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Speaker 4: On this Monday, after the news broke, we turned down

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Speaker 4: to Seth Harris, former labor policy advisor to President Biden

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Speaker 4: and senior fellow at the Burns Center. Seth, it's great

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Speaker 4: to have you with us here at the table. Thank

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Speaker 4: you for joining. You probably know Joe Biden better than

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Speaker 4: anyone else. We're going to talk to you on the

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Speaker 4: program today. And so I don't want to get too

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Speaker 4: personal here, but I do. And what motivated him was

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Speaker 4: the pressure too great for him to wait to speak

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Speaker 4: to the American people, to do this in his own time,

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Speaker 4: at his own pace from the Oval Office.

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Speaker 5: All we still have is a piece of letterhead.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 6: The defining character trait of Joe Biden, at least in

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Speaker 6: his public life, has been resilience. He has suffered unfathomable

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Speaker 6: personal losses. He has suffered professional setbacks that would have

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Speaker 6: caused a lot of other people to go and lie

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Speaker 6: in the fetal position on their beds. But he has

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Speaker 6: always persevered. He has always continued, and he's always gone

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Speaker 6: to work for the people he grew up with in Claymont,

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Speaker 6: families that he cares about so much, that he identifies with,

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Speaker 6: and his family was that kind of a family. But

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Speaker 6: there's an even more important trait about Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 6: that is patriotism. He sees Donald Trump, I think correctly,

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Speaker 6: and the Republican Party as an existential threat to democracy

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Speaker 6: in the United States. And when he sat down with

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Speaker 6: his top aides Steve Vershetty and Mike Donald, and they

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Speaker 6: showed him the data that showed that it was going

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Speaker 6: to be very difficult for him to stop Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: He chose country over party, country for self, which, as

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Speaker 6: you all know from doing this television show here in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 6: when you talk to a lot of politicians, that's not

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Speaker 6: what politicians usually do. He chose to do the right

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Speaker 6: this country at great cost to himself. And I don't

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Speaker 6: think it was that the pressure. I don't think it

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Speaker 6: any money. It was that he cares about winning for

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Speaker 6: working people, he cares about winning for democracy. It was

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Speaker 6: for me personally, a very deeply sad day. But I've

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Speaker 6: never been prouder of the man, and it's been my

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Speaker 6: privileged to work with him in two administrations. He's a

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Speaker 6: remarkable human being and it's been my honor to be

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Speaker 7: Well, it's a great reminder to us, Aul Seth of

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Speaker 7: just what Joe Biden has been as a public servant.

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Speaker 7: We're talking half a century through surviving the loss of

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Speaker 7: his wife, his daughter, eventually his son bow continuing to

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Speaker 7: serve through it all.

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Speaker 8: But of course, yesterday not.

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Speaker 7: Just a decision to no longer continue that service, at

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Speaker 8: And be the Democratic nominee.

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Speaker 7: How do you view that part of this decision making

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Speaker 7: process for Joe Biden, Because we'd had a lot of

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Speaker 7: So should we rule that the polling suggested that Kamala

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Speaker 6: I think it's both. He saw polling that showed that

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Speaker 6: also he is deeply loyal to her. He picked her

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Speaker 6: He hasn't agen that he wants to see finished. He

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Speaker 4: It's been noted that Joe Biden is a hugger, that

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Speaker 5: How would you describe it.

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Speaker 6: You know, I haven't spoken to him during this period,

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Speaker 6: an amazingly tough man. I mean, he's made it to

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Speaker 6: He lifted us out of a pandemic. He drove the

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Speaker 6: He assembled a coalition to fight tyrants and to defend

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Speaker 6: He's been remarkably accomplished, even though he has experienced this

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Speaker 6: really an admirable record, and that's what he wanted to continue.

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Speaker 6: And he was convinced that he could.

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Speaker 7: Well, you talk about an admirable record on the economy,

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Speaker 7: Biden economy. Can Harris message that differently than Biden, make

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Speaker 6: I think that there's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 6: comparing the Biden economy now the Harris economy to the

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Speaker 6: Trump economy. President Trump is the first president since Herbert

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the issue we associate you most closely with,

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Speaker 4: and that's organized labor. Joe Biden professed to be the

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Speaker 5: We know that he's struggled with.

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Speaker 4: Little bit of a different relationship with the teamsters. We

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Speaker 4: just saw Sean O'Brien speaking in Milwaukee. As a matter

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Speaker 4: of fact, Kamala Harris walked a picket line I think

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Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen, what is her relationship with organized labor?

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Speaker 4: Is this going to be the same campaign when it

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Speaker 6: Let me say President Biden is the most pro union

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Speaker 6: any presidential candidate before. Vice President Harris doesn't have fifty

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Speaker 6: President Biden does. She's newer to national politics, but during

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Speaker 6: I work together most closely. She has spoken at conventions.

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Speaker 6: She most recently spoke at the convention of Unite here,

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Speaker 6: and my prediction is that every union that has endorsed

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Speaker 6: ultimately endorse Vice President Harris. And the reason is they

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Speaker 7: And yet when you listen to the Republicans, especially the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all they have to do is tell the truth

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Speaker 6: about JD. Vance's record and Donald Trump's record. Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: Vance has opposed every piece of legislation that would empower

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Speaker 6: not want working class populism. They don't want to put

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Speaker 4: The narrative right now is that Donald Trump is more

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden. The narrative a minute ago, five minutes ago,

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Speaker 4: maybe is Joe Biden's the only person who can beat

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump. Does this actually change the calculus for Donald Trump?

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Speaker 4: Can she beat him more easily than Joe Biden?

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Speaker 5: In your view?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it does change the calculus. They have

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Speaker 6: and age was their best.

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Speaker 5: Arguments on the age issue.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and she is an extraordinarily effective campaigner. Let me say,

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Speaker 6: I'm happening to be labor for me, So he's going

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Speaker 7: The World was Rocked yesterday with the announcement of Joe

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got an historic candidacy, at least on the

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Speaker 5: Against a woman in Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 4: But this is a very different case and a very

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Speaker 7: Well, and I actually raised the parallel to twenty sixteen

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Speaker 9: Absolutely America was ready for a female president the last time.

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Speaker 4: This is something we're going to be talking about a

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Speaker 4: It's interesting as the talking points come together on both sides.

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Speaker 7: Of the aisle, certainly, but certainly the endorsements and the

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Speaker 7: As we have been discussing more than fifty million dollars

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Speaker 7: Emily's List, which of course is a group that focuses

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Speaker 7: So let's turn now to Jessica Mackler. She is president

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Speaker 10: Well, this is an incredible time and a real momentous

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Speaker 11: For us, this was an easy call.

