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Speaker 4: we got to show you got something to drink, right yo.

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Speaker 4: Ain't no water, so boom, first thing, who you think,

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Speaker 4: drink all the water?

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Speaker 1: Real, drink all the water. I'm thirsty mm hm.

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Speaker 4: And she going out of town. So that means she

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Speaker 4: down there, ain't no water refrigerator. So what I'm supposed

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Speaker 4: Hold on, you would listen. She lucky she here because

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Speaker 1: You don't do that. That's like when you got a

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Speaker 4: Got kids, right, Yeah, and they drink, they drink the

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Speaker 2: You know how this thing work o Cho. Upset at you.

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Speaker 2: I'm upset at you. Yeah you you you know better.

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Speaker 2: You know he needed water in there because he talks,

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Speaker 2: So that's like being in the desert. You know the

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Speaker 1: Good dude, real good dude, but all ill.

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Speaker 2: If I tell you, Grass would turn the cheese o. Joe,

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Speaker 2: tell him what you're gonna do. You're gonna quit every

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, he's gonna be fine again. Context matters where

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Speaker 1: That's all that mattered. That's all I came aut so

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Speaker 2: it's called a news cap.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow breaks down pass excess against the Chiefs and says,

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Speaker 2: I think we're built to beat them. Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 1: Jocks the facts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's three and one against Kansas City. He says

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Speaker 4: They are, they are. I mean what he said is factual.

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Speaker 4: your number right no matter what you do. You don't

433
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 4: see him that often until you get to the playoffs,

434
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 4: But for some reason, when it comes to that chess match,

435
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: you always have the pieces that fit very well, and

436
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 4: it's always a good game when you face that team. Now, again,

437
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 4: the Chiefs have always even though we're three and one,

438
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 4: the Chiefs have the Super Bowls, they have the accolades,

439
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 4: they have the parties. But we just haven't got over

440
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 4: that hump. If we get a healthy Joe Burrow, if

441
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: we get it healthy Joe Burrow this year, it's gonna

442
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 4: get scary come play off time. We already know what's

443
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: gonna happen in the regular season. What we do need

444
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 4: to fix in Cincinnati is we need to fix the

445
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 4: slow start. We have a problem having a slow start

446
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 4: and then picking up as the season goes. If we

447
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: can get a jump on the competition and come out

448
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: the gate, we can come out the gate hot, and

449
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: then after after after goddamn Thanksgiving and just go on

450
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 4: cruise control and just play good football.

451
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be good. I just don't like

452
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: the fact that we start so slow.

453
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 4: We'll start owing two, we'll start on three and got

454
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 4: to crawl and fight our way back into contention. If

455
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 4: if we get a healthy Joe Burrow, you already know

456
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen.

457
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: Is a rap? Oh Joe. You keep saying if if if, if.

458
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 4: If if if if it's healthy. Listen, this this is

459
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 4: a game. Injuries happen. It's part of the game. But

460
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 4: when you lose a quarterback of that magnitude who I

461
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 4: consider to be the second best, first best, it depends

462
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 4: on you.

463
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 2: Ask I plays best, and you can ask anybody right first.

464
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 4: All right, all right, all right, I knew, I know

465
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 4: you gonna get I know you're gonna get little passionate.

466
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.

467
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 4: I know that's my team. You see what Jersey I

468
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 4: got on, right, Yeah, I understand that. But even you

469
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 4: know yeah, okay, all right, second best, Okay, you are

470
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 4: you want the fact? No, okay, cool, second, second, second best.

471
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 4: But even still that's good when the when the thirty

472
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 4: one other quarterbacks in the league.

473
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: But if we get if Joe is healthy, it's up

474
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: and stuff.

475
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: Let me ask your question. You beat the you're built

476
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: to beat Kansas City, and what happened? What happened when

477
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: you don't play Kansas City in the first eight weeks

478
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: of the season and you go down three five like

479
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: you normally do, then.

480
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: What we fight we fighting clawback.

481
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: You're making it a lot more difficult on yourself, exactly, exactly.

482
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: Instead of having all these games on the road, maybe

483
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 2: you get somebody, maybe Buffalo. Now you've gone to Buffalo

484
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: and beaten them. I'm even going to Kansas City. But

485
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: you make your job a little easier difficult, right as

486
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: opposed to like get these games at home. You don't

487
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: have to travel, you get to Steeno, sleep in your

488
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: own bad things of that nature. But the injury is

489
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: the biggest concern because he's been injured more times he's

490
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 2: not finished this even more times than he has finished.

491
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir.

492
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: I mean that's you know what, It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate.

493
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 4: But if anything to me, I like to say this

494
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 4: would be the year he stays injury free.

495
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: I just think it is. And if you're gonna get hurt.

496
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 4: Let's get hurt early in your career, as opposed on

497
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: the back end or opposed in the middle.

498
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: Na. Hey, if I dodn't got me about five or six,

499
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: if you got me about three or four super Bowl,

500
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: I start to get hurt, I can break down because

501
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: I can walk away right now. You don't want to

502
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: be You don't want to be in a situation like

503
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: Andrew Love. See, it's a lot easy to walk away

504
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: from the game when you Tom Brady or Peyton manny,

505
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: because here I am in your twenty two your ateen. Yeah, man,

506
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: look at it. I got as I've gotten super Bowls,

507
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 2: I've gotten all the accolades. But look at a guy

508
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: like Andrew Love. He has to walk away after what

509
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: five six years?

510
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got beat he got beat up badt he

511
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: gotta beat the bad But in Joe Burrow's case, his

512
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 4: injuries had nothing to do with the punishment he was

513
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 4: taking behind center.

514
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: You know the calf, Yeah, Risks, I'm not one.

515
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got sacked in the pocket, he got tweaked

516
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: a certain way.

517
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the thumb.

518
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: Did he hit his thumb on somebody's head? Cause didn't

519
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: he break us?

520
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 4: I'm not sure it was this wrist that was bothering

521
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: risk because I'm not sure how it happened.

