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Speaker 1: minutes or less. On the Small Pod, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: diving into whatsever on my mind. The pod channel has

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Speaker 1: been too quiet so far this season, and I haven't

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Speaker 1: really been speaking long form on many topics. It's about

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Speaker 1: time to change that. So what I'm gonna be doing

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Speaker 1: every weekday morning as best I can, just giving you

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Speaker 1: my thoughts on individual topics around the Marlins organization at

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Speaker 1: all levels, and this when we go to the upper

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Speaker 1: levels of the miners as today is a some whatt

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Speaker 1: of a deadline, one of those invisible deadlines that the

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Speaker 1: team does not talk about. As of April eleventh, after

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Speaker 1: this is the sixteenth day of the Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: regular season, and it is now too late for any

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Speaker 1: player called up to accrue a full year of major

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Speaker 1: league service time. It extends the team's club control over

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Speaker 1: players who have not yet debuted here in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: This is most relevant to Augustine Ramirez, the Marlins catching

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Speaker 1: DH prospects number three on our fof Top thirty list.

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Speaker 1: I have an article about this on the Fish on

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Speaker 1: First Side right now, giving you more of my extended

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Speaker 1: thoughts on what's going on here with Ramirez. If he

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Speaker 1: gets called up at any point now moving forward, he

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Speaker 1: is under club control through at least the twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: one season, which goes just past his thirtieth birthday. The

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Speaker 1: Marlins have control over him now through his entire twenties,

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Speaker 1: even if he gets called up and stays up permanently

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Speaker 1: from now through the rest of that period, and that

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Speaker 1: certainly be a best case scenario. Right This is one

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Speaker 1: of those deadlines that I think gets a little bit

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Speaker 1: too much publicity really only applies to guys that have

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Speaker 1: when you have a player that actually sticks in the

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Speaker 1: So the subject is when is he actually gonna arrive

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Speaker 1: in Miami. He was acquired, of course, in the Jazz

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Speaker 1: Chisholm junior trade from the New York Yankees. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a deal that has the potential to be a

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Speaker 1: more good than bad with New York and Ramirez has

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Speaker 1: that was pretty far off prospect radars at this time

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Speaker 1: of year ago. Is now one of you could argue

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Speaker 1: the best position player prospect in this organization according to

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Speaker 1: certain lists, depending on what you value. He is a

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Speaker 1: very well rounded hitter. So far this Triple A season,

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Speaker 1: he is hitting two seventy nine with a one twenty

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Speaker 1: positional fit here is what's really important and why he's

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Speaker 1: not up at this particular moment. Fan Grafts is especially

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Speaker 1: the ones that have him number forty overall on their

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Speaker 1: his defense behind the plate and me, I've been pretty

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Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. As recently as his most

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Speaker 1: And that has been a trends from basically every game

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Speaker 1: how frequently he fumbles the transfer from his glove to

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Speaker 1: A this season, he's only playing catcher, and that has

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Speaker 1: Right now, at the Triple A level, it's him and

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Speaker 1: He's at Double A. Rob Brantley is kind of a

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Speaker 1: Brian Navarredo. That leaves him as the second string catcher

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Speaker 1: He has DAHD a couple of days, and aside from that,

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Speaker 1: He's a slightly better defender behind the plate. All things considered,

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Speaker 1: I think Ramirez would be up almost immediately, even with

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Speaker 1: This extra year of club control that goes into effect.

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