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Speaker 10: It wasn't just a day one endorsement, it was an

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Speaker 10: There is no one who is more stronger on the

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Speaker 11: That is what is going to decide this election.

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Speaker 10: So what we are seeing is truly that enthusiasm and

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Speaker 10: Well, look, I think one of the things we have

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Speaker 11: So I'm going to take this on looking forward.

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Speaker 10: And what I know based on that research, based on

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Speaker 11: That's what's going to happen in November.

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Speaker 11: And we're going to do that again with.

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Speaker 5: Here a Harris campaign.

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Speaker 4: You know that it's been sport here in Washington to

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Speaker 10: Well, look, as you've just outlined, there are going to

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Speaker 10: For the past three years, she has been on a

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Speaker 11: And we know that when we do that, voters will

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Speaker 8: How do you view that.

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Speaker 10: just an incredible show of support for Vice President Harris.

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Speaker 10: We have seen that from, as I've said, every region

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Speaker 10: We've seen it from organizations that are a whole wide

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Speaker 10: range of issues and they all know what I know,

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Speaker 10: which is that there is no one more prepared to

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Speaker 10: win this election against Donald Trump. There was no one

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Speaker 10: who is more prepared to lead this country on day

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Speaker 10: one than Kamala Harris. So I fully expect that Kamala

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Speaker 10: Harris is going to be our democratic nominee, and she

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Speaker 7: Well, Jessica, of course, if she is the top of

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Speaker 7: the ticket, needs to be on that ticket with her.

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Speaker 7: I've heard suggestions in the last twenty four hours that

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Speaker 7: to need to be a white man on it with

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Speaker 7: her to balance things out.

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Speaker 8: What do you think of that notion?

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Speaker 7: Should she be considering a woman like Governor Gretchen Whitmer

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Speaker 7: to be her vice president if she wins the nomination.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm not going to put my own parameters out

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Speaker 10: there for the vice president. I trust her to make

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Speaker 10: the decision that's right for her to choose a partner.

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Speaker 11: Who is going to serve.

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Speaker 10: Admirably with her and is going to be the right

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Speaker 10: partner for her in this ticket. But I will say

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Speaker 10: ticket is going to provide a really clear contrast with

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump and JD. Vance, who embraced the most extreme

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Speaker 10: elements of the Republican Party and the MAGA movement.

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Speaker 11: And this is going to be a clear choice between

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Speaker 11: a ticket that is going.

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Speaker 10: To stand up and defend our rights and our freedoms,

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Speaker 10: that is going to be for a better economic future

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Speaker 10: for our country, and the choice between Donald Trump and

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Speaker 10: jd Vance, who, as I said, embrace the most dangerous

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Speaker 10: elements of Project twenty twenty five and are going to

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Speaker 10: take this country down a really dark path. That's the

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Speaker 10: choice voters you are going to have in front of them,

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Speaker 10: regardless of who is on this ticket with us.

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Speaker 11: That is going to be the choice in November.

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Speaker 4: Jessica, I want to get back to something that we

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Speaker 4: were talking about a bit earlier, and that's just the

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Speaker 4: change in stakes for Donald Trump to be debating a woman,

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Speaker 4: and in this case, a woman of color and lessons

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Speaker 4: learned from the twenty sixteen race in which Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: shared a stage with Hillary Clinton. What do you expect

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Speaker 4: to see if Donald Trump actually makes good on this

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Speaker 4: debate appointment that he had with Joe Biden. I realized

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Speaker 4: that he might want a different venue at this point.

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Speaker 4: But if something takes place in a debate between these

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Speaker 4: two candidates, how does this change the game for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 10: Well, I am sure that Donald Trump and his team

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Speaker 10: have seen what I've seen, and that is a life

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Speaker 10: time at a record of achievement from Kamala Harris and

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Speaker 10: just an incredible litigator.

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Speaker 11: Her background as a prosecutor.

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Speaker 10: We saw it in the US Senate on display and

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Speaker 10: the Judiciary Committee. No one wants to be in her

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Speaker 10: line of sight when it comes to having to defend

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Speaker 10: a record that the American people are clear that they

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Speaker 10: don't want, and.

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Speaker 11: So I expect that they have to be pretty scared

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Speaker 11: of that moment.

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Speaker 10: She's an incredibly effective messenger on issues including reproductive freedom,

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Speaker 10: but certainly not limited to that, and it is going

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Speaker 10: to be a daunting task for them. She's going to

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Speaker 10: litigate this case incredibly effectively against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: Well, Jessica, you've mentioned reproductive freedom a few times during

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Speaker 7: this conversation. It was a conversation that notably wasn't really

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Speaker 7: being had in Milwaukee, where Joe and I were last week,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of the discussions we were having with

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Speaker 7: people gathered there and strategists was this notion that the

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Speaker 7: Republican Party and especially Donald Trump and selecting Jade Vance

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Speaker 7: as his vice presidential nominee, seems to have decided not

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Speaker 7: to go for suburban women in this election cycle to

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Speaker 7: focus on rural areas, working classmen in particular. Do you

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Speaker 7: think Havin Harris at the top of the ticket may

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Speaker 7: actually change that strategy and you have to counter what

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Speaker 7: could be a more concerted effort with the Republicans and

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Speaker 7: the Trump campaign to go after that same base of voters.

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Speaker 10: Well, I will say, I mean watching the RNC last week,

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Speaker 10: I know that Republicans like Donald Trump, Jadevance, they can

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Speaker 10: read polls and they don't want to talk about this issue.

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Speaker 10: But unfortunately for them, this is not a branding problem

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Speaker 10: for them, it's an agenda problem.

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Speaker 11: And it doesn't matter where you are in this country.

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Speaker 10: We have seen since the DABS decision in Red States,

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Speaker 10: Purple states, all over this country, people believe overwhelmingly that

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Speaker 10: these are decisions that belong with individuals, that they should

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Speaker 10: be able to make them themselves their private medical choices,

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Speaker 10: and that these are decisions that the government, bureaucracy courts

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Speaker 10: should not be involved in. They are very clear on

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Speaker 10: thatvoters are very clear on that. And so the problem

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Speaker 10: for Donald Trump and JD Vance and Republicans like them

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Speaker 10: up and down the ticket is that you can run,

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Speaker 10: but you cannot hide from this.

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Speaker 11: We know their records.

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Speaker 10: We're going to put that in front of voters and

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Speaker 10: wherever you are again around the country, they're on the

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Speaker 10: wrong side of this issue.

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Speaker 5: Jessica, it's great to have you.

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Speaker 4: Jessica Mackler, the president of Emily's List, America's largest pack

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Speaker 4: devoted to electing Democratic women and in this case, devoting

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Speaker 4: twenty million dollars to the Kamala Harris for President campaign.

