WEBVTT - Why does everything need to grow? If something's good, keep it the same (A Year in the Life: Spring) 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.080 I am all in. 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:14.560 Oh, that's just you. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.640 I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.720 Hey everybody, Scott Patterson. We are going to get started 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.160 now with part two of Spring. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:27.920 Then we go back to therapy. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.159 And I thought this was very mean of Emily to 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:32.680 call Luke her roommate. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.000 But she is she wrong? Is she wrong? 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.080 He's not wrong? 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.240 Yeah, I don't think. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.160 She makes a really good point. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.640 Oh, you guys, they're totally like no, And I don't 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.120 see that at all. And this is coming from somebody 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.720 that's watching it for the first time. I'm in. I'm 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.800 watching these movies right now being like Luke and Laurla 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:55.520 they're not in a good spot. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.560 Oh, that continues to be addressed. But I don't think 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:00.360 they're really mates. 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:02.760 I kind of do. I don't think she's wrong. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.560 All right, fair, fair, fair. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.760 So you're telling me from two thousand and seven to 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:17.199 twenty and sixteen, in nine years, these two the idyllic 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.759 couple are not married. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.760 How How there's also no passion between them. There's no 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.680 chemistry or passion, there's nothing history. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.880 In winter they were like there was some chemistry. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.080 I thought there are no children, there's no there are 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:38.479 no rings, not. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.960 Like the last episode of the series where they kiss 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.199 after the graduates. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.200 Say, You're like, there's the fireworks. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.760 There it is and coming to the movie so far, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:48.840 I haven't How does. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.680 The fire that burns that bright for that long not 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:57.280 produce children? Happiness? 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.919 Okay, purpose some people. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.760 Some people don't want children. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.760 I know that, but this is Gilmore girls. This is 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.079 like the iconic children. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.760 I actually don't find it problematic that they don't actually try. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.799 The fans are so pissed off. It's because of this. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.280 It's because somebody is trying to be too clever and 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.320 too cute and messing around with characters that shouldn't be 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.520 messed around with. There are certain things that are iconic 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.880 that are created that somebody just did too much to 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.560 or not given them enough. And this we're staring at 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:35.760 her right in the face. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.880 I don't disagree with you that they have kind of 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:43.520 painted Lorelai and Luke in a sort of way. But 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.680 it's not because they don't have children, and it's also 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.200 not because they haven't gotten married both of those things. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:54.520 Amy, I'm not attacking people that have wonderful relationships, full 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:55.800 loving relationships. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.600 You are upset that Luke and Lorelai are not married. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:05.000 I'm not upset by I'm did Luke dirty? Yes, I 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.200 really do. I think that they did not make Luke 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.760 what he should have been. But I don't care that 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.400 they're not married. I'm I think it's kind of interesting 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.320 that they're not married, that they're together. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.040 So, in terms of storytelling, explain the last nine years, 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.560 what happened to their relationship. It's not addressed at all 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.880 in this and now Laurel is addressing it, like, like, 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:26.400 what's the story behind it? 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:27.160 Fair? 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.360 I will say that, like I don't care that they're 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.400 not married or that they don't have I actually don't. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.400 I like that they didn't have another kid. I like 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.160 that they each have their own kid, and Luke feels 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:37.240 that Rory is his own. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:37.920 I love that. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.720 What I don't love is that, like I wish that 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.360 they were not married, they have another kid, but they're 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.960 living their life together and I just don't feel that 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.480 life between them. Does that make sense? Like there's nothing 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:56.200 that's happened for them since the series ended. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.280 Because Emily's right, Sorry, nobody's made a commitment, nobody's been 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:01.400 an adult, there's no. 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.280 Adduce I disagree in Winter when when Luke says, I 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:06.120 did pretty good. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:07.240 I have a lot of fun. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:08.960 I got terrible. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:10.800 That was amazing. 