1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,159
Speaker 1: Prescott back and looking a lot of time throws Middle

2
00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,000
Speaker 1: caught fifteen and they've intercepted by the Lions. DJ Reed said,

3
00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,440
Speaker 1: I'll take it, and the Lions have it, and they've

4
00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,319
Speaker 1: got this game.

5
00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,600
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Twin the Huddle Podcast. And I can't

6
00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,960
Speaker 2: believe it is already Week fifteen of the NFL season.

7
00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,480
Speaker 2: This is flying by Larry Lashm Associated Press who's been

8
00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,759
Speaker 2: covering the Lions for I think probably longer than I

9
00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,920
Speaker 2: have there. How long have you been with the Associated Press?

10
00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,479
Speaker 3: Now, well, two thousand was when I started, So my

11
00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,040
Speaker 3: first season for the Associated Press was two thousand. Also

12
00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,680
Speaker 3: covered the team home games for a couple of years

13
00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,960
Speaker 3: in the Barry Sanders era when I was a freelancer

14
00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,400
Speaker 3: for the Lancey State Journal. So twenty eighth season overall,

15
00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,120
Speaker 3: and that's a long time for someone who's fifty two.

16
00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,760
Speaker 3: And I've seen it all from oh to sixteen to

17
00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,640
Speaker 3: you know up seventeen, third quarter NFC Championship game, about

18
00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,760
Speaker 3: to push the button on my Super Bowl flight to

19
00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:02,400
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. And this season has been as expected, topsy turvy.

20
00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,319
Speaker 3: I think everyone knew the schedule and the loss of coordinators,

21
00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,360
Speaker 3: it wasn't gonna be like last year. And I think

22
00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,679
Speaker 3: I had them at twelve and five before the season started,

23
00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,560
Speaker 3: and I think Lions fans hope I'm right so they

24
00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,680
Speaker 3: can get there. I mean, I might as well stick

25
00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,560
Speaker 3: with my pay you got it, you gotta stick with

26
00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:18,880
Speaker 3: it now.

27
00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,039
Speaker 2: But Larry has set up a really fun December and

28
00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,920
Speaker 2: a nice last month. Coaches always talked about wine to

29
00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,840
Speaker 2: play meeting silver games in the month of December, and

30
00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,280
Speaker 2: it's gonna make Detroit have to play good football heading

31
00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,200
Speaker 2: into the playoffs if they're going to get there, Because

32
00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,560
Speaker 2: they got to put together some wins and put a

33
00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,600
Speaker 2: street together. They got one against Dallas that was it

34
00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,560
Speaker 2: wasn't a must win, but it was pretty close kind

35
00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,039
Speaker 2: of where they were or what did you like most

36
00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,440
Speaker 2: about that win over Dallas? You know last Thursday setting

37
00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,600
Speaker 2: up now a fun road trip to La this upcoming weekend.

38
00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,920
Speaker 3: Well, I described it as a much needed win and

39
00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,840
Speaker 3: there was urgency in yes, without a doubt, and every

40
00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,760
Speaker 3: game really is going to be that way. I mean,

41
00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,840
Speaker 3: they've been in playoff mode here for a while and

42
00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,880
Speaker 3: it was it was a huge game. They really needed

43
00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,120
Speaker 3: to win this game, and I think from the Lion's perspective.

44
00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,760
Speaker 3: What I thought was a great sign of being adaptable

45
00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,119
Speaker 3: is they opened up the pass to open up everything

46
00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,840
Speaker 3: they threw. I think I didn't break down the numbers

47
00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,760
Speaker 3: or anything, but like eight of the night first nine

48
00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,360
Speaker 3: snaps for throws something like that. Don't quote me now,

49
00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,680
Speaker 3: it was five days ago. But the big thing is

50
00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,760
Speaker 3: this team needs to get the ball to Jamir Gibbs.

51
00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,360
Speaker 3: And it was against a stout run defense, and I

52
00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,440
Speaker 3: think Dan Campbell did a great job of getting the

53
00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,840
Speaker 3: ball to Gibbs in space. In the passing game. There

54
00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,639
Speaker 3: was one play on the first drive that was technically

55
00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,560
Speaker 3: a run because it was a lateral, but goff through

56
00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200
Speaker 3: a long lateral to the left and I think it

57
00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,080
Speaker 3: was a nineteen yard gain. So Jamiir Gibbs, as the

58
00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,080
Speaker 3: Lions said when they got him, he's a dual threat player.

59
00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,680
Speaker 3: We don't see him as a running back, you know,

60
00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,240
Speaker 3: between the tackle about cow running back. He's a player

61
00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,880
Speaker 3: and certainly he's as electric as there is in the league.

62
00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,640
Speaker 3: And the Lions are lucky to have them and a

63
00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,000
Speaker 3: player that the Lions got out of the Stafford trade.

64
00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,280
Speaker 2: It means something this week, obviously, with the Lions going

65
00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,079
Speaker 2: back to La and seeing Stafford again. Lions have had

66
00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,480
Speaker 2: the upper hand in the last couple of those battles.

67
00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,760
Speaker 2: But to your point about Jamiir two seven catches seventy

68
00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,919
Speaker 2: seven yards in that game against Dallas, Larry's got fifty

69
00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,960
Speaker 2: eight catches on the year. He had fifty two in

70
00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,720
Speaker 2: each of his first two years, so he's already you

71
00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,520
Speaker 2: know Max now you know, maxed over those numbers and

72
00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,960
Speaker 2: we still got four games left, and so you know

73
00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,080
Speaker 2: they are trying to find ways to get him the ball.

74
00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,920
Speaker 2: Four games this year with seventy five plus receiving yards,

75
00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,720
Speaker 2: so you know, to your point that you know it's

76
00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,880
Speaker 2: really it's not about just handing it off to Jamiir.

77
00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,280
Speaker 2: They realized and I think once Sam Laporta went down,

78
00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,800
Speaker 2: they realized they needed kind of some more help in

79
00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,800
Speaker 2: another weapon in the past game, and Jamier's kind of

80
00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,280
Speaker 2: stepped in and ben that Frost touches.

81
00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,800
Speaker 3: And this was a different game statistically for the Lions.

82
00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,400
Speaker 3: It was the first game that Jamiir Gibbs was held

83
00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,960
Speaker 3: under second game the Lions are two and five when

84
00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,200
Speaker 3: Gibbs averages fewer than four yards of carry, and he

85
00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,760
Speaker 3: certainly did in this game. Yeah, when he's four and

86
00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,440
Speaker 3: a half yards of carry or more, they're undefeated. Of course,

87
00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,760
Speaker 3: if you run, you have a better chance. But again

88
00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,039
Speaker 3: to the point I made earlier, Dan Campbell knew he

89
00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,240
Speaker 3: needed to get the ball to Gibbs in the passing game,

90
00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,240
Speaker 3: and he said as much that you know, this was

91
00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,720
Speaker 3: gonna be a game that we were going to lean

92
00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,920
Speaker 3: on our passing game, and the offensive line, much maligned,

93
00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,919
Speaker 3: stepped up and gave Golf time. Golf had time unlike

94
00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,200
Speaker 3: the previous two or three games, frankly, and that sets

95
00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,720
Speaker 3: up everything. And you know, if the offensive line can

96
00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,800
Speaker 3: give Golf time, he's pretty good.