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Speaker 5: It's great to have you here.

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Speaker 4: I'm Joe Matthew and Washington alongside Kaylee Lines where we

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Speaker 4: have two major endorsements dropping in our lapse here from

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Speaker 4: the Senate. Kamala Harris already had a majority of Senate

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Speaker 4: Senate Democrats, and she adds two more.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the list is getting longer, including the Senator from Maryland,

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Speaker 7: Chris van Holland, out with an endorsement, and also, interestingly,

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Speaker 7: Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, who had been one of

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Speaker 7: the most vocal advocates for Joe Biden the President, staying

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Speaker 7: in the now, out with a post on x that

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Speaker 7: he is proud to support and be all in for

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Speaker 7: the next president, he says. Kamala Harris, attached to a

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Speaker 7: picture that says, let's win this Harris for President.

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Speaker 7: Hold Sir Franklins, founder and president of fil Inc. Who

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Speaker 7: is here with us in our Washington, d C. Studio. Frank,

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Speaker 7: great to see you. You were on with us months

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Speaker 7: ago talking about how Joe Biden was not going to

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Speaker 7: be able to win this election because he is too old.

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Speaker 7: The age issue potentially taken away if Harris is at

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Speaker 7: the top of the ticket. She's only fifty nine. Can

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Speaker 7: she beat Donald Trump? As the data suggests right now

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Speaker 7: that she can.

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Speaker 12: Yes, she can. I've already done a not ed for

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Speaker 12: the Financial Times, for the Times of London. This campaign

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Speaker 12: for me, anyway, has begun twenty four eighteen hours ago.

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Speaker 12: The age issue is now a Trump issue. It's not

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Speaker 12: that it's been taken away. Now. Trump has to defend

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Speaker 12: some of the things that he spoke of because he

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Speaker 12: would be the oldest person ever elected if he were

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Speaker 12: to serve four years. She changes the entire equation. She

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Speaker 12: brings young women to the table who had no interest

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Speaker 12: in voting for Joe Biden and were not attracted to

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Speaker 12: Donald Trump. She brings African Americans who are completely disinterested

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Speaker 12: in this campaign. And these matter in states across the country.

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Speaker 12: I wrote just seventy two hours ago that unless things

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Speaker 12: dramatically changed, it was going to be Trump. That you

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Speaker 12: can now pretty well declare him, because not only was

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Speaker 12: he winning the swing state, but he had the passion,

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Speaker 12: the energy, the intensity of vote. Every Trump supporter is

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Speaker 12: going to be a Trump voter for sure. And that

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Speaker 12: not to say with Biden. Now that it's Harris, everything

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Speaker 12: changes and I can't call it, and I can't wait

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Speaker 12: for that debate. And by the way, I will pay money.

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Speaker 12: I will seriously donate ten thousand dollars right now if

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Speaker 12: ABC News host that debate and you let me sit

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Speaker 12: in the studio, I will pay ten thousand dollars to

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Speaker 12: ABC News is or Bloomberg.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, I'd like to host that debate, Frank,

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Speaker 7: what about me and Joe?

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Speaker 12: Yes, I'd love you guys to do it, because at

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Speaker 12: least I could get into the building, because that would

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Speaker 12: be the most just contentious debate ever. These two candidates

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Speaker 12: don't like each other, don't respect each other, and have

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Speaker 12: no hesitation to express it. We're gonna have the most

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Speaker 12: negative campaign in the history of American politics, and I

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Speaker 12: want a front row seat.

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Speaker 4: So this turns the race completely here in your view,

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris has been beset with low favorability ratings. She

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Speaker 4: has been laden with a difficult portfolio, and until recently,

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Speaker 4: the abortion issue has played in her favor. Based on

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Speaker 4: some of our polling as opposed to the border, Americans

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Speaker 4: think they know Kamala Harris, do they actually What will

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Speaker 4: they learn about her in the week'sa.

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Speaker 12: She has the chance to redefine herself. Everything starts to

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Speaker 12: start from scratch. You start from scratch, and how she

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Speaker 12: presents herself. I brought this up yesterday, the laughter that

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Speaker 12: she would use, and I was criticized for saying it.

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Speaker 12: Why is it that women get yelled at for laughing? Well,

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Speaker 12: the fact is, in so many interviews, back to back

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Speaker 12: to back, you can see it on YouTube. This is

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Speaker 12: what she does when she gets asked a tough question.

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Speaker 12: That's number one. Number two is she wouldn't go to

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Speaker 12: the border for month after month after month, as Republican

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Speaker 12: House members, Republican senators were going down to making an issue,

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Speaker 12: she stayed away because she knew that it was toxic

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Speaker 12: for her. Number three, She never she never created a

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Speaker 12: separate identity from Joe Biden at number four. Quite frankly,

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Speaker 12: she went through staff pretty darn fast, and that tells

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Speaker 12: you something about the care to of an individual. None

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Speaker 12: of that matters now, it's all from this point forward.

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Speaker 12: She has the chance to redo herself. And you can

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Speaker 12: see by the fifty million dollars raised in one day

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Speaker 12: in small donations how significant this this decision was. This

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Speaker 12: race is on Monday, whatever date this is, the race

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Speaker 12: begins again with one hundred days to go.

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Speaker 7: Well, I wonder here how high the bar is for

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Speaker 7: her Because we've talked so much during the cycle about

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Speaker 7: double haters who didn't want Trump or Biden, or the

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Speaker 7: Nicky Haley primary voters who were decidedly not voting for

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump even after she had abandoned her presidential campaign.

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Speaker 7: How easy is the conversion from a double hater or

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Speaker 7: Nicki Haley voter to potentially a Kamala Harris voter.

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Speaker 12: It's not easy, but it can happen. And what's particularly

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Speaker 12: important in this is that the numbers are so small.

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Speaker 12: There was only four percent undecided before Harris became the Democrat,

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Speaker 12: the likely Democratic nominee. Now it's probably up to six

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Speaker 12: or seven percentage. People take a look at her. You

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Speaker 12: don't have to swing that many voters to create the

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Speaker 12: two hundred and seventy electoral votes. And the states that

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Speaker 12: mattered before matter now. Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Those are the

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Speaker 12: street states that are truly in play. And those states

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Speaker 12: this is why I think that that Governor Shapiro from

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Speaker 12: Pennsylvania would be, in my mind, the obvious choice for

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Speaker 12: the Democrats, because that takes Pennsylvania off the map, and

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Speaker 12: that gives potentially Joe Biden the election.

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Speaker 5: I want to ask you.

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Speaker 12: Sorry, Kamala Harris. And by the way, how many times

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Speaker 12: will people make that mistake?

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Speaker 5: Send me upuscle.