522
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: But one one week they.

523
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 4: Saw him wearing a brace, you know, and then played

524
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: in the game he threw and I don't I don't

525
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 4: know what happened.

526
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: But again, I think he's healthy now, he's gonna be

527
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: all right. I'm sure.

528
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: I think might be in the off season program now.

529
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: So I mean they're gonna be fine. I would I

530
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 4: would hope. I hope they get something done with Higgins

531
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 4: because he's deserving, He's he's desert, he's deserving.

532
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: So what you're gonna do, what you gonna do with

533
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: with Jefferson, I mean with a Chase Chase?

534
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know.

535
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: Have you ever been on the team. Have you ever

536
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: been on the team. Have you ever seen a team

537
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: pay two number ones?

538
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: Nah?

539
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: Especially in today's market, what today's market is what it is,

540
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: because Jefferson is gonna Jefferson. First of all, I keep

541
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: saying Jefferson Chase because three of them, it's a just.

542
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: And justin, justin.

543
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: Everybody just wants the first one to see the domino fall.

544
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what everybody's waiting for because I believe

545
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: all the teams really want to do something. But I

546
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: want you to set the market.

547
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: Right and so I can overlap.

548
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: So I overlap.

549
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: We all in the subdivision.

550
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: We all got twenty fifteen thousand square foot home with pool,

551
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: We got theaters, we got a bowling alley, We got

552
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: an eight car garage with fifteen bedrooms, ten bath We

553
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: all got to save houses. I just wait for somebody

554
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: to put their house on the market so I can

555
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: see what the bad is. That's what these guys are doing.

556
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

557
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: No, nobody want to be first, because you already know

558
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: you will be the highest paid receiver for exactly one.

559
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Day, one day. But maybe in the draft, maybe in

560
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: the draft.

561
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: Obviously, t Higgins said all the right things today, he

562
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 4: said all the right things at his camp. You know,

563
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: obviously requested the trade. We all know that he is

564
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: deserving of what it is he wants. His play has

565
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: been magnificent. One of the few teams where I think

566
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: we were fortunate enough to have two number one receivers.

567
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: This is a very very very very deep draft class

568
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: at the receiver position. Yeah, I think maybe, I'm not

569
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: sure what may happen. He might get traded, maybe the draft,

570
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: maybe during the draft, you never know, maybe during the draft.

571
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 4: But again, I love t I would love to see

572
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: him with my Bangals, but also from the business side

573
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 4: of things. He's done for the Bengals organization and that

574
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: team and that city, when he's done for me just

575
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 4: watching him, you know, from Afar, even when he's at Clemson,

576
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: to see him the maturation and the growth that he's

577
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: possessed to this point. He is deserving of that money,

578
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 4: that big money, that kind of money that secures your

579
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: future where you're your mama straight, you know, when you

580
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: have kids, your kids kids straight.

581
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I'm saying.

582
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: I would love to see him stay, but I also

583
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: wanted to get what he deserves, even if it's not

584
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 4: in Cincinnati.

585
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably is probably gonna have to be because

586
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: I mean for him to stay, because I don't I

587
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: don't see a situation with Chase because it's different quarterbacks.

588
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks give a little discount. They always gonna take you

589
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: at a quarterback because they're the first guy that gonna

590
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: come say, you know what, we're gonna take your salary

591
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: and we're gonna turn it into a signing bonus and

592
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna put it in portable years down the straight,

593
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: down the road. So they're always willing. Normally nine times

594
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: out of ten they'll kick the can down the road

595
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: for the quarterback, right, everybody, all the other positions. So

596
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: if I'm a wide receiver, especially that first come. First

597
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: of all, I ain't given nobody no discount.

598
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: No, not the first contract. No no, no, no, absolutely no

599
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: not the.

600
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: First absolutely not, absolutely not. I wouldn't give none anyway

601
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: because because because here's the thing, like Keenan Allen said,

602
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: I had my best year, y'all want me to take

603
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: a pay cut. Yeah, so what happens if I don't

604
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: have my best Oh Joe, you already know they're gonna

605
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: come see me.

606
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you know that. You know that, and

607
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: you're gonna you get that knock on the door. You

608
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: know how, you know how to k not go.

609
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: But I thought, but hold on, I thought I signed

610
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: the contract because that's what they tell you when you

611
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: want to renegotiate.

612
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you signed the contract, didn't you.

613
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: Okay, you signed it to your neighbors up in the mind, right,

614
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: But so now all of a sudden, now it's it's.

615
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Not well, you know, we got to do what's in

616
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: the best in the team. Team.

617
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I made all my money because

618
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: I need to do what in the best interest of

619
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: the Chase family. That's my mom my grandma, granded is

620
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: all the family, that's my team. I didn't do what's

621
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: in the best interests of them. So hopefully guys do

622
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 2: a better job of understanding that, because you know what,

623
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: Baseball players don't really give no deals. You notice that no,

624
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: and they get guaranteed. But show hell Taney seven hundred million,

625
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: he's gonna get all seven hundred million, every dollar and

626
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: they got. And they got Mookie Best on the on

627
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: the payroll that three hundred and sixty five million. They

628
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: got Freddy Preemer, Oh, Freddy from from he from California,

629
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: but he was a brave he's on the payroll for

630
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: buck sixty bucks seventy. Yeah, and they got so many.

631
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: They got the other Japanese picture that they just came over,

632
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: just paid him a boatload of money.

633
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, I already thought about what but well,

634
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: all I got damn money come from man when it

635
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: come to baseball.

636
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: Now get they the same place they got it in football?

637
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: So hold on half the time them stadiums don't even

638
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 1: be filled up.

639
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to understand where that kind of money

640
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: coming from when it comes to baseball.

641
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: They got it in football, but you see what baseball

642
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: players did when they shut it down. There was no playoffs,

643
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: there was no World Series. They was willing to set

644
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: out and the Players Association said, look, we're doing we're

645
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: gearing up for this day. So for the next several years,

646
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: we need you to sell no big purchases, No big purchases, right,

647
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 2: and now we ain't playing pumps.