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:15.440 You're citing that as an example of a great scene. Yes, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.039 he did pretty good. He's giving up on his passion, 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.080 he's giving up on his. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:20.440 What is giving up on? 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.920 He's not giving up on anything he wants this life. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.600 Why are you so disappointed that Luke's just satisfied. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.800 Look, I do think they did the character dirty. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.080 I do. I thought the in vitro stuff was ridiculous. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.440 I think the fact that he goes in the car 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.120 and goes looking. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.359 At the real estate is crazy. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.200 But I don't think Luke should be disappointed himself that 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:42.880 he's happy to be a small town guy. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.600 Here's the thing I'll say. I think that scene where 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.400 he was like, I think I did pretty good. I 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.920 love that scene. But it was also prefaced by yeah, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.719 we didn't have kids, Yeah I didn't do this, Yeah 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.000 I didn't do that. But I think I did pretty good. Right, 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.600 So it shows him settling quite frankly, it does. But 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.400 I did love them where he's so happy with what 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.120 he's got and where he's at. I do enjoy that, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:11.440 but I do think that where we are now, however, 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.279 many years later, and in this spring episode where you 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.680 feel that there's a big disconnect between Luke and Laurli 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:23.800 and that they're both kind of won't want wah mm hmm. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.920 And I think that's what you're picking up, Scott, that 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.440 they that there there should have been so much more 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.680 with them, and right now there's nothing there. I mean 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.840 nothing is a strong word, but there's no spice, there's 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:40.159 no chemistry, there's no look future ambitions, there's no goals 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.800 as a couple, like they're just taking, like you know, 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:45.560 just taking. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.680 When do you have to get to stop having goals 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.800 and just sit on a rocking chair? 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.359 Not on a TV show if you want people to 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.320 watch it in life, it's okay on TV. You need 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.240 a story to move it forward. These people haven't grown 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.160 and fact, they've slid back, which is why she's exiting. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.400 And this is the story you really want to tell 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:10.360 about these two people and do this to a fan. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.240 I agree that the movies are lackluster. I'm not defending 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:15.720 that they aren't. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.360 Kind of Okay, we're taught, we're look, we're not doing 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.960 macro stuff anymore. We're right here we're in the weeds. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:27.800 We're micro analyzing this. We're now we're pointing to specific issues, Okay, 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:34.440 specific issues, characterizations, writing, why why did this happen? I'm 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.760 now a fan of this show. I'm a little better 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:41.440 educated now because I've seen the app I've seen it once. Okay, 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.960 so now I'm like hooked and I'm just like the fans. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:49.760 Now I want to see it again. Okay, and this 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.279 episode is kicking my ass. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.040 I think a lot of people agree with you. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.840 But I also have more skin in the game because 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:09.159 I helped make this I helped create this character. Okay. 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.480 So for those of you out there listening to this, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:18.560 who are who find this hard to listen to imagine 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.680 put yourself in my shoes all the time and effort 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.120 that it took me to get to a position to 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.119 get an offer, to be in a show this good, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:32.080 and to play a character that's special. To watch what's 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:33.880 happening to him now is hard. 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:35.560 It's hard. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.480 It's like watching you know, you know you've built a 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.840 taj mahal. Now they're making condos out of it that 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.960 you would be horrified, It would kill you to watch it. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.160 That is what I am experiencing right now. So these 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:49.400 are the killer that I'm. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.240 Asking completely corrected in. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.600 The last nine years. What happened in the last nine years. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.800 Why are these people at this place? Why is their 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.800 relationship sort of settled and kind of may so. 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.200 I have a question for you kids on this note. 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:08.600 Did you think it's a fairly important relationship in the show? Yeah? 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.000 It is. Why aren't they dealing? 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.440 So with this being said, did they tell you before 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.800 the movie started where they are at, like as as 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.280 an actor, where they like Luke and Laura are here. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:19.320 This is how we're acting. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.480 Not really, it's not really, not really, Scott. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.760 We do understand because Danielle and I create shows. Also 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.400 imagine if we like we create shows and we give 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.839 our guidance right to people that don't listen to us, 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:38.040 and then the shows hit the bucket, right, and we're like, hey, 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.840 you probably should have listened to us. So I understand 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.480 that you know this character just like we know our shows, right, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.880 And you go to whoever you go to and say, 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.439 you know, Luke's gonna know about what IVF is, and 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:51.960 Luke's not going to jump in the car with Emily 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.360 and go look at a bunch of real estate for 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.440 a diner expansion he doesn't want, and they don't listen 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.960 to you. We so get how frustrating that we so 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.600 get it. Now as a fan, do I think these 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:10.440 movies are terribly flawed? But I also think I'm so 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.560 happy to have them, and I also think there is 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.160 some good in them, right, And I. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.200 Don't think that. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.840 Look you get you're the character is now fifty, Lorealize 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:22.640 like forty. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.400 I'm just gett you know, close, forty two whatever she is, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.280 I'm fifty. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.680 I don't watch it Louralize forty seven, forty eight. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.559 Yeah, because thirty thirty two. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.679 She's thirty two year two old. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.400 Okay, sorry, okay, you're right. Sorry, So forty, Luke's about 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:41.520 what fifty something? 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:42.280 She's forty. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.840 I'm fifty, and let me tell you, I'm starting to 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.840 have less and less goals of expansion and more and 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.520 more wanting to sit on my rock and porch, go 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.800 to a movie, stick my feet in the hot tub. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.959 So I understand that for me, just for me, I'm 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.559 only saying myself, I don't think Luke and Lorlai have failed. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.400 Yes, are they a little bit like seven year itchy? Maybe? 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:12.440 Maybe but like they're best friends, their companions. They are romantic. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.160 We know they sleep together all the things. So I'm 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.760 not like this is a couple in distress, you know 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:18.199 what I mean. 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.680 I think I think they just don't want to give 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.959 these main characters a happy ending. They want to you know, 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:30.520 Lane and Zach got a happy ending. Children, uh, Suki 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.800 and Jackson happy ending, children, marriage, the whole thing. They 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.680 did a big wedding for everybody, you know, at least 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.320 they did weddings for them. I guess we should be 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:44.920 happy that's somebody, but right, I mean. 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.640 But you always think they're happy. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.040 Rory's a mess, Laurel is a mess, Emily's a mess, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:51.840 Luke's a mess. Everybody's a mess. 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.600 Look's not a mess. Luke's just ya. He's not a mess. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.280 He is not He's he's just a little. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.760 Around without a pair, if you know what I mean. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:06.400 Well, yes, he's a little that. But Luke's not unhappy. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:11.239 This is the difference. Lorla yes, is dealing with some unhappiness. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.040 I'm sure some because of Rory, some because her relationship 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:18.000 is sort of blase, her challenges with her mother, Luke. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.960 If you walked up to Luke in these movies and said, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.360 are you happy, he'd be like, I'm really happy. He's 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:30.560 not unhappy, Yes he is, Oh, I disagree. Is really happy. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.040 He's got he's got a great kid who's at mit. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.400 He's got another kid, Rory. He's got the woman of 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.200 his dreams. He's got the diner. His sister's in a cult, 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.200 but that's okay. He's got money. Luke is happy because 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.719 Luke is a simple guy who likes he doesn't want 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:46.679 to leave Stars Hollow. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.720 He's very happy there. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.840 Like no one's going like, why isn't Gypsy franchised her? 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:57.160 You know, shop like because these people are happy and 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.760 Stars Hollow And to me, that's the message of this show. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.680 One core message is we don't have to go to 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.600 the big slit. It's like, hey, we're here in this 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.960 little town and we love our fairs and we love 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.800 our little movie theater that shows old movies and made 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:14.760 up movies by Kirk, and I bring my hot dogs 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.559 in there, like I find happiness. 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.840 That I agree with you. And I think that's a 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.920 very very, very very good point that you have just made. 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:31.400 That the main character Stars Hollow forces this. This is 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.080 the reality of Star so that's all well and good. 