931
02:40:04,240 --> 02:40:07,520
Speaker 2: the Japanese Babe Ruth. The bidding will begin. It'll be

2932
02:40:07,600 --> 02:40:10,320
Speaker 2: done by the December twenty second, and we'll see which

2933
02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:13,199
Speaker 2: team gets him. It's gonna do it for the Bernie

2934
02:40:13,240 --> 02:40:16,480
Speaker 2: Frattle Show. See in a couple of weeks. Don't go anywhere,

2935
02:40:16,600 --> 02:40:18,640
Speaker 2: by the way, keep it locked up next to Great

2936
02:40:18,680 --> 02:40:20,640
Speaker 2: Andy Furman. Fox Sports Radio.