648
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: But you know, you know it would take to get

649
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: the NFL players that come together like that, it'd be

650
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: very difficult because I mean, there are a lot of

651
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: players you know that that when the off season come,

652
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: they've already run through really all their money, all of it.

653
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: They really run through all their money. And a lot

654
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: of people in the chat you really really don't understand this.

655
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: It's like they can't wait until it gets in the

656
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: season for those checks to start rolling in again. And

657
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: the fact that it doesn't matter of that you're getting

658
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: paid twice is or three or four or five times

659
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: more as opposed to when we was playing. If you're

660
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: making more, you spending more, yeah, spending more.

661
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: It don't change.

662
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's god damn almost like living check the check.

663
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: Even if you're making millions, that ship happens.

664
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: That's why the percentage of us when we're done playing

665
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: within two years huh two years once some checks stopped

666
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 4: rolling in or you ain't got no money.

667
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: Now, I mean, how many how many big? How many

668
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: cuban leaks you need?

669
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: Don't yo?

670
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Okay, you get you one, you get you get you

671
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: a little little bracelet, little master. Did you train right?

672
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: Do you need five cubans? Yeah?

673
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, do you need Do you.

674
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: Need a house in Miami? One in Houston? And BLUs?

675
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: You know you got hey, you know you got to

676
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: have what you know? What you do about it?

677
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: I already know you at I got to know you.

678
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you when

679
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: you right place.

680
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: And they got a g wagon, they got a culling,

681
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: and they is.

682
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: You only drive one? You can only drive one?

683
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, this is this is a good scenario

684
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: and a good case in point. Think about this chat,

685
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: stay with me real quick on this one right here.

686
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 4: Think about everybody from Shannon Sharp's era. Now, think about

687
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: all the players from my era. Show me any of

688
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: the players from my era or Shannon Sharp's era that

689
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 4: are still living the same exact lifestyle as if they're

690
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: playing the game of football.

691
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: Think about it.

692
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, driving all the nice shit, all the bigger It's

693
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 4: impossible to maintain that lifestyle when checks of that magnitude

694
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: stop rolling in.

695
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: There's nothing else in this world where you can.

696
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 4: You can make six hundred and fifty thousand a week, nothing,

697
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: it's impossible. You can make two hundred fifty thousand every Monday,

698
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty thousand every every it's nothing.

699
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: That's very These guys make these guys making these guys

700
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: making three million a game, yep.

701
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: And the funny thing about it is is you make

702
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: it three million a game, and you think, you know what,

703
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: it is always gonna be like this. So you're spinning

704
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 4: unconsciously having fun fashion cars, going here, trips. You know

705
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: you gotta punch, you gotta You got a bunch of chicks,

706
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: so you know you're tricking office.

707
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: You're tricking off as well.

708
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: And you bring your homes with you. You know they

709
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: ain't paying for nothing.

710
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 4: They entourages, the entourages. That's a lot of mouth of feed.

711
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 4: Ain't nobody paying for nothing? Well, when you look up,

712
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: you and your six. When you look up, you're in

713
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: your eight. Oh, god forbid, you have an injury. Oh

714
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: sh or listen, Joe, that should go fast boy.

715
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: Whatever you made, whatever, whatever I made, Yeah, I go

716
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: ahead and take half of it. Oh, put it in

717
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: the bank, Sam, Yeah, I kept I paid my taxes quarterly.

718
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: I got tired of writing three four million dollars checks

719
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the year. So now you take this,

720
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: it's quarterly. It hurt, It would hurt my pride. I

721
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: gotta pay that much. So what I do is that, Hey,

722
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: whatever I made, I got one hundred thousand, I get

723
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand, I get a half a million, two

724
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: fifty gold or one hundred goal or fifty thousand gold.

725
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: I set down aside. Now this is what I got

726
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: towards my expenses. Because Uncle Sam gotta get he got expended.

727
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 2: I gotta pay Uncle Sam. He got a big old house. Yeah,

728
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: he got a big old house in DC, the big one.

729
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: And then he got another building I think they called

730
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: it the Capitol. And then they got the Penagon, and

731
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: we got on them beat of Steph Bombers and you

732
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: know the f sixteen hornets. Yeah, I got to pay

733
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: my party and all that, right, Yeah, understand that. Also, Ojo,

734
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: you got an agent.

735
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: M h he taking it, you're taking it.

736
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: He gonna get two to four percent.

737
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: Yo, yeah, oh yeah, most definitely.

738
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: So you know, it's funny if we had somebody, I think,

739
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 4: the casual fan. You have to be a player to

740
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: understand the casual fancy the numbers at the end of

741
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 4: the day and think, oh my god, he signed for

742
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: two fifty or.

743
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Three or whatever it may be.

744
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: But when you break down the numbers and actually you

745
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: get that chopping half with Uncle Sam take, then you

746
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: factor in your expenses. Yes, then you think about what

747
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 4: goes to your agent. Then you think about what you

748
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 4: got left over. It shrinked significantly the regards of what

749
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: those numbers said. Going across that take on ESPN, it's

750
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: a different ball game.

751
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: It's all smoking mirrors. It's about the real like what

752
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: you can touch.

753
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah she but see, Ojo. The best thing that I

754
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: did I was I switched agents. The agent that I

755
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: have you represented John. I remember asking John to say, John,

756
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: who's your agent? He told me. His name Marvin Demo.

757
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: I said, you think he'd be interested in representing me? Is,

758
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, but here's this number. He gave his number.

759
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: I called him, had a meeting with him. Is I'll

760
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: meet you at the Pro Bowl. Right. He asked me,

761
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: what did I want in my future? I told him,

762
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: I said, I want to live this same lifestyle that

763
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: I have right now. He said, you have any kids?