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Speaker 8: Memory is a hard thing.

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Speaker 5: This is so true.

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Speaker 4: We'll keep dating our checks here with Frank Luntz. The

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Speaker 4: question about process I want to ask you about because

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Speaker 4: there's already this idea of a smoke filled back room,

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Speaker 4: even though it's the vice president of the United States,

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Speaker 4: and whether the Democrats should have have some sort of

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Speaker 4: mini primary or some sort of nominating contest that makes

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Speaker 4: it feel like she was vetted Donald Trump on truth

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Speaker 4: social They stole the race from Biden after he wanted

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Speaker 4: in the primaries a first. These people are the real

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Speaker 4: threat to democracy. He's saying that Democrats have rigged the

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Speaker 4: race again. How do they make this appear like this

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Speaker 4: was not some sort of.

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Speaker 12: A deal, because it's a coronation. It is a deal,

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Speaker 12: but it requires someone to say I want to run.

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Speaker 12: It requires a Wes Moore who came out in favor

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Speaker 12: of her right, It requires a Corey Book I've not

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Speaker 12: heard from him yet. It requires some of these other

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Speaker 12: potential candidates. Gavin Newsom came out for Harris. Someone needs

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Speaker 12: to stand up and say we need this vote. The

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Speaker 12: only one who's done so at this point is Joe Manchin,

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Speaker 12: and it's unclear whether or not he will run, and

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Speaker 12: Mansion is too conservative for the average Democratic.

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Speaker 4: Now he tell the CBS today he's not running. Then

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Speaker 4: it's just Mary.

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Speaker 5: Anne Williams and I guess no one else at this point.

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Speaker 12: And she got what one percent of the vote in

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Speaker 12: the primaries, so this would have been an argument twenty

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Speaker 12: four hours ago. But if there's no candidate, then there's

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Speaker 12: no election, and this issue goes.

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Speaker 7: Away as we consider the other side of the aisle here,

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump and now a Trump Dvance ticket because he

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Speaker 7: had to make this selection of who was vice presidential

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Speaker 7: nominee was going to be before all of this went down.

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Speaker 7: What is to change for two white men as they

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Speaker 7: compete against potentially a woman of color. How can they

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Speaker 7: attack Kamala Harris without being vilified for it?

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Speaker 12: In some say they will be, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 12: it matters.

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Speaker 7: So they just treat her like they treated Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 7: in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 12: It worked for Trump. We forget that when Trump was elected,

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Speaker 12: she was not, even though she got more popular votes.

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Speaker 12: I think that people are aware of it. But in

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Speaker 12: the end, if you're a working class voter, and more specifically,

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Speaker 12: if you live paycheck to paycheck, you're going to ask yourself,

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Speaker 12: which one of these people know my circumstance and which

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Speaker 12: one of these people can fix my circumstance. Is twenty

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Speaker 12: five percent of the electorate working paycheck to paycheck. The

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Speaker 12: candidate that has the best agenda for those people and

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Speaker 12: seems to empathize with him and understands them. JD. Vans

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Speaker 12: comes from them, That's who he was, and his language

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Speaker 12: is actually better than Donald Trump's in speaking to them.

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Speaker 12: It's not necessarily inspiring to the corporate community and particularly

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Speaker 12: the people who watch this show. This is a very

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Speaker 12: educated and a wealthy audience that you have. This is

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Speaker 12: not a JD. Van's audience. This is not a Donald

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Speaker 12: Trump audience, but the people who do care. Does she

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Speaker 12: come across as being flippant, Does she come across as

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Speaker 12: truly understanding and empathizing, or is she trying to score

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Speaker 12: political points? And this is the one thing that the

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Speaker 12: Democrats have gotten wrong in times of economic distress. They

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Speaker 12: hear the Democratic message, but they hate it if they

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Speaker 12: think that they're being taken advantage of, if they think

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Speaker 12: it's just a political ploy or partisan trick. And she

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Speaker 12: in the past has communicated that a less than forthcoming

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Speaker 12: persona I remind you she raised tens of millions of

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Speaker 12: dollars as a candidate in twenty twenty. She didn't even

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Speaker 12: make it to Iowa, so she's had the chance before

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Speaker 12: she didn't succeed, But she's this is a new game,

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Speaker 12: a new day, a new office, a new electorate, so

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Speaker 12: I would not hold I would say to you that

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Speaker 12: everything begins fresh right now.

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Speaker 7: Well, as you were talking about who's going to appeal

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Speaker 7: to the working class votor that lives paycheck to paycheck,

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Speaker 7: which Jagievans obviously tried to do when accepting the nomination.

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Speaker 7: He of course grew up in Ohio, but his family

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Speaker 7: was from Kentucky. And we heard from the Kentucky Governor,

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Speaker 7: Andy Basheer about that notion when he spoke on MSNBC

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Speaker 7: Morning MSNBC's Morning Joe earlier today.

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Speaker 8: This is what he said.

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Speaker 5: Let me just tell you that jd.

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Speaker 13: Vance ain't from here now in the nerve that he

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Speaker 13: has to call the people of Kentucky, of eastern Kentucky lazy. Listen,

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Speaker 13: these are the hard working coal miners that towered the

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Speaker 13: industrial revolution, that created the strongest middle class the world

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Speaker 13: has ever seen, powered us through two World wars. We

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Speaker 13: should be thanking them, not calling them lazy.

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Speaker 7: He of course, is a democratic governor in what is

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Speaker 7: a deep red state. Some have suggested he too would

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Speaker 7: be a good compliment to Kamala Harris as a vice president.

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Speaker 7: But I know you said Shapiro earlier, would Basher be

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Speaker 7: just as good of a choice.

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Speaker 12: No, because he can bring Kentucky. He barely won his reelection.

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Speaker 12: He is not bringing that state over. Kentucky is solidly Republican.

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Speaker 12: He's been successful in winning that state for himself, but

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Speaker 12: he will not win it for the Harris ticket. But

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Speaker 12: he makes a really good point electorally, not in what

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Speaker 12: Vance said, but in how quick people are to respond,

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Speaker 12: to take things out of a context, to really jump

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Speaker 12: on in some cases badly spoken words, in other cases

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Speaker 12: twisted words. That's what's going to happen every single day

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Speaker 12: for the next one hundred days. And so what are

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Speaker 12: we going to have and the electorate that trusts no one?

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Speaker 12: All this is going to be is point counterpoint, attack

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Speaker 12: counterattack for one hundred days. And the states in play

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Speaker 12: are going to see this on their computers, on their laptops,

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Speaker 12: on their iPads, on their phones, on the billboards, on

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Speaker 12: the TV ads, on everything. I would not want to

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Speaker 12: be from Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin because you will hate

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Speaker 12: politics by the time this.