97
00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

98
00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,680
Speaker 2: I like the other side of the ball too, And

99
00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,840
Speaker 2: and the way they were able to generate pressure twenty

100
00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,520
Speaker 2: nine total pressures, nineteen quarterbackhur He's five sacks, three from

101
00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,520
Speaker 2: al Kady Muhammad. They've been looking for that guy to

102
00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,039
Speaker 2: step up, you know, opposite Aiden Hutchinson, and it was

103
00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,000
Speaker 2: El Kadan on Thursday, a leam stepped into and look

104
00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,800
Speaker 2: to your point of, you know, being able to run

105
00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,960
Speaker 2: the football and being able to get Jamier involved. When

106
00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,640
Speaker 2: you do that, you have a better chance of winning.

107
00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,120
Speaker 2: In Detroit Lions eight wins this year there they have

108
00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,920
Speaker 2: sixteen they're averaging twenty four total pressures and sixteen quarterback

109
00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,760
Speaker 2: hurries in their five losses. That goes down to only

110
00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,600
Speaker 2: thirteen pressures and nine quarterback hurries. So when they can

111
00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,400
Speaker 2: affect the quarterback, they have a better chance of obviously winning.

112
00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,400
Speaker 2: And I love to see that part of it Thursday too.

113
00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,039
Speaker 2: Let's hope they can take that into La.

114
00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just one more point about the defense. Three takeaways.

115
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,000
Speaker 3: That was huge, and that has been something that had

116
00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,880
Speaker 3: been lacking in some recent weeks. And Nick Saban taught

117
00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,880
Speaker 3: me years ago when I covered him at Michigan State

118
00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,880
Speaker 3: for the Lancia State Journal, that you know, look at

119
00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,839
Speaker 3: the turnover margin and that'll usually tell.

120
00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,520
Speaker 4: You who wins the game.

121
00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,800
Speaker 3: And this one was three to zero in favor of

122
00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,719
Speaker 3: the Lions in terms of forcing turnovers and not giving

123
00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,000
Speaker 3: it up.

124
00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,120
Speaker 2: And Dan talked about that on Monday too, that that's

125
00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,599
Speaker 2: got to be a trend that continues, especially Sunday in

126
00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,080
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. It's against a very good and very explosive

127
00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,200
Speaker 2: Rams team on both sides of the football. The Lions

128
00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,720
Speaker 2: lost Brian Branch to a torn achilles How much do

129
00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,880
Speaker 2: you expect that to affect them in the immediacy and

130
00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,839
Speaker 2: maybe even the long term.

131
00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,200
Speaker 3: I think it's a huge hit. There's just not a

132
00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,920
Speaker 3: lot of hard hitting safeties who can cover, and Brian

133
00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,719
Speaker 3: Branch is one of them, particularly because the Lions have

134
00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,160
Speaker 3: been without Kirby Joseph for some time now. And I'm

135
00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,719
Speaker 3: going to make an early prediction that Kirby Joseph plays

136
00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,039
Speaker 3: some snaps in this game in Los Angeles. This is

137
00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,920
Speaker 3: not inside information. I just think it's time is I

138
00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,120
Speaker 3: think you know, he's going to have to deal with

139
00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,760
Speaker 3: some pain, and only Kirby knows how much pain he

140
00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,840
Speaker 3: has to deal with, but they really need him, and

141
00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,680
Speaker 3: I just am just gonna go out on a limb

142
00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,640
Speaker 3: and I say he gets some limited and if they

143
00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,360
Speaker 3: could get him playing center field against Stafford, that would

144
00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,120
Speaker 3: be huge. Again to the point, you just no one

145
00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,040
Speaker 3: has a backup Brian Branch, and you look at the

146
00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:18,440
Speaker 3: secondary now without three starters Kirby Joseph, Brian Branch, Terry

147
00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,800
Speaker 3: On Arnold, and yet a lot of the players have

148
00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,520
Speaker 3: have stepped up.

149
00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,360
Speaker 4: Harper will be a key one to watch.

150
00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,600
Speaker 2: Stealing concussion protocol but working his way through it.

151
00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,840
Speaker 3: Right, and that'll be one to watch. You gotta think

152
00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,040
Speaker 3: that's gonna be one that goes down to the wire,

153
00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,680
Speaker 3: and of course they're going to air on the side

154
00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,960
Speaker 3: of caution with that. Maddox has been pretty good on

155
00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,760
Speaker 3: the backside, So even more snaps from him, and you know,

156
00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,000
Speaker 3: maybe some of these veteran corners can give you some

157
00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,920
Speaker 3: snaps in the deep middle and get creative.

158
00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,560
Speaker 2: We've seen Rockston do that in training camp. They've crossed

159
00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,480
Speaker 2: trained those. But I like when you brought up Avonte

160
00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,320
Speaker 2: Maddox too. I mean, that's a guy that's won Super

161
00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,760
Speaker 2: Bowl last year with Philadelphi's played a lot of good football.

162
00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,720
Speaker 2: I think he had eight tackles, a force fumble in

163
00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,360
Speaker 2: a pass defended when he stepped in and filled in

164
00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,160
Speaker 2: for Harper. So I think Brad Holmes has done a

165
00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,400
Speaker 2: really nice job of creating some depth in the secondary

166
00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,560
Speaker 2: and they've kind of weathered the storm. We talked, you

167
00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,960
Speaker 2: know about the legion of home back in Tampa Bay.

168
00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,400
Speaker 2: Those guys stepping in and filling in and playing big roles,

169
00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,920
Speaker 2: and Avante Maddox did that last week. So you know,

170
00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,040
Speaker 2: I obviously it's such a huge loss because he means

171
00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,120
Speaker 2: so much of your defense just with his versatility and

172
00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,040
Speaker 2: what he can do in terms of covering tight ends

173
00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,400
Speaker 2: and playing the nickel and playing the deep part of

174
00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,680
Speaker 2: the safety in the box and blitzing. But the fact

175
00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,040
Speaker 2: that you've got Avante Maddox, they are not a lot

176
00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,400
Speaker 2: of teams I don't think they're have that kind of

177
00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,160
Speaker 2: guy that can step in who's won a Super Bowl

178
00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,840
Speaker 2: and started a lot of games in this league. So

179
00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,520
Speaker 2: it's obviously a big blow. But it's nice to have

180
00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,160
Speaker 2: a guy like an Avante Maddox, you know, sitting back

181
00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,600
Speaker 2: there ready to step in if needed.

182
00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,480
Speaker 3: And you know with the new practice squad set up,

183
00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,360
Speaker 3: you can keep veterans on the bench and that can

184
00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,200
Speaker 3: still help you. And I know Brad Holmes and his

185
00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,240
Speaker 3: team will be scouring every option in that regard as well.

186
00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,600
Speaker 3: So you know they've proven they are pretty good in

187
00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,000
Speaker 3: the transaction wire department, and this will be another opportunity

188
00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:16,520
Speaker 3: to show that.