764
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: I said, I got three. How old? I told them

765
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: how old they were? He said, do you support anybody

766
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: outside of your kid? I was like my mom. I

767
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: helped my mom out. My mom was still working at

768
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: the time, I said, my grandmother and my sister. At

769
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: the time. My brother had just had just retired. I said,

770
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 2: I take all that responsibility. He says, go home, get

771
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: me all your financials of how much you actually have,

772
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: Get me everything that you spend, and then I'll get

773
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 2: back to you in thirty to forty five days. Brought

774
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: him everything I had, right, like, well, I mean, you

775
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: don't blow a lot of your money. I don't see boats.

776
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't see at that time, Oh, Joe, I had,

777
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: you know, had nice cards, but I always I never

778
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: I didn't have a card note so I had to

779
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: pay them off in cash, no trips. He says, this

780
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: is what we're gonna do. He says, we're gonna do this, this, this,

781
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: and this. He says, I want you to is if

782
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: any time you have an appearance, he says, I want

783
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: you to divide it up and put it in an

784
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: account for each kid college. So we're gonna do that

785
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: every time you go do something, no matter how that's

786
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: not yours, that's theirs. Okay, he says, Now your contract

787
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: is gonna come up. You know, Hey, we're gonna talk

788
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: about this. We'll see what the market it is. He said,

789
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do. He said, the first

790
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: you know it's half. Yeah, but I want you to

791
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: take whatever you get, whatever we get. I want you

792
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: to take a third and say I'm not gonna touch

793
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: it for twenty years. Okay, that was three years. We

794
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: go to Baltimore.

795
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all have a free agency.

796
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: You know it's coming. Seven time Pro Bowler, four time

797
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: first team, seven consecutive Pro Bowl. I'm on the market.

798
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever get shennon. He said, I want you to

799
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: take a third and put it away for twenty years.

800
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: You can't touch it. For twenty years. Now, hold on,

801
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: don't you think about it?

802
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Now?

803
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: Twenty years and I'm like, what damn? What if? What

804
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: if something unforeseen? You know brother Mom's sister Sennon, I

805
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: want you to put a third for twenty years? Man,

806
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you know, so I went earlier this year

807
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: and I talked. I was talking to him and he said,

808
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: I need, you know, give me your financials. I brought

809
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: him all the financials.

810
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh Joe.

811
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: You know what they told me. He said, go buy

812
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: yourself something.

813
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: I say, but that twenty years and you ain't touch it.

814
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 4: Ain't touch it, you are. I already know what it's

815
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 4: looking like. You ain't got to tell me, man, he

816
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: ain't got to tell.

817
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: Me, oh joe.

818
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: So that's why. That's why when when uh Fox did

819
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: what they did, oh Shaye was straight.

820
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah now unluss. They had to do the payout, the payout, hey,

821
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: but oh Steveh.

822
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: They came by with his little lightboard, say I heard

823
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: somebody over here need a little sister out of Yeah,

824
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: you know, I had a little you know, little cop

825
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: broke down side the roads.

826
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: And come on old old triple s. Yeah. So now.

827
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: So now I'm thinking, Okay, I've got the kids and

828
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 2: the grand kids. I'm trying to get my grandson kid

829
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: his kid straight. But there wasn't no fancy. It wasn't

830
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: no going on, no this, and no express travagainst stuff

831
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: like that. No, my sister the a sh get me A.

832
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: I don't need no you know you know what I did, oh, Joe,

833
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: I got my sister. I bought her. She told me

834
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: she wanted a limited That's why you know the Southern

835
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: you know, they don't speak correctly. Right right, I heard expedition.

836
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: She said limited edition.

837
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: Right.

838
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: So at that time, the expeditions had just came out.

839
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: I said, So I told her, I said, ny, if

840
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: I got you an expedition. She said, Shannon, what is that?

841
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: I said, I wanted a limited edition. She wanted an Explorer,

842
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: but she wanted a limited an edition. I heard expedition.

843
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: So I done went to the I done went to

844
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: the dealership and got it. Actually, Elway had a car dealership,

845
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 2: and I went to the dealership and.

846
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: Got it the wrong thing.

847
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't got the wrong thing. She's like, Shaddy, I

848
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: don't want that. But just so half of the dealership

849
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: in my hometown, they had won them a.

850
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: Lot right, So you just traded, you traded the back.

851
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: I want it. I want it. I want it. I

852
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: bet you do. I bet you do want it. So

853
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: but but that was the that was the thing. And

854
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: so and oh Joe, see, I'm just watched like I've

855
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: always been a provider. And I understand that I'm the

856
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: baby of the group and I'm just saying on, but

857
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: I'm the I take over. I took over everything because

858
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: once my brother left, now I got all the responsibility.

859
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: So that's my thinking. That's why family. I put family

860
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: above everything. Yes, And I don't play about my family.

861
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: My thing is so when something when something bothered my family,

862
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: it bothers me because I'm I'm close like that. And

863
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: I gave my grandmother on a death bed. I got this.

864
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

865
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: And when I say I got it, you got it. Hey,

866
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: my brother, Hey, go to bed, risks. You ain't never

867
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: got to worry about money. Live me, go to bed,

868
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: sleep easy. You ain't never got to worry about money. Hey, guys,

869
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: I want to say this. My sister had the surgery,

870
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: both of him prepared.

871
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: She's already home, she's walking.

872
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: She competitive she just tried to beat me because I

873
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: was I was walking unassisted the second time in six days.

874
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: We fared him. So she's trying to beat me. She

875
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: done walked up and down the hall, and she all

876
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: a ride and everything. My cousin called me and said, uh,

877
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: I asked her how she do it? She said, what

878
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: I got this morning was already set up. She's already

879
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: given a sep here for She's just trying to beat me.

880
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: Makes me sick. That's good, but that's that's how I am,

881
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: O Joe. So I saved, and people like, well, man,

882
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: you bro to what I make to what I sped,

883
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: the ratio is not even close, not even close.

884
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: You know, man, man worse than yours.

885
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 4: But minus minus always always been like that, you know that.