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Speaker 5: Is done thirty seconds. I don't want to cut you off.

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Speaker 4: How important is it for Nancy Pelosi to bless us today?

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Speaker 12: She's going to do it, and Hakeem Jeffreys is going

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Speaker 12: to do it. The timing it doesn't matter. It's not

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Speaker 12: that they're holding out. He said. People just go quickly

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Speaker 12: and some people go a little bit more slowly. She's

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Speaker 12: a nominee. There is no contest, there is no vote,

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Speaker 12: there is no debate, there's nothing. It's Harris versus Trump,

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Speaker 12: and God help us all.

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Speaker 4: God help us all, says Frank Lunce the voice we

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Speaker 4: wanted today. Thank you so much, Frank for being with us.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Bloomberg Balance of Power podcast. Can

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Speaker 1: just live weekdays at noon Eastern on Apple car Play

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Speaker 1: and then.

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Speaker 3: Roud Oro with a Bloomberg Business app.

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Speaker 2: Oh my.

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Speaker 7: Get the statement from Speaker America Nancy Pelosi endorsing Vice

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Speaker 7: President Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: Frank Lunz told it was done, just a matter of time,

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Speaker 4: and then he said would be the case for all parties.

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Speaker 4: Here Nancy Pelosi now makes it official.

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Speaker 7: In part of her statement, she says Kamala Harris, as

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Speaker 7: a woman in politics, is brilliantly astute, and I have

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Speaker 7: full confidence that she will lead us to victory in November.

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Speaker 7: She says, in the Democratic Party, our diversity is our

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Speaker 7: strength and our unity is our power. We must now

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Speaker 7: unify and charge forward to resoundingly defeat Donald Trump and

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Speaker 7: enthusiastically elect Kamala Harris as the next president of the

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Speaker 7: United States. She ends the statement Joe with onward to victory.

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Speaker 4: Keeping in mind it was Nancy Pelosi who orchestrated the

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Speaker 4: pressure campaign to get Joe Biden to drop out of

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Speaker 4: this cycle. She may not be the Speaker of the

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Speaker 4: House any longer, but she has been driving this conversation

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Speaker 4: from her own corner. Of course, her protege, Jakim Jeffreys,

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Speaker 4: I suspect will be soon to follow.

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Speaker 5: Then the questions again about Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 4: With a majority, now we should note of Democratic senators

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Speaker 4: backing Kamala Harris. The Obamas remain an interesting question mark here,

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Speaker 4: following what some would suggest is a challenged relationship with

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Speaker 4: the Biden family. Will be curious to see what this

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Speaker 4: means for Kamala Harris. But Kaylee, the idea at this

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Speaker 4: point of a contested convention or a mini primary is

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Speaker 4: starting to sound highly unlikely with names like these coming

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Speaker 4: behind the Harris campaign.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, especially considering that all of those who may have

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Speaker 7: been willing to throw their hats in the race for

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Speaker 7: the nomination, including a number of high profile Democratic governors,

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Speaker 7: have come out and endorse Harris. And of course, now

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Speaker 7: Independent Senator Joe Manchin, who we understood yesterday was teasing

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Speaker 7: the notion of reregistering as a Democrat and throwing his

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Speaker 7: hat in the ring, said this morning he would not

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Speaker 7: so even if there were to be a contested convention,

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Speaker 7: it's not clear who exactly wants a contest.

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Speaker 4: That's correct. Let's bring it to our political panel now.

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Speaker 4: Great to have Rick Davis with us a Stone Court Capital,

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Speaker 4: of course. Bloomberg contributor Jeanie Shanzo at Iona University our

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Speaker 4: signature panel. Great to have you both here, Genie, what's

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Speaker 4: your thought? Nancy Pelosi has spoken. You may not be

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Speaker 4: surprised by what she said, but sometimes it feels differently

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Speaker 4: when it happens.

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Speaker 5: Is this over? Kamala Harris is the nominee.

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Speaker 14: It is looking closer and closer to being over. I

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Speaker 14: love the fact that Nancy Pelosi listened to you and Kaylee,

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Speaker 14: and the minute you called for it, she delivered. They

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Speaker 14: are all going to be following suit. You know, I

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Speaker 14: don't think this is out of character for Barack Obama

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Speaker 14: and Michelle Obama. They have not wanted to get ahead

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Speaker 14: of the delegates traditionally in this kind of thing, but

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Speaker 14: they too will follow suit. I think the bigger question

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Speaker 14: here is going to be do any donors hold back.

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Speaker 14: We've already heard from a few who haven't been forthcoming yet,

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Speaker 14: and they may follow suit as it's clearer and clearer

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Speaker 14: that she is going to be the nominee. But I

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Speaker 14: think as it pertains to elected officials, to your point, Hakm, Jeffreys,

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Speaker 14: Chuck Schumer, eventually the Obamas, they will all follow suit

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Speaker 14: because one thing the Democrats don't have an appetite for

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Speaker 14: is more chaos. They want this result and they want

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Speaker 14: to go forward and try to beat Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 14: they still feel is a threat to democracy. So I

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Speaker 14: think that sort of explains why we're seeing this lineup

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Speaker 14: so quickly. And of course, to Frank's point earlier, you

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Speaker 14: can't beat somebody with nobody, and nobody has stepped forward

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Speaker 14: to challenge Roblin Harris.

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Speaker 7: Rick does this risk backfiring on the Democrats. Could this

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Speaker 7: be seen in the eyes of some voters who are

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Speaker 7: already not pleased with the choices that were laid before

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Speaker 7: them in this election, now to have effectively the third choice,

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Speaker 7: the alternate choice decided for them, Could this be a problem.

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Speaker 15: No, I think we all need to sort of just

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Speaker 15: check our temperature here. I mean, the reality is, this

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Speaker 15: is summer. This is when these kinds of things happen.

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Speaker 15: Usually it's August, not July high. But the bottom line is,

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Speaker 15: very few people are paying any attention to this presidential

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Speaker 15: campaign at this stage. They now know that Donald Trump's

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Speaker 15: become the nominee of the Republican Party, and because of

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Speaker 15: the blitzkreak over the weekend, I'd say half the people

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Speaker 15: probably now realize that Joe Biden is not running. It'll

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Speaker 15: take a while for this to sink in. And the

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Speaker 15: reality is people weren't expecting a competition. They weren't baited

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Speaker 15: breath like us, waiting for Joe Biden to withdraw his

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Speaker 15: candidacy and open it up to a convention. I mean,

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Speaker 15: you know, these are things we care a lot about,

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Speaker 15: but regular voters don't. They they want to offer up.

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Speaker 15: You know, give us your candidates. Come after a labor day.