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:38.480 I'm just saying from an aspirational point of view what 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.320 I wanted to see, and this how I wanted to 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.920 see this relationship with Laura Lai. Yeah, and my character 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.720 and her character grow over those I get that nine 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:55.600 years because I think that provides far more interesting material 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:04.320 it provides thematically. On this the tone of the show, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.400 I think that it. I just think that stagnation and 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:16.640 negativity and how Daniel Daniel described it perfectly should never 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.840 be a part of this show. I agree with that 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.800 because that's not the show. That's not the spirit of it. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.600 So in your mouth, but I think you see Luke 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.720 as the guy that's going to be the best husband, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:33.440 the best partner, the best you know, businessman in starsall 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.640 you do see Luke as aspirational. I don't think he 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.920 needs to franchise to be aspirational. I agree with you 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.440 in the sense that like Loreli is not going to 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.920 be bored with Luke, Loreli is not going to be 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.319 questioning her relationship with Luke because. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.960 Luke is too good for that. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.880 And that is where I think you actually are frustrated 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.640 that you're seeing And again, I don't want to put 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.840 words in your mouth. But you're seeing Emily kind of 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.800 emasculate Luke, which she always has and always will. Fine, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:03.439 but I think that Laura would be. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.040 He doesn't have to allow it to happen. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:07.679 I think he's just polite about it. I don't even 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.560 know if he question polite. 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.080 How is that polite? He's just dumb. Now he doesn't 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.000 even know how how to defend himself. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:18.839 He's dumb and something disappointed that Laurai that Luke isn't 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:23.160 LOURAI will be like, I have the best relationship in town. No, 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:27.080 we're not roommates, we are soulmates. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.200 Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not about 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:29.960 the ring. 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.200 Or the children, it's about that their relationship is a little. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:36.280 And that doesn't track. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.640 No, it doesn't. And now how do you think it 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.600 makes a fan bield fan base feel that now she's 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.840 getting in therapy at the end of this episode, you 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.000 know she's getting She's going to have a single one 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.920 on one session and she's going to talk about how 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:53.840 she's not happy in her relationship with Luke. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.640 I think it's disappointing. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.360 What can I still do for lauralized character? Now they're 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:00.560 deconstruct hook. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.120 I don't know about that, because. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.640 Let's dismantle this love. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.360 Some people find it relatable. So I don't think it's 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.640 where I would see Luke and Laurlai. But many many 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.400 fifty year old women who've been with their person for 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.880 ten years or more or a little less, feel the 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.320 same way. I don't think ultimately, and again we're jumping ahead. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.600 I don't think ultimately Laurai was questioning her relationship. She 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.720 was questioning who she is and herself, and so many 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.840 fifty year old women are going through that. And so 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.280 I'm sure and I don't know how old Amy is, 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:35.920 but she's probably a little bit older than me, so 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.800 maybe when she wrote this, she was right in that 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:42.200 same place. So it does track like I am so 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.840 kind of in that space too. 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.880 So I don't think it's wrecking Laura Lai. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:52.160 I think she's just exploring and looktly, there are things 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:56.280 that I think are dumb I do, and these. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.080 Movies are a little bit could have been better, right, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.440 But I think that Hemp was there. I think that 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:03.920 is it is women. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.280 In their fifties, late forties, fifties are doing so much 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.800 of what Loralai is doing, trying to work out. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:17.040 Their their kids, the whole thing. I guess this is 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:21.360 really just now it's about exploring. 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:23.240 Her journey. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.320 I would say, apart. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:30.640 From any other character, this is really about Lorelei's journey 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.400 through life. Here we are, she's forty eight. This is 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.640 going to be her experience. These four episodes are going 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.280 to take us through her experience. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.080 It's my argument for the whole series too. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.720 I think at its core, ultimate right, yes, it was 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.960 Gilmore Girls, and Rory and Emily play huge part in that, 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.720 but I have always felt the show and these films 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.200 are always at their center about LORAAI. 