189
00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,520
Speaker 2: All Right, you set off the top, you're you're gonna

190
00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,480
Speaker 2: still go with the twelve boys. What do you think

191
00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,600
Speaker 2: takes it? How many wins will it take to get

192
00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,040
Speaker 2: into the playoffs.

193
00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,680
Speaker 3: I think twelve is the safe number, because I'm not

194
00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,280
Speaker 3: sure eleven does it now eleven does it? I think

195
00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,600
Speaker 3: if that win is includes Chicago. But you look at

196
00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,600
Speaker 3: you know, the NFC tie breakers that might work against

197
00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,040
Speaker 3: the Lions, you know, and I think of the four games,

198
00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,839
Speaker 3: this one in front of them is the toughest. I

199
00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,280
Speaker 3: think the odds makers would probably say the same. You

200
00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,920
Speaker 3: would think the Steelers at home is a very winnable

201
00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,880
Speaker 3: game at Minnesota. Of course they bounce back and blew

202
00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,360
Speaker 3: Washington with JJ McCarthy.

203
00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,439
Speaker 2: So already lost it once week nine, clearly.

204
00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,760
Speaker 3: You know, I just think that game in Chicago is

205
00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,719
Speaker 3: going to be for a lot something. It's gonna be

206
00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,520
Speaker 3: for a lot, But the Lions have to make it,

207
00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,960
Speaker 3: uh mean a lot and have a lot of stakes first,

208
00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,040
Speaker 3: you know, with a win at LA won't be easy,

209
00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,760
Speaker 3: of course, you know. And does eleven and six do it?

210
00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,120
Speaker 4: Uh? Maybe?

211
00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,760
Speaker 3: Uh maybe not because gosh, you just look at the

212
00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,319
Speaker 3: NFC standings. There's so many teams with nine wins, and

213
00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,760
Speaker 3: it's gonna be you know, a log jam to get in.

214
00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,760
Speaker 2: The saving grace is a lot of those teams with

215
00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,960
Speaker 2: nine wins, ten wins have to play each other yet,

216
00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,439
Speaker 2: and so they're going to drop back.

217
00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,360
Speaker 4: You know a little bit.

218
00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,880
Speaker 2: I think eleven gets you in twelve. I think your

219
00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,840
Speaker 2: your certainty, but you're gonna have to win, in my opinion,

220
00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,719
Speaker 2: three of your last four games to get in, and

221
00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,360
Speaker 2: hopefully that's good enough.

222
00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, you know, obviously twelve. I'll stick with

223
00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:02,599
Speaker 3: my preseason prediction. I don't necessarily feel confident about.

224
00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,800
Speaker 2: It this week. I'll tell you what, if they win

225
00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,640
Speaker 2: twelve games, that means they have won five straight going

226
00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,000
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. And how great of a position is

227
00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,280
Speaker 2: that going to be for this football team?

228
00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a ton of momentum going in. They

229
00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,280
Speaker 3: had it last year too, and that didn't necessarily help him.

230
00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,280
Speaker 3: But I think that defense was so banged up last

231
00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,600
Speaker 3: year and it is again.

232
00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,960
Speaker 4: But if Kirby.

233
00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,680
Speaker 3: Joseph can come back, you know, crazier things have happened,

234
00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,920
Speaker 3: But they just got to get in and they'll have

235
00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,080
Speaker 3: an opportunity to play their way in over the next month.

236
00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,160
Speaker 2: Ask the New York Giants about just getting in. What

237
00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,800
Speaker 2: that can do? You know, you just got to be

238
00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,720
Speaker 2: the wild card. Get in there. And we've seen teams

239
00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,920
Speaker 2: go before on the road and make runs. All right,

240
00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,640
Speaker 2: what's the biggest key to Larry Lage for the Detroit

241
00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,840
Speaker 2: Lions to win Sunday in La.

242
00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,720
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, they have to slow him down, bring him

243
00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,280
Speaker 3: somewhere close to earth. He has thirty five touchdowns, four interceptions,

244
00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,200
Speaker 3: having an MVP like season, maybe the best season of

245
00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,200
Speaker 3: his career, and anyone listening or watching this has seen

246
00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,520
Speaker 3: him play a lot of great games, including me. And

247
00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,360
Speaker 3: with a shorthanded secondary, that's gonna be tough. I think

248
00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,720
Speaker 3: the big key for the Lions is to generate pressure

249
00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,160
Speaker 3: like they did last week. They have to get home.

250
00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,280
Speaker 3: They have to affect Stafford pressures and sacks. You know,

251
00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,280
Speaker 3: they've got to flush him out of the pocket and

252
00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,880
Speaker 3: you know, maybe get one of his gun slinger heaves

253
00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,600
Speaker 3: that Kirby Joseph picks off over the deep middle.

254
00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,520
Speaker 4: I can see it.

255
00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,920
Speaker 2: Now, so it's manifesting it.

256
00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,760
Speaker 3: I'll enjoy watching from home in an arbor, and I'll

257
00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,960
Speaker 3: be reading your coverage later in the evening.

258
00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,480
Speaker 2: No, I think it's a good point by you. The

259
00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,040
Speaker 2: pressure is gonna be key, and the pressure is then

260
00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,320
Speaker 2: limiting the big plays, and I think that's gonna be

261
00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,840
Speaker 2: a big one in this one. Detroit Lions have given

262
00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,719
Speaker 2: up forty seven completions of twenty plus yards. That's the

263
00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,080
Speaker 2: most in the NFL. Well there, I guess which team

264
00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,200
Speaker 2: has the most twenty yard completions in the NFL. Yeah,

265
00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,000
Speaker 2: with fifty. So look now Detroit's got forty seven too

266
00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,079
Speaker 2: under offensively. So I think it's two teams that are

267
00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:10,720
Speaker 2: really explosive generating those big plays in the passing game,

268
00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,560
Speaker 2: and who can do it more because I think both

269
00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,240
Speaker 2: teams are. I think it's going to be a little

270
00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,319
Speaker 2: bit harder for both teams to run the football. I

271
00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,720
Speaker 2: think both teams and both defenses know that that's where

272
00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,280
Speaker 2: it starts. With both teams with the rams and some

273
00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,960
Speaker 2: of their twelve and thirteen personnel that they're doing now too,

274
00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,360
Speaker 2: and that Blake Korum from Michigan had one hundred yards

275
00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,720
Speaker 2: last week. They have a nice combo there. Obviously we

276
00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,920
Speaker 2: know Detroit's got a nice combo. I think both defenses

277
00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,280
Speaker 2: going to that game saying, look, you're gonna have to

278
00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,520
Speaker 2: earn it in the pass game. We're not going to

279
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,760
Speaker 2: let you run the football, set up the play action.

280
00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,400
Speaker 2: That's going to be the focus. Now, which team can

281
00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,160
Speaker 2: hit more of those big plays in the passing game.

282
00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,040
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be a big difference. Yeah.

283
00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,719
Speaker 3: I think my second key would be the offense possessing

284
00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,920
Speaker 3: the ball and keeping Stafford and company off the field.

285
00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,000
Speaker 3: Extending drives. Third down conversions hasn't been a strength this year.

286
00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,840
Speaker 3: Needs to be a Sunday afternoon all right.