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Speaker 15: They'll focus in and they'll they'll see what's going on. Remember,

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Speaker 15: I mean, only a little over twenty million people watch

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Speaker 15: Donald Trump's speech at the convention. I mean, this was

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Speaker 15: herald It is the biggest thing. He had just had

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Speaker 15: an assassination attempt. He was going to describe it for

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Speaker 15: the first time on the stage. When John McCain got

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Speaker 15: the nomination in two thousand and eight, eighty million people

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Speaker 15: focused in, fifty five sixty million more than Trump. Nobody

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Speaker 15: is paying attention to this campaign because they didn't like

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Speaker 15: either of the candidates. They don't like Trump and they

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Speaker 15: don't like Biden. Now they're going to have to figure

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Speaker 15: out do they like Kamala so much?

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Speaker 5: For the hul Cogan draw genie.

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Speaker 4: Now that we do have Milwaukee behind us, no one's

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Speaker 4: talking about it today, whether they watched it or not,

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Speaker 4: because this is the story right now, whether you call

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Speaker 4: it a coronation or something else. Kamala Harris has to

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Speaker 4: get on the road and to Rick's point, start identifying

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Speaker 4: herself and attempting, I guess to identify her opponent. Even

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Speaker 4: though people know a lot about Donald Trump at this point,

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Speaker 4: how does she turn the age issue on him? Starting now?

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Speaker 14: First of all, I'm very sad to hear Rick David

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Speaker 14: say nobody's paying attention to this. He may be right,

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Speaker 14: but gosh, it's all I'm living and breathing. So it's

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Speaker 14: troubling at Bill very least, you know. I think what

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Speaker 14: she's got to do is she's got to reintroduce herself

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Speaker 14: to the American people. As vice president. She was handed

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Speaker 14: initially a couple of really difficult tasks, number one being

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Speaker 14: the border, number two being the Voting Rights Act, the

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Speaker 14: John Lewis Voting Rights Act, and that has not voted

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Speaker 14: very well for her on both areas. So she needs to,

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Speaker 14: now that she is going to be on the top

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Speaker 14: of this ticket, potentially reintroduce herself. And we already hear

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Speaker 14: what her campaign wants to focus on, reproductive rights and

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Speaker 14: her prosecutorial background, and those are two critically important issues crime,

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Speaker 14: the issue of security, and the issue of freedom and

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Speaker 14: liberty to do with our bodies what we want. Those

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Speaker 14: are amongst if you set aside the all important issue

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Speaker 14: of the economy and inflation, the most important issue on

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Speaker 14: the minds of many voters and so she needs to

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Speaker 14: focus on those and she needs to prove her bona

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Speaker 14: fides there, and she needs to distinguish herself from Donald Trump.

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Speaker 14: The more she can make this about Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 14: is now the oldest nominee ever to run for president,

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Speaker 14: the better off for her, because many of his issues

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Speaker 14: are not attractive and he has never broken through that

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Speaker 14: ceiling of about forty five percent.

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Speaker 7: Well, Genie, as you talk about Kamala Harris as a prosecutor,

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Speaker 7: can she not only make age an issue in a

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Speaker 7: way that it hasn't been for Donald Trump as much

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Speaker 7: as it was for Joe Biden, but also Donald Trump's

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Speaker 7: conviction on thirty four felon accounts in the hush money

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Speaker 7: case in New York. We saw Joe Biden attempting to

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Speaker 7: do that in the debate. I think we all know

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Speaker 7: how that went down. By and large, it doesn't seem

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Speaker 7: to have dented Trump's appeal for American voters at all.

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Speaker 7: Can Kamala Harris change that?

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Speaker 11: She absolutely can.

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Speaker 14: We need to remember the reason she is vice president

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Speaker 14: is because her strong debate against Joe Biden. She is

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Speaker 14: a very good prosecutor and a very good debater. And

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Speaker 14: you could even just go back and look at the

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Speaker 14: clips of her questioning somebody like Brett Kathanot from her

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Speaker 14: perch in the Senate.

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Speaker 11: She knows how.

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Speaker 14: To prosecute these cases. She does so effectively, and she

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Speaker 14: can do it against Donald Trump. It's going to be

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Speaker 14: fascinating if we get them in the same room and

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Speaker 14: that debate goes forward, hopefully on Bloomberg as opposed to ABC,

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Speaker 14: but if it goes forward on ABC, I'll be watching.

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Speaker 14: But it is going to be fascinating because let's not

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Speaker 14: forget Donald Trump has had a track record of difficulty

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Speaker 14: against women, and she is a woman who is a

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Speaker 14: formidable debater. She hasn't proven herself to be as great

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Speaker 14: as campaigning, but a very good prosecutor and debater.

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Speaker 4: Rick, if you were advising Donald Trump's campaign, then with

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Speaker 4: that said, would you allow him on stage with Kamala

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Speaker 4: Harris or is it imperative that he debate?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I would probably tell him not to debate. He's

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Speaker 15: not a great debater to begin with. If not for

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Speaker 15: the you know, complete disaster which was the Joe Biden performance,

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Speaker 15: we'd all be talking about, you know, almost thirty untruths

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Speaker 15: told by Donald Trump at the debate is aggressive style.

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Speaker 15: I mean, you know, I think that anytime Donald Trump

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Speaker 15: gets in front of another candidate, he can't help himself

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Speaker 15: but go right for the throat. And doing that to

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Speaker 15: Vice President Harris, I think would be very dangerous. The

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Speaker 15: reality is they're playing from a lead. He's already said

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Speaker 15: he doesn't want a debate ABC in that George Stephanopolis guy,

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Speaker 15: he'd much rather have now this debate than Fox. Sounds

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Speaker 15: to me like a great exit door to kicking the

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Speaker 15: can on a debate. If I were Kamala Harris's team,

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Speaker 15: I'd say, yeah, Fox is great. We'd love to go

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Speaker 15: into your house and you show us, show you up.

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Speaker 11: I'd call their cards on it.

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Speaker 15: Like today.

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Speaker 7: Wow, well, Rick, as you pointed out, we did get

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Speaker 7: a truth social post from Donald Trump yesterday, who talked

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Speaker 7: about how he was slated to debate Joe Biden on

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Speaker 7: what he calls fake news ABC, the home of George

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Speaker 7: slop Adopolis sometime in September. He said, now that Joe

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Speaker 7: has not surprisingly quit the race, I think the debate

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Speaker 7: with whoever the radical left Democrats jew should be held

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Speaker 7: on Fox News rather than the very biased ABC.

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Speaker 8: I guess we'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 7: But while we're talking about other news outlets, it's worth

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Speaker 7: noting that, according to Politico, they have just scooped the

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Speaker 7: future forward. The flagship Superpack blessed by Joe Biden, received

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Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty million dollars and new commitments from

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Speaker 7: major Democratic donors in the twenty four hours since Biden

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Speaker 7: announced he would step aside. If we're following the money, genie,

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Speaker 7: what does that tell you?