886
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a discipline that you learned very early. Yeah, early,

887
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: matter of fact, because we heard the stories. Oh Joe,

888
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: we've seen it.

889
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: I've seen guys that I played with man and this

890
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: they they they they down bad man.

891
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: Listen.

892
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: I think it might have been my first year might

893
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: have been my first year, and I went second round

894
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: obviously thirty. I forgot what pick I went, you know,

895
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: And I think my signing botus might have been what

896
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: maybe one five one two something like that.

897
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: Lord, oh listen, and.

898
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: You know when you're young now you in Florida, that

899
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: ain't you know? Yeah, you know you're young. You're young now,

900
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: And so I'm thinking I'm having fun. I'm having a

901
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 4: good old time. I look up off season. Come, boll,

902
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: I done ran through all that.

903
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: Hey, listen to me.

904
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 4: Now, I dodn'et ran through all that because I wasn't

905
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 4: paying attention and I hadn't learned to.

906
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: Say no and chat.

907
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: Listen, family, y'all stayed with me because I can tell

908
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 4: y'all this, And I'm gonna tell you where the discipline

909
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 4: come from.

910
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: For me, because it started early after that first year,

911
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: the off season that came.

912
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: We got into the middle of the season, we got

913
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 4: about we got about to maybe April May. I'll never forget.

914
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 4: I was with Jerome Stanley at the time. But unc

915
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: I had I had ran out. Bro you hear me,

916
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: let me tell, let me take my glass off. But

917
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: you know, I play a lot. I had ran out.

918
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 4: I ain't had nothing left. So I talked to missus Stanley.

919
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 4: I say, Missus Stanley, man out and messed up through

920
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 4: no problem.

921
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: Boom.

922
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 4: Dennis north Cut Cleveland Brown's ride receiver and chat. If

923
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: anybody in the chat no Dennis north Cut, I guarantee

924
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 4: it to tell you, Dennis north Cut had to give

925
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: me one hundred fifty thousand. Might have been year one

926
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 4: maybe maybe, Yeah, it had it had to be year one,

927
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 4: because after that I was on point. Then Dennis north

928
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: Cut had to give me one hundred fifty grand so

929
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 4: I can get through the so I can get through

930
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 4: the season, get through the off season. And when them

931
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 4: check started rolling, I shot Buddy that money back. From

932
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 4: that point on, well we talked about chip. Yeah, man, listen.

933
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 4: I became so financially conscious of everything I did, started

934
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: going to clips.

935
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: I got that smart car probably in two thousand and four.

936
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: I treated myself the things that I got nice. That

937
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: was all.

938
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: If it wasn't the commercial money, it wasn't if it

939
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 4: wasn't TV money. You know, all that stuff I had

940
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 4: going off the field. I ain't touched no more NFL

941
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: checks from that point on, when I couldn't make it

942
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 4: through a goddamn off season.

943
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: Basically, so you think about you got one five, you

944
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: got realized I was making sixty three my rent at

945
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: meal PONK. I was I made sixty three thousand of

946
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: my rookie year mill pond. The rent was five. Hold on,

947
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: first of all, you couldn't do like you know how

948
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: you got to do a rent. You gotta do a

949
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: rent right like a year. Yeah, but I told her

950
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: to see I got I got the apartment because I

951
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: couldn't move in. Boy, And this is this I had.

952
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: God was looking out for me. Yes, sir, my apartment

953
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: wasn't going to be ready. So I made the team

954
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: in August. Our parliament wasn't gonna be ready until the

955
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: first of October. I ain't got no where to state. First,

956
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: I I ain't got O Jo. I ain't got no

957
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: o Joe. I ain't got no place to go, man,

958
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: unless I go to the hotel. Hotel probably about fifty

959
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: bucks a night. Oh to everybody know Melvyn bra you

960
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: may call him fat Cat Hell fat Cat. Say I

961
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: got him too. I got him in the first two weeks.

962
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: Hump you take him the next ten days. Bobby Humphrey,

963
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: Ricky nat you bring it home. So I slept with

964
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: I slept with fat Cat the first two weeks. Then

965
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: I went to Bobby Humphrey. They dropped me off for

966
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: me mail took cause I ain't got that time. I

967
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: ain't have no car just yet. Then I got my

968
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: car in the process. I'm living with b Hump. Then

969
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: Hump asked about No, I ain't got no car because

970
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm driving Ricky the Teals. Ricky the Teal let me

971
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: drive here. He had a four x four h based out.

972
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: He let me drive here. Let me drive his front

973
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: runner for five weeks. I'm living with teammates. Yeah, so

974
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: now October, November, December, January, February, March, I got to

975
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: get six months. I ain't living there, so I'm paying

976
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars for place I ain't even living. I

977
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: got to go back and finish up my degree. I

978
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: stay in this place called Royal Loakes. Hey, and anybody

979
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: in Savannah you know Royal Oakes, Oh, Joe A thousand

980
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: bucks a month, and I got a furnish it and

981
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: I got a place to go back to Savannah State.

982
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: So I paid for my own tuition, Yes, sir.

983
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: Now, had the president had some of these presidents that

984
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: that I've been dealing with, they probably would say, well,

985
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: come on back. But I had to pay. I paid,

986
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: No problem, wasn't no problem. Even though I wasn't making

987
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: money like that, they just oh, tell you no, NFL

988
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: people say, you've been paying professionals, professionals this, you make

989
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: a lot of money. But I wasn't had a cell phone.

990
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: Now.

991
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this on Joe, but people,

992
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: if y'all knowbody, in the nineties, they had a Roman charge.

993
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: So my phone, my phone was based out of Colorado.

994
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: I brought the phone back to Georgia. Anytime I powered up,

995
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm roaming man, free phone dollars a minute. And you

996
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: know your boy big time of Oh Joe, you do,

997
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: I've been mad.

998
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what right right right?

999
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on my way. Hey, bro, hey, man, what's

1000
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: going on? I called my brother, said, bro, what's going on?