287
00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,319
Speaker 2: Last one, the matchup you're looking forward to the most.

288
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,920
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Stafford against the secondary. I

289
00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,520
Speaker 3: think that's where it's gonna come down. And this banged up,

290
00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,680
Speaker 3: shorthanded secondary has been pretty solid this year, but they're

291
00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,120
Speaker 3: gonna have to be spectacular, just low down Stafford, who

292
00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,960
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, is having an MVP like season and

293
00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,760
Speaker 3: has really good options in the passing game. So I

294
00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,360
Speaker 3: think that's what it's gonna come down to. And it's

295
00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,520
Speaker 3: gonna be fun to watch. I'm not playing or coordinating

296
00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,960
Speaker 3: or anything, so I get to just enjoy it. Should

297
00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,800
Speaker 3: be a good one. And you know, as you mentioned,

298
00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,240
Speaker 3: December is what you remember, and there are a lot

299
00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,720
Speaker 3: of Lions fans that have been following this team that

300
00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,560
Speaker 3: never experienced Decembers like this, and now this is three

301
00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,560
Speaker 3: or four in a row. When you consider when this

302
00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,240
Speaker 3: run started, which I believe is a twenty twenty two season,

303
00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,160
Speaker 3: when they close and we're playing for a lot and

304
00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,120
Speaker 3: ended Aaron Rodgers' career. I mean, you think back to

305
00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,840
Speaker 3: that and what this team teams record is, it's pretty impressive.

306
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,400
Speaker 3: And I think the Lions are the most popular team

307
00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,200
Speaker 3: in this sports crazed state and it's been pretty good

308
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,280
Speaker 3: for Lions fans. But obviously the bar is high, and

309
00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,440
Speaker 3: they've got to get in the playoffs.

310
00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,880
Speaker 2: To get in the playoffs, according to you, they got

311
00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,040
Speaker 2: to win twelve games to do it, so that starts

312
00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,240
Speaker 2: this week. They got to get it done in LA.

313
00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,040
Speaker 3: You don't want to be sitting at eleven saying we

314
00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,920
Speaker 3: should get in, kind of like Notre Dame and the.

315
00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,400
Speaker 2: College football playoffs, right, So.

316
00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,880
Speaker 4: That's that's their best bet for sure.

317
00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, Lays, you've been around for a long time. Appreciate

318
00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,600
Speaker 2: you taking the time. I think it's first time on

319
00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,000
Speaker 2: the podcast. It won't be the last. I appreciate you.

320
00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,480
Speaker 5: All right, thank you, Welcome back to this one podcast

321
00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,760
Speaker 5: present of my microsoft Jack Campbell, linebacker, number one player

322
00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,000
Speaker 5: on the Pro Bowl voting right now for inside linebackers.

323
00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:54,640
Speaker 4: Just when you.

324
00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,720
Speaker 2: See that stuff, like, I know you're focused on the

325
00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,160
Speaker 2: last four games in the football season, but when you

326
00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,160
Speaker 2: see something like that, just that that that you get

327
00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,080
Speaker 2: that fan vote that you're the leading inside linebacker for

328
00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,000
Speaker 2: the Pro Board. Now what would what would that mean?

329
00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I really do appreciate it, and it's

330
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,680
Speaker 6: like it's just very humbling to hear. I don't know

331
00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,680
Speaker 6: when you when you play football, and I guess when

332
00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,000
Speaker 6: I came into the NFL, came from Iowa. I guess

333
00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,000
Speaker 6: everything you kind of just think about is like the team.

334
00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,720
Speaker 6: So then like when these individual things start to come out,

335
00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,160
Speaker 6: and I dealt with that in college too, Like I won,

336
00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,680
Speaker 6: there was a couple of things that I won, but

337
00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,440
Speaker 6: like yeah, like so like just stuff like that, so

338
00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,720
Speaker 6: like just really focus on what really matters, and that's

339
00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,720
Speaker 6: like just you gotta play good each week to be

340
00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,600
Speaker 6: able to put yourself in position to do that.

341
00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,640
Speaker 4: So that's what I kind of focused on. But it's

342
00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,560
Speaker 4: just very humbling, and.

343
00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,720
Speaker 6: I feel like like the Lord's provided for me every

344
00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,360
Speaker 6: single step of the way. And I feel like my

345
00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,520
Speaker 6: family and my my wife obviously have been so huge

346
00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,480
Speaker 6: for me just every single week, just pushing me to

347
00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,880
Speaker 6: be better. And yeah, I would say that, and I

348
00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,640
Speaker 6: feel like also I'm just I guess like when I

349
00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,680
Speaker 6: got here, just like taking steps for improvement, and I

350
00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,200
Speaker 6: feel like that's what I've been doing.

351
00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,520
Speaker 4: I just need to continue to do that.

352
00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,600
Speaker 2: So where do you think you've taken that biggest leap?

353
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,400
Speaker 6: I would say just like playing like kind of like

354
00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,639
Speaker 6: just going out there and playing and not trying to

355
00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,240
Speaker 6: like be perfect on everything. That's what I really I

356
00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,240
Speaker 6: feel like I'm just stepping out there and I'm just

357
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,000
Speaker 6: like letting instincts go.

358
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,800
Speaker 4: Now, like I'm not worried.

359
00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,280
Speaker 6: About all I got to do this, this this ron,

360
00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,080
Speaker 6: doing this, this past, doing this, this on this bootz,

361
00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,480
Speaker 6: I got to read all this and like, nah, I

362
00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,320
Speaker 6: just am going and uh playing fast.

363
00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,240
Speaker 4: But I'm I mean, I'm I'm studying.

364
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,159
Speaker 6: And trying to be smart about it, but at the

365
00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,399
Speaker 6: same time like just going and playing and like with

366
00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,160
Speaker 6: the flow of the game.

367
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,000
Speaker 2: So you're taking the good with the bad.

368
00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

369
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,760
Speaker 2: Right, I've heard this about you, just that that sometimes

370
00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,800
Speaker 2: you know, like you're super focused on ways you can improve,

371
00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,520
Speaker 2: but you gotta sometimes take a look at some of

372
00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,560
Speaker 2: the good stuff too, right, Jack, And you know, be

373
00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,320
Speaker 2: proud of of kind of some of the things.

374
00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:58,640
Speaker 4: That you're doing.

375
00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt and I've feel like that's like a

376
00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,800
Speaker 6: step I feel like I've taken this year is like

377
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 6: after games, not just like looking at all the plays

378
00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,120
Speaker 6: that I could have been better, but also like looking

379
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,560
Speaker 6: at some plays where like I did, like I did

380
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,879
Speaker 6: my job, I took advantage of an opportunity, like I

381
00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,360
Speaker 6: made a good play, and then just like just reminded

382
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:22,159
Speaker 6: myself like I belong here. And I feel like, just

383
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,680
Speaker 6: keep playing at a high level. And That's what I'm

384
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,320
Speaker 6: trying to do. And I feel like also just trying

385
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,480
Speaker 6: to like show people that like it doesn't matter, like

386
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,720
Speaker 6: I guess where you're, like you come from, and like

387
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,760
Speaker 6: how many offers you have out of high school, Like

388
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,920
Speaker 6: you just stick to it and stick to the process

389
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,159
Speaker 6: and do all these little things right and it just

390
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,440
Speaker 6: adds up. And I guess that's what I'm most proud

391
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 6: of too, is that a lot of people said that

392
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,840
Speaker 6: I couldn't do a lot of things, so just like

393
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 6: keep going.