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Speaker 14: That tells us that this thing is pretty much over

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Speaker 14: in terms of her being the nominee. Those are incredibly

994
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Speaker 14: strong numbers for her and the way in which Joe

995
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Speaker 14: Biden engineered this endorsement, So they the Democrats have to

996
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 14: got to be feeling good. They can't get over their

997
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Speaker 14: skis on this. Of course, there's a lot of round

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Speaker 14: cover here, but the money issue and the fact that

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Speaker 14: it looks like she can move into this campaign fairly

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Speaker 14: smoothly and take over the campaign apparatus, that vodes very

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Speaker 14: well for Kamala Harris and the Democrats, And so I

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Speaker 14: think they've got to be looking at that and the

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Speaker 14: fifty million we heard about earlier in the day as

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Speaker 14: a strong endorsement, particularly the small donor money.

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Speaker 4: All right, Rick Davis and Genie Shanzano are great panel

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Speaker 4: with us here our signature panel on the Monday edition

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Speaker 4: of Balance of Power. I just want to wrap with

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Speaker 4: this Rick big picture here. It's something that came from

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Speaker 4: the Florida delegation meeting a bit earlier on today, as

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Speaker 4: they coalesced behind Kamala Harris. There was a statement that

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Speaker 4: emerged following their endorsement, and it said that we're running

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Speaker 4: a prosecutor against a convicted felon. Is that, in the end,

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Speaker 4: how you would frame this contest?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's one of the ways.

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Speaker 15: I think it's a nice contrast, and it brings back

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Speaker 15: up the low point of Donald Trump's campaign so far

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Speaker 15: was the week after his conviction. So I think Democrats

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Speaker 15: want to get back to having that conversation, and I

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Speaker 15: think that's right. I think this prosecutor's role has multiple values.

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Speaker 15: If she was thinking about it, she'd go down the

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Speaker 15: border and give a speech about how as a prosecutor

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Speaker 15: she learned how to get on top of crime and

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Speaker 15: wouldn't allow us single criminal, whether they're human traffickers or

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Speaker 15: cartels or coming from other countries, not one criminal is

1025
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Speaker 15: going to cross this border. If I'm president, I mean

1026
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Speaker 15: she can change the tone of this thing with that

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Speaker 15: one credential in a way that nobody else could.

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Speaker 7: All Right, Rick Davis and Jeanie Shanzino, Bloomberg Politics contributors,

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Speaker 7: thank you so much for joining us as we try

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Speaker 7: to parse through exactly how this race has been upended

1031
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Speaker 7: in the last twenty four hours and what all of

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Speaker 7: this meaning means. Certainly financial markets are trying to get

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Speaker 7: their heads around that as well.

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Speaker 4: I'm Joe Matthew alongside Kaylee Lines with great questions. Now, Kaylee,

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Speaker 4: assuming this is the case, and boy it sure seems

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Speaker 4: like it today, Kamala Harris has no challenges. She has

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Speaker 4: the bulk of the Democratic Party behind her, with a

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Speaker 4: couple of key exceptions we're waiting to hear from the Obamas,

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Speaker 4: for instance, and Chuck Schumer, but remarkable number of endorsements

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Speaker 4: just today alone, including state delegations. So the question becomes

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Speaker 4: the messaging that she will pose against Donald Trump, the

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Speaker 4: narrative that she could turn on the age.

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Speaker 5: Issue, but also on the race issue.

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Speaker 4: With Donald Trump showing in polls that he's been attracting

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Speaker 4: many young black voters, black men, for instance, away from

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden, which has been confounding for the Biden campaign,

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Speaker 4: and you wonder if it stops that narrative dead in

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Speaker 4: its tracks.

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Speaker 7: Well, this is something I actually asked a polster for

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Speaker 7: the Biden what was the Biden Harris campaign? So Linda

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Speaker 7: Lake about last night whether or not Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 7: the candidate who can bring back some of that coalition

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Speaker 7: young voters, voters of color back into the Democratic Party

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Speaker 7: where they had straight away, And this was her response.

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Speaker 16: She is exactly the person to bring that coalition together.

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Speaker 16: And it's not just bringing it together, which is a

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Speaker 16: very good question, it's also energizing it. A lot of

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Speaker 16: young people and people of color are thinking, I can

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Speaker 16: stay home on the couch here, I don't have to

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Speaker 16: go to the polls. So energize them, unite them and

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Speaker 16: energizing you, not our side, litigate the case, make a

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Speaker 16: strong case for our accomplishments. She's a great candidate at

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Speaker 16: just the right moment.

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Speaker 4: Let's add the voice now if Glinda Carr, President, CEO

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Speaker 4: and co founder of Higher Heights for America. Glinda is

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Speaker 4: great to have you with us today on Bloomberg TV

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Speaker 4: and Radio.

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Speaker 5: What is your thought on this?

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Speaker 17: I mean, this is a pivotal election cycle.

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Speaker 18: We said this before yesterday, and so I think I

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Speaker 18: would say that we're in her first full day as

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Speaker 18: candidate or president Kamala Harris, and so we can have

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Speaker 18: multiple feelings, right, I think people know the direction of

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Speaker 18: where the Democrats are going. We can obviously thank Joe

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Speaker 18: Biden for his service and mourn the loss of his suspension. Right,

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Speaker 18: we also can celebrate Higher Heights is the political home

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Speaker 18: for black women.

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Speaker 17: We help blackmen to vote, run, win.

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Speaker 11: And lead.

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Speaker 18: And over the last twenty four hours, it's an opportunity

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Speaker 18: to be excited about the historic nature of a Kamala

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Speaker 18: Harris presidency. But also we know that as we celebrate,

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Speaker 18: we're going to prepare to support, defend, mobilize, and organize.

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Speaker 7: Well, Glinda, I'm glad you point out the historic nature

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Speaker 7: of this. Obviously, the United States of America has never

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Speaker 7: had a woman as president, let alone a woman of color.

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Speaker 7: Are you convinced the country is ready for it?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 18: I need America to believe in the possibilities of a

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Speaker 18: Kamala Harris presidency, not just because it's a historic because

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Speaker 18: she sits at the intersection of race and gender. But

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Speaker 18: here is a woman who has run and won and

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Speaker 18: governed on every level of government. She was a local

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Speaker 18: elected official, She was a statewide executive as Attorney General

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Speaker 18: for California. She was a federal elected leader in the

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Speaker 18: US Senate, and now is governing as Vice president. She

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Speaker 18: is duly qualified for this moment. But listening to my

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Speaker 18: colleague Celinda Lake, I believe that her multiple identities is

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Speaker 18: her superpower in this moment of a divided country. I

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Speaker 18: believe her candidacy, in the way she will organize her campaign,

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Speaker 18: will build a coalition of voters looking to move this

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Speaker 18: country to higher heights in a moment where we're concerned

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Speaker 18: about rolling back the very rights that my grandmother and

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Speaker 18: mother have bought for on women's rights, human rights, voting rights,

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Speaker 18: and on reproductive rights.