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.560 You're proven correct because the one thing that I do 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:07.439 remember feeling really strange about, right was and I filmed 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.639 it and I remember it is that you know, the 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:16.080 the elopement. Okay, I thought that was very odd because 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.200 I was, well, we'll get to it, but that's I 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.280 won't go into detail. But the way that was shot 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:26.119 and what I was told to do after the wedding, 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.280 coming down the stairs and getting out of the shot, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.919 and I was like, oh, we'll talk about that. I 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.320 thought I was in a different show. I think that's. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.080 Correct because I think ultimately, look and I've always felt 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.080 this way because I'm fifty now, so I'm very close 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:47.200 in age to the age they are. When I watched 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.360 it the first time, I was very close to age 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:55.800 to lowerly then. So I have always just felt like 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.240 her and so yes with flaws, and I've always the 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.080 show was People always like it's about the relationship between 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:04.840 the two of them, and I've just know, I've always 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:06.560 felt this show was really Laura Laie. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.760 Yep, that's why she had the number one by her name. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:14.800 Alexis number two, correct, exactly, It's not anybody else's show. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.239 At that end of this episode, which I know we've 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:26.679 still got a few more scenes to talk about, but 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.119 the end of the episode, it zooms in on Lauren 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.840 Laura Lai and you see in her face like. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.480 Just questioning everything. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.160 We have never acknowledged that she has empty nests in them. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.560 Yes it's been eight years, but still in a sense 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:47.200 because of the time warp, she's dealing with empty nests syndrome. 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.280 She's dealing with her relationship stuff, she's lost her father. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.840 So many people say you are one person before and 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.560 you can attest to this guy because I know this 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.439 is like the case for you. You are one person 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:02.399 before your parents leave you, and you are a totally 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.520 different person after, and you will never be that same 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.040 person again. So this is now that character is exploring 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:07.760 all these things. 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.400 I don't, well, what happens is you've become three times 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:11.040 as strong. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:13.840 Wow, let us pray for. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:15.320 That, because you know. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:18.160 That's what happens. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:26.679 I can like it makes me emotional because I relate 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.000 to her so much, and I agree in the little things. 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.280 I totally agree with you, Like they're making Luke kind 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.520 of dopey, right, but at the core I see her 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:41.240 in the therapy and it's like, Okay, that's me and 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.560 probably a lot of people listening. So anyway, I digress. 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.040 Let's go back to where we were at. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.399 I don't know if you're going to establish characters and 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:49.959 you could write him this way, then own it and 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:51.440 continue to write him that way. 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.679 Yeah, it's you make a good point there, because it's 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.160 almost like so deep and gritty and what they're dealing with. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.919 But then we have all these kind of like silly 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.200 antics like grabbing Luke and taking them to all these 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:03.240 like diners. 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.359 It's kind of yeah, right. 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.320 It's it's the biggest criticism of the Sex in the 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.399 City reboot is that it kind of lost some of 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.840 its humor and levity, but it's almost doing what they 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:16.120 really want to go dig. 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.320 Deep into these characters. But anyway, that's a different show. 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.639 So I think the only want to dig deep on 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:21.399 here is Laurai. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:24.000 That's probably correct. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.280 Probably I don't want to dig deep on anybody. 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.760 Else's why they make Rory such a carney, Like Rory 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.040 is a clown in these movies, like because we're not 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.080 digging deep into her, We're not really analyzing why is 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.840 she still with Logan and cheating on everybody? Why is 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.960 she floundering so much in her career? Why is she 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:46.159 dating this Pete Paul, you know hat guy that no 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.920 one can remember her name. Like, it's all just flowney, 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.520 whereas with Loralai there is some sort of gritty realism. 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.080 But anyway, we go back to New York and we 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.560 go to Doyle's apartment and I'm sorry, Paris is walk 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:04.560 up fifth five story, I mean, Pears is loaded, and 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:05.440 it's kind of dumb. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:05.680