394
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 2: I guess I know one thing I appreciate about you,

395
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you're proud of to is the salute

396
00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,920
Speaker 2: to service. Now, yeah, father, that served. So I'm curious

397
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 2: just what that meant to you. I know, that's that's

398
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 2: a big part of of your life outside of football.

399
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

400
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 6: So I got so many family members in the military.

401
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:18,199
Speaker 6: I got a lot of grandparents, like I got, I

402
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,479
Speaker 6: got step parents, and so I got four parents. So

403
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 6: my stepdad served, my step sister served right now, and

404
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 6: she's in the Air Force. I got my step brother,

405
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,199
Speaker 6: he's serving, he's in the Navy. And then I have

406
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 6: so many uncles, grand Grandpa, yeah, Grandpa's uncles. I can't

407
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 6: even like, I'm not even gonna try to name them

408
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 6: because I miss someone and I know I am, and

409
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 6: I don't want to like leave.

410
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 4: No one out because I'm not. I'm not thinking on

411
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 4: the fire right now.

412
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 6: But yeah, no, I just I feel like I've seen

413
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 6: it firsthand, especially like like my stepbrother stepsister and not

414
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 6: being home on like the holiday or like when I

415
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 6: was in high school, like when I was back home.

416
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 6: So just seeing like all the sacrifices they make being

417
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 6: out of the country, being on a ship for however

418
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,479
Speaker 6: long they are, being away from family, like just all

419
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 6: the sacrifices that they make to just protect us and

420
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 6: give us these allow us to do these things that.

421
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 4: We're doing right now.

422
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 6: So I just feel like anytime that I can get

423
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 6: back to that community, I try to take advantage of it.

424
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 6: And I feel like, also it's just like a great

425
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 6: reminder too, Like in the middle of the season, you

426
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 6: can kind of get tossing and turning and focusing on

427
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 6: this week to that week and this week you don't

428
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 6: even know what day it is, and it's like when

429
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 6: the opportunity comes up, like you can go here, do this,

430
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 6: or you can go meet these people, It's like it's

431
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 6: just a great minder to slow down and be grateful

432
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 6: for what I have. And I feel like, obviously the

433
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 6: Solutive Service Award is a byproduct of that, but like

434
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 6: that's not why people do things.

435
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 4: I feel like you just do it out of the

436
00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 4: goodness your heart.

437
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 2: So who to see you and congratulations and funny one

438
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 2: for sure. All Right, you're getting ready for a huge

439
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 2: game on Sunday with huge playoff division implications. Everything's online

440
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: going into these last four weeks. What jumps out about

441
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: LA when you watch and prepare them on tape.

442
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 6: I mean, they're playing at a super high level. They

443
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 6: got and I'm gonna speak offensively other offense. They have

444
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 6: obviously a quarterback who's been in the league about as

445
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 6: long as I've been alive. Probably I don't even know

446
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,959
Speaker 6: you've been in it for a long time. I remember

447
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 6: growing up little watching him throw to Calvin Johnson.

448
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: He started he was drafted here when I started covering

449
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: the team, and so that was seventeen years ago, so

450
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: he's been around lone. There's nothing you guys.

451
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 4: Are going to do covering exactly.

452
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 6: So we're playing one of the most experienced quarterbacks in

453
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 6: the NFL. I feel like he's playing like him in

454
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 6: the pocket.

455
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 4: He's unbelievable, So I'll give him.

456
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 6: Credit there too, like his ability to put balls on strings,

457
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 6: the no looks, stuff like, So we're gonna have our

458
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 6: hands full.

459
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 4: And then you add in.

460
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 6: I feel like their offenseive line does a good job

461
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 6: and and they execute at a high level within their scheme.

462
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 6: And I got a lot of respect for both their backs.

463
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 4: The same thing that they operate at a high level.

464
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 6: They're hard runners, they're always falling forward, they're always fine

465
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 6: for extra yards. And then you get to the receivers

466
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 6: and the tight ends. And I'll start the receiver. The

467
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 6: receivers you got to arguable, arguably, yeah, two number ones

468
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 6: on one team. And then I feel like the other

469
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 6: guys that that fill in there do a really good

470
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 6: job at what they do. So just in like the

471
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 6: slot and just went in there one on ones because

472
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 6: you know people are gonna double the twelve and seventeen,

473
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 6: so when they get a one on one, they like

474
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 6: to win. And then the quarterback puts the ball in

475
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 6: a perfect place. And then the tight ends. I feel

476
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 6: like the tight ends do a good job. Their big bodies,

477
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 6: they're long. They got the young guy, I feel like

478
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 6: he's more of the receiver shifty, and then they got

479
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 6: eighty four and eighty seven, and I feel like they

480
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 6: both do just a good job. And the quarterback really

481
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 6: trusts all those guys and that's like his safe I

482
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 6: feel like his safety valve.

483
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: So it's why they play a lot of thirteen personnel

484
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: ya too, because they trust those guys to be on

485
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: the field and they could run different stuff out of

486
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: the pass or.

487
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 6: Run exactly and that's I feel like that like that's

488
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 6: a thing when you get into thirteen personnel, I feel

489
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 6: like it kind of a shrinks the playshoot on the

490
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 6: as a defender, so they kind of can dictate kind

491
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 6: of what you're in. So that will be something that's

492
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 6: interesting to see how they try to attack us this week. Yeah, yeah,

493
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 6: I mean, hats off to then. They're just all playing

494
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 6: at a high level and I can't give them enough credit. Obviously.

495
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 4: They're head coach, the offensive guy, and he does a

496
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 4: good job as all.

497
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 2: So I know you've got meetings come up, just a

498
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: couple more for it. Look, you guys are fifteen and

499
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: two last year, right, I mean you had already clinched

500
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 2: the playoff spot at this point. It was the division

501
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: was still you know, you still had some things to

502
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: play for, but you knew you were headed to the

503
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: playoffs and you were gonna play January football. Sitting at

504
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: eight and five certainly different situation. You still control your

505
00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 2: own destiny. But Jack, we've heard the word urgent and

506
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: see around here over the last week. Can can a

507
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: team be dangerous sometimes when when they're eight and five

508
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: and you guys got to play good football to end

509
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 2: the year to get into the playoffs and if you do,

510
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: you know you're playing good football. Can a team like this,

511
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: with so much on the line and having to win,

512
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: can it ultimately be a dangerous football team?

513
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 6: I feel like you can anything. Can happen when you

514
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 6: put your mind to it. And I feel like you

515
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 6: got to get right hot at the right time, And

516
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 6: I feel like we'll see where these next few weeks trend.

517
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 6: But I feel like we're kind of on the uptick,

518
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 6: so just need to continue to improve. But anything's possible,

519
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 6: and I feel like I'm really excited, and I'm really

520
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 6: excited about the group we have in the locker room

521
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 6: because we have the right guys.

522
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: There's not one guy that's ever going to give up.