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Speaker 4: There could be more endorsements coming in the next couple

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Speaker 4: of hours. Here as CNN reports, essentially what we were

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Speaker 4: just talking about here, Chuck Schumer HAKM jeffries to endorse

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Speaker 4: Harris as soon as today, unlocked potentially by Nancy Pelosi's endorsement,

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Speaker 4: that will likely lead the way to more Glinda. I'm

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Speaker 4: taken by the language, the rhetoric we're already hearing in

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Speaker 4: this campaign, and I know that this is nothing new

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Speaker 4: for Kamala Harris. Donald Trump specifically mispronounces her name on purpose,

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Speaker 4: and his campaign is now referring to her. This is

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Speaker 4: from a co manager of the campaign, not even Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump himself referring to her as laughin' Kamala. We heard

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Speaker 4: cacklin Kamala coming from Donald Trump on the podium.

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Speaker 5: These tropes. Does she acknowledge them or move on?

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Speaker 18: I think that's the work of organizations like Higher Heights

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Speaker 18: on two fronts calling out the racism and sexism in

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Speaker 18: this moment, but also the missing disinformation that has swirled

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Speaker 18: around Kamala Harris. Particularly, there is a portion of this

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Speaker 18: country that has created it politically toxic and racially divisive times.

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Speaker 18: I think most Americans want an election where we are

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Speaker 18: fighting and debating on values, on policies, and on the

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Speaker 18: direction of this country, and I think you're going to

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Speaker 18: see a growing course of not only just Black women,

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Speaker 18: but Americans who are going to call out Trump and

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Speaker 18: his supporters on creating unnecessary, you know, negative attack on

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Speaker 18: Vice President Harris.

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Speaker 7: Well, Glinda, as you talk about the values of this

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Speaker 7: group of voters in particular, what we've been talking about

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Speaker 7: for this entire election cycle is how ultimately the outcome

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Speaker 7: could be just about turnout, about whether voters in key

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Speaker 7: swing states actually show up and cast a vote. What

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Speaker 7: are the values, what are the issues that drive turn

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Speaker 7: out this cycle?

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Speaker 18: For this group, voters are concerned about the direction of

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Speaker 18: this country first and foremost people are ready for a

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Speaker 18: new direction in this country as it relates to the

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Speaker 18: work of higher heights organizing black women. Black women when

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Speaker 18: they're fired up, which given what we've seen over the

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Speaker 18: last twenty four hours, black women do not organize themselves

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Speaker 18: to the polls. They also bring their house, their block,

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Speaker 18: their church, their sorority, and their union.

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Speaker 8: I believe that.

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Speaker 18: A Kamala Harris presidency will also ignite the possibilities of

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Speaker 18: leadership of young voters and a coalition of voters that

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Speaker 18: come from different parts of this country, social economic backgrounds

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Speaker 18: that have a common goal about making sure that we

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Speaker 18: are creating economically thriving, educated, healthy and safe community for

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Speaker 18: all Americans. And in this moment, I believe in the

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Speaker 18: possibilities of black women leading America. We need to have

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Speaker 18: direct conversations with those that we live with in our

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Speaker 18: neighbors about the direction of this country and what the

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Speaker 18: work will need to be done to ensure that we

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Speaker 18: are having a free, fair election where voters can vote

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Speaker 18: for the candidate that they believe is best suited in

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Speaker 18: this moment, well.

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Speaker 4: Her record as a prosecutor hurt or help her with

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Speaker 4: the Black community and with the electorate at large.

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Speaker 18: I think it's important to say the first thing that

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Speaker 18: Vice President Harris said yesterday in her statement was she

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Speaker 18: wants to earn the vote of Americans and that is

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Speaker 18: her work.

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Speaker 17: To talk about her record, which is broad.

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Speaker 18: Again, I said, this is a woman who has run

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Speaker 18: one and governed on all levels of government, and she's

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Speaker 18: going to make the case that her portfolio of work,

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Speaker 18: her portfolio of accomplishments, and her vision for this country

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Speaker 18: will create.

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Speaker 17: Create a value based case of how she's going to

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Speaker 17: earn the votes of Americans. Across this country.

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Speaker 7: Glinda, Obviously, we focused pretty much all of our conversation

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Speaker 7: today on Kamala Harris being a presidential candidate, but I

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Speaker 7: know a higher heights. You're focused on elevating black women

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Speaker 7: in all areas of government. What do you expect the

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Speaker 7: trickle down effect of her candidacy or potentially we could

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Speaker 7: be talking about her presidency one day. We'll have for

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Speaker 7: others to follow her.

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Speaker 18: The late Shirley Chisholm, the first black woman to serve

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Speaker 18: in Congress, once said, I have faith in America. I

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Speaker 18: certainly believe that my fellow Americans have wavered in that

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Speaker 18: in the last couple of years, giving the turmoil of

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Speaker 18: our democracy. Kamala Harris's candidacy will energize not only black

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Speaker 18: voters and black women, but a coalition of voters that

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Speaker 18: will create a wave to elect a very diverse group

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Speaker 18: of candidates that are running across this country, including her

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Speaker 18: ability to support electing.

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Speaker 17: Two black women to the US Senate.

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Speaker 18: Currently, there have only been two black women serving elected

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Speaker 18: and serving in the United States House of Representative in

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Speaker 18: nineteen ninety two, Carol Moseley bron being the first black

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Speaker 18: woman to serve and it almost took twenty years to

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Speaker 18: have the second, which was Kamala Harris in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 18: We currently have la Fonda Butler from California serving. She

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Speaker 18: was appointed earlier this year. We've never had a black

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Speaker 18: woman two black women serving at the same time. And

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Speaker 18: we have two candidates, current Congresswoman Lisa Block Rochester in

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Speaker 18: Delaware and Prince George's executive Angela Ousinbrooks and Maryland running

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Speaker 18: and they're both two competitive races that have an opportunity

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Speaker 18: to cattle pult two black women to the US in

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Speaker 18: it at the same time.

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Speaker 5: Well, Glinda, we're glad you could join us today.

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Speaker 4: Glenda Carr of Higher Heights for America Pack, thank you

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Speaker 4: for the insights and what is clearly the best backdrop

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