1001
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: He like, I said, man, your boy money jump Fuddy

1002
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: said what you mean? I said, boy, you boy money

1003
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: jump from I said, man. You know, I said, man,

1004
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying to go back to school, you know,

1005
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: finish up my degree. Yes, sir, And you know, he said, well,

1006
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: the first thing I want you to do is turn

1007
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: that dawn phone off, all.

1008
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: Right, get that roaming off there?

1009
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, get that rolling up, cause the bill was

1010
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: like the bill was like, oh, tild I got that

1011
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: bill like twelve.

1012
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: Hundred doll got same, yes in the nineties. In the nineties,

1013
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: shit twelve hundred.

1014
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: Now, mind you, I'm still paying five hundred, five ten

1015
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: and five twenty five and mill pond, I'm still paying.

1016
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: I got twelve hundred. I got like, uh a thousand.

1017
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: I think it was like ony twenty nine at Royal

1018
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 2: Loakes and I had to go to rental centem because

1019
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 2: I ain't got no furniture. So I got to rid furniture,

1020
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: furnish the whole apartment like two fifty three hundred dollars

1021
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: a month, right, and I got to pay to go

1022
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: back to school. I ain't got no money coming in

1023
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: on Joe.

1024
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, it's different, listen. I don't I don't think.

1025
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: I don't think people understand, man, I don't think people understand. Obviously,

1026
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 4: the money's a little bit different today. But again, if

1027
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 4: the discipline isn't there, I learned quick.

1028
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: I learned quick. It took me one year, one year,

1029
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: with five I finally made it. I went through it.

1030
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: Holy, I'm back at I'm back at square one. Yeah,

1031
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 4: and somebody else that had that been had been playing.

1032
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 4: Got to send me enough, just survived during the off season.

1033
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh no boo, I.

1034
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: Will never be I will never ever, ever ever be

1035
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 4: in this situation again ever. Tight up real quick, hey, then,

1036
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 4: Dennis north Cot, if you see this, I know you're

1037
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 4: gonna see this. Boy, I appreciate you because it's because

1038
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: of you that got me to get myself together. Boy,

1039
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: So forget it.

1040
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: My going into going into my going into my second year,

1041
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: my second year. Get ready. So now, o Joe, I'm

1042
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: a you know, first two years, I made sixty three thousand,

1043
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: I think I made sixty three, and then seventy three

1044
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: got a ten thousand dollars raised, right, And so by

1045
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: this time I got a I ain't got no contract, right,

1046
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: no contract, oh joke. So but I kept my place

1047
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: year round this time. So I'm playing. I ain't got

1048
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: no hey, I ain't got no money coming in. You know,

1049
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm spending. You know I'm going to Black College. Beat

1050
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: we you know you bought the boy? Do that? Oh?

1051
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: Oh freak you boy?

1052
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1053
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: My brother called me. He said, look here, and this

1054
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 2: is the first this is really the only time in

1055
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: all in all my years, my brother has ever cursed

1056
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: in me.

1057
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: The only time ever he picked up the phone.

1058
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: He called me. He said, what's up?

1059
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, what's up? Bro?

1060
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: Ain't what's up?

1061
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: We're good.

1062
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: I could tell by the tone of his voice. Of

1063
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: his voice, he wasn't in a joking move. Oh yeah,

1064
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: like what's up?

1065
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Man?

1066
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: This is what he said to me, Birdbato, I'm not

1067
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: gonna go broke fucking with you and hung the phone

1068
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: up and hung up. That's the only time my brother

1069
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: has ever uttered a curse word at me.

1070
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: The only time.

1071
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: Say no more, yeah, say no more. He god, oh Joe,

1072
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: because I was I'm thinking, man, this I'm gonna be.

1073
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be Here's like, bro, And you know, later

1074
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: he is facing and say, Bro, you don't understand an

1075
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 2: injury here or something happens there, you not gonna you

1076
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: not gonna play in the NFL. Is if you were

1077
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: a doctor or a lawyer or had a normal occupation,

1078
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: your career is not going to be as long as theirs.

1079
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: And you needed to understand that, right. But he was

1080
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: the only one that my sister would call me. I said,

1081
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 2: get out of my faith. But that was the only time.

1082
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: And from that moment on, well, I don't have no

1083
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: choice because I started having babies then.

1084
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, oh you ain't got no choice. That

1085
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: that that that'll get you. That'll gets you, right, that'll

1086
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: get you.

1087
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you know what the three words I hated

1088
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: m hm three words to this day, and I ain't

1089
00:54:50,360 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: heard him since. I love you, Shannon. I'm praying God, WHOA.

1090
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: Got to be more careful? Yeah?

1091
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, listen, they were they were nothing but blessings

1092
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 4: on the back end.

1093
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: Nothing did because because here's the thing, Oh Joe, Now

1094
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: my homeboy is hearing. My homeboy is Savannah right he

1095
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: hear it? Yeah, he probably ain't gonna make it. You

1096
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: know they he ain't gonna make it. Look at that,

1097
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: he thought he was gonna be a first round pick.

1098
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: He going the seventh round. He ain't gonna even make

1099
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 2: the team. My homeboy, dude, like a kid, he ain't

1100
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: gonna be able to be He ain't gonna be able

1101
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: to take care of them kids. YadA, YadA, YadA. Man,

1102
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, And I remember my grandmother. The only thing

1103
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: she ever said, you make them you take care of him.

1104
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 2: Now that's it. She didn't, she wasn't. I'm disappointed in

1105
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 2: you because I didn't raise you like that. The only

1106
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 2: thing she said, take care of them kids, boy. Because

1107
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: you know old people that don't call you bout your name.