523
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 6: So when you got that going for you, you got

524
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 6: the organization and all the coaches that believe in you

525
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 6: and put together really good plans. Like anything's possible. So

526
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 6: I always got to take it one game at a

527
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 6: time and see where it takes us. But I will

528
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 6: say getting getting hot at the right time is huge,

529
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 6: especially having that when I'm going into playoffs, it'll be huge.

530
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 6: So you just need to continue to win games and

531
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 6: take it one game at time. And the Rams are

532
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 6: the first, the first team I guess on that journey.

533
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: Punch the ball out you become. That's kind of been

534
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: one of your things. And when did the emphasis I mean,

535
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: creating turnovers has always been a big emphasis but you

536
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: really seem to be attacking the football more than you

537
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: ever have. Was that just a point of emphasis this offseason?

538
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: Was it something that that kind of schep brought up

539
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: to you? Where did that come from? Because you were

540
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: really attacking the football.

541
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 6: I feel like I've really been just developing it ever

542
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 6: since I got here, So my rookie year, it's been

543
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 6: like three my third year. So yeah, two and a half,

544
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 6: three years in the in the working, and I mean

545
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 6: it's it's starting to pay off a little bit.

546
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: I'd like to get some more. But yeah, I just

547
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 4: would like you to get some more.

548
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 6: It's really just it's all a timing thing and you

549
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 6: got to like be smart about when you do it

550
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 6: because sometimes if you go for the ball, it can

551
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 6: allow like mistackle or like and you can't really have that,

552
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 6: so just like being smart and I don't know, it's

553
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 6: just like I can't even explain it to you.

554
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 7: It's like tackling and exactly it's like when it happens,

555
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 7: it's like slow motion, like you just see the ball

556
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 7: and like you see when the space is created, and

557
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 7: like just like the trying to like I've been really trying,

558
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 7: like and this is like three years and this is

559
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 7: just like bro, ask anybody, Like I've.

560
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 6: Pumped so many people, just like the stomach I've missed

561
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 6: so many times. So like just having that like being

562
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 6: able to like sit and put it right on the ball,

563
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 6: like when everything's happening like that, Like I feel like

564
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 6: it's something that I've really worked on and it's showing up.

565
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 6: So I seem to continue to do that, continue to

566
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 6: hump the ball, but do it at the right times

567
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 6: and take advantage of the opportunities.

568
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: Or anything like that. No, not really, maybe I should

569
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 4: get into that.

570
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: And last one, obviously it's Christmas time, you know, it's

571
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: this spirit of giving. Yeah, do you think you owe

572
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: me Robert and something?

573
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: That's a great idea. What do you think I should?

574
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I have been up there. You've

575
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: hit him pretty and then look, it's a violent game,

576
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: a violent and it just seems to me that like

577
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: a Meek, it's the one guy that's in the bad.

578
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 6: That's a great idea. Okay, I'm gonna get him a

579
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 6: Christmas gift now.

580
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: I think I think there has to be and it

581
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: just has a bowl and it's just sorry for the violence.

582
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: And that's all, it's got to be just something small

583
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: because that guy's for his size, no doubt.

584
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I can't say enough good things about that guy.

585
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 6: He just comes to work every single day, compete, and

586
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 6: I just have so much respect for him and and

587
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 6: all the secondary that's done.

588
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: Just such a good job.

589
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: He's great at punching that ball out.

590
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

591
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you two together, but you you you've he's gotten

592
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: in the way of you a couple of times.

593
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get him something good too. It can't be nothing.

594
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 6: I gotta get him something good.

595
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: All right, we will update everybody. What what did Jack

596
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: Campbell to meet robertson Presidents? But hey, you're playing great

597
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: football right now and you can need another one on Sunday,

598
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: good UK against the Rams.

599
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 4: Thank you so, I appreciate you. I appreciate it.

600
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Twin in the Huddle podcast. Very

601
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 2: happy to welcome in. Jordan Rodrigue does a great job

602
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: as the senior NFL writer for the Athletic but she's

603
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: kind of my go to for the Rams too. She's

604
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: got a pulse on the Rams and the entire league. Jordan,

605
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: how you doing. Thanks for joining me.

606
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 8: As always, I'm great thanks for having me.

607
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 9: I I was telling you I was gonna my feelings

608
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 9: were going to be hurt if you didn't bring me

609
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 9: back on for Rams week, because this is our tradition

610
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 9: at this point.

611
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Yes, this is starting to become a tradition, going from

612
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs in twenty three to Week one and now Jordan,

613
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: we've got another big one here in week What are

614
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: we at Week fifteen? Now, I'm just curious from your

615
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: perspective and talking with the players and coaches them in LA.

616
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: Some of the Lines players and including Jared Goffer, said

617
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: this week that this is a measuring stick game for us,

618
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: the aid the number one seed. You know, we're not

619
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: where we were last year. We are are battling. We've

620
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: got a fight to get into the playoffs.

621
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 9: Now.

622
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Detroit still controls their own playoff destiny and their destiny

623
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: in the division, but they're viewing this as a measuring

624
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: stick game, having to go to LA and play a

625
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: RAMS team that's playing really, really well. I'm curious what

626
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: if the Rams players and coaches said from their perspective

627
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: of this matchup.

628
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, they know how well coached and

629
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 9: you know, well thought out the game plan will be

630
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 9: for the Lions. They know how they know this team, right,

631
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 9: you see that maybe different versions of it over the

632
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 9: last couple of years, but this is a team where

633
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 9: the players and the coaches, they are very familiar with

634
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 9: each other. This is one of the most important games

635
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 9: I think for both teams all year, regardless of whether

636
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 9: or not there are playoff stakes, and certainly for both

637
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 9: teams there are. And obviously, as you know, the Rams

638
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 9: can clinch a playoff spot if they win this week,

639
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 9: so all of those things are are significant. But they

640
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 9: know that any given time you play the Lions, you're

641
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 9: going to get a really physical game, You're gonna get

642
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 9: a really thoughtful, thoughtfully planned game, and you're gonna get

643
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 9: a battle in all three phases, and I think vice versa.

644
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 9: The Rams are a team that are a lot more complete,

645
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 9: perhaps than they have been in previous seasons. They were

646
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 9: in a rebuild in twenty three when they sort of

647
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 9: magically got into the wild card and I think gave

648
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 9: the Lions everything they had in that building. That was

649
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 9: so much fun to be there covering that, And then

650
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 9: again the following season when they were a little bit

651
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 9: more complete, and then another version of this Rams scene. Now,

652
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 9: this is a Rams team that's got its eyes set

653
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 9: on the Super Bowl, but they certainly know that they're

654
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 9: gonna get everything that the Lions got physically and mentally.

655
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: If the Rams are gonna get to the super Bowl,

656
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna need to get continued terrific play from Matthew

657
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: Stafford Lions fans. I obviously know Matthew very very well,

658
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: but are you surprised at all, Jordan that this season

659
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: he's having, at thirty seven years old, I mean, thirty

660
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: five touchdowns leads the NFL. I think it's it's leading

661
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: by nine touchdowns. He's only got four picks and he's

662
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: playing really great football right now. Is he the MVP

663
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: in your book?

664
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 8: Oh?

665
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I'm biased, but yeah, yeah. And you

666
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 9: know what, Tim, it's so funny. You could probably tell me.

667
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 9: Matthew could probably tell me that he had just sprouted

668
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 9: a pair of wings in his back and he's gonna

669
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 9: fly to Mars and it still would not surprise me

670
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 9: at this point, because really, nothing this.

671
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 8: Guy does should shock any of us.

672
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 9: I think the thing that might have been the best

673
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 9: thing that could have ever happened to him ahead of

674
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 9: this year, you know, your aches and pains, and you're

675
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 9: in your you know, late late thirties, and you're thinking about,

676
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 9: you know, your career and your legacy, and you're on

677
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 9: a year to year deal essentially with the Rams at

678
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 9: this point, and then your back goes out, right. And

679
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 9: what Matthew told me is that he had time to

680
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 9: miss it, like he had a chance to miss football

681
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 9: because he missed so much of training camp. And my

682
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 9: point to that being, you know, Sean mcfay used to

683
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 9: joke that, like to really get the soul stealer out

684
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 9: of Matthew Stafford, to really get that like sort of

685
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 9: killer out of him, he would joke he'd like he

686
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 9: needs to take a big hit, or maybe I should

687
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 9: un him in the stomach at halftime, or you know,

688
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 9: like let's play Jimmy Garoppolo in Week eighteen and get

689
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 9: him really pissed off before the playoffs, right, And like

690
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 9: it's it's tongue in cheek, but really it Matthew, there's

691
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 9: another level to him that I think he can access

692
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 9: really well. Now it's sustained the entire season, which is

693
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 9: something that you know, you guys have seen it for

694
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 9: you had seen.

695
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 8: It for years.

696
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 9: I think Rams fans are reminded of twenty twenty one

697
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 9: playoff Matthew Stafford or start to season Matthew Stafford, except

698
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 9: this guy has not left the building. This guy has

699
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 9: been there all season long at this point, and yes,

700
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 9: I do think he is the MVP.

701
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: Has what difference has Blake Korum kind of taken a

702
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: little bit more of the load off Williams and then

703
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: obviously Devonte Adams? What are those those two guys especially

704
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: meant to that offense into Matthew.

705
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's huge.

706
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 9: It gives the Rams another layer that I think has

707
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 9: been an unexpected matchup for teams or something that is

708
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 9: a little bit less scouted than in previous seasons with

709
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 9: what Sean McVay has liked to do with two sort

710
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 9: of f type receivers where they can play tight end,

711
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 9: they could play receiver. Technically they're in the receiver position

712
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 9: group listing on the roster, but they're doing everything and

713
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 9: they're interchangeable in that way.

714
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 8: Well, now you've.

715
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 9: Got a player in Devonte Adams who is a true

716
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 9: red zone threat who kind of reminds the Rams of

717
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 9: what they were able to do with Odell Beckham junior

718
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 9: that one game against the San Francisco forty nine ers

719
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 9: when everybody was at full cylinders, and then the first

720
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 9: half of that Super Bowl against the Bengals and then

721
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 9: poor O'Dell's knee went out.

722
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 8: But it's similar to that.

723
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 9: It's getting leverages and different coverages tilted in different directions

724
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 9: to either free up Puka Akua or to free up

725
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 9: Davonte Adams. And it's kind of a similar thought process

726
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 9: with Blake Koram. You know, I feel like I it's

727
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 9: a broken record hearing Sean McVay over the last several

728
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 9: years saying we're gonna play both running backs, We're gonna

729
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 9: play two running backs, We're gonna get two running backs

730
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 9: into the equation.

731
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 8: Well, now they're finally doing it.

732
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 9: And with Blake Korum, it just gives defense as a

733
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 9: different type of player to think about. I know they

734
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 9: see very similar, but Blake Coorum has a little bit

735
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 9: of second level burst.

736
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 8: That's just a little bit different than Kyen.

737
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 9: Kyen will always hit you doubles and get you touchdowns.

738
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 9: Blake Korum might be able to turn on that extra

739
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 9: gear if he gets past the first layer of layer

740
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 9: of a defense. And you saw it with some of

741
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 9: the explosive runs that he had against the Cardinals, and

742
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 9: it's a change up pitch that this offense had kind

743
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 9: of been lacking prior. And so that's part of why

744
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 9: I say it's one of the most complete teams I've

745
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 9: ever seen, because they have the main scheme right, and

746
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 9: then they've got different layers.

747
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 8: And permutations built into.

748
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 9: What I think everybody had typically come to know as

749
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 9: the McVeigh system. Now it's very different, but it's also

750
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 9: quite the same. It's just all of it at once.

751
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 9: It's all different versions of McVeigh. It's all coming out

752
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 9: in this season.

753
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of those kind of new wrinkles Jordan has

754
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: been the thirteen personnel that they've been featuring. I think

755
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: it was about sixty percent last week. They started it

756
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: kind of week six against Baltimore. They've built it in.

757
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: McVeigh talk this week about how fun that's been kind

758
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: of created and developing that on the fly of a season.

759
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 2: But it takes a ton of versatility to do something

760
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: like that. What is why has has McVeigh really liked

761
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: that personnel grouping? What does it give in this offense

762
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: that that maybe they like and gives defenses problems to scout.

763
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, first of all, I'm annoyed because finally I've

764
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 9: been screaming about this for years and I leave the

765
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 9: beat and finally they do it right.

766
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 8: So it's like, come on, guys, really no.

767
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 9: But it's great because what it what it is is

768
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 9: he can he can mess with the different mathematical equations

769
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 9: defense has tried to build against them. So obviously, when

770
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 9: they're an eleven personnel, defenses are going to be in

771
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 9: a smaller version of nickel because they need to be

772
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 9: fast enough to match up with their receivers. Well, when

773
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 9: you play more tight ends, as you know very well, tim,

774
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 9: then you have to start getting a little bit bigger

775
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 9: on defense, and you have to try to figure out

776
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 9: which type of player, whether it's a very very fast

777
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 9: they hope linebacker tight ends, probably still faster than most

778
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 9: inside linebackers, or you have a big safety that you're

779
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 9: pulling down into sort of your hybrid slot corner position

780
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 9: to try to defend those players. Okay, well, what do

781
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 9: you do if that starts to work against you? You

782
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 9: go right back to eleven personnel and in this case

783
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 9: with thirteen personnel and eleven personnel for the viewers and listeners.

784
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 8: The one common denominator.

785
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 9: Is it is three potential pass catchers on the field

786
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 9: at any given time. So if you look at the

787
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 9: route combinations that they run when they are an eleven personnel,

788
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 9: they basically match a lot of those things right into

789
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 9: their thirteen personal packages because they have pass catching tight ends.

790
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 9: They have guys who can catch the ball and run

791
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 9: routes like receivers for the most part, Colby Parkinson might

792
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 9: want a word, but for the most part, they can

793
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 9: do these things. So you skip right over two tight

794
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 9: ends to twelve personnel and go right from eleven to

795
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 9: thirteen because you're not changing your playbook. You're just changing

796
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 9: the size and ability of the bodies on the field,

797
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 9: and it keeps things very simple and fast for the

798
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 9: offense while still adding hillacious layer for the defense.