1108
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: My grandma very call me my name. She called me boy,

1109
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: called me son. That's the way they do it inside. Hey,

1110
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 2: hey boy, take care of them kids. Okay, it got

1111
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: oh Jo. It made me focus, but it gave me

1112
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: a desire because my desire to succeed now was far

1113
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: greater than your desire to want me to fail. But see,

1114
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: the one thing that I had in my favorite that

1115
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: you didn't is that I controlled my success. Only thing

1116
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: you could do was wish and hope. Right, I had

1117
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: it in my hands, mad, Oh Joe, bad look here,

1118
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: but those man, that was that was that was That

1119
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: was the time, Oh Joe, that I look back and

1120
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: I think about it, and as we talk about a

1121
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: lot of times financially, we weren't always the most financially

1122
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: responsible people. Now take a time now. Sometimes you don't

1123
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: get an opportunity to recover because if you make too

1124
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: great a mistake at this joke, sho my life. I

1125
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: ain't trying to hit number of singles. I ain't trying

1126
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: to hit nothing out of the park.

1127
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: You can't walk if I need the walk as long

1128
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: as I get on base. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is different. Man.

1129
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 4: Financial literacy is so important for us, not even it's

1130
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: not even about being an athlete, just for everybody in general.

1131
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 4: Understanding the value of a dollar. You know, I had

1132
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: I had to learn. I learned really quick. It just

1133
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 4: took one incident. It took one mistake, and it tightened

1134
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 4: and straightened me up really quick. And it's gotten me

1135
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 4: to the point where I am today. Listen, eleven twelve

1136
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: years move for the game. And obviously I'm very fortunate,

1137
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 4: you know, because some of the people surrounded by me,

1138
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 4: Doug for one, some other people, to where I'm at

1139
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: a point now where I'm making more now and I'm

1140
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 4: not even playing football. I ain't got to take no hits,

1141
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 4: I ain't got to score no touchdowns. I don't making

1142
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: more now, and I ain't caught a damn pass.

1143
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: In ten years, thank you man.

1144
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: Listen.

1145
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: You know.

1146
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 4: But then those those principles and not that that financial

1147
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 4: discipline is still instilled in me.

1148
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: I have a little I have a little fun here

1149
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: and there, you know, for kids, but it's never to

1150
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: the extreme. Would have to maintain and keep up an image.

1151
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 4: No, never, never, I never get to that point because

1152
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 4: I understand, like I don't care what you see going

1153
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 4: across that screen, across that ticker, but that money, that

1154
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: money would jump funny real fast if you if you

1155
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 4: move a wrong. My grandma always said, a fool and

1156
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: his money sells shooing part ways.

1157
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: They will every time.

1158
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: And then at what point time? O jo it like me?

1159
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: For cars?

1160
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I done have had every car Ferraris, don't

1161
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: do it for me. Mercedes. I've had every Rose Rust,

1162
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: I've had them all. So now me just getting the

1163
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: car he ain't ain't no road, that range, that getting

1164
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: the thank service every year it is still drive good.

1165
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: And you get from point A to point B the

1166
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: exact same. Hoo.

1167
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 4: How about my my dumb ass. I think it was

1168
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: twenty two thousand and nine, maybe twenty ten. I leased

1169
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 4: the damn Bugatti for a year and then I get,

1170
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 4: I get fined when year were playing the Philadelphia Eagles

1171
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 4: in the preseason, I get I forgot who was number

1172
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 4: fifty five, Caucasian Caucasian brother, I forgot his name. I

1173
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 4: got hit across the middle to about big hit mane

1174
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 4: is preseason. I'm like, well, god Lee, I think mahommey

1175
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 4: went flying. I went to the sideline and I had

1176
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 4: my phone on the sideline. I tweeted, it's okay, guys,

1177
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: I'm okay. It was a good hit. I tweeted the

1178
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 4: NFL find me twenty five thousand in the preseason. Hunk

1179
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: I tweeted out the following day, I'm chat, y'all can

1180
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: find this tweet too. I tweeted out the following day, Well, man,

1181
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: they done took twenty five thousand. That was one of

1182
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 4: my Bugatti payments.

1183
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: Man. I took that car back by the month later. Man,

1184
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: get this, get this, get this?

1185
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: Why but you already locked into the you might as

1186
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: what just cap it?

1187
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: Manunk I took that car back a a month later.

1188
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 4: By the time we got the God Down November, we

1189
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 4: was in the priasy. By the time we got to November,

1190
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 4: you got baby, you got to go.

1191
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: You got to go.

1192
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: Many I had did that based off I had had

1193
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 4: all type of shows in the off season, so it

1194
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 4: was coming in like crazy, so like you know what,

1195
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna treat myself and get something I've never had

1196
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: before that not very many people had and I did that.

1197
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: You know, I treated myself a little bit, but it

1198
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 4: had nothing. But look what I had coming in on

1199
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 4: the field right, never again, I said, let me lock

1200
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: back in and get back to the discipline that I

1201
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 4: had fucking displayed the past six or seven years.

1202
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: But I know, I know what it's like to drive

1203
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: it now and.

1204
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: Then plus O Joe out here, whatever kind of car

1205
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: you think you can have driving in Beverly Hills, and

1206
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: when you pull up to the light, I guarantee you

1207
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: gonna see another one looked just like it's just like

1208
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: a color. Yeah, unless you got the Space Shuttle and

1209
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: they got those. Yeah, So I don't know who. You

1210
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: try and impress God, drive around here and you're gonna

1211
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: see seventy million, one hundred million, two hundred million dollar mansion.

1212
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: You think you're impressing somebody and they tap a button

1213
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: and the whole wall go down into the floor, the

1214
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: entire wall. To imagine you got whatever size house you got,

1215
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: you press a button and the wall disappears. So you

1216
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: can't impress nobody. So once you realize that you can't

1217
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: impress nobody out here, man, wush I might I'm aa

1218
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: drive mine? Man? What you driver a two thy and

1219
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: twelve rane.

1220
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: Roll a two thousand and five smart car, stick with the.

1221
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: Ribs scuffed up. Man, Wait on't you get the rib painted?

1222
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: Why?

1223
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 2: Why? That didn't really hurting nobody? That's what I'm gonna

1224
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: pull up to the curb again and go scuff them

1225
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: up again. So I'm good man. I mean, once you realize, oh,

1226
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: show that the people that you try and impress, they

1227
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: don't really care how to you? If you think about

1228
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: people don't really care about you.

1229
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: No, it don't, it don't.

1230
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: And I tell people all the time, I tell players,

1231
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 4: even the players plan today. I tell them all the time.

1232
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 4: I say, listen, find a way to make yourself a

1233
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 4: household name. Find yourself a way to make your yourself

1234
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 4: a household name. And you do that by what you

1235
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 4: do on the field. And you get to a point

1236
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 4: in your career where your name is bigger than anything

1237
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 4: you can buy. Your name is bigger than anything you

1238
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 4: can purchase. So it doesn't matter what you're driving, they

1239
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 4: recognizing who the individual is outside that helmet. Yep, When

1240
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 4: your name and your visibility is bigger than anything you

1241
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 4: can purchase to put on and well, there will be

1242
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 4: your value.

1243
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we your value right there.

1244
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 4: You don't need the fancy car. You don't need all

1245
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 4: the motherfucker jewelry because when you out in public, Oh shit, I.

1246
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: Got a I got got me a little nail. Yeah,

1247
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: got that too, raised. But I need to get my

1248
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 2: number back. I got to get my number because know

1249
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 2: when my house got broken into, it took my number

1250
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: and it wasn't yeah man, and my brother gave it

1251
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: to me. Send them seeing the thing else. Like the

1252
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: watches now, even the watches now, O Joe, they don't

1253
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: have the same they don't have the same value to me, because,

1254
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: oh Joe, it was a grind every watch that I got.

1255
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: I saw that watch and I was like, I save

1256
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: up and get it, get it.

1257
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good feeling too, man, Oh that's a

1258
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: good feeling.

1259
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: That's what hurts so bad, O Joe, is that I

1260
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: saved up to get those watches.

1261
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 4: Man.

1262
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean, man, that thing hurt. It wasn't like I said,

1263
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 2: it wasn't the because insurance covering everything. It was that man.

1264
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I remember seeing that watch. I

1265
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna get that Okay, five thousand here say, oh,

1266
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: I got an appearance there, then an autograph signing here

1267
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: something there. End up saving It might take me two years,

1268
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: but I got it. And the feeling that when you

1269
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: save up to get something like me, Oh Joe, that's

1270
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: why I don't. That's why I don't really do a

1271
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: whole lot right, because I got money out to go

1272
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: do it. It ain't like it don't have the same

1273
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: meaning to me.

1274
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: Nah, And you know you know what's good now?

1275
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: You're speaking of saving, right, I myself, we just got

1276
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 4: we just got a new place, obviously, see the back dragon.

1277
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm not at the old place no more.

1278
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: Right.

1279
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: I told Real, I give you a year and a

1280
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: half and I'm up.

1281
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: Out of here.

1282
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what she gonna be. I know

1283
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm leaving, so I got the hold.

1284
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 2: I got my hold up.

1285
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me show you record. Hold on, I

1286
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: ain't I ain't bullshit.

1287
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: Listen, but you see this, you about the building? Know

1288
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: how you about to build a house?

1289
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 4: Boy, I'm un I'm not playing. I'm unkle, I'm not playing.

1290
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: I got I got my float plans right here. I

1291
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 4: got my float plans right here. This is it's called

1292
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 4: O Show's world. I told Real, I say listen, I'm

1293
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 4: gonna give a year and a half. We ain't gonna

1294
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 4: be here no more. I know, we just got I

1295
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 4: think we only be here three weeks. I give you

1296
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 4: a year and a half and were moving. I want,

1297
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 4: I got, I told myself by twenty twenty five, I

1298
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 4: need to be breaking ground in January.

1299
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: Oh my birthday. I need to be breaking ground on January.

1300
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: It's called Ojo's World.

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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 4: Little twelve thousand, little twelve thousand square foot the twelve man, listen, unk,

1302
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 4: I got. I got eleven kids, man, I got eleven kids.

1303
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 4: They might be in college something.

1304
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: You know.

1305
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 4: Everybody damned there, everybody's grown now except for the little three.

1306
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: But I'm finna treat myself for all the hard work

1307
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 4: and all the saving I've done throughout the years, right,

1308
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 4: and then come on the back end and do something

1309
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 4: I want to.

1310
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: Do for the little ones, for the lot one. Just that,

1311
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: just that just has to fun. I will open it up.

1312
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: But it's too big, and Camra that god damn big.

1313
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 4: But man, listen, I'm talking about I've been penny pension

1314
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 4: for a very long time.

1315
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: Just to do something like that that's wrong with them

1316
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: like that, I'm finna get it.

1317
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: You got you gotta reward yourself.

1318
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, and I got it. And the fact

1319
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 4: that me and her beefing. So I want to be

1320
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 4: able to say, you know what, I want to talk

1321
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 4: to you right now. I'm finn I'm finna go on

1322
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 4: the west wing. I'm finna go on the west wing.

1323
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 4: I don't even want to.

1324
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't trying. I want to be able

1325
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: to play hide and seek. And it takes you by

1326
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: the hour to find me.

1327
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: Bad you wild Joe?

1328
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm I'm more not lip my

1329
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: mouth dry right now.

1330
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 4: All this time I've been talking because it ain't no

1331
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 4: water in refrigerator downstairs.

1332
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: But that's what uh, I can't. I can't afford nothing

1333
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: right now. My money. You know, I'm painting, pinching. I'm

1334
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: trying to. I got some I pitied. You know. I

1335
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: got I got some playing. I got a master playing bro.

1336
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: You got you got playing some brewer. I got something

1337
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: brewing on Joe, I got some brewing.

1338
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1339
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 4: I didn't gave you my plan. That's my plan right there.

1340
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm locked in.

1341
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: I ain't ain't. I ain't spending nothing you know.

1342
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 4: Chad, if y'all see me in the same outfit, you know,

1343
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 4: for for two three weeks, a month, two months, now,

1344
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 4: you know why yeah

1345
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Speaker 2: H