799
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 8: It's very hard to defend.

800
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, very hard to defend. Detroit will have to do

801
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: it without Brian Branch, one of their most versatile defenders

802
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: in the back end. But Jordan, the Lions do play

803
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: the most base defense of any team in the league.

804
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: They like the way they get those three linebackers on

805
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: how they can cover, So I think that'll be an

806
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: interesting dynamic Sunday is how much LA thinks they they

807
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: can do it and how Detroit decides to stop it.

808
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: Our injury wise with the Rams, are they looking pretty

809
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: good heading into into Sunday.

810
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, the same guys who have been hurt are still hurt.

811
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 9: So no, Rob Havenstein war Mclendon's been playing pretty well.

812
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 9: I am very fascinated because Aiden Hutchinson lines up, as

813
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 9: you guys see every week on both sides and on

814
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 9: third down he loads up over the right tackle a lot.

815
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 8: War McLendon is playing right tackle.

816
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 9: He is very young, but playing very well in replacement

817
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 9: for him right now, I think only giving up four

818
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 9: pressures so far in six games, So that's going to

819
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 9: be a real hinge point, I think in terms of

820
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 9: getting some of those those pass plays developed, and so

821
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 9: that's an injury to watch, but it's kind of been

822
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 9: They've they've gotten him repped in a little bit for

823
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 9: Rob so far this season.

824
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 8: Tyler Higbee obviously know to to out well, is going

825
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 8: to be back activated.

826
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 9: So that's to me, that's some gamesmanship, right because we

827
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 9: talk about those three great linebackers and we talk about

828
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 9: how versatile Detroit can be. And by the way, I'm

829
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 9: a huge fan of what Kelvin Shepherd has done this year.

830
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 9: I think it is one of the best jobs in

831
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 9: coaching all season. I hope he is getting talked about

832
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 9: in these league cycles as they come up, and he

833
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 9: deserves it. And it is fascinating because when you say publicly, hey,

834
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 9: we're gonna get to to out well our speed thread,

835
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 9: our deep threat guy activated, what do you think, Oh

836
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 9: my god, where are my fast Nichols? You know, like,

837
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 9: where where are those guys? So I think it's a

838
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 9: little gamesmanship as well. But at the same time, that

839
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 9: is that is definitely someone to watch this week. Otherwise,

840
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 9: you know, the same guys that have been out are

841
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 9: still out and DeVante Adams will be.

842
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 8: On the injury report this week, but he should be

843
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 8: good to go.

844
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

845
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: I want to ask you this one too, is is

846
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: you've got a pulse around everything NFL wise. I'm curious.

847
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: You looked a couple of years ago, the Lions were

848
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: twelve and five and at this point had looked like,

849
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: you know, they had pretty much wrapped it up. They

850
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: were still fighting for a division with Minnesota. Last year

851
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: they win fifteen games. They knew they were in the

852
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: playoffs at this point, it's just kind of where it

853
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: was gonna be. Now you sit at eight and five

854
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: and you've got to fight and you've got to claw

855
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: your way in. Now they control their own destiny, but

856
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: they've got to win games and they know it. Can

857
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: sometimes that be a dangerous point. Can that be a

858
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: good thing for a team sometimes? Jordan, especially a Dan

859
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: Campbell led team with the grit and everything else, that

860
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 2: they know they've got to play their best football heading

861
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: into the playoffs to get into the playoffs, and teams

862
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: always talk about, you know, we want to be playing

863
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 2: our best football in December and January. Well, Detroit's got

864
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: to do it or they're gonna be sitting home in January.

865
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: So if they're in the playoffs in January, can that

866
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: be something you know that's galvanizing for this team, knowing

867
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: that they had to win games and they're playing pretty

868
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: good football heading into a playoffs where they haven't had

869
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: a lot of success the last couple of years, just

870
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: in terms of you know, obviously the loss in the

871
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: second half in the NFC Champions Champ of twenty three

872
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: and then the upset last year to Washington. A little

873
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: different setup could be a good thing for Detroit.

874
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 8: Yeah.

875
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 9: I love that question because I feel like there are

876
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 9: two types of resilience for teams, and one type we've

877
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 9: seen it demonstrated by the entire Lions organization, which is

878
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 9: getting good from being bad.

879
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 8: Right.

880
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 9: Okay, So they got good and they scratched, bit kneecaps

881
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 9: and clawed their way to getting good. Right, Okay, So

882
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 9: now they're a good football team. They're a great organization

883
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 9: and a really really good football team. So there's the

884
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 9: other type of resilience, which is staying good when bad

885
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 9: stuff happens to you, right, And so I think that's

886
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 9: it is. It is uncanny in some ways because it

887
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 9: does remind me a little bit of that twenty twenty

888
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 9: one RAM Super Bowl team. I think a lot of

889
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 9: people see the confetti falling from the ceiling and they

890
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 9: forgot how terrible they were in November and how many

891
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 9: injuries they endured, and how they had to overhaul their

892
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 9: entire run system just for that month only in order

893
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 9: to kind of limp into the postseason and then start

894
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 9: putting those wins together. I can tell you this, No

895
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 9: NFL team wants to play the Lions in the postseason.

896
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 9: Not only because, like I said, they are good at

897
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 9: this point, this is the new Detroit Lions, and they

898
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 9: are physical and they are a tough matchup team regardless

899
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 9: of what the regular season look like. And so it

900
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 9: really is about how do you put enough pieces together

901
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 9: to finish this season strong, but also to build resilience

902
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 9: along the way so you can play true matchup football

903
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 9: and kind of, I guess, play a little freer because

904
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 9: maybe if the weight of expectations are off of you

905
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 9: a little bit because all of its house money, once

906
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 9: you get to the playoffs, then there's a vibe, there's

907
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 9: an energy, and I do think once the Lions got

908
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 9: as good as they are, man, everybody's waiting on them, right,

909
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 9: everybody's waiting. Everybody's got their breath held, like, Okay, this

910
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 9: is the year, this is the year. Well what if

911
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 9: the year you don't expect it to be the year

912
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 9: becomes the year? It's because you make it that way.

913
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 9: And that's where I think this could be a little

914
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 9: bit of a maybe a more freeing experience and a

915
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 9: run to the playoffs with them.

916
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 8: Certainly it'll teach them a lot.

917
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: Well, that run is it's an important stop in La

918
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: on Sunday. If they are going to run themselves to

919
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: the playoffs, it should be a great game. I myself

920
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: am excited about seventy degrees mean that we just had

921
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: six inches of snow and ice here in Detroit. I

922
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: think everybody's excited about getting to California for a couple

923
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: of days. But it's going to be a great football game. Jordan,

924
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: and I appreciate you take the time. As always. Jordan

925
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: does a great job catch all her stuff on the athletics.

926
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: She's the senior writer for the NFL, and she knows

927
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: a little bit about the rams too, so you can

928
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: catch her if both of your things are your fancy.

929
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: So Jordan, I appreciate you taking the time as always.

930
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: We will see you Sunday and have.

931
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 4: A good week.

932
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 8: Thanks. Tim really appreciate it. Always such a pleasure.